Dune Director David Lynch on Why His Film Is NOT Like Star Wars (Flashback)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- 'Dune' turns 40! Director David Lynch and Kyle MacLachlan spoke with ET in 1984 about the first on-screen adaptation of Frank Herbert's best-selling novel, 'Dune.' David explains why his film is not like 'Star Wars' and Kyle talks about his first ever on-screen role. Plus, author Frank Herbert shares what it was like watching the crew create 'Dune's massive sandworms.
Nobody can deny the amount of creativity that went into this version of Dune. It really felt like another world on screen.
Agreed. Cult classic for a reason.
I really wish they had gotten Lynch back for the new movie to rebirth it at 100%
@@fellowcitizenEven if they asked Lynch, no way he would have done it. Making Dune is why he never wanted to direct another hollywood movie ever again. I think he had such an awful experience there isnt enough money in the world to make him come back.
Quite so, but if he were convinced and given free reign with that budget it would have been interesting. More interesting than the new pedestrian one.@@1183newman
@@fellowcitizen Hellllllllllll no. Leave the old Dune to Lynch. The new one was just fine without him.
Saw this in 1984 when it came out and as a fan of the books didn’t what to expect. I was blown away. It’s part of my collection and one of my favourites.
I own the four hour version in the collectible tin 👍
Did anyone else have the "DUNE Terminology" one-sheets in their theaters when this came out? It explained all of the houses and planets and everything, apparently it was needed for audiences back then who hadn't read the books. We didn't have UA-cam videos to explain for us back then 😁
I liked this version of DUNE because of its esoteric, almost ethereal feel to it. As if the universe could just vanish in a puff of smoke for no real reason. It gave it a mystical feel and I liked that.
Ultimate irony is star wars was literally based off of Dune. Lucas stated this
Star Wars has a lot of inspirations, and is so different from Dune in so many ways that I think saying its "based off of" is going a bit far. I would say the ww2 footage played a bigger inspiration than Dune just off of the vibe of the films
the art from star wars was ALLLLLL inspired by Moebius check out his drawings some of them look like a star wars comic, also the inspiration for blade runner
I loved the picture from the first time I saw it. I wasn't in a large city to see it when it first came out but as soon as it came to video I was there. I was amazed and instantly fell in love with the movie. Having previously read the books I enjoyed it even more. Amazing special effects, sound, acting and sets knocked my socks off and still does. The worms were so realistic that I could almost smell the spice. The space folding creature still stands out ( although it does look like a teacher that I had back in highschool)
The Scy-fi network version was good mostly because it was a miniseries but it's second on my list . A sci-fi enthusiasts dreams fulfilled. Thanks for one of my favorite go to films.
It's got it's problems and many edited versions, but I still like this original. Nice job per usual, Ash!
1:06 Kyle Maclachlan on a schooner, fancy that...
2 hour 51 minutes version available on UA-cam
The Spice Diver fan-edit, yeah - but make sure to watch the 4K re-mastered version of it; that's on UA-cam for free, as well.
@@redadamearth i have watched it bro beautifully edited
Thanks for letting me know that
To me and my inner-fanboy, yes the Spicer edit is my favorite cut. If that was released and seen by today’s fans, this movie would have such a better reputation
Probably closest thing possible to a Lynch cut
"A lot of people spend their day never thinking about a worm."
Such a David Lynch thing to say.
The film got so much right. If only the executives had given Lynch the last cut.
Got the entire point of dune wrong and made Paul an actual god. Completely fails the books
@@DR-es5ey I didn't know there was only one, "entire point".
@@DR-es5eyi prefer it tbh, paul being some weird villain is kind of wack
Not in the original screenplay. The ending we got isn't Lynch's it's Dino's rain.
@@Concreteowl you can find the screenplay online. Lynch wrote it. He wrote the ending we got.
I still love this version.
But then, Ive loved every thing Lynch has done.
Villeneuve's films are way better imo, but I do really like a lot of about Lynch's film. I ADORE the soundtrack and the production design. It's so distinctive and memorably weird. The intro with Virginia Madsen is so otherworldly and the end credit sequence is so hypnotically calming.
I love this movie, the first time i watched it was stretching over a longer time, mostly i tunred it off or did not have time, or there was another movie i prefered at that date. When you are young even if you just know bits and pieces your fantasy is forming a picture or a perception and an impression was made instantly. But then one day the time was right and i had gotten my first small late 70s tv set with 8 buttons, loved the feel of those buttons, every button was canceling the other and made it pop out followed by a satisfying click.. and there it was and i had time and i was free enough to not have any struggle or problem at that time and i watched it through and this is a moment no one can take away from me, me my big room , the big windows with hundreds of meters that i can oversee, the night, my youth and that film. That was when i started watching anything that i found odd when i was younger. Watching weird movies on neglected official channels the fewest cared for. That time lasts from 96 to 2006
It sounds like a great movie
It's a fantastic movie. Check it out for yourself. You could be amazed!
And the best version of the movie 😏
@@sekimoki3024 cope
You gotta love the comment section of 50-year-old dudes who swear the '80s version is better than the ones out now 😂
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LOL exactly. Bunch of geriatrics singing about the good old days. Sad.
I’m 24 and anything Lynch makes is going to be better than anything that any other director makes. The 1984 Dune is legitimately better than the new version, but you need a certain level of artistic sense to see that.
Actually in contrary to common belief, Dune was not an office bomb.
It was not very successful, but it got its money back and made some profit in foreign markets.
I would really like it if some of these guys had a role in the third sequel of the Villeneuve version. At least a minor role. That would be cool!
No. Villeneuve wanted as much separation from that corny ass, community theater looking thing as possible.
@clapdrix72 The new movies are fantastic, but aside from not getting Paul was not a hero, the old one too. I would kill to see "community theater" on that level of set design wirh actors like Freddie Jones and Dean Stockwell, lmfao.
@@ericjohnson9623 Say what now?
Kyle could have been the father of Paul in this one
The 1984 Dune was ALL about spice, and why it was so vital to all the Great Houses. Neither of the recent Dune's went into any depth on this at all - NOTHING about the Spacing Guild, travelling without moving.. any of it - I think the power of spice is mentioned briefly in the first one, and certainly not in the second.
I love DN's past movies - Arrival and in particular the new Blade Runner, but he dropped the ball terribly, especially with this year's second part. How could someone who loves Dune so much, ditch the absolute main essence of the books, instead focusing on a love story, at the death of what made Dune so special in the first place? Also, in the new movie, Paul drinks the water of life, but it's (again) completely skimmed over here.. I mean, after all, this one incident is arguably the most important in all of the Dune books.
Say what you like about David Lynch's movie, but he sure as hell kept the story much more closer to his heart than these new one's have.
Someone posted here that you can watch the nearly 3 hour version for free here on YT of the 1984 movie. Do yourself a huge favor if you haven't seen it already - watch it, and then you'll completely understand what I'm conveying here.
This is false on so many levels. Spice is a focal point of the new dune movies. They mention the importance of it in the first one in those film books, then emphasize it with how many scenes there are of spice harvesting and how important it was to get it on track. It showed the effects of the spice when paul was exposed to it in great detail. Second movie the harkonnens are desperate to get spice production back under control. And at the end paul threatens the great houses by stopping spice production altogether which he knows would result in a full scale war.
Idk what you were watching. They didnt spoonfeed you exposition about it like the 1984 movie does or the way the book does, cause thats how a book is supposed to be, not a movie. The movie SHOWS you the importance of it while touching on it verbally enough so the audience knows. This is an awful take based in a lot of lies about the movie. The “love story” aspect is literally a side story in the second part, and is still important so the audience buys into them as a couple. The prophecy, bene gesserit, fremen culture in general are all shown more than the “love story” aspect.
@@chrismalinowski654 Spice is anything but a focal point in the new movies..
Spice is at the epicenter of how & why the great houses are at war. Spice is also the sole reason all the movies are set on Arrakis, and Spice is absolutely why just about every aspect of Dune exists - without it - there is no Dune.
The new movies for me fell way, way short of incorporating any of this; and that's not even focusing on the Spacing Guild, the Navigators, Folding space, or the Holtzman Effect in space travel - again, every one of these are essential to discovering why Dune is so awesome in the first place.
I'm not looking to argue with any one about any of this, as it's just my opinion, but one cannot deny the fact these new movies completely fell short of incorporating these most important topics.
@@user-kn6eg5jg7e Yeah, I felt pretty down in the cast too, though Austin Butler and Javier Bardem were certainly standouts.
I feel that with a total running time of over five and a half hours, and from a director like Denis Villeneuve, who apparently adores Dune, why the hell could he not (at the very least) incorporate the most fundamental aspects of the Dune universe, that make it so absolutely wonderful.
Say what you like about Lynch’s movie, but at least he tried to incorporate as much of the books as he could, in only half the time of these new movies.
The 1984 version dared to be something very different, while keeping the DNA of Dune intact; something direly and painfully missing from a director who could have nailed it!
Ive only seen the new film, haven seen the old one or read the book. i'm disappointed. hi-def monochrome, one thing happening after the other...strangely unmoved by it. i saw no artistic value 🤷♂
sounds like you have no idea what the books were about, dude.
I agree with Lych, it is a cool movie. And Kyle nailed it.
I like both dunes 1984 2021 2024
Those are three movies. You can't use the word 'both'.
@@Desi_Midget but yes........yes he can......human language needs to be butchered , dimanteled and rearranged...and misssssspelllleddd.....i am here to do that intense oblivation of contentifiedraded more of ridz of shaloooon moonsss spent onnndivert intensityzzz
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4:49 Why Leo to Scorsese? Why not Michael Biehn to James Cameron or Bruce Campbell to Sam Raimi?
Why not Tommy Wiseau to himself?
Kinski to Herzog
Much cooler than Villeneuve's version. Lynch is a genius!
It's mind-blowing to me that do many people think just because it's a space movie, it's like Star Wars. Good lord people. Watch a couple movies!
Despite seeing Dune and Twin Peaks, whenever I see Kyle Maclaughlin I hear the line "Bite my butt. Bite it! Make it bleed" from SNL
George Lucas borrowed from Dune for Star Wars. The film score by Toto was incredible.
Nope in fact some people speculate Star Wars ripped off Dune, the book not the movie.
Star Wars copied Dune so much.
I do love David Lynch's bonkers approach to everything.
One of my favourite movies by David lynch
Seeing Picard in dune was funny 😅
Yay, three movies of book one.
When TF will someone have the ballz to make the other books into movies?
Thanks for this video. Very, very, very interesting !!!
It should have been made in 2 parts
Paul is one of Kyle's hero figures? I suppose he never got to Dune Messiah. Then again, the '84 film reframes the results of Paul's hero journey.
Im not gonna be all pretentious and pretend this movie is a better adaptation of Dune. But it certainly has Lynch flavour
I like this movie it’s not that visually perfekt like the new one but more intense and amazing visuals
Best movie ever. So much better than the new one.
LOL
Money. The producers were saving money on everything. They even shared a cafeteria with the production of Conan the barbarian as it was being filmed at the same time.
Still the best Dune
Hell naw
@@breslinhoward6992 hell yo!
I totally agree, Lynch is just so far ahead of what Denis could ever achieve unfortunately.
It was ruined by the studio and Lynch had his name removed.
So it probably has to do with influences available. Villenuve uses 90.s manga. I tend to think that storytelling was a lot better before 2010, using creative artists.
Dune 1984 gets better with age!!!!
All the locations in the new one have the same bland brutalist architecture. David Lynch made every planet look entirely different. His characters were more likeable. Better performances in general from the lead actors. Denis Villeneuve brings us a miserable vision of the far future with a dusty desaturated desert. Composed for IMAX then arbitrarily cropped for most of us.
Villeneuve makes boring movies .. Who cares if they're cropped. Can't care about the visuals if you can't care about the characters. I haven't enjoyed a single movie of his I've tried. He's all style, not substance. He makes bad movies but Hollywood has always been great at fooling people. It's even more of a feat considering how they've also brainwashed people through the internet. Watching these people chatter about this junk makes them look like a herd of zombies .. If you disagree with their programmed ideas.. they'll try and bite you. It's pretty funny. Drinking that Kool-Aid for sure.
@@Fiveash-Art100% agree with you
Yeah he made geidi prime look like a warehouse in Culver City
@@Fiveash-ArtTotally agree, DV’s Blade runner sequel was also A stinking pile…..I saw The 2 nd part of DV’s Dune last week and man it had no creativity or subtlety to the story telling and the acting was just flat. Lynch’s version is so much better.
The 80's DUNE is truer than the current and does a great work to stay true to the story. The modern dune is a watered down slow chug of a wanna be train that lacks the effort it truly deserved. Should have taken as much of the original cast, in my opinion, from the 80's version. Could have made such a better picture!
Villeneuve's adaptation changes and omits some things, but he keeps the core and message of the story. Lynch's Dune also has changes + it betrays the central message of Herbert's books.
Yeah they could have had a 70 year old Paul. True to the books! 😂
Not even kinda, even a little bit bruh! I grew up with this version and had loved it back then. Read the actual books as I got older, and must say that even for the nostalgic value of Lynch's original version; Denis Villeneuve has managed to uncannily visualize and seamlessly translate the book! It's no wonder why people are making the comparison to Peter Jackson when he made The Lord of the Rings! There aren't many directors who can make a film so close to It's original source material! ....that being said, I will always treasure the Lynch film. But in terms of being a truer vision to the books! It's not even a contest
Kind of manipulative for this video to come out now when David lunch has stated numerous times since that he does not have fond opinions of this film.
Remember he took his name off of it.
The original version of Dune
David Lynch should of directed Oppenheimer. Lynch is the director for nuclear bomb and lots of desert. The producers took over Dune. It's not really a David Lynch film.
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I saw a guy say he preferred Baron Harkonnen in Lynch’s version. Absolutely tripping.
The Lynch's Baron is really the most memorabe of the Lynch movie, he steals every scenes and he feels like a real threat compared to do modern version
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David Lynch's Dune is more entertaining than new dune.
I am sure that back in 1965 as how the world and political climate was back then, the novel was the epitome of science fiction and fantasy, with also its elements of Islam, for people to be amazed and captivated by.
However in 2024.... If you like "Game Of Thrones" drama and sci-fi, then its for you. Otherwise it is a borefest from beginning to end.
It's not like Star Wars, because it sucks.
David lynch has got to be the most overrated director of all time
According to you
Two years later Frank Herbert died.
Forty years later and Kyle still has awesome hair. Wow.
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David Lynch as well, his like 78 now but still has awesome hair. Meanwhile im in my 30s and losing mine lol
It's odd that he would turn down Star Wars only to accept Dune. He wouldn't have let Lucas interfere on his set, that's for sure.
(Although it doesn't seem like the actual director of Return of the Jedi was aware of how much Lucas messed with the shoot. He really believed it was his film.)
I like the new Films much, but it lacks the feeling of Lynchs version. For example the Harkonnen are just brutal, but in Lynch's version they are disturbing and crazy
Thats in part 1 in part 2 for some reason other than Butler's character the harkonnen turn to storm troopers. Thr fall off is quite precipitous
Even David lynch doesn't like this movie lol. Alejandro Jodorowsky would have made a better version and it's a shame he didn't get that chance.
I am now convinced that The Preacher character should be played by Kyle MacLachlan as he is now. How cool would that be. IF they ever go that far in the story that is.
Sorry to say but this movie was wonky even by 1984 standards, perhaps a level above Flashgordon but not as campy, and we really can't blame the times when Star Wars and Alien had been released years earlier. Lynch is great but this is not his genre, it took visionaries like Lucas and Ridley Scott to tackle such ambitious sci-fi projects - especially in those times.
I personally would have loved to see Alejandro Jodorowsky's version come to fruition. I have no doubt that it would have been one of the wildest rides in motion picture history. Even before Star Wars.
I actually like this better than the new film. It's got more character.
It's good to hear someone say that. I agree
It's still one of my favorite go to films. I wasn't impressed with the new version. They injected portions of this movie into it
@@ericjohnson9477 I enjoyed Denis film, it just feels much more generic and safe. Not nearly as fever dreamy
@@dobi287 That's the "SPICE" talking. It worms it's way into the psyche.
The characters are memorable, which makes a big difference.
For aesthetic and visual imagery, I go with Lynch.. That’s it.. For script and pacing I go with Denis.. Denis’ visual aeasthetic is boring af, not just a lack of weirdness but it is devoid of any iconic flair..
I’m a nostalgic I prefer David’s to the new one .
Same. Villanue's Dune just looks Ike Blade Runner in the desert. It has poor pacing too.
@@XDWX Agree, half the book and plots are missing in both the movies.
@laxminarayananks1520 I think the cheesy low budget sci-fi channel mini series is the best out all the movies.
OTHER (long) series besides comedy of course ,five to NINE SEASONS , around 300 minutes or 5 hours for every season clocks in between 15👉🏻30👉🏻45 HOURS (lets say 30 hours on average),
much nonsensical , regurgitations of the same after season 4 or 5 over and over again, no new ideas, just more cashmaking , and here we have NOT one fat dune book but SEVEN with thousands of pages which should be SUFFIECIENT for 30+ hours but what do hollywood do?? launch a miniserie than ranges less than 4 hours for all thIS material...??
then we have upon that 3 movies so far + the last one coming in 3 years i believe making it 8 hours, so 12,5 hours in total spanning over 40 years, three different companies, no unity or coop whatsoever.... together not more than HALF the hours many other series has had in 10-15 years each sometimes even less !!! why??
whats wrong w effing hollywood man?? i dont know if some very powerful figures in Hollywood ACTIVILY is sabotaging this franchice but isnt it a little weird folks...?
no matter yes or no to this question i feel embarrassed on hollywoods behalf and feel sorry for mr herbert laying in his grave...look at this list and groan!! :
"The Office" (US) (2005-2013)
"The Big Bang Theory" (2007-2019)
"Game of Thrones" (2011-2019)
"Breaking Bad" (2008-2013)
"Dexter" (2006-2013)
"24" (2001-2014)
here are some more TV series with at least 5 seasons and 30 episodes:
"The X-Files" (1993-2002, 2016-2018)
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997-2003)
"Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (2001-2011)
"CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" (2000-2015)
"Grey's Anatomy" (2005-present)
"Criminal Minds" (2005-2020)
"Supernatural" (2005-2020)
"Doctor Who" (2005-present)
"House, M.D." (2004-2012)
"Bones" (2005-2017)
Dynasty (1981-1989) - 9 seasons
FALCON CREST (?)
4400 (?)
Sons of Anarchy (2008) - 7 seasons
Ally McBeal (1997-2002)
- 5 seasons, 23 episodes, 17,5 hours
AND THERE ARE AT LEAST 5 more i know of but dont remember name of and 15 more i never even heard of on some lists and go to wiki (15 additional series?) and look for yer self the list of long tv series so disgustingly long compared to this, absolute mockery of this Franchise!!
so pls u do the math excatly how wild it is, yes i know many shows have been cancelled, yes i know competition is proabably high but still, NO other franchices has been around the 60s (except dr.who?) that have NEVER gotten what it deserves in the spotlight of a LONG SERIE...
40 years this year since this ORIGINAL movie came out , FORTHY effing YEEEARS ppl!!! WTF??
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I just saw the spice diver cut of this film an hour ago. And I saw Dune part 2 a day ago. I may be crazy but this film had a little more soul than Dune part 2.
Exactly brother thank you someone else feels the same 😊
What is the spice diver cut?
》Although I've already heard about that issue of him not being able to final cut his (actual) version, which would have been different from the commercial one, "Dune" isn't just a cool movie but, indeed, it's a master's peace, state of the art production that captures our attention until nowadays.
If Frank Herbert were alive today, I wonder how he would feel about Villeneuve's Dune. I enjoy Lynch's Dune, Both TV series, and especially Villeneuve's.
It's weird watching it now and recognising all the actors. Although it was flawed, it had a fantastic aesthetic. It's far more interesting than the very safe and pedestrian Dune with Lisa Bonet's bf (though I haven't seen the sequel, so maybe that raises it somehow.)
Dune isn’t like Star Wars. Star Wars is like dune. The sandcrawler on tattooine is the spice mining machine from arrakis, jabba is emperor leto, the space slug on the asteroid is a shai hulud, the bene gesserit and mentats are jedi, the stormtroopers are saudukar, and greedo is a spacing guild navigator
This film was silly campy expensive space junk
Though it’s fun to watch for the goof factor
You’re just not smart enough.
@daniellewis5474 absolutely 💯
Villanueve relied on much Lynch ....fact stuff that wasn't in the book like the oil bathing Baron and the talking fetus Alia...oh yeah and the humongous ships, and the Sardaukar rubber suits
None of these things are in Lynch's movie lol
"A lot spend their days, not thinking about a worm"
No no no the crazy professor the rats sting in a codpiece ! Kyle was good though
I was especially taken by the force field effect and Evil Sting
This is the original dune masterpiece
I love lynch but man am I so glad he didn't direct Empire Strikes Back.
It was Return of the Jedi he turned down.
Great film.
Enjoy a lot of Lynch, but his Dune is frankly terrible.
Can we take a second to appreciate Lynch dropping his style code and rocking a black leather jacket. Suave!
He looks great but that's 101 basic male fashion it's not like it's high style fashionista drip.
there is the suffering songwriter that will have a brakedown if he is forced to listen to an old song and then you got STING someone who would play Fragile, doing close dancing with miley cyrus throughout the song in front of 20000 people for the 50th time. so yes, he has it.
This was an awesome movie. Great acting. Great story. Like nearly everything David Lynch.
I still love this movie 👍
The irony is Star Wars is just a rehash of the story of Dune.
SW took from alot of things and combined them together, which is original in it's own way cause i can't think of anybody who has done that before. But yea, SW was most inspired by Dune.
This was a great film. It gets a bum wrap because of squeezing so much in it. But watch the new film and you will literally see scene for scene. The new dune just takes its time while Lynch’s dune moves quick. And if you don’t have a brain you may not get it back in 1984. I gotta say lynch nails the atmosphere and characters. Like Burtons Batman with Nicholson. He made Gotham. He made memorable characters. I think we miss this big time here with the new dune. The old Barron was much cooler. It’s easy to throw stars in your film like they do now as well. Sure old dune had some but not main characters. I just feel Lynch’s dune is better.
Good for you. I think it absolutely sucks. The worm navigators shooting lasers out of their mouthes, sting in a Speedo jumping around like an idiot, the bald headed bene geserit, and 40 year old Paul.
Awful. There’s a reason it’s in the dustbin of movie history whereas Denis are being compared to the OG Star Wars in their greatness.
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I wish we could get a chance to see lynchs edit.. I liked it alot!
Dune is other than Star Wars. Doesn't need a video.
I'm a fan of him, but he choked with Dune
they cut a lot of stuff, though
I love Lynch's version. I hate Villeneuve's.
@daniellewis5474 so do you.
I watched this version a few days ago and let me tell it was a shore to watch. lol We were struggling to not fall asleep! I think the Baron is the best thing about it and the only superior character to the new version. But they were using a sort of sound device as weapons. Was this in the books? Because I didn't see that in the recent movie.
The weirding modules were invented for the 1984 film. They do not exist in the books.
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They should consider using A.I to remake some of the scenes and re-release this movie.