Why Minecraft Replaced C418 With Lena Raine...

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • The Musician So Good, She Replaced Minecraft’s C418...
    Lena Raine has managed to replace c418 for Minecraft's Composer slot in just over 5 years. But from barely breaking even to becoming an icon for millions. How she did it will shock you... I Spent about 200 hours creating this video and every element in it so if you could sub or follow elsewhere it would really mean a lot.
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  • @heroslippy6666
    @heroslippy6666 3 місяці тому +2982

    I honestly hold great respect for C418. He missed out on a lot of money in order to keep his rights over the music he makes. That takes a lot of strength to do.

    • @ZarHakkar
      @ZarHakkar 2 місяці тому +50

      Imagine preferring your own integrity over cash in 2024.

    • @user-s4g1qw5d74
      @user-s4g1qw5d74 2 місяці тому +190

      @@ZarHakkar i think people like that are awesome and rad as hell

    • @ros9764
      @ros9764 2 місяці тому +48

      ​@@ZarHakkarhe was already pretty famous and stood on his own feet to make money using music, he doesn't need the approval of a multibillion company

    • @WhatsItsName
      @WhatsItsName 2 місяці тому

      @@ZarHakkar The only people who say stuff like this are people who have no integrity and are some of the most hated people on earth

    • @WeebsArePathetic
      @WeebsArePathetic 2 місяці тому

      @@user-s4g1qw5d74 pretty sure his comment meant that most people these days are awful people who will sell their souls and anyone else's for money.

  • @yunggatsby
    @yunggatsby 3 місяці тому +1086

    c418's music feels eerie but welcoming and familiar, kind of like the way worlds used to look in alpha and beta -- it almost felt as if it were radiating from the land itself.

    • @rafaellynx5332
      @rafaellynx5332 Місяць тому

      Bro I already heard that in a video you did NOT make that up 💀💀💀

    • @setyx.
      @setyx. Місяць тому

      ​@@rafaellynx5332but it's still true

  • @ThatGuyErazo
    @ThatGuyErazo 3 місяці тому +1380

    I feel bad for musicians like C418 and Mick Gordon.

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker 2 місяці тому +14

      Yep

    • @Catmun-ze1wc
      @Catmun-ze1wc 2 місяці тому +9

      @@TachyBunker Hey I know you lol

    • @V1lkas
      @V1lkas 2 місяці тому +5

      or soule

    • @theoneandonlyufomini-bot
      @theoneandonlyufomini-bot 2 місяці тому +17

      @@ThatGuyErazo Mick Gordon especially.

    • @beronberon
      @beronberon 2 місяці тому +29

      yeah mann I love Mick, wish he could have finished his work for Doom Eternal 😔

  • @chararaltacc
    @chararaltacc 3 місяці тому +1030

    Imo, she did not replace C418, just like new Minecraft does not replace old one. She's doing something different, something new, and same goes for new minecraft.

    • @Benm8_
      @Benm8_ 2 місяці тому +4

      Exactly

    • @princeCustos324
      @princeCustos324 2 місяці тому +24

      No she definatly is replacing c418 they legit made it less likely for you to hear c4s music in game in favor of the other songs.

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 2 місяці тому +25

      ​@@princeCustos324 Show me the line of code that proves Minecraft is prioritising non-C418 music.

    • @WeebsArePathetic
      @WeebsArePathetic 2 місяці тому

      Is minecraft actually good now or still boring af where the only appeal is building with friends (since exploration was lackluster af when I played even with mods).

    • @Anon_y_mouse_the_only
      @Anon_y_mouse_the_only 2 місяці тому +13

      @@KabalFromMK9 I dont think thats what they meant, I think they meant that since new Lena-Made tracks play in the same biomes as C418's stuff would, you're less likely to hear C418's stuff since there's more options for Minecraft to choose to play.

  • @sunny__41
    @sunny__41 2 місяці тому +181

    0:03 no its not

    • @PunkNerd
      @PunkNerd 2 місяці тому +14

      I love that 2014 Minecraft experience

  • @superplush9987
    @superplush9987 2 місяці тому +228

    ngl no one can replace c418.

    • @braedynlopez9562
      @braedynlopez9562 2 місяці тому +10

      Truth

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +5

      Exactly

    • @owenisweirdo
      @owenisweirdo 2 місяці тому +5

      But Lena is still very talented, and I probably like the Celeste soundtrack more than C418’s Minecraft soundtrack

    • @superplush9987
      @superplush9987 2 місяці тому +10

      @@owenisweirdo I know she's talented, but there was something about the OG soundtrack that the newer doesn't have (Lena is still talented, tho)

    • @owenisweirdo
      @owenisweirdo 2 місяці тому +2

      @@superplush9987 right, I don’t feel like she can replace the c418 vibes, as much as I like the Celeste soundtrack

  • @Villagerwarrior
    @Villagerwarrior 2 місяці тому +458

    UA-camrs trying to not use clickbaity thumbnail to generate view.
    Challenge: Nearly Impossible 💀💀

    • @mo-s-
      @mo-s- 2 місяці тому +15

      if you don't, that means no views, which means no money
      also no money can mean no food

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +18

      @@mo-s- Then get a real job or make some good content.

    • @zbuilder4664
      @zbuilder4664 2 місяці тому +9

      @@Xominus this is good content tho

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +12

      @@zbuilder4664 Nah

    • @tylercarey2337
      @tylercarey2337 2 місяці тому +5

      This is one of those "blame the game, not the player" situations

  • @lukasfojtik7950
    @lukasfojtik7950 3 місяці тому +1415

    I actually like the new minecraft music! I just wish that mojang wouldn't replace the C418's old music with the new one. The new music is a lot more atmospheric and more fits the newer minecraft at some moments, but the old music should still play as often as it played before. I just hope that the old music will still be relevant while Lena Raine will make music with her own style.

    • @ElGrenier
      @ElGrenier 3 місяці тому +48

      And wow Amazing ! C418's music is still in the game, what a SHOCK !

    • @prismoth
      @prismoth 3 місяці тому +60

      @@lukasfojtik7950 the thing is c418 was never replaced with lena raine's music. it's just played alongside her music

    • @lukasfojtik7950
      @lukasfojtik7950 3 місяці тому +43

      Yes, but from my experience playing (and logically it makes sense, when there is more music to choose from) the music from c418 plays rarely. I would like Minecraft music to play maybe a bit more often, so i would still hear the new music, without sacrificing the old ones

    • @niftylittlename
      @niftylittlename 3 місяці тому +22

      ​​@@lukasfojtik7950in what biome do you live in? In plains, c418 music seems to play 50% of the time from my experience, in forests and caves, more like 1/5 songs.

    • @virsonyx
      @virsonyx 3 місяці тому +9

      Listen to the c418 End and nether music. I feel like that is peak Minecraft ambiance

  • @rowboat10
    @rowboat10 2 місяці тому +778

    Tf is this thumbnail trend

    • @kugelstich8632
      @kugelstich8632 2 місяці тому +56

      It may be cheap, but it is so effective

    • @tumultuousv
      @tumultuousv 2 місяці тому +183

      Effective until I click on the video then click off, making UA-cam think the video has a bad retention

    • @kugelstich8632
      @kugelstich8632 2 місяці тому +5

      @@tumultuousv whoa

    • @ros9764
      @ros9764 2 місяці тому +49

      It's like the person in the thumbnail is dead or something lol

    • @Josuh
      @Josuh 2 місяці тому +26

      @@tumultuousvbased

  • @ElGrenier
    @ElGrenier 3 місяці тому +143

    C418 music was never removed, they are still in the game, you can still hear them alongside Lena's, Kumi and others composers music

    • @Benm8_
      @Benm8_ 2 місяці тому +11

      If they did then they would lose a lot of players and get a lot of hate

    • @IceePlays26
      @IceePlays26 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Benm8_frfr

    • @SomethingN-xd7de
      @SomethingN-xd7de 2 місяці тому +5

      Removing c418s music would be absolutely DETRIMENTAL to the fanbase.

  • @xsl
    @xsl 3 місяці тому +372

    she does good music but nothing will surpass c418

    • @strob5657
      @strob5657 2 місяці тому +24

      Apples and oranges

    • @theoneandonlyufomini-bot
      @theoneandonlyufomini-bot 2 місяці тому +8

      Correct

    • @Malboop
      @Malboop 2 місяці тому +9

      someone had to say it. we all agree no matter what

    • @princeCustos324
      @princeCustos324 2 місяці тому +8

      Yeah her music is great! But it is't minecraft........................It isn't c418.

    • @Roman-R-2009
      @Roman-R-2009 2 місяці тому +3

      well said man, well said...

  • @GoodGamerTM
    @GoodGamerTM 3 місяці тому +259

    Wouldn’t it be sick if when starting a new world, you had the option to pick between classic C418 and a fully revamped soundtrack by Lena.
    Maybe you could also mix and match the tracks?

    • @GoodGamerTM
      @GoodGamerTM 3 місяці тому +6

      Idk I’ve just been playing paper Mario ttyd remake a lot so I think this idea could be cool from the fact that I keep switching soundtracks in that game

    • @corneliusmcmuffin3256
      @corneliusmcmuffin3256 3 місяці тому +19

      Mods help with that. There is one that equalizes the distribution of old tracks with new ones so neither can supersede each-other which I like.

    • @sweetcorm
      @sweetcorm 2 місяці тому

      @@corneliusmcmuffin3256what’s the name of it? I’d like to try it :D

    • @Xx_Tr4nsF3m_xX
      @Xx_Tr4nsF3m_xX 2 місяці тому +2

      spotify my beloved

    • @Fork464
      @Fork464 2 місяці тому +2

      @@corneliusmcmuffin3256 Not everyone has Java or can get mods. The "just get mods" argument doesn't really help.

  • @FossyPickles
    @FossyPickles 2 місяці тому +36

    tl;dr
    C418 wanted to own the rights to his music, but microsoft also wanted to own the rights to his music, therefore nothing worked out

    • @shrivak
      @shrivak 2 місяці тому +1

      Thing is, C418's position is his contract with Mojang was to give him authority over Minecraft Volume 3... and Microsoft wants to scrap the contract for greed purposes.

    • @FossyPickles
      @FossyPickles 2 місяці тому +3

      @@shrivak so, literally what i just said.

  • @ultrazombieYT
    @ultrazombieYT 3 місяці тому +71

    I think if they want to replace C418's music with Raine's, they should add all of C418's as music discs, or make an option for classic Minecraft music to play alongside or instead of the new music.

    • @arshu_parshu1999
      @arshu_parshu1999 Місяць тому

      c418 music is already alongside lena raines music

  • @minepro2929
    @minepro2929 3 місяці тому +320

    C418 is perfect for what Minecraft is.
    Lena Raine is perfect for what Minecraft is going.

    • @HeydenHarvey
      @HeydenHarvey 2 місяці тому +16

      I think aeron cherof is also really underrated
      I think the new 1.21 music is just incredible, no bad ones apart from one imo, which is really good compared to how many they added

    • @honooryu5374
      @honooryu5374 2 місяці тому +3

      Perfectly put

    • @minepro2929
      @minepro2929 2 місяці тому +1

      @@honooryu5374 thanks

    • @April480p
      @April480p 2 місяці тому +11

      Exactly.
      C418 was perfect for Notch's Minecraft. An oasis of creativity, fun memories with friends and the joy of discovery. A brand-new, beautiful and frightening world of wonders, ready for you to sink hundreds upon hundreds of hours into. A beautiful piece of art, made by a passionate artist.
      Lena is perfect for Microsoft's Minecraft. A soulless, corporate husk devoid of direction, designed to make as much money as possible through cutting corners, with lazy devs and corporate slaves calling themselves "musicians", who in reality are ready to stab their fellow colleague in the back for a crumb of that multi-trillion company's dollar.
      This game was gone after Microsoft bought it, and the complete spit on the face of the musican who made this game what it used to be, was the final nail in the coffin.
      I have zero respect for Lena and other greedy, pathetic corporate bootlickers who stole Rosenfeld's place.

    • @HeydenHarvey
      @HeydenHarvey 2 місяці тому +4

      @@April480p What

  • @dreamedwave
    @dreamedwave 3 місяці тому +45

    The title and thumbnail are a little misleading but it's very nice to learn about Lena Raine and her history.
    ALso cool, I didn't know there was a whole interview about her, how did I miss this?!?!

    • @likvidniyzmiy
      @likvidniyzmiy 2 місяці тому +2

      His*

    • @Hirotara
      @Hirotara Місяць тому

      A little misleading is an understatement

  • @SleepyBear_SB
    @SleepyBear_SB 3 місяці тому +168

    I like some of Lena Raines Minecraft music but there is something off about it compared the C418’s. Like whenever you hear Moog City, Sweden wet hands, blocks, or Minecraft. You know what each of those songs are. But with the new Minecraft music it all just sounds the same (to at least me) like whenever you hear infinite amethyst, left to bloom, wending or floating dream. You could swap any of those songs and nobody would notice. But a ome of this is probably just nostalgia for C418’s old work.
    EDIT: this could also be because Minecraft gets more music every update now instead of every few updates.

    • @slsthewriter1299
      @slsthewriter1299 3 місяці тому +21

      This. I honestly do like a lot of the music, but it feels like a *shift* in change rather than an evolution, which is not inherently Lena's fault. That falls into the overall design of the game and her music's incorporation.

    • @NJWebCrawler
      @NJWebCrawler 3 місяці тому +13

      I definitely feel it's the nostalgia factor that affects how c418's music impacts you.
      Some of the older Lena Raine songs for me personally are starting to become nostalgic for me, and while of course they are different some what, they are definitely minecraft.

    • @varunagrawal7036
      @varunagrawal7036 3 місяці тому +10

      You've heard those songs by C418 hundreds and hundreds of times over several years. Given time, I feel Lena's work will also stand out just as much.

    • @NJWebCrawler
      @NJWebCrawler 3 місяці тому +4

      @varunagrawal7036 i just installed a music pack called "recued" which will ideally give me a chance to listen to her and the other new non c418 music along side the c418 music at a reasonable balance. 👍

    • @Gigi4u
      @Gigi4u 3 місяці тому +12

      She is at her best when not trying to emulate C418s overworld music. This can be seen clear as day in the nether and ancient citys were she has full creativ freedom.

  • @fantasywaffle
    @fantasywaffle 2 місяці тому +284

    I think the argument of "C418 is better than Lean Raine" or vise versa is stupid. Both of them are amazing artists, with their own great style.

    • @jackbluehq6653
      @jackbluehq6653 2 місяці тому +41

      I don't think people are arguing who's music is fundamentally better, but more so who's music is better for minecraft
      In my opinion C418s music is legendary and will never be beaten, it was perfect for what Minecraft was, if Minecrafts soul was in the form of music that was C418s music.
      Lean Raines music is really good, and sometimes i think she makes a soundtrack that fits really well. But overall, it doesn't capture Minecrafts soul nearly as perfectly. She makes good music, but the question is does she make good Minecraft music? Too that I say, yes i think she does at times, but C418s was perfect and pretty much every single soundtrack he made was iconic and perfect for what Minecraft is. His music heightened the experience by alot and that's what's important to recognise

    • @slugcat3
      @slugcat3 2 місяці тому

      @@theoneandonlyufomini-botwho tf is elias

    • @FurryMLG
      @FurryMLG 2 місяці тому

      Only thing Raine will do is contribute to the 48%. Dievershitty hire plain and simple.

    • @subzu2733
      @subzu2733 2 місяці тому

      ​@theoneandonlyufomini-bot it's lena dickhead, also C418 suggested her to Microsoft in the first fucking place.

    • @theoneandonlyufomini-bot
      @theoneandonlyufomini-bot 2 місяці тому

      @IdunWotDaily either way, it still isn't right.

  • @fantasywaffle
    @fantasywaffle 2 місяці тому +22

    Lena Raine is one of my biggest inspirations for music.

  • @AceCJay
    @AceCJay 3 місяці тому +153

    Personally, I absolutely love and adore lena raines music, but I understand why some people dont

    • @Enderwave22
      @Enderwave22 2 місяці тому +17

      Maybe because letting go is hard.

    • @kugelstich8632
      @kugelstich8632 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Enderwave22So true. There are too many people that can’t handle nostalgia :/

    • @levoderso7469
      @levoderso7469 2 місяці тому +9

      @@Enderwave22 Or because their styles do differ and some people just prefer it. Lena makes great music, I just prefer that unique something that C418 manages to create.

    • @b1te_
      @b1te_ 2 місяці тому

      maybe because she's a w*man and that's kinda disgusting

    • @elfrangofrito
      @elfrangofrito 2 місяці тому +5

      I don't even dislike Lena Raine, I just don't like her music for Minecraft specifically

  • @SanguiniCore
    @SanguiniCore 2 місяці тому +31

    _"The Musician So Good, She Replaced Minecraft’s C418..."_
    I beg to differ. Nothing will ever replace his work.

  • @theredrighteye4380
    @theredrighteye4380 3 місяці тому +135

    We will know if Lena’s music is good if the kids that are playing Minecraft now are feeling nostalgia in 10 years when they are listening to her music.
    Only then we will know if Lena’s music is good.

    • @WeebsArePathetic
      @WeebsArePathetic 2 місяці тому

      That has nothing to do with being good. Kids will be nostalgic about whatever brainrot is mainstream during childhood. They'll literally have nostalgia over skibidy toilet or wtvr

    • @aleksitjvladica.
      @aleksitjvladica. 19 днів тому

      ARE YOU BLIND?! IT IS A MAN DRESSED AS A WOMAN!

  • @glitchiono
    @glitchiono 2 місяці тому +15

    I am personally confused by the thumbnail
    there is no "better" here, they're just different

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +2

      its just clickbait/ragebait

  • @Holo1470
    @Holo1470 3 місяці тому +14

    I think Lena Raine’s music fits Minecraft’s gradual transition to more and more complex ideas, but overall Minecraft to me personally is about the simplicity and calmness of the game that the older versions and music have. I like Pigstep and Otherside but I overall much prefer the more chill, nostalgic, and simple feel that the C418 brings with the vast majority of his Minecraft music

  • @YaEh215
    @YaEh215 3 місяці тому +20

    i love listening to otherside and infinite amethyst. but then bloody mojang yet again changed the song makers twice. it went from lena to samuel amberg. then from samuel to aron cheif. and then they kept aron, whilst also bringing back lena for both the original and music box version of creator. MOJANG MAKE YOUR BLOODY MIND UP ON WHO YOU WANT TO MAKE MUSIC

    • @MustacheOnMars9
      @MustacheOnMars9 3 місяці тому +8

      Are multiple composers not allowed?

    • @YaEh215
      @YaEh215 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MustacheOnMars9 im not saying no but its just kinda annoying a bit. but yes they are allowed little kid

    • @berfae
      @berfae 3 місяці тому +3

      @@YaEh215Kumi Tanioka is the forgotten one

    • @corneliusmcmuffin3256
      @corneliusmcmuffin3256 3 місяці тому

      @@MustacheOnMars9I think one music director is inarguably better, for the same reason why multiple directors is a bad idea. Not to say it doesn’t always work, I love pizza tower and that’s a collection of different artists working on a project, but personally having one directed vision and following through with that vision more than not leaves a more satisfying result.

    • @MustacheOnMars9
      @MustacheOnMars9 2 місяці тому

      @@corneliusmcmuffin3256 You know what, fair point. I can see where you’re coming from.

  • @zettour.
    @zettour. Місяць тому +4

    "Infinite Amethyst" is ironically what solidified to me the notion that no one can replace C418 and no composer will ever capture the soul of Minecraft again. It's easily her magnum opus for Minecraft and yet it's alien. It doesn't have the core of Minecraft: the existential dread that infinite possibilities represents.
    Her music isn't a theme for Minecraft so much as it was a theme for someone's vision of Minecraft as they craft it into their image for us to enjoy. It forgets that Minecraft is a canvas for players to paint on, not for an artist to express themselves and then sell to the masses. It's not corporate persay, but it's too full of humanity and the need to acknowledge either the new direction of Minecraft or the feelings the old players still have for it. What's lost is what Minecraft was and what still lies underneath the veneer of Caves and Cliffs or even the earlier Exploration updates. Infinite possibilities rather than select, curated, multiplex choices.
    If you want to argue that her music is better for new Minecraft, I'd agree. But new Minecraft and the core of Minecraft are no longer one in the same. That's why so many believe the game has lost its soul. In more ways than one, it truly has.

  • @309electronics5
    @309electronics5 2 місяці тому +4

    "Try not to chase greed challenge" microsoft: Impossible

  • @BlinciMinecraft
    @BlinciMinecraft 3 місяці тому +38

    You cooked this video, both have iconic lasting era's for one of the biggest games on earth

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +3

      Cooked? Dude made a 11 minute long video ranting about some rando who took over C418's job and calls her 'better' with an ordinary shitty clickbait looking ass thumbnail. So let me ask you again, 'cooked'?

  • @BazilBuildBases
    @BazilBuildBases 2 місяці тому +8

    honestly, Lena Rain's music is one of these few things that not irritates me in new Minecraft. it's lovely!
    but yes, Mojang, give us back C418. there is still place for a third album in this game..

  • @bladonski
    @bladonski 3 місяці тому +8

    the soundtrack C418 composed for this game is an absolute masterclass and in my opinion singlehandedly created the strange lonesome semi surrealist "feel" of old minecraft. Lena's music doesn't jump out to me from a narrative or atmospheric context like C418's soundtrack did. It's actually legit one of the best video game soundtracks ever made when judged as a soundtrack, not as an album (judging songs based entirely on how they add to the game experience and your emotions as you play, not as songs themselves). The only other soundtrack I can think of that comes close in this regard is Yume Nikki's soundtrack as it similarily to minecraft's also singlehandedly creates Yume Nikki's unique & otherworldly atmosphere and makes you feel something special while playing you would not be able to feel without the soundtrack.

  • @ricidk
    @ricidk 3 місяці тому +36

    nobody can replace C418 in my heart but her music is good

    • @Benm8_
      @Benm8_ 2 місяці тому +1

      My exact thoughts

    • @shrivak
      @shrivak 2 місяці тому +1

      Honestly, I like Lena's music... as well as the other new musicians... but 90% of it really doesn't fit Minecraft. The sudden sharp starts to the music, the high-frequencies, the lack of soft piano, the smooth crescendos, practically non-existent. Plus, the instant feeling of nostalgia, like you're traveling a world you've forgotten, is practically missing.

  • @goodboi1725
    @goodboi1725 2 місяці тому +3

    I barely finished the main story of Celeste a few days ago and already loved Lena’s OSTs. Realizing that she’s adding her own contributions to Minecraft is just awesome.

  • @wagiqwq
    @wagiqwq 2 місяці тому +46

    This is probably the worst rage bait video I've had the displeasure of clicking on.

  • @Zephy3
    @Zephy3 3 місяці тому +87

    Minecraft fans are so stuck in the past. They struggle so hard to see any form of change in what they see as "perfect," so when c418 stopped making music for the game, these people got it in their head that whoever made more music needed to make it exactly like the old stuff. No, Lena's music isnt exactly like c418 music, but it doesnt need to be. It creates a wonderful effect regardless. People love to judge her work and only ever rate her music as it compares to c418, which isnt fair. Her music still creates wonderful images in my mind and brings back memories of my time playing Minecraft. Her use of motifs and ambience still very much carries many attributes of c418's work, but its meant to be new and different at the same time.

    • @alen4704
      @alen4704 3 місяці тому +17

      c418 never stopped making music for the game it was microsoft who didnt let him to make music for it

    • @corneliusmcmuffin3256
      @corneliusmcmuffin3256 3 місяці тому +14

      @@alen4704I think it’s this that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Lena and C418 have entirely different methodologies and only one of them lined up with a profit driven corporation. Lena wants to share her music influence others and cares little about ownership of her music, just the impact, c418 wants to own his music and it’s a completely reasonable thing to want, he doesn’t do it for the money or fame but out of the craft itself. They are 2 respectable people but one gets shafted because of greed. It’s sad but we don’t live in a perfect world.

    • @Hirotara
      @Hirotara Місяць тому +2

      No one is hating on her style bro. It’s this clown who’s using clickbait to create a divide in the comments.
      They are both different people with their own styles, so why even compare? They both can be here

  • @typicalgentleman
    @typicalgentleman 3 місяці тому +229

    I dislike Lena Raine's Minecraft music simply because nobody can come close to C418's style. It's not just nostalgia, either. Anyone could recognize C418 from his non-Minecraft albums, which can't be said about Rena. She's stuck between her own variety of music and C418's, making her contribution to Minecraft confusing and unsatisfying.

    • @webbyoyster
      @webbyoyster 3 місяці тому +20

      Exactly. All I can think of is Celeste when I listen to her Minecraft music

    • @leonesquel6761
      @leonesquel6761 3 місяці тому +5

      She needs to get more variety in her music

    • @_Caleb_Water_
      @_Caleb_Water_ 3 місяці тому +32

      Bro it’s not nostalgic bc you didn’t listen to it when you were playing Minecraft 10years ago. Music is a Carrier for nostalgia, you get nostalgia for being in a state of freedom, like in Minecraft.

    • @madhunter6420
      @madhunter6420 3 місяці тому

      its a he. dont call it a she. cuz its a man

    • @user-xt4gh7tn9p
      @user-xt4gh7tn9p 3 місяці тому +19

      minecraft is not bound tô c418, minecraft is a different game from what it was when Daniel made music for it, but people refuse to understand this

  • @darkspark5854
    @darkspark5854 3 місяці тому +9

    There should be an option to only use the legacy music by C14

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +3

      i really disagree tbh

    • @majocountryballs9866
      @majocountryballs9866 2 місяці тому

      there is option, you can always turn off the music in setttings and have volume alpha playing from yt.

    • @elijahyancey3393
      @elijahyancey3393 2 місяці тому

      @@majocountryballs9866 an ingame option goober

    • @moonlight_is_a_weirdo
      @moonlight_is_a_weirdo 2 місяці тому +1

      there's a mod for it

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +1

      @@moonlight_is_a_weirdo which sucks

  • @NickAndriadze
    @NickAndriadze 2 місяці тому +13

    I like how instead of trying to replicate what C418 has masterfully done, Lena tries to bring new light to Minecraft's soundtrack and create something original, leaving her signature on the game. She's genuinely a very talented music creator from everything I've listened to (I say this despite never actually listening to the Celeste OST) and deserves more respect, instead of those shallow ''modern Minecraft music sucks/doesn't fit the game'' videos.

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому

      listen to celeste ost! or play the game hehe- it will genuinely change your life

    • @thtautisticgamer
      @thtautisticgamer 2 місяці тому

      @@qtpaulie I could never get into celeste, the music is awesome, ngl, but I suck at 2D games lol

  • @norikins1
    @norikins1 2 місяці тому +6

    Lena Raine is NOT Minecraft's "sole composer" like c418 was. That is misinformation. Minecraft has hired various composers in recent years. Kumi Tanioka and Samuel Åberg worked with Lena on Caves and Cliffs and the Wild Update. Aaron Cherof was the composer for Trails and Tales.

    • @thtautisticgamer
      @thtautisticgamer 2 місяці тому +2

      and the 3 (not counting Samuel Åberg) did the whole 1.21 album.

  • @antennahead-official9524
    @antennahead-official9524 2 місяці тому +4

    Lena's Minecraft tracks give me Earthbound mixed with Minecraft vibes and I think it's unique and beautiful! C418 is still amazing but they're just two different genres of music

  • @BeogradGSP
    @BeogradGSP 2 місяці тому +11

    C418 will always be better....

  • @Hirotara
    @Hirotara Місяць тому +3

    You’re risking your credit for the sake of clickbait and quick views broski. Not even gonna watch the video, just came here to say this. Don’t go disrespecting the man responsible for so many people’s childhoods like that just for “dramatic effect" and clickbait

  • @Duck_In_Bread
    @Duck_In_Bread 2 місяці тому +2

    I personally think Mojang should have kept C418 but also introduced new artists. Just imagine what Lena Raine and C418 could have made if they worked together.

  • @surelynotdan
    @surelynotdan 3 місяці тому +20

    To be honest, I like Lena Raine’s music

  • @spencerdrums9776
    @spencerdrums9776 2 місяці тому +1

    11:00 there are currently multiple composers for Minecraft in addition to Lena: Kumi Tanioka and Aaron Cherof.

  • @tuwubah
    @tuwubah 3 місяці тому +17

    Shes such a queen! Ive been following her work since she wrote for Celeste and shes gotten better and better!

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому

      she's soo good

  • @l0rd0f5k33p
    @l0rd0f5k33p 2 місяці тому +1

    She’s easily my favorite artist. Love her so much. One of the nicest people I’ve talked to.

  • @Josuh
    @Josuh 2 місяці тому +3

    Bro the thumbnail doesn't have to be so serious 😭

  • @hartantosetiawan4835
    @hartantosetiawan4835 2 місяці тому +2

    Respectfully no one replace c418, but both are special and good in their own way

  • @prototypical
    @prototypical 2 місяці тому +6

    you look like that one kid that wears a Detroit shirt in Ferris bulers day off

  • @LitaroRizo
    @LitaroRizo 2 місяці тому +1

    Both c418's and Lena's musics are just awesome and deserve a place in Minecraft !

  • @johnsmith9578
    @johnsmith9578 2 місяці тому +4

    TLDR C418 is not being replaced with Lena Raine. They are keeping C418’s music in the game. Lena is just making recognizable music for the game like C418.

  • @AbdellatifMohamed
    @AbdellatifMohamed 12 днів тому

    I was expecting an underwhelming video based on the thumbnail, but this is a good love letter to lena raine and Old School C418. Also presented neatly

  • @R1vals_11
    @R1vals_11 2 місяці тому +2

    Lena Raine makes great music, without a doubt, and probably will for the next generation of Minecrafters but for the 0G's C418 art in music just will never be replaced. He created a foundation for new music producers for Minecraft and even the game itself, nothing will ever replace that.

    • @thtautisticgamer
      @thtautisticgamer 2 місяці тому +2

      First comment I've seen that doesn't insult Lena for being trans

  • @sunny__41
    @sunny__41 2 місяці тому +1

    actually🤓 in the beginning you got the timeline wrong, she used to work for other bigger games and companies like ubisoft and guild wars and then she got called for celeste in 2016-17, which was like the thing that made her famous and then she got hired by minecraft to make the music for the nether update in 2019-20, to only then make a few guest songs for deltarune with the game releasing in 2021, also making the music for chicory a colorul tale in 2021 and now working on beastieball by the same guys who made chicory, with also some other stuff i forgot to mention

  • @SagaEf
    @SagaEf 2 місяці тому +3

    How is Deltarune a stepping stone to Celeste?
    Celeste came out in 2018, but Lena only worked on chapter 2.

  • @8569_nanomachines_son
    @8569_nanomachines_son Місяць тому +3

    She's good but better than c418, hell nah

  • @arisuwatermelon555
    @arisuwatermelon555 3 місяці тому +10

    Thank you for shedding light on an amazing creator I barely knew anything about despite playing regularly minecraft and always hearing her songs in the background.
    For the people mad in the comments, it's not about "replacing" C418, it's about adding new artistic touches to a game enjoyed by millions.
    Great video dude! :D

  • @EL3CTR0LYTE
    @EL3CTR0LYTE Місяць тому +2

    No one is replacing the GOAT of Minecraft music lil bro. Lena Raine's good, but she's just adding to the masterpieces that C418 pioneered

    • @Pvzgirl423
      @Pvzgirl423 Місяць тому

      Nah there good in their own style
      No nostalgia shit bias

  • @Coreybyte
    @Coreybyte 3 місяці тому +111

    Just another note, C418 isn't mad at Lena for being the current music producer of minecraft, and stands with trans rights having called out some transphobia towards her because her music is in the game.

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 2 місяці тому +7

      So someone trying to get DEI points from BalckRock... Not for long

    • @Coreybyte
      @Coreybyte 2 місяці тому +3

      @@racingraptor4758 ??? huh?

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Coreybyte ok, that goes very deep and kinda off topic so ima not go deeper...

    • @mythrillmeyhem8998
      @mythrillmeyhem8998 2 місяці тому +12

      @@racingraptor4758u won’t go deeper cause u got no clue what ur saying lmao

    • @Coreybyte
      @Coreybyte 2 місяці тому +1

      @@racingraptor4758 im still confused... but ok?

  • @thsxi
    @thsxi 2 місяці тому +12

    Thumbnail saying it’s better should be a crime

  • @phalnx2614
    @phalnx2614 3 місяці тому +4

    Both music are good ✨

  • @noturmum7967
    @noturmum7967 Місяць тому +1

    Not one, not two, but 3 dramatic fades to the next segment? Someone's watched too many videos essays

  • @cheapartistcheapy
    @cheapartistcheapy 2 місяці тому +4

    im sure c418 was dropped cause thoose microsoft creatures wanted to make money from music aswell as from games.

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly. But recent news show it might be finally over

  • @valletas
    @valletas 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel like one of the main reasons is that c418 really hasnt done much after working for minecraft
    Its kinda insane to think about but he probably doesnt activelly search for jobs and instead just wait for people to call him
    So when the time came microsoft just called someone else

  • @SuperXavier_R
    @SuperXavier_R 3 місяці тому +5

    Yo. Fun Fact. C418 released those 3 "unreleased" discs are out now. The third album is truly and finally out. The links will be put in the reply section.

    • @SuperXavier_R
      @SuperXavier_R 3 місяці тому +2

      Dragon Fish: ua-cam.com/video/RxHgq2w-RsY/v-deo.html

    • @bob38028
      @bob38028 3 місяці тому

      @@SuperXavier_R This music is in the game as a main menu song right?

    • @madelynscorner
      @madelynscorner 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@SuperXavier_Rthis is music from the update aquatic and is in the game and has been since 2018

    • @madelynscorner
      @madelynscorner 3 місяці тому

      ​@@bob38028I don't know if it plays on the menu but if you stay underwater long enough it'll play

    • @SuperXavier_R
      @SuperXavier_R 3 місяці тому

      Idk

  • @tristnnnn
    @tristnnnn 2 місяці тому +2

    what a cool well put and interesting documentary wrapped into an incredibly rage baity click baity title and thumbnail. sad.

  • @Kaybeeguy
    @Kaybeeguy 2 місяці тому +3

    To me, I think Lena is a great musician. Obviously, you can't fill in the shoes of a titan but she has a style that really works for Minecraft. I recall seeing online that C418 himself chose her as his successor, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Either way, I think Minecraft still has a great soundtrack, even with the newer songs.

  • @IrishKingzz
    @IrishKingzz 3 місяці тому +56

    C418 can never be replaced

  • @CRIDIC
    @CRIDIC 2 місяці тому +1

    I KNEW IT. I thought I was going crazy but c418s music is barely in the game these days. Thank you for confirming I’m not crazy

  • @malte3994
    @malte3994 3 місяці тому +26

    She in my opinion really did a good job at recreating the feelings c418 gave

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +3

      Nah.

  • @hennyzhi2261
    @hennyzhi2261 3 дні тому

    Maybe it's because I've started playing Minecraft really late, but I like both composers take on it. It doesn't seem to be something as brutally shifting in mood like the devicive art change proposal way back in the early patches when Notch was really helming things mostly by himself with some additional help. Most of the music I've listened to so far seem to respect where the game started, wanting to make "Minecraft" fitting songs which was always a concern by Notch and C418 back when in IRCs they'd almost decide to not include music because it's hard to make tracks that don't pigeonholed people into one set emotion, just as much as it's hard to compose for open world games where you can't control what the player is doing or in what sequence.

  • @ZaganBlack
    @ZaganBlack 2 місяці тому +7

    There is a lot of misinformation on Lena here. First of all Lena studied at Cornish not USC. Second, Celeste released in 2018, she released her first minecraft music in 2020 and deltarune chapter 2 released in 2021. The timeline you created seems very inaccurate. You don't even mention any previous projects before Celeste like Guild Wars 2 (which is a HUGE one). There are a couple more things that don't seem to be accurate and is mindless speculation. Please do more research before telling an entire community inaccurate information.

    • @SypherMinecraft
      @SypherMinecraft  2 місяці тому

      Thank you zagan black, I will not and continue to make mistakes in my videos as if i intended to do it. Get real bro lmao

    • @SimplyMatthew
      @SimplyMatthew 2 місяці тому

      The reason why is because I'm 100% sure he doesn't make the script for this video. 12K subs with a little few videos is a red flag.

    • @SypherMinecraft
      @SypherMinecraft  2 місяці тому

      @@SimplyMatthewI have a researcher who made some mistakes?

    • @SypherMinecraft
      @SypherMinecraft  2 місяці тому

      !*

    • @nobodyimportant7828
      @nobodyimportant7828 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SypherMinecraftu mean an ai huh

  • @gustavakerman2566
    @gustavakerman2566 13 днів тому +1

    Comparing Raine and C418 is like comparing a sunset to a thunderstorm. Both are equally beautiful and powerful but they aren't really comparable

  • @Internetuser435
    @Internetuser435 3 місяці тому +3

    I like both artists

  • @tora9567
    @tora9567 2 місяці тому +1

    dude i somehow never made the connection that Lena Raine (Minecraft) and Lena Raine (Celeste) were the same person

  • @AndrieMC
    @AndrieMC 3 місяці тому +4

    multiple people "replaced" c418

    • @madelynscorner
      @madelynscorner 3 місяці тому +6

      thank you so much
      it annoys me that nobody ever brings up the other composers I know Lena Raine is the biggest name with the composers right now but she's not the only one-

  • @ClickyCrisp
    @ClickyCrisp 2 місяці тому

    excellently edited!

  • @axospyeyes281
    @axospyeyes281 2 місяці тому +48

    the thumbnail is stupid

    • @braedynlopez9562
      @braedynlopez9562 2 місяці тому +1

      Gotta get them clicks somehow

    • @WeebsArePathetic
      @WeebsArePathetic 2 місяці тому

      ​@@braedynlopez9562 If I ever had to make thumbnails like this to make a living, I'd get a real job.

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +2

      Ikr.

    • @SomethingN-xd7de
      @SomethingN-xd7de 2 місяці тому

      atleast the video is great

    • @DoguQ
      @DoguQ 2 місяці тому +2

      @@SomethingN-xd7deit could be. But with that thumbnail its not.

  • @SomethingN-xd7de
    @SomethingN-xd7de 2 місяці тому +2

    Well I mean, isn't there Aaron cherof and Kumi? and im pretty sure Samuel made the disk 5 too(I think)

  • @Tatokun92
    @Tatokun92 3 місяці тому +4

    I think lena's music it's ok, not to say its great or bad some tones fit in Minecraft some don't, but still are Ok, but if Mojang was thinking to replace C418 to Lena i would be pissed, every year the game gets more updates and modernized everything but also keeping the old things what made Minecraft as big and popular today.
    I also know for a fact that Lena is transgender and to just clarify that doesn't bother me even tho I'm straight, but i do respect the work she does to make it as memorable as some tones did with C418, maybe she hasn't gotten there yet but eventually and with more creativity she will be in the top of those games and tones that made it memorable.
    Who knows, we would never know until we see it happen in the future, as for C418 he stays as a legend and no one can't or could never replace his music from Minecraft for it, it's what made it so iconic to begin with.
    Every opinion is welcome, after all, they're just opinions. Have a great day.

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +1

      why the transness mention lol? that has nothing to do with her music.

    • @Tatokun92
      @Tatokun92 2 місяці тому +1

      @@qtpaulie indeed, but is in fact a transgender, or is it not?

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Tatokun92 she* is trans, yes. but it doesn't matter with regard to her music.

    • @Tatokun92
      @Tatokun92 2 місяці тому +1

      @@qtpaulie hey, um just saying, nothing else

  • @nobodyimportant7828
    @nobodyimportant7828 2 місяці тому

    I saw a comment that cleared up some stuff, but I wanna add more to that from what I've heard and read. It wasn't that Lena was struggling to find work as a composer it's more that I don't think she was actively composing for games at the time. She was working at ArenaNet as a game designer and was a tester for nintendo at some point and probably just did music on her own time. She did write a few game soundtracks before Celeste, but Celeste seems like it was the stepping stone to becoming a full time freelancer which led to all the other opportunities she's had

  • @bradugar
    @bradugar 2 місяці тому +3

    When I heard Infinite Amethyst by Lena for the first time it felt Nostalgic & already Iconic from a first listen. Perfect for Minecraft. It's a shame you can only hear it in Lush Caves as the track is that good, wouldn't mind if it played just anywhere in the overworld aside the deep dark.

  • @frankiegaya8906
    @frankiegaya8906 2 місяці тому

    Lena's music for me is filled with so much wonder and whimsy, her work in Celeste is beautiful and I really like what she's doing in Minecraft, it really fits the new direction Mojang has for it

  • @KinderOff
    @KinderOff 3 місяці тому +20

    C418 sounds more like a classic minecraft, Lena Raine fits better with the modern minecraft

  • @plutoniumrocks
    @plutoniumrocks 8 днів тому +1

    I will forever hate Microsoft for literally denying an entire third album of minecraft music from C418, then have a legion of other composers attempt to copy him.

  • @giakhanhvn2mc
    @giakhanhvn2mc 2 місяці тому +9

    Installed a mod to remove all music except C418's, best decision ever

    • @arshu_parshu1999
      @arshu_parshu1999 Місяць тому +1

      what's wrong with lena raines sound track along side c418s music???? do you want less music??? do you want the nether to sound the same as the overworld???

    • @TheTrueMichael
      @TheTrueMichael Місяць тому +3

      Question,​@@arshu_parshu1999: Why does the nether *need* to sound different? Sorry, Lena's music in minecraft just sounds soulless.

    • @thatblastedflyfish9515
      @thatblastedflyfish9515 Місяць тому

      Not gonna listen to the music made by someone who respect their art so little that they'll scab for the previous composure who quit to not support a shitty, cruel multi-trillion dollar corporation, sorry

  • @KitKitsuneVixen
    @KitKitsuneVixen 2 місяці тому +1

    i like Lena Raine's minecraft music.
    the only one i think might not fit the game perfectly is the recent track "Eld Unknown" because i feel it may be too active and tense for most situations.
    i think the best non-C418 minecraft track currently might be Featherfall by Aaron Cherof. It's very soft, rhythmic and entrancing. Maybe i just feel it suits the game because it's closest to C418, but i do think it works super well for what minecraft is. Komorebi by Kumi Tanioka is amazing too, despite being differently composed/arranged to Featherfall and the C418 music. Those examples are all recently released tracks though so there may be some recency bias.
    and of course Lena Raine's nether update soundtrack fits the dimension incredibly well.
    i think in the two camps of "C418 vs Lena Raine" i'm somewhere in the middle. i think C418's style generally works best for the game, but i understand that Minecraft is an ever evolving game, and that includes the music. I welcome change but i'm also naturally skeptical towards the new music, and i won't say any new music is bad just for not being C418.

  • @RadioactiveBluePlatypus
    @RadioactiveBluePlatypus 2 місяці тому +21

    I watch a video, look in the comment and of course... transphobia.

    • @theoneandonlyufomini-bot
      @theoneandonlyufomini-bot 2 місяці тому +1

      Deal with it

    • @liampemberton9320
      @liampemberton9320 2 місяці тому +2

      I saw someone say that Lena wasn’t “A real woman”

    • @theoneandonlyufomini-bot
      @theoneandonlyufomini-bot 2 місяці тому

      @@liampemberton9320 because he isn't. A woman cannot be man and man cannot be a woman no matter how many surgeries they get how many drugs they take. Sorry, that's how life works

    • @thtautisticgamer
      @thtautisticgamer 2 місяці тому +3

      @@theoneandonlyufomini-bot they can't be a cis woman*
      Maybe learn the difference between gender and sex.

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +3

      @@theoneandonlyufomini-bot she is a woman! and a real one at that!

  • @justyourdailymate2272
    @justyourdailymate2272 2 місяці тому

    I remember watching Stampy Cat, my first ever Minecraft UA-camr I watched when I was 4 in 2014, sounds a bit too young arguably. But neither the less, over those videos, I would hear C418’s Haggstorm OST. It had a beautiful and peaceful vibe, when listening to it the first time, it felt nostalgic and feels more nostalgic when hearing it today.

  • @thefalloutlord
    @thefalloutlord 3 місяці тому +12

    Music

  • @Dolfinik
    @Dolfinik 11 днів тому

    Why have i seen like 40 videos with this thumbnail style

  • @vitawBRx800
    @vitawBRx800 2 місяці тому

    the new minecraft songs sound like stardew valley ost, not bc the way the music is but the instruments makes me remember stardew valley

  • @flookaraz
    @flookaraz 2 місяці тому +3

    Maybe I'm out of the loop.... C418 isn't here anymore? I've never heard of Lena Raine....
    call me a flithy casual or something idk

    • @marbles4375
      @marbles4375 2 місяці тому +1

      C418's music is still in the game but he's not making music for Minecraft anymore. I'd say Lena Raine is a pretty well-known composer though

    • @flookaraz
      @flookaraz 2 місяці тому +2

      @@marbles4375 ah ok, thanks!

    • @marbles4375
      @marbles4375 2 місяці тому

      @@flookaraz np!!

  • @kluttglutt6648
    @kluttglutt6648 3 місяці тому +1

    I mean i also prefer the c418 albums but i wouldnt say that lenas albums are bad they are still good but i wish they would keep working with c418 and they could collab and combine both their ideas

  • @doggoner
    @doggoner 2 місяці тому +3

    As a musician i love both c418 and lena respectively, although they have two very different styles, and it seems most of the hate towards lena is directed less about her music and about how she identifies. Which is just sad.

    • @qtpaulie
      @qtpaulie 2 місяці тому +2

      exactly. this is just ragebait for transphobia

  • @ninguem2491
    @ninguem2491 День тому

    Lena, kudos for doing that, for composing

  • @Lakjager
    @Lakjager 2 місяці тому +3

    0:30 does anyone know what song this is? I hear it a lot but I haven’t been able to find it.

  • @YusukeiGaming
    @YusukeiGaming 2 місяці тому +1

    I personally like Lena Raine's music more to be honest as it captures a fantasy vibes of minecraft with shaders. Unlike C418 his music it feels like a classic minecraft without shaders. My favorite music of C418 is the Aria Math.

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 2 місяці тому +10

    I mean, if anyone was set to take the stand of such an iconic composer, I'd say the one who composed the music of f***ing _Celeste_ is a good bet

    • @thtautisticgamer
      @thtautisticgamer 2 місяці тому

      Autism

    • @Xominus
      @Xominus 2 місяці тому +2

      Lmao, no. The answer is nobody. Nobody can replace someone, don't think like an idiot.

  • @magoleo-pr7if
    @magoleo-pr7if 16 днів тому

    One reason why people did't initially like Lena Raine making music for Minecraft is, while Lena did a banger job in Celeste, it took a while until she adapted to Minecraft, her first musics in the nether and caves n cliffs updates didn't fit the game at all, but now in Tricky Trials we're seeing some good music an i hope it keeps that way.
    C418 absolutely nailed the eerie, boundless survival experience that Minecraft is.. or was, considering that most of the content Mojang add nowadays is more for marketing purposes than actual gameplay effect.