Які техніки професіонали!! І які якісні дороги! Пілоти демонструють високу майстерність, але без такої якісної дороги це було б дуже важко. В Україні зараз майже не залишилося таких доріг. Але ми ПЕРЕМОЖЕМО і все відбудуємо.
Funny I was able to read your message without a translator. I have never studied Ukrainian, Russian a bit and even that not since 2008 attack to Georgia. Yes, we will win and more lasting peace will be formed between Europe and Russia. Might be too much to hope for democratic free Russia, but we can keep that in our dreams!
@@emilnordman1208 Only F-35B, and even that does not do fully-vertical take off, at least with any load. They use extremely short ramp take-offs, and vertical landing. F-35A (e.g. Finland, Norway) and F-35C (Navy, Carriers) cannot do any STOVL. They are just normal airplanes.
"Emergency Takeoff" is quite normal for us in Finland. Good to have also Nato even we have been always preparing to defend ourselves also without help.
It is. Static airfields are so vulnerable. I think this is a one thing we'll be bringing to the NATO. Where you have a paved road - you have a airfield. It is easier to land a jet to the road than a carrier.
Finland has 21 official sites like this, spread throughout the whole country. They are wide and easily recognized even on Google Maps. But then there are also dozens and dozens of unofficial ones which can be used as well. Many airports have one or two non-parallel stretches of highways next to them, so they can be easily used as an emergency runway as well.
There were some good shots of a Finnish Hornet (soon to be mothballed and replaced with F-35s) from the left side, notice how there is a light in the body just in front of the cockpit. That's a special feature we requested, to illuminate for recognition and documentation purposes our eastern neighbor's military planes in incidents, some have a tendency of having "navigation difficulties" and wandering into our airspace. Just some routine testing of our readiness.
@@tm9316 When I did my service in 1992, there was a rumor Finnish Defence Forces had in long time storage some wood burning steam locomotives from the 1940s. Probably not true, but funny.
@@mattilindstrom It was no secret that steam locomotives were kept in storage, just in case, till the eighties. They've since been either demolished or donated to museums. One or two have even ended up in private ownership.
Just do the same in winter conditions (like the Finnish Air Force pilots do), and you also need to understand the meaning of friction between the (frozen) asphalt of the highway and the rubber of your landing gear, and how to use the brakes without getting into a sleigh ride.
It is almost impossible for the enemy to destroy every runway in finnish soil because essentially every straight strip of road has these truck stops that are standardised to be used as a fueling tarmac for fighter planes. All but the smallest rural roads have potential to be used as a guerilla-airstrip if need be. To completely incapacitate our air force, they'd need to destroy EVERY strip of road, which there are thousands of kilometres, and that is a very costly endeavor. We have been preparing for the enemy invasion for the last 80 years, and that can be seen in every part of our infrastructure, building codes, and even agricultural legislation.
@@peabase Yeah and the fine is based on the income. It's half a days earnings. A speed like that would probably be around 30-50 day fines. I'm guessing they would fine the pilot, but if payer was the US Air Force, Finlands budget for next year would look a bit different.
Oikeastaan ei ole kysymys ainoastaan pilotin laskeutumisesta, vaan lennoston tekemästä tukikohdasta valmiiksi muutamassa tunnissa. Se on sitä isoa osaamista.
@@lintu25 Not really. The F-35B is curtailed by a heavy lift fan, which adds to the cost and limits its payload. STOVL is for special applications. Lacking aircraft carriers, Finland's requirements aren't that special. While having no carriers either, Singapore opted for the F-35B, because it's land-scarce. Finland doesn't have that problem.
Most fighter jets can land and take off from roads, but are they built to operate from road bases? Change engine in one hour refuel and load new weapons in 10 minutes like the JAS 39 Gripen which has it from the drawing room the ease of servicing in the forest
Finland is the only country who have haighways strigt enough for plane to land and take off almost lol , in Norway all roads have curves and shit and bad asphalt too with holes and shit!
. Can you tell me what countries? And highway bases need a system for service before the mission and service on the airplane. And to protect the base.
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 Switzerland for example. They also have a lot of aircraft shelters built so deep inside mountains that not even nuclear weapons can destroy them.
Sad to say this but as a Finnish who works regularly in Norway , this is quite honestly true. Even E6 has these narrow lanes on Norwegian side and so frigging tight tunnels, where for some reason overtaking is legal. And roads connecting towns together may not even have trenches and culverts for rainwater and water from melting snow to drain to, leading to flooding of road and nearby fields, and no one seems to mind. I just find it strange. Also city and road lighting in atrocious in many places, Oslo and cities/towns in Viken seem to have some problems with this, I don't know if it's energy saving measure or light pollution related, but it affects safety. I don't mean this as nasty criticism, Norway is great country, but your infrastructure needs rethinking, and Norway should have funds to fix this, one would imagine.
NOT has emergency take off, has NATO and germany and english and Finland training operation, normal training job ewery year at Finland, have many road were can landing and service and fill new gasoline, has only first time US Air Force has together whit training too whit all other planes.
This makes Gripen E obsolete! Since the road bases in Sweden are 16m wide and 600m long. Even worse, Gripen E lacks both tailhook and brake chute! Sweden should go for F-35 instead...
Sweden doesn't have aircraft carriers. Tail hook and brake chute are not necessary. Gripen's front wings act also as air breaks so runway length requirement is not very long since plane is also quite light. (almost only half of the weight of F-35). F-35 need almost 4 times longer runway to land without chute and even with chute not likely to outperform Gripen. Also Gripen is designed to be easy to service, reload and refuel.
@@Keinapappa The Gripen E engine is so weak, that Gripen E needs as much as 500m just to take off! The jets here have more than twice that thrust. So they only need half of that distance = 250m...
Gripen E isn't obsolete but the F-35 is certainly more capable. It's a much newer aircraft after all. The next Swedish aircraft will not be a purely Swedish design anymore because let's face it; modern aircraft are too expensive for one small nation to produce. See BAE Systems Tempest for the future of aircraft design involving Sweden.
In many ways F-35 and JAS 39 are the best possible jets today. But F-35 is much more expensive to buy and use. The cost per hour is about 6 times more expensive. And JAS 39 is easy to serve. 5 soldiers and one officer makes it ready for mission in 10 minutes. Total impossible for the F-35.
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 Gripen C was slaughtered by F-22 at Red Flag. Sweden want's to forget all about it. There's even a video on YT about it! _Gripen - The Forgotten Wars_
@@villekinnunen6357They do, practically half of our country, but that is not the reason why dispersed operations are necessary. They can hit the bases and grounded assets with ground attack missiles. F-35 can fly with better impunity in areas covered by enemy air defense, however.
Look maps and measure- Russian border to Finnish western border is aprox 430 km. This question is handled 20 years ago. Solution was very many different airstrips and very moving maintenance.
So you are using Finland as your playground? (like ukraine) How would you feel if we come with jets to your country? Put the politicians to the frontline.
No. They aren't using Finland as a playground. Finns invited the rest of the NATO forces to exercises in Finland to train on supporting Finland if Russia invades. FYI NATO is a mutual defensive alliance and it isn't an imperialist force unlike Russia.
well, as a Finnish person I'm very happy that those US jets are training in Finland. They are welcome to do so as often as they like! I'm also extremely pleased that Finland will get two Nato headquarters; one in the south and one in the north. Receiving Nato Forward land forces is also very welcome news. As long as Russia stays on their own side of the border, everyone should be happy, right. I mean The Finnish have no problems with any of this, while the alliance members aren't really complaining either. The only ones who could be angry about any of this are the ones who have malice against Finland and are considering hostile military action against our nation. Russia has constantly told they aren't even thinking anything like that against Finland, so they shouldn't have any problems with any of this either, right...
Another Finn here, also welcoming our allies to play around here. After all, we have excellent facilities for these games. And what it comes to politicians, almost all of our (male) politicians have military training and if war broke out, some of them would be serving in the military. But more importantly, everyone has a job to do, politicians need to do politicians job.
Які техніки професіонали!! І які якісні дороги! Пілоти демонструють високу майстерність, але без такої якісної дороги це було б дуже важко. В Україні зараз майже не залишилося таких доріг. Але ми ПЕРЕМОЖЕМО і все відбудуємо.
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Funny I was able to read your message without a translator. I have never studied Ukrainian, Russian a bit and even that not since 2008 attack to Georgia.
Yes, we will win and more lasting peace will be formed between Europe and Russia. Might be too much to hope for democratic free Russia, but we can keep that in our dreams!
F35 can do vertical take off so no need for a runway
@@emilnordman1208 Vectored thrust F-35B model is not the one operated here.
@@emilnordman1208 Only F-35B, and even that does not do fully-vertical take off, at least with any load. They use extremely short ramp take-offs, and vertical landing.
F-35A (e.g. Finland, Norway) and F-35C (Navy, Carriers) cannot do any STOVL. They are just normal airplanes.
"Emergency Takeoff" is quite normal for us in Finland. Good to have also Nato even we have been always preparing to defend ourselves also without help.
It is. Static airfields are so vulnerable. I think this is a one thing we'll be bringing to the NATO. Where you have a paved road - you have a airfield. It is easier to land a jet to the road than a carrier.
Grazie Finlandia per insegnare l'esperienza nella logistica adattabile di qualità . Italia . Forza eroi Ucraini
Finland has 21 official sites like this, spread throughout the whole country. They are wide and easily recognized even on Google Maps. But then there are also dozens and dozens of unofficial ones which can be used as well. Many airports have one or two non-parallel stretches of highways next to them, so they can be easily used as an emergency runway as well.
And don´t forget Sweden!
What I do understand is the more friends you have in this world whether as a person or a nation the better off you will be in the long run. Peace✌️
Even if it is sunny outside no one is going to blame you for having an umbrella with you.
@@DarkZodiacZZ True.. and making me laugh at the same time!
There were some good shots of a Finnish Hornet (soon to be mothballed and replaced with F-35s) from the left side, notice how there is a light in the body just in front of the cockpit. That's a special feature we requested, to illuminate for recognition and documentation purposes our eastern neighbor's military planes in incidents, some have a tendency of having "navigation difficulties" and wandering into our airspace. Just some routine testing of our readiness.
They never will be "destroyed". Stored yes
@@tm9316 When I did my service in 1992, there was a rumor Finnish Defence Forces had in long time storage some wood burning steam locomotives from the 1940s. Probably not true, but funny.
@@mattilindstrom It was no secret that steam locomotives were kept in storage, just in case, till the eighties. They've since been either demolished or donated to museums. One or two have even ended up in private ownership.
@@peabase Couple of the Hr1 series are still in operating condition.
Just do the same in winter conditions (like the Finnish Air Force pilots do), and you also need to understand the meaning of friction between the (frozen) asphalt of the highway and the rubber of your landing gear, and how to use the brakes without getting into a sleigh ride.
Phi công F35 cất cánh khẩn cấp tại Ranua Phần Lan tuyệt vời. Không quân Mỹ OK 🇺🇸.
Chào bạn đồng hương 😂
@@uchuu7458 Cảm ơn bạn. Chúc bạn vui vẻ và An Lành nhé 🤗👋.
@@MinhNguyen-nl1gm ,cảm ơn bạn cũng vậy nhé
Hienoja lähestymisiä maantielle 'läpilaskuja', hyvää harjoittelua...
Stronger together.
rumor has it ,
as per last week these fighters were upgraded with super advanced feature
they can smell putin from 5,000 miles off !
It's called "High-sensitive bullshit detector Mark V"
It is almost impossible for the enemy to destroy every runway in finnish soil because essentially every straight strip of road has these truck stops that are standardised to be used as a fueling tarmac for fighter planes. All but the smallest rural roads have potential to be used as a guerilla-airstrip if need be. To completely incapacitate our air force, they'd need to destroy EVERY strip of road, which there are thousands of kilometres, and that is a very costly endeavor.
We have been preparing for the enemy invasion for the last 80 years, and that can be seen in every part of our infrastructure, building codes, and even agricultural legislation.
For a moment I thought that it was landing on a curve !
Những người phi công tài giỏi điều khiển máy bay ném bom tàng hình F35... Như ý 🇺🇸👋.
USA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hornet landing on 7:30 mark looked awesome
Emergency for US pilots is routine to Finnish ones.
How hi is f35 take off and landing speed about? Just curious.
This is normal road based air operations training not emergency take-off.
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You forgot to pay the toll fee. Will be sending you a bill
The cost for flying these things is high enough.
no such thing in Finland. we have this thing called speed control cameras that collect that fee from using roads.
@@DJShroomOfficial I bet they're bound to rack up quite a fine if the take-off speed of an F-35A is 287 km/h.
@@peabase Yeah and the fine is based on the income. It's half a days earnings. A speed like that would probably be around 30-50 day fines. I'm guessing they would fine the pilot, but if payer was the US Air Force, Finlands budget for next year would look a bit different.
Oikeastaan ei ole kysymys ainoastaan pilotin laskeutumisesta,
vaan lennoston tekemästä tukikohdasta valmiiksi muutamassa tunnissa.
Se on sitä isoa osaamista.
Yes! A bit better than Fouga Magister! 😂
That's a looong time ago, and you're comparing apples and oranges.
Remember one thing, some fighters don't need runway at all. F35 is one of that or its variant. But im gland that you like our highways. Keep coming.
The STOVL-capable F-35B does need a runway, be it a short one, to take off. It can land vertically, however.
@@peabase I would like that however option.
@@lintu25 Not really. The F-35B is curtailed by a heavy lift fan, which adds to the cost and limits its payload. STOVL is for special applications. Lacking aircraft carriers, Finland's requirements aren't that special. While having no carriers either, Singapore opted for the F-35B, because it's land-scarce. Finland doesn't have that problem.
@@peabase So why answer my shit if you know it was true?
@@lintu25 Your shit? There might be a learning opportunity for you here.
Beautifull plane
Most fighter jets can land and take off from roads, but are they built to operate from road bases? Change engine in one hour refuel and load new weapons in 10 minutes like the JAS 39 Gripen which has it from the drawing room the ease of servicing in the forest
One difference between a Lada and an F1 is of course that one can be repaired with a hammer, but that doesn't matter much for winning races.
One diffrence is of course that the Lada equals 3 F1 in the long run. No one trick pony...
Finland should have bought the Gripen.
Raaka peli Ranualla.
Finland is the only country who have haighways strigt enough for plane to land and take off almost lol , in Norway all roads have curves and shit and bad asphalt too with holes and shit!
You are wrong. The Swedish airforce has used highways as warbases at least 50 years. I made my military service in such a base.
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 Other countries as well.
. Can you tell me what countries? And highway bases need a system for service before the mission and service on the airplane. And to protect the base.
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 Switzerland for example. They also have a lot of aircraft shelters built so deep inside mountains that not even nuclear weapons can destroy them.
Sad to say this but as a Finnish who works regularly in Norway , this is quite honestly true. Even E6 has these narrow lanes on Norwegian side and so frigging tight tunnels, where for some reason overtaking is legal. And roads connecting towns together may not even have trenches and culverts for rainwater and water from melting snow to drain to, leading to flooding of road and nearby fields, and no one seems to mind. I just find it strange. Also city and road lighting in atrocious in many places, Oslo and cities/towns in Viken seem to have some problems with this, I don't know if it's energy saving measure or light pollution related, but it affects safety. I don't mean this as nasty criticism, Norway is great country, but your infrastructure needs rethinking, and Norway should have funds to fix this, one would imagine.
NOT has emergency take off, has NATO and germany and english and Finland training operation, normal training job ewery year at Finland, have many road were can landing and service and fill new gasoline, has only first time US Air Force has together whit training too whit all other planes.
Mitä nää selität?
@@samueljussila etkö saa selvää 😂😂
Hyvin tuosta selvän saa, vaikka perssuenglantia onkin.
The problem is that these planes can deliver nukes
@@mariakatariina8751 I would love that.
Norwegians did this their f-35's last year with UK Typhoons.... so US pretty late with this shit
Nice video and enjoyed it; for us it is normal, for somebody else it might be even scary.
Is it fitted with a Lüneburg lens?
Almost 2km highway! 😂
mig 22
This makes Gripen E obsolete! Since the road bases in Sweden are 16m wide and 600m long. Even worse, Gripen E lacks both tailhook and brake chute! Sweden should go for F-35 instead...
Sweden doesn't have aircraft carriers. Tail hook and brake chute are not necessary. Gripen's front wings act also as air breaks so runway length requirement is not very long since plane is also quite light. (almost only half of the weight of F-35). F-35 need almost 4 times longer runway to land without chute and even with chute not likely to outperform Gripen. Also Gripen is designed to be easy to service, reload and refuel.
@@Keinapappa The Gripen E engine is so weak, that Gripen E needs as much as 500m just to take off! The jets here have more than twice that thrust. So they only need half of that distance = 250m...
Gripen E isn't obsolete but the F-35 is certainly more capable. It's a much newer aircraft after all. The next Swedish aircraft will not be a purely Swedish design anymore because let's face it; modern aircraft are too expensive for one small nation to produce. See BAE Systems Tempest for the future of aircraft design involving Sweden.
In many ways F-35 and JAS 39 are the best possible jets today. But F-35 is much more expensive to buy and use. The cost per hour is about 6 times more expensive. And JAS 39 is easy to serve. 5 soldiers and one officer makes it ready for mission in 10 minutes. Total impossible for the F-35.
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 Gripen C was slaughtered by F-22 at Red Flag. Sweden want's to forget all about it. There's even a video on YT about it!
_Gripen - The Forgotten Wars_
Keep away from us
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The Soviets / Russians have been doing this for decades!
Finland has been doing this over a half a century
Sure they Have.. Thats Why Ukraine is Bombing their Air fields....When Nato ib Play.. then you see, the last Planes of RUSSIA in Highways..
You sure understand. Russian S.400 missiles anti aircraft missiles can reach almost all Finland so these road-airfields are necessary.
Nobody cares about S-400 anymore after seeing their pathetic performance in Ukraine and Russia.
Not even close.. 🤣
@@villekinnunen6357They do, practically half of our country, but that is not the reason why dispersed operations are necessary. They can hit the bases and grounded assets with ground attack missiles.
F-35 can fly with better impunity in areas covered by enemy air defense, however.
@@herptek S 400 radar/laungher complex wouldn't survive long let say 200 km from our border thats for sure.
Look maps and measure- Russian border to Finnish western border is aprox 430 km. This question is handled 20 years ago. Solution was very many different airstrips and very moving maintenance.
thats half a year ago...
US date format :) MM-DD-YYYY
I heard rumor that Riikka and Petteri wants to cut half of those fighter jets. Then they would be quite small and can land anywhere
Nato tuottaa ilmastopäästöjä ihan liikaa.
Höps
go home
Indeed, russia should go home and stay there.
So you are using Finland as your playground? (like ukraine) How would you feel if we come with jets to your country? Put the politicians to the frontline.
No. They aren't using Finland as a playground. Finns invited the rest of the NATO forces to exercises in Finland to train on supporting Finland if Russia invades.
FYI NATO is a mutual defensive alliance and it isn't an imperialist force unlike Russia.
well, as a Finnish person I'm very happy that those US jets are training in Finland. They are welcome to do so as often as they like! I'm also extremely pleased that Finland will get two Nato headquarters; one in the south and one in the north. Receiving Nato Forward land forces is also very welcome news. As long as Russia stays on their own side of the border, everyone should be happy, right. I mean The Finnish have no problems with any of this, while the alliance members aren't really complaining either.
The only ones who could be angry about any of this are the ones who have malice against Finland and are considering hostile military action against our nation.
Russia has constantly told they aren't even thinking anything like that against Finland, so they shouldn't have any problems with any of this either, right...
Another Finn here, also welcoming our allies to play around here. After all, we have excellent facilities for these games. And what it comes to politicians, almost all of our (male) politicians have military training and if war broke out, some of them would be serving in the military. But more importantly, everyone has a job to do, politicians need to do politicians job.
Gy haum, Yankee skam. Teemu and Toivo from Pori
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Tyypillinen ryssää mielistelevä trolli.