😊 I used to live in Germany, the UK, Japan and Saudi Arabia and have traveled a lot of other places. While I love the US, I do realize that 95.2% of the rest of the world uses the metric system. Haha ❤️🇺🇸🇸🇪 Also, 40% of my viewers are outside the US so love to you all! 🥰
@@goingelectric7826 Actually.. USA also uses the metric system! But then they convert it to some arbitrary strange unit... (yes, US Customary unit is DEFINED by the Metric!)
Daniel, I love how personable you are in your videos. It’s as if I was sitting across a table having coffee with you. Thanks for, yet again, another very enjoyable video.
Thank you for that very kind feedback. I actually like this side of UA-cam a lot where we can all chat back and forth. When I film my videos I do actually feel like I’m talking directly to everyone watching. I like to think about things people might be curious about - and things I’ve chatted about with people across the US and Canada in person (and elsewhere via various Tesla groups online) - and then I try to address the topics in ways people can relate to. As the world starts going electric, it’s the person-to-person conversations that’ll make it all that much easier (and less freaky!). 😃
Thank you for the very kind feedback. I used to live in the UK, Germany, Japan and Saudi Arabia and I have traveled around good chunks of the planet so I’m always happy to add the metric system. A good 40% of my viewers are outside the United States and so I feel my videos can be more valuable to them if I do some of the conversions for them. 😃
Congrats on your M3. An even more efficient car than the Y! Jealous! Glad you enjoyed the video. Working on my Monument Valley video at this exact moment. Haha
Really appreciate you referencing the source of the electricity. As you say, sometimes you will do what you need to do to make a trip work (and I am planing a long trip soon and, at some points, will charge where ever I can charge, but, for most of us, the point of driving an EV is not just to power a car with electricity; it's to power a car with clean electricity.
Thanks for reaching out. Definitely, I think the goal for many of us is to power our cars with clean electricity, but sometimes practicality and the imperfections of generating electricity in the middle of nowhere get in the way. Looking forward to the day when these parts of the continent have a good amount of wind, solar, and geothermal electricity + battery storage to power local communities and the EVs passing through. 😃
Thank you for the great video. I got my model Y 2 months ago, and I have been learning about my car as much as I can. I loved the info you shared about driving below the speed limit to extend the range. Look forward to the next video!
Thanks for reaching out and for the great feedback. 🙏 I try to produce videos on topics that I don’t find a lot of content online about. Stuff that can be very practical and help people with real world EV ownership. As for driving slow, it can be a pain in the butt but it can also be a total lifesaver sometimes. If I’m going to go a super long distance and push the range in my car, I usually drive at the speed limit or just below for a good chunk of the first part of the trip until it becomes super apparent that I’ve got enough range in the battery and then I hit the accelerator and speed up for the rest of it. Also, the navigation trip planner battery status estimation is quite accurate although I have seen some cases in colder weather or bad weather where I arrived with 10 to 15% less battery charge than originally estimated. Because of that, in colder or worse weather I really try to avoid a route if it shows me arriving with less than 15 or 20% battery charge. But if I can’t avoid it, I just go quite slow for the first half of the trip until I can guarantee I have enough battery charge to make it the rest of the way. I have driven 40,000 miles in 14 months and that method has worked out really well for me. As for a spare tire: I do not have one. I do drive with a 12 V tire pump and tire repair goo. I use the 12 V tire pump somewhat frequently to make sure tire pressure is at 42 psi. I haven’t had to use the tire goo yet (not sure if that even works). I did drive over a razor blade when I was in Miami last winter and that required a full tire replacement. Fortunately I was able to let my car sit on the side of the road for two days until Tesla Mobile repair was able to come out and get me a new tire. I will be driving from San Francisco to Los Angeles next week and then Los Angeles to Dallas the week after and then up to Chicago the week after that and then back to California in January. Hopefully I don’t get any flats! 🤞 Maybe I should buy one of those Tesla spare tires along the way!
Yay! Congrats! With a little planning - and getting a feel for what kind of efficiency you can get at which speeds and in which environmental conditions - you can go pretty much anywhere you want. ESPECIALLY if you’re willing to drive slow in a pinch. Good luck!!
Thanks for the very kind feedback! 🙏 The trailer was a lot of fun to make and I kept laughing as I was putting it together. “Such drama, Daniel!” Haha… Best of luck on any future road trips and no shame driving slow if you have to. :)
I live in Maine, but Death Valley is one of my favorite places in the world. Planning on taking a cross country trip once my Model Y is delivered and will most definitely be stopping in DV. The state park RV sites next to The Ranch at Death Valley has hookups and I believe runs off the same solar array as The Ranch does, if you're looking for something more environmentally friendly.
Thanks for reaching out. I will definitely have to look into that next time I’m in Death Valley. I have a NEMA 14-50 adapter now so I’m ready for the RV parks!! 🥰🏜🌵 Also, I spent a couple weeks in Maine driving around in my Y last May and I loved it. New Hampshire into Maine along Highway 2 to Moosehead Lake to Van Buren on Highway 1 up to the Canada border then down to the coast along the boarder and into Bar Harbor, Bangor, Augusta and Kittery/Portsmouth. Such a lovely state.
Another great video & info! We were in Denver last winter and my “cold” calculations were off a bit heading back to SoCal, as we rolled into Trinidad CO with 4% 🔋 … 😂🤣 Wife wasn’t laughing! 🤷🏻♂️ … Good job again! 👍🏼
I tell ya, those cold days will getcha every time! I’m observing that cold morning Supercharhing pre-conditioning will lower (increase) my Wh/mi efficiency by about 30% during a drive from morning-start to first Supercharge. It tends to be half (less than) that during subsequent Supercharges along a continued route. So instead of 300-330Wh/mi I typically see something in the 390-400Wh/mi for the first 150mi. Because of that, when I look at the Navigation/Trip arrival estimate, I typically subtract 10-15% and then make sure I have something like 20-25% estimated SoC before getting on the road. OTHERWISE, I just need to drive slow to that first Supercharger. I feel like I’m becoming quite the expert in all this. Haha.
I really enjoyed making this video. For a brief moment I thought about just doing road trip videos for the rest of my life. But then I realized I would make more money at my current job. Or any job! Ha ha. Thanks for watching!
@@goingelectric7826you are so welcome! Oh wow that sounds like a fun trip getting stuck in a blizzard doesn't sound so fun though. Glad you made it through!
Thanks for the photo compliments. It was lovely shooting this video! 😃 The good news is that if people are willing to go a bit out of the way and drive out to Beatty, NV to Supercharge, then virtually any route you can take through the park from Lone Pine, Inyokern or Baker is super doable. If you take the northern route from Lone Pine and add Badwater and Artist's Palette before going into Beatty, it's something like 210 total miles, but also very manageable, even on a hot day with the air-conditioner on as long as you drive around the speed limit especially since you get such great regen coming down the backside of those mountains. Thanks for reaching out!
I wish Tesla will put Superchargers at all National Park in the U.S and Canada along with Starlink internet satellite for internet access at the superchargers.
That would be totally amazing. I have a feeling the federal government would not allow Tesla branded Superchargers in their parks until Tesla opened up charging to all electric vehicles. But at least a bunch of DC fast chargers and J1772s.
Great video! Thanks Daniel! BTW when my car (Joules) loses cell service, voice commands stop working. There are plenty of places without cell coverage here in southwest New Mexico. Funny thing happened. I was driving to a nearby town named "Cliff". It was almost the only town on the road. I asked Joules to navigate to "Cliff" to get an ETA and it decided I wanted to go to a place called "Cliff House" which is 1,000 miles away near San Francisco.
Thank you for the super nice complement! It’s pretty crazy how all of our devices and vehicles are so dependent on Internet connections and cell phone service these days. Not much on board mapping happening. Haha. I was in New Mexico for several weeks a couple months back. It was super super lovely. Las Cruces, White Sands, Ruidoso, Taos, Santa Fe and the mountains and deserts all in between. 🥰
Thanks!! I was actually laughing quite a bit when I was editing it all together and just thought, “THIS IS SO DRAMATIC!!!” Haha… I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! 🙏
Thank you! Energy capacity is still quite a bit less in a Tesla Model Y or nearly any EV for that matter compared to a gasoline car but with a little bit of planning we can go virtually anywhere. My hope is that people are able to leverage the information in this video to other national parks or distant places in their own lives. Good luck!
I was laughing quite a bit when I was editing that little video together. (I actually make all these videos on my iPhone!) Especially as I got to the end with that rapid succession of photos, I was like, "Daniel, SUCH DRAMA!!!" Hahah 🤣
Great video Daniel! You would think that someone would put up solar panels so charging would be such a hassle. All that sun…just makes sense, then no one would have to worry about running out of electrons.
That is certainly true. I imagine there are some complications with development in national parks, even for alternative energy. But at a bare minimum getting Superchargers on the border of national parks, similar to gas stations, would be very beneficial for having clean powered vehicles traveling through those parks. And if a gas station is in a national park, there’s no reason a DC fast charger also should not be there.
Thanks! 🙏 Pushing my Y’s range was actually a lot of fun. I drove through Monument Valley along the Arizona-Utah border a couple days back and I’ll be making a video about that in the next couple weeks. 🏜
A great video. Bottom line is that Death Valley in an EV is a risky proposition that demands a good deal of planning. Add to that the lack of connectivity, this can be dangerous if you don't think this through and act responsibly.
Definitely. And at a bare minimum, the park is super doable with a fair amount of inconvenience by driving to any of the three superchargers on the periphery or by booking a destination charger hotel in Death Valley. But as it stands in 2022: it’s not the sort of destination you can go to in an EV without a little extra planning and time. Good luck!
Ditto on previous comment. Yours is one of my favorite Tesla related channels. I'm curious, and don't mean to pry, but I am curious what you do, or did for your livelihood. You seem to lead a very interesting life, especially cruising around in your beautiful Tesla Y.
Thank you for the very kind feedback. I work in one of these tech jobs (that I love!) managing projects and teams. I've been able to do it remotely since the beginning of the pandemic. Actually, I was in San Francisco for the first six months of the pandemic but got a little bored of the lockdowns and most of my friends and family being out of town and not being able to visit any of them. At the time, I didn't have a car either. And since I'm also a pretty avid international traveler but wasn't able to travel internationally, I decided to do some covid-complaint domestic travel. My first trip was 6000 miles through the American West to Chicago and back. Then that July I did a three-week trial-run work-remote trip up to Alaska which I truly loved and decided I could do the remote-work thing full time. And since my landlord wasn't interested in lowering my rent in a downward rental market (or just renovate my place at the then-rent), I decided to move out, buy a Tesla, and get on the road until the pandemic ended. And technically, it hasn't ended so technically I haven't stopped traveling. Haha. No doubt I'll be brought back to the office one day, but until then: I drive! Humorously I've actually saved quite a bit of money by leaving San Francisco and traveling the continent rather than paying the rent I was paying (which was at the bottom of the market compared to many other people in the mid/late 2010s). A part of me does want to settle down again, but just when I stay somewhere for a couple weeks, I get antsy and want to get back on the road. It truly has become a lifestyle. Haha...
Great video!! I am going to Death Valley at the end of this month, too. Also gonna drive a Tesla model Y. Have you tried driving on a unpaved road? On the website, they recommended a high clearance vehicle, so I am wondering if model Y would work or not. Thanks again for the valuable information you provided!
Thanks for watching! As long as you can stay somewhere where you can charge in the park, your range should not be an issue. As for driving on unpaved roads: I did not do so in Death Valley National Park although I have certainly done so in other places around the United States. Interestingly, I am in Monument Valley in Utah/Arizona right now and they have a public dirt road that also is open for vehicles with higher clearance. I was thinking about driving on it but they had closed it to the public at 2 PM and I arrived at 3 PM. Instead, I booked a personal tour in a truck. It’s a good thing because the road was pretty rough and I don’t think my car would’ve made it in all places. Same for any regular sedan. At the end of the day, a Model Y is based on the Model 3 and both have sedan clearance. So if you’re doing research, see if the dirt road is OK for regular cars or just SUVs and trucks. Good luck!
You’re welcome. Glad I was able to help. If you end up staying at Panamint Springs you may call them in advance and see if you need to make a reservation for that crazy slow charger and/or if you’re supposed to pay for the RV spot. Seemed open to anyone when I was there. And apparently there are some extra level 2 chargers around the town of Death Valley itself. You should take a look at some of those third-party apps and that would certainly help you. With a little bit of planning you should be able to avoid needing to head out to Beatty for a Supercharge which all seemed very superfluous to me. Good luck!!
@@goingelectric7826 Thanks again. Yes Panamint would be the camp spot, I think they have rustic rooms to rent. We take delivery of our model y performance this month. Trying to get a feel for range and charging.
@@beefuzzy310 I stayed in one of the little cabin rooms when I was there. It was actually nicer than I was expecting (I wasn’t expecting much so a pleasant little surprise). As for range, all things (wheels) being equal, my understanding from conversations with Performance owners, the P typically gets about 7-10% less range than the LR. So, depending on where you’re entering Panamint Springs from, you may or may not need to charge up there, or if you did it wouldn’t need to be all that much (but no problem with a full charge if you can swing it). What’s the route you’re thinking of taking?
I drove through Death Valley and got gas just in case I ran out and spent the most on gas I’ve ever paid per gallon. I guess it’s better than breaking down in the middle of nowhere in August.
That’s for sure!! Death Valley can be serious business especially when temperatures are roasting. Nature is lovely until it tries to kill us! ☠️☀️🔥 Extra gas is definitely the way to go. Looking forward to some nice increases to range in the next generation of EVs - it’ll be nice to finally match ICEs!
Another iffy drive is through Monument Valley from Blanding UT down to Page or Grand Canyon (Tusayan). I planned my trip to spend the night at Goulding's Lodge. There are NEMA 14-50s at campsites there, so an adapter is a must. They charge $20 for a campsite whether you stay at a villa down the road a bit or actually sleep in your car there. Anyway, was a great stop and beautiful views from there.
Great to hear from you. It’s funny you mention Monument Valley. I was thinking of swinging through there in July when I was in New Mexico but I ended up not going, partially because of the lack of any seemingly verifiable chargers (except the one at Tuba City), and because my tires were at 2/32nds and I didn’t want any hot weather blowouts in the middle of nowhere. 💥 I ended up getting new tires in Santa Fe and then drove Southwest to Flagstaff and Sedona. Great to hear that you were able to reserve a campsite charger along your route. That’s good information for everyone to know!
@@goingelectric7826 I gotta admit, I was nervous about getting a flat myself -- especially since we went down some gravel roads for better photo ops. I had ordered a "Modern Spare" tire back in early August but it, of course, arrived late October -- a few days after my 5,500 coast-to-coast trip and back ended. Also, I have a blue Y as well so if you want pics of it in front of the various monuments, let me know. No one won't ever know it's not yours, lol.
@@iamweave Blue does it best! 🥰🚙 How do you like the modern spare? Where do you keep it? Presumably in the back? Strapped down? It’s pretty miraculous that I haven’t gotten any flats out in the middle of nowhere. God knows I’ve driven down some pretty sketchy rural roads over the last year. But of course, I did get a flat tire after driving over a razor blade in Miami last weekend, but fortunately I didn’t need my car for the couple days it took to get Tesla Mobile Service to come out and do a repair. I might get a modern spare. I do have some of that tire goo stuff tho and a 12V tire pump. 🤞
@@iamweave I just looked online into getting one and they're back ordered until the end of January, so it looks like I won't be traveling with a spare starting this week when I start driving from SF to LA to TX to IL. God, help me! Haha...
Thanks for watching and reaching out! Yep, Tesla Navigation kept trying to route me there but I reaaaaally wanted to get through the whole park from north to south without having to hook up to Nevada. Fortunately I was able to do it with a couple little AC top-ups and driving slow along the way. 🏜️🔋 🚙👍
Thank you for your very kind feedback. 🙏 For most Tesla drivers, the J1772 adapter that comes with the car is sufficient since that is the plug for probably a good 95% of all Level 2 240v chargers which are not of the Tesla-plug type. If you want to go farther afield and charge at RV parks and some far flung commercial buildings, a NEMA 14-30 & 14-50 adapter can be a good option, but if you go the RV park route do some in-depth research first. Sometimes RV parks don’t allow EV charging (in virtually all cases you have to pay and usually need a reservation), and you sometimes need a secondary adapter for the NEMA 14-50, or so I’ve heard. You can use the PlugShare app to see which chargers are where. Beware though: the non-Tesla charging network and various unrelated charge points all across the continent can be very convenient, but it happens on occasion that you show up and either the chargers are no longer there or they are broken or they are taken. Driving off of the Tesla Supercharger network is definitely doable, but it often requires a lot of extra time and patience. Lastly, the car comes with the standard NEMA 5-15 120V plug on your mobile charger. You might also consider the NEMA 5-20 120V which can result in a 25% faster charge on 120V if that plug is available where you happen to be. I use that whenever I visit my parents. I made a video that you can check out at the link below. Good luck, and let me know if you have any questions. 😃 ua-cam.com/video/2A5zw0bLwMo/v-deo.html
Was there good availability at the Supercharger station in Baker? In the video it looked quite crowded. I will be driving to Las Vegas from San Diego and figure to be stopping at Baker.
Hello hello. I was there at 6:30 PM on the Sunday night before Thanksgiving. It was definitely crowded but it wasn’t 100% full. I was able to drive straight into a spot. The whole time I was there no one was waiting for spots. They had just enough capacity. Imagine it could have been even busier on that Friday or Saturday as people were heading into Las Vegas or even Los Angeles, but for a holiday weekend I was pretty impressed. Baker is the only Supercharger between Barstow and the Nevada border but there are quite a few Superchargers just before and into Barstow. I think you’ll be fine. 😊
Very nice, I have to subscribe but I do have a question. When you regen down a hill to add more range, are you easing off the gas, how are you doing that. The end trailer was awesome as well!
Thanks for the great feedback. The trailer was fun to make. It’s a bit dramatic but I enjoyed doing it. 😆 Regarding regen: I made a video a couple months back about it when I was in New Mexico that could provide some interesting tidbits. ua-cam.com/video/Xx5wzSzzBkc/v-deo.html As for the accelerator: it turns out that regen is strong enough that if you fully take your foot off the accelerator the car will eventually stop on even the steepest of hills. Because of that, you do actually have to “give it gas” (so to speak) to keep the car moving forward. But the interesting thing about regen and one-pedal driving/breaking is that you get used to using the accelerator as a decelerator: if you want to speed up you press the accelerator firmly, but if you want to slow down you lift your foot just enough that you keep moving forward but just at a slower speed/rate. And when it comes to regen downhill, you do have to press the accelerator to ensure you keep moving forward but only so much that you don’t go faster than you want but not so lightly that you eventually slow down to a stop. And never do you have to use the brakes unless you come up on a sharp turn and you incorrectly estimated the distance for regen-to-stop. In that way, slowing down in an EV is totally game’ified and I truly enjoy trying as best I can to regen down a hill or to a full stop without using the brakes. As for the energy benefit that you get out of regen: my humble opinion is that it’s not totally crazy amazing in day-to-day driving when you’re just buzzing around town. It’s not bad, but the reality is the amount of time that the car is actually in a state a regen is usually not that much. But you definitely see the benefit when you’re on a mountain. It takes lots of energy to drive up a mountain but going back down can get you a good 30% to 40% back into the battery. For mountains, it’s a pretty miraculous technology. Enjoy the video and let me know if you have any questions! 🏔🔋🚙
@@MM-bw1lo I have published a lot so no need to watch them all. My most popular ones are the 13,000 mile review, charging at home on 120 V (NEMA 5-15 & the faster NEMA 5-20), driving across Canada, Death Valley and also regen. Most of the other videos are my day to day experiences with the car last year which you could probably skip over. 😊 Thanks for watching and I hope you can pick up a couple good practical insights. Let me know if there’s anything in particular like to learn about. Good luck!
Unfortunately I don’t have any recommendations for that. The Tesla website does show accommodations with destination chargers though and that can be very handy. Additionally, the app PlugShare (and others) list a good number of J-1772 chargers around. Good luck!
Hi. A comment by “dmurphy” from September 9, 2019 provides good info at the following website: teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/rv-parks-charging.165647/ . (In general a NEMA 14-50 or perhaps a TT-30 adapter depending on the RV park.) Good luck!
Hello hello! I have an Autumn 2020 MYLR with 20” wheels. As far as I’ve read/heard/chatted with others about, the 20” wheels have a 5-7% range penalty compared to the 19” wheels. I imagine the 21s have a penalty compared to the 20s & 19s. My car has a typical usable battery capacity of 70-72kWh from a max 75kWh battery pack. Apparently the 2021 Y’s are slightly larger at 75kWh usable and 82kWh max. Given my car’s usable battery capacity of 71’ish kWh, an average efficiency at mostly highway speeds of 290Wh/mi, that means 3.44mi/kWh. Multiply that by 71kWh and you get a max range of 244mi. In my observation, I can only get the advertised 326mi range (now 330) if I drive 55MPH on flat land in mild weather with no heavy rain, snow or cross wind. In real world situations, most people experience something much closer to 230-260 miles range.
Your mathematics assumes no degradation. Especially since you justifiable charge to 100% at times your battery will degrade. Don’t know the formula for that or a way to check how much.
Hello hello. That’s a good point. In my case, I have a 2020 MYLR that was manufactured - by all accounts - with a 75kWh max battery pack. Also, by all accounts (online reports & Tesla Techs), Tesla regulated the new usable battery capacity to 72kWh when new. I started tracking my charging and miles at 5,000mi and I have very in-depth records over the following 38,000 miles. Based on those records - and dependent upon the day, weather and charge cycle - my car can typically receive 70 to 71kWh during a 100% charge. On rare occasion as low as 66 and sometimes as high as 71.5kWh. So all in all, it appears that my battery degradation has been pretty minimal. But I definitely do keep my eye on it.
Hi Daniel, I have a one question to you about connectors ( adapter) for tesla What kind of connectors (adapter) do you recommend to have always in your tesla? To be always prepared Thank you
Hello hello! For typical travel, the J1772 plug adapter that comes with the Tesla is all you’ll really need (usually for a Level 2 240V charge between 5kW to 14kW, but sometime as low as 2kW). BUT: before you rely on it, test it out at a J1772 charger in your area to make sure your adapter is not broken as mine was. (Tesla replaced it.) Other than that, you can charge at a typical home outlet at 120V with the standard NEMA 5-15 plug that comes with the Tesla mobile charger device when you buy the car. For a 25% faster charge on 120V, you can sometimes use the NEMA 5-20 adapter if the outlet you’re using fits it (left perpendicular blade). I made a video about it a while back: ua-cam.com/video/2A5zw0bLwMo/v-deo.html . Lastly, if you want to go farther off the Supercharger & J1772 network, you can sometimes charge at RV parks with the NEMA 14-30 or more useful NEMA 14-50 adapter. Some viewers have mentioned that some RV park outlets require a TT-30 adapter in addition to the other adapter/s but you’d need to do more research on that since I haven’t been in that situation myself. Let me know if you have any additional questions and good luck! 😃
My personal preference is to purchase from Tesla simply to minimize any interoperability problems or Tesla possibly denying a warranty claim because of 3rd party adapters but that’s just me. The car will come with a J1772 adapter & standard NEMA 5-15 mobile charger plug so you don’t need to buy that (at least my car came with both in October 2020). So the only ones you’d really need to buy would be NEMA 5-20 & NEMA 14-50, and as mentioned above, I bought mine from Tesla. Of course, they sent me the wrong ones at first so I had to do a return so make sure you have everything well in advance of actually needing them. The good news tho is that you’ll probably be using the J1772 adapter about 95% of the time you’re not using a Supercharger or Level 2 Tesla plug charger. Let me know if that makes sense. 😃
Thank you for the nice video.Google maps says that starting from the Tesla Super Charger on West of DV and cross the DV to the Tesla super charger on the east site of DV is 115 miles. So we should have enough battery to cross DV. Did I miss something? FYI, the address of the two Tesla Superchargers are: 900 Hwy 95 N, Beatty, NV 89003 and 701 S Main St, Lone Pine, CA 93545. I am planing to DV with model Y in 2 weeks. I really want to make sure that I can come out of death valley. Any help is really appreciated!
Hi, thanks for writing! There are 4 Superchargers around Death Valley. Lone Pine, CA to the west Inyokern, CA to the southwest Beatty, NV to the east Baker, CA to the southeast Yes, if you charge up to near 90-100% you will have no problems driving from Lone Pine to Death Valley to Beatty which is 129 miles. Or from Inyokern to Death Valley to Beatty which is 151 miles. You would also have no problem driving from Baker to Death Valley to Beatty which is 153 miles. Keep in mind: if you are driving from Lone Pine to Death Valley and eventually to Beatty ***but want to add Artist's Palette and Badwater before arriving in Beatty*** that adds an extra 60 miles roundtrip from Death Valley, so the entire route from Lone Pine to Death Valley to Artist's Palette to Badwater back to Death Valley then east to Beatty is 211 miles. Also, if you drive Inyokern > Death Valley > Artist's Palette > Badwater > Death Valley > Beatty, that route is 214 miles. In all cases, you should have no problem with range along those routes if you charge your car first up to near 100% at any of the 3 California Superchargers -- drive close to the speed limit -- and then stop to Supercharge in Beatty, Nevada. The route I took was from the Supercharger in Lone Pine in the west through the entire park north-south to Death Valley to Artist's Palette to Ashford Junction then southeast out of the park to the Supercharger in Baker. That whole route with no detours is 247 miles. On my journey I wanted to avoid driving all the way east to Beatty in Nevada. That route would have required me to drive far east off my route to Supercharge then turn around and drive back to Death Valley (town) then finally south/southeast to Baker to Supercharge again. So, my test in the video was to see if I could drive north-south across the park without Supercharging in Beatty. So you are in luck: you should have no problems with range along your routes if you charge to/near 100% and stop in Beatty. :) Let me know if you have any questions. Enjoy your wonderful trip!
@@goingelectric7826 Wow! this is the most detailed reply I have even seen in UA-cam! Thank you so much for your great help! I really appreciate it. After my trip, I will come back here to report my story. Thank you again!!
@@chunpingding1196 This is what the internet was invented for - so that we could all learn from each other and help one another. 😃 Have a great trip! 🚙🏜
You are adding electric potentials from different charge cycles. Can't do that and maintain a valid test result. The correct method would be to actually not charge between your start when you are fully charged and destination point. That is an actual repeatable test.
Thanks for reaching out! And definitely, you are very technically correct. However, given the efficiency of the overall trip - and my overall average efficiency over the past 40,000 miles - I am able to very accurately calculate how far I can drive such that if I hadn't stopped for two relatively small Level 2 charges, that I knew in advance that I'd be able to make the entire drive from Lone Pine to Death Valley to Baker without needing to drive all the way up to Beatty for a Supercharge. What I didn't know exactly is what my efficiency would be for each leg of the trip which ended up being somewhat better than average for Lone Pine to Death Valley, and somewhat worse than average for Death Valley to Baker. Despite that, I knew I'd be able to make it through the park (at a lower speed) and that I could disregard Tesla Navigation's advice routing me into Nevada after Panamint Springs and before the town of Death Valley. And you are also correct: it would not be easy to perfectly repeat the test by someone else, much less myself, not only because of (relatively slight differences in) charge cycles, but also because of differences between wheels size and tires of other Model Ys, along with wind, weather and temperature variables. Because of all that, the ultimate points that I think will be helpful for viewers to take away from the video are: 1) plan ahead, 2) you'll *barely* make it on a single charge even when driving relatively slow, 3) in hotter/windier weather you will very likely need to charge either in the town of Death Valley or make the out-of-the-way trip to Beatty, 4) that the US should push hard to get DC fast chargers in National Parks, 5) that the US government should legally require all EV manufacturers to *at least* have affordable and reasonable (speed) connectivity to CCS-Combo DC fast chargers, and 6) Death Valley is a real deal desert and should be taken seriously by any visitor, EV or otherwise. PS: I recently published another video of my drive across Canada with a section about driving down the Canadian Rockies through Alberta which is more in line with what you'd prefer: a single drive with no charging in between Point A and Point B that could easily be repeated (although I did get stuck on a dead-end road and had to turn around which a person could theoretically re-enact as part of their own test.) That's for your comment - it's great information for viewers to know and provides additional context around the video. :)
@@goingelectric7826 I was simply saying that by eliminating error in your test, rather than introducing it, you draw more accurate conclusions. I don't need a run down of all the other possible deviations that can occur. Didn't mean to rouse the dogs.
Hello hello. Thanks for reaching out! I’ve had the shirt for a couple years now. I can’t remember if I picked it up at an Apple event or at the visitor center in Cupertino. The ol’ memory. Haha. ❤️🍎
@@goingelectric7826 thanks for responding I will fly out there soon perhaps they have something if not exactly that one but something similar. I ordered a model Y the wait is like 8 months for me .
@@goingelectric7826 I have a Death Valley video share all the tips and my experience. Please feel free to check it out 😏 there is a free charging station in the park
Hey! Just getting back to my account after taking a couple months off. Fun video - looks like you had a great time with your daughter. Cool that you were able to find sufficient charging and check out all the little nooks and crannies of Death Valley that I skedaddled past on my route. Also, you've inspired me to buy a twin mattress and go camping in my car! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching! 😃
As a Swede I seriously appreciate you have the metrics shown!
😊 I used to live in Germany, the UK, Japan and Saudi Arabia and have traveled a lot of other places. While I love the US, I do realize that 95.2% of the rest of the world uses the metric system. Haha ❤️🇺🇸🇸🇪 Also, 40% of my viewers are outside the US so love to you all! 🥰
@@goingelectric7826 Actually.. USA also uses the metric system!
But then they convert it to some arbitrary strange unit...
(yes, US Customary unit is DEFINED by the Metric!)
Daniel, I love how personable you are in your videos. It’s as if I was sitting across a table having coffee with you. Thanks for, yet again, another very enjoyable video.
Thank you for that very kind feedback. I actually like this side of UA-cam a lot where we can all chat back and forth. When I film my videos I do actually feel like I’m talking directly to everyone watching. I like to think about things people might be curious about - and things I’ve chatted about with people across the US and Canada in person (and elsewhere via various Tesla groups online) - and then I try to address the topics in ways people can relate to. As the world starts going electric, it’s the person-to-person conversations that’ll make it all that much easier (and less freaky!). 😃
Thank you sir for a wonderful video. The Y model is the one I want.
It’s a fun car and I’ve enjoyed driving it around the United States and Canada the last two years. 🚀😃
Great content and thank you for adding the distance in kilometers too. Much appreciated
Thank you for the very kind feedback. I used to live in the UK, Germany, Japan and Saudi Arabia and I have traveled around good chunks of the planet so I’m always happy to add the metric system. A good 40% of my viewers are outside the United States and so I feel my videos can be more valuable to them if I do some of the conversions for them. 😃
Very useful video for a new Model 3 owner like me. And, beautiful scenery to watch as well. Thanks.
Congrats on your M3. An even more efficient car than the Y! Jealous! Glad you enjoyed the video. Working on my Monument Valley video at this exact moment. Haha
Really appreciate you referencing the source of the electricity. As you say, sometimes you will do what you need to do to make a trip work (and I am planing a long trip soon and, at some points, will charge where ever I can charge, but, for most of us, the point of driving an EV is not just to power a car with electricity; it's to power a car with clean electricity.
Thanks for reaching out. Definitely, I think the goal for many of us is to power our cars with clean electricity, but sometimes practicality and the imperfections of generating electricity in the middle of nowhere get in the way. Looking forward to the day when these parts of the continent have a good amount of wind, solar, and geothermal electricity + battery storage to power local communities and the EVs passing through. 😃
And he lived to tell the tale! (Great music with that trailer! Super intense)
Haha. Barely!!! Thanks for the fun feedback! 🙏
You have really outdone yourself with making that trailer 😂
I love the drama haha
Thanks!! Haha. I thought it’d be a fun and silly little thing to try my hand at. 😂🎥🚙
Thank you for the great video. I got my model Y 2 months ago, and I have been learning about my car as much as I can. I loved the info you shared about driving below the speed limit to extend the range. Look forward to the next video!
Thanks for reaching out and for the great feedback. 🙏 I try to produce videos on topics that I don’t find a lot of content online about. Stuff that can be very practical and help people with real world EV ownership. As for driving slow, it can be a pain in the butt but it can also be a total lifesaver sometimes. If I’m going to go a super long distance and push the range in my car, I usually drive at the speed limit or just below for a good chunk of the first part of the trip until it becomes super apparent that I’ve got enough range in the battery and then I hit the accelerator and speed up for the rest of it. Also, the navigation trip planner battery status estimation is quite accurate although I have seen some cases in colder weather or bad weather where I arrived with 10 to 15% less battery charge than originally estimated. Because of that, in colder or worse weather I really try to avoid a route if it shows me arriving with less than 15 or 20% battery charge. But if I can’t avoid it, I just go quite slow for the first half of the trip until I can guarantee I have enough battery charge to make it the rest of the way. I have driven 40,000 miles in 14 months and that method has worked out really well for me. As for a spare tire: I do not have one. I do drive with a 12 V tire pump and tire repair goo. I use the 12 V tire pump somewhat frequently to make sure tire pressure is at 42 psi. I haven’t had to use the tire goo yet (not sure if that even works). I did drive over a razor blade when I was in Miami last winter and that required a full tire replacement. Fortunately I was able to let my car sit on the side of the road for two days until Tesla Mobile repair was able to come out and get me a new tire. I will be driving from San Francisco to Los Angeles next week and then Los Angeles to Dallas the week after and then up to Chicago the week after that and then back to California in January. Hopefully I don’t get any flats! 🤞 Maybe I should buy one of those Tesla spare tires along the way!
@@goingelectric7826 thank you for taking time to reply! Have a safe trip!
Great job, Daniel! Loved the trailer too We are picking up our Model Y tomorrow, and can't wait to do some road tripping! Cheers!
Yay! Congrats! With a little planning - and getting a feel for what kind of efficiency you can get at which speeds and in which environmental conditions - you can go pretty much anywhere you want. ESPECIALLY if you’re willing to drive slow in a pinch. Good luck!!
Good information on range and how to be prepared for a trip like that. Cool trailer at the end, super professional
Thanks for the very kind feedback! 🙏 The trailer was a lot of fun to make and I kept laughing as I was putting it together. “Such drama, Daniel!” Haha… Best of luck on any future road trips and no shame driving slow if you have to. :)
I live in Maine, but Death Valley is one of my favorite places in the world. Planning on taking a cross country trip once my Model Y is delivered and will most definitely be stopping in DV. The state park RV sites next to The Ranch at Death Valley has hookups and I believe runs off the same solar array as The Ranch does, if you're looking for something more environmentally friendly.
Thanks for reaching out. I will definitely have to look into that next time I’m in Death Valley. I have a NEMA 14-50 adapter now so I’m ready for the RV parks!! 🥰🏜🌵 Also, I spent a couple weeks in Maine driving around in my Y last May and I loved it. New Hampshire into Maine along Highway 2 to Moosehead Lake to Van Buren on Highway 1 up to the Canada border then down to the coast along the boarder and into Bar Harbor, Bangor, Augusta and Kittery/Portsmouth. Such a lovely state.
Another great video & info! We were in Denver last winter and my “cold” calculations were off a bit heading back to SoCal, as we rolled into Trinidad CO with 4% 🔋 … 😂🤣 Wife wasn’t laughing! 🤷🏻♂️ … Good job again! 👍🏼
I tell ya, those cold days will getcha every time! I’m observing that cold morning Supercharhing pre-conditioning will lower (increase) my Wh/mi efficiency by about 30% during a drive from morning-start to first Supercharge. It tends to be half (less than) that during subsequent Supercharges along a continued route. So instead of 300-330Wh/mi I typically see something in the 390-400Wh/mi for the first 150mi. Because of that, when I look at the Navigation/Trip arrival estimate, I typically subtract 10-15% and then make sure I have something like 20-25% estimated SoC before getting on the road. OTHERWISE, I just need to drive slow to that first Supercharger. I feel like I’m becoming quite the expert in all this. Haha.
Nice analysis! You got way more views than subscribers so you’re onto a topic !
I really enjoyed making this video. For a brief moment I thought about just doing road trip videos for the rest of my life. But then I realized I would make more money at my current job. Or any job! Ha ha. Thanks for watching!
I would totally watch that movie! Great video. So happy I stumbled across your channel will be watching more!
Thanks for the super kind feedback! 😃 Currently driving from Chicago to San Francisco and got stuck in a blizzard in Iowa on Fri-Sun. Good times! 🥶
@@goingelectric7826you are so welcome! Oh wow that sounds like a fun trip getting stuck in a blizzard doesn't sound so fun though. Glad you made it through!
Love the photos! Always wondered if a tesla can make it through that park, thanks for the vid
Thanks for the photo compliments. It was lovely shooting this video! 😃 The good news is that if people are willing to go a bit out of the way and drive out to Beatty, NV to Supercharge, then virtually any route you can take through the park from Lone Pine, Inyokern or Baker is super doable. If you take the northern route from Lone Pine and add Badwater and Artist's Palette before going into Beatty, it's something like 210 total miles, but also very manageable, even on a hot day with the air-conditioner on as long as you drive around the speed limit especially since you get such great regen coming down the backside of those mountains. Thanks for reaching out!
I wish Tesla will put Superchargers at all National Park in the U.S and Canada along with Starlink internet satellite for internet access at the superchargers.
That would be totally amazing. I have a feeling the federal government would not allow Tesla branded Superchargers in their parks until Tesla opened up charging to all electric vehicles. But at least a bunch of DC fast chargers and J1772s.
Great video! Thanks Daniel! BTW when my car (Joules) loses cell service, voice commands stop working. There are plenty of places without cell coverage here in southwest New Mexico.
Funny thing happened. I was driving to a nearby town named "Cliff". It was almost the only town on the road. I asked Joules to navigate to "Cliff" to get an ETA and it decided I wanted to go to a place called "Cliff House" which is 1,000 miles away near San Francisco.
Thank you for the super nice complement! It’s pretty crazy how all of our devices and vehicles are so dependent on Internet connections and cell phone service these days. Not much on board mapping happening. Haha. I was in New Mexico for several weeks a couple months back. It was super super lovely. Las Cruces, White Sands, Ruidoso, Taos, Santa Fe and the mountains and deserts all in between. 🥰
The trailer at the end… AWESOME!!!
Thanks!! I was actually laughing quite a bit when I was editing it all together and just thought, “THIS IS SO DRAMATIC!!!” Haha… I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! 🙏
It was really well done, really cool how you kept it at the end… a nice treat for those who watched the whole video!!
Great video very informative
Thank you! Energy capacity is still quite a bit less in a Tesla Model Y or nearly any EV for that matter compared to a gasoline car but with a little bit of planning we can go virtually anywhere. My hope is that people are able to leverage the information in this video to other national parks or distant places in their own lives. Good luck!
Excellent info! Love the drama of the film at the end 😂
I was laughing quite a bit when I was editing that little video together. (I actually make all these videos on my iPhone!) Especially as I got to the end with that rapid succession of photos, I was like, "Daniel, SUCH DRAMA!!!" Hahah 🤣
@@goingelectric7826 😂 so good! That’s really impressive you make your vids on your phone! Looks awesome 👌🏼
Great video Daniel! You would think that someone would put up solar panels so charging would be such a hassle. All that sun…just makes sense, then no one would have to worry about running out of electrons.
That is certainly true. I imagine there are some complications with development in national parks, even for alternative energy. But at a bare minimum getting Superchargers on the border of national parks, similar to gas stations, would be very beneficial for having clean powered vehicles traveling through those parks. And if a gas station is in a national park, there’s no reason a DC fast charger also should not be there.
Great 👍 info thanks
Thanks! 🙏 Pushing my Y’s range was actually a lot of fun. I drove through Monument Valley along the Arizona-Utah border a couple days back and I’ll be making a video about that in the next couple weeks. 🏜
A great video. Bottom line is that Death Valley in an EV is a risky proposition that demands a good deal of planning. Add to that the lack of connectivity, this can be dangerous if you don't think this through and act responsibly.
Definitely. And at a bare minimum, the park is super doable with a fair amount of inconvenience by driving to any of the three superchargers on the periphery or by booking a destination charger hotel in Death Valley. But as it stands in 2022: it’s not the sort of destination you can go to in an EV without a little extra planning and time. Good luck!
Ditto on previous comment. Yours is one of my favorite Tesla related channels. I'm curious, and don't mean to pry, but I am curious what you do, or did for your livelihood. You seem to lead a very interesting life, especially cruising around in your beautiful Tesla Y.
Thank you for the very kind feedback. I work in one of these tech jobs (that I love!) managing projects and teams. I've been able to do it remotely since the beginning of the pandemic. Actually, I was in San Francisco for the first six months of the pandemic but got a little bored of the lockdowns and most of my friends and family being out of town and not being able to visit any of them. At the time, I didn't have a car either. And since I'm also a pretty avid international traveler but wasn't able to travel internationally, I decided to do some covid-complaint domestic travel. My first trip was 6000 miles through the American West to Chicago and back. Then that July I did a three-week trial-run work-remote trip up to Alaska which I truly loved and decided I could do the remote-work thing full time. And since my landlord wasn't interested in lowering my rent in a downward rental market (or just renovate my place at the then-rent), I decided to move out, buy a Tesla, and get on the road until the pandemic ended. And technically, it hasn't ended so technically I haven't stopped traveling. Haha. No doubt I'll be brought back to the office one day, but until then: I drive! Humorously I've actually saved quite a bit of money by leaving San Francisco and traveling the continent rather than paying the rent I was paying (which was at the bottom of the market compared to many other people in the mid/late 2010s). A part of me does want to settle down again, but just when I stay somewhere for a couple weeks, I get antsy and want to get back on the road. It truly has become a lifestyle. Haha...
Great video!! I am going to Death Valley at the end of this month, too. Also gonna drive a Tesla model Y. Have you tried driving on a unpaved road? On the website, they recommended a high clearance vehicle, so I am wondering if model Y would work or not. Thanks again for the valuable information you provided!
Thanks for watching! As long as you can stay somewhere where you can charge in the park, your range should not be an issue. As for driving on unpaved roads: I did not do so in Death Valley National Park although I have certainly done so in other places around the United States. Interestingly, I am in Monument Valley in Utah/Arizona right now and they have a public dirt road that also is open for vehicles with higher clearance. I was thinking about driving on it but they had closed it to the public at 2 PM and I arrived at 3 PM. Instead, I booked a personal tour in a truck. It’s a good thing because the road was pretty rough and I don’t think my car would’ve made it in all places. Same for any regular sedan. At the end of the day, a Model Y is based on the Model 3 and both have sedan clearance. So if you’re doing research, see if the dirt road is OK for regular cars or just SUVs and trucks. Good luck!
Thanks! I was wondering about this. A few friends want to camp out that way.
You’re welcome. Glad I was able to help. If you end up staying at Panamint Springs you may call them in advance and see if you need to make a reservation for that crazy slow charger and/or if you’re supposed to pay for the RV spot. Seemed open to anyone when I was there. And apparently there are some extra level 2 chargers around the town of Death Valley itself. You should take a look at some of those third-party apps and that would certainly help you. With a little bit of planning you should be able to avoid needing to head out to Beatty for a Supercharge which all seemed very superfluous to me. Good luck!!
@@goingelectric7826 Thanks again. Yes Panamint would be the camp spot, I think they have rustic rooms to rent. We take delivery of our model y performance this month. Trying to get a feel for range and charging.
@@beefuzzy310 I stayed in one of the little cabin rooms when I was there. It was actually nicer than I was expecting (I wasn’t expecting much so a pleasant little surprise). As for range, all things (wheels) being equal, my understanding from conversations with Performance owners, the P typically gets about 7-10% less range than the LR. So, depending on where you’re entering Panamint Springs from, you may or may not need to charge up there, or if you did it wouldn’t need to be all that much (but no problem with a full charge if you can swing it). What’s the route you’re thinking of taking?
I drove through Death Valley and got gas just in case I ran out and spent the most on gas I’ve ever paid per gallon. I guess it’s better than breaking down in the middle of nowhere in August.
That’s for sure!! Death Valley can be serious business especially when temperatures are roasting. Nature is lovely until it tries to kill us! ☠️☀️🔥 Extra gas is definitely the way to go. Looking forward to some nice increases to range in the next generation of EVs - it’ll be nice to finally match ICEs!
Another iffy drive is through Monument Valley from Blanding UT down to Page or Grand Canyon (Tusayan). I planned my trip to spend the night at Goulding's Lodge. There are NEMA 14-50s at campsites there, so an adapter is a must. They charge $20 for a campsite whether you stay at a villa down the road a bit or actually sleep in your car there. Anyway, was a great stop and beautiful views from there.
Great to hear from you. It’s funny you mention Monument Valley. I was thinking of swinging through there in July when I was in New Mexico but I ended up not going, partially because of the lack of any seemingly verifiable chargers (except the one at Tuba City), and because my tires were at 2/32nds and I didn’t want any hot weather blowouts in the middle of nowhere. 💥 I ended up getting new tires in Santa Fe and then drove Southwest to Flagstaff and Sedona. Great to hear that you were able to reserve a campsite charger along your route. That’s good information for everyone to know!
@@goingelectric7826 I gotta admit, I was nervous about getting a flat myself -- especially since we went down some gravel roads for better photo ops. I had ordered a "Modern Spare" tire back in early August but it, of course, arrived late October -- a few days after my 5,500 coast-to-coast trip and back ended. Also, I have a blue Y as well so if you want pics of it in front of the various monuments, let me know. No one won't ever know it's not yours, lol.
@@iamweave Blue does it best! 🥰🚙 How do you like the modern spare? Where do you keep it? Presumably in the back? Strapped down? It’s pretty miraculous that I haven’t gotten any flats out in the middle of nowhere. God knows I’ve driven down some pretty sketchy rural roads over the last year. But of course, I did get a flat tire after driving over a razor blade in Miami last weekend, but fortunately I didn’t need my car for the couple days it took to get Tesla Mobile Service to come out and do a repair. I might get a modern spare. I do have some of that tire goo stuff tho and a 12V tire pump. 🤞
@@goingelectric7826 I haven't even unboxed it yet. :-( I'm not going to keep it in the car unless going on a long road trip.
@@iamweave I just looked online into getting one and they're back ordered until the end of January, so it looks like I won't be traveling with a spare starting this week when I start driving from SF to LA to TX to IL. God, help me! Haha...
Bruce Willes in the Model y.
Haha. Totally! 😂
theres a supercharger in Beatty Nevada that would give you the boost you needed to make it easy to Baker
Thanks for watching and reaching out! Yep, Tesla Navigation kept trying to route me there but I reaaaaally wanted to get through the whole park from north to south without having to hook up to Nevada. Fortunately I was able to do it with a couple little AC top-ups and driving slow along the way. 🏜️🔋 🚙👍
Your video is very nicely done. What additional charger adaptors would you suggest purchasing? Thank you for sharing
Thank you for your very kind feedback. 🙏 For most Tesla drivers, the J1772 adapter that comes with the car is sufficient since that is the plug for probably a good 95% of all Level 2 240v chargers which are not of the Tesla-plug type. If you want to go farther afield and charge at RV parks and some far flung commercial buildings, a NEMA 14-30 & 14-50 adapter can be a good option, but if you go the RV park route do some in-depth research first. Sometimes RV parks don’t allow EV charging (in virtually all cases you have to pay and usually need a reservation), and you sometimes need a secondary adapter for the NEMA 14-50, or so I’ve heard. You can use the PlugShare app to see which chargers are where. Beware though: the non-Tesla charging network and various unrelated charge points all across the continent can be very convenient, but it happens on occasion that you show up and either the chargers are no longer there or they are broken or they are taken. Driving off of the Tesla Supercharger network is definitely doable, but it often requires a lot of extra time and patience. Lastly, the car comes with the standard NEMA 5-15 120V plug on your mobile charger. You might also consider the NEMA 5-20 120V which can result in a 25% faster charge on 120V if that plug is available where you happen to be. I use that whenever I visit my parents. I made a video that you can check out at the link below. Good luck, and let me know if you have any questions. 😃 ua-cam.com/video/2A5zw0bLwMo/v-deo.html
Was there good availability at the Supercharger station in Baker? In the video it looked quite crowded. I will be driving to Las Vegas from San Diego and figure to be stopping at Baker.
Hello hello. I was there at 6:30 PM on the Sunday night before Thanksgiving. It was definitely crowded but it wasn’t 100% full. I was able to drive straight into a spot. The whole time I was there no one was waiting for spots. They had just enough capacity. Imagine it could have been even busier on that Friday or Saturday as people were heading into Las Vegas or even Los Angeles, but for a holiday weekend I was pretty impressed. Baker is the only Supercharger between Barstow and the Nevada border but there are quite a few Superchargers just before and into Barstow. I think you’ll be fine. 😊
Very nice, I have to subscribe but I do have a question. When you regen down a hill to add more range, are you easing off the gas, how are you doing that. The end trailer was awesome as well!
Thanks for the great feedback. The trailer was fun to make. It’s a bit dramatic but I enjoyed doing it. 😆 Regarding regen: I made a video a couple months back about it when I was in New Mexico that could provide some interesting tidbits. ua-cam.com/video/Xx5wzSzzBkc/v-deo.html As for the accelerator: it turns out that regen is strong enough that if you fully take your foot off the accelerator the car will eventually stop on even the steepest of hills. Because of that, you do actually have to “give it gas” (so to speak) to keep the car moving forward. But the interesting thing about regen and one-pedal driving/breaking is that you get used to using the accelerator as a decelerator: if you want to speed up you press the accelerator firmly, but if you want to slow down you lift your foot just enough that you keep moving forward but just at a slower speed/rate. And when it comes to regen downhill, you do have to press the accelerator to ensure you keep moving forward but only so much that you don’t go faster than you want but not so lightly that you eventually slow down to a stop. And never do you have to use the brakes unless you come up on a sharp turn and you incorrectly estimated the distance for regen-to-stop. In that way, slowing down in an EV is totally game’ified and I truly enjoy trying as best I can to regen down a hill or to a full stop without using the brakes. As for the energy benefit that you get out of regen: my humble opinion is that it’s not totally crazy amazing in day-to-day driving when you’re just buzzing around town. It’s not bad, but the reality is the amount of time that the car is actually in a state a regen is usually not that much. But you definitely see the benefit when you’re on a mountain. It takes lots of energy to drive up a mountain but going back down can get you a good 30% to 40% back into the battery. For mountains, it’s a pretty miraculous technology. Enjoy the video and let me know if you have any questions! 🏔🔋🚙
@@goingelectric7826 thanks for this answer, it was definitely helpful. I just subscribed so I’ll work my way backwards and watch the vids
@@MM-bw1lo I have published a lot so no need to watch them all. My most popular ones are the 13,000 mile review, charging at home on 120 V (NEMA 5-15 & the faster NEMA 5-20), driving across Canada, Death Valley and also regen. Most of the other videos are my day to day experiences with the car last year which you could probably skip over. 😊 Thanks for watching and I hope you can pick up a couple good practical insights. Let me know if there’s anything in particular like to learn about. Good luck!
@@goingelectric7826 Ok, I'll check em out. Thanks!
Any recommendations on house/condo rentals in Palm Springs or Palm Desert with a Tesla charger?
Unfortunately I don’t have any recommendations for that. The Tesla website does show accommodations with destination chargers though and that can be very handy. Additionally, the app PlugShare (and others) list a good number of J-1772 chargers around. Good luck!
Which adopter should I need in order to plug in the RV camp site charger(50a)?
Hi. A comment by “dmurphy” from September 9, 2019 provides good info at the following website: teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/rv-parks-charging.165647/ . (In general a NEMA 14-50 or perhaps a TT-30 adapter depending on the RV park.) Good luck!
Do you have the standard range Y? It doesn’t look like you have the 21 inch wheels. 240 miles?
Hello hello! I have an Autumn 2020 MYLR with 20” wheels. As far as I’ve read/heard/chatted with others about, the 20” wheels have a 5-7% range penalty compared to the 19” wheels. I imagine the 21s have a penalty compared to the 20s & 19s. My car has a typical usable battery capacity of 70-72kWh from a max 75kWh battery pack. Apparently the 2021 Y’s are slightly larger at 75kWh usable and 82kWh max. Given my car’s usable battery capacity of 71’ish kWh, an average efficiency at mostly highway speeds of 290Wh/mi, that means 3.44mi/kWh. Multiply that by 71kWh and you get a max range of 244mi. In my observation, I can only get the advertised 326mi range (now 330) if I drive 55MPH on flat land in mild weather with no heavy rain, snow or cross wind. In real world situations, most people experience something much closer to 230-260 miles range.
Your mathematics assumes no degradation. Especially since you justifiable charge to 100% at times your battery will degrade. Don’t know the formula for that or a way to check how much.
Hello hello. That’s a good point. In my case, I have a 2020 MYLR that was manufactured - by all accounts - with a 75kWh max battery pack. Also, by all accounts (online reports & Tesla Techs), Tesla regulated the new usable battery capacity to 72kWh when new. I started tracking my charging and miles at 5,000mi and I have very in-depth records over the following 38,000 miles. Based on those records - and dependent upon the day, weather and charge cycle - my car can typically receive 70 to 71kWh during a 100% charge. On rare occasion as low as 66 and sometimes as high as 71.5kWh. So all in all, it appears that my battery degradation has been pretty minimal. But I definitely do keep my eye on it.
Hi Daniel,
I have a one question to you about connectors ( adapter) for tesla
What kind of connectors (adapter) do you recommend to have always in your tesla?
To be always prepared
Thank you
Hello hello! For typical travel, the J1772 plug adapter that comes with the Tesla is all you’ll really need (usually for a Level 2 240V charge between 5kW to 14kW, but sometime as low as 2kW). BUT: before you rely on it, test it out at a J1772 charger in your area to make sure your adapter is not broken as mine was. (Tesla replaced it.) Other than that, you can charge at a typical home outlet at 120V with the standard NEMA 5-15 plug that comes with the Tesla mobile charger device when you buy the car. For a 25% faster charge on 120V, you can sometimes use the NEMA 5-20 adapter if the outlet you’re using fits it (left perpendicular blade). I made a video about it a while back: ua-cam.com/video/2A5zw0bLwMo/v-deo.html . Lastly, if you want to go farther off the Supercharger & J1772 network, you can sometimes charge at RV parks with the NEMA 14-30 or more useful NEMA 14-50 adapter. Some viewers have mentioned that some RV park outlets require a TT-30 adapter in addition to the other adapter/s but you’d need to do more research on that since I haven’t been in that situation myself. Let me know if you have any additional questions and good luck! 😃
@@goingelectric7826 Thanks Daniel for replying to me, do you recommend to buy them on amazon or straight away from tesla dealership?
My personal preference is to purchase from Tesla simply to minimize any interoperability problems or Tesla possibly denying a warranty claim because of 3rd party adapters but that’s just me. The car will come with a J1772 adapter & standard NEMA 5-15 mobile charger plug so you don’t need to buy that (at least my car came with both in October 2020). So the only ones you’d really need to buy would be NEMA 5-20 & NEMA 14-50, and as mentioned above, I bought mine from Tesla. Of course, they sent me the wrong ones at first so I had to do a return so make sure you have everything well in advance of actually needing them. The good news tho is that you’ll probably be using the J1772 adapter about 95% of the time you’re not using a Supercharger or Level 2 Tesla plug charger. Let me know if that makes sense. 😃
Thank you for the nice video.Google maps says that starting from the Tesla Super Charger on West of DV and cross the DV to the Tesla super charger on the east site of DV is 115 miles. So we should have enough battery to cross DV. Did I miss something? FYI, the address of the two Tesla Superchargers are: 900 Hwy 95 N, Beatty, NV 89003 and 701 S Main St, Lone Pine, CA 93545. I am planing to DV with model Y in 2 weeks. I really want to make sure that I can come out of death valley. Any help is really appreciated!
Hi, thanks for writing! There are 4 Superchargers around Death Valley.
Lone Pine, CA to the west
Inyokern, CA to the southwest
Beatty, NV to the east
Baker, CA to the southeast
Yes, if you charge up to near 90-100% you will have no problems driving from Lone Pine to Death Valley to Beatty which is 129 miles. Or from Inyokern to Death Valley to Beatty which is 151 miles. You would also have no problem driving from Baker to Death Valley to Beatty which is 153 miles.
Keep in mind: if you are driving from Lone Pine to Death Valley and eventually to Beatty ***but want to add Artist's Palette and Badwater before arriving in Beatty*** that adds an extra 60 miles roundtrip from Death Valley, so the entire route from Lone Pine to Death Valley to Artist's Palette to Badwater back to Death Valley then east to Beatty is 211 miles.
Also, if you drive Inyokern > Death Valley > Artist's Palette > Badwater > Death Valley > Beatty, that route is 214 miles.
In all cases, you should have no problem with range along those routes if you charge your car first up to near 100% at any of the 3 California Superchargers -- drive close to the speed limit -- and then stop to Supercharge in Beatty, Nevada.
The route I took was from the Supercharger in Lone Pine in the west through the entire park north-south to Death Valley to Artist's Palette to Ashford Junction then southeast out of the park to the Supercharger in Baker. That whole route with no detours is 247 miles. On my journey I wanted to avoid driving all the way east to Beatty in Nevada. That route would have required me to drive far east off my route to Supercharge then turn around and drive back to Death Valley (town) then finally south/southeast to Baker to Supercharge again. So, my test in the video was to see if I could drive north-south across the park without Supercharging in Beatty.
So you are in luck: you should have no problems with range along your routes if you charge to/near 100% and stop in Beatty. :)
Let me know if you have any questions. Enjoy your wonderful trip!
@@goingelectric7826 Wow! this is the most detailed reply I have even seen in UA-cam! Thank you so much for your great help! I really appreciate it. After my trip, I will come back here to report my story. Thank you again!!
@@chunpingding1196 This is what the internet was invented for - so that we could all learn from each other and help one another. 😃 Have a great trip! 🚙🏜
You are adding electric potentials from different charge cycles. Can't do that and maintain a valid test result. The correct method would be to actually not charge between your start when you are fully charged and destination point. That is an actual repeatable test.
Thanks for reaching out! And definitely, you are very technically correct. However, given the efficiency of the overall trip - and my overall average efficiency over the past 40,000 miles - I am able to very accurately calculate how far I can drive such that if I hadn't stopped for two relatively small Level 2 charges, that I knew in advance that I'd be able to make the entire drive from Lone Pine to Death Valley to Baker without needing to drive all the way up to Beatty for a Supercharge. What I didn't know exactly is what my efficiency would be for each leg of the trip which ended up being somewhat better than average for Lone Pine to Death Valley, and somewhat worse than average for Death Valley to Baker. Despite that, I knew I'd be able to make it through the park (at a lower speed) and that I could disregard Tesla Navigation's advice routing me into Nevada after Panamint Springs and before the town of Death Valley. And you are also correct: it would not be easy to perfectly repeat the test by someone else, much less myself, not only because of (relatively slight differences in) charge cycles, but also because of differences between wheels size and tires of other Model Ys, along with wind, weather and temperature variables. Because of all that, the ultimate points that I think will be helpful for viewers to take away from the video are: 1) plan ahead, 2) you'll *barely* make it on a single charge even when driving relatively slow, 3) in hotter/windier weather you will very likely need to charge either in the town of Death Valley or make the out-of-the-way trip to Beatty, 4) that the US should push hard to get DC fast chargers in National Parks, 5) that the US government should legally require all EV manufacturers to *at least* have affordable and reasonable (speed) connectivity to CCS-Combo DC fast chargers, and 6) Death Valley is a real deal desert and should be taken seriously by any visitor, EV or otherwise. PS: I recently published another video of my drive across Canada with a section about driving down the Canadian Rockies through Alberta which is more in line with what you'd prefer: a single drive with no charging in between Point A and Point B that could easily be repeated (although I did get stuck on a dead-end road and had to turn around which a person could theoretically re-enact as part of their own test.) That's for your comment - it's great information for viewers to know and provides additional context around the video. :)
@@goingelectric7826 I was simply saying that by eliminating error in your test, rather than introducing it, you draw more accurate conclusions. I don't need a run down of all the other possible deviations that can occur. Didn't mean to rouse the dogs.
@@tonynotstated695 You absolutely didn’t rouse anything. I appreciate the feedback not to mention because you are correct. :-)
I like your apple T-shirt where can i find one ?
Hello hello. Thanks for reaching out! I’ve had the shirt for a couple years now. I can’t remember if I picked it up at an Apple event or at the visitor center in Cupertino. The ol’ memory. Haha. ❤️🍎
@@goingelectric7826 thanks for responding I will fly out there soon perhaps they have something if not exactly that one but something similar. I ordered a model Y the wait is like 8 months for me .
@@jerrya1356 It’s so crazy how long the waits are. Hopefully you can get yours before then! ⚡️🚘
@@goingelectric7826 yeah if not I will be okay until then.
08:00 Starlink, anyone?
Haha… totally! ☎️🌎🛰🚀
It’s better to stay in Beatty
I think you might be right!! 🤣
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I have a Death Valley video share all the tips and my experience. Please feel free to check it out 😏 there is a free charging station in the park
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Most of sightseeing are near Beatty
Here's my version of this video: ua-cam.com/video/9RBozlnOnFc/v-deo.html
Hey! Just getting back to my account after taking a couple months off. Fun video - looks like you had a great time with your daughter. Cool that you were able to find sufficient charging and check out all the little nooks and crannies of Death Valley that I skedaddled past on my route. Also, you've inspired me to buy a twin mattress and go camping in my car! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching! 😃
Seymour butts did that trip too
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