In the earlier version, you can use IAN for RNAV whether it is LPV or RNP. You do press APP to enable the glidepath capture in the final approach until the minimum. The glidepath is virtual and FMC generated. Have not tried the LPV or GLS in the new version, but I guess you do press APP. Otherwise you will be doing LNAV+VNAV only.
19:15 If you press "APP" with RNAV, then its another approach called "IAN" that creates virtual ILS .. some operators might have rating for that to land with. Great content by the way 👍
APP button will activate IAN system which will give you "FAC" (Final Approach Course) and "GP" (Glide Path) on the PFD for guidance. Similar to LOC, G/S for an ILS. I like to press APP for RNAV approaches.
Great tutorial once again Micah! Thanks! I am really struggling with the landings in the Zibo and these are very helpful videos. Keep doing this good work, appreciate it mate. Greetings from Rotterdam
Just one comment at the Authorization Required on the chart. It is not an authorization by ATC, but the crew itself needs to have an authorization to fly RNP approaches (which requires proper training - RNP 0.5 for example requires a refresh every 90 days)! Great video by the way!
Well well well, a very usefull, complete, clear and real tutorial. How many info mentioned and explained here in this video. Thank you! Cheers from Argentina.
The DA altitude number next to the one in parenthesis is the AGL altitude. So for instance on the LNAV your DA is 920 ft MSL with a RVR of 2400, and an AGL altitude of 490 ft.
Its called Decision Altitude for a reason. You make the decision at that altitude to miss the approach hence you will go below that DA. That is expected and the approach is designed with that factored in.
One other point. On the LNAV approach the minimum is a MDA which means Minimum Descent Altitude and YOU CANNOT GO BELOW that altitude unlike the DA minimum.
Like the tutorial. You wonder if it is necessary to press APP. My understanding and experience is that you do need to do this if you wish to engage CMD2 in addition to CMD1, to enable an auto flare landing.
Excellent video. Very educational. How do you get the cockpit view to look like that where you can see out the side window. No matter what I do the pilots chair keeps blocking my view of the displays. Is there some trick I don't know about?
Where can I get a list that I can print of the different types of navigation systems and their meanings as you explain in the beginning of your video? Thanks!
Great tutorial but still don’t understand the difference between LNAV+VNAV and LPV? Because in both circumstances I configure the MCP to minimums. In other words what’s the point with LNAV+VNAV, when you can get lower minimums at LPV? Thanks.
great tutorial micah thanks. are you required to enter a frequency like you do for ils or system finds it automatically when you select rnav app from arrival page?
very few B737 are LPV capabile I m not pretty sure if it is enough to veryfy the chanel frequency on App page...or you need MMR tuned like if you want to fly a GLS approach??? Did you fly real 737 ???becaouse only what i know some 737 CL equiped with LPV capability have MMR for tuning the chanel and updatet FMC to calculate your GP from GPS corrected altitude( so no longer APV baro). but I m sure that you dont need to add 50ft to you DA beacause HL is already included in LPV and LNAVVANV minimas. Most of 737 have uncompensated baro so if you are out of temperature range you have to fly LNAV only app and use MDA and add cold temperature correction to you MDA FAF and MSA altitudes , if you decided to use CDFA technique with VDP in that case add 50ft to MDA or if it is on jepessen non precisiion chart state DA/MDA..(real 737)
try to fly LPV approach in very low temeperature e.g. -15°C and if you are on GP exactly comapere your altitude on some fix point with altitude stated on jep. chart If you are higer that means your GP is APV compensated and you are flying LPV approach with correct true altitudes, because if you are flying LNAV/VNAV with APV baro system( most of 737 fleet all over the world and A320 as well) your altidude will be the same as in chart FIX point but your true altitude will be lower. Let me know, but may be X plane altimeters does not include temperature errors and all approaches we are flying in ZIBO are in standard isa 15°C .
I believe that is on the vertical requirements and that is in feet so not too surprising for that part of the flight. Notice the actual NP is much more accurate.
@@MicahMesser Yes its probably true. At 10:10 you mention that Minimum Decision Altitude is 920 feet, but that does not equal 490 meters. My question is, what does 490 actually mean on the approach plate?
@@Karlsmarten If your question is still actual, I can answer it. 490 FEET (not metres) is the minimum above Touch Down Zone Elevation (TDZE). TDZE in Seattle is 430 feet (see upper left corner of the chart). Hence, 920 - 430 = 490. The same for LNAV/VNAV minimums (840/44 410): 840 - 430 = 410. And once again for LPV minimums which are 630/18 200: 630 - 430 = 200. In other words, 920, 840 and 630 are DA and MDA above sea level. And 490, 410 and 200 are DA and MDA above ground level in the vicinity of TDZE. What does this mean for you as a pilot? If you use BARO minimus on EFIS panel, you should set 630 feet for LPV. If you prefer RADIO minimums, you should set 200 feet for LPV.
In the earlier version, you can use IAN for RNAV whether it is LPV or RNP. You do press APP to enable the glidepath capture in the final approach until the minimum. The glidepath is virtual and FMC generated. Have not tried the LPV or GLS in the new version, but I guess you do press APP. Otherwise you will be doing LNAV+VNAV only.
19:15 If you press "APP" with RNAV, then its another approach called "IAN" that creates virtual ILS .. some operators might have rating for that to land with.
Great content by the way 👍
APP button will activate IAN system which will give you "FAC" (Final Approach Course) and "GP" (Glide Path) on the PFD for guidance. Similar to LOC, G/S for an ILS. I like to press APP for RNAV approaches.
Great tutorial once again Micah! Thanks! I am really struggling with the landings in the Zibo and these are very helpful videos. Keep doing this good work, appreciate it mate. Greetings from Rotterdam
Wow, you have so many videos Micah and I keep running into them when I need help with X-Plane. I really appreciate you taking the time to share them!
Just one comment at the Authorization Required on the chart. It is not an authorization by ATC, but the crew itself needs to have an authorization to fly RNP approaches (which requires proper training - RNP 0.5 for example requires a refresh every 90 days)! Great video by the way!
Micah your Zibo tutorials are very useful. Thanks for your time and effort and keep up the good work.
Well well well, a very usefull, complete, clear and real tutorial. How many info mentioned and explained here in this video. Thank you! Cheers from Argentina.
The DA altitude number next to the one in parenthesis is the AGL altitude. So for instance on the LNAV your DA is 920 ft MSL with a RVR of 2400, and an AGL altitude of 490 ft.
Its called Decision Altitude for a reason. You make the decision at that altitude to miss the approach hence you will go below that DA. That is expected and the approach is designed with that factored in.
One other point. On the LNAV approach the minimum is a MDA which means Minimum Descent Altitude and YOU CANNOT GO BELOW that altitude unlike the DA minimum.
Like the tutorial. You wonder if it is necessary to press APP. My understanding and experience is that you do need to do this if you wish to engage CMD2 in addition to CMD1, to enable an auto flare landing.
My understanding is RNAV isn't used for autoland as it's not considered a precision approach.
ANP = Actual Navigation Performance :)
Excellent video. Very educational. How do you get the cockpit view to look like that where you can see out the side window. No matter what I do the pilots chair keeps blocking my view of the displays. Is there some trick I don't know about?
Move your point of view forward and increase your view angle in the settings.
It is an approach plate. As you know a chart is different than an approach plate.
Thank you so much you have cleared up how to fly the rnav app love the video coupd you show how to set it up on the cdu next please and thank you
Great tutorial! TKS!
thanks for this tutorial, very clear, im just about to start a flight to EGPB rwy15 rnav, so lets see! :=)
Where can I get a list that I can print of the different types of navigation systems and their meanings as you explain in the beginning of your video? Thanks!
ANP stands for Actual Navigation performance.
Correct. Old video, I know it now! lol
Great tutorial but still don’t understand the difference between LNAV+VNAV and LPV? Because in both circumstances I configure the MCP to minimums. In other words what’s the point with LNAV+VNAV, when you can get lower minimums at LPV? Thanks.
Some approaches don't have LPV and some aircraft are not equipped for it.
@@MicahMesser Ok Thanks, but in terms of the B737 I guess it’s company specific whether you fly LNAV+VNAV or LPV
Not gonna lie I wasnt expecting NOT having to enter anything in the MCDU
Again here to learn sth new.. good job :)
great tutorial micah thanks. are you required to enter a frequency like you do for ils or system finds it automatically when you select rnav app from arrival page?
Nope. Just GPS based
very few B737 are LPV capabile I m not pretty sure if it is enough to veryfy the chanel frequency on App page...or you need MMR tuned like if you want to fly a GLS approach??? Did you fly real 737 ???becaouse only what i know some 737 CL equiped with LPV capability have MMR for tuning the chanel and updatet FMC to calculate your GP from GPS corrected altitude( so no longer APV baro). but I m sure that you dont need to add 50ft to you DA beacause HL is already included in LPV and LNAVVANV minimas. Most of 737 have uncompensated baro so if you are out of temperature range you have to fly LNAV only app and use MDA and add cold temperature correction to you MDA FAF and MSA altitudes , if you decided to use CDFA technique with VDP in that case add 50ft to MDA or if it is on jepessen non precisiion chart state DA/MDA..(real 737)
try to fly LPV approach in very low temeperature e.g. -15°C and if you are on GP exactly comapere your altitude on some fix point with altitude stated on jep. chart If you are higer that means your GP is APV compensated and you are flying LPV approach with correct true altitudes, because if you are flying LNAV/VNAV with APV baro system( most of 737 fleet all over the world and A320 as well) your altidude will be the same as in chart FIX point but your true altitude will be lower. Let me know, but may be X plane altimeters does not include temperature errors and all approaches we are flying in ZIBO are in standard isa 15°C .
what zibo version where you using at the time of this video?
noiceeeee
What's the 'procedure' plugin called?
Hi Micah, wich version of Zibo are u using?
3.39.4
18:35 - Isnt 400 RNP very high or?
I believe that is on the vertical requirements and that is in feet so not too surprising for that part of the flight. Notice the actual NP is much more accurate.
@@MicahMesser Yes its probably true. At 10:10 you mention that Minimum Decision Altitude is 920 feet, but that does not equal 490 meters. My question is, what does 490 actually mean on the approach plate?
@@Karlsmarten If your question is still actual, I can answer it. 490 FEET (not metres) is the minimum above Touch Down Zone Elevation (TDZE). TDZE in Seattle is 430 feet (see upper left corner of the chart). Hence, 920 - 430 = 490. The same for LNAV/VNAV minimums (840/44 410): 840 - 430 = 410. And once again for LPV minimums which are 630/18 200: 630 - 430 = 200. In other words, 920, 840 and 630 are DA and MDA above sea level. And 490, 410 and 200 are DA and MDA above ground level in the vicinity of TDZE. What does this mean for you as a pilot? If you use BARO minimus on EFIS panel, you should set 630 feet for LPV. If you prefer RADIO minimums, you should set 200 feet for LPV.
Go to 4:32 please
What is ARM in a plane,
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You don't know whether to press APPR button and you stream a RNAV tutorial, hilarious
So is this comment ;)
Arrogant little troll!
There is no APPR button on a boeing. Thats airbus stuffs...