I owned a 1967 Alfa Giulia Super for 21 years - rebuilt it twice. It was a 'driver' - used near every day. Oh! - the lengths we go keep our antiques on the road. I bought the car for $450 and sold it, when I felt it needed new blood, for $10k. All in all, my Alfa experience was like that of having a great and memorable dog.
all the Alfa's of the day were different and most were great shapes with engines which could rev nicely...alfosud was also a different car. pity they were not galvanized in the day.
My family had a millwork shop for 25 years in Washington state. We took a job rebuilding the wooden frame on the rear end of a Porsche. I never knew they had wooden frames. Very cool stuff.
Surely the Porsche, nor this Alfa Romeo does not have a wooden frame. These are just wooden bucks, for the master craftsman to shape and fit the body panel upon.
thanks for uploading the video. i hope you continue to post more videos on making the remainder of the Alfa front. you do wonderful work. these videos are very helpful to a beginner such as myself. thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Beautiful cars used to be made by hand , would last a long time and end up as collector items . Now they design them using computers , make them by robots and they become junk that nobody wants before recovering their cost . Yet they call it progress . Salute young skilled craftsman , you are no less than a soloist in a symphony orchestra 👍
I love hand crafted things, but robots and computers have also made cars a lot better and reliable. I used to have an early Porsche and you couldn't, say, get a door off a junked car and fit it on yours. Getting it to git right would take a skilled craftsperson a long time. Now you can take a door from a salvage car and put it on a car and you don't even have to adjust a hinge or a latch. I've done it several times. Cars are a lot more reliable now as well.
congratulations, a profession that has now disappeared, done by very few people, very hard work, I imagine those who at the time had to make hundreds if not thousands of cars built in this way.
Paciencia, experiencia y amar tu trabajo para llegar realizar puro arte en "chapisteria" de automoción. Recuerdo en mis principios de aprendiz, cómo los mayores trabajaban la chapa de los coches en caliente y frio. Me fascinaba. Que tu trabajo te dé muchas satisfaciones durante muchos años..!!
smart guy and great to see him using ear mufs when banging metal...a lot of people are unaware they are damaging their ears at this point. This now goes past metal work to an art form...
Il faut au moins dix ans de métier pour commencer à être capable de former correctement de la tôle comme ce que vous voyez sur cette vidéo. On n'apprend pas un métier manuel en quelques heures. Salutations sincères
Wow, absloutely beautiful work, and SO labour-intensive. I'd love to know how long it takes to fashion and assemble the whole jigsaw. No doubt someone will be paying a hell of a lot of money for it, and rightly so!
Hélas,aujourd'hui on fabrique à la chaîne des SUV"Alfa Romeo" Milano en Pologne,avec des 3 cylindres Stellantis fragiles comme du verre.Ou est l'Italie d'antan?Le monde automobile a basculé à tout jamais.Bravo à ces métiers oubliés,travail magnifique qui incite au respect.
@@slgclassiccars4098 hi, great job, i mean the other fellow user above dom, complains about generic industrial products and specifically alfa s or alfa badged cars coming from eastern europe, correctly appraising artisan work especially from traditional places... ...but, at the end of the story, exactly those that complain, when they ll buy a new car, they would not go for the more expensive alternative, ...in other words they would not buy a car done from scratch by you or an artisan or a small manufacturer, because it is too expensive... ie they will always complain, ... probably
I´m more than surprised it was so easy and took less than 10 minutes to create such a complex geometry. In other words: More than impressed by your skills!
You are doing simply excellent work! In as many videos as I have seen, not a single master has mentioned what metal he uses to make body panels. Could you please tell me what grades of steel can be used for the manufacture of body panels? if we are talking about steel body panels, of course.
You are doing a great job! Could you please tell me what grade of steel and thickness of metal you use to make body panels? None of those people posting videos about making body panels ever say what metal they use, it would be very helpful to get advice from a professional.
@@slgclassiccars4098 Thank you for your reply! So far I have found sheets of this steel on sale and it is indicated there that it is electro galvanized. Do you know what this means? Does this mean that it has some kind of coating like zinc or something else? As far as I understand, sheets of metal for the manufacture of body panels should not be coated with anything, otherwise welding problems may arise. Is it so?
These days not many people could tell you what an English wheel even was......much less what it did and how you would use one. THIS my friends is what panel beater craftsmen used back in the day's before mass production of two hundred ton steel stamping presses became the norm in mass production. before this every panel on every car ever made was done this way by skilled craftsmen with decades of experience behind them, sadly a dying art in an age where even "NOW" is not quick enough in a throw away society.
130$/hr is totally crazy. We charge 70€/h, that's fair. I dont want to be rich, I dont like expensive things and useless shiny things, I just want to create beautiful things, and make my client's dream come true, and be an example for my children
This feels like watching a man in the stone age fashion a flint tip for an arrow. Yes, good craftsmanship and all that... but just picture in your head the what an astronomical difference in productivity there is between this and mass production. This is exactly why anyone watching this can afford the device it's being watched on: a quantum leap in productivity and a nose-dive of unit cost. That people today can afford good things is exactly and specifically because of that: not wasting time on miniscule productivity.
Man, it's obvious that you don't understand anything about what you see. This part does not exist. Do you understand what it means? We have to shape it by the unit. This car has been build in a very few quantity; do you think anyone is going to spend money to build a press to make a few parts?
@@slgclassiccars4098 because it literally is: a grown man, making a "toy" for a 50+ year old man, that's not practical and "fun" in a very subjective way. Meanwhile some factory worker that services 50 different presses part of an assembly line contributed to making maybe 500 cars with actual tolerances that are 100x better. The point is moot. I see this ad stupid as an old beerbelly f××× spending time and money on building a scale city section with a model railroad. Yes, "master craftsman", "incredible work" all of that. At the end of the day it's still a stupid waste of time. Like painting a modern piece of art. It's so insignificant that unless someone APPRECIATES someone doing it manually it will just blend in and be "meh, some old car".
@@LegateMalpais This is almost the most stupid thing I ever read. So you're one of those people who think that craftsmanship is pointless because there are factories, one of those people who think that a painting by a master is absurd because there are printers. You're one of those who think that poetry has been totally useless since chatgpt came into being, and that sculture hasn't deserved to exist since the 3d printer came into being. Your words are what I fight against, and what amazes my customers. I'm not disappointed not to count you among my customers.
Thank you for giving us a glimpse of the past and the craftsmanship that was required to bring a designers dream to life!
Real talent, real skill, a true craftsman who loves his work.
true but not realistic anymore
I owned a 1967 Alfa Giulia Super for 21 years - rebuilt it twice. It was a 'driver' - used near every day.
Oh! - the lengths we go keep our antiques on the road.
I bought the car for $450 and sold it, when I felt it needed new blood, for $10k.
All in all, my Alfa experience was like that of having a great and memorable dog.
all the Alfa's of the day were different and most were great shapes with engines which could rev nicely...alfosud was also a different car. pity they were not galvanized in the day.
@@wcswoodPathetic? Really? He liked the car, so what?
Magnifique vidéo d'un artisan voir un artiste une magnifique réalisation
One of the most interesting and impressive videos I've ever seen on UA-cam.
That's really kind of yoi, thanks for watching😉
My family had a millwork shop for 25 years in Washington state. We took a job rebuilding the wooden frame on the rear end of a Porsche. I never knew they had wooden frames. Very cool stuff.
Surely the Porsche, nor this Alfa Romeo does not have a wooden frame. These are just wooden bucks, for the master craftsman to shape and fit the body panel upon.
thanks for uploading the video. i hope you continue to post more videos on making the remainder of the Alfa front. you do wonderful work. these videos are very helpful to a beginner such as myself. thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Yes I'll do that for sure. 😉
Absolutely astounding. Great work!
thanks a lot!
This is a real work of art
Un artiste
This is why custom made stuff has a price on them. Well done Sir.
quel beau travail , magnifique !!!👍
Beautiful workmanship 😊
Beautiful cars used to be made by hand , would last a long time and end up as collector items . Now they design them using computers , make them by robots and they become junk that nobody wants before recovering their cost . Yet they call it progress .
Salute young skilled craftsman , you are no less than a soloist in a symphony orchestra 👍
you are true, thank you very much for your comment
I love hand crafted things, but robots and computers have also made cars a lot better and reliable. I used to have an early Porsche and you couldn't, say, get a door off a junked car and fit it on yours. Getting it to git right would take a skilled craftsperson a long time. Now you can take a door from a salvage car and put it on a car and you don't even have to adjust a hinge or a latch. I've done it several times. Cars are a lot more reliable now as well.
What’s the labour cost for that panel?
@@freddymax5256 I'm charging 70€/h
pieces of art formed into a car that appreciates in value through time...
Even just the wooden buck was impressive
Magnifique vidéo d'une magnifique réalisation...
Merci.
merci merci🙏🙏
Das ist Handwerk! ! Bravo 👍 👍 👍 👏
Some amazing skill and knowledge in this workshop
Thanks a lot
Beautiful work. Thanks for showing how it is done!
thanks for watching
congratulations, a profession that has now disappeared, done by very few people, very hard work, I imagine those who at the time had to make hundreds if not thousands of cars built in this way.
Paciencia, experiencia y amar tu trabajo para llegar realizar puro arte en "chapisteria" de automoción. Recuerdo en mis principios de aprendiz, cómo los mayores trabajaban la chapa de los coches en caliente y frio. Me fascinaba. Que tu trabajo te dé muchas satisfaciones durante muchos años..!!
that's so great to read ;-)
This is what you call Craftsmanship at its best.
Blessed hands.
Thanks a lot😉
What a fast worker. I’ve never seen anything like this before. 😂. Great workmanship. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👌👌👌
😆
smart guy and great to see him using ear mufs when banging metal...a lot of people are unaware they are damaging their ears at this point. This now goes past metal work to an art form...
Gteat work. Love the craftsmanship.
If it were easy? Everyone would do it. Great work.
Panie Tomku! Doskonała robota. Podziwiam dbałość o szczegóły. Wspaniały Polonez.
That is art in it's basic form.
Didn't realize it took this much work!
Almost 3h...
Magnifique ! 👏👏
Cute French guy with the wild hair is a metal shaping MASTER
creep
😄 thank you very much indeed
Thank you for sharing
Wow, the talent, patience, and effort that goes into that is so very impressive. I admire people with such talent.
Thank you very much
Nice.
....I'll pop back in 2034 to see how its progressing 👍
The car is complete now
Sheet metal in the hands of a master
c'est absolument hypnotisant. si vous faites des formations, via le CPF ou non, n'hesitez pas a le dire
merci beaucoup 🤩
Il faut au moins dix ans de métier pour commencer à être capable de former correctement de la tôle comme ce que vous voyez sur cette vidéo.
On n'apprend pas un métier manuel en quelques heures.
Salutations sincères
that was really awesome to watch
that's great to read thank you
Impossible incredible work. Like a pron😅
Admirable talent! ...But, isn't it like forging nails one by one by hand? What about all the latest 3D printing and prototyping technology?
This part took me 2,5h (180€+ tax). Try to find cheaper anywhere in the world. Last technology is not always the best.
Parabéns um bom trabalho 👍.Esta também é a minha profissão a 43-anos.
Un gros niveau et un très beau travail
Wow, absloutely beautiful work, and SO labour-intensive. I'd love to know how long it takes to fashion and assemble the whole jigsaw. No doubt someone will be paying a hell of a lot of money for it, and rightly so!
I designed the jigsaw my self, from a 3d scan I've made of the car. Wood is cnc cut and grey parts are 3d print. Not so expensive.
Ну... с днём жестянщика !🍸🍸🍸
How about the chunk of railroad track rail on the stump. Perfection
Hélas,aujourd'hui on fabrique à la chaîne des SUV"Alfa Romeo" Milano en Pologne,avec des 3 cylindres Stellantis fragiles comme du verre.Ou est l'Italie d'antan?Le monde automobile a basculé à tout jamais.Bravo à ces métiers oubliés,travail magnifique qui incite au respect.
Merci
yes, but you d probably never buy it
@@user-nj1ob8ht3p what do you mean?
@@slgclassiccars4098 hi, great job, i mean the other fellow user above dom, complains about generic industrial products and specifically alfa s or alfa badged cars coming from eastern europe, correctly appraising artisan work especially from traditional places...
...but, at the end of the story, exactly those that complain, when they ll buy a new car, they would not go for the more expensive alternative, ...in other words they would not buy a car done from scratch by you or an artisan or a small manufacturer, because it is too expensive...
ie they will always complain,
...
probably
I´m more than surprised it was so easy and took less than 10 minutes to create such a complex geometry.
In other words: More than impressed by your skills!
accelerated video and spot steps
Nice work
Super!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
At this rate he should have a completed car body by July of 2025.
Great work you beautiful artisan 👌
Incredible 👏
Outstanding craftsmanship take a bow
🥲 thank you very much
Handwerks-Kunst 👍
Супер !
thanks a lot for watching me from so far! Cheers from Belgium
ياخي كم اعشق عملك 💪
You are doing simply excellent work! In as many videos as I have seen, not a single master has mentioned what metal he uses to make body panels. Could you please tell me what grades of steel can be used for the manufacture of body panels? if we are talking about steel body panels, of course.
Hello. Here I'm using standard steel (dc01) 1mm thick. 😉
👍
You are doing a great job! Could you please tell me what grade of steel and thickness of metal you use to make body panels? None of those people posting videos about making body panels ever say what metal they use, it would be very helpful to get advice from a professional.
Steel DC01, 1mm thick
@@slgclassiccars4098
Thank you for your reply!
So far I have found sheets of this steel on sale and it is indicated there that it is electro galvanized. Do you know what this means? Does this mean that it has some kind of coating like zinc or something else? As far as I understand, sheets of metal for the manufacture of body panels should not be coated with anything, otherwise welding problems may arise. Is it so?
Bravo!!!
Bravo !
10out of 10 tradesmen
すげえ！初期の117クーペとか初代シルビアもこういう作り方だったらしいね
Awesome 😍😍😍😍
thanks
дело мастера боится!!!
Paha biçilemez 👌 (from Türkiye)
Do you heat the metal first prior to working it?
nope, only cold shaping
Coparts probably didn’t have the part
indeed
What is that pillow made of?
leather sand bag
Young's Modulus of Elasticity.
Interesting. I am not familiar with the pillow technique...
Tres bien.😊
What would this cost
2.5h of labour
Love it !!!,🔴🫢🤫
Wrong focus on railway sleepers, where do you get them? 😅
Indeed, sorry.
I ve found it somewhere lost in the back yard I cant remember.
that's more than a lifetime tool
You know they say that to a Hammer, everything's a nail...
уходящие технологии.
красиво, но грустно.
Itzhak Perlman of metal.
THAT's a compliment, thank you 😉
These days not many people could tell you what an English wheel even was......much less what it did and how you would use one. THIS my friends is what panel beater craftsmen used back in the day's before mass production of two hundred ton steel stamping presses became the norm in mass production. before this every panel on every car ever made was done this way by skilled craftsmen with decades of experience behind them, sadly a dying art in an age where even "NOW" is not quick enough in a throw away society.
Wow!
This is just awesome. Thank you for the great content.
Thanks for watching my content 😉
Je suis un bon chaudronnier. Mais la carrosserie bravo.
☺️ merci beaucouo
Fantastic workmanship, thanks for sharing how many hours would you reckon you spent on that single piece?
This part is about 2h of work. Thanks for warching.
That’s an insanely complex part
How to make such a model (frame) of a car? This is a parametric model, if not, what is it called?
Originally, the contiurs were taken in patterns directly from the designer's full-size drawn views, or off the wood and modelling clay master model.
Jeez...I got tired just watching this. The amount of labor involved.
?how much time do you think?
If you can clickbuy it, tell me where.
If it was a Mercedes I’d say “hammer time”!
👌👌 fab
How many hours?
I don't remember, but If I have to make another one I would take me 2.5h
Жесть
Гарна робота, майстерні навички.
Яку марку листового заліза використовуєте, можно поцікавитись? Дякую)
steel 0.8mm, gauge 18
Bro you know you can buy fenders on rockauto on the cheap
🤣
So, can the company pay him $150,000 dollars a year for his work? That’s $75.00/hr. A Porsche mechanic in the USA BILLS AT $130.00/hr. What is fair?
130$/hr is totally crazy. We charge 70€/h, that's fair. I dont want to be rich, I dont like expensive things and useless shiny things, I just want to create beautiful things, and make my client's dream come true, and be an example for my children
@@slgclassiccars4098 bravo bravissimo
Don't bump your Alfa Romeo....please.
en el minuto 9,55....siete años despues, ya estaba hecha la pieza
I dont get you
What did I just watch? I want my ten minutes back.
Tell me more
Combien de temps pour faire une pièce comme ça?
Environ 2,5 heure. J'irai plus vite pour la deuxieme
@@slgclassiccars4098 ça va, c'est raisonnable👍
This feels like watching a man in the stone age fashion a flint tip for an arrow. Yes, good craftsmanship and all that... but just picture in your head the what an astronomical difference in productivity there is between this and mass production. This is exactly why anyone watching this can afford the device it's being watched on: a quantum leap in productivity and a nose-dive of unit cost. That people today can afford good things is exactly and specifically because of that: not wasting time on miniscule productivity.
Man, it's obvious that you don't understand anything about what you see. This part does not exist. Do you understand what it means? We have to shape it by the unit. This car has been build in a very few quantity; do you think anyone is going to spend money to build a press to make a few parts?
@@slgclassiccars4098 I didn't say I never realized it was a custom part - what I did say it's a waste of time.
@@LegateMalpais ok, and my question is: why do you consider that as a waste of time?
@@slgclassiccars4098 because it literally is: a grown man, making a "toy" for a 50+ year old man, that's not practical and "fun" in a very subjective way.
Meanwhile some factory worker that services 50 different presses part of an assembly line contributed to making maybe 500 cars with actual tolerances that are 100x better.
The point is moot. I see this ad stupid as an old beerbelly f××× spending time and money on building a scale city section with a model railroad. Yes, "master craftsman", "incredible work" all of that. At the end of the day it's still a stupid waste of time. Like painting a modern piece of art. It's so insignificant that unless someone APPRECIATES someone doing it manually it will just blend in and be "meh, some old car".
@@LegateMalpais This is almost the most stupid thing I ever read. So you're one of those people who think that craftsmanship is pointless because there are factories, one of those people who think that a painting by a master is absurd because there are printers. You're one of those who think that poetry has been totally useless since chatgpt came into being, and that sculture hasn't deserved to exist since the 3d printer came into being.
Your words are what I fight against, and what amazes my customers.
I'm not disappointed not to count you among my customers.