Is Wayne Rooney The Most Underrated Player Of All Time? [How GOOD Was He Actually?]
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Wayne Rooney is undoubtedly one of the greatest English players to grace the footballing world. Ever since bursting onto the scene at 16 years old, he went on to capture just about every trophy at club level.
Despite this, there are a few that remain unconvinced, to this day. Therefore, the question is the following: Is Rooney underrated?
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0:00 - Introduction
01:58 - Early life and career
05:35 - Wazza vs Gazza
07:03 - Wayne Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo
12:19 - Wayne Rooney vs Manchester United
14:18 - Wayne Rooney vs decline
15:14 - Is Wayne Rooney underrated?
18:14 - Closing thoughts
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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Rooney is not underrated he's underappreciated.
Agreed. Although unfortunately those two things often go hand in hand.
If only he was not English, he would be built a statue at any other countries
He is overrated af.
@@thangchano If he wasnt English no one would even remember him anymore.
Never Even hit 30 goals. Only twice More than 20. Thats obsolutely terrible for for what he is built up to be. If he wasnt a drunkard and would have concentrated on football he could have realised his potential.
@@tottereff8615 is that why he is Man United and England’s top scorer?
I would do anything to have a 20 year old Rooney at United now, he could do almost everything.
Angry Rooney was best Rooney
WAZZA WAS THE GREATEST!!!!
A 30 y/o would do as well ,in midfield
@@bhavishshah2415 Even now he could play better than McFred
@@udbhav5911 exactly he has the workrate and the passing ,and can pin anyone down if the opposition counters 😂
Wayne played the game like any kid in their local park dreams of doing some day......lashing it in from all angles, putting himself about, hassling and harrying the opposition, spitting and swearing as he got more and more worked up, telepathic passes all over the pitch...
He was a joy to watch because he embodied the raw passion and spirit that everyone who loves the game feels in their heart.......that's why he'll always be a legend.
Rooney had raw talent, was scoring screamers in the premier League at 16 hatrick in his champions league debut at 18 Messi and Ronaldo peaked later and train like athletes to stay at the top level Rooney was just naturally world class at 16
@AlexandriaOccasional-Cortex Go back to the kitchen cus football ain't for you 😁
@@AlexandriaOccasional-Cortex where are they now and ROnaldinho was literal Bum-Ass if those are your stats for a good player
@@AlexandriaOccasional-Cortex I didn't mention, even he himself has acknowledged they were leagues above him albeit he prefers Messi, I mentioned Ronaldinho, you called him, you a Bullshitter
@@AlexandriaOccasional-Cortexrelax you’re not the authority on these things considering you’ve never done shit
"However, Ronaldo came back different."
That line gave me nostalgic chills because I remember that level-up vividly.
I am a more casual viewer & yet I still remember that legendary lineup. That was the best squad MU ever had. Now, it's the shittiest squad now if Ronaldo is removed.
@@senor2930 It was a great lineup, fo sho. Honestly, I think the late 90's may have been ManU's best years. Peter Schmeichel is a legend, and he led the boys to glory.
@@seanticleer4915 Schmeichel wasnt clearly better than van der Sar (either on par or slightly better). Man U 2008 were slightly better in defense (Vidic equal to Stam but Ferdinand better than Johnsen, though arguably Irwin was better than Evra though). In central midfield I prefer Keano and Scholes. On the wing its clearly 2008 with Ronaldo alongside a wooden stick better than Beckham and Giggs together. Up front 2008 had better starters in Rooney and Tevez but 99 had more depth.
I feel Rooney hurt himself in a number of ways. A genius natural footballer who didn't ever feel the need to go 'crazy' conditioning himself as he got older (I suspect which led Ferguson to 'utilise' his ability, rather than build a team around him ultimately). Never setting international tournaments on fire is also the other knock which led to a perception of fan disappointment (given his astronomical wages). I think that also produced a lot of envy / annoyance among the average fan - seeing him as a great footballing yob who doesn't deliver at the very highest levels. Best compliment I can give him is he was a complete football talent - however high you do or don't rate him. x
@@beejj6190U made some sense,but until he busted his foot at age 18 he was the best player in the early Rnds of the 2004 European Championships..Remember how he took France apart,but David Beckham missed the Penalty!
The British media tried to kill Rooney's footballing legacy. I watched nearly every game he ever played it (or at least highlights) and even on a bad day he was one of the best players on the pitch. A perfect all-round footballer who, contrary to common belief, didn't peak young and drop off. He was excellent throughout his whole career and changed his style to accommodate other players, appearing less flash in the process.
This 100% has a lot to do with the fact he's working class and the British media loves to bring people up and see them crash down. Didn't work on Wazza
Showed how so mentally strong he is the fact he doesn’t look affected on what the media is saying. I can only hope Greenwood will get through this strongly as well as he’s been the media’s new target after the Iceland incident
Watching full games live is completely different to highlights. Christ what a stupid comment that bit was.
Well said !! 👍
@@sphendoozy6938 why British media hate rooney?
He was a DIVER and CHEAT
Park Ji Sung is underrated, Rooney is under appreciated
Park was not underrated everyone says he's underrated so he's not
@@arsenalfan9213 yh he was
I genuinely don't know the difference
He’s overrated in south Korea
I've never heard of him so is he really that good?
Dude I am a fan of United and I grow watching Rooney play for United. Even when CR was there I still support Rooney. That guy is a Legend in my life
Obviously I'd like to think you'd support the whole team if you were a united fan!
Yeah me too.....😁 I was glad when CR7 go to madrid, not Rooney.....
He is both underrated and underappreciated. One of the greatest footballer to ever play the game
I've never seen anyone kick the ball so hard for the goal. It takes such confidence to hammer the ball into the net so accurately with so much force behind it. Electric.
Who didn't rate him highly when he played?
@@tottereff8615 Did you watch this video?
@@tottereff8615yeah ur Rooney disrespect is crazy lol Sure he didn’t put up crazy numbers as a number 9 , but was a brilliant 10 and like FI said it’s not all about numbers. He did whatever the club needed and he and the team won a crapton with him as a legit weapon and having a big impact. Im not English btw but he deserves his flowers
@@tottereff8615separate note: how do you rate Gareth bale rm career? I feel like their might be parallels where Rooney and bale are underrated and underapreciated
he was a team player and no stats will ever show how hard he worked for the team!!!
There probably are stats that can show that
No amount of playing for The team replaces goals. Thats what was his Job and he was average at it
@@tottereff8615 average? He was a second striker like bruno, muller today and rooney is the fucking all time top scorer of man utd and england!!! You are just a hater.
@@PA.69 Cause he wasnt good enough of a goal scorer to play as a number 9.
I dont hate Rooney. Just brainless fan boys like you who dont understand anything about football just blindly follow media hype and pundits like Rio and Neville who know nothing.
@@tottereff8615 cry loser
As a United fan, it’s annoying arguing with people who think Wazza was anything but underrated. His versatility and accomplishments say it all
He’s the greatest English player of all time yet people will argue all sorts just because he played for Manchester United
@@jhj2386 They also speak of him with comparisons to Ronaldo and Messi and say he didn't reach that level... What? They can only bring up two of the GOATs to belittle him because he was world class wherever you put him on the pitch lol
@JHJ23 i think he is on the same level as ronaldo but English players dont get ballondores and he is more of a team player messi does the exactly the same thing to get a higher contract
@@jaydeepbrar true, and Ronaldo and Messi had teams built around them while Rooney is only a part of Sir Alex’s system
@@jhj2386 yeah - all those World Cup goals backs up your comment! Oh, oops.
Loved Wayne Rooney's time at DC United. I wish we had been able to keep him a couple more years. I was never so glad to be so wrong about a player. He played with enormous heart and guts for us.
Not even trying to be rude but I have no idea how you could think Rooney would be a bad signing
@@soapboxx9664 when you are a fan of MLS since its inception, you will have seen a number of players from overseas come and just get paid highly while greatly underperforming. For a long time, English players and the like just thought of MLS as a retirement league. So, you become jaded and assume that any player, no matter how great they used to be, is just coming to get a huge paycheck and ride off into the sunset. As I said, very happy to have been so wrong about Rooney.
@@202ultra rooney also gives his best for teams he played that's the best thing about him
@@202ultra “just thought…” it is though. It is the place European superstars can get a last paycheque. 🤷♂️
@@maeglin9252 definitely used to be. They European superstars tend to go to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and China now for that last paycheck. MLS these years is trending towards buying younger designated players these days to build their team around. But I'm sure that stigma for MLS won't be shaken off for another decade or more so I don't fault you for thinking of it that way.
My favourite thing with Rooney was that he always gave 100% and tried in every game, even when he was not playing well. I have never seen any other player show the level of commitment and energy in every game they played in.
Imagine how much more he could've scored if he played striker his entire career
Indeed and as an excellent DIVER and CHEAT he would have scored more!
@@alphillips5478 yet here you are watching a video on him and replying to my 1 month old comment
@@tree82 we ur wrong actually
@@alphillips5478 Just because you have fingers,you can't type anything....
@@udbhav5911 Rooney SUKS and so do you
No manager in the world will ever reject Wayne Rooney.
Preach
Most top teams definitely would.
@@tottereff8615 🔔🔚 alert
@@tottereff8615 haters alert
@@tottereff8615 you must be the type of person the media brainwashes easily 😂😂
For me he is the best player ever. May be because I loved his playing style..He was always running everywhere in the field and scoring, creating chances , defending...
He was THE COMPLETE PLAYER..
True that's why when I saw prime rooney and messi bursted in the scene. I always thought if rooney plays like that only he can compete with messi. But ronaldo moved to madrid and worked harder to compete. And rooney dipped unfortunately. If he had maintained that level throughout his career hed be one of the goats.
@@mtk3755 Maradona was better or at the very least just as good as Rooney. Nobody gets close to those 2. Messi is highly overrated
@@starc. Let me tell you mate Maradona is streets and streets above Rooney.Its embarrassing to put the 2 in the same sentence.
@@paulmichaelrichardson6582 Roo was better than Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi I don't know how much better Maradona is than Rooney but he was better yes. It doesn't make sense to say its embarrassing to put Zidane or Cryuff or Messi in the same sentence as Maradona. Phil Jones or Harold Maguire yes.
@@starc. Roo was better than Ronaldo and Messi lol you are hilarious.
Rooney was the man along with dinho, ronaldo, messi for me growing up. Unique in his own way. Thank you Rooney.!
When Rooney said the board lacked ambition he was totally right, and we’ve seen it for the last 10ish years. SAF won titles under the glazer’s ownership because he is a wizard. Rooney was a brilliant brilliant player and the criticism I feel I have over his career is that he underperformed for England, but you could argue that gerrard, lampard etc did as well. Rooney is forever a legend of the game and without a doubt a premier league great
As a Liverpool fan, I'm being really unbiased here by saying that Rooney is one of Englands best players of our generation. Although I don't much like the teams he played for, watching him play was so so good!
You don’t have to say you don’t like Man Utd. We know you don’t like us. We also don’t like your team too.
What do you have against D.C. United?
Wythenshawe fc, no fkn round
I'm a united fan and I feel the same about Stevie G
@@bubuumanasye2080 oh ...we do have to say it lool. YNWA
Seriously though he was just outlining his leaning in the opposite direction, to add weight to his point
Rooney is actually one of my favourite players when I was growing up. He was one of our best players and deserves appreciation
Underrated and Underappreciated by those outside of Manchester United. A bulldog on the field, who regularly sacrificed for the betterment of the Team. Top Class finisher and underrated playmaker.
He had the physique of a man when he was 15.
Crazy stuff. I guess good genes and boxing does that to you!
@@FootballIconic lots of stocky built players seem to peak early and decline early also. Rooney, Gazza, R9 and Adriano spring to mind
@@Silphwave good point. Although all for different reasons though. Adriano's decline in particular, didn't have anything to do with his build though
@@FootballIconic true yeah, his fathers death seems to be the catalyst unfortunately. Explosive players with explosive personalities. Blessing we got to see them at all.
Love your channel and chilled delivery style 🙌 Learned a lot, thanks man 🙏
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As a Liverpool fan, I like Rooney a lot more now that he's gone. He was relentless, and definitely a player the opposition hated to face.
Rooney was massively important for us every single season he was playing. I remember a season toward the end of his career when people were saying "he's getting old, sell him" but he was the only reason we were in the top half of the table, his assists and goals.
It's absolutely right in this video about Rooney + Ronaldo + Tevez... I have not seen a better combination of players in my lifetime watching football.
As a Canadian i was aloof to football until catching a Messi highlight reel. Now i’m addicted to soccer and am grateful for the education on this man that I thought was merely a plug. From my eye, if you had a hockey player like this on your team you count your blessings. Seems like an all rounder. thanks for the insight!
Funny you say that, I always saw Rooney as a guy who played with the heart and grit of a hockey player. Loved it.
@@thespeculum785 Rooney is my guy!! ⚽️🏒🥅
Yes! Rooney's selflessness and class are the reasons I started loving football as a kid
I didn't mention it in the video, but same here!
He is the reason I'm a United fan 😍
He is the all time leading goalscorer of the most successful club in english football. That fact alone should put him in the conversation for best ever player in English football, everytime.
Sorry to tell you this, but in terms of 'major' trophies Man Utd are no longer the most successful club in English football.
@@jaysmith2858 By what measure? Liverpool are the only club there is even an argument for, but only if you count titles from the 18/1900's. Doing so puts them ahead by 1 title if you only include PL and CL, so not really a very compelling argument given it rests on 100 year old records. Man U easily then best Prem team from the modern era
I'm a Utd fan and i would dispute that... Rooney would definitely make the top 20 players and top 5 attackers, but his goal ratio is inferior to quite a few players at Utd and England over the same time period... but he has played for a long time. If Van Nistelroy, Ronaldo, Tevez or Van Persie had played 10 seasons then that record would have been taken by them - would that make them the best ever? Rooney would sit behind Giggs, Keane, Scholes, Schmiechel Stam and Cantona for every Utd fan in terms of the PL era and is probably behind Ronaldo, Van Nistelroy, Ferdinand, Vidic, Irwin, Evra and Carrick for quite a few other fans. This is not to say that Rooney was not a great player - he was, but for Utd all these players could be argued as just as great, if not greater. For England he got to 3 quarters but got injured in 04, sent off in 06 and rushed back from injury in 10 - no better than Beckham in that respect. Gascoigne played in 2 tournaments and we got to the semis in both... and both those teams in 90 and 96 were not of the calibre of the 04-10 group
@@Jacob-kf8oh Manchester United - 42 trophies - League x20, FA Cup x12, League Cup x5, European Cup x3, Cup Winners’ Cup x1, UEFA Cup/Europa League x1.
Liverpool - 43 trophies - League x19, League Cup x8, FA Cup x7, European Cup x6, UEFA Cup/Europa League x3.
@@jaysmith2858 Liverpool has 20 PL if you include the fucking 1800's😂. Otherwise it's a much smaller number
I love how well researched the content on this channel is. 🙌🏼👏🏼
Wayne Rooney is my United's best player of all times, he's work pace on the pitch was so unmatched, he made tremendous assists for Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov, Chicharito, & Van Persie.
A very underrated and under appreciated
He was the perfect team mate. He elevated everyone else’s game. The only reason he underperformed with England was because he was misused.
he was not alone in that - typical FA... finally accept we are neanderthals and get a foreign coach - who is a strict advocate of 4-4-2! At least Rooney was misused on the pitch... Carrick never got that far and Scholes almost never played in his correct position. Ho hum...
@@CarlinConnolly England had the perfect team for the 4-3-3 or 4-4-1-1/4-5-1 systems. They should've brought in Harry Redknapp straight after the FA Cup with Portsmouth! The misusage of Carrick was even worse, because at least Rooney played.
@@nintendogamer4703 Harry was a Tax cheat, remember. He couldn’t do the England job.
@@miamitten1123 oh damn, did not know that. Makes sense now, as he was the perfect candidate for the job. Moral of the story, fuck taxes
It took him a few games to get sharp after injuries so never suited Summer tournaments although I agree with Englands mismanagement during his time
One of the English GOATS ! People forget just how good he was, he was playing with an bullying men as a kid. Awesome player. ✌️🇬🇧
DIVER and CHEAT
Rooney is the English goat. No question about it
Excellent videos. Well researched and entertaining.
Great videos dude
The stats are there to be seen. He had, power, pace, aggression and technical ability. Rooney in his prime could of walk into any starting line up in Europe, most English players can't do that. Legend indeed.
He was a DIVER and a cheat
Rooney hit the 20 Pl goal mark twice in 15 seasons.. no one want to talk about that , Henry on the other hand did it 5 times in 8 season...
@@Olori-Ogun rooney played way more roles in the team. He was not just there to score goals.
He wasn't underrated at the time he was playing. He's underrated now he's retired.
I think the physical decline that was mentioned, and was very noticeable, caused people to forget just how good he was. If you look at the overall picture, he was one of the greats. (There was one season where there was serious talk for a while that he may have been the best in the world.)
But to be fair, when his physical declined, he made it up with football intelect. He was deployed as CM and in some games under LVG as CDM. He is so versatile it's not even funny. Him being in CM is still one of the best passers in the world. United however, declined far worse than him. As it went on til now
Superb video!!!
I think he's underrated and underappreciated. Calling him those things do not mean he's more or less underrated than any other player, just that he is indeed underrated. I think this is even more noticeable when you see that bit from The Kickoff where one of the talking heads, Lawrence goes on a rant about Rooney. I think it's 100% true that when people talk about the best forwards Rooney never really a thought, even when just naming a few not best all time conversations.
As for him underperforming for England, well it can be said England as a whole has underperformed. They often have some of the best talent in world football, but all they have to show for it is a World Cup win in 1966, hell they've never finished better than third in UEFA Euro Championship. England as a whole doesn't perform, so an individual player won't really have much success either.
When it comes to his rapid decline, a good comparison sports wise would be an NFL running back. If you run a running back into the ground, they will have shorter careers. Usage matters. Plus Wayne career ended right when players started spending their own money to take care of their bodies during the offseason. Again using the NFL as an example, players like Russell Wilson and Tom Brady spend $1 million a year on their body. Rooney played a lot, got hurt a lot, and there was no investment in recovery like there is nowadays.
Top comment! Hit the nail on the head especially regarding taking care of your body and being overused at a young age
The Wayne Rooney of 09/10 (until Bayern deliberately injured him) is the closest a player has been to Messi in my time of watching football. The man was untouchable at the time with his raw strength, pace, finishing, dribbling and even heading ability. Grew into such a fine passer in his later days as well. Will not be mentioned alongside CR7 and Ronaldo, but I’ll always have him up there as one of my all-time favourite players.
So true man, that's why I always counted on him that only player to compete with messi was rooney. He just had to focus more on fitness and conditioning, maintaining consistency, ambition to be the best and move to la liga. If he had done that rooney messi rivalry would have been something else. Rooney could have been a goat in my opinion. Still a legend but could have achieved so much more. Ronaldo had that ambition and he later moved to madrid to be the best.
What a wonderful video. The best I have watched on Rooney.
CR7 would be nothing without Rooney at ManU , his passing and unselfishness was insane
Imagine comparing CR7 to Rooney Rooney is nowhere near his level never was
Hes still my favorite player. I know he might have come up short in some peoples eyes. But idk y. A pissed off Mr. Rooney running people or the ball down always made me smile. I been with United since 1997. And Mr. Rooney's overall game is what i loved. Nothing he could or wudnt do. And i always felt if you crossed him, he wud give u a good slap. Yea sometimes he had an attitude. But it made him more real to me. Like he honestly didnt give a damn wat anyone thought. And didnt like the same old boring answers everyone else gave to every repetitive question. I just feel like more than any other player I seen. After the game. I could be in the back of some restaurant having some alcohol and a cigarette with Mr. Rooney. Yea maybe he shuda trained more. But you got 1 life. And i feel he balanced success and joy in life. And again i respect that he really didnt give a dam what others thought. They dont make em like that. Clearly England's most talented guy i ever seen. And played nothing like a english. Thats for sure. Ohh and he did sacrifice in recognition that it was best for the team. And clearly Ronaldo was better. To do that. In ur own country. Wen u the chosen one. That i respect. Mr. Rooney was a real man. Cause players today given those circumstances...me move to other position. Im Englands biggest thing. Dont you know. Im fucking Wayne Rooney. Yea no. He moved. That shows respect for his team and the game. He was more mature then people think. Mr. Rooney was a real man about shit.
Great comment. I used to love that about Rooney, guy played on the edge and always looked like he was gonna get sent off. Plus he had that genius in him that like that Newcastle goal that I’ll never forget.
Getting involved with the gutter press killed Rooney, like it did with becks who I remember as a kid was at one point more rated than Giggs.
Honestly season after Ronaldo left Rooney played disgusting football, he was trying mad chips from 20yards and smashing crossbars for fun, but for whatever reason I just stopped loving the way he played the game. Toward the end it was headers and penalties and the magic seemed to go. Honestly know it sounds mad but it’s why I don’t rate cr7 on the level of R9. I loved united cr7 but his game just didn’t excite me after he left united, I mean don’t get me wrong he’s an animal and I got nothing but respect for him but I don’t love him like I would have if he played the game the way he used to. Sometimes players make sacrifices to win and they get the money and the trophies but lose the love.
On the end I rate Rooney and double rate CR7 but I loved Ronaldinho and Zidane.
Am I talking shit or just getting old?
very satisfying comment indeed, truly, i agree with mr charles. if I can speak for myself, for me mr. wayne rooney isn't an under rated legend at all, for me he is the legend, amongst many for me again. amongst many and yet he still holds his own, doesn't he. thank you wayne rooney for all those GLORIOUS united memories.
skinhead rooney the best rooney
Favourite 🧐
Roy Keane and Michael carrick are the most underrated united players imo
And ji sung park
Don't forget ji sung park and Paul Scholes
@@Adamhuge7 Paul scholes underrated?
@@karindra3849 Yh some people don't understand how good he was
Silvestre was underrated
Nice video! Rooney forever 🙌🏽
Love your videos, keep up the amazing work
Wazza was just Unbelievable.. And United haven't managed to replace Him STILL..!!
Please make video on Santi Cazorla as well.. His story is Inspiring 🔥
Santi Cazorla, yes do that!
@VSJ 1987 Whatever makes you feel happy bro.. ✌️
Considering the great quality of these videos, the frequency they come out at is so impressive. Thanks for the awesome and regular content :D
Wow, thanks so much man. Really appreciate it. Really enjoying making these!
Great vid
Great video bro. All the very best to you
Incredibly grateful to have been able to watch most of Rooney's career for United. He was literally Man United's engine running tirelessly throughout the game. Unmatchable tenacity and agression is what set him apart. These things unfortunately cannot be measured in stats or titles. Simply Irreplaceable.❤️ A United Icon.
Born to play football. The most naturally talented and most complete football player England has ever produced. Could play anywhere I bet he was even good in goal. Pace power skill to burn touch and technique to match anyone. His understanding of the game even at Everton as a teenager were on parr with Scholes Perlo and the likes. A proper players player those who played football at any decent level and especially those that played with or against him will never under rate just what a truly special player he was. Once in a generation pure class.
this channel is so great and im so glad i found it, this is proper sport journalism level content. thank u!
Love your videos man! keep it up please sir!
top content!!! you should do one for berbatov he was hugely underated
Rooney is underappreciated because United was full of legends at that time. It is now that we realise how good he was. Remember three lungs Park? He's underrated for sure
Excellent video
you should have so many more followers, your videos are incredible. thanks for the work 👏🏻
Yet another great video! Kinda sad I never got to see Rooney in his prime
He was a different kind of beast. Strong in almost every aspect of the game. Thanks for the support, man!
@@FootballIconic couldn't dribble , was never top scorer in the league, scored over 20 league goals twice in 15 seasons, ...infact I can name 20 attackers better than him
@@Olori-Ogun Wayne is one of the best forwards of his generation in his prime, and I'm saying this not as a United fan
Generally when people are physically mature at a young age they seldom can sustain it approaching there 30 .
For me Roony is a legend. His number of goals and assists was massive and some of the assets were sublime.
Very true 🙏
Great quality of video, fairplay. ✌🏻
Damn respect This is prolly the best Analysis of a Player ive ever seen on yt . Not only considering the Player itselfe but also the Team and what He was used for.
Good work buddy👍
every premier league fans know how dangerous and versatile Rooney is, one hell of a player
definitely one of the greats
I don't think he's underrated
Rooney is the most complete footballer I've seen in my lifetime. That's my opinion.
the whole 8 yrs damn
I would have to agree, but does Zlatan?
He was a DIVER and CHEAT. Better than messi? Ronaldo??
@@alphillips5478 salty liverpool fan spotted. Also he never said he was better than them
I feel you in some ways. For me it’s Lothar Mattius. If that guy was right back he’s better than lahm, as a DM he’s better than pretty much anyone, in centre mid or AM he’s Gerrard on steroids, if he was a winger he would have been as good as Giggs. Guy was a freak.
But Rooney was really talented and could play the game properly. Certainly the most diverse English player I can think of.
Great video
Awesome video imo. I really like the your style of analyzing seems very fair.
Under appreciated in my opinion as the saying goes it wasn’t the years but the mileage that finished him off early, such a hard working player willing to move positions to accommodate others and still perform
DIVER and CHEAT 👎
@@alphillips5478 stupid comment
@@alphillips5478 He was never a diver and a cheat - that's absurd.
Believe it or not 07-09 Rooney was my Truest introduction to football.. SUPER underrated. ABSOLUTE Legend.
Your channel is the most underrated one!
Peaked way, way too early. Unless you were a United fan watching him week in week out, it would be difficult to understand his rapid decline. About the last third of his career was basically spent plodding around in midfield passing sideways. Often, when given the opportunity to play as a sole striker, he just didn't have the pace or agility.
Also, his choice to hold the club to ransom *twice* to try and get a better contract didn't help his cause, and I like many others never felt the same way about him after.
A few other points I would add however:
- Yes he underperformed at an international level (Euro '04 aside), but then so did the rest of the so-called Golden Generation. All immensely talented, but played under the wrong managers and weren't compatible. They all, also, contributed to their own negative public image with their lifestyles (and the WAGs) during the tournaments.
- His lack of self-discipline when it came to physical conditioning was evident. CR7 was the same age, but the differences in attitude towards health and fitness are mind boggling.
- He was naturally gifted and genuinely had a 'footballing brain', which I don't believe can be taught. When a player possesses this, they instinctively read the game and know how to position themselves and how to make decisions. It's rare to see this with English players today.
Do I miss him? Yes, but only at his prime. Combined with Ronaldo, Tevez, Nani and Berbatobv, there were some deadly combinations over the years.
That first time was NOT a ransom
He has point blank said that he was just being a stupid kid that was angry who shouldn't have opened his mouth and he immediately apologized
Second one wasn't holding us hostage either, Rooney said to Fergie that it might be best for him to move on if he was going to continue to get the same playing time(this was already knowing Fergie was retiring), that isn't holding hostage that's voicing your opinion to someone who is basically your mentor.
The ONLY reason ronaldo pulled ahead of him was because ronaldo didn't give a shit at all about the club or the fans he only cared about himself and his stats.
So he went to THE stat padding league to basically ruin the entire point of records with Messi.
You take Rooney and make him get serious about conditioning and then throw him into that same stat farming league and neither messi or ronaldo would EVER have caught up to him especially since a lot of Wayne's injuries were due to how physical the premiership was when he was playing as opposed to it being far lighter in spain.
@@victorkreig6089 I agree to few points but saying ronaldo didn't care for fans is not true. He cared for United but he knew after loss to barca that to be the best he had to go to madrid and compete with messi to be the best and greatest. And I agree that rooney would have been amazing in la liga but he stayed because he cared more for United and didn't have the ambition to be the greatest. That's why when messi bursted in the scene. I knew only one that could compete him would be rooney. He could have even beat messi in some aspects. Tho leo still is something else.
@@mtk3755 he did not care about the fans, he said he was being suffocated in the premier league and that is why he wanted to leave
That is a direct middle finger to the fans
Won the best honors possible and then says he is being suffocated and must leave
He left the PL because he knew that if he stayed he would constantly be competing to play but if he moved to Madrid he would be in every single game
Plain and simple it was for selfish reasons
He comes back to United, has one mediocre season, and then says that the club has no ambition and he wants to leave(months after season is over)? That is insult to the club
If he actually cared about the club or the fans he would have done what a man does and worked hard to try and pull the club back to where it belongs to the best he can.
Instead he cry like little baby and disrespect the new manager and the players
Now other players have come in and done what he wasn't man enough to do
He is a petty child and always will be
This guy made me fall in love with football. I’m so glad I got to witness the majority of his 13 years of greatness at United and his peak. Undoubtedly one of the greatest ever who will always be under-appreciated mainly because he wasn’t a selfish forward (sadly it’s all about scoring individual goals nowadays at the expense of team-play) or a lethal finisher though he made up for the latter with his intelligence, positioning, passing, stamina, work-rate, strength, versatility, consistency and leadership. Unfortunately these qualities by itself rarely gain high recognition and his premature decline in pace obviously didn’t help him at all.
FACTS, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. GREAT VIDEO
Rooney is my fav of all time
absolutely loved the video
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One of the most accurate passers I’ve ever seen. Remember that pass to the van Persie goal? Absolutely inch perfect.
Defended from the front just an awesome player! Real team player in every sense of the word was a special talent that the press destroyed! He was literally a street striker and that aggression was part of his game ❤️mufc
I tip my hat to pretty much all your videos. Real quality, indept knowledge and research! When it comes to United content its like your reading my mind in terms of your opinions 👏
This channel is an underrated legend
In the beginning, as he rose with Everton (and his falling out with Moyes), I feared he was another Gascoigne: sublime talent with a head to over balance it. I think it’s fair to say that he truly came to life under Sir Alex, learning how to temper his natural aggression and play nicely with others. He was a more complete player than Beckham ever was: a hard man, he could tackle, dribble, cross, make short passes and long passes, make useful runs off the ball, and play off others just as well as he played the point man. I would say he is, ultimately, underrated, again because of the comparisons to others. He may never have been quite as pretty to watch as others, but by damn, he was a solid player!
Agree with the overall sentiment of this but don't do Beckham dirty like that
In his early to mid 20s he was genuinely world class. He is underrated/underappreciated for 2 reasons:
1. He never quite lived to the early hype (especiallyfor England), although he certainly got close.
2. He peaked early in his career. His powers were on the wane probably from about 26/27. People tend to remember him and judge him from his later years, basically cos its fresher in the memory.
Great video,, aroma from heaven
Very nice video and I do agree
I don’t think he’s underrated in terms of how people always talk about him but I think he’s underrated when people talk about his goal scoring ability
It’s a real shame though he was practically past his prime by 2013
Because he had no dedication, he didn’t take football as seriously as Ronaldo, if he did Roony could have been the best player in the world
Love ur videos keep up the good work👍
you are cool bro. love your work. new fan won.
Excellent video. I'm no MU fan or CR7 hater, but Rooney was a truly phenomenal player who had the will to succeed but not the ego to demand that he be centre of everything. The fact that he accommodated to so many different roles at club and international level is testimony to his talent and commitment, but it doesn't help his stats or comparisons w out and out strikers that had teams built around them. All that talk about Rooney's decline misses out how long we was as the top, and from how young: how many of us wouldn't give everything for a player that hit those heights for that long? Anyway, thoughtful vid and worth a subscribe! cheers!
Iconic, I've always seen Rooney as one of those players who everyone looks at and thinks "nah, they're just okay" until the stats are pulled out. You know the types, the strikers who pull out a 1 in 3 consistent record but go in massive streaks. Or the winger who is the head-down, speed demon yet pulls in solid assist/goals/regain possession stats. The players with good, solid careers and yet never really had it in them to go that extra step to top tier. A Nicky Butt to Roy Keane, an Ole Solskjaer to a Shearer. Yet Rooney HAD that ability to step up and challenge Messi/Ronaldo as the best in the world. It was his natural talent that took that okay/good stats to the record breaker he became. But he never touched what he could have.
It might sound greedy, but I honestly don't think he reached the heights he should have with his talents. He became one of those mid-table forwards who are club legends but was able to coast on a GOAT natural talent pool to have one of those careers at United. To use a wonky example - It's as though United bought OG Ronaldo come again, but he turned into Rudd van Nistelrooy. Now, there's _nothing_ wrong with having a Ruud van Nistelrooy as the finished product, but he sure as shit ain't the Ronaldo level icon his talents would have let him become if he had worked at it.
The front 3 of Rooney-Tevez-Ronaldo were unbelievable.
You have no idea how i wish i could like this video a 1000 times myself...this needed to be said, this man took some unnecessary stick for being selfless
Thanks for all d memories Wayne ....I was in old Trafford for d bicycle kick 🙌🏻🙌🏻😍😍
Carrick video next please but great work as per usual
Thanks man! Got a Carrick video lined up in the future for sure!
@@FootballIconic glad to hear it he’s one of my favourite players the English Pirlo I call him
Hi love the videos can you plz make a video about Johan Cruyff?
Definitely got space on my list for "The father of modern football"!
@@FootballIconic ☺️
Listen as an American Rooney, Messi, and Ronaldo were probably the only “soccer players” I could name growing up. It wasn’t until I worked in London during 2018 that I fell in love with football (still love the American version too). His one bicycle kick made him such a legend here it’s absurd.
Well said.
I love this game and United because of him. Maybe he could achieve more, but it doesn’t matter for me. Anyway he is my favorite player who ever played in United
when he said is something missing, i quietly mouthed Rooney;s hairline. I feel so bad
You really didn't have to do him like that 😂
I’m a dude from West Virginia who started watching the prem, and soccer/football in general, in 2012. Rooney was the player that brought me to the United fans base. Also helped we were televised in the states every week. I never really understood the hate on Rooney. All I know is if it wasn’t for him I may not have began following the sport or the club and seeing him in person playing in the MLS was a moment I’ll never forget.
One of my all time faves no doubt.
The most underrated players from that squad were brown Carrick fletcher and ji, I've added ji & brown because they might not have been superstars but they were so reliable. People seem to have a downer on nani too and he actually had some brilliant seasons
If you want to talk about reliability id take Valencia over nani any day.
Park Ji Sung was x10times the player Wes Brown was
Park ji sung took Messi for a trip
Lets say that
Brown would be too 3 best defenders in the prem if he was playing now. Guy was quality. Like carrack but he only comes unstuck on the European stage, once you start playing against the Pirlo’s, xavi’s and x.alonso’s of this world he isn’t there, although he’s not far away. But compared to the shit we’ve seen last few years in the prem carrick is a God!
Rooney was amazing. He did so much for United, he was such a good player
Hey! I love this video! it honestly made me appreciate Rooney more, keep up the great work (oh also Day 3 of asking for a marco reus video)
Underrated. Deserves more recognition and respect. Absolute legend of the sport
Everyone went after this kid year on year...even his loyalty to United probably hindered his career and the fact they focused the team around CR7 who later upped and left anyway leaving Rooney being more of a utility forward rather then back to a central striker. I think if Rooney had gone abroad to an easier league like the Spanish one he would have kicked on and been a bigger goal machine. Completely underrated by most because of how he was used in the later 3 seasons at United and also underappreciated by media and fans alike for what he gave us! I think his antics away from Football and how he was with the media at times just killed him compared to others who are loved.
I will forever be thankful for the England moments he gave me though and I just wish he was in his prime now and could partner Kane, I think this era would have suited his style a lot more.