On "Bit Abuse", Proper Frames and Rollkur
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2018
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It makes me sad because Raleigh made a video and it had one of my videos in it. I was riding a pony and he reared and I pulled on his face by accident. She kept saying bad words at me and saying that I can't ride. I emailed her and asked her if she could take the video down and she said that I abused my pony and that I shouldn't ride in a bit (I use a loose ring, double broken) and everyone in the comments was saying stuff about me too. She said that a real rider wouldn't use bits and a horse wouldn't rear with a real rider. I know that she's wrong, but just seeing her say that and all the people in the comments agreeing with her really made me upset.
Rose The Cat See, this is why I have such a problem with the way she does some things. That’s just bullying and it offers no education for anyone! The fact that she wouldn’t take it down, either, is really quite nasty. Everyone makes mistakes and when unexpected things happen, sometimes riders are caught by surprise and end up doing things like catching the mouth without meaning to (Raleigh did the same in the clips of Link rearing up on her). Really unfortunate that she did that to you.
Rose The Cat We all have bad days with our riding and we shouldn't be judged just on those days, and having a bad day and making a mistake doesn't make you a bad rider or abusive. ❤
Rose The Cat I am currently trying to tell people on her channel EXACTLY that. Obviously you didn't purposely pull on your horse. I don't understand how people don't see that she is a bully. I am sorry that happened to you. ❤
Just remember we all have our bad days, and also remember in these clips Shelby has, anytime Raliegh's horse acts up ends up pulling on the horses face. It's a natural reaction to pull on the reins when something happens even if you don't mean to. Watch any of her videos and she's doing the same.
Rose The Cat Raleigh is an immature, ignorant bitch. Don't let her get to you!
can i put you in my pocket so i can carry you around and pull you out whenever someone tRIES ME
Mustang Barrel Racer literally THE best idea
Mustang Barrel Racer Also for that time someone says "ridings not a sport"...
I ride bitless, but I really couldn't care if other people ride in a bit or not as long as the horse it happy and comfortable there is nothing wrong, Raleigh is just giving people who ride bitless a bad name by picking holes in everything but her own riding and making out as if its a massive deal when it really isn't unless the horse is uncomfortable and annoyed with the bit.
TabbyTeddy oml yes... also your profile pic is holo!! #holosexual ?
yass well it was before I changed xD I legit changed it just before I saw this
yassss holosexual for life!
Tabby teddy that is really well said
TabbyTeddy 👍all I want is for every horse to be comfterble and happy...
I never leave one of these videos of yours without learning something, this is why I’m subscribed to you and refuse to even give Raleigh my views any more. I would say that I hope Raleigh watches this, but honestly, she is so caught up in her own opinions that she isn’t able to accept an alternate point of view and would no doubt disagree with everything, no matter how many references you cite.
Also I’m really glad you talked about the effects of riding a horse in a hollow frame. I’m sick of people attacking riders if their horse dips behind the vertical every so often but riding horses with their head in the air and a hollow back is completely fine, when in reality, it’s actually much worse for the horse.
i used to be subscribed to raleigh until the jeteventing thing happened and then started watching her videos again. about i month ago i completely unsubscribed and refused to have anything to do with her because of her hipocracy and just blatant disrespect to others.
Holly Lenahan preach it gurl!!ur soo right !!just because Raleigh has the perfectly broke horse thats broke in all directions, that doesnt mean she can go telling other people that their abusing their horse and not listen to them when they say i accidentally got him in the mouth..shes super caught up in her own opinions !!
Holly Lenahan True
Very True I always there something
I think Raleigh is the 'Tana Mongeau' of the Equestrian community- she uses the "let me say something shocking, let me be loud and obnoxious, let me exaggerate my stories" route to gain fame and boost her notoriety. I just think that she doesn't believe in what she says most of the time and just does things to get a reaction (good or bad) out of people.
Narcissa Furniss preach it girl! You have that young pegged.
Luckily things change..
She's still loud, but in many ways, she's promoting real horse abuse, instead of nagging about bits or not...
Now everyone wait for the Shelby Dennis threw SHADE AT ME ?!?!? Video
omg yessss cant wait
If only that other girl was mature like Shelby and Jill
Annie Burton If she tries her ass is gonna get knocked to the ground by Shelby's sass and straight factsss.
tori etc yes it will happen
I would love it if she does, but she’ll look so bad doing it because Shelby has presented her side in a smart, calm and respectful way. The only thing she has to grasp onto as an argument is. that “oh that’s an old video/photo of me”, but that just reinforces Shelby argument that you can’t judge other people on their riding because you don’t know the context.
Also a side note- it’s easy to point fingers and list off what people are doing wrong without really providing any real sources or means of education to help people out. Yelling at people for being abusive doesn’t help them if you don’t have the means to prove your point or a decent way to educate them. If people are truly invested in animal welfare, they need to care enough to do their homework and get the information that they need to present their argument in an accurate and educational manner. Intentionally misleading people by stating that studies are conclusive and there’s no way around that ruins the argument and makes people less likely to listen. Be honest. If people are truly concerned about equine welfare, look for the truth. Not just what makes you comfortable. And care enough to provide the information in a mature and responsible manner that people will be likely to listen to. Attacking people and calling them abusers doesn’t make them open to conversation.
Shelby Dennis finally someone who actually does their research. Raleigh is so biased and your sources just knock her's out of the ballpark!
I really liked that you mentioned frames because she’s very against pessoa lunging systems but maybe she’ll understand importance of correct frames if she sees this. Also I’m very reassured by this video, I was going to try a hackamore but now I won’t
Shelby Dennis could you do a video over how to teach the horse to engage? Please!
Thank you so much and she said something like the horse won't take the bit because it hurts but my greeny plays around when I put the halter on and brings her head low to grad the bit from my hand😂No one trained her to she just does. Raleigh said maybe it's because someone kept hitting her teeth with the bit until she took it so she is trying to get away from pain, but she never had anyone else on her like what😂? Could you do a video on how to teach your horse the proper frame?
Shelby Dennis agreed!
I just love how mature and professional you are about everything. It honestly makes me confused at how immature Raleigh is. The amount of anger and hate she has to spread is ridiculous.
You know, if what you're pursuing in college doesn't work out, you could look into being a lawyer. You have all the makings of a good one, haha. But in all seriousness, a very well-done video. Facts before emotion. Mature, logical arguments. People need to take some notes, because THIS is how a debate is done.
actually, the law works like this as I study law. reason foreseeable is what the main aspect is and sorry I really like Shelby channels but females work mostly on emotions and men use facts.. why more me are lawyers! hope that help u understand how our crap justice system works.
Thank you, Shelby, for standing up and saying what needed to be said, and also using your platform not to just bully, but actually educate.
Yes, horses do those things like rearing out of pain but also if they’re just excited or scared, so many good points, thanks for presenting it in such a perfect way
I love how you don’t even have to say Raleigh you just have to say she and everyone knows who your talking about
Rebekah Morgan true
Rebekah Morgan or she posts fuckin pictures of Raleigh so we know who she’s taking about lmaoo
@@evimarioli3039 Most riders support bitless riding?
You are always putting your facts before your emotions, which is amazing. I love you. Thank you for helping me to learn something new every time I watch your videos.
Amelia's Menagerie Raleigh has emotions....and no facts
this is so refreshing omg. Shelby thank you, cant wait for " Shelby dennis threw shade at me" I already have my comment ready.
I wish I could like this 10,000 times
2 dislikes : raleighs 2 channels
Horse Lover nah it’s just Raleigh’s one fan that is EXACTLY LIKE HER
I can't believe I've found someone who actually understands the importance of riding a horse into an outline! And not pulling on the mouth to get their nose in!! Thank you there's not enough people like you !
She's so mean! People that produce content like her are the reason some people are too scared or nervous to produce their own content!
Thanks Shelby for the informative videos! 🖤
ThatRoanieBaby thats actually why i dont post
Equine Forever Girl, Same.
I rarely have seen Link in a proper frame. His back is often hollowed and his head is always stretched out like a giraffe. Her hackamore is generally sitting too low on Link's face too which is far worse than a damn snaffle bit. It's disturbing how hypocritical she is and she'll bully her own followers without knowing anything about them, their horse or their riding ability. Thank you Shelby for always making informative and unbiased videos.
I always rode with a bit. I NEVER had a horse rear on me, or buck. I have hand reared orphan foals and started young horses and retrained OTTB's. I tried a hackamore once on my QH mare, she hated it and just stopped, refused to move. There are so many more things to upset your horse than a bit. I did prefer eggbutts and sweet iron 'broken' bits depending on the horse. My lovely last girl, a QH did not like being ridden in an English style saddle but was OK Western (I am in Australia) or a stock saddle. You have to 'listen' to your horse and adjust your own style to suit them. My two cents worth.
My Appy x QH doesn't like English bits or saddles as he would always buck or get away from me when using a snaffle, he never listened to my hand or leg cues in English but i've been trying to make time to convince my horse into letting me ride him bareback and bridleless without him acting up. His western tack is his favorite by far.
I personally think you and JETEventing should collab to explain this. I'm getting tired of the Bullying going on on Raleighs channel, calling out and displaying tons of people and then talking shit about them. What I find ironic is her new year new me video she was like "last year I was very immature and ect" like and she's STILL doing it. Now she's even doing a Equestrian reacts to Other equestrians where she publicly downs people and channels and How can the blunt bullying be allowed on UA-cam. And what I love the most. When she gets called out she acts victimized and hurt. I think by how much pain she's in someone must be using a bit on her!😂🤔😒
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! But really; preach it, Shelby!! 🙌🙌🙌
So. Much. Respect. For. You. 👏😭
Yes. Yes. Yes! The importance of teaching long and low to a horse before bringing them into the more uphill frame is so often over looked. Like I said on your poll my horses are trained to work long and low on the lunge without training aids to begin the strengthening process, I also do lateral work on the ground to improve core and pectoral muscles in order for the horse to be able to appropriately lift their backs. Think you've inspired me to do a video on this. 😊
I seriously appreciate your maturity in these videos. This is how you get your point across and get people to listen. Thank you.
Preach those facts Shelby yesssssss 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Freaking love you for making facts/evidence based videos!!!
You are a great social media influencer because you don't post things that are only based off your opinions and no factual evidence!
Thank you so much for making this video! I am sick and tired of people making uneducated rants about bits and whips being “abusive.” As a dressage rider, I have had people come up to me before (even at my school) who’ve seen pictures of me riding on Instagram and say that because I ride in a bit (a double jointed snaffle) and hold a dressage whip (which I rarely use, and if I do I’m always sure to be careful) that I’m abusive and should not be allowed around horses. They also tell me that I shouldn’t be riding my horse on the bit because I’m doing “permanent damage to their neck,” even though I am careful to make sure my horse is stretched and warmed up properly and is not always in a frame. I’m so glad that there are people like you out here to make well educated videos on these kinds of topics 🙂
You're so educated, smart and talented! You're going places and I can't wait to see what your future holds. 🙌🏼
TaylorSpurgeon į totally agree
TaylorSpurgeon I love your channel and Shelby's, you guys are the best equine UA-cam channels
I know I have said this before, I am very proud of you. You have a head on your shoulder. You are so very knowledgeable when it comes to horses. I know your parents are very proud of you. ❤❤❤❤❤
Shelby, can you do a video on how to get your horse to stretch their head down and engage their hind end while riding?
horseandogs yesssssss
On your last bit video, there was a girl in the comments saying she thinks that bits cause more abuse. I wrote that anything used wrong can be abusive. I said I use the Myler port the way it's intended: loose contact and using my seat more than my hands (like everyone should). She then preached about how my bit was "cruel". Thanks for keeping it real, Shelby. Breath of fresh air.
And this is exactly why you have quickly become one of my favourite youtubers
honestly so impressed by the level of maturity you continue to have when dealing and speaking on these topics. this. this is how it should be done. major props to you. this is why i keep coming back to your channel.
This is much more pleasent to listen to than Rick Gore lol
That's because you're a dummy!
I'M JUST KIDDING!!! :)
VIXEN GAMING well said!!!
Hi horsey people!
LOL :D
I love Rick, but Shelby is much calmer with sources/evidence, which I like.
You deserve 1million subs tbh. I never leave a video without learning something and it's always backed with facts.
I love that in your videos, you are always calm and controlled, not jumping on UA-cam and just reacting. Your videos are so informational, and always get me thinking.
For the first time in his life my 15 year old gelding is learning to carry himself properly and I can already tell a difference in his muscles and over all strength. It's so so important for every horse and I've found it's never to late to start!
Omg. I love you! You are putting your view across without being rude or judgemental. You show an equal balance in your argument whilst also sticking to you point. It is completely up to the rider and how they choose to use the equipment. Loved it
OMG I LOVE YOU SHELBY! Your videos are all so informational... this is why I love your channel.👏🏻❤️
Thank you for this video. It is so important that people have all the FACTS about bits/bitless and then make their decision on what equipment to use. Like you said, everything can be abused, and there are so many other aspects (like correct muscles) which should be put much more into focus. No matter what equipment you use, if they don’t use themselves correctly you are “harming” them either way. Raleigh could influence so many young riders in a positive way by making videos more like these. At least we have you 😄
I absolutely LOVE your videos like this. It's not a video attacking, it's simply you sitting down and taking the time to calmly talk to us & educate us because of something you've seen that's not right and further educate us about horses like you have in this one.
I love how you don't just argue on one point, you show the good and the bad for both sides which is how it should be done. Good on you for making these videos Shelby! :)
I love that you have your sources when you talk of something I always learn something new. ❤️💜
You use real information and are very calm and honest and I really love these informational videos!
Yassss Shelby I love this video and I’m so happy you made it!!!
You are so knowledgeable! I am SO SO SO happy you made this video!!!!! :)
When you mentioned young riders feeling bad about listening to Raleigh's videos, that is totally me. I ride in a bit because that's what my instructor gives me. I can't believe I found this video, and I'm so happy I saw it, it makes me feel a lot better about riding in a bit!
I really love how well educated you are and you dont go out of your way to call people names or be immature. Definitely a big thumbs up for you to keep doing what you do! 👍🏻
I love how you weren't immature about making a video back to her. You honestly just explained your side, and i really admire that. You could have just been like your an idiot and bashed her but you didn't. Such a humble rider for such a good one!
Y.E.S. thank you so much!! You hit every point, provided evidence/examples, and most importantly, you were calm and collected! I'm so glad a video was made about this!! I really hope Raleigh sees it😅
can't wait to watch this video!! Love you and the pons!!
Wonderfully put, objectively positioned - and kudos for supporting your views with well documented data. This is certainly a topic with varied opinions - but as is clear from your videos - you place the well-being of your horses first and foremost and it is very obvious you research extensively before making any decision where your equine partners are concerned.
As I have mentioned before in a previous comment - be proud of your accomplishments and know that your viewpoint is not only credible to your viewers - but far more respected because of your intellectual approach and the positive energy you exude with your delivery.
Keep studying and continue to share your learnings and experiences with us.
Shelby, you are so so so strong to say this! I would have chickened our by now, I am so happy that you are doing this. I completely agree with you on everything girl. Just keep slaying and always defend your word Shelby! ❤️ you are amazing girly!!!!!
Raleigh has always been a major hypocrite. Nothing she’s ever said has NOT been hypocritical.
Shelby, you are 100% right. Lots of people have called Raleigh out on her ridiculous assumptions and bullshit. It’s kind of nice to see a bigger UA-cam channel make this video.
Thank you. That was a true neccessity. I had the same thoughts all the time.. I really hope you won't get overrun with hate by her followers. Just keep the positive value and positive influence of your videos on youtube in mind. What you say is important and makes a difference!
I absolutely love this video. My personal opinion on the bit vs bit less debate is do what your horse goes best in. And I love that you talk about proper frames for horses when being ridden. As usual an amazing video filled with well researched facts and a calm delivery. Thank you Shelby!
To be honest even though I don't care about uneducated opinions like hers, I couldn't help but question myself as a rider after watching videos or reading comments accusing everyone who uses a bit of abuse. I knew she hasn't any actual evidence to prove her point but I really love my horse and I want what's best for him, so only the thought that I could be hurting him because of the bit I ride in, made me feel guilty. I know a lot of people have faced the same problem, so I wanted to thank you for clearing things up. You are seriously an amazing person thank you for educating the equine community ❤️
I can’t say enough on how much I admire your desire to take action. Thank you for the very educational video
Love this video! Very well done and educational!
it's incredible to actually have an extremely educated person with genuine sources talk about this topic
Loving this so much. Informative instead of insulting, promoting awareness instead of ignorance, and most of all being fair in your commentary eventhough the person in question certainly wasn't! I appreciate videos like this because you don't claim to know everything, and you genuinely care for the welfare of horses instead of bashing a screenshot of a person you don't even know! Thank you!
I love that you are willing to call her out on her shit... Someone needs to.
Fab video Shelby - and thank you for the links to the Padmavideo UA-cam account. I have watched a couple of these now and learnt so much!
It is so much better to listen to someone being profesional like this than to listen to someone yelling and name calling.
I love the contrast between this and Raleigh's video. You are mature and respectful and seem to have made this with the goal of informing people whereas she seemed to be just trying to spread hate. And I noticed the fact that you credible sources rather than biased studies. This is the correct way to show your point of view of something.
I love this video, it was very organized, consice and easy to understand. It taught me a lot and brought up some things I need to work on such as proper collection and frame. I have a 3 yo quarter horse so she's still learning but you gave a lot of good information for me to keep in mind. Thanks!
YAAAAS ALL HAIL SHELBY OUR QUEEEEEN 🙇🏽♀️🙇🏼👑👑
The way you did this video was so good. You don’t swear or shout and that’s the difference between you and her. She tries to get her point across by just shouting and swearing and pointing fingeres
And this is why Shelby is amazing!!!
Presenting ideas, *facts* and opinions in a civilised manor without bullying others....a perfect example on how to be taken seriously when arguing your side on a subject as opinionated as this. I can only wish that more equestrians were like you, Shelby!
Shelby I love how you are so honest, you are like my favorite UA-camr! Keep up the savage ness girl!!!
This video is so informative, I really love it! ❤️
I love how you are mature enough to talk about these topics and other people without having to cuss every five seconds to prove a point
Thank you so much for making this! I learned a lot and I hope Raleigh watches this and learns something
Every single equestrian needs to subscribe and watch your videos. You're such a great example with how you carry yourself - maturely and kind. You can see your knowledge in your riding videos and you always approach these type of debates so well. I really want to know if Raleigh has responded to any of these. I feel like she is at a loss for words. She should take some notes.
I'mma just straight up say that Shelby is my favourite youtuber ever. She actually links all of her sources and puts her facts first, unlike a certain "equestrian" we all know
Shelby you are so well spoken❤️
You are definitely the most reasonable and knowledgeable equine vlogger, so thank you for that. Wish you could have challenged Rick Gore a little bit because he's as unreasonable as Raleigh and his horses go around hollow all the time it's horrible! And he thinks everyone else does horrible things to horses but so does he! Ugh! So sick of the hypocrisy! Thank you for calling some of them out on it. It's easy to run around saying bits are abuse when your a back yard rider who knows nothing about how to teach a horse to use his body correctly when being ridden. Both Raleigh and Rick Gore are the same, banging around on their high headed horses, it's horrible!
Krystal Howard Watching Rick Gore makes me want to blow my brains out but if people sent me stuff like video clips or screenshots then I could, I just don’t wanna sift through hours of his garbage to find it 😂
Excellent video, agree with you 100%. The biomechanics of the horse including the engagement of the hind and lifting of the back (correct working of the horse) is so so so important.
Very well said Shelby Dennis. In my 40+ years of working with horses, I agree totally with what you are saying in this video. Thank you for addressing this issue. Best Regards from Ontario, Canada, Jenn.
OMG! Thank you Shelby! Faith in humanity!
Preach girl, I was thinking the same thing with the 'horses have bad days too ' vid. 👍🏼
OMFG!!!!!! YAAASSSSS GIIIRRRLLLLL PREACH!!!!!! MORE PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS!!!!!!!
Bless this video...and bless you Shelby for the education you provide for equestrians
-Caffeine
Actually incredible 😍 insightful, humbling, realistic, educated. Girl. Yes.
Thanks so much for making this!
Yes yes yes yes yes thank you ❤ I'm so sick of everybody attacking each other. There's no need!
Thank you so much for this, people don't realize that these are not a weapon of abuse but rather a tool for the well-being of the horse. I know that if I attempted riding my young spooky thoroughbred bitless, we wouldn't have a productive and informational ride, but more of a me not trying to die ride. I think eventually I would love to teach him bitless for that extra level of trust (just like you and Milo who I look up to as an example for my young thoroughbred) but people need to realize our different situations and the level of trust between a horse and rider. Plus, riding a 4,3 jumper bitless is REALLY SCARY, I've tried... So, the equestrian world thanks you and we have your back for further confrontations!
Shelby the equine savior
Brilliant as always
Can every equestrian pls watch this video. Ilysm Shelby thanks for being the good example the equestrian community needs right now.
Preach!! Could watch you all day
I kind of want to see what Rick Gore's reaction would be to this 😂
Awesome video!! Definitely sharing this video with anyone that says putting a horse in a frame is bad for them
Exclamation Pointless god he is annoying 😂
He'll have no facts and make it about how Shelby is a woman and therefore her opinions and facts mean less than his as he is a man 😂
Equimania That sounds about right. He's a sexist, ignorant, old man who thinks a little too much of himself and his way of life. I'm so glad I stopped watching him and found people Like Shelby and Jill.
I'm very thankful I've found your channel , I've already learned so much . I currently do not own a horse , I simply love them .
No words just applause 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I really appreciate that you do solid research and you conduct yourself very well. It probably sounds a little stupid but I hadn't thought really thought so much about carriage in a while but it's definitely something I'll be refreshing my memory bank on now.
Thank you so much Shelby, my trainer always told me to lay softly and not rely on the bit but i never knew why. thanks for explaing it
Thank you for this video! Halleluhja! 😻 you are amazing!
When raleigh claims there are “thousands” of studies and clinical trials to back her up but only cites 2, and Shelby acknowledges both sides and cites 23+ sources....
Very good video!
I totally agree with all the points you made in this video. Love your videos!! 💕
I want the entire world to watch this