Genius is Possession - Nietzsche's philosophy of art

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  • Nietzsche's philosophy on art. How art comes from the Dionysian state, and how genius is possession.
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    #nietzsche #dionysus #philosophy
    0:00 - Artist vs art critic
    1:52 - Art & addiction
    2:48 - Genius is divine possession
    4:47 - Passions & frenzy
    7:32 - Creative flow states

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  • @darth6129
    @darth6129 Місяць тому +24

    "A man is less likely to become great the more he is dominated by reason: few can achieve greatness - and none in art - if they are not dominated by illusion." - Mr. Doctor

  • @normancupit
    @normancupit Місяць тому +11

    Excellent, little brother.
    I'm a 60 year old, and have earned my bread as an artist my whole life.
    Thanks for reminding me of the two modes.
    God bless.

    • @mothurman
      @mothurman Місяць тому

      Boomers aren’t allowed to “lil bro” other generations. Boomers are the have the lowest vril of any generation

  • @themodernawakenedperspecti4457
    @themodernawakenedperspecti4457 Місяць тому +10

    Being in the flow state is the best feeling!

  • @titanoboaoficial2014
    @titanoboaoficial2014 Місяць тому +8

    Man this channel is brutal! Not only frenzy on music and art but also on life... We need to live life with passion.... Something i think is being lost right now

  • @Kahneq
    @Kahneq Місяць тому +14

    I love this, I am an artist; when I was younger I used things like psilocybin mushrooms to enter altered states of awareness in order to see different perspectives fueling my music. After meeting real witches/sorcerers they taught me you can only take your awareness so far in this way, and true mastery of reality is done sober purely with ones will or the surrender of it.

  • @minde1337
    @minde1337 Місяць тому +5

    Extremely true. Anon music producer of 11 years here and when you are calm, the infinite choices of creativity side track you, make you contemplate and waste time even many times making you fuck up your own art when you are more than skilled for it. Once you find your beast (I like to think of it as kung fu and finding your beast) you radiate energy not just into the song but it seems like into everything around you, the walls, the air. And you make quick snappy decisions that turn out brilliant.

  • @neonorange6545
    @neonorange6545 Місяць тому +5

    Lol the artists all fuked up with the monster energy hahaha!

  • @amrelshafei206
    @amrelshafei206 Місяць тому +6

    Really great video!
    I think it is also useful to bear in mind that entering the flow state isn't the purpose in itself. You can't be passionate in the Dionysian manner all the time, not merely because the modern world stifles it, but because the modern world can also consume you if you aren't cautious enough. Like you mentioned, lots of artists including Nietzsche worked on awakening the passions, but they were extremely vulnerable because they lacked the means to defend themselves.
    True, the modern world constricts the Dionysian aspect of man, but that doesn't mean the Apollonian aspect is any less important. YOU GOT TO BE BOTH. ELSE YOU'LL PERISH, OR LIVE AN ILLUSION!!

  • @orishadray
    @orishadray Місяць тому +1

    Your changed my life bro…

  • @gavinhennigan3083
    @gavinhennigan3083 Місяць тому +1

    “Without music, life would be a mistake” another great, relevant and sometimes (to me) paralyzing quote.
    Amor Fati my companion.

  • @aminjaguar1
    @aminjaguar1 Місяць тому +4

    I was waiting for a new video
    We love your content from Iran ❤❤❤

  • @11-AisexualsforGod-11
    @11-AisexualsforGod-11 Місяць тому +3

    The slave at the losing end of subjugating technologies has to be both physically and mentally stronger then the master which is why their always victorious in the end

  • @neonorange6545
    @neonorange6545 Місяць тому +3

    These videos are gold! Gracias desde Colombia!

  • @popohater88
    @popohater88 Місяць тому +2

    When you were talking about writing under the influence of the frenzy state it reminded me of Philip.k.dick books. Many of them are written with misspellings and poor punctuation. But all of them are good.

  • @GorilkaCo
    @GorilkaCo Місяць тому +7

    I was going to sleep but whatever, another based video, brother.

    • @_DataSets_
      @_DataSets_ Місяць тому

      Sweet dreams sweatheart

  • @user-is3yn7xr4c
    @user-is3yn7xr4c Місяць тому +1

    I like that the word *"cruelty"* has two implication, which are the ability to either inflict suffering/destruction or to be inflicting hyper-intense level of pleasure to the point of addiction (from the receiver)

  • @alexjimenezmartinez5403
    @alexjimenezmartinez5403 Місяць тому +1

    Remember to live in the moment following all emotions

  • @Aravis217
    @Aravis217 Місяць тому +3

    Ive always seen a true artist as a "coping mechanism". I dont mean that in a derogatory way at all, so please dont misunderstand me. A true artist doesnt seem to be able to deal with their emotions inside themselves and so they express themselves and their pain and trauma in whatever medium they prefer. A really great true artist is able to express any strong emotion they feel, not just the negative ones. They can also get the observer to feel beauty, goodness, and all emotional aspects of life even if those aspects arent normally considered emotions.
    Lately i have seen frenzy in videos od artists. Its amazing to watch these artists make something incredible out of (what began as) total chaos. They have a profound talent to express/ capture a single moment from life. And they do it the same way that all the origin stories begin. They transform chaos into order. So, honestly, i can understand why they thought the goda possessed them.

    • @MyName-tb9oz
      @MyName-tb9oz Місяць тому +1

      The 'true' artist just doesn't see the world the way non-artists do. They see things the rest of us don't. Imagine the frustration of being the only person in the world with eyes and trying to describe what you see to people who have no reference point for you to connect with. That is probably why there are so few truly great artists. That is why everyone thinks artists are all crazy. You'd be crazy too if no one else could see what you see, wouldn't you?

    • @Aravis217
      @Aravis217 Місяць тому +2

      @@MyName-tb9oz im not sure how much you know about esoteric/metaphysical subjects, but there is something called the heart/mind connection. If you can sync up the mind frequency and the heart frequency (there are neurons or brain cells in the heart) you can basically do anything. If you are able to do this while praying, your prayers will be answered. Ive actually witnessed this happen.
      Anyway- i spoke of the emotions, you spoke of sight. If you go by what i said above, then i believe we are both correct. The best art combines both the mind (sight) and the heart (emotions). 😁

    • @MyName-tb9oz
      @MyName-tb9oz Місяць тому

      Oh, dear, @@Aravis217... We could talk for years on that kind of thing.
      Honestly, my choice to specify sight was just a convenient analogy because the vast majority of people can understand it pretty easily.
      For decades I've been telling my children: You are not just a body, you are not just a mind, you are not just a spirit. They are the three legs of the stool your life sits on. You are all three and you must work to strengthen all three of them or eventually one of them will fail you because you failed it.

  • @gameaudioshaman
    @gameaudioshaman Місяць тому +1

    Nice one

  • @FluxNomad678
    @FluxNomad678 Місяць тому +1

    I have a crazy work schedule, so I don't really get around to intense festivals. Aside from Religion or Ideaology, western work culture is just awfully Utilitarian.
    However, what I do try to do is at least be a consumer of crazy surreal art, film, or music.

  • @killy374
    @killy374 Місяць тому

    I am a writer. Used alcohol for writing but I want to give up this and find myself, put myself out there , work hard for it, go outside, walk

  • @ayoungdev1793
    @ayoungdev1793 Місяць тому

    I think a light background music could be very good here❤

  • @AskTorin
    @AskTorin Місяць тому

    Amen brother
    Preach 🙏🙏

  • @phillipchavez1321
    @phillipchavez1321 Місяць тому

    4:44

  • @Dino_Medici
    @Dino_Medici Місяць тому

    Take me oh take me thy distant muse, for when yee move I move, renewed

  • @mikxyas
    @mikxyas Місяць тому

    Walking is soooo underrated.
    Do dopamine detox and go for walks.

  • @hakusho04
    @hakusho04 Місяць тому

    Where a dionostic state?

  • @seb9997
    @seb9997 Місяць тому

    miau

  • @spitalhelles3380
    @spitalhelles3380 Місяць тому

    Nietzsche be doing neuroscience back in 1673

  • @christophilous4831
    @christophilous4831 Місяць тому

    Nietzsche cultivated states of ecstasy by walking for up to 10 hours a day.

  • @MyName-tb9oz
    @MyName-tb9oz Місяць тому

    It's very simple: Artists don't see the world the same way other people do. Everything they do is just their attempt to communicate what they are seeing to people who don't see it. Imagine trying to explain the color green to someone who is blind! How can you do it? You simply _can't!_
    The artist's frustration and, "frenzy," is just the inability to 'properly' communicate with people they consider to be blind.
    Anyone can be trained to draw a picture reasonably well. A great artist can draw a picture that communicates far more than the lines on the paper do.
    "Anybody can look at a pretty girl and see a pretty girl. An artist can look at a pretty girl and see the old woman she will become. A better artist can look at an old woman and see the pretty girl that she used to be. But a great artist-a master-and that is what Auguste Rodin was-can look at an old woman, portray her exactly as she is...and force the viewer to see the pretty girl she used to be...and more than that, he can make anyone with the sensitivity of an armadillo, or even you, see that this lovely young girl is still alive, not old and ugly at all, but simply prisoned inside her ruined body. He can make you feel the quiet, endless tragedy that there was never a girl born who ever grew older than eighteen in her heart...no matter what the merciless hours have done to her. Look at her, Ben. Growing old doesn't matter to you and me; we were never meant to be admired-but it does to them."
    - Robert A. Heinlein (Stranger in a Strange Land)

    • @MyName-tb9oz
      @MyName-tb9oz Місяць тому

      Also... I'm not an artist. Not everyone has to be an artist. Sometimes what you need is a craftsman. Which is an entirely different sort of art.

  • @vikramchatterjee4495
    @vikramchatterjee4495 Місяць тому +1

    Not sure why you think you can take a hard stance against drugs while quoting Nietzsche that attacking passions at their root is attacking life itself. Maybe it has something to do with your secret sense of kinship with self help creators like David Deida

    • @EMMmaximino
      @EMMmaximino Місяць тому

      drugs take away from your mind, reduce natural dopamine since you're supplementing it your self from the outside, making the brain lazy in its natural production and sensory of when it should be used accordingly, and causing you to "get addicted" (which is a whole 'nother distraction), but how can one tap into flow state if his body starts the day off looking for cheap ways of stimulation. not saying to be straight edge but, work on getting that natural high on life. and the merit of being sober, and being in control.

    • @iamKristianBell
      @iamKristianBell  Місяць тому +1

      I'm someone who has done most drugs, and overcome the need for them. Although Psychadelics for instance are helpful resets in occasion, There are better ways to enhance the feelings and passions of life

  • @Justjoey17
    @Justjoey17 Місяць тому

    Caffeine’s a drug

  • @VoidStaredBack
    @VoidStaredBack Місяць тому

    Schopenhauer was stuck in the slave mentality, that's where Nietzsche saw beyond his friend's work.

    • @shehroz295
      @shehroz295 Місяць тому

      😡😠🤜🤛✊👊

    • @VoidStaredBack
      @VoidStaredBack Місяць тому

      @@shehroz295 not sure if you're angry with me or agreeing, but Schopenhauer's Christianity may have inspired his music but it limited him due to the slave mentality Nietzsche wrote of in The Gay Science and touched on in Beyond Good And Evil

  • @neggit2063
    @neggit2063 Місяць тому +2

    cool video man, but I think dancing is very gay

  • @11-AisexualsforGod-11
    @11-AisexualsforGod-11 Місяць тому +1

    I find literally nothing impressive..
    This is why my critiques of try hards are so brutally original..
    What the fk are all even doing then imagining what I would like to see other then your destruction?

  • @robertsaldana9704
    @robertsaldana9704 Місяць тому +2

    The gods your talking about were cruel throughout the world. They demanded human and animal sacrifices. They wanted blood. After Jesus human dignity became popular and human rights. You could’ve been born in to slavery in antiquity before spread of Christians. Returning to the gods is returning to paganism. I think this is foolish

  • @user-su5uf5yv1w
    @user-su5uf5yv1w Місяць тому

    I want to leave, I probably was insulted again.

  • @garethcoxmusic
    @garethcoxmusic Місяць тому

    Astrotheology is the answer. Not possession