I think a lot church’s make the mistake of buying equipment without consulting their musicians. Musicians that have been playing for a while have a certain sound that they like and church’s have a nac for buying cheap drums and cymbals or going with what the sales person recommends. Each drum company has their signature sound and each drummer likes what they like.
My previous church uses the drummer's kit as their main kit. It's a nice kit, and the drummer can't play it in his flat because of space and neighbours.
I totally agree. I'm lucky my church consults me whenever they buy any drum gear because I play almost every week. I still like to bring some of my own gear though =)
BRO EXACTLY! I tune my drums to my liking and everytime the guitarist or someone else grabs my tuning key and tunes the drums differently or tried to tell me how to play🤦🏽♂️
This was a much needed video for new worship team drummers and EXPERIENCED worship team leaders. I plan to sit down with my team leader, watch this with him and advise some changes. Thank you so much for being thorough and covering all the bases!
Hi..I transitioned to playing drums from playing bass not more than a year ago and I'm really grateful that this channel dives deep into important information that sometimes might be otherwise ignored. I use the exact kit but with a 18inch kick drum
I love this kit. I’m a worship leading drummer who has sort of specialized in low volume drumming. The mahogany help so much with that. I have identical for my church and my self. And I’ve helped at least 8 other churches get one, too. I’ve also landed on Meinl Byzance Extra Dry cymbals. Very dark and responsive at love volume with a cool complex texture.
What an amazing video! Thanks so much for sharing. I really love the way Noah explained and detailed literally every part of drums. I'm really really satisfied!
Shoutout to Noah! Great job man! As a drummer of over 15 years playing in churches from one thousand something people to churches with 20 people, the most important part of the church drum set and sound is CYMBALS! Usually when people complain about the drums being “too loud” they probably aren’t referring to “volume” (decibel level of sound output) but harshness/loudness, which largely comes from the cymbals. Obviously this is dependent on the room and acoustics but if you have a pleasant sounding set of cymbals generally people won’t complain haha. Invest in the cymbals best for your venue and sound and budget the rest of the kit around the cymbals.
I can’t say enough good things about Noah. What a journey! He loves Jesus and loves using his craft to disciple people. He puts so much time in and is as real as it gets. Thank you! I can say the same about Jake ! Also, if you guys haven’t heard or checked him out yet, JR Ezeugwu is another drummer who is an awesome human who loves Jesus and stays slaying on the kit. Seriously , 🔥...
Whoa, what a collab! Two of my favourite worship channels! Thank you Jake, Noah and the entire Churchfront team for making this amazing guide, it's so well structured and everything is explained in detail, but in a simple enough language for wide audience to understand!
I think that if you are on a tight budget spend great amount of it on cymbals. You can tweak the sound alot on shells with different heads, muffling and tuning, thats my personal experience.
You need to learn how to tune by ear, its an invaluable skill if you plan to play drums for any length of time. Just like tuning any other instrument, you NEED to train your ears. Technology is great, but you need the full range of the skill of tuning, learn to tune properly
I play in a worship band in a small church (the sanctuary is small floor area with high ceilings). The drums are not mic'd at all. The drum kit I use (it's mine left set up more or less permanently in the church) is a Ddrum 'SE Flyer' small bop sized kit (14 x 18" kick, 8 x 12" rack tom, 14 x 14" floor tom, 5 x 14" wood shell snare). I replaced the OEM snare batter head with an Evans '56 Calftone batter head to give it a warmer tone. Cymbals are 14" Zildjian A New Beat highhats, 14" Zildjian A thin crash, 18" Zildjian A medium ride, 16" Zildjian A thin crash, and a 10" Sabian B8 Pro China Splash for effects. The kick drum batter head has a built-in foam muffle ring (forgot the exact brand). Snare drum and rack tom batter heads have no muffling; the floor tom has a small piece of folded duct tape on the batter head. This combination works out perfectly for the church I play in if lower volume is called for I use regular wire brushes, 'Ed Thigpen' signature plastic brushes, or plastic 'Blastick' bundle rods depending on the tune. We only have a trio: percussion, piano, vocals, and an acoustic guitar so volume control is important. My cymbal selection runs counter to those suggested in the video but I've found with judicious application of volume control they work quite well in our church setting. My favorite sticks in the church setting are Regal wood-tip 7A jazz sticks but I use Vic Virth Dave Weckl signature sticks nylon tip for more contemporary 'worship rock' tunes. Also use wound cloth yarn headed cymbal mallets for cymbal washes and soft tom passages. All this I arrived at after much experimentation with drum sizes, cymbals and stick selection works well in our church but each church is different so the gear has to be selected for the venue. Great informative video.
Re phasing: the wavelength of a 1kHz tone is about 12 inches. Therefore to cause complete cancellation, one microphone would need to be 6 inches further from the source than the other. The distance is greater for lower tones and less for higher ones. The problem is worst with double micing a snare, because, as the top skin moves down (away from the microphone) the bottom skin will also be moving down, but towards the microphone
Back in my day of worship drumming we used to build much bigger kits because we didn’t play any tom driven songs like now. Which there’s a lot of. We had a lot more cymbals and more than two toms. Now in every church I see the same size 4 or 5 piece one up and one or two down three or four cymbal set up.
I think the sizes of the drum set at which he’s sitting, are perfect. You can’t go wrong with a 12, 14 & 20 setup. I prefer a 13” snare, but that’s not critical.
I started on a tama superstar that was a 10 piece you don’t need to go with a specific kit for worship you need to play to the church and the congregation
I have one too and love it when it’s a tuned properly and allowed to sing. But one doesn’t need a Black Beauty for “that Bethel sound”. Any heavy-duty cardboard box with a few steel BBs or some loose nuts and bolts laying loosely inside and wrapped with duct tape will give you the same sound for a whole lot less money.
Here’s my guide... Drum kit: Get a Yamaha Stage Custom and just be done with it. I have a 20” kick and it’s perfect. You can also add an extra 14” or 16” floor tom later if you want. The DW Design Series brass snare is awesome too. Cymbals: Dream Vintage Bliss are probably the best worship cymbals I’ve found. They don’t make hi hats in that series but just look around for a good 15” or 16” pair. But go AS THIN AS POSSIBLE. Drum heads: I like Remo Pinstripes for their versatility (and they’re a little more forgiving when it comes to tuning). The Remo Powersonic Clear is the best kick drum head ever made honestly. Hardware: Look for used stuff on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace. As long as its in good shape, just go for it. Microphones: Samson drum mic kits are great. They’re about as budget friendly as possible and will give you acceptable live and recorded sound (maybe get a slightly better snare mic). Dampening: Gaff tape and some folded paper towels are your best friends, but just make sure the drum is tuned well before you start adding stuff.
I have the same setup: Birch Stage Custom Mark 1 and 20" and 22" dream vintage bliss crash/rides; I use 17" istanbul xist dry dark hi hats. It's the perfect combo and was put together for about $800. I've owned Sonor 3005, Mapex Saturn, and Pearl Masters and while they were great, the first gen SC birch can do it all and I got mine for $275. You just can't beat Yamaha quality and sound. I use vintage coated emperor over coated ambassador. I also have a set of 98 stage customs that sound amazing in their own right. I use frosted ec2s over coated ambassador and they have a perfect vintage sound. Got them for $100. Gretsch is great but that Catalina line feels like it's made of balsa wood. They do sound good but I'm not sure they are as bulletproof as the Yamahas. I'm sure the Renowns and up are excellent. Oh, both sets I put 2.3 mm hoops on the toms. THAT IS KEY!!!!! In my opinion, with the higher lines you are just paying for a nicer looking finish, most of which will look outdated in a decade or so. Just sink your money in cymbals, the higher lines truly make a difference.
Oh last thing take any snare put a name brand snare side head on it, 30 strand puresound snare wires, and a hydraulic head on it and steve's donut big fat snare drum or just a studio ring and you have the fat snare sound. Tune bot to 130hz or 200 for a higher fat crack. No $600 snare needed although they sure are nice.
be interesting to see how the kit sounds when not miced up as there are many churches that dont have the budget (or a room size big enough to even consider micing)
My mom's maiden name is DeBolt and is from the San Joaquin Valley. DeBolt is not a super common last name; so, perhaps Noah and I are related. Nice video :)
Great! Some sweet info here. Following Noah for a while now. Great drummer. One thing I wanne note: I believe that the oh mics are panned wrong? I hear the ride going on my right while it’s left on my screen. Or is everything panned from the drummers perspective? Thanks again for this amazing video! Love to see more content with Noah! Cheers
@@dragonheart2403 They are actually some of the thinnest in the K line And they work great in our church. They are a really nice mix of not super bright but not so trashy either. I think people see mega churches using 24” crashes and think that’s that what every church setting should have but that doesn’t always work if you’re not in a huge venue
Do not place the D6 in the kick like seen on the video so the capsule is on the same plane as resonant head. It will die really soon. Move it few inches inside or outside or tilt it a bit.
Do you gents have a good recommendation for worship tuning? Like, a couple of examples of going from poor tuning to good including preferences for batter head/resonant head tightness? Tone? Moongel vs tape? Examples with popular remo or evans heads? I feel like there are such a plethora of "what to buy" and "how to mic" videos, but not enough "drum tuning for dummies and worship leaders," that especially focuses on tone and frequency. I get it that tone is more within the opinion category, but a good guide would nonetheless be valuable! :)
Go to Rob Brown's website. He has a simple, accurate, quick, easy way to tune. Having said that, you tune for the style of music and the acoustics of the room. There's no one-size-fits-all.
Will you share the tunbot settings you use for each drum? I saw 144 on the floor tom batter head. I'd love to know the numbers for all the heads (top and bottom) on each drum. Thanks!!!
Much better video this time around! One thing I would have liked more - he plays in mostly large settings, which is great. But most churches are small to mid-sized (look at Barna research for more info). I'd much prefer to see a video showing something like "here's how to do it in a church with 1-200 on an average Sunday." With the equipment you already have. No one's micing the bottom of the snare in those settings! Just sayin!
David, great point bro!! This setup still works great in those environments (I talked about it when I mentioned the room size as being a big factor), you just may have to adjust the drum/cymbal sizes a bit for smaller rooms. But the values behind the tones still remain the same! ⚡️❤️
I can totally see the need to give basic advice for certain genres, but I think going too specific is sort of pointless; I'm sure for every opinion you can find a reasonable counter-opinion. I for example play Paiste 13" Dark Crisp hats, and feel they sit pretty well in a worship setting :)
Great video! I’m currently using a 20” Sabian HHX ride which is fairly washy but I’m in a constant battle with sound techs around the volume.. so I’m not sure a 22” or 24” would help? It’s a reasonable sized room with a 1000 person capacity but a bit of a nightmare to mix in. Any tips? Our team have ruled out a drum shield. The songs we play demand intensity and playing lighter is challenging! Thanks 😀
Bigger or lighter cymbal = lower fundamental pitch (all other variables being equal). Washy can be fine if the pitch isn't so piercing and competing with amplified instruments. But a tiny bit of gaffer's tape on the edge of the underside can work wonders. Also, I know how hard it is to play "intense" or fast passages at low volumes - but it can be done and is a skill that takes practice :) But good on your team for ruling out the horrible plexiglass cage :D
Use a lighter ride; HHX is meant for dark projection so they make them medium/heavy at least in their rides. You want dark, but not dark with projection. Get a dream bliss crash ride or vintage bliss crash ride.
Hello, I had a quick question I have a 21 inch k sweet ride I want the rest of the cymbals to be a bit bigger what would be the numbers for the hi hats and Left, right crash? And in the future I will be adding a 19 inch k custom adry trash crash
I play drums at my church and we play the typical rock worship songs. But I buck this trend of having everything pitched low on the kit. Jeff Porcaro (drumming legend) said that when a snare is tuned low the groove lacks the bounce you get when there’s a stronger pitch contrast. Add the cymbals to that and it creates flat grooves that lack energy and drive. That sound is very uninspiring and overdoing the low end is only found in worship drumming. Listen to any of the great drummers today outside of worship music and they all have pitch contrast throughout their kits regardless of the style they’re playing. I think the worst thing you can do is have the entire kit pitched low. A groove is created by having contrast within the pattern. That contrast can come from pitch, dynamics, or timbre. When you have the whole kit pitched low you really only have small timbre changes and dynamics. Great drummers have strong dynamics and can make this work but weaker drummers will sound very flat and stale without the additional pitch contrast. Just my 2 cents.
Great video and gear breakdown! But referring to "Grandma Bertha at 65" hearing issues.....c'mon, that's age discrimination....I'm 67 and a worship team member.
I had wanted to know that also from other worship drummers. But after a lot of research, I found that tuning toms off of perfect 4th chart until I hear the tone that is optimal for my drums and my recording is the best route. As far as the snare goes, 400hz bottom and 220 top is an insider “secret” sweet spot.
@@spencerlawrence8318 Wow, thanks! Now, that you have already been so helpfull I feel encouraged to ask you another question... How about the bass drum, especially when there is dampning on the head, what do you do there?
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Proud to say that noah debolt is one of my favorate worship drummer. Gifted and so humble😊 Godbless you all.
Reymon!! So sweet seeing you over here bro. ❤️
@@DeBoltDrumming Yes bro,im also a follower of this channel😁i love their content too❤️.Happy to see you too. you're famous worship drummer bro⚡👍
Using your IEM cable to check equidistance from snare to overheads might be the best tip of this video
Super simple, and not many drummers doing it either! ⚡️
#Facts
This was the most thorough explanation of a great starting point setup for worship music. I'm gonna share this with so many people.
I think a lot church’s make the mistake of buying equipment without consulting their musicians. Musicians that have been playing for a while have a certain sound that they like and church’s have a nac for buying cheap drums and cymbals or going with what the sales person recommends. Each drum company has their signature sound and each drummer likes what they like.
My previous church uses the drummer's kit as their main kit. It's a nice kit, and the drummer can't play it in his flat because of space and neighbours.
Wise words
I totally agree. I'm lucky my church consults me whenever they buy any drum gear because I play almost every week. I still like to bring some of my own gear though =)
BRO EXACTLY! I tune my drums to my liking and everytime the guitarist or someone else grabs my tuning key and tunes the drums differently or tried to tell me how to play🤦🏽♂️
This was a much needed video for new worship team drummers and EXPERIENCED worship team leaders. I plan to sit down with my team leader, watch this with him and advise some changes. Thank you so much for being thorough and covering all the bases!
So proud to know Noah! He’s so gifted and humble.
Dude. Thanks Jacob ⚡️❤️
Hi..I transitioned to playing drums from playing bass not more than a year ago and I'm really grateful that this channel dives deep into important information that sometimes might be otherwise ignored.
I use the exact kit but with a 18inch kick drum
I love this kit. I’m a worship leading drummer who has sort of specialized in low volume drumming. The mahogany help so much with that. I have identical for my church and my self. And I’ve helped at least 8 other churches get one, too. I’ve also landed on Meinl Byzance Extra Dry cymbals. Very dark and responsive at love volume with a cool complex texture.
What an amazing video! Thanks so much for sharing. I really love the way Noah explained and detailed literally every part of drums. I'm really really satisfied!
Noah plays with so much passion! Great all round video!
I'm really proud of Noah! He is really excellent in what he does. THE BEST DRUMMER IN THE WHOLE WORLD!
Thanks Gustavo ⚡️❤️
Shoutout to Noah! Great job man!
As a drummer of over 15 years playing in churches from one thousand something people to churches with 20 people, the most important part of the church drum set and sound is CYMBALS! Usually when people complain about the drums being “too loud” they probably aren’t referring to “volume” (decibel level of sound output) but harshness/loudness, which largely comes from the cymbals. Obviously this is dependent on the room and acoustics but if you have a pleasant sounding set of cymbals generally people won’t complain haha. Invest in the cymbals best for your venue and sound and budget the rest of the kit around the cymbals.
Ive been binging Church front for a few weeks now, and also ive just subscribed to noah from Debolt a month ago and to see this video!!
Seth, appreciate it bro ⚡️❤️
I can’t say enough good things about Noah. What a journey! He loves Jesus and loves using his craft to disciple people. He puts so much time in and is as real as it gets. Thank you! I can say the same about Jake !
Also, if you guys haven’t heard or checked him out yet, JR Ezeugwu is another drummer who is an awesome human who loves Jesus and stays slaying on the kit. Seriously , 🔥...
Whoa, what a collab! Two of my favourite worship channels! Thank you Jake, Noah and the entire Churchfront team for making this amazing guide, it's so well structured and everything is explained in detail, but in a simple enough language for wide audience to understand!
Petar!! So glad you enjoyed bro ⚡️❤️
Perfect person for this topic
Thank you! Some Really Great Information! 👍🏾
Yes!, I been waiting this for so long
I think that if you are on a tight budget spend great amount of it on cymbals. You can tweak the sound alot on shells with different heads, muffling and tuning, thats my personal experience.
Yep
Thanks to you guys I picked up a tune-bot. Wish me luck with tuning!
Good luck!! ⚡️❤️
You need to learn how to tune by ear, its an invaluable skill if you plan to play drums for any length of time. Just like tuning any other instrument, you NEED to train your ears. Technology is great, but you need the full range of the skill of tuning, learn to tune properly
Yo! Great tips! I should show my church this
Really Informative 👍
Thanks a lot ❤️
Great video! Thanks guys!
Great video! Noah is such a legend
Awesome brother!! THANKS 😊 🙏
I'm all on his 4/4 on Reckless Love. 😂🤭✌️
Much love for Noah!
Great content! Thanks 🙏🏽 😊 🤩
Great content! Thaks🙏😊😍
I play in a worship band in a small church (the sanctuary is small floor area with high ceilings). The drums are not mic'd at all. The drum kit I use (it's mine left set up more or less permanently in the church) is a Ddrum 'SE Flyer' small bop sized kit (14 x 18" kick, 8 x 12" rack tom, 14 x 14" floor tom, 5 x 14" wood shell snare). I replaced the OEM snare batter head with an Evans '56 Calftone batter head to give it a warmer tone. Cymbals are 14" Zildjian A New Beat highhats, 14" Zildjian A thin crash, 18" Zildjian A medium ride, 16" Zildjian A thin crash, and a 10" Sabian B8 Pro China Splash for effects. The kick drum batter head has a built-in foam muffle ring (forgot the exact brand). Snare drum and rack tom batter heads have no muffling; the floor tom has a small piece of folded duct tape on the batter head. This combination works out perfectly for the church I play in if lower volume is called for I use regular wire brushes, 'Ed Thigpen' signature plastic brushes, or plastic 'Blastick' bundle rods depending on the tune. We only have a trio: percussion, piano, vocals, and an acoustic guitar so volume control is important. My cymbal selection runs counter to those suggested in the video but I've found with judicious application of volume control they work quite well in our church setting. My favorite sticks in the church setting are Regal wood-tip 7A jazz sticks but I use Vic Virth Dave Weckl signature sticks nylon tip for more contemporary 'worship rock' tunes. Also use wound cloth yarn headed cymbal mallets for cymbal washes and soft tom passages. All this I arrived at after much experimentation with drum sizes, cymbals and stick selection works well in our church but each church is different so the gear has to be selected for the venue. Great informative video.
Great video...thank you .
Churchfront X Noah! Best day ever!
Broooo you killed thissss ❤️⚡️
Let's go Noah! You inspire me to become better each day :)
Edit: your hihats are bigger than my crash (17in > 16in)
bro that is crazy 😂
ThankQ so much..this helps a lot
Thanks to DeBolt , who recommended this!
enjoy!!
Nice tutorial. The church I go to uses more ping when it comes to the ride cymbal, but worship styles vary.
1.21 gigawatts of insight...great job
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Re phasing: the wavelength of a 1kHz tone is about 12 inches. Therefore to cause complete cancellation, one microphone would need to be 6 inches further from the source than the other. The distance is greater for lower tones and less for higher ones. The problem is worst with double micing a snare, because, as the top skin moves down (away from the microphone) the bottom skin will also be moving down, but towards the microphone
Melhor baterista de worship
Back in my day of worship drumming we used to build much bigger kits because we didn’t play any tom driven songs like now. Which there’s a lot of. We had a lot more cymbals and more than two toms. Now in every church I see the same size 4 or 5 piece one up and one or two down three or four cymbal set up.
When making the comp showing off Noah’s videos, you should have put the ‘This is Amazing Grace but it’s an 8th note before’ video just for laughs lol.
😂 😂
My brother deBolt💪😎
I heard this on a speaker🔊 🥳🤯🤯🔥🔥
Yeah Noah!!!!🙌🏽
Brooooo, good stuff!
Brooooo,
Good stuff!
I totally agree my church has birch drums and they kind of drive me nuts sometimes. I mean it sounds ok, but so much attack and quick decay.
😍😍 Noah the goat
Wasnt looking fr this but realised i probably need this
Finally a real drummer on here
I think the sizes of the drum set at which he’s sitting, are perfect. You can’t go wrong with a 12, 14 & 20 setup. I prefer a 13” snare, but that’s not critical.
Use all of this as a general rule with drumming in general, most of it really, it all comes down to preference. In the end.
Ludwig Acrolite is my favorite snare.
I started on a tama superstar that was a 10 piece you don’t need to go with a specific kit for worship you need to play to the church and the congregation
real simple: negotiate a budget with your drummer(s) and let them piece together a kit. then ask them to maintain it.
Beautiful kit and interviewer has stamped steel folding chair lol
I have a 6.5x14 Black Beauty, it truly is the Holly Grail snare drum.
I have one too and love it when it’s a tuned properly and allowed to sing. But one doesn’t need a Black Beauty for “that Bethel sound”. Any heavy-duty cardboard box with a few steel BBs or some loose nuts and bolts laying loosely inside and wrapped with duct tape will give you the same sound for a whole lot less money.
@@TheDrumphile HAHA!!! Agreed, tuned that low, any snare (or box) will do.
Here’s my guide...
Drum kit: Get a Yamaha Stage Custom and just be done with it. I have a 20” kick and it’s perfect. You can also add an extra 14” or 16” floor tom later if you want. The DW Design Series brass snare is awesome too.
Cymbals: Dream Vintage Bliss are probably the best worship cymbals I’ve found. They don’t make hi hats in that series but just look around for a good 15” or 16” pair. But go AS THIN AS POSSIBLE.
Drum heads: I like Remo Pinstripes for their versatility (and they’re a little more forgiving when it comes to tuning). The Remo Powersonic Clear is the best kick drum head ever made honestly.
Hardware: Look for used stuff on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace. As long as its in good shape, just go for it.
Microphones: Samson drum mic kits are great. They’re about as budget friendly as possible and will give you acceptable live and recorded sound (maybe get a slightly better snare mic).
Dampening: Gaff tape and some folded paper towels are your best friends, but just make sure the drum is tuned well before you start adding stuff.
WHO ASKED YOU?!?!
Kidding! We used a Stage Custom for a while and it was cool. 👊🏼
I have the same setup: Birch Stage Custom Mark 1 and 20" and 22" dream vintage bliss crash/rides; I use 17" istanbul xist dry dark hi hats. It's the perfect combo and was put together for about $800. I've owned Sonor 3005, Mapex Saturn, and Pearl Masters and while they were great, the first gen SC birch can do it all and I got mine for $275. You just can't beat Yamaha quality and sound. I use vintage coated emperor over coated ambassador.
I also have a set of 98 stage customs that sound amazing in their own right. I use frosted ec2s over coated ambassador and they have a perfect vintage sound. Got them for $100.
Gretsch is great but that Catalina line feels like it's made of balsa wood. They do sound good but I'm not sure they are as bulletproof as the Yamahas. I'm sure the Renowns and up are excellent.
Oh, both sets I put 2.3 mm hoops on the toms. THAT IS KEY!!!!!
In my opinion, with the higher lines you are just paying for a nicer looking finish, most of which will look outdated in a decade or so. Just sink your money in cymbals, the higher lines truly make a difference.
Oh last thing take any snare put a name brand snare side head on it, 30 strand puresound snare wires, and a hydraulic head on it and steve's donut big fat snare drum or just a studio ring and you have the fat snare sound. Tune bot to 130hz or 200 for a higher fat crack. No $600 snare needed although they sure are nice.
be interesting to see how the kit sounds when not miced up as there are many churches that dont have the budget (or a room size big enough to even consider micing)
Chipper! 🙌🏽 I see you my guy lol 🔥
Chipper!, 🙏🙏😊
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My mom's maiden name is DeBolt and is from the San Joaquin Valley. DeBolt is not a super common last name; so, perhaps Noah and I are related. Nice video :)
Great Video. By chance you have the line up of cymbals he's using? I know it's heartbeat overall, but in specifics..Thanks
Hey. What are the circle lights that you have in the background? got an amazon link? I know this question was way off topic. My bad.
Great! Some sweet info here. Following Noah for a while now. Great drummer.
One thing I wanne note: I believe that the oh mics are panned wrong? I hear the ride going on my right while it’s left on my screen. Or is everything panned from the drummers perspective?
Thanks again for this amazing video! Love to see more content with Noah!
Cheers
Bro much love!! ⚡️❤️
Yes, that is correct! I think Jake panned it based on camera/audience POV (being opposite of drummer POV) on purpose. ⚡️
I don’t know if anyone here has tried Zildjian K Sweets but boy do they sound killer
They are too bright and thick for a church setting
@@dragonheart2403 They are actually some of the thinnest in the K line
And they work great in our church. They are a really nice mix of not super bright but not so trashy either. I think people see mega churches using 24” crashes and think that’s that what every church setting should have but that doesn’t always work if you’re not in a huge venue
One of the best videos ever made!!!
Yes bro ⚡️⚡️
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Bring back 5+ piece drum kits! So tired of seeing the typical 4 piece kits, bring creativity and skill back to worship drumming!
I agree totally! I play a six piece drum set at my church, more options, more colorful playing!
What note and frequencies do you guys tune the toms’ batter/reso for rock worship?
I have a 16x16 FT and a 12x10 rack Tom.
Do not place the D6 in the kick like seen on the video so the capsule is on the same plane as resonant head.
It will die really soon.
Move it few inches inside or outside or tilt it a bit.
All you need are Gretsch drums and Zildjian K dark cymbals... you're all welcome!🙏🏼☀️
or sabian hhx complex, those are great too
Can’t forget about the MCD and MDD pedals (though those are overkill)
Ludwig Black Beauty!
What were the specific models of the cymbals he used? Were they all from the Heartbeat Epic series? Classic series?
Do you gents have a good recommendation for worship tuning?
Like, a couple of examples of going from poor tuning to good including preferences for batter head/resonant head tightness? Tone? Moongel vs tape? Examples with popular remo or evans heads?
I feel like there are such a plethora of "what to buy" and "how to mic" videos, but not enough "drum tuning for dummies and worship leaders," that especially focuses on tone and frequency. I get it that tone is more within the opinion category, but a good guide would nonetheless be valuable! :)
Go to Rob Brown's website. He has a simple, accurate, quick, easy way to tune. Having said that, you tune for the style of music and the acoustics of the room. There's no one-size-fits-all.
Will you share the tunbot settings you use for each drum? I saw 144 on the floor tom batter head. I'd love to know the numbers for all the heads (top and bottom) on each drum. Thanks!!!
Hey David! If you go to debolt drumming, he has video on what he uses in terms of tunebot settings (not sure if he took it down)
Can you properly do rudiments with the left stick turned?
My biggest take away is that homie didnt pickup some fresh moongels for the shoot 😭😭😭
Nice vid tho fellas!
how bout the Oak kits, my church bought a Yamaha Oak Custom a few years back
I love Yamaha drums! I still have my Beech customs they made years ago!
how do you use the tunebot to tune your toms!
Can you please tell us what frequency’s did you tune that kit 🙏
I play drums at church and this is so accurate lol
Glad you agree ⚡️❤️
Is that the auditorium for your church ???
What are the tunebot settings for this kit?
Much better video this time around! One thing I would have liked more - he plays in mostly large settings, which is great. But most churches are small to mid-sized (look at Barna research for more info). I'd much prefer to see a video showing something like "here's how to do it in a church with 1-200 on an average Sunday." With the equipment you already have. No one's micing the bottom of the snare in those settings! Just sayin!
David, great point bro!! This setup still works great in those environments (I talked about it when I mentioned the room size as being a big factor), you just may have to adjust the drum/cymbal sizes a bit for smaller rooms. But the values behind the tones still remain the same! ⚡️❤️
I can totally see the need to give basic advice for certain genres, but I think going too specific is sort of pointless; I'm sure for every opinion you can find a reasonable counter-opinion. I for example play Paiste 13" Dark Crisp hats, and feel they sit pretty well in a worship setting :)
Yeah he was way too worried about specific brand. Meinl dream paiste zildjian all make “dark big” cymbals.
@@TheMrfuzzyface zildjian makes thin cymbals? 😂😂 their “thin” rides are like 3300 grams. Heartbeat, Dream, Istanbul all around 2600.
@@timbaggott8192 constantinople.
@@TheMrfuzzyface even the k con 24 light ride was like 3200 grams I owned one. Still thick
@@timbaggott8192 cool. I have two Renaissance rides that are both under 2700 grams
Have you tried using triggers
Great video! I’m currently using a 20” Sabian HHX ride which is fairly washy but I’m in a constant battle with sound techs around the volume.. so I’m not sure a 22” or 24” would help? It’s a reasonable sized room with a 1000 person capacity but a bit of a nightmare to mix in. Any tips? Our team have ruled out a drum shield. The songs we play demand intensity and playing lighter is challenging! Thanks 😀
Bigger or lighter cymbal = lower fundamental pitch (all other variables being equal). Washy can be fine if the pitch isn't so piercing and competing with amplified instruments. But a tiny bit of gaffer's tape on the edge of the underside can work wonders.
Also, I know how hard it is to play "intense" or fast passages at low volumes - but it can be done and is a skill that takes practice :) But good on your team for ruling out the horrible plexiglass cage :D
Use a lighter ride; HHX is meant for dark projection so they make them medium/heavy at least in their rides. You want dark, but not dark with projection. Get a dream bliss crash ride or vintage bliss crash ride.
Really feel Remo has monopoly when it comes to coating. Evans is used too but not to same extent.
Shoul'd i take remo or evans coated?
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Woo hoo.
The first comment ! 😊
What about full bubinga?
What about bubinga? And does the kit in the video have what bass drum size?
Looks like drum sizes are 14 snare, 12in rack, 14in floor, 20in kick. Not sure about bubinga but I know it’s pricey
Hello, I had a quick question
I have a 21 inch k sweet ride I want the rest of the cymbals to be a bit bigger what would be the numbers for the hi hats and
Left, right crash? And in the future I will be adding a 19 inch k custom adry trash crash
18-19 crashes, and maybe some 15” hats
Thanks bro !
tune bot settings?)
I play drums at my church and we play the typical rock worship songs. But I buck this trend of having everything pitched low on the kit. Jeff Porcaro (drumming legend) said that when a snare is tuned low the groove lacks the bounce you get when there’s a stronger pitch contrast. Add the cymbals to that and it creates flat grooves that lack energy and drive. That sound is very uninspiring and overdoing the low end is only found in worship drumming. Listen to any of the great drummers today outside of worship music and they all have pitch contrast throughout their kits regardless of the style they’re playing. I think the worst thing you can do is have the entire kit pitched low. A groove is created by having contrast within the pattern. That contrast can come from pitch, dynamics, or timbre. When you have the whole kit pitched low you really only have small timbre changes and dynamics. Great drummers have strong dynamics and can make this work but weaker drummers will sound very flat and stale without the additional pitch contrast. Just my 2 cents.
Great video and gear breakdown! But referring to "Grandma Bertha at 65" hearing issues.....c'mon, that's age discrimination....I'm 67 and a worship team member.
I have a tunebot too. Can you tell specifically what frequenzies each drum at?
I had wanted to know that also from other worship drummers. But after a lot of research, I found that tuning toms off of perfect 4th chart until I hear the tone that is optimal for my drums and my recording is the best route. As far as the snare goes, 400hz bottom and 220 top is an insider “secret” sweet spot.
@@spencerlawrence8318 Wow, thanks!
Now, that you have already been so helpfull I feel encouraged to ask you another question... How about the bass drum, especially when there is dampning on the head, what do you do there?
are the toms a P4 apart?
When you hear the drum set in a faster worship, it sounds like a electronic pop drum kit.
We have Luke Holland at home