I towed a flatbed trailer (1,500 lbs) with a medium tractor (4,500 lbs) with loader and backhoe on my land with virtually no road and up/down 10 mi long steep road with my 2004 4Runner (V6). Quite frankly, I barely felt those 6,000 lbs and had no issues with brakes.
4Runners have 5 speed transmissions, so when it downshifts twice, you were mostly towing up those hills in third gear. Really appreciate the video. It was helpful to see real world towing in the range we would tow (fishing boat and small enclosed trailers). Thanks.
my friends four runner got stuck in his back yard. it's 4x4 but street tires ain hooking up like an aggressive tire would. he pulled it out with his z71
Thank you for the video. This was excellent! Your content was exactly what I was hoping to see. Thank you for being honest and experienced and taking the time to review something you normally wouldn't drive or tow with
Excellent video! We tow with our 4Runner regularly, but our setup is anything but stock. Things that help the most in our experience: Brake Controller (the 4Runner is prewired for this), Rear Spring Airbags (inexpensive to add and help leveling and sway), Stiffer Rear Springs (our current setup), and regearing to a better gear ratio (we are now running 4.56:1 gears over the stock 3.73:1 gears). Just some suggestions for anyone that "needs" to tow with the 4Runner. Cheers!!!
Great info, Mark, thanks. I'm looking to overland for an indefinite period and considering modding my 4R for towing. Do you know what the weight of your trailer is? And has it still been going well? From the video above it just seems like the vehicle would be constantly working so hard - like, fine for a weekend, but as a way of life maybe not so much. And he was just going over hills, while I'll be going over mountains. Do the mods really help? Do they either improve gas mileage or even reduce it further? Ugh, torn...
@@amy2brno2b The above modifications I mentioned have really made all the difference in the world for towing. Our trailer weight is right at 1,600lbs loaded (CAT Scale - June 19, 2021). Our trailer is a HEO (Highland Expedition Outfitters) T3.5 with an aluminum body/frame that is heavily modified and loaded up. Even with the light trailer, the tongue weight is high enough with my full steel rear bumper that the airbags have been a true life saver for ride quality and handling. I really have not found anything that helps with MPGs... The 4.0L V6 just isn't made to make good torque until you get into the higher RPMs. The higher RPMs means the more fuel you use unless you retune the engine. The biggest improvement I found was regearing. This helps the engine run at higher RPMs and makes it not work as hard. What this does for the driver is help with fatigue as you aren't fighting to find the right gear, and the drivetrain components are not under as much stress. The downfall is that the "taller" gear ratio you go with means the more RPMs. That translates to using more fuel when you are unloaded. We take our setup to Colorado several times a year (we are originally from Fort Collins area). Towing the trailer over mountain passes is a night-and-day difference when you regear, and we only went with 4.56 gears - 4.88 gears would be even better if you are doing full-time towing. The reason I went with 4.56 over a taller gear ratio is because this is also my daily driver. My 60 mile round trip to the office means I chew through fuel, and 4.88 gears would mean my fuel economy unloaded would go down as well. The other thing is that I live in Texas - land of 80 MPH Interstate Speed Limits. With the 4.88 or 5.29 gears, I would really eat up fuel to be at 80+ MPH. That being said - the 4.56 gears love to cruise at 80 MPH. I average 16 MPG with mud tires, bumpers, winch, extra fuel, hi-lift, armor, and a fridge when I am using my 4Runner unloaded as a daily driver. Towing will take me down to 13-14 MPG depending on conditions. The 4Runner is still much more comfortable to tow with after making all the changes I made. The biggest things that KILL your fuel economy - tire roll resistance, aerodynamics, and WEIGHT. I have all 3 working against me. Daily driving ~16 MPG Towing+Loaded ~13-14 MPG
@@TrailorSailYT wow thank you for all that info. Dang, you did all that for 1600lbs; the travel trailers I'm looking at will end up around twice that. :\ And I'm really eyeing that new lime green TRD Pro.
I’m glad I picked the right video to watch. You did good encouraging me for when I have to tow a trailer with a Harley inside with my 2020 4 Runner. Made me kinda sick in stomach hearing yours rev high going up hill, but it got better after. Thank-you for your video
Thanks for posting this! it answered my questions about a 4 runner towing a utv. Glad to see it handles it fine, i am with you i use my pickup 99% of the time but is nice to have another option.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I just picked up a 2021 Limited. I got a bit worried when I read on some sites that 4runners are bad at towing. My last tow vehicle was a 2011 Nissan pathfinder. I figured the 4runner would tow similar to that. I tow/launch/retrieve a double waverunner trailer with 2 Seadoo RXT 260's .
I’m currently looking to buy a 4Runner and the Salesman said you can install a brake controller. I have a 12’ dual axle utility trailer plus a SXS so it’s nice to hear it does ride nicely. Great info.
Thanks for doing this video. This is exactly what I want to haul with my 19’ Trd. The wife an I feel it would be more comfortable than towing this combo with my 16’ gas 6.0 Chevy on long trips. Looks like gas mileage will be a wash between the 2 though. About 10mpg. Towed the atv’s from NC to Utah last year with the Chevy. It did a good job but the sleeping will be a lot more comfortable in a 4Runner while traveling.
Thank you for this video! I have a 2019 4Runner Limited. Never towed before, but starting to think about it. Your video gives me a lot of confidence if I decide to tow a camper.
Thanks very much, I am planning to haul a trailer 2500 pounds from Kansas to Pennsylvania with my 2022 4Runner in a couple of week. I’ve never hauled before so your video was very helpful
Thanks for the video, my wife is making a trip cross country with a trailer and we were in the dark about how it would tow. Glad to know that we need to look at a smaller trailer. The ones we were looking at were exactly the size you had.
same here and I was playing the video at 1.5x speed. The first couple seconds I was like, "is he really tailgating with almost 4000 on his ass at 105 mph?!?!?" "oh, it's gotta be kph ha so like 60 or so lol"
I couldnt ask for a better video. Looking to get a travel trailer for my 4runner, and was curious about its towing capabilities. this info is priceless
I own a 2011 SR5 and wondered the same thing. I don't want to own a truck and love the 4runner. We bought an 18ft 3300lb dry travel trailer and rolled the dice with how well it could tow it. I've only towed it a few times but it was very hilly/mountainy and the rig did great and I didn't have the brake controller in yet (I was extra cautious). I was quite surprised how good it all felt and my mpg wasn't bad at all. I'm no towing expert so just my .02. I had to manually downshift a few times on inclines and it performed great. On a few big hills I put it in low gear to ease off the brakes but always felt in control. Trans was shifting crisp and quick when in manual. Worked great IMO and I plan on doing a lot of towing with it. Thanks for your video!!!
Thank you for this video learned slot currently having to build a camper out of a utility trailer to live out of and theirs not enough info on affordable tow vehicles but this is a starting point
I tow a 5K+ lb boat with my '13 15 times a summer. I added Air Lift bags to the rear springs to level the truck out. Sure, more torque would be nice, but the 4Runner gets the job done. It helps if the trailer is well balanced and has good brakes (I have disks on both axels).
Any videos on this? Have you weighed the tongue weight or everything at a station? Also are you hitting any inclines or declines during your road trips? One last question any passengers or cargo adding extra weight? I plan on getting a 4,200 lb trailer just looking for real world feedback
Do you think it could pull a 6K boat out of the water? My boat, motor, fuel, trailer + gear = 6300lbs. I just need to pull out of the water x2 a year and bring to mechanic about a 1mile away. thats it. Any reason why it wouldnt do it?
We tow an Aliner which is about 2500 lbs, loaded, with our 4Runner. When it gets into the 8-10% grades uphill in the western states, yeah, it gets down on its knees, but never stops. Normal towing we get 15-16 mpg running at 60-65mph. Downhill, it has a wonderful gearing that holds it very well so we are not constantly on the brakes. We have a brake controller so that helps a lot. Overall, it tows well for trailers up around 50% or so of its tow capacity. It is a fun vehicle and tows great.
4 runner has excellent visibilty, decent power, to tow with. If I ever buy a trailer (and I plan to,) good to see what its capable of. Nice video..well done sir!
This was the best video I saw so far. 4-Runner would be the SUV I would buy if I want to tow a small trailer. Despite what many others said about the 5,000 lbs capacity, I would limit the trailer to no more than 3,000 lbs dry. (3,000+300 tongue+300 water +350 passengers = 3,950). I would be unrealistic otherwise. Still it will take he hills at 65 MPH. I think the 4-Runner would be the best tow vehicle for up to mid size trailer if it has more HP. Ideal wold be 7,000 lbs capacity.
Thanks. Your video just saved me about $19K and saved my 2018 4Runner a lot of wear and tear. I have been seriously considering buying a Wolf Pup travel trailer for me and the mrs. I think we'll stick to our little 4 x 6 cargo trailer to carry our Gazelle T4 Plus and our gear.
Great video. In reviewing my owners manual for my 4Runner, it requires trailer brakes if you tow more than 1655 pounds. It has a trailer brake controller plug from the factory that you can use to add a trailer brake, such as my Terkonsha unit. Over 2000 pounds you must use a sway control device and over 3000 pounds must have two axles on the trailer per the owners manual.
Are you actually towing with your 4Runner now? My TRD Premium has a placard that states a maximum of 835 lb payload capacity with a yellow amendment sticker that says "Payload is reduced another 50 pounds due to vehicle modifications". Seem like the limiting factor for a 4Runner wouldn't necessarily be the Tow Rating, but rather it's Payload Capacity. 3 adults + a 350 pound trailer hitch would put it over the limit.
@@TheJaxsonjack If I tow anything it’s very short distances with few people and gear inside the vehicle. You’re absolutely right that its payload is a huge limiting factor. I think if you want to tow something substantial or just frequently, you really just need a truck.
Got the same 7x14 toy hauler. Towed it empty 900miles from the factory with my 2006 4.7l v8 4runner. No issues but do use my F150 since then. I built mine into a bird camp for upland hunting. Kennel on wheels with a flying brIdge, bunks, kitchen, 200ahr 12v system. BTW got 10mpg from a normal 19hwy.
This was a great video. Thanks ! I have a 2019 Off Road 4 Runner and am purchasing a 3,000 lb dry weight camper. Was concerned about whether it could pull it. I think it can!
Not sure if you ever monitor these old vids, but I want to thank you for being the best review I could find. We purchased our 4Runner this winter after taking a chance (i.e. hoping your assessment was accurate for us) and this week hooked our 18' trailer up. The Toyota pulled it around town just fine and I am especially impressed by how well the trailer brakes are integrated; MUCH better than my truck's aftermarket controller. The hill we took it up did require some upshifting, as your video shows, but we are especially happy to find out that we can own a sub-half-ton and still travel with our trailer. MANY thank to you. Peace.
@@nukerog Mine does. It senses when the trailer is hooked up with the stock round towing plug under the left-rear side. Works TONS better than the aftermarket I have on my old truck.
I really do appreciate this video! I have a 4Runner and I'm considering towing an Airstream Basecamp. This has helped my confidence level a lot. Thank you!
I appreciate this video. I don't need to tow heavy, but we have a boat and I need to be able to get it safely to the water. We have been looking at Grand Cherokee and 4Runner, leaning towards GC because of the higher tow ratings (with the V8). This makes me feel much better about the 4Runner!
I believe Toyota recommends putting the vehicle in S4 (sequential shift, 4th gear max) to ensure the transmission doesn’t hunt for gears and the engine is in a more optimal RPM range for power. 4th is also the 1:1 or direct drive ratio. This was in the owners manual when I owned a 2012 4Runner Limited
@@EricAlanMedia I’m thinking the same. Sadly they only have 5 speed transmissions. It would be nice if they did get the 3.5/6 speed option that the Tacoma uses. Extra pep and fuel economy.
Great video. Funny looking at the disparity of comments: from "oh, cool, great to know my 4Runner can tow 5000lbs, gonna buy a trailer tomorrow, woot!" to "bummer, guess I need to get a better tow vehicle." lol For me, I think your video is a perfect underscore of "yes my 4Runner CAN pull a travel trailer, but unfortunately it just probably SHOULDN'T," especially for an extended period of overlanding. Looks like it would just be too hard on the vehicle over time. I'm still considering it with mods, though, so I need to do a little more research. The consensus seems to be trailer brake controller, suspension air bags, transmission cooler, and possibly also regearing, supercharger, and better vehicle brakes. Then I'll have to try to decide if I think all those mods will really help enough to be worth doing them.
Moving back to NS and was looking to buy one of these. Your video is the first one recommend....I'm like hey, I live up there on Cox's lake!! Thanks for the video, think I made my choice.
You measured the squat with the rear door down on the trailer. What would be the impact if you had the trailer closed up? Do the trailer brakes reduce the squat during breaking? What is the actual weight you are hauling with the 4 wheeler loaded? Do you think the transmission would stand the test of time hauling this load sporadically a few time a year? Would you add the transmission cooler option to your 4Runner and Air Bags to the suspension? Sorry for all of the questions. I appreciate your expertise.
Thank you for making this video I am interested in a forerunner and have a travel trailer that is 7 feet wide 21 feet long and total weighs 3700 pounds so this was a really great comparison I really appreciate it
Sajesh Enampurath no I didn’t yet still currently use 2017 f150 to tow it. I think 4runner is underrated for towing as most other vehicles like it would be able to tow 6-7k pounds like the Tacoma
Great demo; thanks for posting. I bought my 2020 4Runner SR5 new in Dec 2019. I am looking to get an RV but the 4Runner is not for the size RV I want. I really hate to sell it with only 8,800 miles on it. If I had the configuration in your video, I probably couldn't go the speed limit of 80 MPH where I live (and not sure I want to pull any trailer that fast). When you measured the rear fender, it went from 37" to 35" but the trailer door was still on the ground. Did you measure it with the full weight of the door being closed?
Thanks for this video! We just bought the 2020 Limited and forgot to have the Prodigy Brake Controller moved from the previous Tacoma to the new 4Runner limited and are panicking because no RV Service Depts have time to install for us. From your video it looks like we might be ok towing without it if we have to? We are pulling a 2017 Jayco Hummingbird travel trailer thats 2950 lbs unloaded.
Thank you so much for making this video!! I’ve been wanting a 4th gen 4Runner as my tow vehicle for a 7x12 trailer to live in full time and I was debating if I could make it with a v6 w/4WD versus a v8 w/4WD. Or possibly a v6 w/4WD versus a v8 w/2WD. You’ve definitely shown that a v6 is really pushing it so a v8 it is in order to keep the vehicle safe and stable. Now there’s the question of the drivetrain lol I’m jealous of you car savvy folk since I’m now having to learn as much as I can before purchasing! Anyways, thanks again for your experiment, loads of people have benefitted from it!
I towed a 18ft travel trailer with the v6 and anti sway e2 equalizer hitch 4th gen. I would not go any longer because of how short the wheel base is. It did fine.
@@AdamConstantine how much weight I’m looking at a 19’ 3500lb dry weight to tow.. gx460 though so tow capacity is higher with v8 but same chassis pretty much as 4Runner
Great vid! From what I understand, 4th gear is the gear to tow per the manual. It's too much on the transmission otherwise, constant shifting, etc. leading to overheating of the transmission. I try to baby my 5th gen. When I know it's going to downshift from 4th gear I just go ahead and lower the speed and take it easy. I've got a trailer brake and am towing a 21' travel trailer, keeping it at about 4,100 lbs. Using an equalizer hitch.
I’m towing a power chair (460 lbs) with a power chair lift (125 lbs) so all tongue weight, would you think the 4.0 could handle that or should I shoot for the 4.7 models?
What a great video. I just bought a 2017 SR5 Premium a week ago. I will br towing a 3,500 lb bass boat. I will be driving arounr 5 hours 1 way a couple times a year. Did you install an external transmission cooler or does the one off the radiator do fine?
Thanks for the video, we just ordered a '21 4R Nightshade for our company, will also tow a 17' Casita. Looking forward to getting it. Your video was reassuring. Thanks!
Did you ever get the casita? I’m in the same situation. Bought a 21 4r and considering a 17’ casita. If you did buy it, how is the 4R doing pulling it?
@@bebedubz559 Yes, we took delivery in September. We have only had two camping trips so far, the furthest was only 45 minutes away, just to get a feel for towing. The 4R tows without issue. You barely knows it's even back there. I did add a trailer brake controller since we plan much further trips out west, and since the 4R was pre-wired for it, it was a snap to install.
@@CRHK88 omg congratulations!!! that’s great. So when you guys hook it up does the 4r sag a lot? Hows the mpgs when towing? Sorry I’m just so indecisive. But the casita is on top of the list just cause of the weight. They also seem like great trailers.
@@bebedubz559 Thank you. We love it. It's only two of us which is the perfect size, but our 80lb German Shepherd is kind of pushing it for space sometimes. lol When we are full loaded with camping gear, and grill, it is already a lot of weight in the 4R, so when I hitch the Casita, it does cause enough sag that my headlights rise (annoying to oncoming traffic.). It's not too bad and drives great, but enough to notice at night when our headlights are running high. But, I did install an Anderson Weight Distribution Hitch after our last trip, so we will see how that works. I am told we could just rearrange our gear to the camper to better distribute the weight and we should be good, but we will likely travel with a lot of gear and would prefer to have a WD hitch to be safe. For the price/features, it's hard to beat the Casita. It tracks like butter and I prefer the body on frame of the 4R to me previous unibody SUV, a Subaru Ascent. We haven't had long, but it is truly full featured and has good sized tanks, compared to others we looked at, we upgraded to the larger size water tank. Also, the carpet interior seemed odd at first, but after camping in 40 degree weather 2 weeks ago, it really seems to make a difference. Our heater didn't have to run that often to keep the camper at 70-72 degrees The 4R was a no brainer though. Wanted one for 20 years and it doesn't disappoint. It doesn't have near the features of my previous vehicles but it is sure footed and very capable, and most importantly has a reputation for reliability. In terms of MPG, I have been getting around 12-14, but that is with a LOT of weight in it. We are new to camping so we likely carry way more than we need. We scaled back each time we go, so probably after a dozen or so trips, we will be down to about 60-70% of where we are at now.
Sounds great. You need to post a video one day when you get the wd hitch and trailer hooked up. I’d like to see what it looks like. I’m really leaning towards getting one now though. Thanks 🙏🏽
We have exactly the same as your 4 runner on this video. What is the maximum loading weight for around 2.000Lm travel with2 adults and 2 children? What are your trailer's size and dry weight? Thank you.
As other commentators thanks for the info. I was considering a 2022 Jayco camper that weighs 5K wet the max my 2021 4Runner SR5 Premium is rated. Not gonna do it ..nope I ain’t gonna do it. Damn it! I wanted that camper so bad too. 😎
8 mpg with that many hills and that cold a temperature isn’t horrible. Figure could probably get 10-12 towing a boat in summer on flat ground. Wish it had an 8 speed gearbox though.
For reference. I have a 2019 Tacoma sport. I did the ov tune. I tow all the time. For work I tow a 6x14 v nose tandem axle. Probably 2800lbs with tools. On flat highway I' m usually around 18L/100 at 110km/hr. Even better at lower speeds.
Thx for doing this video. I have a 23 trd off road prem. What would you recommend for size of enclosed trailer? We’d be camping out of it and hauling 3 dirtbikes and gear. Camping only every so often. Would you with a 7x14, maybe a slanted vee nose, maybe all aluminum construction, maybe torsion spread axles to lower deck height etc.? Again I want enclosed but I won’t be hauling heavy loads. Thank you for any input. You mentioned you had a foot of extra height in this trailer….. would me going with a foot less of overall height make a difference. Thx again
Exactly what I was looking for. Love the 4 runner, was my go to when I outgrew the Tacoma. Will eventually need somthing bigger but good to see what the camper I'm picking up tomorrow will cause it to behave like. (Minus the sway bars and brake controller)
How is that camper working out? I'm looking to do the same, but I'm torn about whether to keep my 4R or just get something else. Have you gone long distances? Hills/mountains? Do you know what the dry weight is of your camper? Finally, what kind of gas mileage are you getting? I knew it would be bad but damn, 8-9 is ugly... :\
@@amy2brno2b GVWR 3860, does ok as long as you take it slow. The hills of PA and Harper's Ferry had been OK. Packed too much on a beach trip to Delaware and it road heavy. Will refrain from hauling fire wood, 4R full of family, and trailer at the same time as that much weight really starts to bog it down. At 45 MPH, speeding down hills and going slow up I could almost get 13 MPG.
Thanks for making this video! I've been looking for a vid like this for awhile. I was wondering what you think how these mods might help or hinder my 2016 Trail w/ KDSS w/ 2.5in lift & upgraded with Bilstein shocks. The mods I was thinking about adding are a trans cooler, airbags in the rear, Magnusson Supercharger, brake controller/trailer brakes, and whatever the best hitch is to use to avoid sway. I'm trying to figure out if this would be enough to pull a 3,300lb double-axle camper safely for about 6k mile roadtrip in the Rockies.
Thanks for making!! I have been thinking about investing in a geo pro and upgrading my Rav4 to the Highlander. Now I am thinking Tundra. 8 mpg is HORRIBLE for a cross country traveling nurse...
I do have a 2014 Runner and just bought a rpod camper to haul and agree whole heartedly with this review, I have over sized 18” tires though...question if I went back down to stock size would I get a little better performance ? Thank you
Finally the wife went outta town and left her 21 4runner so I got to tow see how it tows. I went threw alot of hills like this with cruise control on and it was interesting lol. I drive a work van with a v8 and have a gti with a 4 cylinder with a turbo. The 4runner engine and transmission reminds me of driving a piece of machinery or a tractor. It's weird at first because I'm use to a on road vehicle sounds a particularly way and shifting differently but after this video I'm more comfortable with how it reacted. Thanks for the Video! I tow a 12 ft utility trailer with one 5200lb axel on it. I use it for dirt bikes and or sport quads and heavy 4x4 atvs. Im curious how many yards of clean dirt I could safely haul threw flat town lol trail says not to exceed 3900lbs
thank you for doing this video! i have an 18' off road and was debating how i'd be towing a 19' jetboat that weighs around 3100 pounds including trailer.
I put a pedal commander on my 2020 ORP. Makes a world of difference. I keep it in city 4. Havent towed with it yet but in the future, I want to get a 13ft scamp trailer. There a 1000 pounds. Or may get a awning and closed room.
just what I needed to see...I just sold my 6.7 cummins....I only need to tow a 1000lb aluminum enclosed trailer with a Vnose 500lbs of gear and 500lb of bike or quad....getting a 4runner this week...
Any issues with payload when towing? The label on the side of my 4Runner says max cargo and occupants = 885 lbs. That’s next to nothing when you factor tongue weight, cargo and your family…
Nice... I have the trd off road and haul a little trailer loaded with a few thousand pounds..no problems.... But I guess I never had a vehicle made for towing because as long as the back tires weren't rubbing and the tounge dragging .. it would tow lol
Very good video. If Toyota would switch to an 8 speed, it would help. Still, not a bad vehicle for lighter loads. Love the sport / manual mode for towing. Thanks
Excellent video! I am going to be getting a 2020 4Runner ORP and am brand new to towing. I am hoping to be able to pull a NuCamp T@B400 Boondock with it. What would you say would be the max weight I could pull and can I put a WD hitch on it?
Toyota have adaptive transmissions. It takes a bit of driving before it builds a model of the driver and vehicle conditions. A different driver who is very light footed will rest the trans memory after driving.
I'm looking to pull a RV but not around country or state just to a lot to live out of..? I've towed my friends 30' bus type RV which was like 10k I took him 3 miles but was at 2am and in 4Lo didnt even press the gas(when i did was no problem) .... since he had to use the breaks.
I towed a flatbed trailer (1,500 lbs) with a medium tractor (4,500 lbs) with loader and backhoe on my land with virtually no road and up/down 10 mi long steep road with my 2004 4Runner (V6). Quite frankly, I barely felt those 6,000 lbs and had no issues with brakes.
Thanks for the video! We are considering a 4runner for some towing capabilities but mostly as a family vehicle and this video helps a ton!
4Runners have 5 speed transmissions, so when it downshifts twice, you were mostly towing up those hills in third gear. Really appreciate the video. It was helpful to see real world towing in the range we would tow (fishing boat and small enclosed trailers). Thanks.
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Finally a video showing the 4Runner towing!
Good review!
my friends four runner got stuck in his back yard. it's 4x4 but street tires ain hooking up like an aggressive tire would. he pulled it out with his z71
Thank you for the video. This was excellent! Your content was exactly what I was hoping to see. Thank you for being honest and experienced and taking the time to review something you normally wouldn't drive or tow with
Excellent video! We tow with our 4Runner regularly, but our setup is anything but stock. Things that help the most in our experience: Brake Controller (the 4Runner is prewired for this), Rear Spring Airbags (inexpensive to add and help leveling and sway), Stiffer Rear Springs (our current setup), and regearing to a better gear ratio (we are now running 4.56:1 gears over the stock 3.73:1 gears). Just some suggestions for anyone that "needs" to tow with the 4Runner. Cheers!!!
Great info, Mark, thanks. I'm looking to overland for an indefinite period and considering modding my 4R for towing. Do you know what the weight of your trailer is? And has it still been going well? From the video above it just seems like the vehicle would be constantly working so hard - like, fine for a weekend, but as a way of life maybe not so much. And he was just going over hills, while I'll be going over mountains. Do the mods really help? Do they either improve gas mileage or even reduce it further? Ugh, torn...
@@amy2brno2b The above modifications I mentioned have really made all the difference in the world for towing. Our trailer weight is right at 1,600lbs loaded (CAT Scale - June 19, 2021). Our trailer is a HEO (Highland Expedition Outfitters) T3.5 with an aluminum body/frame that is heavily modified and loaded up. Even with the light trailer, the tongue weight is high enough with my full steel rear bumper that the airbags have been a true life saver for ride quality and handling.
I really have not found anything that helps with MPGs... The 4.0L V6 just isn't made to make good torque until you get into the higher RPMs. The higher RPMs means the more fuel you use unless you retune the engine. The biggest improvement I found was regearing. This helps the engine run at higher RPMs and makes it not work as hard. What this does for the driver is help with fatigue as you aren't fighting to find the right gear, and the drivetrain components are not under as much stress. The downfall is that the "taller" gear ratio you go with means the more RPMs. That translates to using more fuel when you are unloaded. We take our setup to Colorado several times a year (we are originally from Fort Collins area). Towing the trailer over mountain passes is a night-and-day difference when you regear, and we only went with 4.56 gears - 4.88 gears would be even better if you are doing full-time towing.
The reason I went with 4.56 over a taller gear ratio is because this is also my daily driver. My 60 mile round trip to the office means I chew through fuel, and 4.88 gears would mean my fuel economy unloaded would go down as well. The other thing is that I live in Texas - land of 80 MPH Interstate Speed Limits. With the 4.88 or 5.29 gears, I would really eat up fuel to be at 80+ MPH. That being said - the 4.56 gears love to cruise at 80 MPH. I average 16 MPG with mud tires, bumpers, winch, extra fuel, hi-lift, armor, and a fridge when I am using my 4Runner unloaded as a daily driver. Towing will take me down to 13-14 MPG depending on conditions. The 4Runner is still much more comfortable to tow with after making all the changes I made.
The biggest things that KILL your fuel economy - tire roll resistance, aerodynamics, and WEIGHT. I have all 3 working against me.
Daily driving ~16 MPG
Towing+Loaded ~13-14 MPG
@@TrailorSailYT wow thank you for all that info. Dang, you did all that for 1600lbs; the travel trailers I'm looking at will end up around twice that. :\ And I'm really eyeing that new lime green TRD Pro.
I've been trying to get a video that shows this exact thing. Very helpful.
I’m glad I picked the right video to watch. You did good encouraging me for when I have to tow a trailer with a Harley inside with my 2020 4 Runner. Made me kinda sick in stomach hearing yours rev high going up hill, but it got better after. Thank-you for your video
Thanks for posting this! it answered my questions about a 4 runner towing a utv. Glad to see it handles it fine, i am with you i use my pickup 99% of the time but is nice to have another option.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I just picked up a 2021 Limited. I got a bit worried when I read on some sites that 4runners are bad at towing. My last tow vehicle was a 2011 Nissan pathfinder. I figured the 4runner would tow similar to that. I tow/launch/retrieve a double waverunner trailer with 2 Seadoo RXT 260's .
I’m currently looking to buy a 4Runner and the Salesman said you can install a brake controller. I have a 12’ dual axle utility trailer plus a SXS so it’s nice to hear it does ride nicely. Great info.
Thanks for doing this video. This is exactly what I want to haul with my 19’ Trd. The wife an I feel it would be more comfortable than towing this combo with my 16’ gas 6.0 Chevy on long trips. Looks like gas mileage will be a wash between the 2 though. About 10mpg. Towed the atv’s from NC to Utah last year with the Chevy. It did a good job but the sleeping will be a lot more comfortable in a 4Runner while traveling.
Thank you for this video! I have a 2019 4Runner Limited. Never towed before, but starting to think about it. Your video gives me a lot of confidence if I decide to tow a camper.
Thank you. Very informative review; with, spot on information on the 4Runner’s towing capabilities and relative handling.
Thanks very much, I am planning to haul a trailer 2500 pounds from Kansas to Pennsylvania with my 2022 4Runner in a couple of week. I’ve never hauled before so your video was very helpful
I really appreciate this video. Thanks for your time, energy, and money spent doing it.
Really appreciate the video! Used to pulling with my super duty so it’s nice to see I can pull with my 4R as well.
Thanks for the video, my wife is making a trip cross country with a trailer and we were in the dark about how it would tow. Glad to know that we need to look at a smaller trailer. The ones we were looking at were exactly the size you had.
Josh Atkinson great! Glad to help
great vid - beautiful area. thanks for all the info and expertise
Oh dang, I thought you were towing at over 100 MPH, then I realized it was KPH. :) Great demonstration.
same here and I was playing the video at 1.5x speed. The first couple seconds I was like, "is he really tailgating with almost 4000 on his ass at 105 mph?!?!?" "oh, it's gotta be kph ha so like 60 or so lol"
Me too, I went out to the garage to check mine. I was thinking, "I thought my odometer stopped at 120 mph". LoL
Thanks for the video! Exactly what I was looking for
Thanks, this is just what I was looking for - Appreciate it !
I couldnt ask for a better video. Looking to get a travel trailer for my 4runner, and was curious about its towing capabilities. this info is priceless
I own a 2011 SR5 and wondered the same thing. I don't want to own a truck and love the 4runner. We bought an 18ft 3300lb dry travel trailer and rolled the dice with how well it could tow it. I've only towed it a few times but it was very hilly/mountainy and the rig did great and I didn't have the brake controller in yet (I was extra cautious). I was quite surprised how good it all felt and my mpg wasn't bad at all. I'm no towing expert so just my .02. I had to manually downshift a few times on inclines and it performed great. On a few big hills I put it in low gear to ease off the brakes but always felt in control. Trans was shifting crisp and quick when in manual. Worked great IMO and I plan on doing a lot of towing with it. Thanks for your video!!!
when you were towing were you on 2wd or using 4 low ?
@@Pete1987pl you can’t use 4 low. He was probably in 4h
Thank you for this video learned slot currently having to build a camper out of a utility trailer to live out of and theirs not enough info on affordable tow vehicles but this is a starting point
I tow a 5K+ lb boat with my '13 15 times a summer. I added Air Lift bags to the rear springs to level the truck out. Sure, more torque would be nice, but the 4Runner gets the job done. It helps if the trailer is well balanced and has good brakes (I have disks on both axels).
Any videos on this? Have you weighed the tongue weight or everything at a station? Also are you hitting any inclines or declines during your road trips? One last question any passengers or cargo adding extra weight? I plan on getting a 4,200 lb trailer just looking for real world feedback
Do you think it could pull a 6K boat out of the water? My boat, motor, fuel, trailer + gear = 6300lbs. I just need to pull out of the water x2 a year and bring to mechanic about a 1mile away. thats it. Any reason why it wouldnt do it?
We tow an Aliner which is about 2500 lbs, loaded, with our 4Runner. When it gets into the 8-10% grades uphill in the western states, yeah, it gets down on its knees, but never stops. Normal towing we get 15-16 mpg running at 60-65mph. Downhill, it has a wonderful gearing that holds it very well so we are not constantly on the brakes. We have a brake controller so that helps a lot. Overall, it tows well for trailers up around 50% or so of its tow capacity. It is a fun vehicle and tows great.
4 runner has excellent visibilty, decent power, to tow with. If I ever buy a trailer (and I plan to,) good to see what its capable of. Nice video..well done sir!
This was the best video I saw so far. 4-Runner would be the SUV I would buy if I want to tow a small trailer. Despite what many others said about the 5,000 lbs capacity, I would limit the trailer to no more than 3,000 lbs dry. (3,000+300 tongue+300 water +350 passengers = 3,950). I would be unrealistic otherwise. Still it will take he hills at 65 MPH. I think the 4-Runner would be the best tow vehicle for up to mid size trailer if it has more HP. Ideal wold be 7,000 lbs capacity.
Thanks. Your video just saved me about $19K and saved my 2018 4Runner a lot of wear and tear. I have been seriously considering buying a Wolf Pup travel trailer for me and the mrs. I think we'll stick to our little 4 x 6 cargo trailer to carry our Gazelle T4 Plus and our gear.
Great video. In reviewing my owners manual for my 4Runner, it requires trailer brakes if you tow more than 1655 pounds. It has a trailer brake controller plug from the factory that you can use to add a trailer brake, such as my Terkonsha unit. Over 2000 pounds you must use a sway control device and over 3000 pounds must have two axles on the trailer per the owners manual.
Are you actually towing with your 4Runner now? My TRD Premium has a placard that states a maximum of 835 lb payload capacity with a yellow amendment sticker that says "Payload is reduced another 50 pounds due to vehicle modifications".
Seem like the limiting factor for a 4Runner wouldn't necessarily be the Tow Rating, but rather it's Payload Capacity. 3 adults + a 350 pound trailer hitch would put it over the limit.
@@TheJaxsonjack If I tow anything it’s very short distances with few people and gear inside the vehicle. You’re absolutely right that its payload is a huge limiting factor. I think if you want to tow something substantial or just frequently, you really just need a truck.
Got the same 7x14 toy hauler. Towed it empty 900miles from the factory with my 2006 4.7l v8 4runner. No issues but do use my F150 since then. I built mine into a bird camp for upland hunting. Kennel on wheels with a flying brIdge, bunks, kitchen, 200ahr 12v system. BTW got 10mpg from a normal 19hwy.
Good too know u put it through the paces it did pretty good js ...
This was a great video. Thanks ! I have a 2019 Off Road 4 Runner and am purchasing a 3,000 lb dry weight camper. Was concerned about whether it could pull it. I think it can!
I’m looking at a 6x14ft utility trailer for my kayaks. Thanks for sharing this video! Very helpful.
Appreciate the video, thanks for posting.
Not sure if you ever monitor these old vids, but I want to thank you for being the best review I could find. We purchased our 4Runner this winter after taking a chance (i.e. hoping your assessment was accurate for us) and this week hooked our 18' trailer up. The Toyota pulled it around town just fine and I am especially impressed by how well the trailer brakes are integrated; MUCH better than my truck's aftermarket controller. The hill we took it up did require some upshifting, as your video shows, but we are especially happy to find out that we can own a sub-half-ton and still travel with our trailer. MANY thank to you. Peace.
What are you doing for an electric brake controller in the 4Runner? There is no factory brake controller that I'm aware of in 4Runners.
@@nukerog Mine does. It senses when the trailer is hooked up with the stock round towing plug under the left-rear side. Works TONS better than the aftermarket I have on my old truck.
@@justal4844 wtf how?
@just4844 is it a Toyota-installed factory option? What year?
@@DrXtophYes 2021
Was considering the runner because I needed the extra seats but thanks to this video will have to try a sequioa.
Excellent review. I have an F250 and been thinking about a TRD Pro
I really do appreciate this video! I have a 4Runner and I'm considering towing an Airstream Basecamp. This has helped my confidence level a lot. Thank you!
Thanks for the video, I have the same 2018 limited like yours, now I know it can tow camper with it!
I appreciate this video. I don't need to tow heavy, but we have a boat and I need to be able to get it safely to the water. We have been looking at Grand Cherokee and 4Runner, leaning towards GC because of the higher tow ratings (with the V8). This makes me feel much better about the 4Runner!
Thank you so much for posting this. I have a 2005 4runner and I'll be towing my husband's car out of state.
I believe Toyota recommends putting the vehicle in S4 (sequential shift, 4th gear max) to ensure the transmission doesn’t hunt for gears and the engine is in a more optimal RPM range for power. 4th is also the 1:1 or direct drive ratio. This was in the owners manual when I owned a 2012 4Runner Limited
Yeah I can see that but damn it would be at over 3000rpm the whole time.
workplaytv yeah, it’s crazy. They do it with the Tundras too.
would you recommend S4 for towing a 3k pound boat even if its in no elevation like flat florida?
@@workplaytv The gear that you were thinking was 4th gear was actually 3rd gear.
@@EricAlanMedia I’m thinking the same. Sadly they only have 5 speed transmissions. It would be nice if they did get the 3.5/6 speed option that the Tacoma uses. Extra pep and fuel economy.
Great video. Funny looking at the disparity of comments: from "oh, cool, great to know my 4Runner can tow 5000lbs, gonna buy a trailer tomorrow, woot!" to "bummer, guess I need to get a better tow vehicle." lol
For me, I think your video is a perfect underscore of "yes my 4Runner CAN pull a travel trailer, but unfortunately it just probably SHOULDN'T," especially for an extended period of overlanding. Looks like it would just be too hard on the vehicle over time. I'm still considering it with mods, though, so I need to do a little more research. The consensus seems to be trailer brake controller, suspension air bags, transmission cooler, and possibly also regearing, supercharger, and better vehicle brakes. Then I'll have to try to decide if I think all those mods will really help enough to be worth doing them.
Thx for this video. Exact info I was looking for!
Thank you. I’m towing a mattress and many boxes of books and kitchen stuff in a 5ftx8ft Uhual ; this video was helpful.
Excellent video! Thank you!
Very nicely reviewed!!
Appreciated this video. Helps a lot! Looking at camper options for my 2020 4runner.
Moving back to NS and was looking to buy one of these. Your video is the first one recommend....I'm like hey, I live up there on Cox's lake!! Thanks for the video, think I made my choice.
Damone Blackman Awesome buddy
You measured the squat with the rear door down on the trailer. What would be the impact if you had the trailer closed up? Do the trailer brakes reduce the squat during breaking? What is the actual weight you are hauling with the 4 wheeler loaded? Do you think the transmission would stand the test of time hauling this load sporadically a few time a year? Would you add the transmission cooler option to your 4Runner and Air Bags to the suspension?
Sorry for all of the questions. I appreciate your expertise.
Thanks!! Question: how does the 8mpg you got with this compare to what you'd get with your other trucks towing the same load?
Thank you for making this video I am interested in a forerunner and have a travel trailer that is 7 feet wide 21 feet long and total weighs 3700 pounds so this was a really great comparison I really appreciate it
I am thinking of getting a similar trailer. Did you already try out ? If so please let me know how it is. TIA.
Sajesh Enampurath no I didn’t yet still currently use 2017 f150 to tow it. I think 4runner is underrated for towing as most other vehicles like it would be able to tow 6-7k pounds like the Tacoma
Great demo; thanks for posting. I bought my 2020 4Runner SR5 new in Dec 2019. I am looking to get an RV but the 4Runner is not for the size RV I want. I really hate to sell it with only 8,800 miles on it. If I had the configuration in your video, I probably couldn't go the speed limit of 80 MPH where I live (and not sure I want to pull any trailer that fast). When you measured the rear fender, it went from 37" to 35" but the trailer door was still on the ground. Did you measure it with the full weight of the door being closed?
Thanks for this video! We just bought the 2020 Limited and forgot to have the Prodigy Brake Controller moved from the previous Tacoma to the new 4Runner limited and are panicking because no RV Service Depts have time to install for us. From your video it looks like we might be ok towing without it if we have to? We are pulling a 2017 Jayco Hummingbird travel trailer thats 2950 lbs unloaded.
Super helpful video. I need to pull a 6x12 UHaul trailer 800 miles so wanted to know what to expect. Thx!
I really appreciated this video. Thanks.
Thank you so much for making this video!! I’ve been wanting a 4th gen 4Runner as my tow vehicle for a 7x12 trailer to live in full time and I was debating if I could make it with a v6 w/4WD versus a v8 w/4WD. Or possibly a v6 w/4WD versus a v8 w/2WD. You’ve definitely shown that a v6 is really pushing it so a v8 it is in order to keep the vehicle safe and stable. Now there’s the question of the drivetrain lol I’m jealous of you car savvy folk since I’m now having to learn as much as I can before purchasing! Anyways, thanks again for your experiment, loads of people have benefitted from it!
I towed a 18ft travel trailer with the v6 and anti sway e2 equalizer hitch 4th gen. I would not go any longer because of how short the wheel base is. It did fine.
@@AdamConstantine how much weight I’m looking at a 19’ 3500lb dry weight to tow.. gx460 though so tow capacity is higher with v8 but same chassis pretty much as 4Runner
thanks for the vid...one question: would you recommend a WDH when towing rpod at 3000# with 4Runner?
Great vid! From what I understand, 4th gear is the gear to tow per the manual. It's too much on the transmission otherwise, constant shifting, etc. leading to overheating of the transmission. I try to baby my 5th gen. When I know it's going to downshift from 4th gear I just go ahead and lower the speed and take it easy. I've got a trailer brake and am towing a 21' travel trailer, keeping it at about 4,100 lbs. Using an equalizer hitch.
I’m towing a power chair (460 lbs) with a power chair lift (125 lbs) so all tongue weight, would you think the 4.0 could handle that or should I shoot for the 4.7 models?
What a great video. I just bought a 2017 SR5 Premium a week ago. I will br towing a 3,500 lb bass boat. I will be driving arounr 5 hours 1 way a couple times a year. Did you install an external transmission cooler or does the one off the radiator do fine?
you're videos are the best
This was great! Thanks! :)
Thanks for the video, we just ordered a '21 4R Nightshade for our company, will also tow a 17' Casita. Looking forward to getting it. Your video was reassuring. Thanks!
Did you ever get the casita? I’m in the same situation. Bought a 21 4r and considering a 17’ casita. If you did buy it, how is the 4R doing pulling it?
@@bebedubz559 Yes, we took delivery in September. We have only had two camping trips so far, the furthest was only 45 minutes away, just to get a feel for towing. The 4R tows without issue. You barely knows it's even back there. I did add a trailer brake controller since we plan much further trips out west, and since the 4R was pre-wired for it, it was a snap to install.
@@CRHK88 omg congratulations!!! that’s great. So when you guys hook it up does the 4r sag a lot? Hows the mpgs when towing? Sorry I’m just so indecisive. But the casita is on top of the list just cause of the weight. They also seem like great trailers.
@@bebedubz559 Thank you. We love it. It's only two of us which is the perfect size, but our 80lb German Shepherd is kind of pushing it for space sometimes. lol When we are full loaded with camping gear, and grill, it is already a lot of weight in the 4R, so when I hitch the Casita, it does cause enough sag that my headlights rise (annoying to oncoming traffic.). It's not too bad and drives great, but enough to notice at night when our headlights are running high. But, I did install an Anderson Weight Distribution Hitch after our last trip, so we will see how that works. I am told we could just rearrange our gear to the camper to better distribute the weight and we should be good, but we will likely travel with a lot of gear and would prefer to have a WD hitch to be safe. For the price/features, it's hard to beat the Casita. It tracks like butter and I prefer the body on frame of the 4R to me previous unibody SUV, a Subaru Ascent. We haven't had long, but it is truly full featured and has good sized tanks, compared to others we looked at, we upgraded to the larger size water tank. Also, the carpet interior seemed odd at first, but after camping in 40 degree weather 2 weeks ago, it really seems to make a difference. Our heater didn't have to run that often to keep the camper at 70-72 degrees The 4R was a no brainer though. Wanted one for 20 years and it doesn't disappoint. It doesn't have near the features of my previous vehicles but it is sure footed and very capable, and most importantly has a reputation for reliability. In terms of MPG, I have been getting around 12-14, but that is with a LOT of weight in it. We are new to camping so we likely carry way more than we need. We scaled back each time we go, so probably after a dozen or so trips, we will be down to about 60-70% of where we are at now.
Sounds great. You need to post a video one day when you get the wd hitch and trailer hooked up. I’d like to see what it looks like. I’m really leaning towards getting one now though. Thanks 🙏🏽
Appreciate the video 👍
Nice video, very informative!
We have exactly the same as your 4 runner on this video. What is the maximum loading weight for around 2.000Lm travel with2 adults and 2 children? What are your trailer's size and dry weight? Thank you.
As other commentators thanks for the info. I was considering a 2022 Jayco camper that weighs 5K wet the max my 2021 4Runner SR5 Premium is rated. Not gonna do it ..nope I ain’t gonna do it. Damn it! I wanted that camper so bad too. 😎
It’d be cool to see how a 4th gen 4Runner with the 4.7 V8 would do
better, duh
8 mpg with that many hills and that cold a temperature isn’t horrible. Figure could probably get 10-12 towing a boat in summer on flat ground. Wish it had an 8 speed gearbox though.
For reference. I have a 2019 Tacoma sport. I did the ov tune. I tow all the time. For work I tow a 6x14 v nose tandem axle. Probably 2800lbs with tools. On flat highway I' m usually around 18L/100 at 110km/hr. Even better at lower speeds.
Thx for doing this video. I have a 23 trd off road prem. What would you recommend for size of enclosed trailer? We’d be camping out of it and hauling 3 dirtbikes and gear. Camping only every so often. Would you with a 7x14, maybe a slanted vee nose, maybe all aluminum construction, maybe torsion spread axles to lower deck height etc.? Again I want enclosed but I won’t be hauling heavy loads. Thank you for any input. You mentioned you had a foot of extra height in this trailer….. would me going with a foot less of overall height make a difference. Thx again
Exactly what I was looking for. Love the 4 runner, was my go to when I outgrew the Tacoma. Will eventually need somthing bigger but good to see what the camper I'm picking up tomorrow will cause it to behave like. (Minus the sway bars and brake controller)
How is that camper working out? I'm looking to do the same, but I'm torn about whether to keep my 4R or just get something else. Have you gone long distances? Hills/mountains? Do you know what the dry weight is of your camper? Finally, what kind of gas mileage are you getting? I knew it would be bad but damn, 8-9 is ugly... :\
@@amy2brno2b GVWR 3860, does ok as long as you take it slow. The hills of PA and Harper's Ferry had been OK. Packed too much on a beach trip to Delaware and it road heavy. Will refrain from hauling fire wood, 4R full of family, and trailer at the same time as that much weight really starts to bog it down. At 45 MPH, speeding down hills and going slow up I could almost get 13 MPG.
Thanks for making this video! I've been looking for a vid like this for awhile. I was wondering what you think how these mods might help or hinder my 2016 Trail w/ KDSS w/ 2.5in lift & upgraded with Bilstein shocks. The mods I was thinking about adding are a trans cooler, airbags in the rear, Magnusson Supercharger, brake controller/trailer brakes, and whatever the best hitch is to use to avoid sway. I'm trying to figure out if this would be enough to pull a 3,300lb double-axle camper safely for about 6k mile roadtrip in the Rockies.
Good suggestion in extras I watched a video on the air bags and sway bar but it def needs a super charger 😢😂so slow ugh
Helpful, thank you !
Thanks for making!! I have been thinking about investing in a geo pro and upgrading my Rav4 to the Highlander. Now I am thinking Tundra. 8 mpg is HORRIBLE for a cross country traveling nurse...
What would you overland with if you wanted to take a Basecamp 20X REI? We are hoping the 4Runner is right. Dry/wet 3500/4300 lbs
I do have a 2014 Runner and just bought a rpod camper to haul and agree whole heartedly with this review, I have over sized 18” tires though...question if I went back down to stock size would I get a little better performance ?
Thank you
Comes with 17.s Keep 17.s more Rubber Less Rim ............. more beans
Finally the wife went outta town and left her 21 4runner so I got to tow see how it tows. I went threw alot of hills like this with cruise control on and it was interesting lol. I drive a work van with a v8 and have a gti with a 4 cylinder with a turbo. The 4runner engine and transmission reminds me of driving a piece of machinery or a tractor. It's weird at first because I'm use to a on road vehicle sounds a particularly way and shifting differently but after this video I'm more comfortable with how it reacted. Thanks for the Video! I tow a 12 ft utility trailer with one 5200lb axel on it. I use it for dirt bikes and or sport quads and heavy 4x4 atvs. Im curious how many yards of clean dirt I could safely haul threw flat town lol trail says not to exceed 3900lbs
thank you for doing this video! i have an 18' off road and was debating how i'd be towing a 19' jetboat that weighs around 3100 pounds including trailer.
I tow my 19ft ar195. It’s not too bad at towing. I wouldn’t go larger though.
I have a 2015 Trail, and I've towed a fiberglass bass boat up an 8% grade no problem. I keep it in 4th gear for hill climbs.
Surprised that ECO light still on when towing such load 😂Appreciate you sharing this info!
Wow excellent video
Thank you, just answered all my question
Godbless
I put a pedal commander on my 2020 ORP. Makes a world of difference. I keep it in city 4.
Havent towed with it yet but in the future, I want to get a 13ft scamp trailer. There a 1000 pounds. Or may get a awning and closed room.
Thanks man. Really helpful video
Great video!!!
Watching this after the highway has been twinned and sure do not miss it!
Tanx a lot for this video !!!
just what I needed to see...I just sold my 6.7 cummins....I only need to tow a 1000lb aluminum enclosed trailer with a Vnose 500lbs of gear and 500lb of bike or quad....getting a 4runner this week...
Any issues with payload when towing?
The label on the side of my 4Runner says max cargo and occupants = 885 lbs.
That’s next to nothing when you factor tongue weight, cargo and your family…
Thank you first time watching replay I have a 2016 Toyota 4 runner looking to tow some personal belongs and want to know what to expect 😊
Nice... I have the trd off road and haul a little trailer loaded with a few thousand pounds..no problems.... But I guess I never had a vehicle made for towing because as long as the back tires weren't rubbing and the tounge dragging .. it would tow lol
Very good video. If Toyota would switch to an 8 speed, it would help. Still, not a bad vehicle for lighter loads. Love the sport / manual mode for towing. Thanks
David Hillbrand Yeah only kept it in drive for purpose of the video.
Great video , thanks,
Excellent video! I am going to be getting a 2020 4Runner ORP and am brand new to towing. I am hoping to be able to pull a NuCamp T@B400 Boondock with it. What would you say would be the max weight I could pull and can I put a WD hitch on it?
Lida Verner what is the dry weight of trailer and estimated total cargo weight so stuff in the vehicle and the trailer. People included
Toyota have adaptive transmissions. It takes a bit of driving before it builds a model of the driver and vehicle conditions. A different driver who is very light footed will rest the trans memory after driving.
I'm looking to pull a RV but not around country or state just to a lot to live out of..? I've towed my friends 30' bus type RV which was like 10k I took him 3 miles but was at 2am and in 4Lo didnt even press the gas(when i did was no problem) .... since he had to use the breaks.