Something Weird is Going On Inside Craftsman's New High Torque Impact Wrench

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2022
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    Our lifetime of TOOL RANKINGS : torquetestchannel.etsy.com This month Craftman and their RP V20 line introduce the CMCF940, their first brushless high torque impact wrench. It's made by the same folks who put out the DeWalt DCF899 many years ago, and shares a lot of dimensional similarity with the model. But as we test the tools and dive into each, we find there's more here than meets the eye and it may be a bit of a sleeper at its core.
    As always, Torque who started this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make (air) impact wrenches. TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources!
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  • @Averna222
    @Averna222 Рік тому +613

    I'm not sure if it would work well, but a video on general disassembly of cordless impacts, how to clean, regrease, what kind of grease to use, things to watch for, etc, would be extremely helpful. This is one of the few channels I would fully trust on the subject.

    • @MrZimmaframe
      @MrZimmaframe Рік тому +13

      Great idea for a video

    • @Guillotines_For_Globalists
      @Guillotines_For_Globalists Рік тому +12

      No reason to disassemble, just "accidentally" drop your impact into your oil collection bin! All kidding aside I assumed my 10 year old Dewalt hammer drill needed a new trigger switch OR a new motor, but for one last go I sprayed CRC electric contact cleaner into the trigger switch mechanism (without disassembling anything nor removing any screws) and that solved the problem entirely. I was having issues not achieving 100% throttle rather than having an issue with the switch not working at all. Occasionally the drill would "ramp up" to full throttle even when squeezing fully but it was very intermittent and most times it seemed to be stuck with a maximum throttle less than full throttle.

    • @SammyM00782
      @SammyM00782 Рік тому +35

      I think maybe that's something AvE would be better at.

    • @MrZimmaframe
      @MrZimmaframe Рік тому +5

      @@Guillotines_For_Globalists the contacts in the trigger get dirty or worn, or both. I used some brake cleaner and some compressed air on my Milwaukee mid torque and it solved the trigger issue i was having. I ended up taking it apart anyway because i was curious and manually cleaned them and it still works great.

    • @MrZimmaframe
      @MrZimmaframe Рік тому +7

      @@SammyM00782 I disagree. By the amount of people who like and think this is a good idea, if TTC want to they should.

  • @ThatOddLife
    @ThatOddLife Рік тому +83

    Sweet! Nothing better on a Saturday morning! This is to me what cartoons are for kids

  • @jeffp6615
    @jeffp6615 Рік тому +103

    As a "retired" ASE mechanic I appreciate videos like this to make informed decisions on cheaper personal tools to acquire for light-duty work around the house along with odd jobs at my current job.

    • @billynomates920
      @billynomates920 Рік тому +1

      exactly why i watch it. 😄

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 Рік тому +1

      Wdym I buy Dewalt tools and use them every day in the shop. Air tools are old news.

    • @ericg4915
      @ericg4915 Рік тому +6

      @@markm0000 do you have the new dewalt dcf900? That thing is a monster. But to be honest I probably would rarely use it, believe it or not my tiny little dcf923 atomic is strong enough to take off lugs, caliper bolts, shock bolts and so on. That little thing is incredible

    • @8180634
      @8180634 Рік тому +2

      @@markm0000 I keep trying to think of an excuse to replace my paid-for-years-ago air tools with battery tools and so far just can't justify it for the amount of work I do these days (rotate tires a few times a year, etc..), but battery tools sure would be nice!

    • @watchinit6063
      @watchinit6063 Рік тому +3

      @@8180634 , I have battery tools, but I also have various air tools. I can't justify the cost of going "all" battery tools & replacement batteries, knowing that I have a good functioning air compressor to work with.

  • @Nascar995
    @Nascar995 Рік тому +137

    Seems like Craftsman is honestly a pretty good platform to buy since you’re getting older Dewalt models with improvements made. Not bad at all

    • @randomusermaximuss
      @randomusermaximuss Рік тому +21

      You have to be careful with that recommendation. In past years multiple manufacturers had license to make power tools under the Craftsman brand. No, they are not interchangeable. These rebranded Dewalt look good, but there needs to be a bit of research before purchase.

    • @2down4up
      @2down4up Рік тому +11

      @@randomusermaximuss Was that before Stanley bought the Craftsman name? Seems to me that with Stanley owning them not they wouldn’t want other brands making Craftsman tools.

    • @JB-uh6dg
      @JB-uh6dg Рік тому +1

      I think Craftsman had SBD make their power tools for a while before they bought the craftsman brand. At the end, all craftsman was was a brand name.

    • @coreycantrell1627
      @coreycantrell1627 Рік тому +2

      @@2down4up correct.

    • @erik34
      @erik34 Рік тому +7

      Craftsman IS good stuff.

  • @tritech
    @tritech Рік тому +48

    Nice seeing Craftsman not just getting junk. I've got a craftsman V60 string trimmer that I've been pretty pleased with that I got on clearance for 80 bucks.

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 Рік тому

      The 20v trimmer is good too

    • @Surmoka
      @Surmoka Рік тому

      Because Stanley B&D (the parent company) discontinued Pörter-Kable, refashioned it in new plastics and started calling it Craftsman, replacing the previous Crapsman. PC has never been worse than higher-mid range despite the old name being absolutely premium

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 Рік тому +1

      @@Surmoka
      I have an old poster cable circular saw and hammer drill.
      They are beasts

    • @ns_racing
      @ns_racing Рік тому +1

      @@Surmoka Sorry to burst your bubble but you are wrong. How is Porter Cable introducing new tools if they are discontinued? They are not

    • @Surmoka
      @Surmoka Рік тому +1

      @@ns_racing is Porter Cable introducing new tools? Where?

  • @montestu5502
    @montestu5502 Рік тому +49

    I figured that since the hammers are interchangeable, you would test the DeWalt with the Craftsman hammer assembly and see what the difference is. Then we could see the contribution of the hammer versus the motor speed.

    • @sandasturner9529
      @sandasturner9529 Рік тому +4

      Interesting idea ☺️💡🤔🤓🧐

    • @wsmcook
      @wsmcook Рік тому +5

      I was waiting for this as well.

  • @pottervi
    @pottervi Рік тому +3

    I'm sure you guys hear it a lot but I love your channel. No fluff or bs. You're to the point and full of information. Thanks

  • @erik34
    @erik34 Рік тому +31

    The wire gauge itself is enough to tell me that the Craftsman was going to put up higher numbers than the DeWalt. SBD likely knew this as well. I love these videos.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce Рік тому +2

      More pixies

    • @erik34
      @erik34 Рік тому +1

      @@wobblysauce That's how we like it 👍

  • @fzrmaverick
    @fzrmaverick Рік тому +91

    I've been enjoying the new High Torque from Craftsman. The trigger delay is definitely a little odd, but it performs really well in my forklift mechanic field.

    • @georgef1176
      @georgef1176 Рік тому +5

      My Milwaukee has a trigger delay oh wait…

    • @erik34
      @erik34 Рік тому +2

      The DeLay has gotta be really annoying. I dunno if I could live with it for too long

    • @kchilz32
      @kchilz32 Рік тому +2

      @@georgef1176 my Milwaukee has a delay as well

    • @str8upn0l1fe6
      @str8upn0l1fe6 Рік тому

      @kchilz32 my grandpas old dewalt set has a slight delay on the drill and impact, but they are close to 7 years old, so I don't know if it's fixed or not. Haven't bought any power tools till now

    • @fzrmaverick
      @fzrmaverick Рік тому +1

      @@georgef1176 cool story man.

  • @jdogdiesel7242
    @jdogdiesel7242 Рік тому +8

    That new dcf900 with the 9ah pack will flip your arms around like a pretzel, snap the bolt off , break the socket and change the earths rotation .....
    Got one as soon as i seen the video ttc did on here a couple months ago.
    All kiddin aside , it will wear out 1/2in sockets on the drive end quick! Its really exceeding what a 1/2in drive can do. Beating even the dewalt and Milwaukee 3/4in impacts.

  • @zacharymurdock6721
    @zacharymurdock6721 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for listening to, and appeasing us! It looks like ill be buying my 11th or 12th V20 tool. I love mine. I haven’t had a single issue out of any tool or battery, even the ones I use and abuse daily.

  • @someyoungguy1923
    @someyoungguy1923 Рік тому +20

    I have all the craftsman impacts which I love. Their battery casings are very weak. All 5 of my batteries are cracked and held together with CA glue. No glass fiber reinforcement and bad case design. Other than that, no complaints. Glad they have a high torque. Keep up the sweet content

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +18

      A surprising amount of brands use proper nylon on the tools then use ABS or ABS+Poloycarbonate on the batteries themselves. And yet what's the most expensive component? Buying batteries. It's silly

    • @PerfectTangent
      @PerfectTangent Рік тому +9

      @@TorqueTestChannel I'm sure it's by design. Engineered failure and planned obsolescence, and all that.

    • @l00nybin
      @l00nybin Рік тому +4

      @@TorqueTestChannel Not silly. Greedy. It puts more money in their pocket since people are frequently reluctant to switch battery platforms. They will buy more of the same before buying different brand tools + batteries.

    • @bigkenny93
      @bigkenny93 Рік тому

      That's the main reason I switched from dewalt to Milwaukee. Dewalts tools are great, but you drop the batteries once and the case shatters. Milwaukees batteries hold up better in a shop environment.

    • @KISSMYACE3203
      @KISSMYACE3203 Рік тому +1

      @@bigkenny93 Milwaukee are really the only tools I've had issues with, one of those being battery cases. Split one open extremely easy, but warranty saved the day.

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the honest review. Watching from Australia with less choice available. Cross branding is similar here where the largest hardware outlet has exclusive deals like Ryobi but selling Einhell gear under the Ozito home brand.

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 Рік тому +5

    I got a craftsman 7 or 8 tool kit last year for $300 delivered. Drill, impact, grinder, sawzall, multitool, circular saw, and light. It's V20 and brushed. It's treated me very well. That price is like a sore peter. You just can't beat it.

    • @Myers_WarRobots
      @Myers_WarRobots Рік тому +1

      But its not the brushless set

    • @busman2050
      @busman2050 4 місяці тому +1

      Not brushless but really good deal nevertheless

  • @peterd2587
    @peterd2587 Рік тому +8

    I have the ridgid line but sure do like your and project farms channels. Thanks for your work,

  • @americansmark
    @americansmark Рік тому +1

    Nice to see Craftsman making a comeback as a quality brand.

  • @hooliganrc4470
    @hooliganrc4470 Рік тому +2

    Very deeply invested in the craftsman v20 line including their versastack system. My impact, blower and my circular saw easily keep up with DeWalt and Makita (which is what my co workers have) they often pick up my tools. TOO OFTEN.

  • @jamesward5721
    @jamesward5721 Рік тому +4

    I have the Dewalt 899 - it looks pretty much same as the Craftsman to me. I have hammered that Dewalt for years - the anvil is hanging loose but it still works day in & day out - I bought it well, well used btw - it was clapped out when I got it, but it still knocks stuff loose daily. I'd take that Craftsman no problem - bet it's a good tool.

  • @carlosecabezas
    @carlosecabezas 7 місяців тому

    wow! great comparison. I started to use Craftsman tools after many of my Harbor F. tools were too bit up and falling apart. the Craftsman RP series are great!

  • @tommygalipeau5568
    @tommygalipeau5568 Рік тому

    It would be nice if you try it with the 6ah and 9ah, I feel a difference on my brushless circ saw, recip saw, string trimmer and 1/2in mid torque impact, I would like to see the result.
    You really do a nice job, thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @BL-yj2wp
    @BL-yj2wp Рік тому +12

    On the board they switch the electrolytics to solid-state caps.
    Although what usually blows up on power tools are the MOSFETs.

    • @MrMega200
      @MrMega200 Рік тому

      Solid state caps last longer. Generally about 10 years or longer depending on the model of the cap. I see this as an bonus as it seems the electronics is sealed up on a board there, which isn't good for repair-ability, it will at least allow the tool to last longer before the part gives out.

  • @Borp56
    @Borp56 5 місяців тому

    I’m pretty happy so far with my craftsman v20 line. I’m big on value and only a hobbyist with my tools, so they’ve been perfect for what I need.

  • @drahkas8526
    @drahkas8526 Рік тому +10

    I've been watching Gamers Nexus for years, so I really appreciate all the snark and charts in a good product review/test. 😂

  • @thebackwoodsmechanic5029
    @thebackwoodsmechanic5029 Рік тому

    Impressive for the new Craftsman line
    It's smart to makeovers similar across the SB&B line, when you send in tools for repairs. They can fix a lot of tools with similar parts

  • @Geezbnme
    @Geezbnme Рік тому

    Thanks for the great video. Everything I have is Dewalt except the for knock off batteries. I just went to Lowes and purchased the craftsman.

  • @Ka_Gg
    @Ka_Gg Рік тому +1

    Another great video. I work on cars on the side. This impact has plenty of power for most people and good to see craftsman putting up better stuff. Even if it's more comparable to an older model of a better brand, does it really matter? They can do well with the cheaper prices.
    One big thing for me isn't just the impact wrench, but the other tools in the lineup. For example right angle impacts are cool along with ratchets. I'd love to see craftsman have a lineup with those that are just a cheaper version of milwaukee. In terms of the right angle impact, I think the only options are kobalt/milwaukee.

    • @dstblj5222
      @dstblj5222 Рік тому

      It will be cheaper SBD stuff cause that's who owns them

  • @SirDragonClaw
    @SirDragonClaw Рік тому +1

    I would love to see what the unit to unit variance of these tools are, especially from some budget brands like Ryobi compared to premium brands. How likely is it that there is a +or- 10% variance between units?

  • @cynic777
    @cynic777 Рік тому +1

    Thx! Interesting vid..keep the tool companies honest and show us where the hidden “gems” of tools are!

  • @jameshood3692
    @jameshood3692 Рік тому +1

    Seen the craftsmans hight torque at lowes the other night and was pretty impressed with the looks and price and feel in your hand but was still weary bc of the craftsman name getting kinda tarnished lately but with this test the craftsman is definitely a win in my book and would make a great homeowner/diy impact and maybe even a professional impact depending on how long and how well it'd hold up to drops and oils and stuff

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 Рік тому +3

    The stamps on the hammer are likely position numbers for a line producing multiples at once. You see similar position numbers on injection molded parts that are molded several at a time in case one mold position is damaged, clogged, or needs to be machined. You also see location numbers for labels printed on a giant sheet… like sealing labels for single serving tubs of barbecue sauce.

  • @Griffinwoodworks
    @Griffinwoodworks Рік тому +1

    That’s just awesome. If they’d follow suit with the other craftsman tools, they wouldn’t be a Ryobi competitor, they’d be a Ridgid competitor. Still though, good on S/BD for giving the guy in his driveway a chance at breaking crank bolts and pressing ball joints.

  • @BB..........
    @BB.......... Рік тому +1

    I have the original brused V20 impact and the mid-torque brushless; I will definitely be buying this version soon.

  • @timothystevenhoward
    @timothystevenhoward Рік тому +4

    I've enjoyed all my v20 tools as a DIY'er and couldnt be happier, as well as the 80 bones a tool I get to put back in my pocket. Thank you sir. And when will we see a 21700 based v20 battery or a v20 Powerstack from Stanley? probably never, right but could be something they are working on. the battery density could use some upgrading. I do love the 4.0ah batteries. I seem to grab them usually.

    • @juanc5149
      @juanc5149 Рік тому +2

      Just grab yourself a cheap adapter from Amazon and a 21700 battery.
      I’m on the dewalt platform but needed a portable soldering iron and craftsman has it.

  • @jdogdiesel7242
    @jdogdiesel7242 Рік тому +22

    Awesome video as always! Best tool channel running on here!
    Would really love to see that new dcf900 tested with the 9ah fv pack.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +31

      We need to be careful planning where we're pointing it for that, don't want to permanently alter the globe's rotational speed

    • @jdogdiesel7242
      @jdogdiesel7242 Рік тому +3

      @@TorqueTestChannel lol oh man . Just gotta warn everyone in advance to prepare and brace themselves !

    • @ckcuev
      @ckcuev Рік тому

      @@TorqueTestChannel I would really love to see the craftsman 6ah and 9ah battery with this tool on the dyno.

    • @chrisi7456
      @chrisi7456 Рік тому +2

      @ttc would 2nd the recommendation of using the 9ah FV packs in the DCF900 & even the 891

    • @maxbls16
      @maxbls16 Рік тому

      @@ckcuev I’d like to see this tool with dewalt’s 21700 cell packs and vice versa.

  • @sparks2429
    @sparks2429 Рік тому

    The craftsman design language for their power tools is so good looking.

  • @GoogleDoesEvil
    @GoogleDoesEvil Рік тому

    I currently have Ryobi tools; I may get some Craftsman tools in the future if this trend continues. Great work!

  • @russellwatts4784
    @russellwatts4784 Рік тому

    Appreciate the info. My favorite channel by far.

  • @dcxplant
    @dcxplant 5 місяців тому

    I just bought the Craftsman for $179 at Lowes with battery/charger/bag (02/08/24). It worked awesome and is a beast. Very happy.

  • @hustleeveryday5852
    @hustleeveryday5852 Рік тому +7

    The craftsman is at a great price point right now. You get the impact, a 4ah battery and charger for $229. Not a bad price for a decent brushless mid torque.

    • @keatonsmith4088
      @keatonsmith4088 6 місяців тому +1

      My Lowe’s had it on sale for 179$ and I bought it

    • @ms1406
      @ms1406 4 місяці тому

      179 amazon

  • @hu5116
    @hu5116 4 місяці тому

    What I’ve been saying for a long time, Craftsman is the best value of just about all the tools. Not a milwalki, but for the price hard to beat unless you just really need that extra. I have most of craftsmanship V20 tools and have been very happy with them.

  • @ActivityPhoto
    @ActivityPhoto Рік тому +2

    It will be interesting to see how the Craftsman hold up over time.

  • @ChefBoyarDEEZ
    @ChefBoyarDEEZ 7 місяців тому +1

    Sucks you can't seem to buy it bare tool. I already have 4x1.5ah, 4x2ah, and 3x4ah batteries and 3 chargers. I really don't need another battery. Just want the impact. They sell the CMCF920 bare tool but that's only 275tq.

  • @NC-oy8hq
    @NC-oy8hq Рік тому

    Glad to see Craftsman trying to live up to its old name again. Love the bigger wires.

  • @joshmcnamee8025
    @joshmcnamee8025 Рік тому

    Love the channel! Would love to know what torque wrench you used during this.

  • @FyrFytr998
    @FyrFytr998 Рік тому +4

    Having watched the video now, I like where SBD took this tool. 1) It offers up a “High Torque” for the Craftsman brand, and 2) Sitting it between the 899 and 900 appeases both Team Red and Yellow. Red feels they didn’t get absolute junk, and Yellow gets to bask in the glow of superiority of having the most powerful impact wrench.

    • @reccocon3442
      @reccocon3442 Рік тому

      Not very pleased if forking out couple hundred bucks for something near junk.

    • @FyrFytr998
      @FyrFytr998 Рік тому +1

      @@reccocon3442 not one single DeWalt clone has failed me yet. All the PC clones are the ones to avoid. The only bad thing about the High Torque is it doesn’t have a bare tool option.

  • @atcpadi1
    @atcpadi1 Рік тому +3

    Can't wait for that craftsman to come as a bare tool. Good work as always you guys!

    • @MoneyManHolmes
      @MoneyManHolmes Рік тому

      Is this available in non-RP? I’ve noticed that Amazon still sells a lot of the old brushless tools that still have the same design and specs but were replaced by RP.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому

      @@MoneyManHolmes It's a new tool, so never existed in non RP

  • @123donmaster
    @123donmaster Рік тому

    This was a great video. Favorite channel on UA-cam. Love SBD

  • @Tony-rl2fr
    @Tony-rl2fr Рік тому

    Excellent presentation, thank you!

  • @MattSadis
    @MattSadis Рік тому

    Cool! I hope they clone the Craftsman over to the Porter cable line at Tractor supply like they did the 'new' PC mid torque impact so I can buy more.

  • @gordowg1wg145
    @gordowg1wg145 Рік тому

    Cool, as one has learned to expect from your channel, but one minor correction...
    ft.lbs is a unit of WORK DONE, the correct term FOR TORQUE is lbs.ft - they are DIFFERENT things.
    The mix'n'match options may be useful for custom builds, or when picking up "broken" tools and making good.

  • @nelsonmuntz17
    @nelsonmuntz17 9 місяців тому

    Can you review the Porter Cable high torque PCCF940M1 I'd like to see how it compares to the Craftsman and Dewalt equivalent.

  • @K0Kaz
    @K0Kaz Рік тому +9

    I always find these 'rebadged-but-not-really' deals interesting. Getting more out of previously sunk development costs, but making some investment in small changes, maybe cutting manufacturing costs somewhere, meeting a different price point, etc.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +2

      Feel exactly tge same on all those points!

    • @FyrFytr998
      @FyrFytr998 Рік тому +1

      I agree as well. They do it in cars too. When the new flagship models arrive. The trickle down to the lower trimmed models save money. All you need to do is refresh the cosmetics. Like how the newest Nissan Altima always takes cues from last years Maxima. It’s a shame Craftsman doesn’t shift their brushed drills and impacts to DeWalt’s from PC. At least then you could rebuild them.

  • @jeeper3220
    @jeeper3220 Рік тому

    I’ve seen the Bosch with its stacked battery gain a great deal on your recent test. Love to return to the Flex to see if their new stacked lithium is a difference maker.

  • @Maxx1676
    @Maxx1676 Рік тому

    The CMC F940 is a beast....
    The only problem I have is getting the sockets on and off the gun.
    I hate the round cog rings and wish they had the ball type socket release.

  • @fataliity101
    @fataliity101 Рік тому

    Is the T2 and T3 stamp the aging? When I worked at an aluminum extruder, common agings were T2, 3, 4, 5, 6, O temp, F temp.

  • @randomwill7583
    @randomwill7583 Рік тому

    I got excited when the picture showed a dewalt battery on the craftsman impact. I was click baited. But still a great video. Great price for a someone who just needs an impact for occasional use.

  • @sawyerstrom2262
    @sawyerstrom2262 2 місяці тому

    Kinda wanna see what numbers the Mac BWP152 would put out with the 9ah flex volt on your guy’s rig. Mine seems to benefit a great deal with those larger batteries

  • @austinsalyer8966
    @austinsalyer8966 Рік тому

    I would love to see this test redone with the 5amh battery. I do own both the 4, 5, 6 and 9 and I can tell you I feel a difference from the 4-5 and the 5-6

  • @darrenhenderson7076
    @darrenhenderson7076 9 місяців тому

    Need to try 5 ah 6 ah and 9ah. Batteries the 9 ah makes saw and miter run so much better and can tell a huge difference in power on miter with 6ah and 9 ah but the 5 ah sounds like my blower works best with it but 5 ah is hard to get other than the mower that comes with two

  • @chrisose
    @chrisose Рік тому +2

    Increasing the wire gauge from the battery could reduce the voltage drop. This would explain the Craftsman overtaking the 899 as the load increases.

  • @Harvz78
    @Harvz78 Рік тому

    Anybody know where to buy the rubber protective boot for the Dewalt and for the battery?

  • @andrewwmacfadyen6958
    @andrewwmacfadyen6958 Рік тому

    My DCF899 will do me fine for now I did a BMW diesel crank pulley bolt on Rover on Friday using an IR weighted socket it just spun off in less than 2 seconds. So fast I thought I was using the wrong sized socket.

  • @toyotatundra0455
    @toyotatundra0455 Рік тому

    Can you compare the 3/8 Cratsman to the Dewalt? I bought the 3/8 Craftsman after watching your video a few months ago. It's been great for all of my DIY jobs. Thanks.

  • @rebonettir2215
    @rebonettir2215 Рік тому

    I would like to see some tests on cordless tools from Wurth, Fein and Bahco. Would be nice to see how these brands match up with the rest 🙂

  • @ohgood5299
    @ohgood5299 Рік тому

    Specs are specs that is the best thing you said. If it’s something dangerous specs wise it should be disclosed and a spec that is extra safe should be included too for protection measures and that would be explained hopefully

  • @greasemonkeymechanic1
    @greasemonkeymechanic1 Рік тому +1

    My old 899 is sitting in retirement after 5 or so years of hard work. I keep it as a backup for my Milwaukee because it's been such a good gun. Sad to see it's seen it's day as a top contender but it had a good run.

    • @fakenamejones4254
      @fakenamejones4254 Рік тому

      My 899 is still going everyday shop use 4 1/2 years, recently replaced battery. It does 99% of everything, that last 1% I bring out the Ingersoll Rand 2235 I keep in the bottom drawer

    • @MrArcticPOWER
      @MrArcticPOWER Рік тому +1

      @@fakenamejones4254 If the performance of the 899 is plenty for you (as most people), you don't need the new dcf900, you need the dcf891. Similar power but much lighter and smaller.

  • @VulcaNtGoF
    @VulcaNtGoF Рік тому +1

    It feels like I'm going to have to send my 9Ah Craftsman in ... I need to see the differences myself. You can definitely feel the difference in my CMFC920B when I switch from 4ah to 9ah... Another exciting video.

    • @zacharymurdock6721
      @zacharymurdock6721 Рік тому +1

      Im willing to send in mine too. You can tell a pretty decent difference in any of my V20 tools, with 9ah vs 4ah, even the tire inflator, and portable shop vac.

  • @PaulAngileri
    @PaulAngileri 8 місяців тому

    What’s happening here from a tool build perspective is the Craftsman has a few slightly lower grade/lower MTBF parts but is 95% identical. That way Stanley/B&D can spend R&D making one tool and make minute changes for different brands for much less than the cost difference they sell each brand’s tool for. Meanwhile Craftsman buyers can say they get the same tool for less, and Stanley/B&D can make money+ on DeWalt buyers. I think the main difference between the two brand’s few unique parts is going to be the DeWalt will last longer and have more consistent power delivery/battery life, whereas the Craftsman will be more apt to shine bright up front and fade over time.

  • @NRP1991
    @NRP1991 Рік тому +1

    Just incredible I really do like the new craftsman line up red dewalts I suppose

  • @its_shadeo7758
    @its_shadeo7758 Рік тому +18

    I would be interested in seeing if the craftsman could possibly make more power with a 6.0 or 9.0 battery

    • @tommygalipeau5568
      @tommygalipeau5568 Рік тому

      I'm curious about that too

    • @mj-vk9vf
      @mj-vk9vf Рік тому

      I think it would, the flex volt batteries have a different mount than the standard 6amp hr

    • @MoneyManHolmes
      @MoneyManHolmes Рік тому

      The 6.0 battery really wakes up the Craftsman tools. I would love to see a comparison to the 4.0.

    • @its_shadeo7758
      @its_shadeo7758 Рік тому

      @@MoneyManHolmes I know my mid torque definitely makes more with a 9.0 than a 4.0 but I wanna see just how much compared to a 4 or 6 amp. I wasn’t able to remove some lug nuts with a 4.0 that I previously put on with a 9.0.

    • @zacharymurdock6721
      @zacharymurdock6721 Рік тому

      @@MoneyManHolmes the 9.0 really wakes it up. And on any v20 tool. Even on the V20 tire inflator, and portable shop vac, you can tell there’s pretty decent difference.

  • @christopherschneider3323
    @christopherschneider3323 Рік тому +1

    Off topic, but I saw on AutoTechMike’s channel he has a Skil “auto hammer” would be curious to see how it stacks up against air hammers.

  • @XG916
    @XG916 4 місяці тому

    I for real stand by craftsmans tools. I used Dewalt XR tools when I was a contractor in Seattle area in the late 2010s. Now craftsman has the same model on the cheap! People are sleeping man

  • @motorbreath3
    @motorbreath3 Рік тому

    How much more torque could be made by using a shallow socket insted of deep ?

  • @King.DAVid.III2022
    @King.DAVid.III2022 Рік тому

    Thanks brother for sharing 🗡️Low budget, but needed, so bought a Walmart mustool. Seems like built for a woman 🤓 I'll get a better cordless, but did find a new corded craftsman in box $38 box says 450 ftlbs I'll pick it up tomorrow and try it.

  • @kirchbeer2324
    @kirchbeer2324 Рік тому

    Now you gotta test the brushless porter cable mid torque at tractor supply to complete the SBD trifecta!

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 Рік тому

    Interesting information, thanks. 👍

  • @TheVintageEngineer
    @TheVintageEngineer Рік тому

    You guys ever test the Brushed Craftsman 1/2? Model CMCF900

  • @saiiiiiii1
    @saiiiiiii1 Рік тому

    I wonder if there are any tests planned on the battery adapters you can buy from AliExpress. Makita batteries on Milwaukee tools for example.

  • @davidciesielski8251
    @davidciesielski8251 Рік тому

    You sir are a bad ass!!!!!!! Love this channel!!! THANKS

  • @ns_racing
    @ns_racing Рік тому

    Because of this channel I have bought both the 891 and 900 and am blown away by them! Quick question. Has the anvil on the 900 ever got sort of locked up and the gun would impact while just pulling the trigger with no socket on it? Very weird occurance but happened to me first time using it.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +1

      Thats a sign of a tight or non lubed anvil bushing or the motor being clocked wierd and needed to be aligned like seated fully

    • @erolcalpito7714
      @erolcalpito7714 Рік тому

      I thought I'm the only one that have this problem but mines is from my DCF923B, I already return 2 and I'm on my third one lol,

    • @ns_racing
      @ns_racing Рік тому

      @@TorqueTestChannel I took the nose cone off and the anvil was super tight like wouldn't spin inside the bushing by itself, no gears attached until I used pliers to free it. Would polishing the anvil help at all or is it chalked and should exchange it? Thanks for the reply though I super appreciate it!

    • @dwightvoeks9970
      @dwightvoeks9970 Рік тому

      I had the same issue with an impact driver on first use. It even let out some smoke. I immediately thought I would have to return it dead but after it cooled I tried it out the next day and it's been running strong since. That was about 10 years ago. I use it weekly and sometimes for weeks on end

    • @ns_racing
      @ns_racing Рік тому

      @@jbatterden no it was impacting like I was trying to remove a bolt tightened at 1000 ft/lbs then it froze made some weird electronic noises then went back to normal. Been fine since

  • @ericg4915
    @ericg4915 Рік тому +15

    Dewalt has the best battery line, the best impacts including the 900 which is strongest impact on the market. They are really killing the game for now, that will probably change eventually but if I was just starting to invest in a tool line currently I would get dewalt hands down

    • @erik34
      @erik34 Рік тому +2

      I fully agree, Eric. DeWalt for the win.

    • @ianjay4596
      @ianjay4596 Рік тому +1

      Can I ask why dewalt beats milwaukee for batteries?

    • @andrewk8636
      @andrewk8636 Рік тому

      @@ianjay4596 60v

    • @MrClassifide
      @MrClassifide Рік тому +1

      @@ianjay4596 the flexvolt batteries are really clever. Where other brands divorce battery lines,
      Makita 40v, Ryobi 40v, mx-fuel big black batteries.
      DeWalt made the higher performance battery tie into the old platform, making it more versatile.
      But if you leave the red cap off for like a year they drain themselves.

    • @tihspidtherekciltilc5469
      @tihspidtherekciltilc5469 Рік тому

      @@MrClassifide Clever but heavy and run down quicker than they should in any of my 20V tools. They definitely wake the grinder up but if I didn't have two I'd be using my corded grinder(s).

  • @pellabandgeek
    @pellabandgeek Рік тому

    PLEASE test some Masterforce (Menards brand) tools for those of us in the Midwest. I've got several of their drills/drivers and would buy an impact if I knew it was any good.

  • @johnspence2466
    @johnspence2466 Рік тому

    Love honest reviews

  • @master6435
    @master6435 Рік тому

    On ebay there is an adapter for kobalt 24v battery to dewalt 20v and milwaukee 18v what would have if you overvolt the tool?

  • @cosmic_fire3145
    @cosmic_fire3145 Рік тому

    I've only compared the Dewalt to the Milwaukee on an 8x8 military truck that has 10 lugs per wheel all torqued to 600 foot pounds. The Milwaukee came out on top by doing the job faster and the Dewalt burnt out. I will probably get the Hercules ultra and test that when I can

  • @darrenhenderson7076
    @darrenhenderson7076 Рік тому

    Hey I'd like to see the 9 ah battery on that craftsmen because everything I got of craftsmen the 9ah without 21700 cells seems to give a good boost to any tool it goes on and was wondering if we can get the numbers up

  • @terrytingley7461
    @terrytingley7461 Рік тому

    Does anybody know does dewalt make the dcf 900 in a 3/4 drive? What the number would be?

  • @MrDmadness
    @MrDmadness Рік тому

    Great channel. No b.s. just good solid tests. Subbed.
    I'd be interested in seeing another new c4aftsman compared to that one. It's interesting that cm is better than Dewalt here but I feel, tool age could be a factor and I'm wondering if qc is consistent on cm.. ive had large variance in cm tools in the past, I use their sockets in places where socket drop is very likely, or as around house sockets

  • @BedjamRivera
    @BedjamRivera Рік тому

    I want to see this craftsman high torque tested with the 6ah battery. From my testing it seemed to make a pretty good difference

  • @user-xu3yq5pb9f
    @user-xu3yq5pb9f Рік тому

    Will you Try the new Hercules cordless impact wrench torque test I really want to see how it does!!!

  • @justicecallander5525
    @justicecallander5525 Рік тому

    Hey man, I think the impact drivers should really be tested in different temperatures, for example, Milwaukee batteries will charge in colder temperatures than what dewault will, if I use a dewault in my frame of work(lots of 1/2 high torque work) the dewault will fall on its face for usability beside my Milwaukee. So when looking at a page for reviews I might find that I buy into a brand just to find out it doesn’t work when it’s cold, and I think for that reason it should always be a factor in the reviews. Or at least one big cold weather review

  • @Ender_Wiggin03
    @Ender_Wiggin03 Рік тому +3

    Yeah, really glad I got that DCF900.

    • @fakenamejones4254
      @fakenamejones4254 Рік тому

      I'm so jelly!

    • @jdogdiesel7242
      @jdogdiesel7242 Рік тому

      Same here! Been beating on it for about a month. It absolutely kills everything els in the shop up to the Milwaukee 1in drive extended anvil w/12ah pack. It may not beat it in reverse but anything that big 1in m18 hammers on the dewalt will rip off. And any of the impacts smaller than the 1in m18 it beats in forward an reverse.
      Id really like to see ttc test it out with the 9ah pack. I really think its a better battery than the 15ah due to the cells and discharge rates. And well its not 187lbs lol

  • @Knate1104
    @Knate1104 Рік тому

    This channel is great, I love the content! Do you think some of the slight differences internally (electronics, connections, etc.) would affect other aspects of the tool like longevity, reliability under heavy use, drops, water etc? While corporate greed is undeniable, I’m just wondering if there’s any other justifiable reason for the price hike other than the name.

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto Рік тому

      I love the longevity and the slight differences internally for the price. I'm just wondering if this channel is great and think some of the heavy? use? water corporate greeed

  • @G0ld3ncr0ss
    @G0ld3ncr0ss Рік тому

    Can you show a video switching over the craftsman hammer into the DeWalt to see if it gains

  • @c0c0asauce
    @c0c0asauce Рік тому

    I don't know if you have addressed this but do impacts vary as much as cars?
    For example 5 factory fresh 350 crate engines might vary 1-5% in power output. Nominal being a thing.

  • @marshallguerra1353
    @marshallguerra1353 Рік тому

    Great information

  • @Farmall450
    @Farmall450 Рік тому

    It seems to be leaps and bounds above the old brushed Craftsman V20 CMCF900 (350 ft lbs). Having both, the Craftsman is a real dog compared to my Mac Tools 899 clone, so maybe upgrading the truck gun (craftsman) makes more sense than upgrading the shop gun (Mac/DeWalt) in this instance (having lots of both batteries). I do have a 9ah Craftsman to try it with (good luck buying a 9ah DeWalt new for what you can get the 9ah Craftsman on eBay for). :D

  • @Xlaxsauce
    @Xlaxsauce Рік тому

    makes me wonder if they have maximized the weight of the anvil. Could you somehow add weight?

  • @Meowface.
    @Meowface. Рік тому

    Wonder how hard it would be to modify it to accept dewalt batteries
    We all use dewalt at our shop, for the convenience of there always being a battery and charger around when you need it
    Or an adaptor ?

  • @jeeper3220
    @jeeper3220 Рік тому

    I’m just curious if you plan on reviewing the flex with its new stacked lithium battery claiming 200% more power