Neuromancer is my favorite book of all time. Shout out to one of my high school teachers for picking it out and handing it to me one day after class. I didn't read it till years later and it's been in my waking thoughts ever since.
There is also a card game called In Android: Netrunner. One of the best card games ever created, in my opinion. In it one person takes the role of a hacker intent on revealing the corruption within big business (called the Runner), and the other person plays the mega-corporation itself, which is trying to protect its assets and stop the hacker from breaking in. The gameworld is based heavily on Cyberpunk, in particular William Gibson's Neuromancer, and borrows it's themes and terminology directly from the book (jack in/out, run, ICE, ice breaker). The game has been discontinued but is currently being kept alive through dedication of avid fans.
Snow Crash was my first cyberpunk novel and still a huge favorite, then I read Neuromancer it's amazing *nice shots of 12 Monkeys, that's a great movie
Thanks so much for shouting out Snow Crash! It was not on my radar and I just checked it out. So glad someone latched onto the 12 monkeys, can't say how much pleasure it brought me to finally be able to include it in one of my videos haha
Also, let us not forget that the giant supercomputer in the 1995 magnum opus Hackers was literally an homage to the man himself, being called "the Gibson."
I think alot of us will feel the same haha. Tbh I don't know if I've watched a single Apple TV show, hopefully they are decent quality? But yea would be great to finally get a good show in the setting
What a coincidence, I just finished reading Neuromancer (for the first time) a few days ago and am now reading Count Zero. Gibson’s writing style reminds me of Raymond Chandler; it’s like an old noir thriller from the 1940’s but set in a not too distant future.
One mistake everyone makes. Even this video makes. Night city is only the small port city in Chiba. The big high tech city everyone thinks about when they think of cyberpunk is the Sprawl in the former United States that the later part of the book takes place in. Night city is only in the beginning of the novel and not to be confused with Night city from the cyberpunk table top game and video game
Nice video. I love your series and how you explore these forgotten corridors and passages like a cultural warehouse for storing paradigm shifts. Taking apart the fundamental aspects of why something is nostalgic in the first place or comparing the medium with other similar artworks. Just like I'm about to do, you should check out Dark City if you love nior and cyberpunk, friend! Keep the videos coming, subbed immediately.
Hey thanks so much for the kind words! I agree, it's important to stop and appreciate the full stories of some of our past media to understand how it influences culture today. I just did a quick research of Dark City and it looks so cool! I'm 100% going to watch it. Thanks so much for the sub btw!
@@exitsexamined No problem, brother. I literally had an idea for a channel like this a long time ago, but you've taken it to another level! I bet it will grow fast because people love vaporwave aesthetic (maybe you could do a video on that?) and retro stuff like dead shopping malls because it allows us to put on those rose tinted glasses, if only temporarily. Glad you're gonna watch Dark City, thought it might be up your alley!
As much as I love high fantasy, Sci-fi will always be my first love. Actually got introduced to Neuromancer very late, when I started playing the Shadowrun games
That's awesome you got into from Shadowrun, I feel like recently a ton of people get into from Cyberpunk (and nothing wrong with that) What other sci-fi are you into? Looking for more sci-fi series to do for the channel!
Mmm, I guess Id have to say the original Fallouts. At the time I was also really into another game, Arcanum: Of Steamworks & magic Obscura but thats steampunk 😅
Great video. Even though i didn't really care for the book, i absolutely agree at how visionary, even prophetic, if you will, this novel is. Influencing generations of story tellers.
Hey thank you so much for the kind words and watching the video. It is crazy just the sheer amount of science fiction has been written and out of all it Gibson was probably one of the most accurate in predicting things. Let's just hope he's not right about AI lol
@@exitsexamined for sure! Seriously though, I actually worry just a pinch about all the AI engines coming out that are by so many developers, that one of 'em will eventually become self aware. Seriously, sci-fi literature has been uncannily accurate about so much. Maybe it's a time loop, like the AI sends itself back in time to direct things to bring itself into being. So if there was no AI, then it can't go back in time to create itself, so it gets stuck going around and around!🤯😨 Skynet is real, yo!!!
Nice video. I read Neuromancer recently and adored it. I really enjoyed Case and Molly as characters, didn’t find them one dimensional at all. And of course the plot and themes and prose and worldbuilding are top notch. I’m interested to see what the show will look like.
Thanks so much! I actually felt the exact same way and had no compliments about the characters. Really enjoyed how so much of their stories were left up to the imagination. Did you read the other books? Molly's story gets fleshed out a bit more
@@exitsexamined Not yet! Though I just ordered Count Zero the other day so I’m hoping to get back to the world of the Sprawl soon. I can’t wait to see what Molly gets up to in Mona Lisa Overdrive.
It was hard for me to read neuromancer because how O.G. it was, like driving an classic car. I never finished Neuromancer, but i did read the other two books; *Count Zero* and *Mona Lisa Overdrive* But my go-to book by Gibson wasn't even his other books, but the short story *The Gernsback Continuum* now that man me think and her understood retrofuturism to a Tee, made me think
Idoru fits in the sprawl without actually being a sprawl book. That would have been a great one to adapt early as the AI in it is a virtual idol (a vocaloid) and the book came out 11 years before Hatsune Miku debuted. At the time the book came out a virtual idol was Lynn Minmay or Kyoko Date an animated cartoon much like the Gorillaz but the Idol in this story is a semi independent entity on track for a full awakening. It is part of the Bridge trilogy that came after the sprawl series and the Bridge trilogy's themes then lead to the Jackpot Trilogy. The Bridge trilogy focuses on the race to corporate control of cyberspace and emerging tech and lays the groundwork for the world of the sprawl. The Bridge btw refers to the damaged San Fransisco to Oakland bridge and is the reason the loTek's lived on a bridge in the movie "Johnny Mnemonic" instead of on domes and why people in the videos go there to buy tech. On a side note the Bigend trilogy is worth a look as well though it is the farthest from the sprawl world and set in 1992.
It is quite interesting if AppleTV will adapt the book into a series. Even though they made many changes, I think they did a great job with adapting Asimovs The Foundation into a series. I thought the quality and acting were quite good. So I have some expectations for this adaptation as well regarding the quality of the series they will produce 🤔
Good to hear Apple seems to do a generally pretty good job. I think to fit it into a TV series they would have to make a good amount of changes to this one too. We can just cross our fingers and hope
I read this book cover to cover and do not understand why it’s such a big deal. Not trying to troll I’m actually curious! Maybe I had to go in with a more philosophical mindset
Same with Burning Chrome! But those were written before Neuromancer - in a way Neuromancer is a tie-in to Burning Chrome I guess if you look at like that haha
It's OK to bounce off some things - it's not for everyone. Maybe if you try to pick it up again at another point in your life it might connect with you, maybe not! What other types of books are you into?
You seem to be giving too much credit to 80s movies and not enough to actual authors and publications where it started. No mention of New Worlds magazine for example even though it is the focal point of new wave scifi and what would become know as cyberpunk. You seem to always jump into subjects in the middle and ignore any info before the mid 80's. Gibson is definitely the biggest name in the game and our definition of cyberpunk has been consolidated by his sprawl series but the history doesn't start with him and Ridley Scott.
I would agree with you, I don't think everything can or should be made about the franchise! I view this channel not as arguing for franchise but rather exploring the history and stories of incredible media from the past. This does involve looking at the future of these series as well and seeing if there's anything there but the main point is - remembering and celebrating them.
What a strange world we live in were a mega corporation like Apple would develop an adaptation of a novel against mega corporations.
Capitalism subsumes all.
Neuromancer is my favorite book of all time. Shout out to one of my high school teachers for picking it out and handing it to me one day after class. I didn't read it till years later and it's been in my waking thoughts ever since.
Wow, so much respect to that teacher. Wish I had it on my reading list in high school. Did you get a chance to check out the rest of the trilogy?
Gibson literally typed the book on an old school typewriter... He predicted cyberpunk and so far his predictions are coming true
I'd love to see a modern interview with him and his take on how cyberpunk as a whole has morphed and become a bit of a cultural force lately
Nermancer blew me away when I first read it. Had no idea it was part of a trilogy or about the new series! Awesome stuff as always!
Glad you enjoyed it! I didn't realize either!
Just finished reading this a couple hours ago. Ending was so confusing to me with the last lines. No idea about there being a trilogy
There is also a card game called In Android: Netrunner. One of the best card games ever created, in my opinion. In it one person takes the role of a hacker intent on revealing the corruption within big business (called the Runner), and the other person plays the mega-corporation itself, which is trying to protect its assets and stop the hacker from breaking in. The gameworld is based heavily on Cyberpunk, in particular William Gibson's Neuromancer, and borrows it's themes and terminology directly from the book (jack in/out, run, ICE, ice breaker). The game has been discontinued but is currently being kept alive through dedication of avid fans.
Snow Crash was my first cyberpunk novel and still a huge favorite, then I read Neuromancer it's amazing
*nice shots of 12 Monkeys, that's a great movie
Thanks so much for shouting out Snow Crash! It was not on my radar and I just checked it out.
So glad someone latched onto the 12 monkeys, can't say how much pleasure it brought me to finally be able to include it in one of my videos haha
@@exitsexamined hell yeah I've seen 12 Monkeys probably 30 times it's one of those movies I could put on when I wasn't feeling like something new haha
Fun fact: There is a track on the Matrix: Reloaded OST titled 'Mona Lisa Overdrive.'
Loved this book. Still trying to create a proper stepping razor build in cyberpunk 2077
My character is literally a molly roleplay haha
Also, let us not forget that the giant supercomputer in the 1995 magnum opus Hackers was literally an homage to the man himself, being called "the Gibson."
I swear to God if apple tv manages to drop the ball on the necromancer adaptation I'll lose my shit
I think alot of us will feel the same haha. Tbh I don't know if I've watched a single Apple TV show, hopefully they are decent quality? But yea would be great to finally get a good show in the setting
Let's hope AppleTV gives it more love than Amazon gave The Peripheral...
My concept of `wife´ is to this day inspired by Wintermute and other sources not all would agree with. 🤣
What a coincidence, I just finished reading Neuromancer (for the first time) a few days ago and am now reading Count Zero. Gibson’s writing style reminds me of Raymond Chandler; it’s like an old noir thriller from the 1940’s but set in a not too distant future.
Oh nice! If you like his writing and haven't already I'd rec Burning Chrome! Haven't checked out Raymond Chandler, sounds extremely interesting
One mistake everyone makes. Even this video makes. Night city is only the small port city in Chiba. The big high tech city everyone thinks about when they think of cyberpunk is the Sprawl in the former United States that the later part of the book takes place in. Night city is only in the beginning of the novel and not to be confused with Night city from the cyberpunk table top game and video game
oh did I say that night city was the sprawl in the video? If so wasn't intentional!
Nice video. I love your series and how you explore these forgotten corridors and passages like a cultural warehouse for storing paradigm shifts. Taking apart the fundamental aspects of why something is nostalgic in the first place or comparing the medium with other similar artworks. Just like I'm about to do, you should check out Dark City if you love nior and cyberpunk, friend! Keep the videos coming, subbed immediately.
Hey thanks so much for the kind words! I agree, it's important to stop and appreciate the full stories of some of our past media to understand how it influences culture today. I just did a quick research of Dark City and it looks so cool! I'm 100% going to watch it. Thanks so much for the sub btw!
@@exitsexamined No problem, brother. I literally had an idea for a channel like this a long time ago, but you've taken it to another level! I bet it will grow fast because people love vaporwave aesthetic (maybe you could do a video on that?) and retro stuff like dead shopping malls because it allows us to put on those rose tinted glasses, if only temporarily. Glad you're gonna watch Dark City, thought it might be up your alley!
Never viewed Cyberpunk as a genre, more of an aesthetic.
As much as I love high fantasy, Sci-fi will always be my first love. Actually got introduced to Neuromancer very late, when I started playing the Shadowrun games
That's awesome you got into from Shadowrun, I feel like recently a ton of people get into from Cyberpunk (and nothing wrong with that) What other sci-fi are you into? Looking for more sci-fi series to do for the channel!
Mmm, I guess Id have to say the original Fallouts. At the time I was also really into another game, Arcanum: Of Steamworks & magic Obscura but thats steampunk 😅
Great video. Even though i didn't really care for the book, i absolutely agree at how visionary, even prophetic, if you will, this novel is. Influencing generations of story tellers.
Hey thank you so much for the kind words and watching the video. It is crazy just the sheer amount of science fiction has been written and out of all it Gibson was probably one of the most accurate in predicting things. Let's just hope he's not right about AI lol
@@exitsexamined for sure! Seriously though, I actually worry just a pinch about all the AI engines coming out that are by so many developers, that one of 'em will eventually become self aware. Seriously, sci-fi literature has been uncannily accurate about so much. Maybe it's a time loop, like the AI sends itself back in time to direct things to bring itself into being. So if there was no AI, then it can't go back in time to create itself, so it gets stuck going around and around!🤯😨 Skynet is real, yo!!!
Oh man, this channel! Amazing work man the subject matter is so relevant to a old school nerds interest! (Born in 82 heheh)
Welcome aboard! So cool to put these videos out and see people who vibe with these series that I love!
Nice video. I read Neuromancer recently and adored it. I really enjoyed Case and Molly as characters, didn’t find them one dimensional at all. And of course the plot and themes and prose and worldbuilding are top notch. I’m interested to see what the show will look like.
Thanks so much! I actually felt the exact same way and had no compliments about the characters. Really enjoyed how so much of their stories were left up to the imagination.
Did you read the other books? Molly's story gets fleshed out a bit more
@@exitsexamined Not yet! Though I just ordered Count Zero the other day so I’m hoping to get back to the world of the Sprawl soon. I can’t wait to see what Molly gets up to in Mona Lisa Overdrive.
It was hard for me to read neuromancer because how O.G. it was, like driving an classic car. I never finished Neuromancer, but i did read the other two books; *Count Zero* and *Mona Lisa Overdrive*
But my go-to book by Gibson wasn't even his other books, but the short story *The Gernsback Continuum* now that man me think and her understood retrofuturism to a Tee, made me think
Idoru fits in the sprawl without actually being a sprawl book.
That would have been a great one to adapt early as the AI in it is a virtual idol (a vocaloid) and the book came out 11 years before Hatsune Miku debuted.
At the time the book came out a virtual idol was Lynn Minmay or Kyoko Date an animated cartoon much like the Gorillaz but the Idol in this story is a semi independent entity on track for a full awakening.
It is part of the Bridge trilogy that came after the sprawl series and the Bridge trilogy's themes then lead to the Jackpot Trilogy.
The Bridge trilogy focuses on the race to corporate control of cyberspace and emerging tech and lays the groundwork for the world of the sprawl.
The Bridge btw refers to the damaged San Fransisco to Oakland bridge and is the reason the loTek's lived on a bridge in the movie "Johnny Mnemonic" instead of on domes and why people in the videos go there to buy tech.
On a side note the Bigend trilogy is worth a look as well though it is the farthest from the sprawl world and set in 1992.
It is quite interesting if AppleTV will adapt the book into a series. Even though they made many changes, I think they did a great job with adapting Asimovs The Foundation into a series. I thought the quality and acting were quite good. So I have some expectations for this adaptation as well regarding the quality of the series they will produce 🤔
Good to hear Apple seems to do a generally pretty good job. I think to fit it into a TV series they would have to make a good amount of changes to this one too. We can just cross our fingers and hope
Great song from the 2013 self titled Battle Beast album that i can only assume is based on this story
I read this book cover to cover and do not understand why it’s such a big deal. Not trying to troll I’m actually curious! Maybe I had to go in with a more philosophical mindset
Just read more of his trilogies
Whatever happened to Neuromancer? It became reality.
Another title that borrows heavily from neuromancers themes is the visual novel **Baldr Sky**
ha ha I was looking for the music the album is Hardwired artist Neuromancer
check out the track The Howling
Johnny mnemonic was set in the same universe, so there’s kind of been a tie in 🤔
Same with Burning Chrome! But those were written before Neuromancer - in a way Neuromancer is a tie-in to Burning Chrome I guess if you look at like that haha
cyberpunk 2077 was based on a rpg called cyberpunk 2020 so is not true
I tried 3 times to read it, it didn't do it's 'magic'
As you said characters are really 1dimensional
It's OK to bounce off some things - it's not for everyone. Maybe if you try to pick it up again at another point in your life it might connect with you, maybe not! What other types of books are you into?
And totally agree
You seem to be giving too much credit to 80s movies and not enough to actual authors and publications where it started.
No mention of New Worlds magazine for example even though it is the focal point of new wave scifi and what would become know as cyberpunk.
You seem to always jump into subjects in the middle and ignore any info before the mid 80's.
Gibson is definitely the biggest name in the game and our definition of cyberpunk has been consolidated by his sprawl series but the history doesn't start with him and Ridley Scott.
And youre gonna perpetuate the myth that punk started in the UK? Goddamn this one isnt my favorite. Still love the channel though
You lost me at "cyberpunk is a genre"
Not everything has to become a franchise
This whole channel operates on a flawed, modern assumption.
I would agree with you, I don't think everything can or should be made about the franchise! I view this channel not as arguing for franchise but rather exploring the history and stories of incredible media from the past. This does involve looking at the future of these series as well and seeing if there's anything there but the main point is - remembering and celebrating them.