Dr. Greger: Cocoa for Muscle & Mitochondrial Function - Fact or Fiction?

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  • @Physionic
    @Physionic  Місяць тому +32

    No amendments, currently.

    • @MrVizzle
      @MrVizzle Місяць тому

      Understood

    • @nicolatesla5786
      @nicolatesla5786 Місяць тому

      Hey I don't know your name that's cool. I'm a Myers-Briggs INTP I should have became a scientist long time ago hear it in the last year I've been investigating lifespan and healthspan Science and I stumbled across what is probably the world's record for the longest living male. The gentleman was being interviewed by TV reporter regarding his age. The interview started out with his memory and what he recalls in his life he remembers when the plane and the automobile came about. My assumption would be soon after he was born after the invention of the automobile and aircraft which obviously is the Model T and the Wright flyer. Based on my observation condition of his face he had no age spots no or hardly any wrinkles at all in a skin. He had no physical or neurological disability so you can get off the sofa just fine and walk to the kitchen showing the reporter what he's been eating for the last 110 years. So in addition to his vegan based diet, he's been consuming honey, chocolate, cinnamon and garlic. The next year he was interviewed he was in full spirit standing in front of his cake and responding to the reporters questions at a normal cognitive Cadence of a 45 year old. Eventually his heart gave out at the age of 116 years old😊

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree Місяць тому

      I'm assuming the cocoa used in the study was not processed with alkali? Most chocolate you buy at the store is processed with alkali. So you may not be getting any health benefits, unless you know what to look for.

    • @LowHangingFruitForest
      @LowHangingFruitForest Місяць тому

      Can you do a video on red meat?

    • @LowHangingFruitForest
      @LowHangingFruitForest Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelblacktreeraw cacao is what I consume.

  • @k.h.6991
    @k.h.6991 Місяць тому +49

    Glad to hear that Dr. Greger, while a bit optimistic, was basically correct on this one. Clearly, when there are only 3 small studies: the results should be taken with a grain of salt (or cocoa in this case).
    Still, as Dr. Greger might say: when we don't have any reason NOT to do something, we might as well add it to our regiment.
    It's clear that Dr. Greger's main message is to eat mostly (or only) whole plant foods. Tweaks like this one are only in there for optimization and spicing things up.

    • @eatanelkberger
      @eatanelkberger Місяць тому +9

      As for a reason not to eat cocoa, one might be the extremely high oxalate content.

    • @klojoify
      @klojoify Місяць тому +8

      Heavy metal contamination is also a very good reason to be careful with cacao

    • @eatanelkberger
      @eatanelkberger Місяць тому +5

      @@klojoify when one thinks about it, there are probably lots of concerns, like the heavy use of pesticides and herbicides when farming for cocoa.

    • @norediaisraelighodaro532
      @norediaisraelighodaro532 Місяць тому +5

      Dr Greger is usually right most of the times

    • @eatanelkberger
      @eatanelkberger Місяць тому

      There are over 800 chemical compounds om cocoa, and it's not wise to assume all of them are good for us.

  • @marc09969
    @marc09969 Місяць тому +39

    I used to drink a lot and didn't notice any improved functions, then I learned that most of it is contaminated by heavy metals, cadmium etc.

  • @adrienmd6146
    @adrienmd6146 Місяць тому +14

    Organic natural non-alkalized cocoa powder from Ivory Coast is my personal go-to in morning whey protein shakes. Plenty flavonols and way less heavy metals than in South American cocoa.

  • @JaneNewAuthor
    @JaneNewAuthor Місяць тому +9

    Cocoa has high levels of magnesium too. I've read that it's estimated that 75% of the population is magnesium deficient. Taking extra can't hurt.

    • @Surfer-727
      @Surfer-727 Місяць тому +1

      1/3 Of the U.S. eats a lot of junk food. ( AI ) AI says if your on a wholefoods diet ( eating real food 85% of the time ) you do not need to take a magnesium suplement. 3 squaers of 70% coco dark chocolate is not much magnesium, taking more than that can lead to heavy metal posining in your blood. Caffiene was not allowed in health food stores for the longest time, now they even have food laced with much added sugar. Nicholas Tesla said stay away from caffiene. I am taking a half dose of magesium glycinate a day until Physionic does a video on magnesium. I may or may not stick with 2 squares of 70% darkchocolate a day, I am sensative to caffiene.

    • @jefflittle8913
      @jefflittle8913 10 днів тому

      @@Surfer-727 "taking more than that leads to heavy metal posining in your blood." I have never heard of that. Are you talking about something similar to the rice arsenic story?
      "now they even have food laced with much added sugar" Yeah, sugar is not so bad that you have to talk about it with poison terms. "Nicholas Tesla said stay away from caffiene." He also didn't believe in the Neils Bohr model of the atom.

    • @Surfer-727
      @Surfer-727 10 днів тому

      @@jefflittle8913 Let's just say more that 2 squares of 70% cocao " can " lead to poisoning yourself over a period of time with the lead and cadmium it contains. Only deep fried food is worse than added sugars. Bohr's model of the atom was not entirely accurate in the light of modern quantum mechanics, it was a significant contribution that paved the way for further developments.

  • @dipdor1
    @dipdor1 Місяць тому +26

    What about the potentially high levels of heavy metals common in dark chocolate?

    • @billw6903
      @billw6903 Місяць тому

      See my post

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot Місяць тому +12

      Is it just me or does everything have high levels of heavy metals these days?

    • @zerotwo2436
      @zerotwo2436 Місяць тому

      dont eat this! very high amounts of heavy metals

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 Місяць тому

      ​@@zerotwo2436I buy brands tested for heavy metals and moulds like Seven Hills or Bryan Johnson Blueprint which contain high flavonol, but avoid average brands with no third party testing

    • @raraavis7782
      @raraavis7782 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@rayzerot
      Apparently in chocolate (as I understand it), it's not due to pollution, though. Most cacao simply grows in regions where Cadmium levels in the ground are high, because there was volcanic activity in the past. It just naturally ends up in the plant and is only a concern, if you eat a significant amount of dark chocolate every day.

  • @jayalanlife5926
    @jayalanlife5926 Місяць тому +47

    I don't need another channel, just keep doing what you are doing, thanks Nic

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +20

      Always good to get other opinions, not just mine. Just make sure they explain the data. :)

    • @tinyjungle_
      @tinyjungle_ Місяць тому +2

      You aint sciencing correctly

    • @user-ii7xc1ry3x
      @user-ii7xc1ry3x Місяць тому +1

      @@Physionic Agree. And that's why I love Physionic more by the day 🫂

    • @nicolatesla5786
      @nicolatesla5786 Місяць тому

      Question I know the health of the mitochondria is extremely important to the lifespan of the cell. Do you know and this is an interesting question, everyday apoptosis 50 million cells a second? Evidence extending the lifespan of the cell, would that show up in the form of stool deposits with a much lower Mass add size ?

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles Місяць тому

      @@tinyjungle_ You mean that a Greger Overstatement re-characterization of the preferred variables _must_ be applied for the science to be "correct"? 😁 Such a process is, at a minimum, certainly necessary for any diet-war channel to be viable, it would seem.

  • @johnely5050
    @johnely5050 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for a very informative video.

  • @matthewsouthwell
    @matthewsouthwell Місяць тому +71

    You and Nutrition Made Simple are the only trustworthy sources on UA-cam. No agenda or bias, just facts. Thanks for your service.

    • @HidingFromFate
      @HidingFromFate Місяць тому +9

      Agreed, however personally, I would add Simon Hill to form my Trinity of nutritional guidance.

    • @matthewsouthwell
      @matthewsouthwell Місяць тому +7

      Yes, how could I forget The Proof!

    •  Місяць тому +3

      What is Gregers agenda according to you?

    • @jp7357
      @jp7357 Місяць тому

      Yup - I'd also add Gabrielle Lyon, Simon Hill, Rhonda Patrick, and "conquer aging or die trying"

    • @simonround2439
      @simonround2439 Місяць тому +2

      @matthewsouthwell He wants you to become a vegan.

  • @lizardfirefighter110
    @lizardfirefighter110 Місяць тому +11

    Soo, does the content of Lead
    and Cadmium nullify the benefits of Cacao?

    • @jaybarker3718
      @jaybarker3718 Місяць тому +1

      Or oxalates!

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      taking chlorophyll rich plants (chlorella or spirulina) to chelates the heavy metals + milk nullify the negative effects of oxalates (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12700095/) and you are good to go

    • @myscreen2urs
      @myscreen2urs Місяць тому

      LEAD?!😳 Surely not

  • @doghashisday4612
    @doghashisday4612 Місяць тому +9

    Great analysis as usual! After participating in a Mayan cacao ceremony, i ve been takinging about 5 traditional cocao drinks a weeks... little or no sugar more cacao, canela/ cardamomo ... dark, rich, bitter... really envigorating

    • @doghashisday4612
      @doghashisday4612 Місяць тому

      @@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x i m in central Am at the moment. An Aztec king was reported to drink a gallon a day. Green teas seem to be linked to several positive outcomes

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 Місяць тому

      ​@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-xI definitely feel with 100 percent cacao less muscle aching next day and more energy and it improves mood while drinking it

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      @@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x There are the only ones lol. And cocoa might be the best one. Every time I take 20 g or more of 90% Cacao i get this gut feeling like if i was in love with someone.

  • @Hendrixski
    @Hendrixski Місяць тому +6

    There was a study released today about fish oil. It's all over the news and it's confusing. Could you cover it and help me figure out if a spoonful of cod liver oil is ok to take or not?

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +3

      Can you send it to me? Via email. UA-cam auto deletes many links.

  • @thomascorbett2936
    @thomascorbett2936 Місяць тому +18

    Extremely smart young man with good information .

    • @vvictorable
      @vvictorable Місяць тому

      How do you know if he's right? UA-cam is full of people who are saying how bad are the others and they have the absolute true!
      It's good to criticise but don't take all he says for granted.

  • @ioGLNX
    @ioGLNX Місяць тому +3

    What is important is Epicatechin ..which improves Follistatin levels this is the counterpart of Myostatin (muscle breakdown)

  • @cptpylot
    @cptpylot Місяць тому +1

    Another great video! Could you please cover apple cider vinegar and weight loss? There are a ton of videos about it but you're really the only trustworthy source.

  • @2coryman
    @2coryman Місяць тому +2

    Dr Greger is too positive ❤

  • @2twentysix
    @2twentysix Місяць тому +2

    Love the nerd humour and your continued plight to uncover the broccoli in the world of nutrition 🥦🙏

    • @ReneeRin-mk5fc
      @ReneeRin-mk5fc Місяць тому

      Is broccoli code for marijuana here too?

  • @danmarquez3971
    @danmarquez3971 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for the detailed analysis! Holy Moley. My conclusion is that it won't hurt adding a little cocoa here and there if one craves it. (Cravings is another fascinating topic.) Given your wisdom, I would love to hear your thoughts on reducing glycolytic fiber count in those with long COVID. There are many snake oils, I think, but it will take time to sort out.

  • @jamilaad5387
    @jamilaad5387 Місяць тому

    Congratulations for you Smartness and intelligence 👍

  • @MikeG-js1jt
    @MikeG-js1jt Місяць тому +1

    I must be in a strange mood, as your rendition of the "up and Go" dance elicited an audible chuckle from me.

  • @ulastanistanbul
    @ulastanistanbul Місяць тому +2

    I like your video effects. Timely and entertaining. Please keep up the great work 🙏

  • @Hendrixski
    @Hendrixski Місяць тому +1

    I eat 100% cacao dark chocolate for breakfast every morning - paired with a fruit. Sometimes as a bar sometimes as powder. I didn’t know it could have benefits beyond helping me meet my nutritional minimums every day. Good to know. Tha ks for the video.

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 Місяць тому +1

      I definitely feel better less aching next day more energy and better mood instantly with 1000 percent cacao, however make sure it's tested for heavy metals mould etc your brand . Bryan Johnson Blueprint has tested one or Seven Hills

  • @billw6903
    @billw6903 Місяць тому +1

    I use terrasoul cocoa nibs with walnuts or sprouted pumpkin seeds and yogurt. This is best choice for less lead and yogurt to help with oxylates

  • @larrygarms7230
    @larrygarms7230 Місяць тому +1

    Great for high blood pressure too.

  • @SZvenM
    @SZvenM Місяць тому +8

    Interesting topic. Never heard of cocoa as a health supplement before

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +11

      More to come soon

    • @paraworth
      @paraworth Місяць тому

      Where have you been ?

    • @SZvenM
      @SZvenM Місяць тому +3

      @@paraworth Not in the "cocoa-is-a-health-supplement"-clubhouse, apparently.

    • @nicolatesla5786
      @nicolatesla5786 Місяць тому

      ​@@Physionicyoutube 110 year old vegan it's a Part of his diet.

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 Місяць тому

      ​@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-xI definitely feel better with 100 percent cacao less muscle aching more energy next day and instant mood lift while drinking it. Just make sure it's tested for heavy metals mould like Seven Hills or Bryan Johnson brand

  • @_negentropy_
    @_negentropy_ Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Nic! I choose to consume raw cacao bc I love chocolate but I was chuffed to see neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Mosconi recommending it for aging cognitive and heart health. Theobromine, I think, is the hero of that story? Nice to know it might possibly maybe improve muscle functions too.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      Theobromine is what causes the vascular effect according to what i read. But the mitochondrial biogenesis effect seems to be induced by the (-)-Epicatechin

  • @jp7357
    @jp7357 Місяць тому +2

    just want to say i LOVE being an “insider” thanks Nic.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks! Hoping to improve it even further starting in a couple of months... :-)

  • @seanm8715
    @seanm8715 Місяць тому +22

    Great video! Please cover more of Dr. Gregors content in the future! It is great to have multiple perspectives

    • @narbs8944
      @narbs8944 Місяць тому

      Gregor literally has literally edited study results and deleted lines that disagree with his biases in his videos, he might be right on this one thing but he is a dangerous pseudo scientist. Look up what Avi Bitterman (an actually sane vegan) has written

    • @nrbeck1
      @nrbeck1 Місяць тому +1

      Like a lot of people, Gregor is neither entirely right nor entirely wrong. I like his daily dozen checklist. It seems like a great way to get people eating more whole foods. It is largely how I eat anyway, except I have to add a piss ton of protein. As an endurance athelte, I flew over to this video... I nerd out over mitochondria. Too bad cocoa isn't better. I wonder if cacao nibs would be good? Probably another thing in the "can't hurt, doesn't do much" column.

  • @TroyDowVanZandt
    @TroyDowVanZandt Місяць тому +3

    I was hoping Meneer Verhoeven was going to explain the the Dutching process in greater detail. ;)

  • @childofaether8733
    @childofaether8733 Місяць тому +3

    Brian Johnson is also unreasonably big on cocoa powder despite the limited evidence.

    • @HidingFromFate
      @HidingFromFate Місяць тому

      You probably meant cacao powder, as I highly doubt Johnson would consume cocoa power. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому +3

      @@HidingFromFate Nope he consume and sell his own cocoa Powder lol

    • @HidingFromFate
      @HidingFromFate 27 днів тому

      ​@@tamer6893ok, I sit corrected. Thanks.

  • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
    @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Місяць тому +1

    Dutched or unDutched cocoa powder? I didn't grasp which side you came down on. Thank you for this information.

  • @harold18659
    @harold18659 Місяць тому +1

    I drank locally made cocoa powder for about 4 months for PAD with no improvement. Nothing i tried at the time worked until my friend Natto and Nattokinase came along. :)

  • @karrskarr
    @karrskarr Місяць тому +5

    Another phenom nom nom breakdown of stats! At my age the concern is the high oxalates of cacao, as with other plant groups that are heavily laden, and ability to reduce the overall concentration in our bodies. Thank you for your expertise, and looking forward to more of these informative narratives! Respect!

    • @KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH
      @KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for this comment. I just overdosed on a large “”healthy” brownie last night after a late meal and woke up with what felt like sand in my eyes and pain in my big toes. This helped me piece together that it could be caused by oxalates!

    • @karrskarr
      @karrskarr Місяць тому

      @@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH For an interesting analysis on oxalates google Sally Norton :P

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Місяць тому

      Beet greens tried to keel me a couple years ago. Almost succeeded...

    • @VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
      @VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans Місяць тому +1

      Reduce the overall concentration of what?

    • @karrskarr
      @karrskarr Місяць тому

      @@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans 'Oxalates' that are found in vegetables They are sharp crystals that forms a variety of salts, for example sodium oxalate, and the is main cause of kidney stones. worth googling oxalates for exact data!

  • @1armmanny
    @1armmanny Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for all you do

  • @petercarsten2802
    @petercarsten2802 Місяць тому +2

    Is it possible the benefits could be due to stearic acid which is high in cocoa butter and has been shown to increase mitochondria? I would love for you to do a video on stearic acid.

  • @mhozayien
    @mhozayien Місяць тому +1

    Great content as ever. Thanks you, please can you go over this new study about how fish oil can increase the risk of CVD in healthy people, really would like to hear your opinion on it as I'm not sure now whether to take it or not, thanks.

    • @swampkatbrain
      @swampkatbrain Місяць тому +2

      In a reply to an earlier comment, he suggested he'd be talking about this study next week.

    • @mhozayien
      @mhozayien Місяць тому

      @@swampkatbrain ok great thanks

  • @Pissarrio
    @Pissarrio Місяць тому +1

    Hi, any opinion about METHYLENE BLUE? i have been hearing a lot about it and not sure if i trust what i am hearing or reading. but i do trust your analysis. Would you do a video on this?

  • @BlahBlahPoop617
    @BlahBlahPoop617 Місяць тому +1

    I consume cacao powder every day and have for many many many years. I am a beast in the gym so I wonder if it had any effect. Who knows but I love chocolate so I will keep consuming away!

  • @1969spp
    @1969spp Місяць тому +3

    I've read that the oxalate content of cocoa is relatively high. How might this factor change the energy balance? Really love your work. Strongly considering a paid subscription.

    • @danacamp5437
      @danacamp5437 Місяць тому +1

      It's really high and VERY bioavailable. If you have any oxalate issues cocoa should be limited.

    • @1969spp
      @1969spp Місяць тому

      @@danacamp5437 Thanks. I need to do more research. I don't know anything about the symptoms of oxalate toxicity.

  • @Charlie-Oooooo
    @Charlie-Oooooo Місяць тому +2

    By 'natural unfiltered cocoa' [powder] do you mean Cacao powder?

  • @5kribbles
    @5kribbles Місяць тому +1

    Did you see the study which claims "Cocoa Supplementation Inhibits Mitochondrial Biogenisis Triggered by Exercise", by Garcia-Merino et al? They performed a randomised controlled trial with control/low/high dose with both exercise and none and measured both performance and biogenesis. Does it suggest cocoa supplementation might be good for in-season recovery, but detrimental to training adaptation.

  • @NabilEsk
    @NabilEsk Місяць тому +1

    Cocoa is apparently susceptible to mycotoxins, similar to aflotoxins usually found in peanuts.

  • @aheumedivirtoXD
    @aheumedivirtoXD Місяць тому +3

    omg, my 2 favourite health science legends in one video, what a rush of dopamine!
    not watched yet so i'll be hoping to hear you say "you don't know until you... put it to the test!"

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot Місяць тому +3

      My favorites too! I love when people say that Dr. Greger doesn't do his research. It's like... his first book had 113 pages of citations. You don't get much more research than that. At least until his second and third books where he included even more research and citations! He may not be right about everything but he's absolutely got the bulk of the evidence backing him

    • @aheumedivirtoXD
      @aheumedivirtoXD Місяць тому

      @@rayzerot literally people that have never watched a single of his videos lol only random podcasts maybe

  • @DrAJ_LatinAmerica
    @DrAJ_LatinAmerica Місяць тому

    Interesting. I remain sceptical for any short term, non controlled (no lock and key) study. Variations in diets and probably medications.

  • @oolala53
    @oolala53 Місяць тому

    I’ve been using natural cocoa powder for years. I don’t know if it’s a tablespoon a day I think sometimes it’s more sometimes less. I have no idea if it’s made the changes that he sites. It certainly hasn’t stopped the progression of arthritis. I hope Dr. Gregor is also telling people to move more and lift weight! not that people will listen. I knew I should be doing it for the last 50 years, but it was extremely sporadic and now I’m facing a bit of a price. And on that note, I’m gonna go do some exercise.

  • @i3looi2
    @i3looi2 Місяць тому

    My daily combo is AG1 scoop + protein scoop + raw coco powder scoop in the morning. Just add water.

  • @bonniepoole1095
    @bonniepoole1095 Місяць тому +1

    Well done!

  • @mark-c802
    @mark-c802 Місяць тому +1

    is your cox enzyme the copper dependent cytochrome c oxidase?...even flavinol rich, organic raw cacao powder varies in benefit depending on heavy metal content and processing techniques...i still use it daily without ill effects

  • @renelozano2832
    @renelozano2832 Місяць тому +2

    I thought that Coco or Cacao Inhibited Myostatin, which increased muscle mass?

  • @Monster_Mover_Stocks
    @Monster_Mover_Stocks Місяць тому +4

    I've been consuming 1 to 2 tablespoons of raw cacao powder everyday for some time now. The only problem is, it causes anal leakage. I'm 62 with anal leakage, but low blood pressure. Quite the tradeoff.

  • @chasingshangrila
    @chasingshangrila Місяць тому +2

    Nic is the best! Love the knowledge and sarcasm.

  • @113zorba
    @113zorba Місяць тому +1

    another great video.

  • @dusan78
    @dusan78 Місяць тому +2

    I thought its the cacao powder that is the raw good stuff with all the flavonoids and benefits as its not roasted and processed where as the cocoa is roasted and processed and thus has a lower benefit profile.

  • @swites
    @swites 23 дні тому

    I hope its right because I love my normal cocoa!

  • @SG-4u
    @SG-4u Місяць тому +8

    I was eating sooo much dark chocolate and thinking it was healthy for me before I learned how much cadmium and lead it contains. Too bad we can’t have healthy things like chocolate and fish without poisoning them with environmental pollution.

  • @t2p5g4
    @t2p5g4 Місяць тому +2

    One issue that I would like clarification on is that the results were shown with undutched cocoa powder. How do we make sure that we are consuming the undutched substance.

  • @Everest_Climber
    @Everest_Climber Місяць тому +6

    My partner and I are both 62yo. We both workout using the same exercise equipment. Our diets are very similar apart from one major difference - I consume 40gms unalkalized cocoa powder each day. I have seen far greater muscular development and can exercise at a higher intensity. The cocoa is my only sinful pleasure.

    • @victorloya1590
      @victorloya1590 11 днів тому

      unless your gym partner is your identical twin , well ... u know

  • @Handlethis6513
    @Handlethis6513 Місяць тому +14

    Protein shake with instant coffee and cocoa powder.💪

    • @kamanashisroy
      @kamanashisroy Місяць тому +2

      minus the sugar.

    • @miloradvlaovic
      @miloradvlaovic Місяць тому

      @@kamanashisroy sewer water would taste better than that though.

    • @Handlethis6513
      @Handlethis6513 Місяць тому

      @@miloradvlaovic
      No. It’s actually good.
      I drink one everyday at lunch.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      Really hope that your protein shake is 100% natural, would be weird to mix a flavored protein shake with coffee and cocoa.

    • @Handlethis6513
      @Handlethis6513 Місяць тому

      @@tamer6893 😂

  • @nazarakopyantc514
    @nazarakopyantc514 Місяць тому

    Also cocoa is high in minerals, saturated and mono saturated fats and protein which might be slightly advantageous for muscle growth and testosterone if consumed regularly

  • @begelston
    @begelston Місяць тому +2

    Any concerns about cadmium levels in cocoa?

  • @williamhenry3337
    @williamhenry3337 Місяць тому +1

    Even if it only has a slight chance of moving the needle in a positive direction why not do it? Thanks for the great podcast.

  • @kamanashisroy
    @kamanashisroy Місяць тому

    Does it reduce the benefit of exercise/fasting ? What about Nrf2 and inflammation ?

  • @ritamargherita
    @ritamargherita Місяць тому +6

    First to comment? That's very exciting! Gotta eat some chocolate to celebrate! 🎉

  • @nosretep1960
    @nosretep1960 Місяць тому

    We all know everything on the interwebs is as truthful as politicians. A grain of truth... Perhaps. TX. Hadn't seen this advertisement for Hershey and Nestle.

  • @richarddenton4364
    @richarddenton4364 Місяць тому +1

    Here’s a question not on this topic. Would you consider researching studies on hyper absorbers of saturated fats? Particularly in relation to a 3/4 and 4/4 alleles. Thanks

  • @Justanotherrando-ny3vr
    @Justanotherrando-ny3vr Місяць тому +1

    Hi physionic, off topic. Do you look at supplement brands and see if the things they are boasting about are as good as they make it out to be?
    I ask this because there is a brand called "pureway-c" who boasts about there vitamin c being better than just normal vitamin c from other supplements and (I believe)actual food.

  • @theancientsancients1769
    @theancientsancients1769 Місяць тому +2

    I have long COVID and whenever i take 100 percent cacao i definitely feel less muscle aching the next day and more energy ! My mood improves too. Definitely there is something to cocoa!

  • @littlevoice_11
    @littlevoice_11 Місяць тому +2

    We can rely on Physionics to spill the cacao beans

  • @mballer
    @mballer Місяць тому

    There are also studies on cocoa and eyesight.
    How might they be related?

  • @TheBroSplit
    @TheBroSplit Місяць тому

    Cocovia is what I take. I can feel the blood flow an hour or so.after taking two capsules

  • @toddhostetler6552
    @toddhostetler6552 Місяць тому

    The issue with hucksters is they make it sound like you can just eat some chocolate, and you will improve. Of course, that’s not what the study outcomes shows. Good on you for producing this content.

  • @BigJDinSC
    @BigJDinSC Місяць тому +2

    Recently stumbled across your channel (don’t worry; I was able to regain my balance before I fell).
    As a career trainer (CSCS) and life-time science and research nerd, I am REALLY enjoying your channel. Thanks for the bingeable content 👍.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks, JD - welcome aboard. :)

  • @SaptuHIT
    @SaptuHIT 22 дні тому

    Hi physionic , i have certain muscle , neuromuscular disease . Widespread muscle wasting ( still continuing) with fasiculation for more than 8 years but fully active , doctors thought MND/ ALS , but normal emg , ultrasound. Then thought hirayama disease . But clear MRI. But i have some kind of metabolic syndrome since early adulthood like NAFLD , high bp, high TG, Insulin resistance , black patches in neck but normal body mass . And low energy ,Do you jnow any rare mitochondrial disease which can present like this ? I' m from India 33 years of age .

  • @stevegerber88
    @stevegerber88 28 днів тому

    Would be interested on your take of the studies that show chocolate consumed twice a day will double stem cell production

  • @beautifulrose8619
    @beautifulrose8619 Місяць тому

    I have been shopping and trying to find natural, unfiltered cocoa. No brands says unfiltered. Is there another term used for unfiltered?

  • @laurentiurudeanu4102
    @laurentiurudeanu4102 Місяць тому

    Any comments on the claimed increase in stem cells associated with cocoa consumption ? There was a recent study on that. Thanks.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      do you have the link of the study please ?

  • @snake10566
    @snake10566 Місяць тому +4

    If I could get cocoa without heavy metals, that would be great.

    • @richa1147
      @richa1147 Місяць тому

      100% raw cacao??

    • @PhoxHole117
      @PhoxHole117 Місяць тому +1

      Bryan johnson blueprint cocoa

    • @ChokedByHalo1
      @ChokedByHalo1 Місяць тому +1

      @@richa1147 cocoa saps the heavy metals from the ground. Your 100% stuff has it aswell if the ground is contaminated in any way.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      just take chlorophyll rich plants like chlorella or spirulina to chelates the heavy metals of your body and problem solved

  • @kamanashisroy
    @kamanashisroy Місяць тому +1

    Talking about the mitochondrial shape/morphology, I wonder how AI could detect mitochondrial-health just by looking at the image of the biopsy/blood.

  • @zealman79
    @zealman79 Місяць тому +1

    Up and Go is a brand of flavoured milk in New Zealand.
    true story

  • @loganwolv3393
    @loganwolv3393 Місяць тому

    Despite all of this, cocoa is still one of the go to foods that actually stand out. It's one of the few fruits that has both theobromine and caffeine in it, although caffeine is in not so significant ammounts, but honestly it does give me a small boost in energy after i drink it so i think the ammounts of theobromine are actually significant.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      and phenethylamines too, which explain the aphrodisiac and "high" effect it gives, especially when you take high dose like 50 g of dark 90% chocolate 😂

  • @janalderton8644
    @janalderton8644 Місяць тому

    Consumer Labs had a wide range of chocolate products tested for heavy metals and flavonols. Endangered Species Extreme Dark Chocolate is very low in heavy metals as is the supplement CocoaVia. The mycotoxin question is important.

  • @RXP91
    @RXP91 Місяць тому +5

    Ninja creami, tbsp cocoa, tbsp cashews, cup bluberries, cup soy milk, 1/4tsp vanilla, 6 dates. Makes the most amazing ice cream that’s healthy

    • @kaoskronostyche9939
      @kaoskronostyche9939 Місяць тому

      Soy milk should not be ingested by anyone other than post-menopausal women.
      Unless you want to be a soy-boy ...

  • @daleval2182
    @daleval2182 Місяць тому

    The conference that Dr Greggor was at, Funded by Nestle right lol

  • @ericmoore5408
    @ericmoore5408 Місяць тому +2

    Isnt this do to the high Epicatechin content?

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому +1

      Yes it does according to studies

  • @big5astra
    @big5astra Місяць тому +4

    And while on the subject of cocoa, cocoa contans quite a bit of oxalates. Nic, could you do a video on oxalates and clarify whether oxalates are a "thing" or whether oxalate intake should largely be ignored.

    • @ExplodingPsyche
      @ExplodingPsyche Місяць тому

      Yes, I would love to see him do a video on this. I consume a lot of oxalate containing greens and although I don't seem to have any issues from it, I do have a little concern after all the oxalate fearmongering in recent years.

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      Just drink milk and problem solved
      pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12700095/

  • @159awi
    @159awi Місяць тому

    Well, coco gives me zits. I guess I'm doomed according to Dr Gregor. But from what you said, there's hope!

  • @farhat5325
    @farhat5325 Місяць тому +7

    Cover dr gundry, please

  • @joshy2joshy
    @joshy2joshy Місяць тому

    I've been consuming cocoa powder and cacao nibs for a few years. I typically consume about 10g a day. Considering that it highly caloric, I consider it at the minimal, a neutral food that at least doesn't cause any harm, especially when compared to processed chocolate. Just because something doesn't have a clear positive effect, would it be reasonable to compare it to other foods that do have a negative impact, and would it then be fair to say it a positive step to switch to?

    • @joshy2joshy
      @joshy2joshy Місяць тому

      Highly calorically dense* but micronutrientally packed also

  • @Tara-zq3il
    @Tara-zq3il Місяць тому

    I'm 70yrs and recently bought a tin of Starbucks coffee ...which is gorgeous...but my heart sank because it probably hasn't got any flavanoids

  • @stewartedgington8164
    @stewartedgington8164 Місяць тому +1

    Your comments about Dr Gregor are very appropriate in my opinion. He does become enthusiastic about weak evidence when it appears solid that there is no harm. Oh and this from one who greatly admires his work.

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 Місяць тому +1

      I have long COVID and whenever i take 100 percent cacao i definitely feel less muscle aching the next day and more energy ! My mood improves too. Definitely there is something to cocoa!

  • @jp7357
    @jp7357 Місяць тому +6

    pheeew … i commented on the insider chat that im 66yo been taking quite expensive cocoa via powder for 6 years (after reading how not to die) and was thinking that you’d conclude id been wasting my $45/month. this months just arrived .. happy days

    • @Santa-ny1yp
      @Santa-ny1yp Місяць тому +2

      There are considerably more effective supplements that won't cost you $45 a month combined. Creatine, taurine, vit d3 and k2, magnesium, omega 3s, b12. I have included the most common deficiencies with the vitamins.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +6

      Have more coming on cocoa, Jon :)

    • @unou12die
      @unou12die Місяць тому

      Don't forget iodine!

    • @Cas3620
      @Cas3620 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Santa-ny1ypGood point if you price them separate but together they cost more than 45 for the good brands. I take all of those FYI. 😊

    • @jp7357
      @jp7357 Місяць тому +3

      @@unou12die 2 drop / day in my tea … but probably not needed now as i added fish to my plant based diet.

  • @BenOgorek
    @BenOgorek Місяць тому +2

    There were plenty of significant effects. They’re not all significant, but we don’t accept the null, we only fail to reject it. Also I see very small sample sizes. Just wondering why the tone is so negative when there appears to be some cool stuff here.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  Місяць тому +2

      It's unfortunate you felt the tone was overly negative. I think I was fair - I agreed with Dr. Greger on most things, I also said I learned from him. I also acknowledged that the points he didn't discuss (which some of them were positive and in defense of his argument) were likely because of the short video duration. I gotta say, I simply don't see where I was negative other than disagreeing (if you can call that 'negative') on the mitochondrial function aspect, and as a mitochondrial researcher for 10 years, I think I'm allowed to maybe speak on an area I know much more on than even he does.
      I'd be happy to go into the sample size argument - for example, the first study showed significant effects in many aspects, and I mentioned as much, to Dr. Greger's credit. The second and third study found some significant effects in secondary outcomes, but also other outcomes didn't even sniff significance, so am I supposed to claim that for one set of secondary outcomes the sample size was sufficient, but for the other set of related secondary outcomes the sample size suddenly becomes insufficient although the p-value doesn't even get close to signficiant?
      I'll also add that these assays usually only need a few samples, but what do I know? I've only done them myself. 😋
      So, I disagree with your assessment I was being overly negative or unfair.

    • @Jeffs60
      @Jeffs60 Місяць тому +3

      @@Physionic Greger has no license or board certification in anything as he was never able to complete his residency so he has no life experience in anything as he never saw one patient. He has no long term track record in anything. Would you get dental work done by someone who had no license and no experience in anything who sells books that are accredited by nothing since they are loaded with errors?

  • @anatta467
    @anatta467 Місяць тому +1

    polyphenols are magical

  • @JSWahrani
    @JSWahrani Місяць тому

    Thanks so much for this interesting and useful information. Somehow just about every other commentator seems to be jumping on the “heavy metals” trend, which I find quite amusing. So maybe you could join the band wagon and do a video on the risk of developing metallic cells please? Maybe BHP Billiton will agree to fund your research 😃

  • @davidford8539
    @davidford8539 Місяць тому

    Any translation betweeen cocoa powder and dark chocolate?

  • @NN-mg3mo
    @NN-mg3mo Місяць тому +5

    what about the amount of oxalates in cocoa or the heavy metals?

  • @CandyGirl44
    @CandyGirl44 Місяць тому

    I find I cant sleep after having cacoa, does it have caffeine?

  • @myscreen2urs
    @myscreen2urs Місяць тому

    There needs to be a study find in mega does. I drink a lot more then 5 grams of pure cocoa each night

  • @azdhan
    @azdhan Місяць тому +1

    Interesting. I recently saw a Dr G’s You Tube video where he stated that kimchi causes hpyroli. You can tell from the comments on that video that it gave people quite a s*it scare. Any many stating they would be trashing their kimchi and would never ever eat kimchi or sauerkraut. The main issue with his conclusion was its total reliance on population studies where people were consuming extremely high amounts and it fails to consider other confounding variables that were not not isolated and that may have had a major or even larger contributing effect. Population studies as far as hierarchy of evidence and research goes are some of the worst. With all due respect to Dr G I find that sometimes he engages in too much fear mongering without carefully looking at the totality of evidence, hierarchy of evidence, and converging lines of evidence

  • @znojnyj
    @znojnyj Місяць тому

    Was just wondering when (not really if) I'm gonna order the next bag of cocoa powder
    Guess I'm doing it rn xD
    PS Hot chocolate [so cocoa powder + water] is pretty poggers if you add date syrup, cassia and strawberries into it ;-P

    • @tamer6893
      @tamer6893 Місяць тому

      Nah, Milk + cocoa powder only is yummy and > all