WRC 10 vs Dirt Rally 2.0: Which is the best rally game?
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- In my WRC 10 vs Dirt Rally 2.0 video two rally heavyweights go head-to-head, comparing the graphics, physics, handling, cars, stages, game modes and more. Whether you agree or not, you can see both games in action.
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Flame suit on. Obligatory "Richard Burns Rally is better" comment. If you have played both games or similar, let me know your thoughts. Cheers!
Zikz rally better
@@reika2836 Goes without saying.
Dirt come just about close to Richard burn rally. THat game is something else.
I personally have found wrc games to be like a giraffe on roller skates, just going for a quiet drive at slow speeds..20-60 kms.( peaceful cruise through Africa etc).can see you off the road and even roll. I find dr 1&2 have a bit more weight to car which I like.
That being said wrc games (I don't have 10 yet so thanks for the informed vid:) have cool stages so I am now trying hard to get good at wrc9 in prep for 10. Great vid thankyou.
The visuals and "liveliness" in WRC 10 are the biggest problem to me even if it's better in some aspects than DR 2.0. I think both games are good but the stages, co driver calls, scenery and sound in DR 2.0 are just a league above WRC 10's in my opinion. "Immersion" is a HUGE part of what makes a "sim" a sim to me and DR 2.0 immersion is just better hands down, But that's just my opinion. WRC 10's graphics to me are just too "sharp" and doesn't have near as good of a "sense of speed" in my opinion.. WRC 10 is just too "clinical" and "corporate" for my taste and really lacks emotion compared to DR 2.0.
It only took me 1 stage on WRC 10 with hearing how my favorite rally car (the 037) sounded for me to go "nope that's completely wrong" and then I lost some immersion because of that. While The 037 on DR 2.0 is spot on. It's a small gripe but it matters. I think WRC 10 while it may have more "depth" like you said just doesn't give me the pure adrenaline or the "Let's do this" feeling that DR 2.0 gives me. Good video though, I liked seeing someone else give their opinion and break it down.
It is also worth noting that I own all the DLC for DR 2.0 so I could see someone maybe being a bit disappointed with the level of content in DR 2.0 if they just bought the base game, as a lot of cool and legendary cars are indeed locked behind DLC. I noticed you called Sweden "tedious" in DR 2.0.. Well then that means they did their job well then lol Driving almost any rally stage IRL could be called "tedious" Just poking some fun haha.
I could however see someone being really happy with WRC 10 if they hadn't played any other rally game in the last few years or DR 2.0 was too hard for them.
For me the main attraction for DR 2.0 is the sense of speed, especially for older cars. To give an example, when you get inside a Group B car and press the throttle with the right FOV, it is really thrilling. Whereas in WRC9 and WRC10 the older cars feel really dull. And as for lots of others here the main attraction of WRC games are incredible stages and tarmac rallying.
That's true and also some of the Group B cars in WRC have less power for whatever reason. You can adjust the FoV in WRC too, which helps with the sensation of speed.
I recently bought WRC 9 on sale and I’m shocked anyone even compares the two games in terms of gameplay WRC is so bad, I’d take Sega Rally over WRC 9.
@@nothing2see315 Really? It's more realistic lol.
@@ATribeCalledCars I wonder if people consider Dirt 1&2 ffb to be floaty because they have a T300? The T300 FFB doesn’t work properly on DR1/PS4 but the T500/PS4 does and the TMX for XB1 was fine with DR1 but not DR2.0 for some reason. They never fixed it and the forums they had for Dirt no longer exist, they never acknowledged the problem on the forum even after everyone made threads about it either, it was also affected by which car and surface you were on, there were people in the forums switching between wheels /Fanatec/Thrustmaster/Logitech and it seemed to only be a T300/TMX problem. I found a T500 used wheel base for cheap and it was a night and day difference from my newer T300 and was much better on my PS4. That’s when I looked on Dirt forums and found this problem was a common theme of threads there.
@@ATribeCalledCars But I’ve spent my younger days in remote rural type environments similar to Finland where I drove like an idiot on gravel country roads and the cars feel floaty in real life so idk….in terms of physics Dirt feels like the old IRL days and WRC doesn’t. Dirt Tarmac physics really aren’t great at all tho I agree with most on that but it depends on the car it seems and I find the R5s feel decent.
The real winner? It's us. The gamers. Just buy both and enjoy.
Comment of the year.
this sounds so wholesome lol. But yeah, appreciate every opinion on what games people like and support each other. I love wrc 9 and Dirt Rally 2.0 lol
@@zombielp666
Lmao Dirt Rally 2.0 Gold plus WRC 8 was like 20$ on PSN , immediately bought'em 😎
But I can only afford one, and dirt is on sale
The beautiful fruit of capitalism
DR 2.0 is just sublime. The early rally cars and the WRX with Colin McRae livery.
To me the first dirt rally its still the best
@@TheDiogofalcao the sense of speed is better, the graphics filter looks more kind to the eye, the co driver is a thousand times more immersive, the speedometer looks cooler... i wish I had DR1 on my PS4 :((((
I still adore 2.0 tho.
@@RandomGuitarist7 I need to try the first one but dr2 is one of my favorite games in general. One of the only reasons I even bought wrc10 was because I saw it had a co driver co-op thing that looked pretty sweet.
Hearing this guy say wrc10 is the more realistic rally game almost made me choke on my fry up. Wrc physics are so easy the game feels like it plays for you. Dirt rally actually takes more driver input and is 10x more challenging
@@brianboulter1180 I know a lot of actual rally drivers play dirt 2.0, during covid anyway. I've heard some of them say with good wheel setups the cars could pass as the real deal.
Call me biased or blind in love of dirt rally but dirt rally 2 is the best car game to me. Not just rally. It's just so detailed... The way car interacts with the surfaces... Extremely detailed sound effects.... Pure perfect engine sounds... Sense of speed..... Everything works so perfect for me that I'm emotionally in love with dirt rally 1 and 2.
You are not alone in thinking that, it is a great racing game.
I somewhat disagree. I am fortunate to have a rally team and drive a Group A Evo 9. The car’s behaviour is closer accomplished by WRC9 and WRC10. Dirt Rally 2.0 (other than the R5 cars) regardless of tire, the cars feel like driving on soap.
@@tsangarisrallyteam366 why do the cars in any wrc game feel weightless
@@tungabunga4107 I am not so sure, I never had any impression as such by the game. Wrc feels more of a realistic grip. I also noticed that with worn tires, wrc captured that behaviour of the car just like in real life does.
@@georget6541 well the only thing the wrc games are good at is physics. Nothing else.
Really comprehensive overview. I'm a dirt rally 2 player myself, you managed to convince me to give wrc a try ! nice job ! cheers
Cheers, that's great. Hopefully you enjoy WRC! I'd assume it's available a bit cheaper now, which helps.
what do you think about dirt rally vs wrc now?
@@jaredmiller9142was about to ask the same question
@@jaredmiller9142 i have both games and i can say that dirt rally is arcade game compared WRC10
@@L0CALDRUGMAN played anything but tarmac yet?
A great comparison. I love both games. Fingers crossed KT continue to make rally games once the WRC license goes to codemasters. All games need some form of competition to ensure each instalment is the best it can be. Some fans fail to see this.
With rally games I find myself asking if the chaos of rally is felt. With rally 2.0 that chaos is felt.
@9:45 - Gotta say the WRC 10 night view evokes real driving in a cheap rental car on narrow dirt roads in the Costa Rica mountains, praying not to be pitched off the precipitous exposures. Great job WRC 10!
Lol I did the costa Rica car rental lol. Crazy drivers
I mean should it though? Rally cars have some decently bright lights and wrc10 just doesn't capture that imo. The lighting itself and how the lighting messes with your visibility is spot on though. Imo if both games could merge their best features, it'd be the perfect rally game lol
@@MrSirGiuseppe Yea, lighting looks fantastic but WRC cars have incredible headlights so its not really realistic.
@@stupedaso4935 same here! Good times
Excellent review. I hadn't considered the WRC games before, but will now.
Great video and breakdown. This is the best I've seen comparing the two.
I'm using a 15 year old Logitech momo force feedback wheel and both games feel incredible after hundreds of hours. However, the force feedback and track design on WRC10 are so much better than Dirt that I only play the latter with friends now. I'd recommend both games, Dirt is on steam sale all the time. The tracks in both games and racing them the first handful of times are easily worth their respective price tag as familiarity is the primary killer of these games in my mind, plus the rally cross with friends is super fun!
Totally agree about familiarity being a big problem. And thanks for the kind words!
logitech reliability .... hope they make a DD wheel..... haven't let me down yet.....
I have both games and use the MOMO Force wheel too (On my second of them actually) - it´s a great wheel. I love the rubber rim.
in steam config settings for dirt 2, you can increase ffb
Wich is better? Really comes down to personal preference. I think DiRT Rally 2.0 is fine as it is. The sense of speed is more apparent in DR 2.0. In the vid i saw WRC 10 going at 150 and i kinda was „ you hit the gas yet?“
Actually there's that strange option in which you can see the "wheels speed", but you can change it to "car speed" and you'll see your actual speed (saw it today while I was playing). But I do agree in WRC 10 it doesn't feel like you're going fast or anything, but it's still satisfying (for me at least)
@Joaqu Pablo that does not matter, you can change those in setrings, what does matter is how wide track is and how it is programed
@@Bleh223 same thing for the gran turismo games. i think the reason behind that is a stiff camera and no motion blur. Also depends on which camera you use. I use interior or hood cameras only in both Wrc and dirt.
@@Bleh223 I change it but nothing changes, it feels slow compared to dirt rally 2.0
@@clive0494 it does feel much slower but the braking feels much more realistic. In dr2 I can brake with perfect precision whereas in wrc10 because I felt like I was going so slow, it took a while to gauge braking distance properly and imo thats more realistic. Still prefer dr2 but wrc10 does have some strong suits that dirt doesn't have. The engine sounds/noise in general just turns me off though. I really hope this joint venture on the next game improves the sound to dr2s level or beyond. First time I played dirt I was in love, had never played a game with sound that crisp and realistic lol.
I think the terrain in dirt rally especially the ground right off the edge of the road makes the experience much less forgiving and if your new to wheels can make it frustrating. But once you’ve got the hang of it, dirt rally really gives you the feeling of threading the needle through every corner.
I love dirt rally 2 for the realism and WRC10 for the content.
Dirt rally 2.0's loading music is so good that it makes it better than wrc10
Never underestimate the power of a good soundtrack.
@@ATribeCalledCars Everything that has to do with sound and color pallets is way better on Dirt Rally 2.0... also you should have emphasized more on how trash WRC is if you don't own a racing wheel... I've played WRC 9 on controller and wanted to sue KT for robbing me... Dirt Rally 2.0 on controller feels brilliant and very enjoyable while WRC even if I lower the sensitivity I feel like the slightest touch of my left stick makes the car twitch like crazy... I will of course NOT buy WRC 10 because I don't play enough to justify spending 300 euros on a proper wheel and pedals setup but KT should have done something to make the game playable and enjoyable on the DEFAULT INPUT METHOD of the consoles it's selling it's game for... completely unacceptable...
Also DR2.0 has a much more enjoyable driving style especially on old and in general on RWD cars... the management of throttle is brilliant and really realistic imho... I just finished a weekly with the Escort MK 2 on Argentina in DR2.0 and I managed to get into the top 100 just because most people suck at throttle management...
@@sportschool3537 I found WRC 8, WRC 9 and WRC 10 fine on controller. Just lowered the sensitivity and I was able to match some pretty fast times. Totally disagree about that and also the enjoyable driving style on RWD cars in Dirt 2.0, a lot of comments in here saying how awful it is backs me up. And WRC 10 sound is mostly as good, sometimes better. The visual differences I can agree on though, although Dirt 2.0 could do with being less washed out. Somewhere between the two would be nice!
@@ATribeCalledCars Well, probably all of those commenters push the gas a little too hard on RWD cars and spin out all the time because they have no feeling for driving and have no patience to learn a harder style of driving... and btw, RWD cars in general spin out if you're not careful with the gas in real life, so it's totally realistic... sorry, but I run perfect stages with Ford Escort MK II all the time and it's the most satisfying feeling I've ever had in a rally game... and I'm sorry but I played a weekly challenge with it yesterday and got in the top 100 and the amount of DNFs from the participants was mind blowing... especially for a car that is not hard to learn if you understand the basics of RWD driving...
So I'm sorry but I don't believe that the guys commenting about how bad RWD driving is in DR2.0 have legitimate opinions about it... they just never bothered to learn what throttle management is and they just push the pedal to the medal like it's a 4WD and then cry about how the car is uncontrollable... I'm 99.9% sure that's the reason...
I just love codemasters personally, even if they don't fall into the most popular groups or deliver as much as others... at least they give us a challenging pace with fun damage model consequences lol
agreed, lol
The real winner is Dirt Rally 1 with the realistic physics mod.
Valid point.
Lol
Nice video!Keep the good staff!Both games are a decent entry for fun .On realism poinf of view gravel on DR2 seems closer in what it shoud be - I have been working/moding/developing since 2015 (7years)on top of an already decent physics engine as AC with a motion system (to get the car what is doing) so i can achive around 85-90% tarmac feeling ,and yet there is more work.
Love both games, but I find the stages in WRC much more diverse and interesting . There are many more unique sections and challenges in WRC stages which are super fun.
I totally agree with this. I am new to both the more "recent games" but I can play WRC 9/10 for hours without getting bored, but with Dirt Rally 2.0 I get bored within minutes. The stages are a little boring
@@tsangarisrallyteam366 Do you only have the standard courses?
@@AJ-kc9up nah all of them.
Totally agree. DIRT does a lot right but there is no question which game nails the stages. They are the best stages in any rally game in my opinion.
@@tsangarisrallyteam366 I'm the same. I have really tried to like DR2 but I just don't find it as satisfying. I can't put my finger on it. I think even DR1 felt better to play.
I found this video interesting, 1 thing I'd like to point out is the number of cars. Wrc has many more but they are simply the same cars but in different teams (liveries) where as you counted the number of unique cars in DR2
Good point, slightly cheating on WRC's part. Gran Turismo also loved duplicate cars, more than Forza.
@@ATribeCalledCars overall it's a great comparison. Many DR2 fans are a bit narrow minded when it comes to accepting that some elements of wrc are better. I've always said codies and kt would make the perfect rally baby haha
I swear CM must of been too cheap to license the "Martini" liveries.
@@Stupendous855 Dude, I play Dirt Rally 2.0 and also have WRC 9 (not buying 10, 9 was a total waste of money)... I play on console and I play on a controller cause I don't play so much that spending 300-400 euros on a good wheel setup (along with a racing chair etc) would be worth my money... I'm a very good controller driver both in Dirt Rally 2.0 and in non-rally racing such as F1 etc and playing WRC on a controller is garbage... and I'm sorry but WRC is a video game... if a video game can't be played on the standard input system for gaming consoles and PCs and can only be even playable on a racing wheel then it's a total dumpster fire material... I am not narrow minded and I understand what KT is trying to do but honestly when I bought WRC 9 I wanted to sue them just cause I spent money on their garbage product that wasn't even playable unless I spent a shitload of money on a wheel setup...
And since KT does not warn potential buyers that they should buy their product only if they own a wheel I'm really pissed at them... a video game should be playable and enjoyable with every input method available, period... anything else is unacceptable and so in my book KT's game shouldn't even be allowed to hit the shelves cause 90% of players who don't own racing wheel setups are being robbed blind by KT...
I hope you understand my point of view... people want sim games but you need to consider the majority of the playerbase... not just you or just the elite few...
@@sportschool3537 I agree with you that the controller is awful on wrc9, but on the other side they do other parts of the game very well. I feel your frustration as I've been playing their games for a while and every year they make great strides in some areas, then somehow get even worse in others.
This is why I mentioned Tue combination of the 2 games would be perfect
Loving both games.. but they both need the terrain deformation system from Snowrunner!
Agreed! And SnowRunner could do with some physics improvements at speed. But otherwise it's pretty decent!
what's the point? you'll never even see it since you only drive forward
@@hundkebab2433 Well, if you aren't the first car off the line, the terrain would already been changed.. dirt could be scattered on tarmac, some puddles could have been dug deeper by the previous cars, mudpits became more fluid by other cars.. the terrain keeps evolving
@@KayoMichielseasiest way to achieve that is to design maps which look like they had a few races going on already and interchange them - something dirt rally 2.0 does with wet stages
a full terrain deformation system will take an ass load of time, work and money to implement for pretty much absolute zero gains
i've had the chance to participate to 2 rally school training (28h of theoretical+ practical courses) with a subaru impreza 2001, 280bhp. gravel feeling is definetely between RBR and dirt 2.0, not at all like WRC10. you have very good grip, even at higher speeds. but when you lose it you can totaly feel the rear slide in the wheel,very fast and you get that "skating feeling", like in RBR.
Thank you for the definitions with each category
You're welcome, thought it added some clarity and a little extra detail!
Outstanding Content buddy, great video to watch and enjoy. cheers.
Really kind of you to say, thank you. I should start doing the follow-up.
Honestly those night time extreme weather challenges in WRC 10 you said were frustrating look really fun.
They are both fun and frustrating I think, it can depend on how fast the time you are expected to beat is.
Thank you so much for this. Such a great comparison. You pointed out so many important things that most people wouldn't mention. I enjoy both games, and im glad we have both options. It breaks my heart that KT Racing is only making one more WRC game; I have a feeling the two series will have very little differences with codemasters making both (if they even decide to keep both series going).
Cheers, a few people seem to think I had an agenda but I do not actually care which rally game is better! It was about highlighting the pros and cons from my perspective as a car guy. And yeah it's a shame KT is losing the licence. Maybe Codies will surprise though.
@@ATribeCalledCars I can definitely tell you enjoy both! They definitely have their pros and cons. Hey, at least the cars should sound better in codies WRC. Lets hope for some great rally games in the future!
Good review, I've been playing dirt 2.0 and been wanting to try WRC 10 but wasn't too sure since the other ones were not as good. Like your Snow runner videos as well. You're a pretty funny dude.
Cheers David, thank you for watching "Pretty funny" is a decent compliment! Merry Christmas.
@@ATribeCalledCars lol merry Christmas to you too
supeb comparison. truly a delight to watch ♥👍
Thank you, one for WRC Generations and a certain other really game I cannot mention yet on the way.
I’ve been playing dirt rally 2.0 on controller and I’ve recently just started using a control freak on my left joy stick and it makes makin smaller corrections on controller so much easier after a lil practice and messing with settings. Would recommend if u want something cheap to enhance u experience slightly
Best way is steering wheel .
Being Italian I only drove on tarmac and snow, never tried gravel on a proper rally prepped car. I would say that hands down tarmac and mixed tarmac/snow is way better on wrc9/10. I really hate tarmac on dirt.. it is just awkward.. Gravel feels quite right on both but in my opinion wrc is still a bit better.
In my opinion rbr with some mods (I use rbr world because of the European/Italian community with many rally drivers from my country) is still the king with stages and cars selection, of course graphics/sound/co drivers etc are very old but on a sim I don't really care .
We will see what Codemasters will do with the wrc license in 2023.. I hope that they will use a new physics/graphic engine, the ego engine is now very old
The EGO engine is still a great engine and the difference between the first DR and the second is like night and day. They already rebuilt the physics engine for DR1 and improved it in DR2. The graphics in DR2 is amazing with it's handcrafted stages, even though there aren't many places. EGO is still one of the best game engines just like RAGE, UE, Source and Source2 and Unity (maybe?). PLUS, making a completely new physics and graphics engine would be very expensive and time consuming and just perfecting the EGO engine would be the best thing to do because it benefits the developers and the consumers.
@@timsik08 dude there's litteray nö physics on tarmac even in Dirt Rally 1, in fact Dirt 2 3 and 4 are better games than both Dirt Rally and raly 2. 0
Love your videos! Keep it up. Like from ProjectSimRacing.
I still haven't mastered Dirt Rally 2.0 on a controller (with wheel it's a lot easier). However I found that most cars in default are tuned default with chassis angles that is not particularly stable. Changing to something I would run on my everyday irl driver (slight toe in front/rear and negative camber) actually makes a ton of difference.
I never strayed from defaults. Thx for that tip. I will try it
WRC 10 for sure
I totally agree with you in this!
Have WRC8 and Rally2.0. I Favour Rally 2.0, although I think the latter seems to have speed caps on stretches of road that work against the user
If dirt allowed mods and had more content it would be unreal
I reside with dirt 2.0. Haven't bought wrc 10 but I love the feel of flying through fun stages in the game without really any concern or learning curve. When I tried a wrc game it felt werid, couldn't slide it how I wanted and I couldn't manipulate the car I wanted. But I like being aggressive and throwing the car sideways in a right 5 or left 6 flat out in a group b car in dirt rally.
Thanks so much for the vid! Though, a logo overlay would help keep track of which game we are talking about.
Yeah I deliberately kept each game on screen that I talk about but an overlay would have helped. I'll do it next time :)
@@ATribeCalledCars 🙂🤙
Wow It's AWESOME Review! Thanks!
Man I love WRC 10! Definitly recommend. I'm playing on ps4 so it's 30fps for me, that's not a big problem imo, but others may find it frustrating.
I was so used to 30fps for years, it's not so bad. Your eyes seem to adjust fairly quickly anyway!
Wow that’s pathetic. On Rush Rally 3 on mobile on the highest graphics settings I get 120fps using a 2020 iPad Pro.
@@iglooproductions Well it's about resolution and other stuff, 4K is considerably harder to run than lower resolutions and the quality of those visuals matter too.
Controller or wheel?
@@adnanasghar1087 wheel
I belive Dirt come out on top.
In WRC the cars feel weightless and every rock or barrier will send you to heaven. Plus I am just mad that (at least on the Portugal stages) it uses diferent track names from diferent stages for variations of a stage that isn't even named. But at least it as that rally, which is the reason that I bought.
Still they are both stil fun.
Best review ever❤
I too had issues with Dirt 2.0. But i'm not overkeen on the new WRC 10 since i was looking forward to racing the Alpine A110 and the Historic Lancias and so far ALL i can find is one stage to be raced for any Historic car. I appreciate the emphasis will be on modern machines and that's fine, but a bit more in the other direction would have been appreciated. Yes - considering the way this was reviewed and marketed i am feeling ripped off since i was looking forward to this experience and waited some months to get it. Hope it improves and does not cost much - if any - money.
Oh for sure the developers could have done a better job with the historic mode. It's just some text and a bit of video. If there is a WRC 11 maybe we will see something better, although doing the 50 years of rally celebration early makes me wonder if that will be a thing...
I like the cars and maps(especially Japan) more on WRC10, but Dirt Rally 2.0 has better graphics and the rally cross mode is fun + I love the VR feature. The problem is, I just don't have the time to play both.
@@Miguel-yx9zg It's just a game and I just want to have fun.
Killing people is wrong and illegal, but we do it all the time in games anyway.
The true answer is “both has their pros and cons. Get both and enjoy!”
I basically say that at the end somewhere, no harm in loving both right! But I think some people can only afford one or are curious how they compare.
@@ATribeCalledCars yep. I have both and both are so fun to play
Great review
I personally prefer DR2. The only thing I find better on WRC is stages and the fact it has WRC cars wich DR2 doesnt and thats about it. Want my honest opinion?! Bring the RBR NGP physics and Co-driver mod, the wrc cars and stages from wrc and everything else from DR2 and slap them together, then adjust the graphics and make setuping up a car more realistic and there you go an awesome rally sim xD
There is co-driver mode in WRC 10 in multiplayer online.
so far, i think you are the only youtuber that pointed out the "floaty" nature of the Dirt Rally 2 cars (FFB). Totally agree with that, I have same issue, and same floating over the road FFB is also present in both Project Cars 1 and 2 for me, both on PS4, PS5 and PC (T300RS). Well done!
I can’t get into WRC games they feel so cheap, graphics,sound(they’ve improved this albeit) but gameplay is still disappointing. I also found the FFB feels like the worst of any racing game I’ve played, and if I do play WRC it’s when I don’t feel like using the wheel.
Yeah DR 2.0 it feels the rear is not connected properly with the road. I think DR 1 Subaru Impreza 2001 is the most fun for me from Codies games, you can throw that into corners but not lacking or giving too much grip. But braking distances are not realistic in DR 1.
At 10:42, you said that Finland and Scotland are part of the base game, they are not however, as Finland was dlc and Scotland was included in the Colin McRae flatout pack. Only Argentena, Poland, Australia, new Zeland, Spain, and New England are part of the base game
Even though I got all the DLC for just 10€ it feels ridiculous how many iconic cars and locations are behind a paywall.
Haven't bought any WRC or Dirt game since PS3 era., so got me my first WRC (10) on PS4 tried it out and could not progress further even on the easiest setting on control pad. Checked reviews about Dirt and the highest rating was 2.0 version bought a 2nd hand copy. Superb game and Colin McRae bonus content is a big plus.
WRC 10 was particularly twitchy, even with adjustments to controller. Totally understand.
I bought WRC 10 about a month ago and every corner I crashed lol .
Then I read about changing settings and start with wrc2 cars and it completely changed my views .
Still like D2 and D3 and WRC 4 in my PS3 too .
The visuals and "liveliness" in WRC 10 are the biggest problem to me even if it's better in some aspects than DR 2.0. I think both games are good but the stages, co driver calls, scenery and sound in DR 2.0 are just a league above WRC 10's in my opinion. "Immersion" is a HUGE part of what makes a "sim" a sim to me and DR 2.0 immersion is just better hands down, But that's just my opinion. WRC 10's graphics to me are just too "sharp" and doesn't have near as good of a "sense of speed" in my opinion.. WRC 10 is just too "clinical" and "corporate" for my taste and really lacks emotion compared to DR 2.0.
It only took me 1 stage on WRC 10 with hearing how my favorite rally car (the 037) sounded for me to go "nope that's completely wrong" and then I lost some immersion because of that. While The 037 on DR 2.0 is spot on. It's a small gripe but it matters. I think WRC 10 while it may have more "depth" like you said just doesn't give me the pure adrenaline or the "Let's do this" feeling that DR 2.0 gives me. Good video though, I liked seeing someone else give their opinion and break it down. It is also worth noting that I own all the DLC for DR 2.0 so I could see someone maybe being a bit disappointed with the level of content in DR 2.0 if they just bought the base game, as a lot of cool and legendary cars are indeed locked behind DLC.
I could however see someone being really happy with WRC 10 if they hadn't played any other rally game in the last few years or DR 2.0 was too hard for them.
Wow good comment man. Ever play Rush Rally 3 on mobile?
@@iglooproductions Thanks! No I've never played that on mobile. I didn't even know there was a rally game on mobile.. I might have to check it out! I have played Real Racing 3 on mobile though, judging by the names they sound like they could be made by the same developers.
Your comment is so good, it almost makes me not want to buy WRC10 😂.
But I love dirt rally 2.0 so much I have to give it a try
@@luissandoval1515 Thanks! Always had a knack for feeling out racing games/sims I feel. Nothing inherently wrong with WRC 10 just not my cup of tea.
How can you say that dirt stage are better than wrc 10😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦
what are the odds that I'm listening to a tribe called quest while I stumble upon your channel
Sounds like it was meant to be!
Thank you
in wrc10 i still play with the standard sensitivity and i find it pretty ok to drive, yes i sometimes oversteer or overcorrect but thats rallying
Whatever works best for you, I am probably a bit heavy-handed hence it's better I reduce sensitivity. Sounds like you're more precise!
For me, Dirt Rally 2.0 is miles better than WRC10!!
I own Dirt 1, 2, 3, 4, (missed Dirty Rally for some reason) Dirt Rally 2.0, WRC 9 & 10. I loved all of the Dirt series except 3, because of all the Gymkana bullshit. After playing WRC 9 for a year or so I bought 10 about 2 weeks ago and just got the 21 Gig patch on Saturday. Some where between Dirt Rally 2 & WRC 9 I upgrade to a Thrustmaster TX Servo with a Sparco R383 Mod with T3PA pedals on an Xbox 1 X. I don't see how a anyone can say the like controller better than a wheel, but that's an argument for another day. Don't really remember where I was going with this but I would say the entirety of the Dirt series is very easy to drive and configure. I made very few adjustments When I purchase WRC 9 I had issues with the button and pedal bindings (have it worked out now) and I had a very difficult time setting the control inputs to my liking. It was so bad I almost gave up and deleted it from my system. For some reason I purchased WRC 10 and I love it. I haven't confirmed this by playing WRC 9 again, but after lots of hours with WRC 10 I think it was my driving style. I don't know if its the difference in physics between the different games, but I developed a driving style in Dirt where I basically over drive the car and WRC won't tolerate that type of driving. I've had to become much more smooth with the throttle and much less heavy footed. Somewhere in there I went to a 2 footed driving style. Might be some difference there as well. Anyway, I guess I said all of that to say this. I agree with your assessment. I like WRC 10 better. Hopefully, in the takeover they won't shitcan WRC altogether and they will incorporate the better qualities into the Dirt Series.
One question: are both quattro's the same category? If i'm right there are two versions of it. An Group A and a Group B version. It would explain the massieve power differance and the early iteration of the Group B Quattro's didn't have the extreme aero. Love the video's.
Yup both quattros are group B. The power difference is probably due to DiRT Rally 2's quattro being a later version compared to WRC 10's. Also, WRC 10 has 2 quattros, the Audi Quattro A1 and the Audi Sport Quattro. The A1 and later A2 quattro (both Group B) are older Audi Quattros that was later replaced by the sport quattro which was a lot shorter and had a steeper windscreen. However, in WRC 10 the Sport Quattro seems to be just a re-skin of the A1 Quattro, having the same long wheelbase and more tilted windscreen.
Both are fun but since WRC gets the stage design so much better than DR2 that if you’re trying to decide in Jan’23 I’d go with WRC, though the last Generations game can’t seem to get the handbrake right so if want to save some cash try 8,9,10
What about the clutch in WRC 10? I was disappointed when I found out, that in WRC9 was using clutch with older manual cars pointless. You could literally swap gears without ever using it and that was the main reason why I sticked to Dirt Rally. Even tho the stages were much more fun and FFB clearly better in WRC I was playing Dirt Rally because of this single fact. So does the WRC 10 changed in this regard or is still the same?
Rally drivers clutch less shift.
I'm sure I'm gonna be in the minority but I like the look of wrc9 I haven't even played wrc10. Dirt Rally 2.0 is good but I like the realistic locations of WRC. DR2 from what I've seen is always in the woods with nothing really to look at- a few variety of flowers and shrubs but mostly trees on both sides of the roads. Wrc9 is like real locations and houses, mountains, waterfalls, oceans, lakes- it looks beautiful to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Look like we both belong to the minority
@Vijay's PS5 Live Stream PlayStation 5 I didn't say dirt 2.0 wasn't good.
The lighting efecks are are some of the best I've seen in 2.0 beauifil
Hard to believe got dirt rally 2 on plus about 8 months after release and today, same thing with wrc10 on now.
Best part is I nearly tried wrc8 or 9 at discount over weekend and ended up getting 10 for free
Timed it well, hopefully you are enjoying both.
I need help mapping multiple USB inputs hand brake pedals shifter just cant get it 2 f,n work correct .doing my head in ..its sees everything but will not map what am i missing?
Looked like you counted different liveries as separate cars in WRC 10, but in Dirt 2.0 you didn't. (Would have resolved in a lot more cars for Dirt 2.0.)
I love these games in fact Dirt 4 got me into rally racing now my favorite Motorsport, but personally having both Dirt rally 2.0 and WRC 10 I can say that I over all prefer WRC 10 and that’s saying something I have WRC 8 and did not enjoy it compared to Dirt rally 2.0 but just like Ben has said my opinion probably doesn’t matter both are good though.
Man I wish they built upon Dirt 4 for 5, I loved that game but it needed more locations.
@@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixes dirt 5 sucked really bad. Prime example of looking amazing (visuals) and gameplay being subpar
WRC series and it’s not even close. I understand the graphics complaints but there’s more stage detail in WRC. Plus for me, graphics come second to physics for racing games and WRC feels like a genuine SIM where Dirt feels more like an arcade racer - cars have little dynamics and you don’t feel weight pitch and surface changes. Plus WRC is way harder and disciplines you to really balance throttle and brake input.
hi, whats the bgm during the gravel segment?
WRC 10 not having VR, as tempted as I was, is a no-go for me. Dirt 2 in VR is simply incredible.
Definitely a shame it never got it.
Yeah honestly if you haven't played in VR you haven't played a Rally game. For me at least there is no going back at all one you've experienced it. Driving on a TV or monitor feels like remote controlling a toy car with a phone. I feel absolutely crippled by the lack of depth perception.
just by watching this video, 120kmh looks pretty slow in wrc when looking at the environment, but it feels already really fast in dirt 2. for me, wrc doesnt bring the speed feeling that makes me scared of the next hard corner.
use same fov in both games, problem solved.
In DR 2.0 you can use a h-pattern with properly working gearbox and clutch on the Classic cars, ones that had full manual rather than Sequential gearing. Is WRC 10 realistic in this regard for its historic cars? bearing in mind the focus of the game is mainly on the current sequential WRC cars.
Of course you can use the H shifter and clutch on WRC’s older cars too.
Hi, So i found something online that states Dirt Rally 2.0 out of the box has really crappy force feedback support.
If you google the fix for it, you can go into the internal files and adjust the level of FFB you get.
It completely gave me a new game. 52nd in the world Bidno Moorland Reverse NR4. Dropped almost 600 spots with that fix.
As someone with 50+ hours in WRC9/10 and Dirt Rally 1/2, I can safely say that WRC comes out on top. Its stage design and tarmac physics are just so much better. Never really got the hate on its graphics either, I think they look great.
Graphics aren’t rly important, but have you played rally 1 and 2 with a fanatec wheel or better? If not then it might explain your preference of wrc. You need a high end wheel base to understand the genius of codemasters games. To each their own though
@@As5Hat nah DR2 is absolutely garbage , the car feels like it doestn have suspension and floats in air and slides like on oil. the car acts so badly in dirt rally, its an arcade game for kids
@@L0CALDRUGMAN to each their own
@@As5Hat dirt rally 1 had better physics than 2 its really sad
When you think 50 hours in a racing sim gives you even the slightest bit of insight. Most people commenting here probably have hundreds.
Very nice review! Finally a person that doesn't make random critics to WRC 10
Cheers! I honestly try to review everything with as little bias as possible. Often I'll go into something thinking what to expect and then finding out I was totally wrong. I guess it's good to challenge assumptions.
Dirt rally 2.0. VR. Your favorite group B. Mixed surface track. Hit the turbo. Nuff said.
Definitely a good time if you have a good PC!
I have them both from ps plus ,i play them on ps5 + TGT2 Steering wheel .I like WRC more because have thrust master options and the game running great on 120 Hz update now .Just my opinion both are great anyway ;) have fun ...
Thank you for this material, you rock man, great video.
forgot to mention that I have 1,098 hours played on Dirt 2.0 and as you said now I have a happy problem, download and evaluate WRC Generations....
WRC 10 is just more polished and better value for money great review
In my opinion,
Biggest plus for WRC 9: I feel every bump and car orientation. If right tire goes on a little bumb, i feel that little bump ON Right tires.
Biggest plus for Dirt Rally 2.0: I feel gravity, turning wheel and engine throttling very closely as real driving.
A rally game releasing without force feedback on wheel support seems like quite a large feature that should be implemented in a game before releasing that's like releasing say a football game without a football haha
I was obsessed with Dirt, I’ve always been Rally games mad back to original McRae in 90’s, I couldn’t get into 2.0, was never into the WRC games till Generations recently I love the WRC hybrids in it, I’ve just downloaded 2.0 again and I am going to get stuck in.
So I play dirt rally 2.0 and I switched from control to a racing rig and it is way better. Adding an actual good e brake to my rig was a game changer. I can't wait to try wrc10.
Because Dirt is arcade gameplay;. WRC is more difficult, because lifelike car control.
@@ivanyiattila3547 we're talking about dirt rally 2.0
Dirt 4, 5 or whatever, that's the Forza of rally games.
Easy to answer: the best is RBR with RSF plugin.
Fantastic UA-cam video, sir.
You're too kind, feel free to check out my WRC Generations review. I'd say it handles better than both of the games on comparison here.
Gotta give credit to the graphics in dirt 2.0 however wrc is so much fun with its diverse stages and dynamic weather and official cars. I have both and i always find myself playing wrc more
Yeah I like the style of Dirt Rally 2.0. Wish I could say more about its sequel...
I cordially disagree with "difficult to handle oversteer", "Many drifts are unsavable" and I play with the real degrees of rotation, not 360 or 450...
You just need to have good throttle control and use it with the steering to have a really enjoyable experience. And on snow the best is snowrunner 😆😆
@TL Racing GT They don't understand car control, yes!!! To this problem setups is the same as rotation angles lol
what do you consider "real degrees", because every rally driver I've have ever seen IRl uses 360 degrees because it lets them react faster
Beamng is another great rally sim just need to get mods for pace notes.
That would be cool!
Bought durt rally 2.0 for 10 bucks on offer up, just bought wrc 10 on xbox live for 10 bucks today on sale, can't wait to try it cuz I'm loving dirt rally 2.0 the past month
Winter tires can get you some pretty powerful grip on snow and ice these days. The studs on those things are absolutely, hilariously large. I also find it annoying how fast tires wear out in these games.
I have both games on pc I just find WRC10 more fun to drive on the whole, thats not to say i dislike DR2.0 im not very good at either game so i am hardly tearing up the leaderboards 😊, I think graphically DR2.0 is presented slightly better but the lack of the uptodate WRC cars is a downside for that title imho but then Rallycross is a big plus DR2.0 is cheap enough to buy now with all the DLC so I dont see any reason not to own both games.
Seeing as codemasters is officially going to be making the future WRC games hopefully they work out some of the issues of both titles, tbf DR2.0 has been really pushed out without great incentive but it has done well, now with the WRC name at their back they will hopefully make an epic title because I think they have the potential to make the greatest rally game in history now.
Personally WRC 10 is the better game, especially when you get your wheel settings dialled in right. I still enjoy playing DR 2.0 often though!
So, totally unrelated but I rewatched your earlier snowrunner vids recently - was the mech game you talked about Phantom Crash on OG Xbox?
If so - your taste is more impeccable than I thought 😁
It absolutely was Phantom Crash, I have been playing it on and off recently. Epic game that would work so well as an online remaster.
I play and enjoy both very much.
That's what I like to hear, I did the video more to work out the differences. Not create a divide, both are great games.
I like both, the physics of Dirt seem too exaggerated in terms of weight, becoming truly tortuous in terms of weight transfer change. Since WRC 10 came out with its great content in historical cars and its improvement in the FFB and physics of the cars, for me the winner is WRC 10. There is also the issue of paying for the cars, it is something I hate, they do not have enough with the money in the game?, no, you have to pay to have this or that car, and for that alone it is a WRC 10 winner. Greetings. Sorry for the translation.
Just a tip wait for a steam sale and buy the game got DR2 for like 20 bucks with most of the dlc.
While I do love Dirt Rally 2.0 WRC 10 earns my vote
Nice video! Most people seem to forget that a driving game being 'harder' does not mean it to be better or realistic, also the standard content of Dirt 2.0 was hilariously lacking.
Thanks, Hugo. Definitely seems like a common misconception. And you're right about the standard content.
Get WRC 10 it's on sale on the PlayStation store for 11.99$ till the 31st of March 2022!!! Same with the first Dirt Rally for 5$ not 2.0 but still for less than 20$ for both games you are getting so much racing content!!!
Good to know, cheers! Definitely a lot of racing game fun for not a lot of money.
Spot on review. Dirt Rally 3.0 will be the be-all-end-all Rally Simulator. I prefer the pace notes in DR 2.0 and the ability to play WRC 10 with a control and default settings.
I own both these games but I also recommend The Art of Rally. Doesn’t have VR but the sounds and graphics are amazing.
I love AOR but I wouldn't lump it in as a rally sim. Id more call it a unique indie racer.
@@neblolthecarnerd True. Just trying to get more people to discover AOR. I didn’t realize that it came out on the Switch earlier this month. That’s a better platform for it until WRC 10 eventually comes out on the Switch.
@@TheCe1ticZombie AOR on switch runs quite bad. With a lot of pop in. I play on Xbox personally but it's coming to PlayStation in October so very soon.
Dirt Rally 3 will be the first EA Codemasters game. Dirt Rally 2.0 was already a hell-hole of paid DLC and content paywalls; expect a disaster.
@@BongoBaggins I’m cautiously optimistic. Could always wait for the Game of the Year edition and save some money. Will see how Grid Legends turns out since that will be released in 2022.
The more I look at Dirt Rally 2.0 the less I can stand the exaggerated bloom and fog. Like, dude, we get it, you can do bloom and fog, stop it now. I appreciate the contrast on WRC.
You can turn it off
you can turn it off and the game looks freaking gorgeous
Except the night lighting is unrealistic as can be. WRC has terrible lighting that never got addressed in 9 and carried on to 10.
That's why i keep those effects only in replays where i want the camera lens feeling, but when i drive those settings are off. Except for bloom with that off you break the game's lighting expecially at night, so keep that on... with the other effects off, Bloom it's also not annoin.
What's completely pointless?? GOD RAYS! They must be always off, i'm playing a rally game not a Michael Bay movie!!
I've installed wrc 10 for free with the new ps plus and I've bought dirt 2.0 gotye for sale and they are amazing
Glad to hear it, it's really worth playing both as they have their own strengths and weaknesses!
I wish WRC10 had VR then I would try it. I will stick to DR2 for now. At 120hz in Pimax headset with wheel, pedal, shifter, handbrake, buttkickers, etc the experience is just insane.