6 Times the Bible Was Changed!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Has the Bible ever been changed or altered? Are there mistranslations in the Christian scriptures? Or has the message of the Bible been perfectly preserved through the centuries? Is there any evidence that the Bible has been tweaked or tampered with to promote an agenda or support an ideology? And when examining and comparing our oldest and most reliable Biblical manuscripts, do we find any variations between the texts? In this video, we'll explore the world of textual criticism as applied to the Bible to learn why some verses have been added to the Bible and why others have been removed from it.
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Video Chapters:
00:10 - Introduction
01:13 - Matthew 5:22 - EIKH Addition
02:35 - Diversity of Beliefs in Early Church
03:21 - 1 John 5:7-8 - The Johannine Comma
05:06 - 1 Timothy 3:16 - God Manifest in the Flesh
06:56 - Matthew 24:36 - Not Even the Son
07:25 - Luke 3:22 - Today I Have Begotten You
08:18 - Acts 8:37 - Confession of the Ethiopian Eunuch
08:53 - Outro
Sources Cited:
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@HolyKoolaid hey dude, obviously you do alot of videos about christianity but would you consider doing a video about islam? I would like to see it, and perhaps you would consider doing it with someone like apostate aladdin? If not totally cool but I think it could be a nice change of pace given how so many of your videos are about christianity and the bible
I like Apostate Alladin. Perhaps Thomas focuses on christianity as that has been the religion he was brought up in. Same goes for AA.@SuperM89
So the Ebionites were right?
Great final production Sir Thomas Sir! Kind thanks.
As an ex-Catholic it was fascinating learning how early Christians struggled with trying to figure out who Jesus was. It seems strange to me that god decided to live on earth to preach and yet didn't think it important to document his ministry so everyone and for all time would know how he wanted humans to live.
I grew up RomCat and went to a private catholic school in NYC and was taught about the existence of other religions in such a mocking tone that my deconstruction was almost completely narrated by my former indoctrinaters(sic). The blatant plagiarism, hypocrisy, and lack of anything resembling reality was highlighted so clearly.
Having the first story of a supposedly miraculous guy such as Jesus only written many years after he lived, died, and lived (also bringing many dead back to life with him) seems just so dumb now.
A couple of notebooks would have been useful....
@@ryshow9118 And now it's not just Catholic indoctrination - Americans seem to be mesmerised by people who profess religious belief and credit them with access to some profound truth about how to live - while watching them so often actually being swindlers, serial adulterers, fraudsters and on occasions even murderers.
@@tomschmidt381
Jesus was a poor illiterate Aramaic-speaking uneducated Nazarean villager, and tekton (wood worker, brick layer). A mortal man.
He was a quick-study apocalyptic preacher and an overzealous Jewish nationalist.
Knowing no Greek and being unlettered, over 30+ years, Jesus wrote NOTHING in the Bible.
Yes, despite his miraculous deeds, apparently the ability to write down his all-important eternal message for humanity was one that Jesus did not possess.
your Bible critique videos are so much easier to actually store in my long term memory than bland monologuing. Thank you for the quality videos.
Seeing all those little changes in the margins and to the text itself was so much more impactful than just reading about them, thanks for all your diligent research and hard work in making these videos!
There were no changes
@@YankeeDoodle2 make a video and show your proof
"Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone" is an obvious one. Great video, BTW, and great to have you back making them.
Ah yes, the pericopae adulterae is one of the most famous examples.
@@HolyKoolaid The adulterated adultery.
Second this one
Thank you for saying "Let _him_ " instead of "Let _he._ " (Personal pet peeve.)
@rloomis3 One of mine, too. And it's a misquotation.
I used to believe this for over 20 years, now I can't believe I couldn't see how obviously man made it really is.
Being brainwashed with bullshit sometimes works.
Same here.
@@gleanerman2195 Indeed. Luckily it can be reversed.
It is wild how much time, effort, and energy goes into sustaining various sacred myths around the world, especially since we require more and better evidence for even the most mundane questions (is my mechanic honest, is google maps made up or real, etc).
The Bible never been changed.... But congratulation now you believe the nothing atheism gives to you and to your life. You are so lost.
Religious people in general don't seem to hold honesty in high regard...
Modern Bibles are accurately copying the oldest manuscripts. I would say honesty is not an issue is it??
No, they don't, even when one of their laws specifically says not to lie!
Why was my reply deleted? I said if biblical scholars saw those mistakes and corrected them in future translations how is that being dishonest?
@@MrAndyhdz There are mistakes that where not corrected and that's more important.
@@Sparkypumps Damn, that's actually in there? The bible get's gayer and gayer.
It's as if the Bible is just a human inspired and human made collection of stories that mix facts and fiction.
Much of it was "borrowed" from earlier fables. Noah's Ark is one example.
@@James_Knott This is a simplistic interpretation. The stories of Noa and Utnapishim are derived from the same cultural tradition.
@@davidhoward4715 Also, I think a number of those myths were intentionally changed versions of similar myths in other traditions, in an effort to proclaim their own tradition to be better or mightier than the other.
That's what all religious texts and preachings are...Made Up tales that may have a few historical facts tossed in.
@@SparkypumpsThat’s needlessly harsh. Why?
I cant wait to get more wisdom, bring it on Holy Koolaid
"Of all human pursuits , the pursuit of wisdom is the most perfect , the most sublime ,the most useful , and the most agreeable" - Thomas Aquinas
Remember, "Original Sin" is knowledge. Fuck (metaphoricall) anything that tries to keep you stupid to its actions.
It most definitely has been changed because can we all say it together? God did not make Man In His Image. Man made God and / or Gods in His image.
Keep thinking you're the master of the universe as our world goes to crap around us.
Truer words have never been said.
@@MrAndyhdz keep making up arguments that nobody posited to argue against as you continue to avoid the evidence that contradicts your beliefs.
@@MrAndyhdz If the world is going to crap, what the hell is your God doing?
@@MrAndyhdz Who is claiming that they are "Master of the Universe"? If you need a reason for the world going to crap, look no further - Greed, Conservatism, and Religion. How's that for a trinity?
Hey Thomas! Love your videos like this, but I wanted to invite you on my podcast to discuss your video from 1 month ago. I am a big fan of anytime we can use just one scripture to show a simple but powerful point against christianity. I did send you an email, but now I'm being that annoying guy reaching out here, in case your email is as behind as mine.
Hey Brandon, I'm glad you followed up, because somehow your email got lost in my inbox. I just found it and will shoot you a reply shortly.
@@HolyKoolaid That will be awesome to see you and Brandon collaborate!! Love both of your channels!
Great team up!!!
@HolyKoolaid I would love to see you guys work together for a video or two. I'm a big fan of you both!
@@HolyKoolaid Wonderful. talk soon!
There are also the big discrepancies. Like that most scholars claim only 7 of the Pauline epistles were written by one person, presumably Paul, and 6 are forgeries. Or the original ending of Mark which ends with the women running away and telling no one. Or the woman caught in adultery in John, which I understand is not in our earliest copies.
Great examples. The long ending in Mark will be in part 2 of this series. :)
@@HolyKoolaid You might need to do a series: "The Few Times The Bible Was Actually Right."
@@johnnehrich9601What about comparing historic events to the Bible? Stick with New Tesiment. Much easier.😅
The Bible is the most vetted book in History. It's inspired by the Holy Spirit. ✝️
@@YECBIB Hahaha.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction; jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving, control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
-Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
The fact that a holy all-knowing and seeing god, would sit idly by and watch ppl tamper with his so called words baffles me.
I've grown to love the final phrase "Dare to be curious" more over time. It is through our curosity that we expand our knowledge and gain deeper insights into the world around us! Well done, @HolyKoolaid 😀
There's obviously more than just this, but my biggest takeaway from this is, "The KJV is the most purposefully altered of all versions, and it was so that the worst people can have any excuse they would ever want to be the worst."
And there are KJV purists who won't read any other version. -_-;
@@suicune2001 It's not as if they read their own version either. Even when they try to cite a passage from it, at least of half the time, it ends up being different from it actually says.
@@DavidRichardson153 Yep. Matthew 15 alone changed my ENTIRE view of Jesus and I was never really attached to the religion even though I grew up in a Christian household. But I do remember being told how impossibly nice he was. To see him confirm Yahweh WANTS us to unalive children, not wash our hands, not worry about what we eat, and then call a desperate woman begging on her knees a racial slur blew my mind. 😱😱😱 What little feeling of mysticism I had left was gone.
30k+ changes 😮
If I may make a suggestion for a follow-up video, perhaps mention how Goliath's height was supposedly changed from initially being a bit less than 7 feet tall to well over 9 feet tall.
Goliath in the bible is a 10th century Philistine.
But the bible dressed him as a 8th/7th century Greek Hoplite
@@fordprefect5304That's a down grade 😅
And then there is that embarrassing bit about Goliath being killed multiple times and by different people. e.g. "the brother of" is not in any original text, apologists inserted to cover their embarrassment.
interesting. I'd love for this to be a series where you go through a lot of the significant alterations.
Read Ehrman's _Misquoting Jesus._
Part 2 is in the works.
Why would an omnipotent, omniscient, all-wise, all-knowing god choose to pass on essential information using ... LITERATURE, written in languages that only a fraction of the human race could understand, when most people were illiterate, and that required copying by hand, distribution by pre-industrialized people, translation into hundreds of languages (with all the attendant problems that accompany it), and, most of all, INTERPRETATION by imperfect human beings? It makes no sense.
If God is / was truly omnipotent, he could have simply downloaded all the information directly into our brains, thereby making His will known to every human being on Earth. Notice this doesn't subsume free will, since we'd still be free to ignore His moral laws, just like many of us ignore our better judgement now.
But our brains couldn't handle all that knowledge! some Christians argue. Again, an omnipotent God could make our brains so that they COULD absorb it all.
Quite simply, God is a racist prick. He couldn't give a toss about the native peoples of the rest of the world, only his chosen brown friends of the middle east
And then came the biblical editing to push the agenda of whoever held the quill (or the scribe by the balls)😊
Some would argue that he has indeed implanted morality and compassion for others into our minds, and we still choose to ignore it and act selfishly and cruelly.
But it is an interesting point about very long term preservation of knowledge. How could critical information be preserved, not just for years or centuries, but for millennia? Even now: hard drives and tapes decay in pretty short order, computer systems change and records become unreadable, paper books rot or are lost (as this video points out), stone erodes, languages change and die out. So what is left? You can impart the stories and truths to a living people, who will recite it to their children and steep their culture in it. The languages will change as the people do, but the story and the truths will remain. I think if God is truly playing the long game with the human race, he knew what he was doing.
If he's all powerful, he has the ability to exercise or withhold his own power, no?
Matthew 24:14 was changed as the greek word “oikoumene” is a regional term meaning “roman world” not world (just like in Luke 2:1). It was mistranslated by the church in the third century after it failed as the gospels got throughout the Roman world but the end never came.
I've heard this claim before, but I haven't looked into the reliability of it yet. Do you happen to have a good source for this? Thanks.
@@HolyKoolaid I used the bible hub greek and compared the two verses. Then found an online citied academic paper by searching oxford greek dictionary oikoumene, which covers the words use through time.
Yeah, that's right: the "Ecumene" (oikoumene) is a reference to the so-called "Civilized world". I am amused when my Protestant relatives are using this version wrongly. They claim that since the Bible said that the world will end once the Gospel is finally preached to "every part of the world", they concluded that the end of the world will come once the tribes at Sentinel Island gets evangelized. Hilarious and dumb.
That section of verse from Acts 8:37 is the reason my dad, a Southern Baptist pastor was so staunchly against the NIV. He thought the NIV left out the bit about Jesus being the Son of God when it likely wasn't in there to begin with!
A good example of fundamentalists cherry-picking versions to support their own beliefs.
So what was the original, closest, like before the changes?😅
My favorite obvious change to the bible is 2 Samuel 21:19 which says that Elhanan slew "the brother of" Goliath, according to the KJV and also about half of modern versions. Other more honest versions leave out "the brother of", making an obvious contradiction by having Elhanan -- not David -- the person who slew Goliath, because our oldest texts didn't contain this phrase.
So why this difference in the text? It's probably because Elhanan was the guy who slew Goliath. The story of David and Goliath in 1 Samuel 17 contains some continuity errors that suggest it was later added to make David look better. For one, it's weird that Saul has no idea who "this youth" David is or who his father is (1 Samuel 17:55-58) given that he knew both just the chapter before (1 Samuel 16:18-22). Secondly, it's super weird that David carried Goliath's head to Jerusalem to Saul (1 Samuel 17:54, 57) given that the capital was not currently Jerusalem but in Gibeah (1 Samuel 15:34) because _they hadn't conquered Jerusalem yet._ That city wasn't even taken back by the Israelites until after David becomes king in 2 Samuel 5:6-7
Sounds like a whole video wrapped up in that convoluted story. Bring it on!
so sneaky that the evil christians would hide this and try and wipe it off the internet
Thank you for your continuing scholarship!
Your knowledge and the work you do never ceases to amaze me.
I don't know a whole lot. I'm just good at simplifying and communicating the things I learn from the actual experts in various fields.
@@HolyKoolaid
You might not be a scholar like the experts, but you know where to find the relevant information and how to process it. No matter what, I think you're awesome and unique and valuable and always worth listening to.
What a hot mess that collections of "books is, but as always good job and thank you.
The kind of religious people who think the Bible has never been changed/altered; are the people who also think: Jesus spoke English, was a white European looking guy, and that he loved America (a country that wouldn’t exist for almost 1,800 years on a distant continent he had no concept of).
The cognitive dissonance is strong with such people. 🙄
Sounds like the Council of the Unwise.😅
Christians have to be simpletons to blindly believe words that make no sense.
That's a long list of consequential assumptions bro
Thomas thank you for making this awesome content, it is so simple, high quality, and informative. You, Darkmatter2525, and NonStampCollector are horsemen of skeptics Animations! Please continue making this awesome content!
Thank you for the kind words and the donation. It means a lot and helps more than you know.
@@HolyKoolaid dude it's not the Christian fault. Go look at the mess that happened with the whole lucifer thing where in king James vision it's son of dawn but now it's moring star in newer prints. Someone been changing Christians bibles and lying about it. The same way they will try to change the fact we are spirits to just being a body thus brain instead of mind is what wholes the memories of a person not the brain. Because the spirit has a mind and the body has a brain. We are souls which means spirit and body combination look it up. We are spirits housing a body.
Mark 16:9-20 is pretty well known to be an addition and is even acknowledged in modern bibles as such. And it's easy to see why: If chapter 8 was the original ending and it ends with "Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid." then obviously some later scribe read that and thought to himself, "Well gee, if they never told anyone then how do we know about it?" and decided to "fix" the problem.
The fact that we do not have even a single original manuscript from which any bible is based on, but only much later copies of copies of copies etc then how can in any way know what the original words were? And why would God not make sure that those original words were preserved AS-IS?
I just wanted to point this out. But you already did 👍
And I don't know, I came across about an alleged alteration in John 14,13-14
13 And whatever you ask in My name, this I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
Verse 14 is different some translations. In some of them we are asked to ask Jesus directly, and in some other texts this is is different.
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
Your videos have helped me in my deconversion. Thank you
Please don’t deconvert! This video isn’t meant to tell anyone that the Bible is inherently wrong, just some funny mistakes the translators put in by accident. There are many reasons to believe the Bible, so please don’t!
And mostly Kjv stuff, but it’s quite an old translation anyway.
@@CatfoodChronicles6737 nah I’m good I had an abusive family
@@3up3rn0va Just because you have an abusive family who were coincidentally Christian doesn’t change anything about faith; if the family was Atheist, you wouldn’t try to flee to religion, would you?
Fascinating. Thank you.
I see an increasing emphasis on belief as the Bible goes on.
I moved away from Catholicism a few years ago and managed to get through the post-conversion depression (thank goodness!). But the recent difficulty I'm finding is my parents doubling down on their belief, and are relentlessly trying to convert me back. They have good intentions but it's a frustrating dynamic to have with two people you're very fond of. There's a conflict in my mind wherein I'm pleased they have their community around them and the comfort they get from practising their faith, particularly given they are now of a certain age, but sometimes I just want to point out the issues I see with the religion so they realise my soul doesn't need saving from the eternal fires of hell. Wondered if anyone has or is experiencing anything similar.
People who are in a cult always think they are doing right by trying to make you part of it. My father was cross with me when I stopped attending church but, died losing his faith, face down in his bible, realizing the lies he was told that weren't actually in the scripture. So, if more people actually read what they say they believe in, there would be less zealots in the world.
Grew up Presbyterian, and at age 16 I started realizing that it all didn't make sense. I grew up in a very religious area and I was an outcast for my lack of not believing anymore. My parents refused to consider it for a long time that I didn't believe it anymore. Not just my parents but most of my family are religious which makes it very hard to speak my mind anytime religion comes into the conversation. Everyone is allowed to state their beliefs and views on religion they are allowed to claim ridiculous, false theories but if I ever try to bring to light that they are wrong or there might be some inaccuracies. I am attacking their faith and an asshole. My parents are getting older and more zealot in their beliefs, part of me wants to leave them alone and avoid all conversations of religion with them. However, sometimes I feel like I am suffocating because they will say stuff, especially to my kids, brainwashing them and I can never say anything without being bad. Not being able to have a voice in your own family feels terrible.
Yes, best to avoid religious conversations - it's a lost cause. Your children are your priority.
To counteract your parents opinions to your kids, encourage stories and watch films about Greek,Roman, Asian etc, mythology - which were originally a blend of historical events and superstitious religious beliefs anyway.
European Fairy, Egyptian tales, etc
About 12, l was reading lots of Poe and books such as The Odyssey, Frankenstein, etc.
I was taught in RC schools by priests and nuns so considered disruptive 😅
At 18, got my 1st passport so that l could travell to see all the countries that had the architecture, statues, artworks, locations, that l read about in these books.
Literally, would look for professions that allowed me to do this - Croupier, flight attendant , courier , etc .
Hope this helps somewhat.
After being nagged by my parents to return to church I quipped "Church is a great place to pick up chicks but its too early in the morning on a Sunday." The badgering stopped.
There were several councils of Church officials that worked to establish a final, official version of the Bible, and some were summoned by or sponsored by rulers like Constantine, who had political motives in text selection and correction.
Constantine, was a brutal warlord? Or simply trying to define his faith? Who knows?😊
@@hackman669The Bible was created in AD 382, long after Constantine.
it's incredible how much people want to lie to themselves just to be able to indulge in whatever they want for hedonism. it's literally fiction you're writing here from the da vinci code author.
Great videos! Thank you.
Wonderful video. Have heard of some of these alterations before but it is another thing to see actual examples. As many of your videos, very concise and clear. Thanks for your work.
Thank you I’m not an atheist but do enjoy your content. I think it’s important to remind us that the Bible was written by faulty humans and not dropped directly from heaven.
There's a Mel Brooks video about the -15- 10 commandments. Apparently there were originally 15, but he dropped a tablet, leaving only 10. Check out his History of the world, part 1. 🙂
Then you are not a true christian, you should believe it is the true word of god.
The Bible was definitely written by faulty humans. That is evidence that we shouldn't believe it.
@@gleanerman2195 Only by your definition of a "true Christian."
@@kevinmorin7674 The works of Tacitus were written by a faulty human. Should we dismiss the "Histories" and the "Annals"?
This might be a new change, but I've seen a few versions change Deuteronomy 22:28-29. The main change being they don't say it's rape, but they lie together unmarried. I'm guessing this just a new change and not something that was changed a long time ago.
This sounds like fundamentalists fiddling with the text to justify their own prejudices.
I think it's a translation change, rather than any change to the Hebrew at any point. There is a characteristically hefty footnote in the NET translation that explains the two different ways of interpreting it.
Yes, part 2 please! It is extremely fascinating to see how the texts got tempered with. Keep up the good work!
Excellent video thanks. Keep up the good work.
Another excellent video, HK.
Glad you enjoyed it
When christians claim that the bible is perfect and inerrant, they should be asked "Which bible?" The one with 66 books? The one with 73 books? The one with 81 (or 82) books? Or the one with 84 books?
Hard to claim a book is inerrant when there are literally a dozen different versions of it, some 20% longer than others. So, which bible is inerrant? And, evidence please.
Well clearly the one that God placed in their local Christian book store that now sits on their mantle place.
@@HolyKoolaid Thank you for helping me with that confusion. I wanted to make sure that I bought the right bible that I was never going to read.
Each one claims their own version is correct. Just as each Muslim claims his own version of the Koran is the correct one.
@@petercollins7730 As an atheist, I have made it my responsibility to read the Bible. I don't criticize anything I have not bothered to research.
@@davidhoward4715 I have found that 99% of the apologists and christians I talk to have not read the bible, beyond whatever was spoonfed to them by some minister.
I read the bible cover to cover, and have read it, less the 'begats' twice more. I think the best way to deconvert any rational, thoughtful christian is to get them to read the whole bible.
@HolyKoolaid Matthew 28:19 (Baptismal Formula) was not original to the text of Matthew, "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." The phrase in the text "In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" was inserted in the 4th century.
Who inserted it?
Source please? That is good info if true and properly supported.
Nope. That’s a myth made up by oneness Pentecostals.
The “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” bit didn’t show up until the 12th century CE.
Great video! And that quote at the end from Carl Sagan is something I'm definitely saving! Looking forward to a part 2!
Once again, terrific job. You've covered a lot of changes already (although as you said, there are plenty more). The biggest change not mentioned in this video (imo) is the ending of Mark. I wrote a (too long) comment on your last video about how that particular change is what started me as a then-missionary down the path towards eventually seeing Christianity as the man-made religion that it is, but suffice to say knowing that the earliest written gospel originally ended with three mourning women taking the word of a random man that the reason Jesus' body was missing was that he'd risen from the dead, followed by those women fleeing the scene in fear and "telling no one" what they'd seen changes a lot. No eyewitness accounts of Jesus being alive after having been crucified, for one thing, is a pretty big change (and if those accounts had actually occurred, it makes zero sense they would have been omitted from a book whose sole purpose was to document Jesus' life/death based on a desire to support/spread Christianity).
So the changes to the end of Mark and their potential influence on the whole basis of Christianity would be my recommendation. I mean, if really thinking through the consequences of those changes was enough to start a pentecostal missionary down the path towards reconsidering Christianity as a whole, maybe it could reach some other Christians, too. I also think it helps that this change in particular is so well documented as to actually be noted as a footnote in certain popular versions of the Bible (including the NIV). This could help some Christians give it more weight than other changes, since they can look it up in their own Bible rather than taking the word of a random non-Christian in a YT video. Obviously they could do their own research to validate all the other changes you've mentioned, but some may need that initial support from information found within their actual Bible to get them started down the path of looking up those other things.
Regardless, I love and appreciate the work you're doing. It's so important. Thank you for sharing what you know in such an easy-to-understand format.
I'm thrilled to see you back and creating top-tier content again!
If you're reading this, are you planning to continue The Story of Life playlist?
Episode 3 announced an upcoming episode 4 that never followd up.
Personally, I would love to see more episodes on The Story of Life. It was so well delivered and I often share those videos with others because it's the most concise and insightful way of explanation towards abiogenesis I've ever encountered. It would be great to see a continuation of that series.
I've never met a "BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN" that wasn't a criminal at heart........
Or with a past damn near requiring some "born again" type blind eye.
I was once mistaken as a member of the 3c Church. a member of the church started with a white supremacy rant and end with a suggestion so offensive I thought about reporting this man to the police before he acted out his church inspired believes.
Well done! Clear, concise, illustrative! And the motive, too.
One infamous (but funny) edition you didn't include was Myles Coverdale's 1535 Bible, aka "The Bug Bible". Apparently Psalms 91 reads "Thou shall not nede to be afrayed for eny bugges by night".
I've always said religions and its gods are a creation of the people not the other way.
Thanks!
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I've been looking into Mormonism a little bit and talk about having to change things, hahaha!
Always pleased to see one of your videos drop man
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for your kind words and for your generosity.
Huh. This is an interesting video. I'm actually really glad I came across it! Great upload!
My favorite will always be from the Vulgate: Is 14: 12-14 "How art thou fallen from Heaven, o Lucifer, o Son of the morning. How art thou cut to the ground, that didst lay low the nations." This line here is the justification for the fall of Lucifer and the war in heaven. But its not the original line.
The "Lucifer" part was either added or replaced the mentioning of The Day Star of Babylon, either its king or its deity Helel, whom Isaiah was condemning in the text. But St Jerome had a purported beef with a Bishop named Lucifer, who was against his vernacular translation of the scripture, so he subbed in his rival's name and started a heavenly rebellion. To this day I check every bible I come across to see how they translate this line. Aside from KJV, which has Lucifer in it, all the other ones either reference Day Star or have a note mentioning that the line is often misattributed to Lucifer when it refers to Helel. Oxford Study Bible, Jerusalem Bible, the "Good New Bible" I read as a kid- ALL of them call this change out. Srsly, this is the only time Lucifer is ever mentioned in a chunk of bibles. They usually call him "HaSatan," which can mean adversary OR accuser. He is not named.
This is what being a teenage satanist taught me- Lucifer is not HaSatan. And the story of the fall that's been repeated to me since I was a kid? Either pulled from non-canonical Enoch, or is openly talking about Iblis, which is from Islam.
The Bible has had over 1000 different versions each modifying itself into the nonsens with is now… from already a buncha nonsense.
That's just a lie
@@KentuckyBrad dude there’s like 50 different version of the Bible saying different things in circulation today you can just go to a Bible store and figure this out
Many years ago I read "Misquoting Jesus" by Professor Bart D. Ehrman, and have recommended and even gifted it many times since.
Thank you so very much for the video.
Not sure many people have read Robert G. Price's (not Robert/Bob M. Price) book Deconstructing The Gospels, where he shows OT verses used to craft NEW stories in the NT. One of the most interesting I found was the bit about the clearing of the temple. As Price says, this incident is in all four gospels, and many secular scholars think this probably actually happened, even if Jesus was just an ordinary dude. This incident is used as a major part of why the authorities decided to execute Jesus. In other words, this is one of the most vital plot points to move the story forward.
The problem is that the temple grounds consisted of about 35 football fields worth of space, filled with thousands of venders, pilgrims, priests, animals, and TEMPLE GUARDS who were stationed there for the express purpose of preventing any such disruptions. Jesus would have been able to only turn over a few tables before he would have been summarily cut down by a guard's sword. Nor could this have been a band of zealots, as they ALL would have been slaughtered, as violent and peaceful protests had happened at other times.
Price points out Hosea 9, where it appears Mark got his inspiration:
10: Like grapes in the wilderness, I found Israel. Like the first fruit on the fig tree.
15: Because of the wickedness of their deeds, I will drive them out of my house.
16: Ephraim is stricken, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit.
Mark wraps the cursing of the fig tree (as symbolic that the time of the temple cult was over - out of season - and no longer "bore fruit," around the story of the clearing of the temple. (Jesus curses the fig trees, goes psycho on the temple grounds, comes back past the withered fig tree.)
But if this event, the overturning of the tables, never happened, what was the initial reason to kill Jesus? (It was only under questioning that Jesus did not deny he was King of the Jews so that can't be the initial reason.)
The research into this topic was absolutely massive. I am impressed by all of this.
I think what God meant to say was ...
Fantastic video I loved getting to see the old documents that was so helpful!
I like it how «the father, the WORD and the holy ghost» have become «the father, the SON and the holy ghost»... At least in French, it's «le père, le fils et le saint esprit».
Notice how, in the Greek manuscripts, there are no separation between words, all the text is single case and there is zero punctuation.
The ending of Mark... That should take a while to unpack
My Bible App contains 50 English versions of the Bible. A Wikipedia article lists over 100 English Versions. Which is God’s inspired word? Or are they all the words of men?
When I was a kid I realized that my family thought the Messiah would come someday save everyone at the end of time but my friends families thought the Messiah was already here and dead but would come back to save everyone at the end of time.
Some thought God had one part but my other friends thought three.
They all seemed pretty sure of it, but they never could tell me why time would need to end, or how they knew it would.
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I got in trouble a lot for asking questions. 😁😅🤣
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The biggest most glaring example that you had missed was when Martin Luther published the bible for the masses.
He left out seven entire books intentionally.
And one passage about entering into heaven "by faiths and works"
Luther had changed to "by faith alone"
So yeah, as soon as you get to the KJV which was preceded by Luther's version....you see editing on a massive scale. Why? Because of Henry the VIII. It was politically expedient.
Languages are inherently diverse in secondary meanings and are incomplete in others. For example how many times have you heard why does language X have no word for Y in my language. Many languages have semi equivalent words which have multiple near meanings with multiple more specific words for more specific situations.
Good work sir!👊
This video should’ve been titled, “10 Times the New Testament Was Changed.” We need another, longer series of videos on the times the Old Testament was changed.
Well done.
Over a thousand years of lies and corruption being laid bare before the eyes of the world via the internet. It's beautiful.
I would love a video on how common man made religions are to others. Like Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, budism, ect-
Like whats the differences or similarities in most :0
You are right with everything, except calling Islam man made. Unlike the Bible, the Quran is the same. The early Muslims memorized the whole book as it was revealed and it was recited daily, if someone tried to change it people called him out and set it straight. All of this is documented. U can google it yourself bro.
the gospels have the same level of antiquity as any other greco roman biography written around jesus' time. islam formed from a christian sect that downgraded jesus to a prophet by the name MHMD (messiah) and then it snowballed into its own thing. hinduism and buddhism have no historical biographical basis
Never forget the BIG one..the Council Of Nicea, which removed the "reality" and put in the "supernatural " in that book of myth
Love you videos! Thank you!
fabulous! Here's my favorite Matthew 24:15 “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand)" - how did Jesus know it was going to be written? Makes it sounds like someone was following him around and writing down the utterances.
It is a very nice video, I liked it.
However, we should keep in mind that errors in later copies don't exclude the belief that the NT of the Holy Bible never was God's actual words originally, only that copies were made by imperfect (and often selfish) humans.
Noone alive heard what the Evangelists or Our Lord Jesus have actually said. Or what the Evangelists or their follower-scribes originally wrote down. Of course not.
And the earlier surviving copies also date much later after all the apostles have died.
And today Christianity is split into a gazillion different branches and sects. Non Christian religions have also heavily "borrowed" from it.
And today too many versions of the scriptures exists, not only because of different translations made into different languages over two millennia.
I studied church history in seminary when I was still a Christian. It was eye opening to learn about all of the division and uncertainty of all the religious groups especially when it came to determining the relationship of God the Father to God the Son and God the Spirit. Some thought father and son were equal. Some thought son was under the father. The virgin mary was a doctrine that came about to protect the divinity of Jesus. If Jesus had a human mother, could he be divine? It makes sense when you study it in history and how it developed.
Let's not forget that Christ cults existed as far back as 300 BCE and Constantine knew about them. Saying his mother was Christian...yeah, umm, WHICH one of the Christianities? As soon as Constantine declared the new State Religion he needed a few things...namely to wipe out the other Christianities and their texts and their followers. Caligula was part of the previous dynasty and had claimed to be the son of a Roman god. (didn't set welll with the conservative Priest class of the time)
So then...well Caligula needed to have a Paul to bridge the gap between this Jewish leader cult and Roman mythology and Roman ways. And voila, "The writings suddenly appeared."
And then we have The Flavian Popes (the first popes) and also other branches like the Ethiopian Branch...as this thing already had a few hundred years to take off.
The number of things written for the conveniences of the Romans is astounding.
Then we had the Bible Contents Decided by Committee. Yup. The "inspired word of god" was decided by committee.
They cherry picked and argued over what would be in it.
Then declared it a heresy to have a different opinion. Then they executed the heretics for thought crimes and word crimes.
It's almost like every passage is written in shed innocent blood because of the ambitions and egos of men.
Just 6 changes is a laughably short list of changes to this supposed unerring word of their god. The entire thing was concocted in controversy. And the people promoting it didn't have faith in the "truth" because if they did they would not have slaughtered anybody who disagreed with them and would not have burnt all the documents they could.
You can be sure that the reason we don't find any first century or very many second century documents is because, well, Rome was everywhere and they were BURNT. There were too many people doing their own thing and having their own beliefs and ... as with all religions....people making a bunch of shit up to suit their desires.
I'm amused at how you make up history to condemn a made-up book.
"Christ cults existed as far back as 300 BCE and Constantine knew about them"???? Seriously? 300 BCE? I don't think so.
bro invented his own lore
You can always hit the obvious ones like the long ending to Mark and the story of the woman at the well. Most people already know about them, but maybe add them for completion?
I am not sure if it is true, but might be worth looking into ... I had heard the part of the bible that says 'Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live' was King James interpretation of the original 'Thou shalt not suffer a poisoner (or murderer) to live', depending on the language ... 'witch' was added because of Jame's obsession with witches and he always thought witches were out to get him
In that case I hope the witches won. 😅
Excellent video!
Hell yeah!
Nice job, thanks!
This video demonstrates that the discipline of textual criticism is worthwhile. This is exactly the kind of work that believing Christians participate in regularly. Yes, there are fundamentalist KJV only independent types, but who cares. Nothing in this video calls into question the reliability of the Bible. In fact, it confirms that there are methods by which we can confidently affirm the most likely original reading.
If I can make a sincere one thing I disliked about this video is the speed in some of the parts. I could barely read the text, let alone compare the 2 versions provided. I do not pretend that you slow it down too much but giving the reader a couple of seconds more to follow would’ve been nice (ok, I can also stop the video and read ir, I know, but when I watch a video so interesting like yours, I like to enjoy the flow of it). Just a simple thought. Otherwise, amazing video!
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.) So the bible lies LOL!!!
I really enjoy your logical approach to the dubious nature of today's bibles. As they say, the fasted way to become an atheist is to read the bible which is exactly what I did. It certainly is an eye opening experience when you don't have a member of the clergy looking over your shoulder and explaining away the inconstancies.
Lol dude. As a Christian, this is talked about widely in the churches I attend. We talk a lot about what the best scholars have to offer. This is not something we hide at all.
I would be very interested to know what criteria you use to decide on which side of any debate to land on. Could it be just ‘whatsoever feel in your heart’ ? The concept of the trinity is fairly central to Christianity. Thats why Islam can make so many converts, one god is a much easier idea to grasp.
@@romnarz344I'm not sure conversion to Islam does indeed outpace conversion to Christianity. And if it does, I'd wager the reasons are complex, and involve social circumstance much more than theology.
Having said that, as an outsider, I've always been fascinated by the question of why early(ish) Christians landed on the concept of the Trinity, and specifically final formulation of the Trinity as we have it (with all 3 being co substantial and the father somehow begetting the son without creating him). It seems to me to be the most complicated and incomprehensible formula one could conceive of.
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official Yes, and some have pointed out that this is an indirect support for the Trinity, in a sense "too complex and against our intuition to make up." Kind of like how we struggle with quantum mechanics, with its wave behavior and particle behavior and instant action at a distance, yet are forced to deal with it because it is what matches reality.
This is hardly a proof of a doctrine, but it is at least consistent with the idea that "If you, as a human being, got a glimpse of the nature of the source of all reality - would you really expect to fully understand it?"
@@CT-pi2gl The difficulty with that proposition is that we can see the development of the Trinity in the historical record. It did not arise ex-nihilo, but rather was negotiated between Christians with, initially, wildly different positions on the nature of Jesus. We can trace the debates and their positions as they nail down certain aspects of Christology that had previously been in flux.
Great job. Well researched and brilliantly delivered. Highlight some very important issues. I’m sure I’ll bring them up in conversation!
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The conclusion of Mark and probably the eighth chapter of John.
So God sends his son, which is really himself actually, to teach people stuff, is unable to do so, has endless power, still is caught and killed, some are amazed by his ways, some ignore him, others are against him. He knows very little about hygiene, he doesn't write anything, his suporters are simple men, he is born in a religion which he doesn't fully accept...and he is supposed to have built the entire Universe.... interesting stuff
I'm an atheist, and this sort of nonsense embarrasses me.
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There are dozens of competing Bibles to this day.
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Imagine being a 1st cetury forger. Youre one of 5 people around who can read and write. You have this made. No one will ever know.
2000 years later..."they used a different ink"
Only 6? Really? And the changes you describe are trivial. What about the change from Greek to Latin in general? What about the massive editorial butchery of the nascent Catholic church? What about the transition from an oral to written tradition when hardly anyone could read, much less write?
King James version contains mythological creatures that later were removed.
Reminds me of the comic strip where a new monk is copying text and finds an error. He goes through the archives, back to the original text and he starts banging his head on the table, "CELEBRATE! It said CELEBRATE!"
Addition of the book of Revelations (4th or 5th century CE?). Love your videos.