I really liked BL2 but the thing that BL1 had that the rest didn't was seeing an enemy hold a legendary, them shooting you with it and then knowing that when you took them down you'd get it. One of my favorite moments in BL1 was taking cover and seeing electric shots bouncing around me, and going "is he using an Orion?" Sure enough, after killing the super badass crimson lance dude he dropped it. The world drop system in BL1 was also the objectively best one, the map wasn't absolutely covered with legendaries after clearing a map like in BL3 but it wasn't like finding a shiny pokemon with it's abysmally small 1 - 3000 odds like in BL2, like what were they thinking? That sounds like Pearl drop rates NOT legendary drop rates.
Another point, Bl1’s gameplay is so much more soothing to the eyes to watch than bl3. Bl3 has flashing colours everywhere and makes me feel like I’m bout to have a seizure.
Facts. Everything blends in to everything, and I swear I have to fucking squint sometimes to separate the enemies from the environment. That cel-shading aesthetic doesn't work in these highly detailed environments; and it all becomes a blur.
This. It's why I stop playing BL3 after like the first playthrough, because it's only in the early game when the gunplay actually feels like gunplay and not laser tag in a discotheque.
Good point, Bl3’s music wasn’t memorable at all. Whole BL1 had an amazing atmosphere that lended itself well with the music! Crazy that I didn’t think to mention that even though I used 2 songs from the game in the video. You make a Great point :)
@WrathKing47 my daughter is 25 and still gets creeped out when I say to her-in that voice, "They're coming to get you Barbara" (from Night of the Living Dead). She still gets the heebie jeebies more from the older movies like that or movies like Psycho (the original) then she does from anything modern. I have to explain to her that entertainment now just puts things out there with their storytelling and graphics...back then, they had to rely on building suspense through storytelling, acting, and ambiance... That's what BL1 did.... they utilized those three things in unison pretty doggone well. They took you to that world. Playing in the quiet of night, you can almost feel the dust and grit.
@ofacetious1288 Well said, games like Rage and Mad Max made me feel like I was in a God forsaken wasteland filled with grit and danger. That's what I felt playing the first Borderlands.
I remember seeing a challenge run for BL3 where a guy lucked out, and found a Chubby Skag. he killed it, and it dropped a level 1 Quasar. thing is, the Quasar spawned with no element because it spawned at level 1, which made it literally unusable. that's BL3 in a nutshell for me. you get the instant dopamine rush, but once it wears off, you realize that it isn't worth sticking around for.
Makes sense. Bd 1 was a work of art. Every map, gun, creature has that fine detail in Everything. Bd 3 is rushed. Stages are lack luster. Feels gimmicky. Bd 1 makes me a participant in a treasure hunt. Bd 3 makes me a spectator in a...a....what are we doing in it again?
Borderlands 1, for me, is art. As an artist, I'm naturally drawn to it. I understand why some people, who might be less interested in art, might enjoy Borderlands 3 more. However, aside from the artistic aspect, I feel there are many issues with Borderlands 3. For instance, legendaries are too common and ordinary. While some people prefer to have great gear right away, there should be a reward for effort beyond just efficiently dispatching bosses. Finding legendaries or farming for them should be part of that reward.
BL3 breaks the continuity that was there between 1 & 2 like not just breaks it , shits on it and sets it on fire and jumps on it to put it out . Never heard anyone say oh i wish my BL chars could slide around at a billion miles an hour . I want to fight chonky dangerous enemies who'l absolutely shred me if i don't dip in an out of cover in the endgame to defeat like in the first 2 games .
Who soaks up your bullets and drops lots of trash? SPONGE BOSS LIFE BAR! You're better off just fighting Graveward! SPONGE BOSS LIFE BAR! If lackluster class mods be something you wish. SPONGE BOSS LIFE BAR Then drop down the slide and shoot at this bitch!
BL1 feels like a real place that i want desperately to go to. I think it helps that they were originally going to make a game with more realistic graphics but due to conflicts, they made it slightly more cartoon looking. Oh and DAMN that acoustic music cant be beat period
i love all four borderlands main games but i play them for different reasons one for the harsh power curve, 2 for the skills, the presequal for the characters and three for the dlc stories and gun play
Bl1 is goated for the first installment into a busy time for gaming. It shined in a time when games were popping up every week same with bl2 ofc, but borderlands 3 left so much to desire. It was too easy in every aspect and getting legendaries goes from fun surprise to not even valuable in about an hour of gameplay. Btw love you hellfire almost as much as I love using bl1 hellfire on lilith :D.
I will say, the guns in Borderlands 3 feel MUCH better than the first game. You can tell them apart by sound only, many of them feel super satisfying and different to use too. (I love BL3’s DAHL guns) I’ll also say that skill trees feel really weird in BL3 due to some powerful skills being at the top of the tree so it doesn’t feel like you’re going from relatively weak/simple skills to really powerful ones by the end of the tree.
I don't really NEED to make a comment, because I think in the past I've said pretty much everything you said here, but firstly, channel engagement, you deserve more views and subscribers. Secondly, I feel like BL1's characters that were intentionally annoying never got too intrusive. They never shoehorned in anyone who was made to be annoying. Hell, I think Claptrap was the only "annoying" character in 1. Claptrap in 1 was FUNNY. Because he wasn't written as "make sure he talks too much and acts annoying.". BL1's writing was serious. For the most part. It had its jokes, but they didn't interrupt the story. Unlike..... You know.... Tyreen constantly mirroring internet culture from 5 years ago - which has probably dated horribly. Also 1 didn't have TIny Tina, Handsome Jack, Ava, or new Claptrap, so it's autometically superior. And don't even get me started on all the trash from New Tales.
Out of all the bosses you face in the Borderlands series with their funny quips under their name, only one is remembered well. Nine toes and his 3 balls, I remember a few from 2 and Pre-sequel but I can’t remember a single one from 3. Nothing comes close to Nine toes and his 3 balls or Sledge and that you aren’t friends with him
Things I love about Borderlands 1: -The gun sounds -The scaling. Nothing too high, and no ridiculous HP multipliers like in UVHM or Mayhem levels -S&S Munitions! -Weapon proficiencies -Decent vendors -Actually having a good amount of backpack space -Small achievements to gain XP from -Elements are satisfying to use (seriously, kill human enemies with shock DoT) -Enemies dropping weapons they use. I wonder why they got rid of that for most enemies in more recent Borderlands games -Enemies drop a fair amount of XP (especially bosses and guardians) Things I didn't like about Borderlands (some of these are nitpicky, as they don't affect gameplay much): -Fast travel being available late, and DLCs having no fast travel to their other locations. The Knoxx DLC's side missions and farming are a pain to do because of this. -Knoxx DLC class mods being as rare as pearlescents anywhere outside of Truxican Wrestlers/Devastators/Assassins (already rare enemies) and Circle of Duty (which is in the Sunken Sea, about 4000m away from T-Bone Junction). -Class mods in general. Just because a class mod is purple doesn't mean it's coming with +3 on two skills and +4 on another with a secondary effect (which makes the Knoxx COMs even more annoying to farm). At least they don't roll like Bl3 class mods. -No dedicated drops for legendary weapons -Like class mods, parts matter, and they matter more than in any other game. Instead of parts that trade some stats for others, there are parts that are just better than others in every way, and you can miss out on a lot of DPS because of that. Since legendary weapons don't dictate material grade, you can get something like a Skullmasher (a legendary rarer than most other legendary weapons) with the material of a green rarity Jakobs sniper. -Unique/legendary weapon parts aren't noticable outside of their color beam. A good example of this being that the scope that makes the cyclops has the same model as scope_5 seen on other Atlas snipers. Only a few have skins to separate them from the rest. -The music. It fits the game, but they don't sound that different to me. The other games (especially 3) has much better music in my opinion. -Badass bruisers. Why? -"Hello traveler, there are new missions available in the [location name] bounty board!" or something along those lines. -Weapons don't feel that much different from each other. The only ones that stick out are Hyperion (accuracy and recoil reduction), Maliwan (always elemental), Tediore (fast reload), and S&S (high magazine size). Jakobs does barely more damage than others, Torgue and Dahl are just there, Atlas doesn't seem any more effective, and Vladof doesn't seem any faster than others (and weirdly enough, their snipers are pump action, so they're slower than the snipers from Hyperion, S&S, Dahl, and Torgue) -Some enemies only appearing once per playthrough -Rocket launchers are janky AF -Eridian weapons. They're a great idea, just executed horribly.
@paulberry5750 There are some, but they're managable if they aren't in groups. Some are just bosses. They are: -Badass bruisers (Annoying, but they only suck when they're 3+ levels higher or in the Circle of Slaughter) Rakk Hive/Rakk Hive Trap (easy, but has way too much health. Its critical hit points dissapear after a certain damage threshold has been reached) -Badass elemental lance (they have tanks on their back that can detonate after enough hits, but if the tank's explosion doesn't hit them, bring a corrosive weapon, unless said soldier was corrosive element to begin with) -Kyros (Essentially a badass corrosive lance soldier, but without an elemental tank and wields a powerful explosive sniper rifle. He's also always 3 levels above you at max level, so he has more damage reduction besides his armor) -Both normal and badass lance rocketeers (They don't really have much health, but they have no critical hit spots and damage reduction) -Ajax (Same reason as rocketeers, but he has even more health and shield capacity than normal rocketeers. He uses a really strong combat rifle, so goodbye shields and health) -General Knoxx/Knoxx Trap (Not too difficult, but his minions are annoying) -Undead Ned/Ned Trap -Franken Bill -Pumpkin Head (Immune to anything but crits, has damage reduction, and is resistant to all elements except explosive) Thats all of them, I think.
@@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094 You keep saying Badass Bruisers but have you ever fought a Badass Raider that spawned with a great double anarchy or stinger? Yeah they're not as tanky but they make up for that with running around like a madman while quickly turning to you to fire off a few accurate shots that with said weapons gets you down after just a few direct hits. Also while on the topic of tanky enemies don't forget badass elemental alpha skags. Unless you crit them or hit their belly or rear legs, with their armor at the front they can tank quite a few magazines. I won't say badass spiderants 'cause those are not too hard to crit but still can tank just about all frontal shots and they also hit very hard.
@@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094 I recently returned to BL1 with Mordecai. Played right, very few non boss enemies are bullet sponges. Badass Bruisers can be stun locked & wiped out with continuous Head Shots. Line up with a scope & let her rip! The Rakk Hive wanted to be put out of it's misery. I didn't have to dodge or run. Badass Lancers? Use Explosive Weapons. Heck, a Hellfire or Defiler works wonders as well... Kryos? Burned him to death with the Hellfire combustion. Rocketeers? Any DoT will cause them to drop. They're too slow to dodge. What I should have said that that the common antagonists in BL2 took too many shots to kill. In BL1, just aim for a weak spot & your enemy is giblets or worse... I lucked out & received a Burning Destroyer. It's a combat rifle that disgorges an entire clip of ammo if you're aiming through the scope. The Fire is just icing on the cake. BL1 rewards precision shooting.
Have had a ton of memories in BL1, as me and an old friend of mine could couch co-op this back on 360 and just do everything. Other than some dated issues, BL1 just does everything better than BL3 and is leagues more playable without overly annoying characters.
i just hate how BL3 makes legendaries the new common. id walk away from every encounter with MINIMUM 5 legendaries. the thing I love most about BL1 is the atmosphere, its a world that takes itself seriously and everyone's not shouting pop culture references every 2 seconds and the written text for quests are a MAJOR tone shift compared to BL2-3. BL3 is better is one aspect and that is weapon sound design, each manufacturer has its own sound palette and they are all distinct and memorable.
In the first it was about the shooting and looting. Getting that awesome new gun. The third just felt bloated and uninspired. Didn't really add anything new
Bro, be spitting facts. Both BL1 and BL2 were childhood classics for me and are games that I continuously go back to, unlike BL3, where as soon as I maxed out my first character, I just put it down and have barely gone back to play it.
Borderlands 1 was Fallout 3 + Diablo. Post Apoc Art Design & Vat's head explosions mixed with phat loot. Great Stuff! Also, Borderlands minimalist writing wasn't total cringe.
There are many improvements I liked (in isolation) in bl3 but the truth is I find myself desiring to start a new bl1 playthrough over a bl3 one. I just feel more visceral satisfaction with the first game. The third one feels like a lot of things I have to do in the way of what I want to do.
I'll admit I'm pretty biased towards Bl1; it's my favorite game in the series and one I replay often for challenges and trying new builds, but it's just got so much going for it. Obviously there's all the points brought up in this video, but the music and especially the atmosphere just hits in a way that it doesn't in the other games, with a lot of the mission descriptions generally being on the more serious side, and it helps that they don't try to make the few character deaths too comedic (I played 2 first so I knew T.K. was gonna die but I didn't expect to find him strung up from the ceiling fan my first time playing), which I remember 3 failing in at least once or twice. The world also feels more alive honestly, mostly because of a detail I only noticed a playthrough or two ago, that being that some NPCs in New Haven (namely Zed, Marcus, Helena, and Scooter) actually get different sets of dialogue after certain points in the story; I distinctly remember talking to Zed I think around the time Commandant Steele shuts off the communications grid and him mentioning some war from a few years before the game takes place that I don't think is really touched on anywhere else. There are still a few problems I have, like Jaynis Kobb and most bosses in DLCs 3 and 4 not being farmable after turning in their missions, Lilith's Specter class mod being dropped by some of those bosses in DLC 3, the Rider not being farmable in playthrough 2.5 without a very tedious glitch, there not being a UVHM equivalent you can restart whenever to go through the story at max level and somewhat circumvent the DLC bosses issue, Athena's Wisdom and the Chiquito Amigo not dropping from any bosses, some class mods being glitched or having skills that don't make sense and the Eridian Warrior com flat-out not having a secondary stat, max level gear only being available as an item of the day, backpack upgrades being random in playthrough 2, any collision changes in Enhanced Edition that makes farming slower (e.g., a shortcut up to Reaver was patched, though the Crawmerax ledge being fixed is something I'm okay with), and all the unique guns that got way more restricted in terms of parts in Enhanced Edition that generally make them worse. The majority of those aren't too big of a deal for me; really the only one I have an issue with is the Specter com because you've only got 12 chances to get a perfect one before having to farm it from Craw at like a 0.11% drop chance or whatever it is, especially since the other characters don't have this problem with their non-allegiance DLC coms. If I had to choose a single one of these issues to fix, it'd be having a UVHM equivalent that can be restarted, as most of the unfarmable items are from DLCs anyway and aren't too far into the DLCs (besides Athena's Wisdom), and it'd allow for level 68 Meat Grinders and Riders so people can use those guns for the endgame if they want.
Bl1 is good if you started from it. I started playing from bl2 than bl3 so for me bl1 was not fun after playing bl2. But comparing bl1 and bl2 they let you do stuff while bl3 you listen Ellie and Lilith talk for 30min straight.
Agreed, it honestly in my opinion has the best soul in the series. Whilst the gameplay is better in 2, the characters and everything imo are so much more relatable and interesting
While i like 3, there are things 1 just does better, atmosphere, story, difficulty. But i do think bl3 has better gameplay as far as options in what you can do. Imagune if they made bl1 and bl2 with bl3's qol and general gameplay. That would sell well
At least in BL1 you don't have to spend time going to talk to Lillith at the other end of the ship. I get nostalgic for BL1 when i have to suffer the story in BL3 and miss the text walls that told you the story as you accepted and completed the missions without endlessly talking to everyone before i can do anything or go anywhere
@@0fficalHellfire You’re right, I worded that poorly. What I meant is that I think bl1 and bl3 both share this problem. The Hellfire is basically a normal fire smg with high elemental effect chance.
i think outside of the main story I really enjoy bl3 yh obv its got problems like anointments but that feeling of being op asf is what makes the game so enjoyable and its still really hard when it needs to be but thats just me.
I don't know if it's me as a casual or if I'm right, but most of the time, b3's shootout is chaotic in a bad way: it's normally comes to my mind the "Holy Nova" video, of Viva la Dirt League.
So glad to see plenty of people here mention how BL3 is so over done with the effects lasers and generally over the top splash damage that every time i tried doing slaughter shafts i would end up getting such bad eyes that continuing on would lead me feeling the same as motion sickness and id have to stop. When you consider the bright light that happens after defeating graveward or whatever he was called and how they had to patch that after launch because people where having issues with it (me included) it shows how badly rushed and unpolished the game was. Give me OG borderlands that felt like a new original game with an amazing atmosphere and not some over the top bright lights and flashy weapons kids game.
I dont feel quite as weird now. I was late to the party. Found borderlands 1 about 8 years ago. Between 1, 2 and sequel i have just rotated between those games. Beat BL3 but never played again. Dont really like it. Still my fav way to play bl1 is do every single mission 1st playthru. Race thru 2nd to beat game then everything is hard and fun. Now trying to do everything with all characters in bl2 and i see that will fill up the next decade hahahaha
It better be something closer to the old BLs or it'll be over for Gearbox. Oh well that might be for the better to have someone more competent take a shot at this franchise.
I did 2 playthroughs of BL2 and didn't finish BL3. Afterwards I completed BL1 and the better DLCs several times, way more relaxing due to the atmosphere. BL1 taught me the value of getting critical hits, logistics, strategy, and tactics. I came back to BL2 a much better player. I don't like the splashy colors as much, but it's not the blinding crap that BL3 is, except for certain locations/situations.
Don't forget the fact that we have so many garbage legendary weapons and gear in BL3 because they only exist to be a reference. It's like someone at Gesrbox was like, 'the players love the references, we need more'. Then we end up with guns like the Long Musket. One of the worst weapons in the game, and we get fucked out of peals. Because according to Randy Pitchferd, they would to have cut and enter manufacturer out to put peals In. No how about you cut the 20+ shit legendaries that no one asked for. It's one of the reasons people complain about how easy legendaries are to get. Yeah they are easy. But most of them suck and are just a shitty reference that most people don't get.
It takes me too long to get into BL3, every time i boot it up i question why. The boot up and loading screens take decades, the story and characters are bad, legendaries are way too common even without luck modifiers and the game is just way too easy, They ruined Pandora. However if I'm honest my biggest turn off is that it's just a different engine to BL2. When I boot up BL1, I'm like "Let's go!" Its just better in every way imo and i can easily replay it having no regrets.
I agree. The story pacing in BL1 isn't even all that good compared to 2 but both blow 3 out of the water. I sometimes refer to BL3's story as a visual novel. It's closer to watching a movie than playing a game. And I'm not a fan of rewatching most movies even if they were pretty good. I think it is important to distinguish between combat and gunplay. For me, gunplay is just how the guns feel/sound/look. The combat is the actual gameplay loop when fighting. BL1 and 3 both have very simple combat loops. BL2's had a bit more detail with slagging and healing in the mix. But gunplay wise I'll take 1 over 3 any day. Totally agree that many of the guns feel like a halo or destiny style more than the classical realistic weapon design in the first game. Though shoutout to Jakobs in BL3. They look, usually sound, and feel great to use. Looting is a tricky one. BL2 has my fav loot system of the series and I much prefer set drops to a primarily world drop based system. But i also think BL1 lucked out with abt the best balance you could hope for on a primarily world drop system. Bl3's system is closer to 2, but the more frequent crowded loot pools annoys me. So it is hard to compare the 2 directly. But parts wise, I'll again take the BL1 system over 3. BL1's part system might just be my fav in the series. I think simplifying it for BL2 was a good call, but in BL1 the only endgame is chasing gear upgrades and I think BL1's system is best for keeping that interesting. BL3 frontloaded all the importance on to a single part and overcrowded the options for it to roll. I sometimes ask ppl if they'd enjoy if matching grip was say a 2% roll and you could reroll it for eridium at Crazy Earl's. Who wants to currency farm in addition to regular farming for every gun you chase? Certainly not me. Lastly skill trees. Both have their drawbacks and advantages. BL1's is very simple and most the skills aren't that interesting but a few were kinda iconic and reimagined in BL2. I felt like 2 and later Krieg and TPS were a step in the right direction to making them more interesting and varying the combat approach based on your build. My biggest complaints with 3's system are that the chars having multiple action skills makes them feel less recognizable by their special ability and that there's just an overabundance of choices. I totally understand complaints that in 2, you basically have 1 or 2 skill tree builds and largely it is just to swap back and forth between a few skills even if you have 2 builds. But in BL3 I want like 90% of the skills and can only get like 20%. Just jarring compared to prior games where by the end you could get most of what you want. The 2 are so different though its hard for me to pick which I'd rather have on the whole.
Straight facts. I was super hyped for bl3 but after my first playthrou went straight back to bl1 and 2. Just modernising the gameplay doesnt make it automaticly better. I rly hope they get their shit right for bl4 or else the francise probably will die 😢
I played borderlands 2 first.. and it is by far my favourite.. the story with handsome jack and the DLC content (tiny Tina’s assault on dragon keep and Captain Scarlet and her Pirates booty) is awesome. I thought the following titles were not so good and this includes Borderlands 3 which was ok.. (have not tried Tiny Tina’s wonderlands yet). I then played Borderlands (1) last and I put it right up there. The story and side missions are much simpler than the rest. But it is raw and unspoilt and the originator of the franchise.. well worth a look (get the enhanced version for PC to get the nicer graphics textures, etc). For me the order of favourites is BL2 BL1 BL3 The rest. Looking forward to BL 4 (Hear the movie is very bad)
I love BL3 and I’m still playing it. BL1 is nice but extremely outdated, BL2 has an incredible story but is outdated as hell and the gameplay is nowhere as good as BL3. BL3s only downside is the storyline of the base game, the expansions are fking awesome!
BL3 is just way too easy.. after recently replaying BL1 and maxing all vault hunters I can confidently say it was a more painful time due to the shields in BL1 not being able to do 100+ things
I do love in the original borderlands that the assault rifles were very much assault rifles back then. They were the overall best thing in the game. When you are shooting in the open areas, there are much more mobile then long rifles and they just hit more effectively. Then any pistol or sub-machine-gun sub machine guns and pistols, on the other hand are just way more mobile and Maneuverable when you're in somewhere indoors Which brings up the separate topic on why?I love the guns and borderlands too.And why it's the history's world's greatest game known tall man.And that is because the entire d*** thing is bat-Shit Insane off the walls balls to the wall bonkers So nothing makes sense
This video was over way too quickly. Watching it almost makes me want to dive back into BL1 right now. But i need to finish leveling my characters in BL2.
EVERYTHING is better than BL3 lol i’m racking in hella hours in BL2 again and am enjoying farming bosses more than i enjoyed the entire play through in 3.
Is your opinion which I kind of find it very hard to believe the game barely has a story mode barely has a villain in above all, its basically, you go on missions, and you shoot s*** and pretty much call it a day, that's it very light on plot, and above all, you couldn't change mind set of mind.
You're absolutely correct, while there are aspects of Borderlands 3 that I like, mostly simple game play mechanic improvements that were long overdue, and the game is stunning looking despite the comic book art style, there were a lot of things that bugged me about it, firstly I hate pc culture and wokeness so when I found out that the midgets had been renamed as tinks to not be offensive, all of whom kinda looked like a mini Trevor Phillips that bugged me, most of the guns are crap, far too easy to get gold tier weapons, I mean there was a period of a few months just after release when they were popping out of every conceivable loot source, far too many ammo chests, there's more ammo chests and lockers inside a small room than in an entire map in Borderlands 1, I liked 2 of the vault hunters but the other 2 I wasn't fussed on, I didn't hate Tyreen and considering it was the voice actors first real role she did it very well, but Troy bugged me for some reason that I've never quite figured out, maybe he was just written badly or they chose the wrong actor for the role. I could go on but it's turning into a rant and even that bugs the shit out of me.
I played through bl1 with every character, through bl2 with every character twice, through the pre sequel with 3 characters, and through bl3 once with the only character I didn't despise. BL1 has the best look as far as crap on the screen goes. By BL3 it's just a mess of effects and blooms. The character movement and gun mechanics were overall superior in 3, but soulless. With the annoying characters and dumpster story the desire for replaying was gone. None of my crew even thought about getting wonderlands after the disaster that was 3. We gave them another chance after the massive disappointment that was the pre sequel, and won't again.
i agree, as i played 100% bl1 and then bl3 immediatly after and i played both before but then it dawned on my that its just better i could actually finish the first game without being bored bl3 keeps you fking prisoner sure endgame is a decent bit worse in bl1 it however has better shit to farm for also when i played bl1 my first legendary was at lvl 24 and the next 35+ in bl3 my first legendary was lvl2, my second lvl3 then i got 6 of them at lvl 7 i steamrolled bl3 until i simply ran out of steam for the game, cuz dear christ the story is such a slog and weapon generation is way better in bl1 it just is somehow the system gets worse from game to game because gbx keeps limiting it down since bl3 we have several guns that are 100% fixed and even added fixed guns to bl1 afterwards pathetic
I bought BL2 in 2014, THEN I bought BL1 in 2015. I bought BL3 on the very day it was released in 2019. Indeed, sir, BL1 is infinitely better than BL3. PS: I will NEVER buy BL4, I am done with this franchise! Have yourself an excellent day!
lol bruh i bet 90% of the people in the comment section haven’t tried to go back and play BL1 recently. People forget the flyl blackout and not being able to move and slow ass movement speed and the jankiness of vehicles crashing on nothing every 2 seconds. I replayed that last month and I’m currently replaying BL2 and I literally love all the borderlands games (except wonderlands) And spent hundreds of hours in all of them. I don’t understand the hate for BL3 personally, but I respect it.
Yeah, 3 is fucking ass. I remember waiting so long for the announcement, and then it finally got officially announced when pitchfuck was wearing the borderlands three shirt. Game is so bad though.
I really liked BL2 but the thing that BL1 had that the rest didn't was seeing an enemy hold a legendary, them shooting you with it and then knowing that when you took them down you'd get it.
One of my favorite moments in BL1 was taking cover and seeing electric shots bouncing around me, and going "is he using an Orion?"
Sure enough, after killing the super badass crimson lance dude he dropped it.
The world drop system in BL1 was also the objectively best one, the map wasn't absolutely covered with legendaries after clearing a map like in BL3 but it wasn't like finding a shiny pokemon with it's abysmally small 1 - 3000 odds like in BL2, like what were they thinking? That sounds like Pearl drop rates NOT legendary drop rates.
Another point, Bl1’s gameplay is so much more soothing to the eyes to watch than bl3. Bl3 has flashing colours everywhere and makes me feel like I’m bout to have a seizure.
Facts. Everything blends in to everything, and I swear I have to fucking squint sometimes to separate the enemies from the environment.
That cel-shading aesthetic doesn't work in these highly detailed environments; and it all becomes a blur.
I like to think of the visual and audio pollution in BL3 as being at a carnival in Walmart during a riot....
I'm glad you pointed this out. Borderlands 3 and tiny Tina's were the only games to ever give me migraines.
This. It's why I stop playing BL3 after like the first playthrough, because it's only in the early game when the gunplay actually feels like gunplay and not laser tag in a discotheque.
Takedowns are the death of me
Never played bl1 for the endgame, but the crude and simple but eerie atmosphere of desolate alien wastelands for me is so much like... home idk.
Are you from Detroit?
@@AmperahGaming, worse. I'm from Russia.
@@kryterseretgwrf9823 I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you are safe
And don't forget the ambiance of bl1.... the music and sounds just kind of take you there ❤
Good point, Bl3’s music wasn’t memorable at all. Whole BL1 had an amazing atmosphere that lended itself well with the music! Crazy that I didn’t think to mention that even though I used 2 songs from the game in the video. You make a Great point :)
Yeah, I miss the ambiance of the first game.
@WrathKing47 my daughter is 25 and still gets creeped out when I say to her-in that voice, "They're coming to get you Barbara" (from Night of the Living Dead). She still gets the heebie jeebies more from the older movies like that or movies like Psycho (the original) then she does from anything modern. I have to explain to her that entertainment now just puts things out there with their storytelling and graphics...back then, they had to rely on building suspense through storytelling, acting, and ambiance...
That's what BL1 did.... they utilized those three things in unison pretty doggone well. They took you to that world. Playing in the quiet of night, you can almost feel the dust and grit.
@ofacetious1288 Well said, games like Rage and Mad Max made me feel like I was in a God forsaken wasteland filled with grit and danger. That's what I felt playing the first Borderlands.
@@WrathKing47 Loved Mad Max for that reason as well.... great game. 👍
I remember seeing a challenge run for BL3 where a guy lucked out, and found a Chubby Skag.
he killed it, and it dropped a level 1 Quasar. thing is, the Quasar spawned with no element because it spawned at level 1, which made it literally unusable.
that's BL3 in a nutshell for me. you get the instant dopamine rush, but once it wears off, you realize that it isn't worth sticking around for.
1 and 2 are my favorite and still play them regularly..have all the rest dlcs and all...but i find myself back at 1 and 2.
Makes sense. Bd 1 was a work of art. Every map, gun, creature has that fine detail in Everything. Bd 3 is rushed. Stages are lack luster. Feels gimmicky. Bd 1 makes me a participant in a treasure hunt. Bd 3 makes me a spectator in a...a....what are we doing in it again?
One of the best short explanations of why BL1 is so damn good 🙏🏽 thank you for that
Shackled into worshipping Lilith and licking her taint because that's apparently what the lead writer wanted to happen (to him)
Another important reason: annoying characters don't wear out their welcome
Facts. Im looking at you Ava.
"Hey, Vault Hunter! new missions are available on the new haven bounty board!"
I've never played borderlands 1 but ive played every other one. After watching this, im gonna pick it up and try it out!
lmao “the loot drops well it’s like i’m looking destiny2” i’ve been saying the exact same thing my friend 😆
Borderlands 1, for me, is art. As an artist, I'm naturally drawn to it. I understand why some people, who might be less interested in art, might enjoy Borderlands 3 more. However, aside from the artistic aspect, I feel there are many issues with Borderlands 3. For instance, legendaries are too common and ordinary. While some people prefer to have great gear right away, there should be a reward for effort beyond just efficiently dispatching bosses. Finding legendaries or farming for them should be part of that reward.
BL3 breaks the continuity that was there between 1 & 2 like not just breaks it , shits on it and sets it on fire and jumps on it to put it out . Never heard anyone say oh i wish my BL chars could slide around at a billion miles an hour . I want to fight chonky dangerous enemies who'l absolutely shred me if i don't dip in an out of cover in the endgame to defeat like in the first 2 games .
played bl3 through twice. currently on yet another bl1 playthrough.
2:00 one of my favorite of the 17 raid bosses .... sponge boss 🤦♂
Who soaks up your bullets and drops lots of trash?
SPONGE BOSS LIFE BAR!
You're better off just fighting Graveward!
SPONGE BOSS LIFE BAR!
If lackluster class mods be something you wish.
SPONGE BOSS LIFE BAR
Then drop down the slide and shoot at this bitch!
i honestly js love borderlands 3 it was so fun to play but i love all the games
BL1 feels like a real place that i want desperately to go to. I think it helps that they were originally going to make a game with more realistic graphics but due to conflicts, they made it slightly more cartoon looking. Oh and DAMN that acoustic music cant be beat period
Wow that is so funny because I've had this thought many times. Like I would love to live in bl1 for like a week
They were, look at the pre-release trailer, or the images
1:08 Sera guardian - Eridian race aliens - I miss them in BL2
I wish they'd done more with them, too.
i love all four borderlands main games but i play them for different reasons one for the harsh power curve, 2 for the skills, the presequal for the characters and three for the dlc stories and gun play
I always loved BL1 over the others simply because of the atmosphere and the dark colors
Borderlands 3 has so many bright colors that it hurts my eyes. The dark colors of Borderlands 1 are much more preferred.
Bl1 is goated for the first installment into a busy time for gaming. It shined in a time when games were popping up every week same with bl2 ofc, but borderlands 3 left so much to desire. It was too easy in every aspect and getting legendaries goes from fun surprise to not even valuable in about an hour of gameplay. Btw love you hellfire almost as much as I love using bl1 hellfire on lilith :D.
Facts, I really find it ironic you uploaded the day after I finally got the nemesis to spawn, also got a jackal when I got off work 💀
I actually prefer the story more in the first game. The characters aren’t annoying. Not every story has to perfectly explain everything.
I will say, the guns in Borderlands 3 feel MUCH better than the first game. You can tell them apart by sound only, many of them feel super satisfying and different to use too. (I love BL3’s DAHL guns)
I’ll also say that skill trees feel really weird in BL3 due to some powerful skills being at the top of the tree so it doesn’t feel like you’re going from relatively weak/simple skills to really powerful ones by the end of the tree.
BL1 is super underrated
I don't really NEED to make a comment, because I think in the past I've said pretty much everything you said here, but firstly, channel engagement, you deserve more views and subscribers.
Secondly, I feel like BL1's characters that were intentionally annoying never got too intrusive. They never shoehorned in anyone who was made to be annoying. Hell, I think Claptrap was the only "annoying" character in 1. Claptrap in 1 was FUNNY. Because he wasn't written as "make sure he talks too much and acts annoying.". BL1's writing was serious. For the most part. It had its jokes, but they didn't interrupt the story. Unlike..... You know.... Tyreen constantly mirroring internet culture from 5 years ago - which has probably dated horribly.
Also 1 didn't have TIny Tina, Handsome Jack, Ava, or new Claptrap, so it's autometically superior. And don't even get me started on all the trash from New Tales.
Out of all the bosses you face in the Borderlands series with their funny quips under their name, only one is remembered well.
Nine toes and his 3 balls, I remember a few from 2 and Pre-sequel but I can’t remember a single one from 3.
Nothing comes close to Nine toes and his 3 balls or Sledge and that you aren’t friends with him
Frrr, bosses felt like they were actually from another universe.
My favorite borderlands games are 1 and the pre sequel so I totally agree with you here.
Things I love about Borderlands 1:
-The gun sounds
-The scaling. Nothing too high, and no ridiculous HP multipliers like in UVHM or Mayhem levels
-S&S Munitions!
-Weapon proficiencies
-Decent vendors
-Actually having a good amount of backpack space
-Small achievements to gain XP from
-Elements are satisfying to use (seriously, kill human enemies with shock DoT)
-Enemies dropping weapons they use. I wonder why they got rid of that for most enemies in more recent Borderlands games
-Enemies drop a fair amount of XP (especially bosses and guardians)
Things I didn't like about Borderlands (some of these are nitpicky, as they don't affect gameplay much):
-Fast travel being available late, and DLCs having no fast travel to their other locations. The Knoxx DLC's side missions and farming are a pain to do because of this.
-Knoxx DLC class mods being as rare as pearlescents anywhere outside of Truxican Wrestlers/Devastators/Assassins (already rare enemies) and Circle of Duty (which is in the Sunken Sea, about 4000m away from T-Bone Junction).
-Class mods in general. Just because a class mod is purple doesn't mean it's coming with +3 on two skills and +4 on another with a secondary effect (which makes the Knoxx COMs even more annoying to farm). At least they don't roll like Bl3 class mods.
-No dedicated drops for legendary weapons
-Like class mods, parts matter, and they matter more than in any other game. Instead of parts that trade some stats for others, there are parts that are just better than others in every way, and you can miss out on a lot of DPS because of that. Since legendary weapons don't dictate material grade, you can get something like a Skullmasher (a legendary rarer than most other legendary weapons) with the material of a green rarity Jakobs sniper.
-Unique/legendary weapon parts aren't noticable outside of their color beam. A good example of this being that the scope that makes the cyclops has the same model as scope_5 seen on other Atlas snipers. Only a few have skins to separate them from the rest.
-The music. It fits the game, but they don't sound that different to me. The other games (especially 3) has much better music in my opinion.
-Badass bruisers. Why?
-"Hello traveler, there are new missions available in the [location name] bounty board!" or something along those lines.
-Weapons don't feel that much different from each other. The only ones that stick out are Hyperion (accuracy and recoil reduction), Maliwan (always elemental), Tediore (fast reload), and S&S (high magazine size). Jakobs does barely more damage than others, Torgue and Dahl are just there, Atlas doesn't seem any more effective, and Vladof doesn't seem any faster than others (and weirdly enough, their snipers are pump action, so they're slower than the snipers from Hyperion, S&S, Dahl, and Torgue)
-Some enemies only appearing once per playthrough
-Rocket launchers are janky AF
-Eridian weapons. They're a great idea, just executed horribly.
Well well, it looks like someone knows their game a LOT.
BL1 didn't have Bullet Spongy enemies & didn't leave you starved for ammo...
@paulberry5750 There are some, but they're managable if they aren't in groups. Some are just bosses.
They are:
-Badass bruisers (Annoying, but they only suck when they're 3+ levels higher or in the Circle of Slaughter)
Rakk Hive/Rakk Hive Trap (easy, but has way too much health. Its critical hit points dissapear after a certain damage threshold has been reached)
-Badass elemental lance (they have tanks on their back that can detonate after enough hits, but if the tank's explosion doesn't hit them, bring a corrosive weapon, unless said soldier was corrosive element to begin with)
-Kyros (Essentially a badass corrosive lance soldier, but without an elemental tank and wields a powerful explosive sniper rifle. He's also always 3 levels above you at max level, so he has more damage reduction besides his armor)
-Both normal and badass lance rocketeers (They don't really have much health, but they have no critical hit spots and damage reduction)
-Ajax (Same reason as rocketeers, but he has even more health and shield capacity than normal rocketeers. He uses a really strong combat rifle, so goodbye shields and health)
-General Knoxx/Knoxx Trap (Not too difficult, but his minions are annoying)
-Undead Ned/Ned Trap
-Franken Bill
-Pumpkin Head (Immune to anything but crits, has damage reduction, and is resistant to all elements except explosive)
Thats all of them, I think.
@@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094 You keep saying Badass Bruisers but have you ever fought a Badass Raider that spawned with a great double anarchy or stinger? Yeah they're not as tanky but they make up for that with running around like a madman while quickly turning to you to fire off a few accurate shots that with said weapons gets you down after just a few direct hits.
Also while on the topic of tanky enemies don't forget badass elemental alpha skags. Unless you crit them or hit their belly or rear legs, with their armor at the front they can tank quite a few magazines. I won't say badass spiderants 'cause those are not too hard to crit but still can tank just about all frontal shots and they also hit very hard.
@@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094 I recently returned to BL1 with Mordecai. Played right, very few non boss enemies are bullet sponges.
Badass Bruisers can be stun locked & wiped out with continuous Head Shots. Line up with a scope & let her rip!
The Rakk Hive wanted to be put out of it's misery. I didn't have to dodge or run.
Badass Lancers? Use Explosive Weapons. Heck, a Hellfire or Defiler works wonders as well...
Kryos? Burned him to death with the Hellfire combustion.
Rocketeers? Any DoT will cause them to drop. They're too slow to dodge.
What I should have said that that the common antagonists in BL2 took too many shots to kill.
In BL1, just aim for a weak spot & your enemy is giblets or worse...
I lucked out & received a Burning Destroyer. It's a combat rifle that disgorges an entire clip of ammo if you're aiming through the scope. The Fire is just icing on the cake. BL1 rewards precision shooting.
Have had a ton of memories in BL1, as me and an old friend of mine could couch co-op this back on 360 and just do everything. Other than some dated issues, BL1 just does everything better than BL3 and is leagues more playable without overly annoying characters.
*Toot Braunstein:* Uh, DUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
What i enjoy is shooting from the hip and waepon profiency
i just hate how BL3 makes legendaries the new common. id walk away from every encounter with MINIMUM 5 legendaries. the thing I love most about BL1 is the atmosphere, its a world that takes itself seriously and everyone's not shouting pop culture references every 2 seconds and the written text for quests are a MAJOR tone shift compared to BL2-3. BL3 is better is one aspect and that is weapon sound design, each manufacturer has its own sound palette and they are all distinct and memorable.
In the first it was about the shooting and looting. Getting that awesome new gun.
The third just felt bloated and uninspired. Didn't really add anything new
Bro, be spitting facts. Both BL1 and BL2 were childhood classics for me and are games that I continuously go back to, unlike BL3, where as soon as I maxed out my first character, I just put it down and have barely gone back to play it.
Borderlands 1 was Fallout 3 + Diablo.
Post Apoc Art Design & Vat's head explosions mixed with phat loot. Great Stuff!
Also, Borderlands minimalist writing wasn't total cringe.
There are many improvements I liked (in isolation) in bl3 but the truth is I find myself desiring to start a new bl1 playthrough over a bl3 one. I just feel more visceral satisfaction with the first game. The third one feels like a lot of things I have to do in the way of what I want to do.
I'll admit I'm pretty biased towards Bl1; it's my favorite game in the series and one I replay often for challenges and trying new builds, but it's just got so much going for it. Obviously there's all the points brought up in this video, but the music and especially the atmosphere just hits in a way that it doesn't in the other games, with a lot of the mission descriptions generally being on the more serious side, and it helps that they don't try to make the few character deaths too comedic (I played 2 first so I knew T.K. was gonna die but I didn't expect to find him strung up from the ceiling fan my first time playing), which I remember 3 failing in at least once or twice.
The world also feels more alive honestly, mostly because of a detail I only noticed a playthrough or two ago, that being that some NPCs in New Haven (namely Zed, Marcus, Helena, and Scooter) actually get different sets of dialogue after certain points in the story; I distinctly remember talking to Zed I think around the time Commandant Steele shuts off the communications grid and him mentioning some war from a few years before the game takes place that I don't think is really touched on anywhere else.
There are still a few problems I have, like Jaynis Kobb and most bosses in DLCs 3 and 4 not being farmable after turning in their missions, Lilith's Specter class mod being dropped by some of those bosses in DLC 3, the Rider not being farmable in playthrough 2.5 without a very tedious glitch, there not being a UVHM equivalent you can restart whenever to go through the story at max level and somewhat circumvent the DLC bosses issue, Athena's Wisdom and the Chiquito Amigo not dropping from any bosses, some class mods being glitched or having skills that don't make sense and the Eridian Warrior com flat-out not having a secondary stat, max level gear only being available as an item of the day, backpack upgrades being random in playthrough 2, any collision changes in Enhanced Edition that makes farming slower (e.g., a shortcut up to Reaver was patched, though the Crawmerax ledge being fixed is something I'm okay with), and all the unique guns that got way more restricted in terms of parts in Enhanced Edition that generally make them worse.
The majority of those aren't too big of a deal for me; really the only one I have an issue with is the Specter com because you've only got 12 chances to get a perfect one before having to farm it from Craw at like a 0.11% drop chance or whatever it is, especially since the other characters don't have this problem with their non-allegiance DLC coms. If I had to choose a single one of these issues to fix, it'd be having a UVHM equivalent that can be restarted, as most of the unfarmable items are from DLCs anyway and aren't too far into the DLCs (besides Athena's Wisdom), and it'd allow for level 68 Meat Grinders and Riders so people can use those guns for the endgame if they want.
I love bl1. It's definitely whacky which is why i like it 😅
I was really disappointed with 3, for me personally it always felt as if it was missing something.
Borderlands 1 and 2 are still the best games 🙏🏽(Still playing both of them btw)
Bl1 is good if you started from it. I started playing from bl2 than bl3 so for me bl1 was not fun after playing bl2. But comparing bl1 and bl2 they let you do stuff while bl3 you listen Ellie and Lilith talk for 30min straight.
I understand that, which is why so many don’t give it a second chance! I highly recommend you try borderlands 1 again :)
Borderlands 1 is still the best game in the series in my opinion.
Finally
What hell are you smoking it’s easily the worst borderlands game
@@Varga323 you just don’t get it, sorry dude.
Agreed, it honestly in my opinion has the best soul in the series. Whilst the gameplay is better in 2, the characters and everything imo are so much more relatable and interesting
@@Varga323it's a 10/10 game
While i like 3, there are things 1 just does better, atmosphere, story, difficulty. But i do think bl3 has better gameplay as far as options in what you can do. Imagune if they made bl1 and bl2 with bl3's qol and general gameplay. That would sell well
At least in BL1 you don't have to spend time going to talk to Lillith at the other end of the ship. I get nostalgic for BL1 when i have to suffer the story in BL3 and miss the text walls that told you the story as you accepted and completed the missions without endlessly talking to everyone before i can do anything or go anywhere
Watches video while I play borderlands 3
Exactly bud! I concur with the thumbnail title!
Was not expecting a trumpet cover of bohemian rhapsody
I think saying there’s no gun variation in bl3 is just straight up disingenuous
When did I say that. Oh right, I didn’t, I said there derivative of other guns in the series and other games in general.
@@0fficalHellfire You’re right, I worded that poorly. What I meant is that I think bl1 and bl3 both share this problem. The Hellfire is basically a normal fire smg with high elemental effect chance.
@@flimsywrist3176 The hellfire in bl1 actually has a chance to apply several DoTs per shot and the bullets explode when where they land.
@@philipwindsor2929 Oh cool, I didn’t know that.
i think outside of the main story I really enjoy bl3 yh obv its got problems like anointments but that feeling of being op asf is what makes the game so enjoyable and its still really hard when it needs to be but thats just me.
100% agree. Great vid as always.
I honestly find it hard to compare borderlands to each other, they’re each such unique experiences and I play them for different reasons
I don't know if it's me as a casual or if I'm right, but most of the time, b3's shootout is chaotic in a bad way: it's normally comes to my mind the "Holy Nova" video, of Viva la Dirt League.
Nice video, i agree with your points.
Need that trumpet/kazoo (idk what instrument is) version of bohemian rhapsody
So glad to see plenty of people here mention how BL3 is so over done with the effects lasers and generally over the top splash damage that every time i tried doing slaughter shafts i would end up getting such bad eyes that continuing on would lead me feeling the same as motion sickness and id have to stop.
When you consider the bright light that happens after defeating graveward or whatever he was called and how they had to patch that after launch because people where having issues with it (me included) it shows how badly rushed and unpolished the game was.
Give me OG borderlands that felt like a new original game with an amazing atmosphere and not some over the top bright lights and flashy weapons kids game.
I dont feel quite as weird now. I was late to the party. Found borderlands 1 about 8 years ago. Between 1, 2 and sequel i have just rotated between those games. Beat BL3 but never played again. Dont really like it. Still my fav way to play bl1 is do every single mission 1st playthru. Race thru 2nd to beat game then everything is hard and fun. Now trying to do everything with all characters in bl2 and i see that will fill up the next decade hahahaha
This video may be my sign to finally finish bl3...
Of course 1 is better than 3 :)) The atmospheeeeeeeeeere.
Galileo Galileo will you do the grim fandango 😂 , these go really bad after 2 that even redux mods cannot fix
Birderlands 4 is way better 👀
It better be something closer to the old BLs or it'll be over for Gearbox. Oh well that might be for the better to have someone more competent take a shot at this franchise.
I cannot wait for this comment to age like shit.
BL1 is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UNIQUE AND ORIGINAL AF ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
the best part of this video is "there are people who use hard drugs in their free time" 😂😂😂😂😂
The thumbnail -
The thumbnail is very good.
I did 2 playthroughs of BL2 and didn't finish BL3. Afterwards I completed BL1 and the better DLCs several times, way more relaxing due to the atmosphere.
BL1 taught me the value of getting critical hits, logistics, strategy, and tactics. I came back to BL2 a much better player. I don't like the splashy colors as much, but it's not the blinding crap that BL3 is, except for certain locations/situations.
Don't forget the fact that we have so many garbage legendary weapons and gear in BL3 because they only exist to be a reference. It's like someone at Gesrbox was like, 'the players love the references, we need more'. Then we end up with guns like the Long Musket. One of the worst weapons in the game, and we get fucked out of peals. Because according to Randy Pitchferd, they would to have cut and enter manufacturer out to put peals In. No how about you cut the 20+ shit legendaries that no one asked for. It's one of the reasons people complain about how easy legendaries are to get. Yeah they are easy. But most of them suck and are just a shitty reference that most people don't get.
It takes me too long to get into BL3, every time i boot it up i question why.
The boot up and loading screens take decades,
the story and characters are bad,
legendaries are way too common even without luck modifiers and the game is just way too easy,
They ruined Pandora.
However if I'm honest my biggest turn off is that it's just a different engine to BL2.
When I boot up BL1, I'm like "Let's go!" Its just better in every way imo and i can easily replay it having no regrets.
Facts my man!! Preach!! 🙌🏻
I agree. The story pacing in BL1 isn't even all that good compared to 2 but both blow 3 out of the water. I sometimes refer to BL3's story as a visual novel. It's closer to watching a movie than playing a game. And I'm not a fan of rewatching most movies even if they were pretty good.
I think it is important to distinguish between combat and gunplay. For me, gunplay is just how the guns feel/sound/look. The combat is the actual gameplay loop when fighting. BL1 and 3 both have very simple combat loops. BL2's had a bit more detail with slagging and healing in the mix. But gunplay wise I'll take 1 over 3 any day. Totally agree that many of the guns feel like a halo or destiny style more than the classical realistic weapon design in the first game. Though shoutout to Jakobs in BL3. They look, usually sound, and feel great to use.
Looting is a tricky one. BL2 has my fav loot system of the series and I much prefer set drops to a primarily world drop based system. But i also think BL1 lucked out with abt the best balance you could hope for on a primarily world drop system. Bl3's system is closer to 2, but the more frequent crowded loot pools annoys me. So it is hard to compare the 2 directly. But parts wise, I'll again take the BL1 system over 3. BL1's part system might just be my fav in the series. I think simplifying it for BL2 was a good call, but in BL1 the only endgame is chasing gear upgrades and I think BL1's system is best for keeping that interesting. BL3 frontloaded all the importance on to a single part and overcrowded the options for it to roll. I sometimes ask ppl if they'd enjoy if matching grip was say a 2% roll and you could reroll it for eridium at Crazy Earl's. Who wants to currency farm in addition to regular farming for every gun you chase? Certainly not me.
Lastly skill trees. Both have their drawbacks and advantages. BL1's is very simple and most the skills aren't that interesting but a few were kinda iconic and reimagined in BL2. I felt like 2 and later Krieg and TPS were a step in the right direction to making them more interesting and varying the combat approach based on your build. My biggest complaints with 3's system are that the chars having multiple action skills makes them feel less recognizable by their special ability and that there's just an overabundance of choices. I totally understand complaints that in 2, you basically have 1 or 2 skill tree builds and largely it is just to swap back and forth between a few skills even if you have 2 builds. But in BL3 I want like 90% of the skills and can only get like 20%. Just jarring compared to prior games where by the end you could get most of what you want. The 2 are so different though its hard for me to pick which I'd rather have on the whole.
One is a classic the other bargain bin material.
Straight facts. I was super hyped for bl3 but after my first playthrou went straight back to bl1 and 2. Just modernising the gameplay doesnt make it automaticly better. I rly hope they get their shit right for bl4 or else the francise probably will die 😢
I played borderlands 2 first.. and it is by far my favourite.. the story with handsome jack and the DLC content (tiny Tina’s assault on dragon keep and Captain Scarlet and her Pirates booty) is awesome. I thought the following titles were not so good and this includes Borderlands 3 which was ok.. (have not tried Tiny Tina’s wonderlands yet).
I then played Borderlands (1) last and I put it right up there. The story and side missions are much simpler than the rest. But it is raw and unspoilt and the originator of the franchise.. well worth a look (get the enhanced version for PC to get the nicer graphics textures, etc).
For me the order of favourites is
BL2
BL1
BL3
The rest.
Looking forward to BL 4
(Hear the movie is very bad)
To a certain point i agree but all Borderlands games can be enjoyed.
I love BL3 and I’m still playing it.
BL1 is nice but extremely outdated, BL2 has an incredible story but is outdated as hell and the gameplay is nowhere as good as BL3.
BL3s only downside is the storyline of the base game, the expansions are fking awesome!
BL3 is just way too easy.. after recently replaying BL1 and maxing all vault hunters I can confidently say it was a more painful time due to the shields in BL1 not being able to do 100+ things
It's so annoying to there are things i like in bl3 i like how the guns feel but i can't force my self to come back and play it like bl1 and nl2
can you make video playing bl3 and doing a review?
I do love in the original borderlands that the assault rifles were very much assault rifles back then. They were the overall best thing in the game. When you are shooting in the open areas, there are much more mobile then long rifles and they just hit more effectively. Then any pistol or sub-machine-gun sub machine guns and pistols, on the other hand are just way more mobile and Maneuverable when you're in somewhere indoors
Which brings up the separate topic on why?I love the guns and borderlands too.And why it's the history's world's greatest game known tall man.And that is because the entire d*** thing is bat-Shit Insane off the walls balls to the wall bonkers
So nothing makes sense
Bro shoulda made the title "Shit everyone already knows"
This video was over way too quickly. Watching it almost makes me want to dive back into BL1 right now. But i need to finish leveling my characters in BL2.
EVERYTHING is better than BL3 lol i’m racking in hella hours in BL2 again and am enjoying farming bosses more than i enjoyed the entire play through in 3.
Stating the obvious. BL1 is a great game.
Is your opinion which I kind of find it very hard to believe the game barely has a story mode barely has a villain in above all, its basically, you go on missions, and you shoot s*** and pretty much call it a day, that's it very light on plot, and above all, you couldn't change mind set of mind.
It's a 10/10 game
What is this melody
You're absolutely correct, while there are aspects of Borderlands 3 that I like, mostly simple game play mechanic improvements that were long overdue, and the game is stunning looking despite the comic book art style, there were a lot of things that bugged me about it, firstly I hate pc culture and wokeness so when I found out that the midgets had been renamed as tinks to not be offensive, all of whom kinda looked like a mini Trevor Phillips that bugged me, most of the guns are crap, far too easy to get gold tier weapons, I mean there was a period of a few months just after release when they were popping out of every conceivable loot source, far too many ammo chests, there's more ammo chests and lockers inside a small room than in an entire map in Borderlands 1, I liked 2 of the vault hunters but the other 2 I wasn't fussed on, I didn't hate Tyreen and considering it was the voice actors first real role she did it very well, but Troy bugged me for some reason that I've never quite figured out, maybe he was just written badly or they chose the wrong actor for the role. I could go on but it's turning into a rant and even that bugs the shit out of me.
So true - that is not a game anymore that is some hard line propaganda cringy propaganda that is why stories are so broken and flat.
I like 3 but only for a short play session I can spend hours replaying 1
maliwan takedown is goated
I played through bl1 with every character, through bl2 with every character twice, through the pre sequel with 3 characters, and through bl3 once with the only character I didn't despise.
BL1 has the best look as far as crap on the screen goes. By BL3 it's just a mess of effects and blooms. The character movement and gun mechanics were overall superior in 3, but soulless. With the annoying characters and dumpster story the desire for replaying was gone.
None of my crew even thought about getting wonderlands after the disaster that was 3. We gave them another chance after the massive disappointment that was the pre sequel, and won't again.
I agree and I'm playing it on Switch
Same
i agree, as i played 100% bl1 and then bl3 immediatly after
and i played both before but then it dawned on my that its just better
i could actually finish the first game without being bored
bl3 keeps you fking prisoner
sure endgame is a decent bit worse in bl1 it however has better shit to farm for
also
when i played bl1 my first legendary was at lvl 24 and the next 35+
in bl3 my first legendary was lvl2, my second lvl3 then i got 6 of them at lvl 7
i steamrolled bl3 until i simply ran out of steam for the game, cuz dear christ the story is such a slog
and
weapon generation is way better in bl1
it just is
somehow the system gets worse from game to game because gbx keeps limiting it down
since bl3 we have several guns that are 100% fixed
and even added fixed guns to bl1 afterwards
pathetic
Well yeah, Borderlands 1 & 2 are great games. Borderlands 3 is embarrassing
Wonderlands and Pre-Sequel are worse. Junk endgame/dlc
if they bl1 had level scaling it woud be perfekt
FACTS, PREACHING TO THE CHIOR
I bought BL2 in 2014, THEN I bought BL1 in 2015. I bought BL3 on the very day it was released in 2019.
Indeed, sir, BL1 is infinitely better than BL3.
PS: I will NEVER buy BL4, I am done with this franchise!
Have yourself an excellent day!
I always found the gunplay in BL3 to feel awesome some of the most fun I had in an pve fps, the rest of the game I 100% agree it sucked.
Mammaaaaa
lol bruh i bet 90% of the people in the comment section haven’t tried to go back and play BL1 recently. People forget the flyl blackout and not being able to move and slow ass movement speed and the jankiness of vehicles crashing on nothing every 2 seconds. I replayed that last month and I’m currently replaying BL2 and I literally love all the borderlands games (except wonderlands) And spent hundreds of hours in all of them. I don’t understand the hate for BL3 personally, but I respect it.
Never had a crash on BL1, but I play on xbox, not the flaky PC version that Gearbox never fixed.
hell yeah borderlands 1 is better than 3 how the f*** is that even a question AHEM….sorry lost my cool for a minute lol
Yeah, 3 is fucking ass. I remember waiting so long for the announcement, and then it finally got officially announced when pitchfuck was wearing the borderlands three shirt. Game is so bad though.
Instant like and subscribe for that. Bl1 is one of my favorites if all time. I still play it!
isnt 2 better than both though?