Was Michael Carrick Underappreciated? [How GOOD Was He Actually?]
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Michael Carrick is undoubtedly one of the finest football players to grace the deep lying midfielder position in recent memory.
Despite this, he is rarely spoken about when it comes to the Manchester United teams he played in. Adding onto that, England barely gave him a shot on the international stage.
But why is that? Was Michael Carrick, dare I say it, Underappreciated?
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0:00 - Introduction
02:09 - Early life and Career
05:17 - Roy Keane replacement?
07:22 - Michael Carrick's tactical deployment
09:22 - Michael Carrick was not Paul Scholes
10:23 - Notable Statistics
12:31 - Michael Carrick and the Three Lions
13:32 - Closing Thoughts
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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Correction: England did not qualify for the 2008 Euros. Apologies for the oversight on my part, not sure why I left that in there 🤦♂️
However, this doesn't alter the message of the video.
Great video bro, I'm loving your work :-)
They would have if Carrick was playing.. For years they needed a DM to compliment Gerrard and Lampard and there was 1 sitting right in front of them..
Did not quality for Euro 08 because England did not play Carrick. Spot on! Well done!
Are you South African??
He was good but never really a standout, both for Man Utd or England.
United fans know how good he was. And that's all that really matters.
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True that
So do Spurs fans! At least I do anyway.
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The whole world of football does not revolve around Manchester United. I am a Manchester United fan but I am a football fan first. Carrick was a very good player but he was not the best at his position, Alonso was better in English league. Busquet was another one that was better than him.
If Carrick was Spanish or Italian he would be have been way more appreciated. Such an underrated player.
The English fans don’t understand intelligent footballers. They prefer people who charge about like headless chickens because it’s easier for them to see and understand.
@@GhostofCTC Reminds me of all the Ozil hate now Arsenal cannot even string passes together
@@GhostofCTC correct... U give them pirlo or busquets... They would say these guys aren't physical enough
Would have given England much more balance in that era
@@Player1IeMaynooth England should have put Carrick in midfield with Lampard and Gerrard, instead of trying to fit them in a 2 man midfield.
You didn't notice what Michael Carrick brought to the side until he wasn't playing. Then you would realise that he was the metronome of the team.
Aye, conductor of the orchestra for me.
I still notice him not there.
People didn’t notice because he made it look so easy
Completely agree
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I’m a West Ham fan and saw him play as a youngster. He ran the show, never gave the ball away and settled the team. The best stat about Carrick at United was the difference in win % when he played vs when he didn’t. He made every team he played with better. A great player and wasted at international level, where the game suited his style much more than the premier league
Gerrard and Lombard were both great players but never jelled together in the England side and no England manager had the nerve to drop one of them, hence Carrick's lack of opportunity and perhaps Englands inability to succeed in that period (still not succeeding!).
I would say dude even when he was slowly starting to pass it literally made our midfields of Anderson/Cleverley or Pogba,Herrera/Fellaini looked so much better than they actually are.
2008 season. Only time chelsea beat United Carrick did not play. Owen Hargreaves did. He was good, just not Carrick.
Him and Darren fletcher were both underrated
Although Darren was underrated he had nothing on carrick
@@jackdubberley63 different type of player. Fletcher was a ball winner, had the energy to press and was a great passer of the ball. He could score too. A midfield trio of Carrick, Scholes and Fletcher really was something special in big games. I remember he had a spell between late in the 06-07 season to 08-09 (prior to his condition hurting his career) where always in the first team and was a big game player. Missing out in the 08 CL Final really drove him on. He elevated his game. He was cruelly sent off in the 09 CL Semi Final. Shame. His career never hit the heights it should have done.
0:52 Alan Smith punching Darren Fletcher. lol
Carrick and Fletcher were the players I respected most of Man United who I absolutely despised (and still do tbf) they both did the unheralded jobs and the dirty work and didn't get enough credit for it. I make the argument sometimes that if United had Fletcher for the 2009 CL, they would've won, they dominated early on in that game but eventually lost control after Barca's first goal and that probably doesn't happen with Fletcher enforcing with Carrick alongside him, they bullied my team (Arsenal) in the semi-finals
@@stealthiscool Glad to see that someone makes the same argument with me.
The absence of Fletcher was a key reason in the loss of Manchester United
People who actually understand football, would appreciate Carrick. Most CDM's can't do the basics consistently. Carrick was one of the best at doing that. Pep really liked him and that says a lot.
hevwould have been amazing in a
Pep side
If on matchday I saw his name on the teamsheet.. the excitement I got will be out of the world..
Simply not true. Game isn't about pace but he was so ponderous, slowed the game when it needed a pinging pass. Too often played it safe. Cleverly was far superior and was lambasted for following Moyes' tactics, yet people praise Carrick for doing far worse.
Pep praise Carrick and Fergie praise Busquets
Both players are important and underrated enough for both Barca and MU
@@badwolf7777 Carrick has far better playmaking abilities. He was key to Fergie's adaptation in the Euro competitions.
I was upset when we signed him back in 2006 because I thought he was boring. I just didn't know football back then though. This guy was amazing and a huge factor in all the trophies united won with him.
I was underwhelmed to say the least. I could *not* have been more wrong!
Well you should ask Adrian Durham. Never heard someone gush so much about one player.
All he did was pass backwards or sideways, I thought he was awful. Then later on in his career he was the only player we had who could execute a forward pass and open up or create a play.
Embarrassed to admit I was the same and even up to 2010 I was still kind of saying he was just a good engine in midfield but never really rated him. I was 16 then and played striker but then got moved back to CM when I went to senior football and I started trying to watch various midfield players to see the positions they took up to try and adapt my own game that’s when I really started noticing how much Carrick done for the team. Prob my favourite player from then on in.
As an Arsenal fan I always knew he had something different. Only Bechs had better long balls when Utd would counter at speed on the 93rd minute and score the all important winner.
His introduction into the side led to three titles on the bounce. It’s not a coincidence
That's why we need Declan rice
@@manny6669 no we don't
@@chukslarry007 who do you recommend then
@@chukslarry007 We aren't going anywhere with McFred
@@geoffreyg.n4503 we are definitely not going anywhere with declan rice as well. Infact we would decline witj him in that position
Such an underrated baller. He deserves the recognition, people don't give recognition to deep lying players. You still have to do a video on Roberto Baggio 😂
Agreed!
We'll get there haha
@@FootballIconic Disagree, If Sir Alex Ferguson (the greatest football manager) keeps you in his team for the lengh he kept carrick then he is not underrated
Could easily say the same about Gareth Barry... It's not a glamorous role and very few players will ever get the credit they deserve for playing it, but it can really make a team tick.
@@randomchap7952 of course he was underrated. He didn't even rated highly to be selected in England squad
@@EnglishTMTB Even Xabi Alonso
I'm guilty of failing to appreciate him enough when he played for us, may be because football was evolving and I wanted United to invest in players like David Silva and Yaya Toure. But when I watch McFred failing to do what Carrick was doing alone, I have come to realize how good he was.
Haha
It is the same with Ozil, Arsenal cannot even string passes together anymore lol
Maybe matic is more similar to carrick. Better physicality but worse passer.
@@albertlinggo3999 Yeah. Matic can pass but I think our forwards are not smart enough to make good runs bar Cavani
This is a debate, mcfred or carrick :D Well said. 2 guys can't even do the 1 job Carrick did on his own haha
You clearly don’t know about football
The funniest part is that, all the england managers at that time had coaching experience in italy. They should be like the masters when come to using regista.
Except those 2 are from an age where the regista had died off. They were dinosaurs and on the verge of being outdated. Cappello is pure 442 and never did he use a regista. Look at his best teams with milan, roma and juve. None of them used a regista. Same story with Erikson.
I've been saying this for years that if England wanted to win trophy.. make sure Carrick is in the team..
An absolute Rolls Royce of a player, top 5 United midfielders of all time, only real United fans who watched every game knows the score, legend.
I love your analogy thank you. I might even steal it. As someone else above said, for Utd fans he WAS appreciated. What a great player. Class supreme. Similar to Irwin, didn’t really do bad games. I remember when we battered Roma, 7-2, that game summed him up. I’m glad he’s still at the club.
@@mankydave67 it was 7-1
Scholes, Robson, Keane, Charlton, Edwards are the top 5. But big Michael isn't many spots away from that list.
We appreciated Carrick because he was the closest thing we got to replace Keano and Scholesy and played a huge role for us, other fans didn't appreciate him much just like any CDM or deep lying midfielder.... I would suggest doing a video on Park Ji sung, he too was essential for us and overlooked due to the amazing strikers we had
Agreed, park was such a big game player too
I think that was the problem people were looking for a keane clone you just don't replace players like that and it was unfair to compare them might have helped if he wasn't given the 16 shirt that led to even more comparisons
Park was the definition of a Widemidfielder. Proper intelligent and the engine on him was out of this world. Being surrounded by technically amazing talents made him the worst combination of winger and fullback you could come up against. Man Utds shape under Ferguson was dependent on having him on the flank opposite CR7 or Nani. Would love to see a video on him.
What’s CDM
@@user-pq4gz8lq3q a central defensive midfielder
You should do a vid on ji sung park
In the pipeline!
@@FootballIconic very exciting 😁
@@FootballIconic nice
Overrated, good, but overrated
@@cadenbrown8985 Your comment is impressively insulting. If you've watched, you'd know.
When Pep Guardiola describes you as one of the best CDMs he’s ever seen, when he coached arguably the best ever in Sergio Busquets, that alone says just how great he was. And in todays game, he’d be in Balon D’Or lists and would be running the midfield for Man City or Real Madrid.
i mean guardiola said that matheus nunes is one of the best in the world but still carrick was class
A player like Carrick is what Man United are screaming for right now!
A thousand times yes! We never really replaced him, I'm convinced that a player in the Carrick mould would do wonders for us (this young James Garner lad who's currently out on loan is apparently very similar to him, which is an exciting thought).
@@danielr3522 Garner have apparently trained alot with Carrick
Exactlyyy
@@handerborte97 He couldn't ask for a better teacher :-)
@@handerborte97 Just better hope by 2022/23 he’s ready if he gets to play for a PL side next season on loan
As a 13 year old growing up,Carrick is one of the reasons I wanted to become a deep lying midfielder and a player that I did try to model as a kid.
I'd like to think every United fan knows he's such an underrated legend for our club, same with Darren Fletcher
I loved how he controlled the tempo of games. He knew when to slow it down and when to make a quick deceive pass. Brilliant player enjoyed watching him.
This United team would thrive with a player like Carrick right now
To see him in midfield feeding Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood would be amazing.
He does what a combination of Fred and Scott do but better
Declan Rice
@@orrinnirro carrick actually is a great passer unlike mcfred
@@harinhari7903 rice is only good off the ball.on the ball he is nowhere as good as carrick
Probably one of the most underrated players in the PL era.
- “I think Michael's the best central midfielder in English football. I think he's the best English player in the game.” Sir Alex Ferguson.
This might sound like a crazy thing to say, but he might just be the player I've most enjoyed watching. I always thought that a good acid test for whether someone really understood football was whether they rated Carrick - the more clueless ones didn't rate him at all.
So true
Facts bro
That’s a good acid test
factos.. literally every managers rate carrick so highly. even opposition players when interviewed post match were saying carrick was out of this world. "fans" who only watch highlights and dont play football think carrick is useless. it's crazy. Whenever Carrick wasnt playing manutd played a little worse. I remember a period where Darren Fletcher who looked like an amateur was learning the game so much along Carrick that they both bossed the midfield.
A proper fergie sighning. Quiet unassuming and all rounder .fergie knew what ingredients was needed in a player. Hes underrated coz he was an engine team player. I havent seen that for years now.
He was a metronome. Excellent player. Phenomenal reading of the game. I remember Man U fans who didn't rate him. As for England caps? I bet the Italians, Spanish or Germans would have been checking for distant family relations.
I use to feel distraught whenever Carrick wasn't starting a game. My friends erroneously thought I was unduly obsessed with him. He was such an amazing playing who always brought calm and direction to the team with his scintillating passes and great intelligence. For me, he is inarguably the best deep lying midfielder that has ever played the game.
Your point about stats is...well...on point. It doesn't always paint the whole picture. Context matters. Players like him and Scholes never got the same appreciation from English fans as other English midfielders (Lampard and Gerrard were incredible) but they did get recognition from their peers. Mostly from winners from continental Europe or teammates.
" I put Carrick first, then I built the whole team around him "
Me
Whoever followed Keane was always going to be in a shadow no matter how good they were. He was underrated as hell.
Michael Carrick what can I say just a legend one of the best midfielders in the world love by all Manchester United fans should have got more England caps and always remember one Michael Carrick every team like to have him
He was absolutely underrated. He was a master in his role.
This is the right time to finally watch this video. My legend
I am Chelsea fan, but I admire Carrick. He cost us many titles. He was amazing.
Carrick was a class act.
A genuine CDM. Line breaking Pass master
Saw him play many times and always was one of the (if not the best) player on the pitch every time
My friends in middle school called me Carrick because I was able to pull pretty good long passes back then
Remember when he outpaced Aguerö once?
This guy was a legend, one of the best passers I've ever seen.
Also you should do a vid on the most underrated player in that 08 United squad, Ji Sung Park.
Very, very under appreciated. His precision, dictating the tempo. Always humble and a very hard worker. Happy that he’s still in the United staff helping out the team.
I've always maintained that you could replace Busquets with Carras in those peak Barca teams and they would've done just as good if not better. A truly underappreciated player. Dude won a PL with Cleverly as his main partner for most of the season. Let that sink in.
In a midfield two 😢🙌🏿
Stumbled onto this video and it was a big test if I would like the channel moving forward. Carrick was one of my favorite United players as he wasn't a physical specimen or have heaps of pace but he saw the game in such a way that he was able to be super-efficient as you showed. Always loved the vision he had on the field.
Yes he was unappreciated outside United but I couldn't care about that he was my favourite player for united from when we signed him to when he retired.
Carrick was the key to playin Lampard and Gerrard together. Genius!!!
and they picked gareth barry ffs.
@@tris421 I still don't understand that to this day. . Michael Carrick was better in every category
@@thegreatone24 So true. I think Barry must have had some dirty pics of Sven & Ulrika Jonsson to keep getting picked Lmao.
@@thegreatone24 Sadly it was the English mentality of having players who looked to be more energetic, which Carrick wasn't. Carrick would've made the team SO much better.
dude the fact that scholes was played on the left wing to accommodate them two should be ample reason as to why a player like carrick was always overlooked for england.
Absolutely one of my favorite ManUnited players, a wonderful player with a game understanding of genius.
So much love for this man, a player I loved watching right from the start of his United career. It's a shame England didn't use him when they clearly needed balance in their line up during his United days. Their loss was our gain and United fans know how good he was and his importance to the trophies we won with him.
Great video detailing his genius, succinct with bang on analysis. Frustrates me how people can't appreciate what players do in these number 6 roles. His all-round ability is something that we lack now, I am going to miss watching this man play and my only regret is not being able to see him play at Old Trafford ❤
Indeed Carrick was special and a top class player especially when you see all his complete passes and diagonal crosses on the pitch with high mentality and vision with or without the ball all the time.
If you know football well you will appreciate this genius.
His positioning and passing were just perfect
It took me a while to truly understand the little things he did (like pressing a space) that led to him or his teammate winning the ball back. It's the latter that would most often be overlooked. It's easy to look at flashy players who score goals or make assists. Who doesn't love that. Carrick was a type of player that when I understood what he did, he made me appreciate football more, if that makes sense.
He was a wonderful player. Watching him live each week was the best way to see just how good he was. And then look at the difference when he didn't play.
Today will be the first time in 15 years we take the field without him. Absolute legend of a player. He understood and impressed himself on the game in a way that is difficult to describe to incredibly easy to see.
The last great regista!
Those who understand footbal knows Carrick was a gem❤️. Loves how he controlled the tempo of the game. Clearly a player that needs to be in the team.
True Utd fans know how important and amazing player Carrick was. he was literally the spine of Man Utd midfield, defence and attacking play. He was also the missing piece of the puzzle for England, but was overlooked because England Managers were obsessed with Gerrard and Lampard even though that didn't work - Carrick would have bought balance with Gerrard or Lampard driving forward (with one on the bench). Or, Lampard and Carrick in central midfield with Gerrard playing left wing (same could have been said and play Scholes with Lampard in central and Gerrard Left wing, not Scholes!)..
Man that was an awesome video bro!!!! Love it. Love how you broke things down. So insightful. ⚽️👊🏽🙏🏽
Really like this strand. Carrick was always sheer class but not really acknowledged as such by 'the pundits'. His pass selection and execution was a thing of football beauty
I can say that at least manchester united fans appreciated carrick. I always thought of him as the guy that wasn't "special" talent wise but you could be assured that he will lock down your half so you can freely attack on the other. I was in grade school around the time carrick was playing but even then I was able to appreciate the way he played. He completely contrasted the intensity/physicality the league had at the time with his smoothness on the ball
Carrick was ahead of his time playing in England. At that time, he would get into most big European clubs in my opinion as they had more fluid formations and knew how to employ the Regista in their squads whilst England were stuck with flat 4-4-2 formations which translated into the national team. He may have got some more recognition if he were a free kick taker/penalty taker. I'd love to see a video like this to Frank Lampard. I always felt that Lampard offered less to the balance of the national team at that time compared to Carrick.
Great vid. I needed that...
thanks for making this! one of my favourite players ever!
keep up the good work man! love the videos ❤️
Will do! Cheers!
Jamaican here. I love your channel. Keep dropping them gems.
Thanks, brother. Will do!
Wow I got a like and a response 😭. Since since we’re here may as well I shoot. Could you cover Jamaica’s maiden voyage to the 98 World Cup as well as the players that are of Jamaican heritage that now represents England please 🥺
What a fantastic video. Really well researched and you presented your arguments excellently. I have subscribed as a result.
Thanks for making this video
I commented about this couple weeks back
Love your content
His passing is the thing that is most underrated about him, Its actually incredible.
Loved Carrick his ball keeping and passing was simple but worked he was a very very good player England didn't use him well if Guardiola had him now he would have loved him
Idolized him growing up in India. Wore the number 16 jersey all my life because I loved what he did on the pitch and played in the middle.
Very good video. Well presented and thoughtout. Well done 👍
Just one thing: to be a deep-lying mid in the fastest pace league itself is an achievement, and to be a good one for the best team? He's exactly what every team needs.
This present ManU team is not Ralf Rangnick's team, it is Ole and Michael Carrick's team.Ralf had the answer to ManU's immidiate problem. But he is now floundering and the team is now losing steam.Players are deciding to leave.Ralf does not have any trophy winning vision for this team. But Ole and Carrick had, just that Ole made some bad missteps. However Carrick started to carry the team there.BRING HIM BACK! GIVE HIM AND THIS TEAM A CHANCE TO GO FOR THE PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE THIS YEAR.ManU has a wonderful team that needs someone to engineer them to victory.Carrick might be that man.What do we have to lose?
Carrick had an ability uncommon in British players, he understood the tempo of the game and this combined with his good vision and pure clean striking of the ball meant he could find a safe pass or a penetrative killer ball at the right moment. Unlucky he came prominence amongst a so called "golden generation" of English midfielders and a preference for shoehorning star players into the first eleven by England managers at the time.
I love this video. Your content and the way you've presented it is fantastic. But most of all, thank you for putting some respect on the name of one of my favourite and without question the most underrated english midfielder in history.
Awesome video I always appreciate these being younger it i can’t exactly go and watch the matches just couldn’t have seen and you do what I can assume to be a wonderfully unbiased and thorough job telling their story thank you very much
Farewell Carrick👋,forever united legend👏!!!
We at Manchester United knows that he’s one of our own… our Legend ❤️
Great content as always
When Carrick first signed for United from Spurs I didn't rate him, when he left I wondered how we would ever replace him. Carrick is probably the most underrated United player of the last 20 years.
375 views? the view itself says it all he's underrated
42k views now 😋
finally, someone is trying to rate carrick.
He will always be my fav deep lying midfielder
PS: Just subscribed to this channel cuz its underrated like carrick
You are doing great work.. probably greatest work for football after playing itself. Historical.
I still have arguments about this guy to this day.
A rolls Royce in an era of the rover 200
You're so good man, the music, the voice, the content explanation is top notch 🔥
Another great video brother.
Congratulations on 10k,you’ve deserved it !👏keep the great vids coming
Thanks! Really appreciate it all. Very keen to keep making more videos!
Ye him n pythagoras in boots are better than nouman imo
We(Man utd fans) will always appreciate him
Now Ward prowse is another underrated midfielder for this era.
Football Iconic, an underappreciated channel.
Also a video on Jaap Stam would be awesome
Brilliant video!
Sooo underrated
As a teenager, Carrick was one of our more boring, generic players.
As an adult, understanding football far more, he was world class. You see McFred on a weekly basis and you learn to appreciate how good Carrick was at the very basics.
Watching Rashford shows me how good Nani actually was.
Watching Maguire, I realise how good Wes Brown was.
Point is, United oozed world class players then, so world class was just the expected norm. You only stood out at United for being 'bad', and even then that was the likes of Kleberson, who started a World Cup Final....
Now United aren't at that level, and we have to suffer mediocrity, you appreciate these players more.
I mean, Jesus Christ, I thought Anderson was useless, and that dude would walk into the current team and put Pogba to shame.
Plus, English fans don't historically respect the regista. Which is why Gerrard is more appreciated than Scholes among English fans, despite 99% of foreign coaches and players citing Scholes as our best player during that period.
I am glad you mentioned Anderson too. He keeps getting slagged but still like you said, he would bench the current midfielders. And that’s a player man utd signed from Porto as a support striker
As a Spurs supporter, I was so sorry to see him go, but i love the fact that he did what he did for United; much underrated player for club and for country!
Your narration is awesome mate ✌️
One thing this video didn't mention was that Carrick was signed at the same time as Owen Hargreaves.
I always assumed that Fergie meant them to play together with Hargreaves being the hardworking, aggressive, ball winner and Carrick being there to provide vision and passing ability. Sadly Hargreaves injury problems meant this never really happened, but it's interesting to wonder whether Carrick's role would have been slightly different if this had panned out.
Good point!
No carrick joined way earlier than Owen.
The one player that United actually missed. The missing key to another great era.
When I was younger I didn't understand how good he was; as you mentioned you just notice the flashy players. But as a midfielder now who's learned (and still learning) the game, I really appreciate how good him and his passing were.
my favorite united player, i watch united since 2007 but started watching it almost every week in 2009 and when carrick play, he always give stability in man united midfield that's why this guy is my favorite player
England could have made it much further in tournaments, if they would have used him an Scholes more.
Absolutely incredible player, and probably only truly appreciated by people who really "watch" football matches
can't wait for your video about veron :)
An absolute Rolls Royce player. Only those who have played at a decent level understand what a class act he was. No fuss or frills just excellent passing vision and reading of the game. Top top player.
this video makes me emotional about carrick, wanna cry
To be honest, when he was in his pomp, I was too young to understand the more complex aspect of the game. I didn't rate him at all. It's only now I realise what a player he was