The Grim Dystopia Of Ghost In The Shell - Cyberpunk 101 EP #1
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- A deep dive into the lore, technology, characters as well as ranking every GiTS book, show, movie, & game. Welcome to Cyberpunk 101 episode #1!
Ghost in the Shell is a Japanese cyberpunk media franchise based on the manga series of the same name written and illustrated by Masamune Shirow. The manga, first serialized in 1989 under the subtitle of The Ghost in the Shell, tells the story of a fictional counter-cyberterrorist organization Public Security Section 9, led by protagonist Major Motoko Kusanagi, and is set in mid-21st century Japan.
I hope you guys check out this Cyberpunk great created during the golden era of the Cyberpunk genre!
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0:00 - Cyberpunk 101, A New Series
0:43 - Ghost In The Shell, The Beginning
2:11 - Creation & Influence
4:07 - The Concept & Themes
5:54 - The History & Lore Of The World
11:05 - Characters
14:34 - Terminology & Technology
17:47 - Every Book, Show, Movie, Ranked
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Standalone Complex's 1st season is still my favorite ❤
The original movies of Ghost in The Shell. 😎
I'm one of those people who adores the original manga, I think the Oshii films and SAC arguably have more depth and polish, but something about the OG manga just grips me like no other. I kinda love how it just expects you to keep up with it and I also enjoy how much more unapologetically dark it is.
could you write down your tier list pls? I can hardly identify from the pictures in the video.
DAMN an Oni by Bungie mention in the year 2024! I'm proud of you! You really did your homework! As a kid my dream was to see Motoko and Konoko meet each other. 🤭
Thanks Suzi! would have been quite the clash.. maybe we will see Stella and Motoko meet now : )
The Sustainable War reminds me of The War Economy from the Metal Gear universe. Especially two certain antagonists that strangely resembles each other.
I knew that The Matrix took many shot influences from GitS, but didn't remember all the bits that CP2077 all lifted and adapted. Loving where this series is seeming to be heading and look forward to more.
There's a lot. If not influence, definitely references and easter eggs. The optical camo cyberware is called the same thing in GITS. The Yaiba Kusanagi motorcycle is definitely a reference to Motoko Kusanagi. One of the cyberpsychosis mission in Watson, you'd have to fight a cyberpsycho woman from militech who has the same hairstyle as Motoko, has a similar techgogs that Motoko wears a lot, and her name is Lt. Mower - the english translation for Kusanagi is Grass-Mower. Judy also has a Ghost in the Shell tattoo.
The whole chimera fight in the expansion intro is almost a carbon-copy of the spider tank fight in the 1995 GITS movie.
@@beige_projectionTo add to that the artist Ilya kuvshinov worked both on Ghost in the shell SAC_2045 and the music video for Cyberpunk Edgerunners
I was in high school when the 95 GiTS anime released. I had grown up on Voltron, Unico and Sailor Moon. This movie blew my mind as to what animation could look like and the complex stories it could tell. This was great coverage of a classic IP, can't wait to see more!
My Favourite all time Manga/Anime series. I Love Ghost in the Shell, especially the OG 1995 anime & Stand Alone Complex.
Gotta agree!
Every time you said GiTS it made me wince. Ghost in the shell is the same number of syllables as Gits. It's like a 90's flashback with people saying NKOTB!
Just finished the whole video. Definitely agree with you on SAC being the best entry to Ghost in the Shell. They didn't take away Motoko's personality in SAC. She's badass and serious when she needs to be, but can also be fun and lighthearted when the mood calls for it. I think the Laughing Man in SAC 1st Gig is also the best antagonist in all of GITS. The stand alone episodes are episodic, but they're really good. I especially love the episode you showed at 29:20. It reminds me of people in the CP77 universe who just want to live through braindances.
I would also like to recommend Serial Experiments Lain to be included in your Cyberpunk 101 series
Hear a lot about that one, seems to be one of the standouts from the same era. Will check it out down the line!
SAC is definitely a masterpiece. So many short stories in there that gets philosophical and mind boggling, no cyberpunk series comes close. My favorite is the cyberbrain of a director where people who tried to hack into it get their ghosts stuck watching his unreleased final film.
A nice walk down memory lane for long time fans & a great introduction for people new to the genre.
Thank you! I am completely addicted to in-depth discussion of Cyberpunk media, and besides the excellent Series by Indigo Gaming there is not much of this stuff around. I hope you'll keep going with this series for some time.
What makes Cyberpunk special is that our reality is basically a Cyberpunk Dystopia
Never forget as a wee little shit ass how much Akira and Gits along with Neo Tokyo blew my 7 year old mind when i found them with re-runs, and now all these themes are everywhere : P
I've been waiting for this episode! Thanks for the hard work and upload, choom 🤠
Stand Alone Complex is my favorite anime, especially the Laughing Man arc but it's all great. I also love the episodes that follow the other members of Section 9 through both seasons, really fleshes out the characters and that world. I've watched the original two seasons three times and the first time i didnt even know the tachikomas had little segments after the credits of each episode, gave me a lot more insight into them and the overall story and made me love it even more lol great video!
I had probably seen some trailers of the 1995 film and seen stills of it in gaming magazines I didn't own, but my first real contact with Ghost in the Shell (not cyberpunk, as I had already seen the Matrix way young when I was probably 12 or 13 and I had already loved things like Total Recall, Robocop or Terminator 1 and 2) was at around age 15 coming back from a party night and finding episode 5 airing late on TV. Not even alcohol from that night could get me from instantly connecting with its themes, its worldbuilding and portrayal of futuristic technology and social issues had ever felt as realistic to me as that story about a hacker (the Laughing Man) who hacked people's "implanted google lens" with an augmented reality logo masking their camera feed. The series was already some 3-4 years old by that time.
Since then, Ghost in the Shell has been my favourite thing ever and it kickstarted my love for Cyberpunk unlike anything else. Since then I got all of the manga by Shirow Masamune including Human Error Processor, Manmachine Interface and other series like Appleseed, Orion, Dominion and Black Magic; thanks to it I also got into and bought the manga of Akira or Gunnm as well as comics like Transmetropolitan, Nathan Never, 2020 Visions, The Nikopol Trilogy, The Incal... and books like the Sprawl Trilogy, Snow Crash and the Diamond Age, The Stars my Destination and The Demolished Man, the Takeshi Covacs books and Market Forces, Burning Chrome, some Philip K. Dick books, A Song Called Youth or Pat Cadigan's omnibus. I'm quite proud of my cyberpunk collection, but I wouldn't have become a total cyberpunk nutcase were it not for GITS SAC in particular. I'm eagerly awaiting the release of Human Algorythm and Global Neural Network in Spain, and in the meanwhile I'm collectiong Mars Chronicle and Eden It's an Endless World.
Thanks for this great video.
Great lil journey!
My introduction to Masamune Shjirow was AppleSeed and I still own all the American style mangas I bought when I was in high school [REDACTED) years ago. Ghost in the Shell is my second favorite of his titles but that's like saying it's ice cream with only fudge topping instead of fudge and chopped nuts.
Came here for the smooch, stayed for the excellent GITS lesson
hahaha, cheers
Ghost in the Shell one of my favorite IP's thanks for this great vid
Easily my man this has become my favorite vid you have created. Top notch editing and concise explanation of this universe. I'm looking forward to the future content!
Thanks choomie : )
Really awesome video, super excited to see what's to come with the rest of the series
Cheers!
Great video. Entertaining and informative.
I own the full SAC series & still enjoy Arise. Can't say you're wrong about what you don't like about it. For me there was still a lot to enjoy
Yessss!!! Ghost in the Shell episode!!! This is what made me love the genre Cyberpunk!!!😍🥰😭💜💜💜
Edit: to answer your questions. I grew up watching the anime series on adult swim, and I then found the 1995 movie. It really blew me away!! Both the movie and SAC series belong in S tier along with the anime. This series is what really introduced me to the whole cyberpunk genre and really showed me what cyberpunk really was. So it’s a full circle moment coming back to this series after having fun in Cyberpunk 2077. I’m just so happy to have a video game where I can be like the Major and augment my body and it’s sooo much fun!!😍🥰🥰
Excited for a video series on all the cyberpunk pillars! Akira, ghost, matrix are ones i’m hyped for, and i’m excited to learn about other stories!
I love Ghost in The Shell. I wonder how many people would get a full body prosthetic? 😎
I really gotta watch this movie, thanks for reminding me.
Yeah you truly love this game I been following you since 2020 and still cover this game
Nice work. You deserve so many more views. I love the 1995 film. Can you remind me what editing software you use? Well done!
Cheers! Premiere Pro
@@TheNeonArcade thank you. Congrats again on 100k!
I’m so excited for this series! Thank you so much!! Your channel really got me into cyberpunk. So thank you!
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I’ve been waiting on this video for a while, And it’s great please continue making these. :)
Okay this is truly epic Neon delivers 😻
I am absolutely in love with the Cyberpunk world. Makes me want to create my own.
I actually binged watched every thing in the franchise and read the manga and played the ps1 game and the psp game
Also can’t wait to see if you’ll do a video on oni
Whats the easiest way to find it all?
Great video, I always forget about the world wars and political setting
Love thes as a series concept, can't wait to see what you think about novels like Snowcrash or Blood Music. Ironically GITS had a video game made decades before Cyberpunk 2077, based on the SAC storyline. It wasn't very good however, barely above shovelware. Cyberpunk 2077 is therefore thus the best and closest we've gotten to the GITS game of our dreams.
Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed, Shirow's earlier work share a lot of world building without actually being in the same story universe. I still consider Appleseed to be a great preamble to the world of Ghost in the Shell. The interesting thing is that Appleseed was written before the internet blew up, so the emphasis is more on traditional wetwork vs cyberhacks and reality perception manipulation.
Appleseed is also gorgeously hand-drawn, whereas Shirow starts leaning on his cut-and-paste 3DCG element crutch later into GITS, Orion and his NSFW works.
One of the things I appreciate about the SAC treatments of GITS is the idea of using mazes, dummy consoles, honeypots and large physical firewalls. Also similar to Mike Pondsmith's Cyberpunk world, there is a dangerous ecosystem of wild viruses and rogue AI on the open 'net, making forays into non-private cyberspace a dance with mortal peril.
I adore the OG GITS movie and SAC one and two. I abhore most of Appleseed's animated treatments, strongly disapprove of the male lead being race-changed for later adaptations and have been disappointed at every 3D animated attempt. I recommend Appleseed soley as its original manga. Most of the GITS manga is quete good but Shirow is at his best when doeng the illustration by hand.
BTW, The Major has 2 "major" references in Cyberpunk 2077, the first is the Yaiba Kusanagi, a stylized motorbike and see second is a Cyberpsycho encounter with a Lt. Mower, closely replicating the scene from the original movie, which also was in the Live Action treatment feat. ScarJoe. Kusanagi can be read as "Grass Cutter".
I agree with all of the praise and critique here. The 1995 movie and SAC /SSS aged extraordinarily well.
Also, I dig the format and your approach to reviews. It's very cool to see you branch out beyond 2077. Looking forward to more!
Cheers, means a lot! They really did
I agree with your assessment of the manga. As someone so had so much fun reading Volume 1, my heart broke when volume 2's art suddenly changed, and there were entire chapters with just technobabble. Volume 2 was really a slog to get go through, but tbf to Masamune, right from the start, he's said that he doesn't consider himself as a real mangaka. He's just a techno nerd who wants to show his love for tech through his art. I think he just nerded out too much in Volume 2, and if I'm not mistaken, computer rendering was just booming around the time volume 2 was created so perhaps he was excited to get into it.
Unpopular opinion but I personally hate what Oshii did to Motoko. He made her expressionless and appear to be soulless and without any personality. Manga volume 1 and Motoko in SAC 1st and 2nd gig will always be my favorite.
Great info love neonarcade Fell in love with ghost in a shell and Akira as a lol one been hook on this cyberpunk/ future since...🔥🔥🔥🔥 and I'm now 40
I'm looking forward to the braindance mini movie. You put so much love and care into this and I am looking forward to the juicy knowledge you share. 😃
Great video. Please keep the series going. Love it
DUUUUDE YES, I need this as my cyberpunk homework, I got a lot of catching up to do
Excellent breakdown. Subbed. Looking forward to seeing more of these.
I'm disappointed the franchise didn't talk more about what happened in the European and especially African continents, but oh well.
It's interesting: biologists say that the human brain is near the apex of how intelligent it can get through natural growth of the size of the brain. Once it hits that max, then the brain getting any bigger will actually diminish our intelligence. The only way for humans to get smarter soon won't be through natural evolution making our brains bigger, but through something like cyberbrains. Very interesting.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🌐 *Introduction to Cyberpunk 101 Series*
- Introduction to the series exploring the cyberpunk genre, its origins, and key influences.
- Highlights the aim to cover influential people, stories, and ideas shaping cyberpunk.
- Mentions the plan to explore both Western and Japanese interpretations of cyberpunk.
00:51 📺 *Personal Connection to Cyberpunk*
- The narrator's personal journey into the cyberpunk genre through "The Matrix" and "Ghost in the Shell."
- Describes initial reluctance to explore beyond early exposures to cyberpunk media.
01:48 🤖 *Deep Dive into Ghost In The Shell*
- Overview of "Ghost In The Shell" as a seminal work in cyberpunk and post-cyberpunk genres.
- Details the comprehensive exploration of the franchise by the narrator, including mangas, series, and movies.
- Discusses themes, lore, and why the dystopian setting of Ghost In The Shell stands out.
03:44 🌍 *Cyberpunk Influence and Japanese Cyberpunk Context*
- Discusses "Ghost In The Shell's" influence on Western media and its place within Japanese cyberpunk.
- Comparison with other cyberpunk influences like "Akira" and Western counterparts such as "Blade Runner."
- Clarifies "Ghost In The Shell's" contribution to the depth and complexity of cyberpunk themes.
06:03 🏙️ *Ghost In The Shell's World Setting*
- Explains the geopolitical and social backdrop of the "Ghost In The Shell" universe post-World Wars.
- Details Japan's rise as a technological superpower and the global geopolitical landscape.
- Describes the technological advancements and the societal implications within the series' setting.
11:10 👥 *Main Characters and Section 9*
- Introduces key characters of "Ghost In The Shell" and their roles within Public Security Section 9.
- Highlights the diversity of skills and backgrounds of the team members.
- Discusses the unique characteristics and cybernetic enhancements of characters like Motoko Kusanagi and Batou.
14:54 💻 *Cyberpunk Terminology and Concepts*
- Breaks down essential cyberpunk terms and technologies in "Ghost In The Shell," such as cyberbrains, ghosts, and prosthetic bodies.
- Explains the implications of cyberization on identity, security, and human consciousness.
- Describes defensive and offensive cybernetic technologies and their role in the narrative.
18:13 📚 *Review of Manga and Media Adaptations*
- Provides an overview and personal thoughts on the "Ghost In The Shell" manga and its adaptations.
- Suggests starting points for new fans and ranks the various entries in the franchise.
- Invites viewer discussion and opinions on the series and its interpretations.
18:13 📘 *Manga Review and Reading Order*
- Discussion on the order and impact of the "Ghost in the Shell" manga series.
- Highlights the unique storytelling and dense, complex themes within the manga.
- Recommends starting with volumes 1 and 1.5 for newcomers, noting volume 2's challenging content.
22:51 🖼️ *Artistic Merit and Manga's Appeal*
- Reflects on the artistic style and appeal of the "Ghost in the Shell" manga.
- Compares the aesthetic and vibe of manga to anime adaptations.
- Appreciates the unique blend of humor, art, and storytelling in the manga format.
24:18 🎥 *Review of 1995 Anime and Innocence*
- Analysis of the 1995 "Ghost in the Shell" anime and its sequel "Innocence."
- Emphasizes the philosophical depth, artistic quality, and influence of the original anime.
- Notes the evolution of artistic presence and thematic exploration in "Innocence."
28:28 📺 *Stand Alone Complex Series Insight*
- Detailed overview of "Stand Alone Complex" and its significance within the franchise.
- Discusses the blend of standalone and complex episodes, thematic depth, and character focus.
- Recommends SAC as an entry point for new fans, highlighting its comprehensive exploration of the "Ghost in the Shell" universe.
31:17 🖥️ *SAC 2045 and Its Reception*
- Critiques the animation style and storytelling approach of "Stand Alone Complex 2045."
- Acknowledges the narrative's eventual strengths but notes the challenges in its presentation.
- Positions "2045" within the broader context of the franchise, offering a mixed assessment.
33:10 🌟 *Arise Series and Its Place in the Franchise*
- Explores "Arise" as a prequel series detailing the formation of Section 9.
- Comments on the return to 2D animation, character design, and overall execution.
- Provides an overall perspective on "Arise's" place within the "Ghost in the Shell" saga, noting its distinctive style and contributions.
34:09 🌀 *Arise Series Critique*
- Evaluates the "Arise" series as a confusing and less engaging part of the franchise.
- Notes the lack of chemistry and disjointed storytelling as major drawbacks.
- Suggests the "Arise" movie may be worth watching, but advises skipping the Border episodes for a better experience.
35:02 🎬 *Live Action Movie Review*
- Critically reviews the 2017 live-action adaptation of "Ghost in the Shell."
- Highlights the movie's failure to capture the essence and depth of the original material.
- Acknowledges the visual and conceptual art as the film's only redeeming qualities.
36:51 🌟 *Final Recommendations and Tier List*
- Summarizes the best entry points and recommendations for exploring "Ghost in the Shell."
- Emphasizes "Stand Alone Complex" and the original manga as top choices.
- Provides guidance on where to access anime and manga, and briefly mentions other franchise media.
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I love this new series! You've done really well
Glad to hear! Thank you
Great video!!! Hope you continue the series!! I really the enjoyed ghost in the shell sac universe ( except the last two that i haven't watched).
I adore the cyberpunk genre and I especially adore Ghost In The Shell (double especially for the manga). I myself have been reviewing cyberpunk movies on my Letterboxd for about a year now and am always down for more cyberpunk content, I'll def keep watching these vids.
I do feel like more could be said about some of Shirow's other works that were formative in the Cyberpunk genre before Ghost in the Shell came along. Most notably, the paramilitary comedy of Dominion: Tank Police. The Terminator/Horror of the OAV for Black Magic M-66. Or the existential opus, Appleseed, which if not happening in some other part of the post WW4 world of GitS, perhaps just the world next door. The Appleseed Manga's similarly dense as the Ghost in the Shell manga are. As well as the philosophy. It also has the benefit of a late 80's OAV, and at least two or three CGI feature films. They're worth your time.
2045 Had to grow on me. I end up liking it quite a bit in the end.
I love this, thank you for your hard work and would love to see a video of Akira! I finished the comics for it and have to say it’s a great story. There is a colorized version too which I have seen only after finishing it lol.
I also loved GITS 1995 movie and the SAC show but never finished the comic or seen the show in order fully, it was always on cable so I just watched what was on. I am now going to go on a Ghost in the shell binge now because of you!
Thank you for the video again, It made my morning!
Glad to hear! Enjoy your binge : )
2045 gave me that 'Break Me Down Sunset' moment
Amazing content, I recommend an AKIRA video, besides GITS and Blade Runner, is the most influncial title in the cyberpunk genre
Those are both next :)
If you want Cyberpunk, you need to watch the Bubblegum Crisis series as well.
Do you think you could still watch it now and it not be dated?
2 really good ones (imo). I hope you do videos on one day are battle angel Alita and psycho pass.
So I've finished. Great stuff man. Really well put together as always. About the only thing I'd fight you on is your thought that Togasa is more interesting than The Major.
The video game was a good one. With just a few controller throwing sections.
Hell yeah Choom time to binge this!
Thanks for thinking of us time travelers from the future. Most from this era aren't so considerate. 👍
loool
I enjoyed the SAC video game for PS2. Too bad it wasn’t released on PC.
Really nice work! I was wondering how some of the cyberpunk creators would pivot. This will be a great way to introduce fans of 2077 to some classics. Can't wait to see what's next.
18:33 motoko boots
Good review.
What I wish there would be is a pen and paper tabletop rpg based on GitS.
I've got pretty much every single cyberpunk genre rpg made, from Blade Runner, Altered Carbon, Shadowrun, Cyberpunk Red, Ex Machina, the 3rd Edition GURPS Transhuman Space campaign setting (and GURPS Cyberworld, Blue Planet, Autoduel, Reign of Steel, Ogre, Cthulhupunk among others), OGL D20 Cybernet and Aetherium Wars. I don't have SLA Industries or Eclipse Phase (yet; gimme time), but I have yet to see an rpg based on Ghost.
And that's a tragedy.
i actually dug the live action flick and think the best version of the franchise ive seen is the og manga lol
I am wicked excited to watch. (At work ATM) but I did want to say.....bold choice to have scojo so prominent in the thumbnail. While I don't think it was offensive like some tried to make it, it does pale in comparison to the rest of work in that universe. Some diehards are gonna nope right out before even watching. Would be a shame since you do really make some great content.
Haha my commentary on the live action isn't too kind. Reason I used her is because she's recognizable
@@TheNeonArcade I do wonder if that actually helps with the algorithm.
Tbh I role play Major in GTA and most open world games
I called my Blackberry Smart Phone a MEAD - Mobile Electronic Aplication Device in honour of Sid Mead. My fave book is Mona Lisa Overdrive, and Stand Alone Complex gives me MLO vibes
lol!
I was going to watch this regardless. But as soon as I heard “post cyberpunk” I was locked in
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Thank god, please keep this series going until project Orion drops. May I also suggest you create content surrounding the 4th/5th Industrial Revolution technologies that will be emerging these next 10yrs that have begun to make waves I’m sure that will be plenty of content for you to make for your channel
videos about IRL stuff is also planned, but the focus for now will be on this series since it takes so long to make!
@@TheNeonArcade please do panels, this is not just important from an entertainment perspective but in general. Myself and other technologist’s and futurists feel people are woefully unprepared for the scale of how much things are about to change in general
I don't agree with you on the full-action movie. It does not get anywhere close to anime or Blade Runners, but it has its good moments, acting is okay (-ish), and I really like the city and visuals. All of which makes the atmosphere of the title.
Togusa was... Let's not talk about his character. It's sad.
The live action movie could've been so much if they just stuck with slower artsy vibe of the 95 movie or the political action of SAC(but focusing only *one* of the major arcs). Tho, personally, I would've rather they made an adaptation of Appleseed, instead
I’ve played the ps1 game and the psp game
i watched a video on the blade runner game, and I think its no coincidence that there's a character named Lucy, that looks like a certain edgerunner, i think i found her inspiration lol
Pris from BR is a carbon copy of Misty as well :)
I think Lucy was inspired by Lain from Serial Experiments Lain. They even got the same hairstyle, and considering the Lain is a Japanese anime, it makes more sense that Trigger knew of her more. Serial Experiments Lain is one of the best cyberpunk anime around.
Hey I know these two novels are not really cyberpunk but I feel like they are foundational novels off the sub genre with Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World. I'm not sure if it would ever get covered in this series and they are very popular stories.
I just think those two stories are foundational.
Tbh I've never cared for 2045. I've felt that Solid State society was a better send off
SAC should be fully in B tier at least and the live action one in E tier entirely
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It's funny, you like the team more than Motoko, I'm the opposite. You really liked Innocence, I can't stand it. Regardless of whether I agree with your ratings, we both love GitS, and it's my absolutely favorite manga/anime. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Interesting! Love that people can enjoy it for different reasons
I also could not stand Innocence. I liked the plot, and I love how they brought back Motoko. It made sense after she merged with the puppeteer entity. But I couldn't stand the script. I thought the exchange of quotes on the first half of the movie was really meaningful and nice, but when they just kept exchanging quotes again and again on the second-half of the movie, it almost felt like 80% of the script was made of quotes.
I hated the SAC anime. It was like a bastardization of the manga and the movie, in a downgraded storytelling fashion, that rubbed out all the nuance for a juvenile level of understanding. The way I describe it to friends is "Ghost in the Shell for babies." It isn't D tier (I only leave that for the American movie, and the 3d animes) but it isn't even high C. It is a solid C tier, in a near flawless series.
On a less negative fashion, I really love the format of this, and I am looking forwards to the rest of this series from you! Keep up the awesome work!
37:00 (just to quickly see the tier list)
First of all, many thanks for the video, it must have been a ton of work. And holy shit, it's in-depth. Awesome!
Just a few things from my personal perspective, and to be clear, really entirely personal, it's not meant as criticism because you probably better know what you're doing and what the YT audience expects:
- I could do without any tier list, because a lot of that is - IMO - based on personal taste. I mean everybody knows that the 1995 anime is legendary and "up there" while the live action movie is... disappointing. On the other hand the 2.0 manga might be "the best thing ever" for some but "utter incomprehensible bullshit" for others, so who can judge... Praise and criticism comes across in the video just fine, no need to force things on lists.
- Maybe I'm too old, but I'd love to have you linger more on different aspects of the setting, world-building, and themes, take a deeper dive than just listing the technicalities of the themes presented. For instance post-humanism and cyberbrains. What does it mean to be not able to be sure of yourself any more - you can't know that you're hacked, that all you know is basically fake - how is it represented, how do people deal with it. GitS 1995 has this awesome scene with the garbage truck driver that always brings me to tears, that strikes home into the heart every fucking time I watch this movie. Maybe take a little more time to talk about things like that, what emotional impact and questions - that's IMO what Cyberpunk is really about - the medium at hand achieves and asks, and how. Cyberpunk crosses so many topics, emotional, philosophical, scientific, political, environmental, I think it would be good to linger on a few of them a little longer, depending on the medium at hand, and go a little deeper. Like in GitS - the calm moments of reflection. I.e. the concept of "sustainable war" (pretty mind-blowingly evil and plausible) or the namesake "ghost" and the implications.
But that's just nitpicking really, the video is great as it is, and personally I know only 1995, Innocence (which I would also put "up there", after repeated views), the New Movie (which I found disappointingly shallow) and SAC 2045 which I came to love purely for the story and somehow learned to live with the clumsy 3D art. So I'm glad a got a lot broader overview of everything else there is in this franchise. Also the best advertisement for the 2.0 manga, now everybody has to get it and try to make sense of it. I know I will 🙂
I'm looking for feedback so thanks for sharing! After putting it together I realized that the tier list was half of it, which I think I want to truncate a bit going forward and like you said linger on the world a bit more. Thanks for the comment!
Outstanding stuff ❤ though thought you were generous with your live action ranking, that movie was just bad.
The visuals saved it from an F. I agree it was a dumpster fire otherwise, insulting even.
Thanks!
Well, I watched the live action movie and actually liked it 😂. Does that mean I will the the rest even more or hate it lol
You’ll probably like them more haha
I wonder about this worlds standing in Warhammer 40k M41.90. Would it be excepted and inducted or Exterminatis? Because I'm thinking this world reminds me of the Interex. Just saying.
looking back on The Matrix I wouldn't call it cyberpunk, Hackerpunk definitely but I don't feel it has the commentary central to Cyberpunk.
Not as much as other works, sure. Its more of to what degree are these movies "Cyberpunk". If you think about it in terms of a checklist, the ones with more checked off (social disparity, transhumanist themes, femme fatales, tech-noire, aesthetic elements), like Neuromancer/2077 are more Cyberpunk by definition. Ghost In The Shell for example, really lacks the punk element, whereas Akira is much more punk. It also offers more of a negative, body horror transformation than the more optimistic transhumanist themes in GiTS.
So yea, The Matrix by some metrics is Cyberpunk and others not so much.
Arise, in fact, was extremely boring. On the other hand, Standalone Complex, as well as the original movies, are audio-visual monuments.
I tried reading the manga but it is a very hard read for me. There is so many political phrases that i dont understand.
In future please try and pronounce manga correctly. You're saying it like mainega and its like pokeMON or monga
Matrix is not cyberpunk, my friend. i dislike that world and franchise, is overatted.