The funny thing is that most of these "Skeptics" do believe in flying tea pots, the flying tea pots surely exist in their "anything that can happen does happen" multiverse...
I know that your comment is old, but that is what I try to make atheists understand. If they're going to appeal to things like an "infinite multi-verse" or some such thing, where every physical potential is actualized, then there exists, by necessity things like teapots, and anything else that's not physically impossible.
If time had a beginning as the current models suggest then God would come from a time or a place or a condition before time existed... In an environment without time there is no cause-and-effect nothing can come before something else. Therefore anything that exist in this environment would have no beginning and no ending it would be timeless and have no cause..... Wow look! The scientists themselves are providing their own answer to where God came from...rr
Things that begin to exist have a cause. Things that are eternal have no beginning or end. God is eternal, so he had no beginning. God never came into being (was not created / had no beginning) and therefore does not require a cause to have done so. TL;DR: No one and nothing created God because he had no beginning, and he had no beginning because he has always existed.
@@horsehung9471 How far back do those beginnings go? If everything has a cause, you must think about what caused each thing and the thing before it, etc. etc.. It goes back in time infinitely. There must be something eternal, something that was not created, that made the first domino fall. That thing is God, and He has the ability to reveal himself to us.
If there is no God , human will become God because of evolution. Ateist said energy cant be created and cant be destroyed. Theist said God is not created. They both cant see energy and God .
and how do you know that there is a god in the first place ... don't just throw words like "god is this god is that" you do not know what is god "if there is a one"
Is Ard really addressing an intelligent audience? I'm done looking at what he might say. There are others on my list. Ard isn't helping at all with how to discuss God with scientists, I think.
It's literally the exact opposite. They're inferring God as an explanation for things they do understand. These are called the logical rules of inference, maybe look them up sometime. If we know that X can't exist eternally for example, and X cannot create itself, and X cannot come from absolutely nothing, then we can infer that X has a cause, and if X is equal to all physical reality, then we can infer that its cause is from a non-physical reality. It's nothing to do with not understanding things, it's that we understand them extremely well. The things that atheist scientists, and atheists in general don't understand are subjects like logic, philosophy etc, so the arguments make no sense to them. Atheism is literally usually a result of lake of understanding.
Things that atheist put their trust in like evolution has been disproved by evolution but yet people believed this demonic theory without proof, but yet they want evidence for GOD!? m.ua-cam.com/video/dWrEczFaygk/v-deo.html
The funny thing is that most of these "Skeptics" do believe in flying tea pots, the flying tea pots surely exist in their "anything that can happen does happen" multiverse...
I know that your comment is old, but that is what I try to make atheists understand. If they're going to appeal to things like an "infinite multi-verse" or some such thing, where every physical potential is actualized, then there exists, by necessity things like teapots, and anything else that's not physically impossible.
Well said. Professor.
If time had a beginning as the current models suggest then God would come from a time or a place or a condition before time existed... In an environment without time there is no cause-and-effect nothing can come before something else. Therefore anything that exist in this environment would have no beginning and no ending it would be timeless and have no cause..... Wow look! The scientists themselves are providing their own answer to where God came from...rr
Things that begin to exist have a cause. Things that are eternal have no beginning or end. God is eternal, so he had no beginning. God never came into being (was not created / had no beginning) and therefore does not require a cause to have done so.
TL;DR: No one and nothing created God because he had no beginning, and he had no beginning because he has always existed.
That is such a stupid statement. Everything has a beginning
@@horsehung9471 How far back do those beginnings go? If everything has a cause, you must think about what caused each thing and the thing before it, etc. etc.. It goes back in time infinitely. There must be something eternal, something that was not created, that made the first domino fall. That thing is God, and He has the ability to reveal himself to us.
If there is no God , human will become God because of evolution.
Ateist said energy cant be created and cant be destroyed. Theist said God is not created. They both cant see energy and God .
and how do you know that there is a god in the first place ... don't just throw words like "god is this god is that" you do not know what is god "if there is a one"
Is Ard really addressing an intelligent audience? I'm done looking at what he might say. There are others on my list. Ard isn't helping at all with how to discuss God with scientists, I think.
People created god to explain things they didn't understand.
bullshit
It's literally the exact opposite. They're inferring God as an explanation for things they do understand. These are called the logical rules of inference, maybe look them up sometime.
If we know that X can't exist eternally for example, and X cannot create itself, and X cannot come from absolutely nothing, then we can infer that X has a cause, and if X is equal to all physical reality, then we can infer that its cause is from a non-physical reality.
It's nothing to do with not understanding things, it's that we understand them extremely well. The things that atheist scientists, and atheists in general don't understand are subjects like logic, philosophy etc, so the arguments make no sense to them. Atheism is literally usually a result of lake of understanding.
Why don't you show some proof of the existence of god?! Professor?
Things that atheist put their trust in like evolution has been disproved by evolution but yet people believed this demonic theory without proof, but yet they want evidence for GOD!?
m.ua-cam.com/video/dWrEczFaygk/v-deo.html