Odds are the Mets already gave him an offer and it's Alonso's side holding things up cause he thinks he can get a better deal, but no other teams are calling. He should take whatever the Mets offer because nobody even wants him.
@@boomshakalaka8567you don’t know that no one else wants him. No one else appears to want him at over $200M, but I assure you, other teams would love to have him at the right price.
Jeff McNeil is still a valuable piece in the Mets puzzle. What about moving Nimmo to DH and making McNeil the permanent left-fielder..at least for the time being? Nimmo still has a plantar condition proven by the fact that he hasn't started running yet and McNeil is due for a bounce-back year.
@@Dan-tt8sn I wouldn't bet my life savings on anything. Would you bet your life savings on Soto having a .400 OBP? If so, you have a gambling addiction. If not, should the Mets not have signed him?
@@Dan-tt8sn McNeil showed plenty in the second half last year. There is reason to believe he will do well moving forward. And he is already under contract.
Let’s Go Mets! Already January 1, 2025 and waiting on A Friend that’s getting NO “ Mula “ and Love! 💕 That be the one & only Polar Bear ! 🐻❄️ 🐻❄️ 🐻❄️ Could have his best year ever! The Dominican BOMBER (Juan Soto) could be his protection which Pete has not gotten one ever ! ! FantasticoMets69… Mets Fan for over 5 Decades waiting on the 3rd Championship! Let’s Go Mets Give Pete Alonso the Vote of Confidence & Good Contract ! 🎉🎉🎉
@@eemoreau So the Mets should just outbid themself? No offense, but you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about bc, if they sign Alonso, he is Soto’s protection. Not the other way around. They will most likely have Soto batting 2nd or 3rd and Alonso batting 3rd or 4th.
Unfortunately I agree with Pete. I think if it was completely up to Stearns, Alonso would be gone. Cohen gets what he means to the fan base. I would hate to move Vientos to first
Cohen needs to just push Stearns aside and sign Bregman and Alonso himself. I think he’s about to do that. Stearns won’t sign anybody for longer than two years and none of these free agents that are only 30 years old are going to accept two or three years. He should’ve at least tried for Burnes and offered 3 years to Teo and forced the Dodgers to go to 4 instead of making useless offers that no one is going to accept.
@painless465 Pete won't mean anything to the fanbase when he hits 27 HR with 12 doubles and an OBP around .300, which could well happen as early as 2025.--- Vientos has been a competent 1Bman in his 1/2 year there in pro ball. You pick up close to a win just by moving him to 1B and getting his glove off the hot corner and you add another win just by putting an average defensive 3Bman in Vientos' place there. He!!, you can even put Baty at 3B for the year and support him or platoon him with Mauricio and whomever the Mets sign to be their primary backup IFer, and Baty's fangraphs' projection at 3B for 2025 is for 1.8 fWAR. Baty was worth 0.5 fWAR in 30% of a season in 2024. He doesn't have to be any better than he was in his weak 2024 season to be worth that 1.8 fWAR. Hey, I hate the idea, but it probably works, it leaves the remaining money to build a serious bullpen and for a DH, and it acknowledges you simply cannot sign regulars in FA at every single position. In effect you're getting a competent regular just from the improvement on defense. Anyone who understands you can't sign FA regulars at every position knows that the Mets best shot at getting acceptable production from a position in 2025 internally is at 3B, through some combination of Mauricio / Baty / backup MIer. DH is the other position, where Baty against RHPing and Marte et al against LHPing is a somewhat dicey alternative but with all the other roster holes, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to try. In addition, it's 2/3 into the season, but you can always pick up a bat at the Deadline without paying through the nose. (@WFAN Brian Cashman is a wonderful general manager? Jaysus. As for insulting Sonny Gray and tagging him with the choker label when half of all your FA's will decline after coming to the team, simply at random? And simply at random at least 1/4 of your FA will decline significantly. That's not 'wonderful'----it's disgusting. Kissing arse is a bad look, friend.)
@@Dan-tt8sn I really hope David Stearns was Smart enough to have in His Contract the Ability to Quit and still get Paid if Steve Cohen were to Just Decide take over His Decision Making Authority. You Forget the Misfits of GMs and front office Personnel the METS had prior to Hiring David Stearns.
@@johnstrawb3521 I agree with most of your post. Re-signing Alonso is an awful idea. I challenge anyone on planet earth to explain how the Mets are better with Vientos at third and Alonso at first than with Bregman at third and Vientos at first. Bregman may be the hardest working player in all of MLB. He spends 24/7/365 focusing on being the best player he can be. He is obviously in better shape that Alonso is. His OBP and clutch hitting is miles above Pete's. Defensively, Bregman at third and Vientos at first is vastly better than Vientos/Alonso. Pete is a declining, 30 year old, out of shape, .230 hitting, unclutch player. Giving him the big bucks? Every Met fan would regret it for 90% of that contract.
Stearns is doing his job. Pete isn't worth nearly what he is asking for. If he was, he would have gotten signed at the same time as Walker. Boras is trying to rely on his best stat and ignoring the others. 3 years 90 million is significantly more than Teoscar and Walker. And you cant negotiate against yourself .
Not all of us. Just the dumb ones. But then again there are also dumb ones on the other side that say Pete Alonso sucks. Smart fans fall somewhere in the middle. He’s a great hitter, poor defense, not a future HOFer, not worth $200m. $130m would be reasonable, but ONLY if they have to. Don’t bid up to $130m unless another team comes in at 125 and absolutely forces them to bid higher. 3/$90m was a fair offer considering no one else has bid higher yet. Why throw another $100m at him unless they have no choice? You can’t sign players based purely on emotion.
@@Dan-tt8sn Depends on where the line is for "suck". Calling him a great hitter is a stretch. Ohtani, Judge, and Soto are great hitters. Compared to them, yes, Pete Alonso sucks. I agree with the rest of that. Even 3/$90 would be an overpay considering how much Christian Walker got and I would've rather had him for 3 years than Pete.
@@boomshakalaka8567 Just semantics. I would call Ohtani, Judge and Soto elite. Pete obviously is below them on the scale of greatness. We are just using different words. He obviously doesn’t suck, but he’s not a future HOFer either. I know that’s a broad spectrum, so to narrow it down, he falls above good, which I called great, but let’s just call it “very good”. Lmao. To be more relative, “very good” power hitters like Pete fall along the lines of Olson, Schwarber and Adam Dunn, who are very good power hitters. Jum Thome, Frank Thomas, and Big Papi I’d consider elite power hitters. Any HOF power hitter could probably be called elite. There are different levels of elite though. Lol. Judge busted through elite and is “super elite”. 🤣 Pujols and Manny Ramirez are also super elite. The scale of greatness is so broad that it’s impossible to come up with a word for every level. Anyway, I agree with what you’re saying. He probably is only worth like 3/90, but if it takes like 4/110 to outbid another team and to make Pete happy, then I’d say go for it. I’d say to even go all the way up to 5/125, but only out of desperation if there are no other good options available.
The news regarding Teoscar had me thinking the same thing: The Mets are clearly looking to add two bats, not one. Alonso and Bregman is the dream, but I do think more likely is one of those, plus maybe Santander (although I think another team like Toronto might go crazy since they've missed out on everyone so far) or perhaps a reunion with Winker or someone of that ilk.
Pete has old player skills and you could see him fading this year. I can't imagine Stearns has any interest. Given what Naylor cost (nothing basically) they'll look at the trade market for 1B and 3B, feeling Vientos' bat plays at either spot.
I just wish pete would have signed the extension a year ago. He would have his money and we could move on with the new season. Now it feels like it won't happen
@@Konstant1ne. If Pete Alonso had agreed to the Seven Year Extension for $158M in 2023. Counting the $20.5M that was His Final Arbitration Salary for 2024 season, then METS would basically have had Pete Alonso Under Contract for Six More Seasons for $135.5M. While Years Five and Six of the Remaining Contract could be troublesome the AAV Salary is quite Reasonable at $22.6M.
@@PHN-2024 yes. If he had a good year, I’m sure they’d have no problem offering him 5/135. But he didn’t and has declined for 2 straight years and it hasn’t gone unnoticed by the entire league. He’s still good, but it’s very risky signing him for anything longer than 3 years. Maybe bc he’s a fan favorite and still pretty good, go 4 years. But anything more will destroy the team in a few years when he’s hitting 25 home runs and batting .210 while being paid $30mil.
Y’all are so close to getting the point but y’all won’t admit it that it’s the best move for the Mets as a team. You sign Bregman & Santander & you DH Santander Vientos at 1B & Bregman at 3B & when you want to give Nimmo or Lindor a rest in the field you move Vientos to 3B, Bregman to 2B & Acuna to SS then Santander to 1B Lindor DH & if you want to put Nimmo at DH you move Vientos to 3B, Bregman 2B, Santander 1B Nimmo DH and Taylor/Siri LF or you can do Vientos 1B, Bregman 3B, Acuna 2B, Santander LF & Nimmo DH. Bregman makes this Mets team way more positionally flexible and we have to be honest Alonso can only play 1B that’s it.
Match any 4 year deal for Pete. Not go over 4 years. Hopefully get lucky and get him for 3 years. Great situation for the Mets. I like the idea of Nimmo as DH.
Nimmo at 1B is a much more interesting parlay. He's still quick, he's smart, he's agile, he's very capable of being an above average fielding 1Bman with minimal reps. Vientos is less interesting to move but very productive Evan Roberts is ridiculuous. Alonso is already Dave Kingman, and beginning in 2025 he's probably going to start being Kingman c 1972-1975. Pete's not going to avoid continued decline. ----As for the bleating about Pete playing worse because of the 'pressure' of being in a walk year? So you want to sign a choker to a 30m AAV because of a lucky postseason HR?
@@johnstrawb3521 no one knows what’s going to happen. I love how some people are completely anti Alonso and the rest are Alonso meat riders that think he’s the best player ever. It’s somewhere in the middle. He has extreme value on this team, even in a decline bc he will still be hitting over 30 HRs and 90-100 RBI. The most ideal thing is to grab him for 3-4 years. 4 if that keeps him happy and playing well. But it’s give and take here. You can’t just give him anything he wants bc what he wants is 8 years and $240 mil and that would not end pretty. Probably 4-5 terrible years. I love Pete but they need to stay smart here.
@@Dan-tt8sn yeah, I'm not pro or anti. If mets can get him at a price they like for 4 years or less, seems like a no brainer. He's like dollar store Vlad.
I don’t understand what everyone’s turning their brain into mush about if we got Hernandez he was going to be our DH! We were not gonna have a outfield of Soto, Nimmo and Hernandez
💩💩💩💩Alonso 💩💩💩💩 Enough of garbage Alonso. Do you want to win? Or just cheer for home run records for the franchise. Vlad 1000 times better and there’s a reason why no team wants to sign Alonso. Because he’s not worth it.. The fans are so dumb…. Alonso will block better moves…..
@@MegillsTrashI’ve seen Pete Alonso hit in the post season in the NY market. I have no clue Vlad could. He seems like a me guy, I don’t really like him. Sorry
@ Yeah Alonso had a good week in the playoffs once, that is it after a weak season. Couldn’t deal with the pressure of a contract year or just another sign of his decline. Vlad is 5 years younger and much better hitter. But if you don’t like Vlad thats your decision I can’t force anybody to like someone..
@@MegillsTrashyea, don’t like him. Sorry. I would’ve preferred to sign Christian Walker if couldn’t keep Alonso. Plus, don’t you have to trade for Vlad jr? FWIW, I was a pretty big fan of Vlad’s father.
Once guys like Santander and Bergman get signed, the ball moves further in Alonso’s court because the Mets could be left holding the bag if Alonso signs elsewhere. I would give him 5 years. Jim Thome had the same type and he lasted a while. He really wants to be a Met, make a deal DS!
@@painless465Jim Thome was almost a .300 hitter (.285 through his age 30 season) when he was younger and hit well over .300 a few seasons. He dipped a lot in his 30s, but still had better numbers than Pete at 29 when he was 37. Also, he swears he didn’t, but probably took steroids in his 30s bc they all did in that era. I love Pete, but you can’t compare Thome to Pete. If Pete’s avg dips 40 points like everyone else does in their 30s it will be sub .200.
@@Dan-tt8sn I agree with the first half of that post. But I strongly dislike accusing people of things without strong evidence. I have never heard Thome's name linked to PEDs, ever. I would think that everyone in their life has been falsely accused; it is not fun. Don't to it to others.
Hoffman dude , Pete is a B player, not an A player. He is asking for 170m . If Stearns gives him that, he should be fired on the spot. You do not spend 2 times what a player is worth bc he might break your teams HR record. Who cares? Its about winning the world series. 3 year 90 milliom is 24 million more than Teoocar go and 30 million more thab Walker got. Thats the market! Stearns believes Pete wont who he was in 2019-2022 again . No serious GM is giving Pete what he wants. He will end up on the team or on a desperate non competitor.
Alonzo and McNeil is a problem in that clubhouse they are jealous of the money Lindor is getting paid. What you think how he’s going to feel about Soto. Vladimir will be the Mets first baseman in 2026
The difference between what the Mets offered Soto and what the Yankees offered him was $45M when you include all of the escalators.... That's only about 5% of the contract...one less year is irrelevant. Even if he went to the Yankees, he still would have "gotten paid"... and probably got even more when you think of the endorsements with him wearing the Yankee uniform... This whole thing about the extra money making the difference is such a lazy take.
Bergman retired from baseball 20 years ago. But I would be very happy with Bregman. Re-signing Alonso is an awful idea. I challenge anyone on planet earth to explain how the Mets are better with Vientos at third and Alonso at first than with Bregman at third and Vientos at first. Bregman may be the hardest working player in all of MLB. He spends 24/7/365 focusing on being the best player he can be. He is obviously in better shape that Alonso is. His OBP and clutch hitting is miles above Pete's. Defensively, Bregman at third and Vientos at first is vastly better than Vientos/Alonso. Pete is a declining, 30 year old, out of shape, .230 hitting, unclutch player. Giving him the big bucks? Every Met fan would regret it for 90% of that contract.
@@painless465 1. Vientos couldn't pick a groundball all postseason. Maybe he can play first. He can't play third. 2 . Every Met fan assumes Vientos is a big time slugger, done deal. Based upon _what?_ Rookies who tail off starting in Year Two are a dime a dozen. And during the regular season, Vientos's numbers in clutch spots was unfathomably bad. Met fans are getting way ahead of themselves on Vientos.
@@jimwerther It's weird to me how New Yorkers specifically are obsessed with "home grown". It's a nativism "one of us" attitude that has the same roots as white nationalism.
WFAN would you please stop talking about how they have to add a bat. THEY HAVE NO EFFING PITCHING. A bunch of journeymen and reclamation projects. Just like last year (minis 2 good pitchers). You are not a playoff team without a legitimate ace and a legitimate #2. We could have had a title last year if we had either.
Every Met fan assumes Vientos is a big time slugger, done deal. Based upon _what?_ Rookies who tail off starting in Year Two are a dime a dozen. And during the regular season, Vientos's numbers in clutch spots was unfathomably bad. Met fans are getting way ahead of themselves on Vientos.
@gracecapozucca1158 Glad he did. But over 135 games in the regular season, he didn't. Were you one of the Met fans who complained when this team went long stretches with games when they would leave a dozen guys on base, and go 0-for-10 with RISP? That was #1)Vientos, and #2)Alonso.
@@smashchamp117 In the 2024 regular season....with 2 outs and RISP, he batted .186, with an OBP of .255, and an OPS of .604. And in the same time period, late and close he batted .194, with a .214 OBP and an OPS of .677. Not an anomaly: His career numbers are even worse.
Is Alonzo coming back or not. 2 months to Spring training.
Pitchers and catchers report next month
Odds are the Mets already gave him an offer and it's Alonso's side holding things up cause he thinks he can get a better deal, but no other teams are calling. He should take whatever the Mets offer because nobody even wants him.
“Alonzo Mourning”?
@@boomshakalaka8567you don’t know that no one else wants him. No one else appears to want him at over $200M, but I assure you, other teams would love to have him at the right price.
Would love to hear the broadcast calls for the three 2024 HRs in the response Rico!
Jeff McNeil is still a valuable piece in the Mets puzzle. What about moving Nimmo to DH and making McNeil the permanent left-fielder..at least for the time being? Nimmo still has a plantar condition proven by the fact that he hasn't started running yet and McNeil is due for a bounce-back year.
@@johnstrawb3521
I want McNeil to play, but he is more valuable at 2B than in RF.
Would you bet your life savings on a 33 year old McNeil having a bounce back year?
@@Dan-tt8sn
I wouldn't bet my life savings on anything. Would you bet your life savings on Soto having a .400 OBP? If so, you have a gambling addiction. If not, should the Mets not have signed him?
@@jimwerther I’m just making a point that it’s wishful thinking. This is one time I hope I’m wrong though.
@@Dan-tt8sn
McNeil showed plenty in the second half last year. There is reason to believe he will do well moving forward. And he is already under contract.
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@@eemoreau So the Mets should just outbid themself? No offense, but you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about bc, if they sign Alonso, he is Soto’s protection. Not the other way around. They will most likely have Soto batting 2nd or 3rd and Alonso batting 3rd or 4th.
Unfortunately I agree with Pete. I think if it was completely up to Stearns, Alonso would be gone. Cohen gets what he means to the fan base. I would hate to move Vientos to first
Cohen needs to just push Stearns aside and sign Bregman and Alonso himself. I think he’s about to do that. Stearns won’t sign anybody for longer than two years and none of these free agents that are only 30 years old are going to accept two or three years.
He should’ve at least tried for Burnes and offered 3 years to Teo and forced the Dodgers to go to 4 instead of making useless offers that no one is going to accept.
@painless465 Pete won't mean anything to the fanbase when he hits 27 HR with 12 doubles and an OBP around .300, which could well happen as early as 2025.--- Vientos has been a competent 1Bman in his 1/2 year there in pro ball. You pick up close to a win just by moving him to 1B and getting his glove off the hot corner and you add another win just by putting an average defensive 3Bman in Vientos' place there. He!!, you can even put Baty at 3B for the year and support him or platoon him with Mauricio and whomever the Mets sign to be their primary backup IFer, and Baty's fangraphs' projection at 3B for 2025 is for 1.8 fWAR. Baty was worth 0.5 fWAR in 30% of a season in 2024. He doesn't have to be any better than he was in his weak 2024 season to be worth that 1.8 fWAR.
Hey, I hate the idea, but it probably works, it leaves the remaining money to build a serious bullpen and for a DH, and it acknowledges you simply cannot sign regulars in FA at every single position.
In effect you're getting a competent regular just from the improvement on defense. Anyone who understands you can't sign FA regulars at every position knows that the Mets best shot at getting acceptable production from a position in 2025 internally is at 3B, through some combination of Mauricio / Baty / backup MIer. DH is the other position, where Baty against RHPing and Marte et al against LHPing is a somewhat dicey alternative but with all the other roster holes, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to try. In addition, it's 2/3 into the season, but you can always pick up a bat at the Deadline without paying through the nose.
(@WFAN Brian Cashman is a wonderful general manager? Jaysus. As for insulting Sonny Gray and tagging him with the choker label when half of all your FA's will decline after coming to the team, simply at random? And simply at random at least 1/4 of your FA will decline significantly. That's not 'wonderful'----it's disgusting. Kissing arse is a bad look, friend.)
@@Dan-tt8sn I really hope David Stearns was Smart enough to have in His Contract the Ability to Quit and still get Paid if Steve Cohen were to Just Decide take over His Decision Making Authority. You Forget the Misfits of GMs and front office Personnel the METS had prior to Hiring David Stearns.
@@johnstrawb3521
I agree with most of your post. Re-signing Alonso is an awful idea. I challenge anyone on planet earth to explain how the Mets are better with Vientos at third and Alonso at first than with Bregman at third and Vientos at first. Bregman may be the hardest working player in all of MLB. He spends 24/7/365 focusing on being the best player he can be. He is obviously in better shape that Alonso is. His OBP and clutch hitting is miles above Pete's. Defensively, Bregman at third and Vientos at first is vastly better than Vientos/Alonso. Pete is a declining, 30 year old, out of shape, .230 hitting, unclutch player. Giving him the big bucks? Every Met fan would regret it for 90% of that contract.
Stearns is doing his job. Pete isn't worth nearly what he is asking for. If he was, he would have gotten signed at the same time as Walker. Boras is trying to rely on his best stat and ignoring the others. 3 years 90 million is significantly more than Teoscar and Walker.
And you cant negotiate against yourself .
Mets fans are insane. You have to be the only fanbase that wants your team to bid against THEMSELVES.
Not all of us. Just the dumb ones. But then again there are also dumb ones on the other side that say Pete Alonso sucks. Smart fans fall somewhere in the middle. He’s a great hitter, poor defense, not a future HOFer, not worth $200m. $130m would be reasonable, but ONLY if they have to. Don’t bid up to $130m unless another team comes in at 125 and absolutely forces them to bid higher. 3/$90m was a fair offer considering no one else has bid higher yet. Why throw another $100m at him unless they have no choice? You can’t sign players based purely on emotion.
@@Dan-tt8sn Depends on where the line is for "suck". Calling him a great hitter is a stretch. Ohtani, Judge, and Soto are great hitters. Compared to them, yes, Pete Alonso sucks. I agree with the rest of that. Even 3/$90 would be an overpay considering how much Christian Walker got and I would've rather had him for 3 years than Pete.
@@boomshakalaka8567 Just semantics. I would call Ohtani, Judge and Soto elite. Pete obviously is below them on the scale of greatness. We are just using different words. He obviously doesn’t suck, but he’s not a future HOFer either. I know that’s a broad spectrum, so to narrow it down, he falls above good, which I called great, but let’s just call it “very good”. Lmao.
To be more relative, “very good” power hitters like Pete fall along the lines of Olson, Schwarber and Adam Dunn, who are very good power hitters. Jum Thome, Frank Thomas, and Big Papi I’d consider elite power hitters. Any HOF power hitter could probably be called elite. There are different levels of elite though. Lol. Judge busted through elite and is “super elite”. 🤣 Pujols and Manny Ramirez are also super elite. The scale of greatness is so broad that it’s impossible to come up with a word for every level.
Anyway, I agree with what you’re saying. He probably is only worth like 3/90, but if it takes like 4/110 to outbid another team and to make Pete happy, then I’d say go for it. I’d say to even go all the way up to 5/125, but only out of desperation if there are no other good options available.
The news regarding Teoscar had me thinking the same thing: The Mets are clearly looking to add two bats, not one. Alonso and Bregman is the dream, but I do think more likely is one of those, plus maybe Santander (although I think another team like Toronto might go crazy since they've missed out on everyone so far) or perhaps a reunion with Winker or someone of that ilk.
Day 20 of asking for a Shea Station Rico off-season crossover combined pod. 2 best Mets pods in the game.
Pete has old player skills and you could see him fading this year. I can't imagine Stearns has any interest. Given what Naylor cost (nothing basically) they'll look at the trade market for 1B and 3B, feeling Vientos' bat plays at either spot.
Rico if Mets get Montgomery I would think the pitching lab can improve him no !
I just wish pete would have signed the extension a year ago. He would have his money and we could move on with the new season. Now it feels like it won't happen
I’m thankful he didn’t. We’d have a terrible contract on our hands. Think with the mind not the heart
@@Konstant1ne. If Pete Alonso had agreed to the Seven Year Extension for $158M in 2023. Counting the $20.5M that was His Final Arbitration Salary for 2024 season, then METS would basically have had Pete Alonso Under Contract for Six More Seasons for $135.5M. While Years Five and Six of the Remaining Contract could be troublesome the AAV Salary is quite Reasonable at $22.6M.
@@PHN-2024
He is already on the decline. I wouldn't sign him under condition, even for one year.
@@PHN-2024 yes. If he had a good year, I’m sure they’d have no problem offering him 5/135. But he didn’t and has declined for 2 straight years and it hasn’t gone unnoticed by the entire league. He’s still good, but it’s very risky signing him for anything longer than 3 years. Maybe bc he’s a fan favorite and still pretty good, go 4 years. But anything more will destroy the team in a few years when he’s hitting 25 home runs and batting .210 while being paid $30mil.
Santander,Yandy Diaz,and Tanner Scott
Y’all are so close to getting the point but y’all won’t admit it that it’s the best move for the Mets as a team. You sign Bregman & Santander & you DH Santander Vientos at 1B & Bregman at 3B & when you want to give Nimmo or Lindor a rest in the field you move Vientos to 3B, Bregman to 2B & Acuna to SS then Santander to 1B Lindor DH & if you want to put Nimmo at DH you move Vientos to 3B, Bregman 2B, Santander 1B Nimmo DH and Taylor/Siri LF or you can do Vientos 1B, Bregman 3B, Acuna 2B, Santander LF & Nimmo DH. Bregman makes this Mets team way more positionally flexible and we have to be honest Alonso can only play 1B that’s it.
God we need a good trade if we are done spending
Stearns is too busy bargain shopping
Match any 4 year deal for Pete. Not go over 4 years. Hopefully get lucky and get him for 3 years. Great situation for the Mets. I like the idea of Nimmo as DH.
Nimmo at 1B is a much more interesting parlay. He's still quick, he's smart, he's agile, he's very capable of being an above average fielding 1Bman with minimal reps. Vientos is less interesting to move but very productive
Evan Roberts is ridiculuous. Alonso is already Dave Kingman, and beginning in 2025 he's probably going to start being Kingman c 1972-1975. Pete's not going to avoid continued decline. ----As for the bleating about Pete playing worse because of the 'pressure' of being in a walk year? So you want to sign a choker to a 30m AAV because of a lucky postseason HR?
@@johnstrawb3521 no one knows what’s going to happen. I love how some people are completely anti Alonso and the rest are Alonso meat riders that think he’s the best player ever. It’s somewhere in the middle. He has extreme value on this team, even in a decline bc he will still be hitting over 30 HRs and 90-100 RBI. The most ideal thing is to grab him for 3-4 years. 4 if that keeps him happy and playing well. But it’s give and take here. You can’t just give him anything he wants bc what he wants is 8 years and $240 mil and that would not end pretty. Probably 4-5 terrible years. I love Pete but they need to stay smart here.
@@johnstrawb3521
Thank you. Pete sucks.
@@Dan-tt8sn yeah, I'm not pro or anti. If mets can get him at a price they like for 4 years or less, seems like a no brainer. He's like dollar store Vlad.
The first person that came to mind when thinking about who your wife would want to sleep with was Ben stiller and Jerry Seinfeld? wtf?
I don’t understand what everyone’s turning their brain into mush about if we got Hernandez he was going to be our DH! We were not gonna have a outfield of Soto, Nimmo and Hernandez
We already have a third baseman
...who can't play third base. Move him to first.
@@jimwertherHe was fine there. He has earned the right to stay at third.
@@MichaelAngelo-l5s
Did you watch the playoffs?
@@jimwerther yes, and I still stand by what I said.
@@MichaelAngelo-l5s
He was terrible defensively in the playoffs.
I am good w Acuna getting a crack at CF, or any other young option. Keep the roster infused with high upside youngsters! LFGM!
I want him in the infield
💩💩💩💩Alonso 💩💩💩💩 Enough of garbage Alonso. Do you want to win? Or just cheer for home run records for the franchise. Vlad 1000 times better and there’s a reason why no team wants to sign Alonso. Because he’s not worth it.. The fans are so dumb…. Alonso will block better moves…..
I don’t want Vlad jr anywhere near the Mets. Sorry, rather have Pete.
@ lmao. Another clueless fan hilarious
@@MegillsTrashI’ve seen Pete Alonso hit in the post season in the NY market. I have no clue Vlad could. He seems like a me guy, I don’t really like him. Sorry
@ Yeah Alonso had a good week in the playoffs once, that is it after a weak season. Couldn’t deal with the pressure of a contract year or just another sign of his decline. Vlad is 5 years younger and much better hitter. But if you don’t like Vlad thats your decision I can’t force anybody to like someone..
@@MegillsTrashyea, don’t like him. Sorry. I would’ve preferred to sign Christian Walker if couldn’t keep Alonso. Plus, don’t you have to trade for Vlad jr? FWIW, I was a pretty big fan of Vlad’s father.
Once guys like Santander and Bergman get signed, the ball moves further in Alonso’s court because the Mets could be left holding the bag if Alonso signs elsewhere. I would give him 5 years. Jim Thome had the same type and he lasted a while. He really wants to be a Met, make a deal DS!
Thome had same body type as Alonso and played well a while
@@painless465Jim Thome was almost a .300 hitter (.285 through his age 30 season) when he was younger and hit well over .300 a few seasons. He dipped a lot in his 30s, but still had better numbers than Pete at 29 when he was 37. Also, he swears he didn’t, but probably took steroids in his 30s bc they all did in that era. I love Pete, but you can’t compare Thome to Pete. If Pete’s avg dips 40 points like everyone else does in their 30s it will be sub .200.
That's obviously absurd. Thome's AVERAGE OPS+ for his age 24-29 seasons was better than even Pete's juiced ball 2019 OPS+
@@johnstrawb3521 exactly. I love Pete, but I understand the hesitancy in signing him for 7-8 years.
@@Dan-tt8sn
I agree with the first half of that post. But I strongly dislike accusing people of things without strong evidence. I have never heard Thome's name linked to PEDs, ever. I would think that everyone in their life has been falsely accused; it is not fun. Don't to it to others.
Hoffman dude , Pete is a B player, not an A player. He is asking for 170m . If Stearns gives him that, he should be fired on the spot. You do not spend 2 times what a player is worth bc he might break your teams HR record. Who cares? Its about winning the world series.
3 year 90 milliom is 24 million more than Teoocar go and 30 million more thab Walker got. Thats the market! Stearns believes Pete wont who he was in 2019-2022 again . No serious GM is giving Pete what he wants. He will end up on the team or on a desperate non competitor.
Alonzo and McNeil is a problem in that clubhouse they are jealous of the money Lindor is getting paid. What you think how he’s going to feel about Soto. Vladimir will be the Mets first baseman in 2026
I don’t know why McNeil hadn’t been moved. He’s not a fit here anymore
@@painless465
Why? They won with him in 2024. He gets on base, and fields his position. I'd be happy with him at second base.
The difference between what the Mets offered Soto and what the Yankees offered him was $45M when you include all of the escalators....
That's only about 5% of the contract...one less year is irrelevant. Even if he went to the Yankees, he still would have "gotten paid"... and probably got even more when you think of the endorsements with him wearing the Yankee uniform... This whole thing about the extra money making the difference is such a lazy take.
Sign Bergman and move on! Tell Pete and Boras to take a hike!
I’d rather have Bergman at 3rd and Vientos at 1st anyway.
I don’t want Vientos learning a new position. Let him stay at 3rd and rake!
@ Bregman is a gold glove 3rd baseman. Vientos can easily pick up 1st base and he’ll still rake!
@@Bklynblaze1 I still want Pete back, but I guess that’s a good plan if Alonso leaves
Bergman retired from baseball 20 years ago. But I would be very happy with Bregman.
Re-signing Alonso is an awful idea. I challenge anyone on planet earth to explain how the Mets are better with Vientos at third and Alonso at first than with Bregman at third and Vientos at first. Bregman may be the hardest working player in all of MLB. He spends 24/7/365 focusing on being the best player he can be. He is obviously in better shape that Alonso is. His OBP and clutch hitting is miles above Pete's. Defensively, Bregman at third and Vientos at first is vastly better than Vientos/Alonso. Pete is a declining, 30 year old, out of shape, .230 hitting, unclutch player. Giving him the big bucks? Every Met fan would regret it for 90% of that contract.
@@painless465
1. Vientos couldn't pick a groundball all postseason. Maybe he can play first. He can't play third.
2 . Every Met fan assumes Vientos is a big time slugger, done deal. Based upon _what?_ Rookies who tail off starting in Year Two are a dime a dozen. And during the regular season, Vientos's numbers in clutch spots was unfathomably bad. Met fans are getting way ahead of themselves on Vientos.
The Wilpons created Stearns in
a lab.
A Jewish Kosher Lab?
Stearns is the smartest PBO in baseball. Anyone opposed to him has no business rooting for this team, and apparently missed the run of 2024.
@@jimwerther It's weird to me how New Yorkers specifically are obsessed with "home grown". It's a nativism "one of us" attitude that has the same roots as white nationalism.
@@boomshakalaka8567
I don't know that it's a New York thing, or that it has anything whatsoever to do with racial identity. I think it's just dumb.
Alonso Family .. bring him home
WFAN would you please stop talking about how they have to add a bat. THEY HAVE NO EFFING PITCHING. A bunch of journeymen and reclamation projects. Just like last year (minis 2 good pitchers). You are not a playoff team without a legitimate ace and a legitimate #2. We could have had a title last year if we had either.
Every Met fan assumes Vientos is a big time slugger, done deal. Based upon _what?_ Rookies who tail off starting in Year Two are a dime a dozen. And during the regular season, Vientos's numbers in clutch spots was unfathomably bad. Met fans are getting way ahead of themselves on Vientos.
So hitting in playoffs isnt clutch enough for u?
@gracecapozucca1158
Glad he did. But over 135 games in the regular season, he didn't. Were you one of the Met fans who complained when this team went long stretches with games when they would leave a dozen guys on base, and go 0-for-10 with RISP? That was #1)Vientos, and #2)Alonso.
Do you have stats to back that up because I mostly seen him do pretty well he had a walk off home or early in the year
@@smashchamp117
In the 2024 regular season....with 2 outs and RISP, he batted .186, with an OBP of .255, and an OPS of .604. And in the same time period, late and close he batted .194, with a .214 OBP and an OPS of .677. Not an anomaly: His career numbers are even worse.