Karen Read's Murder Trial | A Deep Dive
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2023
- "This is ballgame over!" Karen Read's attorneys say the murder allegations that Read killed her Boston police officer boyfriend will not make any sense to a jury. This case has generated national headlines for her claims that she’s being framed in a police cover-up for the death of John O’Keefe.
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@courttv do your research why turtle boy lost his teacher job. Yup UNDERAGE GIRL. EXPOSE REAL SCUM OF EARTH. PEDO. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU HAVE SCAM ARTIST ON YOUR SHOW
@@TurtleboyLive did you tell them about the underage girl????????????
@@bestPI-Everexactly my thoughts.
The media is your friend , but it’s also your worst enemy… any attorney who is competent and wants to see your client win would not want to publicize a case …. You hear him usually a defendant doesn’t speak out until after the trial … smiles and says: but that’s not the case here ,…my opinion the media will cover a ham&cheese sandwich of it can garnish millions of views .
Imagine if this lady didn't have money for attorneys. Her life will be over. How many people's lives have been destroyed because they couldn't afford lawyers
Exactly, especially when it's Joe Citizen vs. dirty cops. Good luck with that.
That's why you save your money, kids!
She killed him. The coverup they are alleging is ridiculous.
That’s actually the biggest problem here and IMO the reason that the prosecution isn’t letting up. Michael proctor investigated another high profile murder that hasn’t gone to trial yet and it should be a slam dunk unless Michael proctor’s corruption is uncovered. Not only that but every other case he’s investigated… it will be another Annie ducan but on a much larger scale. These aren’t drug dealers, we’re talking about murderers going free.
What are you smoking it must be some sort of crack
Biggest aspect for me: There's the dead body of a cop on their front lawn and NO ONE in the house came out when the other cops showed up. Including the cop who lived there never came out! Then he has the basement re-done and ripped up AGAIN, after having it done only 3 years before and then sells this family home almost immediately at $50,000 LESS than asking price. In this housing market? Explain that, Wendy!
We have no ides if the basement was redone.
@@daren32909 My understanding is that carpet was torn up a few days later by family friend.
I would sell the house too because I wouldn't want anything to do with it anymore after that nightmare
@@MarklovesAngels your understanding is incorrect. An insurance estimate was written for the basement. We have no idea if it was ever redone.
@@daren32909 Thanks for the clarification, you're correct. I wonder what the estimate was for?
You don't get dog bites on your arm from getting hit by a car. Please explain that. The only way to get to a dog was through the house he supposedly never entered. A dog with a history of biting people. You don't google "how long to die in cold" randomly at 230 am unless someone is in your yard who you killed and is dying in the snow.
WHY DONT U CARE ABOUT TURTLES VICTIMS??????
@@jHill48 such as?
@@jHill48 .Bounce, doofus.
thank you, no reason for that Google search!!!
right and all the steps on the fit watch and the fact the plough driver saw no body
I was married to a cop and stuff you wouldn’t believe happens at cop parties. I have no idea what happened in this case but wouldn’t be surprised if she’s telling the truth.
@zanpsimer7685
I was married to a police officer too.
He worked local to Canton.
I've been to many home cop parties.
I can say that most were fun, but some had crazy endings.
Later in the night, I witnessed some insane alcohol related fights, sometimes brawls and heated arguments.
This case caught my eye, given the story line of what happened.
Go on…
She didn't do it they did it but framed her for it
I worked in the clerks office in a small town in Indiana. I could not believe the power and corruption within the whole county. And I hate to admit that the power is intoxicating. A man was yelling at me about an order and I told him if he didn’t leave he would be arrested. The deputy on security duty says”did u hear what she said? I will arrest u” Thats when I realized why people get big egos and power trips. Not to mention all of the sexual favors the prosecutor would receive for expunging records. The list goes on and on. I left in 2013.
why frame her, they could've gotten into an alcohol fueled brawl, then he stumbles out, course dog bites & scratches need explaining.
Twenty- plus people left a party with 2 inches of snow on the ground, and didn't see a 6 foot tall, 215 pound guy laying on the front lawn?
Isn’t it such an insult to our intelligence?
The home owner Albert, he didnt even come out 1 time while everyone was there investigating. If i had a dead body on my lawn and there was a lot of people outside investigating and im a cop. I definitely want to see whats going on. The dog was relocated after this. The pool was taken out. The basement had new floors put in. All right after he died 🤔
All your points sure makes it looks like corruption. I feel bad for the officer who died, his family
Wuuut?
You forgot to mention he also very suddenly put his house on the market and sold it for $50k under MV.
@OliviaNile They were almost under water on that house. They refinanced it like a dozen times. They are lucky they got what they got for it. Plus it's kind of a dump. Thats why they are now living in an apartment, they can't afford a house in Canton anymore.
@@darleneclarke1159city of Boston payroll website is public. In 2022 his salary was over 220K.
This Wendy woman clearly DIDN’T look at the evidence or do any preparation before the show. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about and is missing a lot of important information.
Never have I ever seen a defendant beg for evidence from the State to prove innocence … She is 1000% innocent.
Yeah, that is truly rare, for sure! And how do they explain away the testimony of the plow driver? I don't think anyone in that house intended to kill him, but I sure as hell don't think he died because she hit him with her car. The Google search from inside the house about how long it takes for someone to freeze to death? If people don't find that and the plow driver convincing evidence of at the very least reasonable doubt, I don't know what will. I took her and her lawyer's initial statements with a healthy dose of scepticism, because defense attorneys trying cases in the court of public opinions is so extremely in vogue these days. But the more I learn, the more my scepticism is shifting to the other side.
True.
She's not begging to release her cellphone to the prosecution.wierd
She's not begging for the hair dna to be tested.wierd
How do you know someone is innocent without all the evidence?
Happens all the time. Every defense team complains they aren’t getting evidence fast enough. Gives them a reason to appeal.
Karen Read is far from guilty .
Wendy is one of the worst people Vinny could have asked to come on and talk about this case. Child abuse prosecutor? Have several seats Wendy.
I was thinking the same. She’s not going to say any cops are guilty. She think karen hit him accidentally 🤦🏻♂️ that’s her story anyways. Who knows what she actually believes but definitely would never say because she’s all for the commonwealth and the DA Lally that useless jackass
Thank you 🙏 thank you I thought the same …
This lawyer in the pink is insane. She obviously doesn't know anything about this case
That or she got paid to look like a complete incompetent overpaid smug ignorant attorney
She really shows her cards on a recent episodes of Surviving the Survivor. She’s a total loon.
And turtle boy will lie about anything for donations FACTS
What an amazing citizen this Turtle guy is. Awesome job!
Hopefully the Fed's are taking notice and start investigating the Canton PD and that State Trooper.
If it wasnt for Aidan Kearney aka Turtleboy, nothing about this case would have ever made it this far into the world!!!!!!
So true!! I’m from Ireland and just finding out about it now because of him, I’m in deep now 😅
@@laurenquigley6666 Hello there in Ireland! You know a case has gone wild, when people from other countries are following it!
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Idiots. Did they look at all the evidence? Glass from Johns champayne glass that he was holding was in her bumper. Did cops plant that too?
Karen is extremely lucky to have such dedicated and wonderful lawyers in addition to the terrific supporters.
Meaning? @@user-ii2uh1xq7b
This case needs to continue to get national attention so that true justice can be brought to this case...If not, the local PD and court system may bury the truth and innocent woman will go to jail for this heinous murder and cover-up!!! DEMAND JUSTICE FOR KAREN READ!!!
It has 😊
MOST DEFINITELY!!!!!
Claiming innocence and haven’t even heard the evidence! What a joke!
Agreed! The main cop who is accused in this case is an old school cop that is probably used to "laying down the law" and there being no cameras to capture it. It used to be really easy to cover up stuff as a police officer. Now it's not so easy to get away with. Let's hope this one actually is exposed.
Something is rotten in the state of Massachusets.
Yes. It's the fact anyone is giving Aidan Kearney this much credibility.
He’s a Worcester knucklehead who probably supported Diehl.
But he’s not wrong about his suspicions in this case.
This is an interesting case, and I'm going to follow it.
Vinnie is right about Dedham. I'm glad her supporters were there.
Anyone who claims to be a law and order conservative should support anyone facing injustice, no matter what their race is
Or what there name is
Or political affiliation.
You do not get that type of blunt force trauma to the head when doing a three point turn in a residential neighborhood. FREE KAREN READ! Thank you Court TV for a great deep dive 🤍
@@fionag308 we can agree to disagree 🥰
@@fionag308 “at 20 mph there is a 2.5 percent chance they will be killed.” I’m in school for forensic pathology. Anyone who disagrees with me this point I’m assuming is just supporters of the Alberts. I know my stuff. No one can try to change my mind. We’re all entitled to our own opinion. I don’t understand why anyone has to start beef with it. Just leave your opinion to yourself. Didn’t your mom or guardian ever teach you if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything at all? Ya apparently they didn’t.
This poor woman never got the chance to mourn the person she loved.
Is that why she has done nonstop character assissination of him in every interview?
He never got to help himself after she ran him over and took off. Imagine being injured and die freezing to death. Nobody knowing you are there except her. Karen Reed
Wendy, I think you’re out of touch and many people do actually think Karen is innocent.
She hurt her reputation by not looking at the autopsy photos... the wounds do not match getting backed into.... but do getting mauled by a German Shepard and getting a beating.
@@petergrant9259 Why did the defense oppose the prosecution from seeing the dog records?
5/25 records animal control impounded.
6/9 commonwealth motion to inspect and copy impounded records. 06/21/2023 Opposition to Motion to Inspect and Copy Impounded Records from the Town of Canton
The medical examiner said "superficial abrasions" not bite, not puncture wounds "abrasion is a superficial rub or wearing off of the skin, usually caused by a scrape or a brush burn. Abrasions are usually minor injuries"
@@petergrant9259 it's crazy we are supposed to believe this huge guy was absolutely battered from head to toe, black eyes, head lacerations, dog bites etc. All cause by a car whose only damage was to a tail light? Ok sure. Right.
This case is disturbing on so many levels!
My theory and a lot of others:there was a beef between John O’Keefe and someone in that house. He was lured to the party for purpose of roughing him up, teaching him a lesson (“Hey John, come on ovah for a couple of pops”). I’m sure everybody was shitfaced and amped up and O’Keefe fought back and it got ugly. He had a head wound, probably whacked him with a weight or something, dog got sicced on him, who knows, but it went too far. Then the coverup started. The investigation was total SHAM! Remember, there is NOTHING worse than dirty cops! And I’m pro cop, law and order. But come on, did you see the photos of his wounds? There’s multiple people that were in that house that know what happened. All I can think about is if it was my daughter who was accused.
I don't think he lured there personally. I think it was coincidence he bumped into someone he had beef with and it went south quickly.
@@bobc596 Maybe, but I thought I heard that McCabe or somebody was texting him to come over. Whatever, but things definitely went south.
@retepmo6534 she did text him and said to park behind her in the driveway. I think she had no idea something like this was going to happen. She's definitely guilty of helping cover up the crime though, no doubt.
2 medical professionals who conducted the autopsy said they found no evidence of a fight?
@@kidchecktherhyme4695 Medical examiners have to work within the guidelines of the incident report the police give them. If the body was checked in as an auto collision they work within that. If an examiner has a different opinion than police on cause of death, the police usually get their way in most East Coast states. Philly is the same exact way. Cops are a major part of the medical examiner process and are not unbiased always.
Wendy Murphy obviously hasn't looked at the evidence.
She can be so biased it’s ridiculous
She should be embarrassed.
What’s wrong with you? My gawd
Wendy Murphy keeping her pay Lmao
She doesn't know the complete story. There are many, many details to this story. The details are still coming out.
She doesn't have all facts!
I wish Vinny would let him finish his sentence
Exactly! If he had kept his 😴 introduction shorter, there would've been more time for Turtleboy.
Lol I thought the same thing, appeared he was a little bit annoyed by him 😂
Vinnie knows they only have so many minutes for the interview. He's actually trying to get as much out there as possible. Even TB stated that he could go on all day long.
If she watched him go into the house, how could she think she hit him?
She was super drunk and does not remember anything.
@@TRUTHbomb2.0 If going back to the scene didn't jog her memory that morning it's pretty unlikely she can remember now. Convenient too.
Vinne you are the man to leave it all on the table I respect that 100 percent
That turtleboy character is spot on with this case. The states case makes absolutely no sense & the evidence doesn't seem to add up to a pedestrian hit by a vehicle. The 2:27am google search "hos long to die in cold" is telling but then you find out that the Boston cop whose house the dead Boston cop was found at, never came outside during the investigation!! Then you have the taillight that was broken on camera at 5 something in the a.m. added to the missing 2 minutes of library video(the precise 2 minutes when Karen would've driven by) on top of the autopsy photos that basically eliminate any hit by car theories & this case should never see trial. The DA in this case is incompetent & should resign immediately.
This case is about a man who lost his life.
This case in not about a so called activists called Turtle Boy. Look up his history. His story is all based on suppositions. He was not at the party. He is not a qualified regarding looking into this harrowing case.
Vinnie stay away from this trouble maker. He can turn in the blink of an eye.
If you believe TB is wrong, you’re soon gonna have to apologize and hide in shame and embarrassment
But, I have some questions for you. I don't have a dog in this fight, just to be clear, I only watch these kinds of shows, because I love head scrathers. So, to my questions.
1. Do you think, that a cop can just start investigating, or collecting evidence, and carry on for himself, without a direct order from the lead detective?
2, Do you think, that any lead detective will let a half, or totally drunk cop start any investigations, especially when he is himself at the scene of the accident/murder?
3. If you were the lead detective, would you not have told those under you, to stay out of view. To keep a very low profile, and most importantly to not get involved in the case? Sort of like a doctor won't be allowed to operate on his wife, but stand helpless outside, and out of the way.
4. I need some more information. Such as, pictures of the scene of the incident, the weather forecast for that day. We know it must've been dark. We suspect everybody was drinking, and had been drinking quite a lot. I have been in that condition in my young days, and I never went to look for anyone who didn't come in, I just carried on for myself.
5. How quickly did the snow cover his body?
6. Was the dog outside, and did it unobserved torture the man lying in the snow, or did it try to get the man up? Is it a vicious dog, or friendly. If it was vicious, then it was about time to get rid of it. If it thought it was just playing with a toy doll, who knows?
So, that's it for now. More pressing questions will certainly continue to pop up in my head, and then I will ask you more. You may be knowing more than me.
@@TheSybil47 Trooper Proctor IS the lead investigator. He was in charge. The drunk stuff you mentions is not part of this case. As for underlings to stay out of view, you'd have to be more specific because none of that applies to this either.
Jen called John several times as well as texted him, That's been proven forensically. The Defense contends these attempts at communication took place in a panic AFTER John was incapacitated to make it look as though he never made it inside (even though Apple Health data show he was inside and went up and down stairs)
Only 2" of snow had fallen when his body was "discovered". No evidence except John's cell phone was found by the search team at that time. However, after 12 MORE inches of snow had fallen at the scene, the Trooper Proctor-directed team found broken taillight pieces ON TOP of the snow.
The dog was always inside. The dog had already sent several people to the ER for bites. A fact that the Prosecution went to great lengths to hide (hiding Animal Control reports). As soon as the Alberts (homeowners) were named as possible culprits, the dog all but vanished and no one knows where it is.
@@ByronTexas Good grief! If this come to trial, it's gonna be a trial like no other ever seen. I just hope the defense attorneys don't carry on with their aggressive voices. The Jury can easily get tired of all the anger. In fac,t a non-aggressive approach makes one's words stand out more clearly. Thanks for all the information.
I love Vinny. He is fantastic! Could watch Court TV all day fr. 💯
It is so sad they are trying to frame her for their crime! She is innocent! You have our support in Philly!
Great job interviewing Turtleboy and great job Turtleboy! Karen Read should've been out of this mess a long time ago with the lack of evidence there. Turtleboy has brought a huge spotlight on this case with all the great work he's done
Hmmm.. Wendy sounds like she doesn’t want to make waves with her colleagues. Ask an out of state attorney instead.
Just adore Vinny and the team. Thank you for informing the public! Now that I actually heard Karen's defense, I'm shocked she's being charged
Wendy may be good at her job, but she is clearly misinformed about this case. I get she is trying to be unbiased but there is absolutely no way Karen Read struck John.
The defense has facts, and the prosecution have a lack of.
Edit: (2 months later) I take that back she absolutely blows at her job…..
We need to reign in these rogue DAs. Enough is enough
I think Karen is innocent and the dirty cops killed him.
The whole dirty meathead family.. is responsible for his death.
Wendy clearly hasn’t followed this case, she should follow up on the WHOLE situation before having an opinion like that! Great job Turtleboy, I’m proud of you, you have done an outstanding job.
Wendy who???
She is 100% innocent. Wendy Murphy is one of the most uninformed people I’ve see comment on this case. Maybe she should stick to tik tok.
its actually embarrasing how little she knows about this case yet feels able to talk absolute nonsense about it , im ashamed for her
“Didn’t see him because he was covered in snow” 1 INCH of snow.
What a joke Wendy, do better
Correct. The woman is a moron who clearly has not looked at any evidence but is still opining on the subject.
Shame on her.
The lady in the pink is an idiot none of these injuries are consistent with a car
Thank you Vinnie! The truth needs to be told & the people responsible need to be held accountable. As for the female attorney, please have one that has read the documents & knows the case. Karen Read is 100% innocent!!
I’m glad you posted. I’m 5 minutes in, and I bet you she’s innocent. I was married to a police officer (although he would never do anything like this) and the new ones cover up little things all the time. I can’t imagine if it was a death.
Karen isn’t 100% innocent. Did she kill him, au don’t know. Nobody can place him inside which is a problem for her team.
His APPLE Health Data show him inside the house and going up and down three flights of stairs
@@ByronTexas no it doesn’t. The time of the health data is before they are in front of the house. At least get the basic facts correct people
@@daren32909 John OKeefe's health data? John arrived at 12:20am. Apple Health recorded 80 steps taken from 12:21am to 12:24am. 200 feet of distance and three floors of elevation change (inside a three story house). Want to apologize now?
Great job, Aidan and defence team. You got out a lot of the new information. Vinnie seemed very shocked by it, as we all are.
What's the deal with Wendy? She sounds like she's been asked to do a book report in front of the class and she's only read the back cover.
Homework is hard for some people.
Aiden is repulsive.
I think she's talking out of the side of her neck by saying Karen hit him accidentally! She needs not add anymore of her ridiculous and utterly mistaken theories on ANYONE'S account!
That is how I felt as well about Wendy!
Or she only saw the prosecutions front cover! A whole lotta bark, not a lotta bite
This so-called independent mind Wendy Murphy is not so independent. There's some very serious questions that are not being answered. And every time, attorneys don't like hearing the potential cover-up from police. They call it a conspiracy. She clearly did not look at ALL of the evidence, is incompetent or in on it.
Why don't they get experts who look at the case? That attorney believes Karen may have done this, and he hit his head on the driveway, and the reason he wasn't seen was he was covered in snow.
There was less than 2 inches of snow, and he wasn't near the driveway. As an expert attorney she should understand blood evidence.. none.
Well, there was plenty, but they moved him. There was no blood where he was found.
She obviously didn't see the autopsy photos. Maybe she should have looked at those.
The real snow came later that day. At 6 pm, there was 1 1/2 feet where John's body was found. That's when they found his shoe and the taillight. At 6am, he had 1 shoe. They found it within the area already searched in 1 inch of snow. Searched using leaf blowers.
I dont understand why a so-called expert would give an opinion to a case she has no clue about.
Since her reasons for believing Karen could have done it... is based on wrong information, maybe she should give another opinion looks at the facts of the case. She had no clue where his body was found or where the state said he was hit. Not anywhere near the driveway. He was on the grass covered with very little snow.. a dusting maybe??
The autopsy photos alone exonerate her.
Why is Karen refusing to give her phone data??????!??
@@bestPI-Ever they have it.
@@meloneyparker they have turtle boy pedophile records???? No mass school board covered that up. Do your research
@@meloneyparker support your local PEDO 🖕
This story is a complete cover up it is ludicrous that this woman is being chargec
Once the cell phone data/texts, from the occupants in the house at the time, are released, they'll be indictments flying
Feds aren't investigating murder. It isn't federal murder. Who would be indicting whom? The person in the house who voluntarily gave her phone is state witness. No phones are being released.
This whole thing is wild! I truly believe she's framed.
Vinnie is soooooo frustrating to watch. He should not be allowed to conduct interviews because he doesn’t allow people to speak before he interrupts and shifts the conversation in another direction. Ffs let the person finish
Honestly I agree but think he’s on time limits because these segments are played on TV.
As someone coming into this case just now learning about it I like to listen to both sides and not a single shred of evidence in this case points to her killing him if anything the only people that look guilty are the people that were in that house. There is so much reasonable doubt in this Case that it should have NEVER even been brought to trial.
If you look at a lot of the evidence you can already tell that this case is fishy. Just look at all of It together. The first wrong thing is that none of the people in the house came outside when the Police showed up to investigate the Dead cop in the driveway. Not even just that she doesn't have a broken tail light, there is no blood in the driveway, there's no blood on her car. There is also the dog bite that needs to be put into question. And also the Google search at 2 o'clock in the morning about how long does it take a body to die in the cold. But also why is the prosecution fighting so hard to prevent the defense from getting phone evidence from people that were at the crime scene? And then speaking on phone evidence how is it possible that she hit him but his phone is showing movement after she dropped him off. Movement that looks like someone walking into a house and around the house. Sounds to me like multiple persons are hiding a lot of things that need to come to light.
Also I'm sure the lady you brought on to the show is a very smart woman but she clearly has no idea what she is talking about and has not looked into this case to understand why people have the point of view they are taking.
This lady "independent mind" attorney is totally in on it, because you can't be that ignorant to the blatant facts
she's just licking the booty of all her saturnalia robe wearing overlords.
Facts without a trial? Or maybe she has access to all the court filings. She is a well respected attorney.
You Nailed it. She was not independent at all and added no value to the show. If he wanted to balance the show he should have had someone from the prosecutors office or one of the alberts on the show. And if you are going to have an “independent” then it should be an actual independent, not someone who declares she is guilty and then refrains from discussing any theories or evidence. I actually would rather have heard from someone who thinks Karen did it make cogent arguments and rebut the points the defense attorneys raised. Convince us.
theres a new article bout her that came out today n shes dumb af
She should get a drunk driving charge 😂
Wow, Wendy Murphy is a law professor? I hope she prepares better for her lectures than she did for this interview, because her ignorance regarding the facts of the case is incredible. Or is she just so incredibly pro-prosecution that she is blind to the facts?
People absolutely believe that Karen is innocent - I haven’t seen or heard anybody who is speaking out against this prosecution that is saying she was overcharged or that it was just an accident. There is not one convincing piece of evidence to indicate she is guilty - the damage to her vehicle doesn’t match up and is also explained through another incident that is shown on surveillance video, the injuries found at autopsy don’t match up with the charges, and those injuries, or just one small part of the evidence that she wasn’t responsible: the dog bites, the activity tracker, the snowplow driver, and then there’s the number of things that are sufficient to raise reasonable doubt, such as the Internet searches, the dog disappearing, the house suddenly being dumped, etc.
Short of the prosecution having surveillance video that shows that she hit him and then a dog mauled him while he was lying on the ground - which would surely have to be disclosed by this time , and the defence would be seeking a plea bargain - I don’t see where the prosecution has a hope in hell of conviction.
I wouldn't want wendy for my attorney as for damn sure💯
I cannot believe this even got to court! This whole case stinks! Shes innocent. Some trooper hours after the death says "O look I found some of her tail light near the scene, it must have broken when she hit him" - Karen Read's ring camera shows her clipping her boyfriend's car as she is pulling out of her own driveway. There needs to be something done about the corrupters in this!! I hope she survives this!
I'm not to familiar with this case but if the cop planted the tail light pieces at the crime scene then wouldn't he of been on the camera picking the pieces up at O'Keefes house????
Either way I definitely see alot of funny business in this case. That was the only thing that had me wondering is the tail light pieces, but so far what I've read and listened to looks like a snowball of corruption. Massachusetts is known for cop corruption and especially in little rinky dinky Norfolk
SHOUTOUT TURTLEBOY FOR HIS AMAZING JOURNALISM AND COURT TV FOR GIVING THE STORY AND HARD WORK TB PUT IN FURTHER ATTENTION! 🤞🏼🐢🐢🐢🐢
I believed turtleboy for about one second till I did some research ..f full of malarkey
Never heard of him but will definitely check him out
@@ezrc9294name one thing he got wrong. I’ll wait.
@@ezrc9294I agree - he’s a very vindictive, underhanded shyster IMO. Uses innuendo and makes ad hominem attacks rather than sticking to verifiable evidence.
That said, I will wait for evidence to come out at trial before declaring KR either definitely guilty or absolutely innocent. The prosecution must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt to an unbiased jury. Just because I dislike TB doesn’t say anything either way about KR’s case.
@@goosebump801 Yup I am 50 50 now, more info needed
Wait, does Wendy know one single detail about this case??? How can she sit there with that opinion with the evidence? She should be ashamed.
Wow! What a case!
Thank you for covering this and getting it to a larger audience. I’ve been following since I heard about Turtleboy and was told he had great insight into the case. I went down a rabbit hole of his videos and I appreciate him for fighting to get the truth out. Her defense attorneys are fantastic and I hope more media picks up this story.
LISTEN to the people you are interviewing VINNY...you do not hear....you interrupt him.
This case STINKS and I’m so glad she has capable attorneys that believe her.
They believe the evidence which proves their client is factually innocent
Did Wendy Murphy do any show prep??
Clearly not.
Zero
0 clue
Vinnie you’re Awesome
He's literally the worst I've ever seen. Let's talk about planting evidence and Google searches and dog bites and Canton connections. Instead he worried about feelings of family members ,where's turtleboy from, booing duggal. Let's get into the nitty gritty! Dudes a clown
Shameful they are booing the deceased family members
👏 𝗣𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗹𝘆! Doesn't matter that a f𝖺𝗆𝗂𝗅𝗒's in 𝖺𝗀𝗈𝗇𝗒; keep booing & harassing them, simply because what they believe happened to their beloved son doesn't fit your narrative, TB.
@@EC-dz3fb Exactly 🙌🏻
They weren’t booing family members.
Fellow Officers killed this officer. A fellow officers sister at the party had on her phone How Long It took Someone To Freeze To Die.
“Hos long to die in cold”
But why would his comrades murder a fellow officer? You can't make baseless statements without at least providing proof there was a reason they'd kill him. Maybe he just fell down drunk and froze in the snow and the party goers discovered him and panicked then Google searched how long it takes to freeze to death trying to work out what happened.
Exactly how in the world. Sooo is she involved with a friend or is she married and her husband killed him?? Hmmm
Very suspicious. And his phone showed many steps going up and down stairs.. and that house was a three story house when they say he was run over by the car.
Turtle boy has done an amazing job and Karen will be set free!
Vinnie....you ask the guest (turtleboy)questions and then you shut him down! Just stop!!😝
Staaaap it 😅
You stop, the guy is a complete fool and lied several times about facts.
It’s Vinnie’s show
@@jjthomas3241which facts did he lie about?
On tv is quite important not to talk about what you can’t prove. Vinnie was right, the guy can say it whatever on UA-cam , but tv it might get the with legal consequences.
Wendy Murphy ~?!!!!People are pissed off because she is INNOCENT! Not for being over-charged... Clearly not read up on this case AT ALL!
She's clueless
Being a police officer is a hard job. I have been falsely accused in court. I have been falsely arrested. But that doesnt mean Karen Read didnt hit her boyfriend.
it's REALLY important to have a well functioning judiciary system
Vinnie.... It isn't "Turtleboy & his followers" who believe Karen Read is innocent, it's local residents like myself.
Full disclosure I am not a fan of Turtleboy. At all. Not even a little bit. But I respect the fact he brought this cover up to national attention.
So to say it's "Turtleboy & his followers" is quite insulting. Anyone who reads the conflicting evidence can clearly see Karen Read did not murder John O'Keefe.
O'Keefe entered the home. Karen went home to Mansfield, as seen on many videos O'Keefe was murdered inside the Albert home.
Had Turtle boy not brought it to the attention of the media, locals would be wanting her head on a platter for killing a cop.
Well said
Karen did not go to Mansfield. She went to John's house about 2 miles from the McCables house.m Which her backing out of his garage at 4:30 that morning.
@@darleneclarke1159I was under the impression she went home to Mansfield but if she did go to O'Keefe's home, he lived 10 miles away not 2 miles away.
I'm local and she's guilty as sin.
I want to see the forensics
So doesn't the defense!
So does everyone but the state
@@bobc596 Indeed!
A medical examiner later determined that O'Keefe suffered multiple skull fractures, consistent with blunt-force trauma that led to bleeding in the brain. He also had two swollen black eyes, several abrasions on his right arm as well and blood around his nose and mouth.
I don't know, man. How fast can she go in the driveway that does this much damage?
Also, he's wearing a coat or jacket. The driveway is covered in snow. How in the world does he get those cuts on his arm?
Very strange.
Your commentary is insightful!
David Yanetti and Alan Jackson WE LOVE YOU!
The Real perpetrators MUST be brought to Justice. If this is a Cover up, how will they walk this back. F.B.I. do your job. Get those indictments.
I'm so glad you had "Turtle Boy" on you're show. I too watched what was being said especially his injuries aren't true. I started commenting & someone sent me a reply with only one 2 words"Turtle Boy' & I didn't know what it meant. I goggled it & found this guy & that God bc he's not afraid to speak the truth. I live in a City in Ontario but watch all 🇺🇸 Court & Crime News & I can't wait until Karen Reid walks out to of Court & those responsible get indited. He was murdered in that house & what a huge house on a cops income! Ontario, 🇨🇦 ❤ Love Court TV & everyone working there! 😊
Thany you tb. Great job 😊😊
If she is guilty, she's guilty. No matter what her supporters say. They do not know exactly what is going on. How do we know that Karen wasn't involved in a conspiracy against her boyfriend? She could've been the fall guy in the plot against her boyfriend. Who knows???
Nobody knows and Im sure we will find out as this case progresses.
Turtleboy bringing up his political beliefs to prove that he was pro-police is just ridiculous. I understand that he interested in proving Karen's innocence and it is good that people stand up for what they believe.
What sickens me is that they're booing and cheering as if they're at a football game. Turtleboy is just throwing around disrespectful names based on his opinion while doing an interview with CourtTV. So glad he got put in his place by Vinnie. I cannot stand Turtleboy and Im trying to figure out why they interviewed him instead of more prominent figures.
Exactly!
The guy makes up sources & has no morals. He wants people to believe that the Canton PD, Boston PD, medical examiner, MA State Police, & the FBI are colluding with the DA.
If that level of interagency cooperation worked, all of this country's problems would be solved.
Don’t watch then. Simple
Jesus, look at all those hysterics booing people they believe are in on "the coverup".
It's really disturbing what's happening in this case.
That man is sharp as a whip!
Wendy girl, what are you drinking? 😅
I saw pictures. No way a car did alllll that at that speed. No way.
I support Karen Read from South Africa
From a fellow South African, me too!🇿🇦
I had the opportunity to speak with Karen's father briefly after the last court date. That man knows without a doubt his daughter is innocent
@BretTheBrat I went to a public hearing at a public courthouse, the same one you came all the way down from maine to attend. I know you're not smart, but that's far from stalking Bret Killoran
The prosecution in this case is reminding me of of the prosecution in the Betsy Faria case.
Hopefully it doesn't take as long to get real justice in this case
love you Vinnie!
Alcohol failed both of them.
Car bumpers don't leave DOG BITES.
It wasn't a dog bite.
that has not been determined.@@VintageRed411
I also disagree with Wendy’s take on all of this.
The nail on the head was what the one guy said, if that was anyone else or you or me, that house and everyone in it would of been investigated much differently from the start
Beautiful. Here it comes. Justice for Karen and John. Free Karen Read! Get the real killers. Canton residence, take your town back from the corrupt❤️🙏❤️ this makes me so happy I could cry. She deserves to live her life a free women
Why haven't they shared the raw data from Jens phone then? All I've seen in court documents is a cropped version of the full report. We are missing suspended data search files. Most of us use the same browser from the last time we searched. Thus reactivating the "folder times" from suspended data. (Unless you opened a new window.)
In actuality, as stated in Jens interview with police, she even said that Karen asked her how long to die in cold.
So if she typed it for Karen, and used a browser window previously open, it can be included with the times of previous searches.
That is why we need the raw information. Not just a cropped part.
Once I began to pick up on the cherry picking, and obtained the entirety of the publically available case files, I noticed many inconsistencies and instances of failure to inclue the key parts of their experts reports.
I once thought Karen was innocent. Then I started to highlight things that don't add up. There are many. These lawyers talk a good game and that's why they are big bucks.
But when you scratch the surface, it's gritty.
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b it really does seem to be that way.
The newly released documents from the Commonwealth have some bombshells. They have computer forensics from her Lexus that show Karen reversed (60 feet at 20-something miles per hour if i remember correctly.)
New DNA shows John O'Keefe's DNA has been found on the plastic particles embedded into John's clothes DNA found on the tail light itself.
This is huge.
you can call me turtle boy😅😂😂
I'm Turtleboy
Dating, working and making friends is getting more and more dangerous.
Great job turtle boy....And I'm not liking how he keeps shutting you down with "let me ask you this"..
Was the last interviewee talking about the same case? She needs to change professions. She did not seem prepared. And to do the interview was negligent. And the defence has the upper hand because of the evidence.
How come nobody thinks the court tv host looks like Bryan Kohberger
Karen’s lawyers are really good. Despite what you might think of her guilt or innocence - they are good and solid
When first shown on the news, his body was found on the side of the road, in the snow, not on the lawn. Where has 'on their front lawn' come from, all of a sudden?
The news report was rushed, they got key details wrong in initial reporting. He was found 10 feet from the road on the front lawn.
Often times immediate news reporting on crime stories like this get their information through their “police sources”. This is why it’s interesting to watch all the immediate reporting on this case because it gives you an idea of how the conspirators, or real perpetrators, wanted this story framed to the public. Since news reporting doesn’t have the strict thresholds and guidelines that a police report or court document do, you can get a true sense of the narrative shaping the police or the state are doing, because they’re not required to back up what they relay to the news with any facts or evidence. The amount this story has changed and the number of times the goalposts have moved from the initial reporting on it is enlightening. Certainly not the trend you see in an honest, transparent and well-founded prosecution.
This case is corruption.
It's was corrupt when he lost his teacher job. Doing ya know with underage girls. Turtle boy FOR PRISON
@@bestPI-Ever Go away Krusty. Don't you have kids to take care of:? Oh, wait.....
Wendy if he hit his head on the driveway, how did he end up way over by the hydrant?
You have NO idea what you’re talking about right from the start.
Vinny, you need attorneys who are more up to date on facts and someone who doesn’t practice In Massachusetts. Wendy is being careful (and wrong) because she has to work with DA’s.
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Heading over to turtle boys youtube
Good decision
@@TurtleboyLive
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@@TurtleboyLiveenjoy watching pedofiles
@@TurtleboyLivewhy are you not a teacher anymore?????????
@@jHill48 No donos
In today’s forensic world, they have the body and the “suspect car” that allegedly hit him so how are they unable to prove if he was hit by this car? I’d want independent pathologists performing another autopsy if I was in the hot seat and this was a police coverup. I may have missed this information while fighting insomnia and trying to fall asleep with the volume low. I’m not going to rewatch so I’d appreciate the answer if anybody knows.
That’s exactly what I’m saying! On top of that, them claiming that the 2:27 Google search of how long to die in the cold by one of the women at the party actually happened later in the morning because it was done using the same tab as an earlier search about basketball is blatantly false. If you open a Google search tab and search two different things at two separate times within the same tab, Google time stamps each search individually. I literally just tested it on my iPad. You just have to click Google settings in the top right corner of the Google page and open up your search history. If I could post a picture to prove it I would.