Thomas, You are very, "generous," with Biblical dating, perhaps to the point of inaccuracy. With no contemporanious references to the Temple of Solomon in the New Testament it is leading more scholars to date Mark after 70 AD. With the conspicuous apologetics woven into John, I suspect a much later date than the synoptic gospels (and a lot of scholars). They catch up eventually. Ehrman is evolving. Not long ago he refused to identify as atheist, preferring, "agnostic."
I doubt that most atheists [in Western Christian dominated countries] have spent significant time on the Bible at all, and certainly not on the early history of the Bible And I don't see any requirement to do so either.
Exactly, That they don't understand eye witnesses accounts are not good evidence, Eye witnesses even get knocked off, as if they are not around their accounts can't be submitted as evidence.
Your average Atheist believes that the Bible is a complete human fiction from its inception. The fact that it has been altered over time by humans should not impact an Atheist's view of the Bible.
@@joachimschoder For purely academic reasons I find the history of the Bible fascinating. How religious syncretism and influences of Roman and Mediterranean culture altered this ancient Hebrew religion into this apocalyptic religion just peaks my interest. Your probably correct though most Atheists probably have no interest.
@@joachimschoder Perhaps not most, but a lot of us know the bible better than any christian, and don't forget that a massive percentage of atheists were superchristians who wanted to be the best gosh durn plum-diggety christians they could be and read the bible cover to cover and realized what a pile of garbage it is. The rest of us learn more simply by assimilation and, often, as a direct response to having bible quotes tossed at our heads by clueless cultists when we know, _trivially,_ how often the bible disproves itself. It's not a *_requirement,_* but after a couple years of getting Psalm 14 thrown at you you're gonna want a Matthew 5:22 to fling back.
All of these Christian churches, especially the evangelical churches, that claim the Bible is inerrant and without error either have no idea what they're talking about, are purposefully misleading people, or both.
If one accepts the premise that any "organized religion" is first and foremost a political body centered around control. it's easier to understand. It's both.
Bible verse Malachi 3:1 Whenever, people get corrupted previous message from God and God sends a new messenger. That is the reason to accept prophet Mohammad messenger and Quran.
People always assume I became an atheist because "someone hurt me" but the real reasons are mostly because I loved and studied the Bible and its origins.
Right?! I was Christian when I was a kid, and I'm naturally curious, so I kept digging. Now I'm an atheist, I love learning about the Bible, its history, how it evolved and how it takes roots in other ancient beliefs. That's absolutely fascinating.
Constantine did not make Christianity the official religion, he legalized Christianity. It was his grandson Theodosious the Great who made it the official religion.
@@whatevername8551ooh, that's an interesting point. I think he had a rapport with the Christians, so he could've been trying to create unity with his supporters. If they go to the parish ,he is doomed.
As a former Evangelical Christian Pastor your videos have been helpful in my deconstruction from the ridiculous beliefs I once held! It’s nice to be free from mythical beliefs!
Wrong timing,covid was the white horse of the apocalypse,we are in the pre- tribulation,the black horse is coming soon,economic depression,the red horse is war,and by 2030 the pale horse is in full swing for 7 years,right after the rapture.have you not seen the symbolic Satanist opening of the Olympic?
This video is *so* important. As an ex-missionary (of the Pentecostal variety), learning the true history of the Bible was what initially caused me to begin questioning my faith. The biggest hit for me was learning about the addition/extension of the book of Mark (the earliest written gospel and one of the primary sources for the other gospels). Considering how different Christianity might be today if it had been based on the original text was mind blowing to me. I mean, if you rely on the oldest available version of Mark, it essentially ends with three mourning women taking the word of a random young man that the reason Jesus' tomb was empty was because he rose from the dead. Rather than questioning this man further or considering a more likely reason for a dead body's disappearance (like someone stealing/moving the body.... perhaps even the man they encountered there?), the women left the tomb and *told no one* what they saw. The end. If Jesus had actually been raised from the dead and seen alive by loads of people after being so publicly executed, that would be a rather odd thing for the author of Mark to leave out of a book whose entire purpose was to catalogue the major events of Jesus' life, right? But you never hear pastors share this info with their congregations, and very few Christians ever learn about or think this through, despite several versions of the Bible (including the NIV) including a footnote that literally explains that the earliest versions of Mark end after verse 8 of chapter 16 (after the phrase "Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid."). This - along with other aspects of the Bible's history that nearly all Christian scholars agree upon - changed everything for me. I had been taught that the Bible was the inerrant, unchanging word of God. I had been taught that you couldn't even have a stable sense of right vs wrong without an unchanging foundation like the Bible to base it on. I had been told repeatedly that the fact that the Bible existed for so long without changing was one of the major proofs of the truth / divine inspiration of what it contained. Realizing that the Bible had undergone hundreds of thousands of changes, some of which were *incredibly* significant, was the first and most important card which, when removed along with many others, caused the whole house to fall. As noted in this video, changing one's entire worldview isn't easy. I underwent a years long process of ruthlessly chasing down every bit of evidence-based knowledge I could find - a process which continues to this day. I've realized that the whole premise of having an "unchanging foundation" upon which to base one's morals is incredibly dangerous specifically because it does not allow for adjustments based on new evidence, no matter how strong. I struggled the first few years with readjusting my view on life, but I'm much happier now. I no longer have to shut down my natural curiosity. I've given myself permission to look up answers to random questions, and learned *so many* cool things as a result. And I welcome evidence that may conflict with my current beliefs, because - rather than fear it - I view it as another opportunity to learn. Life is better when you're open to new information. Hopefully this video can help start others down a similar path. It may be hard, but man is it worth it!
Glad you made it out. It's amazing how all it takes is one small crack in the dam when you're taught that not one jot of tiddle will ever change. Stay curious.
My experience is similar to yours. My life changed completely, & for the better. I'm comfortable not knowing everything & learning new things. I also welcome challenges to my beliefs. I'm interested in what's actually true, not in what I hope is true. Edited for misspelling
@@IheartDogs55 Well said. Glad you found your way out of Christianity and its black and white world of "blind faith." The real world is much more colorful, nuanced, and frankly, interesting. Learning new things (without fear that they may contradict a predetermined set of beliefs) is so much fun. ETA: Love your username. Dogs are pretty awesome, too.
I grew up in catholic school starting in preschool. By 2nd grade I was questioning my faith. By 5th grade there were no more questions. It was quite clear that what I was being taught was not true. I argued tooth and nail during religious class all through middle school. My teachers hated me.
@@Recitationn_of_Qurann I don't need any other fairytale to believe in. If the Greek gods were not real, neither are any of the other ones. I'll stick to science, The Satanic Temple, and Chuck Palahniuk; thank you.
@@Soundbrigade You'll have to ask Josephus Flavius about that one. If anyone has an attendance list then it has to be him since he invented most of the Jebus myth.
When I was getting my degree at a Jesuit University I had to take three semesters of Theology. That is when I had a professor explain that the bible was written by those to reflect their period. Things were taken out or added to meet a certain narrative they wanted.
When I was studying Latin, my Jesuit professor admitted that Our Lady was simply Isis, the mother of Horus. He suggested that I compare the iconography of Jesus with Serapis. He conceded that all of my inflammatory criticisms of Roman Christianity were correct. I love Jesuits...
@@afwalker1921do you mean that Jesus had no mother? According to the Bible, he did not have a father, but you seem to be implying one step further.. 🥴 In Europe Christian practices adapted to _replace_ the local religious practices. Days of pagan celebration became Christian holidays. The worshipping of saints replaced the pantheon of gods: there are saints to heal disease, others are worshipped to guarantee a good harvest, etc. A few days ago the Archbishop of Belgorod called its inhabitants to pray the "local" Saint to protect them against Ukrainiens attacks (and misguided Russian bombs..) Christianity is morphing back to its pagan's origins. I find it very likely that the same happened in Egypt: the story was "restyled" to match the local culture and fuse with it. Some of the Bible sections that appear odd to us might be remnants of the ancient religion of Egypt. The monotheistic Christian religion has an incredible talent for polymorphism. 🧐
@@pascalmartin1891 No, sir! I am going two steps further! I am saying that the Son of Heaven is a carryover from pharonic paganism, that your dude IS the sacred son of Isis. The Ptolomaic version of this was a hybrid god called Serapis. I would suggest you look into this. Serapis is Jesus with a bowl of wheat on his head. All of this is silly, and better left to the distant past. Anything that can make everything needs nothing from you, not blood, not belief, not obedience, not anything. If your god wants blood, you are worshiping something other than the Creator, and you should be careful... free your mind...
@@mikey1305 My source was this Jesuit, my Latin professor! He made those connections for me. He also told me that his worship of the Christ was a homosexual adoration of the "penetrated man", which might be what the current pope has been complaining about, the problem in the semenaries. Dude blew my mind! I wish you could talk to him, but he died of HIV/AIDS in the middle 80's...
The research doesn't prove the claims are true. It is full of opinions and speculation. This is the problem with all the atheist videos. They rely on sources that are fallible to say that the Bible is fallible. I can research night and day, but I have no reason to trust the things I read.
The septuigent....read by a classic Greek philologists who studies medical texts, not a Bible scholar. It's not quite as bunk when they read it. It's just full of cult drugs and fuqt up shyt. It's quite...fadcinating....when they read about Ezekiel's medicinal earth tablets...wait, what? I thought it was flying wheels, with eyeballs, and animals with 4 heads!!! Lol, nope. In greek, it's a medicinal earth tablets coated in 4 layers of animal poison. 🤷♂️
Or simply ask your priest or religious teacher in school why they don't mention specific parts like God selling his people into slavery multiple times, killing innocent people etc.
@Sabo__90 yeah, old testament stuff doesn't phase them. You gotta use new testament stuff, like Jesus being served by a little naked boy in Mark 14:51-52. Nobody EVER remembers the little naked boy. 😬
Many of these comments remind me of my sales training days - heavy on prepared responses, and thin on actual substance. It’s more evidence that being faced with data that conflicts with your closely held beliefs (whatever you’re selling) doesn’t change your mind - it just demands you add more magic, mystery, and a dash of passive aggressive ad hominem to prop it up.
👍👍Couldn't have said it better. I don't spend much time on the comment section but I was sick the other day and decided to waste a few hours reading comments on Atheist and skeptics channels. I gave up on humanity. I didn't know human beings could be that gullible ....but then, it's religion we're talking about .
@@tklyte me too. I pulled a muscle in the lower back. So i went looking for mind candy and then got sucked back into the comments section. Believers comments remind me of myself when I was in my late teens and early 20s. They have been presented so much as true within the confines of their bubble it is difficult to answer questions presented. They then lash out. They also do not understand why we care so much. They fail to see how we free thinkers prefer to have supernatural claims and dogmas kept out of our legislation. The powerful are always using religion as a way to of control and so we are always on guard.
@@wileynowling and we must remain vigilant. Religion in flailing like fish out of water because it's losing on all sides (thanks to the Internet mostly) It's not going to fold without a fight, hence the intensified pushback from Evangelicals and other cults. They're pushing back hard, therefore we must push forward even harder.
@@tklyte that is my impression. Their numbers are dwindling faster than sociology can keep up with. The evangelicals specifically are dying a death by a thousand cuts. And aligning with Trump has pushed the casually curious away. They say you are the company you keep. I was out of the church way back when the idiot was doing season 1 of his TV show. I was still shocked to see the majority of so called followers of Christ back a vile human being who brags about sexually assaulting women. To me that shows the real character of a person. Who they choose to support or keep company with.
@@adryanclay as a kid we had an option religious classes or "outside activities" classes. All the way from the first grade to the last year of high school I went to those religious classes. The more I listend the less it all made sense in general. In those twelve years of schooling I've never heard so many potayto potahto stories that mention how god is good after curing a guy possessed by demons (seizures) that caused him to twitch uncontrollably, or some forms of cancers disappearing on their own miraculously (majority of the population knows that cancers are really bad, but everyone has a limited understanding)etc. Point being, religion is kind of a manipulative scam that easily exploits people with less knowledge, and it gives them a false hope, literally like Carl Marks said " religion is opium of the masses and when ground stops providing they'll look up into the sky" not to mention theocracies that formed when someone said they saw god in their closet or under the bed so we should mindless follow that dude ... it horrible
Your right! It is a fairytale! Boy you sure a genius! Wow can't believe this lil book about some random Carpenter (of whom we have more evidence existed than we should for any random peasant), fooled the world for so long! Your smarter than about half the population alive (Christians and Muslims, the Quran says to follow the Bible, somewhat)! Your smarter than Isaac Newton (a devout Christian)! Unless maybe just because the Bible doesn't fit into your view of the world, doesn't mean it's not true??? And maybe all the billions of witnesses across the world right now aren't just completely insane?
I’m a Christian. Just to ask this real quick. How do you explain when people dying they see Jesus and heaven and things like that if it’s not real. Also people who have had near death experiences who are unconscious such when under surgery from anesthesia and yet when they die temporarily they can explain the the doctor they saw everything in the room and saw there own body. That shows proof of some existence of consciousness after death
Heck, the Catholic Church deliberately altered the 10 Commandments to fit their agenda. The Jewish and Protestant 10 Commandments have the original version. So when they want to place the 10 Commandments everywhere, my first thought is “Which Version?” That’s with a simple comparison. How much alteration was performed without means of comparison? Great video as always.
@@elihinze3161 Yes they dropped the second Commandment about Graven Images (since that’s a big part of their business model) and split the Coveting Commandment into two parts to keep it 10. 9-Coveting wife, 10-Coveting goods. So if they altered the (alleged) direct word of god to suit their needs… They also deliberately changed the word “maiden” to “virgin” in Isaiah to make it fit the Gospel narrative. Both words are very different from each other and it is very hard to confuse them. Again, this can be easily verified in any Jewish Bible.
Its worse than that the set we call the 10 commandments are not the ones the bible calls the 10 commandments and says are written on the stone tablets the only commandments in common are dont worship other gods dont make idols and dont work on the sabbath see Exodus 34.
@@mattm8870 yes, absolutely correct. I was merely pointing out the alteration to the “10 Commandments” that people are familiar with. Like you said, the named 10 Commandments are very different. Apparently boiling a kid (baby goat) in its mother’s milk is far more abominable than owning slaves or abusing children but hey, who am I to say? Lol
I'm afraid not, it wasn't standardised until the early 20th century, there's a museum near me that houses thousands of qurans from the 10th to the 20th century, they differ greatly, different words, different grammar, entire passages added or removed over the years.
@@kevindoran9389you’re talking about the SAN’AA manuscript and not a single passage was added or removed and for the different grammar you can search The seven Qira’at of the QURAAN, this is a great short video that would clear any misconceptions you have, ua-cam.com/video/jZe_qREjNYI/v-deo.htmlsi=WPd7BSjvaJXGbFCp
@@marymary83436 Jesus walks into a motel and puts three nails on the desk. Receptionist asks "can I help you?". Jesus replies, "can you put me up for the night?". Thank you, you've been a great audience.
We most read this, from the most high of host, Isaiah 43:10-11... And hosea 4:6. And stay there and search for more wisdom. KNOWLEDGE IS STRONGER THAN BELIEF.
Actually, the NIV ensures that the original content is still there because they don't follow the old translations but from the original Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew scriptures.
@Jesus_Lied_ReadTheBible what I can say is, if you read the whole book of mathew you read many things that don't match to the tanak, for example the generation from Adam to jc if you read it, the line don't match so the new testament is a copied of the tanak but they changed becouse greek. I ask my self why is the new testament writings in Greeks. ???
An omnipotent God passing on essential information using a book/books is idiotic. Why not just download all the information directly to our brains, thereby bypassing all the problems with copying, translating, and interpreting?
@@stephenwodz7593 Maybe because the essential information can still be preserved even with copying errors? As for why God would use human beings for a task so important to Him, I think that God uses human beings for His own ends so that they can take part in His goodness. You are certianly right that an approach like this comes with obvious problems, but I'd much rather have agency in coming to accept a religion than having none.
Because He knows better. Faith has to be essential, or Jesus would have died for nothing and that would make Him a liar, which He can never be. Unlike most dishonest to the core humans.
Exactly! Even with spell check, word processing, copy/paste, and thorough review/editing, I still make spelling and grammar mistakes. Imagine how tough it was for scribes and copyists 2000 years ago.
@@HolyKoolaid Au contraire, arrrr_ssss-ehole! It is you who have been seduced by mod tech, it is YOU who pay ZERO attention to what you write, what you speak, what you think. ... and you talk of "logical fallacies"! What a xhithead. HC-JAIPUR (22/07/2024) .
Don't take it too hard, nitpick. I tend to go a little nutzoid myself when so-called "experts" mispronounce ancient Egyptian words and names! Mostly because the "geniuses" don't bother to look up a word as it's written in hieroglyphics, or attempt to pronounce it. Example: "Thoth". NO, NO, NO! Dehuti! De-HOO-tee! (sigh!) It's not easy being a fussbutt, but somebody's gotta do it!
Excellent, like always. Few Christians have looked into the history of the canon and the formation of the Bible.Many of them are probably too scared to, and others, have never thought of doing so.The ones who have looked into it, and still remained Christians, have probably sought the help/shelter of excusiousists/ apologists to tell them what they want to hear.Being honest with yourself can be one of the hardest things a person will ever do.And, like the Jews at the Wailing Wall, it's hard to ignore the wall of cognitive dissonance.
@@shriggs55 a few Christians have read the whole Bible themselves, they usually just pick and choose proverbs quoted in a totally different context and apply them to their daily modern lives. I believe many if they would read it they would be horrified
@@ψευδάνερ A majority of "Christians" only know what they hear on Sunday. Reading the actual words, only to find out the Sunday interpreter is a politically motivated charlatan, is lethal to "faith".
That's why I became an atheist. Cognitive dissonance couldn't stand up to reality. It took decades to get there, though. Indoctrination is a powerful tool! 😮
let's push the question back even further: for what reason would a perfect entity such as God have for creating anything, esp. fallible humans, to begin with?...I mean, when you're perfect, you're immutable and have no reason to change...why? b/c you're in a perfect state...incidentally, William Lane Craig is a sophist...that's all you need to know.
When was the last time you heard a Christian reciting the 10 commandments without dropping the part about coveting your neighbors slave, 😉😁 They are still changing it. Also good luck finding any specific commandments against abortion and trans people.
I wonder whether the instruction manuals of other religion have the same flaw. Frankly I'm more bothered by the lack of coherence of the bible, which is also a marker of tampering, as a whole.
@@cryo9216 "has not change at all for at least 2,000" is already a contradiction in terms. As for the scrolls: the word of god is in a pretty sad state since only some 30% is still somewhat readable.
If we could find the first gospel, there's no way to be sure it really was the first. The woman taken in adultery and the ending of mark are not in the oldest bibles we have, What sense does it make to inspire a holy message if god is not going to preserve that message?
you're talking about the 0.25% that are worthy enough to have the texts above them "these dont appear in the earliest manuscripts" in modern bibles. nuance be damned
Omnipotent and omniscient being changed his mind. Maybe he had a chat with Matt, Mark, Luc and John. Those are totally middle eastern names. You just need faith. Or delusion. Or brain cancer. Religion is cancer.
Next time I encounter a Gideon's Bible, I'm gonna cross out "In the beginning" and replace it with "Once upon a time." It'll make the rest of it make so much more sense.
And the last line of Revelations: "And nobody lives happily ever after, except athiests, agnostics, heathens, pagans, Wiccans and Buddhists. PARTYYY!!!" (I apologize if I missed anybody.)
Here's my take, on the story of creation. The Bible says the earth was created in seven days. But why does that have be taken literally as earth days? If God created the stars, as an example why would it have to 'earth days'? Scientists today have discovered various period, sometime called ages, in the earth's development. Scientist now believe that our known universe seems to have a starting point, now called the Big Bang Theory. So my point is that many thing in the Bible can be understand as allegories, not literally. So my point is also, if some people think the Bible is just made up stuff, is it okay to murder people despite what the Ten Commandments says? Obviously not, in my view. I happen to believe that the Ten Commandments are the model to build a successful communities. But they need to be taught as such, not just posted a wall.
@@HolyKoolaidI remember a @religionforbreakfast post that explained some of the King James Bible edits as fitting the king's political needs, such as an emphasis on respect for the king's authority. That edition is well named: the gospel according to the king's whims..
No one uses the "Thomas Jefferson" version of the Bible. How would you know what Jefferson got right or wrong if we didn't have original text to compare it to? 🤔
@@CT-pi2glI've spoken to numerous lemmings on here that don't even know there's 300-900 plus years old men in the book of toilet paper.They are totally indoctrinated by nonsense 😂 Including you.
Lol isn't it telling, non-believers thinking they know more than Christians about their faith? Step out of this irrational echo chamber, guys, it ain't healthy and leads to narcissism as we see with every second in this comment section. I am yet to see this ever be the case outside of UA-cam, haha.
Thank you I needed this little reminder. I have long ago forsaken my church upbringing but have felt low about recently as Christianity is very strong in my area.
There is a difference between an eyewitness in a criminal matter who saw something fleeting and dramatic, and from who knows how far away, and an eyewitness who spent considerable time with someone experiencing what they said and did.
Yep… kind of disingenuous to try to implicate all eyewitness situations as being the same. Makes me wonder how this video is shading quite a few other “facts“.
Thank you sir for your research and documentation I like your inclusion of the time stamp on the bottom corner. Keep up the good work ...Added this to my religion playlist
Videos like these encourage my faith in Jesus Christ and actually make me very thankful that I am not an atheist, especially with how that worldview ends.
Deut 13.1 'If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, 13.2 _And the sign or the wonder come to pass,_ whereof he spake unto you, saying, Let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them; 13.3 You shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proves you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.' From the angels of Heaven, to the Kingdom of Israel, to Christ and the World since then, _everything_ revolves around this point. _'The Lord knows all those that are His.'_ Don't let anyone tell you that your forebears were apes. Lk 17:1 _'...It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!'_
My grandfather always used the three most recent scholarly translations that had concordance & maps etc. He taught me about the errors in the Bible by using the game Telephone as an example and talked about the problems translating from different languages.
Yep. Just read Yahweh in Trump's voice and it'll all make sense. The whining, the gaslighting, feeling no rules apply to him, and even the "like none has ever seen!" line Trump always says.
If prayer actually worked we'd see two things happen: Ambulances would take patients to houses of worship (churches, mosques, temples, etc.) and religious people would have longer lifespans than the rest of the population.
One of the things I like about your videos is the fire hydrant spray of information that is in each one. It's both overwhelming and Incredibly enjoyable. Thank you.
This is a great starting point for someone curious about the origins of the new testament. This information for me (initially learned in a New Testament 101 class from a prominent Christian university) was the beginning of my deconstruction over a decade ago. I love you and your videos, Thomas! Hope you are doing well still. ❤
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9:57 It wasn't Constantine but Theodosius I.
Amazing who many views a video gets when Y T doesn't censor it.
Thomas, You are very, "generous," with Biblical dating, perhaps to the point of inaccuracy. With no contemporanious references to the Temple of Solomon in the New Testament it is leading more scholars to date Mark after 70 AD. With the conspicuous apologetics woven into John, I suspect a much later date than the synoptic gospels (and a lot of scholars). They catch up eventually. Ehrman is evolving. Not long ago he refused to identify as atheist, preferring, "agnostic."
God is waatching you.
I would correct this to say: 'The bible has been changed way more than your average christian realises, but your average atheist is entirely aware'.
I doubt that most atheists [in Western Christian dominated countries] have spent significant time on the Bible at all, and certainly not on the early history of the Bible
And I don't see any requirement to do so either.
Exactly,
That they don't understand eye witnesses accounts are not good evidence,
Eye witnesses even get knocked off, as if they are not around their accounts can't be submitted as evidence.
Your average Atheist believes that the Bible is a complete human fiction from its inception. The fact that it has been altered over time by humans should not impact an Atheist's view of the Bible.
@@joachimschoder For purely academic reasons I find the history of the Bible fascinating. How religious syncretism and influences of Roman and Mediterranean culture altered this ancient Hebrew religion into this apocalyptic religion just peaks my interest.
Your probably correct though most Atheists probably have no interest.
@@joachimschoder Perhaps not most, but a lot of us know the bible better than any christian, and don't forget that a massive percentage of atheists were superchristians who wanted to be the best gosh durn plum-diggety christians they could be and read the bible cover to cover and realized what a pile of garbage it is.
The rest of us learn more simply by assimilation and, often, as a direct response to having bible quotes tossed at our heads by clueless cultists when we know, _trivially,_ how often the bible disproves itself. It's not a *_requirement,_* but after a couple years of getting Psalm 14 thrown at you you're gonna want a Matthew 5:22 to fling back.
All of these Christian churches, especially the evangelical churches, that claim the Bible is inerrant and without error either have no idea what they're talking about, are purposefully misleading people, or both.
If one accepts the premise that any "organized religion" is first and foremost a political body centered around control. it's easier to understand.
It's both.
Whatever it takes to keep the money coming in.
Both
@@thomasbraeking6225was gonna write the same, but you beat me to it 👍
so you know what youre talking about?lmao
"This dinner has passed through the hands of 100 chefs before it reached your table, and I can guarantee that the last 85 of them didn't poison it."
This dinner has passed through 100 customers before reaching your table more like.
@@mdug7224 20 chefs, 60 doordashes, 20 nosy neighbours
@@neoqwerty 🤣
Bible verse Malachi 3:1
Whenever, people get corrupted previous message from God and God sends a new messenger. That is the reason to accept prophet Mohammad messenger and Quran.
You forget the 200 servers and the 500 other clients, some of them being quite angry at you for no reason.
People always assume I became an atheist because "someone hurt me" but the real reasons are mostly because I loved and studied the Bible and its origins.
Right?!
I was Christian when I was a kid, and I'm naturally curious, so I kept digging.
Now I'm an atheist, I love learning about the Bible, its history, how it evolved and how it takes roots in other ancient beliefs.
That's absolutely fascinating.
@@GrannyBender I 100% agree. It’s amazing to look at it through this perspective.
Constantine did not make Christianity the official religion, he legalized Christianity. It was his grandson Theodosious the Great who made it the official religion.
What source(s) do you have on hand?
He called the Council of Nicea for Christianity, not mithraism.
@@whatevername8551 What is Miraism
@@whatevername8551 ?
@@whatevername8551ooh, that's an interesting point. I think he had a rapport with the Christians, so he could've been trying to create unity with his supporters. If they go to the parish ,he is doomed.
Been missing you lately. Glad to see you're still at it.
Same. I enjoyed the video! Looking forward to more.
Ditto
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The bible needs a red pen, and a big bottle of ink.
Big ol' vat of acetone, or possibly its own hook in a pre-industrialization outhouse.
Forget the pen, just drop it in the bottle.
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@@LlortnerofA few of the Jesus bits can stay. After a good editing it should be maybe three pages.
@@JeantheSecond-ip7qm Just rewrite them from memory. Can't be worse than the original.
As a former Evangelical Christian Pastor your videos have been helpful in my deconstruction from the ridiculous beliefs I once held! It’s nice to be free from mythical beliefs!
Sounds like you’re currently trapped in a mystical belief. Just replaced one for the other I guess 😂
Good luck.
Satan's got you by the nuts now, hasn't he, Pastor Timmy? 😢
Turn back to the Light, brother
@@nsmith9862 😂😂😂
Wrong timing,covid was the white horse of the apocalypse,we are in the pre- tribulation,the black horse is coming soon,economic depression,the red horse is war,and by 2030 the pale horse is in full swing for 7 years,right after the rapture.have you not seen the symbolic Satanist opening of the Olympic?
This video is *so* important. As an ex-missionary (of the Pentecostal variety), learning the true history of the Bible was what initially caused me to begin questioning my faith. The biggest hit for me was learning about the addition/extension of the book of Mark (the earliest written gospel and one of the primary sources for the other gospels). Considering how different Christianity might be today if it had been based on the original text was mind blowing to me.
I mean, if you rely on the oldest available version of Mark, it essentially ends with three mourning women taking the word of a random young man that the reason Jesus' tomb was empty was because he rose from the dead. Rather than questioning this man further or considering a more likely reason for a dead body's disappearance (like someone stealing/moving the body.... perhaps even the man they encountered there?), the women left the tomb and *told no one* what they saw. The end.
If Jesus had actually been raised from the dead and seen alive by loads of people after being so publicly executed, that would be a rather odd thing for the author of Mark to leave out of a book whose entire purpose was to catalogue the major events of Jesus' life, right? But you never hear pastors share this info with their congregations, and very few Christians ever learn about or think this through, despite several versions of the Bible (including the NIV) including a footnote that literally explains that the earliest versions of Mark end after verse 8 of chapter 16 (after the phrase "Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.").
This - along with other aspects of the Bible's history that nearly all Christian scholars agree upon - changed everything for me. I had been taught that the Bible was the inerrant, unchanging word of God. I had been taught that you couldn't even have a stable sense of right vs wrong without an unchanging foundation like the Bible to base it on. I had been told repeatedly that the fact that the Bible existed for so long without changing was one of the major proofs of the truth / divine inspiration of what it contained. Realizing that the Bible had undergone hundreds of thousands of changes, some of which were *incredibly* significant, was the first and most important card which, when removed along with many others, caused the whole house to fall.
As noted in this video, changing one's entire worldview isn't easy. I underwent a years long process of ruthlessly chasing down every bit of evidence-based knowledge I could find - a process which continues to this day. I've realized that the whole premise of having an "unchanging foundation" upon which to base one's morals is incredibly dangerous specifically because it does not allow for adjustments based on new evidence, no matter how strong. I struggled the first few years with readjusting my view on life, but I'm much happier now. I no longer have to shut down my natural curiosity. I've given myself permission to look up answers to random questions, and learned *so many* cool things as a result. And I welcome evidence that may conflict with my current beliefs, because - rather than fear it - I view it as another opportunity to learn.
Life is better when you're open to new information. Hopefully this video can help start others down a similar path. It may be hard, but man is it worth it!
Glad you made it out. It's amazing how all it takes is one small crack in the dam when you're taught that not one jot of tiddle will ever change. Stay curious.
@@HolyKoolaid Thanks, man. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your next video.
My experience is similar to yours. My life changed completely, & for the better. I'm comfortable not knowing everything & learning new things. I also welcome challenges to my beliefs. I'm interested in what's actually true, not in what I hope is true.
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@@IheartDogs55 Well said. Glad you found your way out of Christianity and its black and white world of "blind faith." The real world is much more colorful, nuanced, and frankly, interesting. Learning new things (without fear that they may contradict a predetermined set of beliefs) is so much fun.
ETA: Love your username. Dogs are pretty awesome, too.
@@nicked_fenyx That's my 13 yr old dog Daisy as my avatar.
I grew up in catholic school starting in preschool. By 2nd grade I was questioning my faith. By 5th grade there were no more questions. It was quite clear that what I was being taught was not true. I argued tooth and nail during religious class all through middle school. My teachers hated me.
*Respect*
we have much in common.
I suggest you read the Quran
@@Recitationn_of_Qurann I don't need any other fairytale to believe in. If the Greek gods were not real, neither are any of the other ones. I'll stick to science, The Satanic Temple, and Chuck Palahniuk; thank you.
@@ThaStonedGardner Islam is not a fairytale bro and you have no proof
I'm reading Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" for the first time, and it is amazingly engaging and profound, Highly recommend!
@@animefurry3508 lol at first glance I read that as Mosquito Jesus 😂 I need to go to bed already
I loved that book! Another favorite of mine by him is "How Jesus Became God".
@@ψευδάνερinstead of us needing Jesus blood mosquito Jesus needs ours
he's amazing
Hey! Just got the book as epdf since you mentioned it. Will definitely read and comment again as soon as I can.
"Often with no firsthand witnesses present..."
Or, EVER with firsthand witnesses
@Vito - there's NEVER any 1st hand witnesses in the Bible. Suggest you read "Jesus from Outer Space" by Prof R Carrier and other scholar books
Having neither witnesses nor physical evidence is convenient when one wants to prove the existence of god, the odd miracle and the messiah.
Still waiting for the list with the names of the 5000 that were served bread and fish from a basket 2000 years ago.
@@Soundbrigade You'll have to ask Josephus Flavius about that one. If anyone has an attendance list then it has to be him since he invented most of the Jebus myth.
@@JZsBFF Jebus??? Maybe you mean Cheezus?!
When I was getting my degree at a Jesuit University I had to take three semesters of Theology. That is when I had a professor explain that the bible was written by those to reflect their period. Things were taken out or added to meet a certain narrative they wanted.
When I was studying Latin, my Jesuit professor admitted that Our Lady was simply Isis, the mother of Horus. He suggested that I compare the iconography of Jesus with Serapis. He conceded that all of my inflammatory criticisms of Roman Christianity were correct. I love Jesuits...
@@afwalker1921do you mean that Jesus had no mother? According to the Bible, he did not have a father, but you seem to be implying one step further.. 🥴
In Europe Christian practices adapted to _replace_ the local religious practices. Days of pagan celebration became Christian holidays. The worshipping of saints replaced the pantheon of gods: there are saints to heal disease, others are worshipped to guarantee a good harvest, etc. A few days ago the Archbishop of Belgorod called its inhabitants to pray the "local" Saint to protect them against Ukrainiens attacks (and misguided Russian bombs..) Christianity is morphing back to its pagan's origins.
I find it very likely that the same happened in Egypt: the story was "restyled" to match the local culture and fuse with it. Some of the Bible sections that appear odd to us might be remnants of the ancient religion of Egypt.
The monotheistic Christian religion has an incredible talent for polymorphism. 🧐
@@pascalmartin1891 No, sir! I am going two steps further! I am saying that the Son of Heaven is a carryover from pharonic paganism, that your dude IS the sacred son of Isis. The Ptolomaic version of this was a hybrid god called Serapis. I would suggest you look into this. Serapis is Jesus with a bowl of wheat on his head. All of this is silly, and better left to the distant past. Anything that can make everything needs nothing from you, not blood, not belief, not obedience, not anything. If your god wants blood, you are worshiping something other than the Creator, and you should be careful... free your mind...
@@afwalker1921this is a complete falsehood. Cite a source please.
@@mikey1305 My source was this Jesuit, my Latin professor! He made those connections for me. He also told me that his worship of the Christ was a homosexual adoration of the "penetrated man", which might be what the current pope has been complaining about, the problem in the semenaries. Dude blew my mind! I wish you could talk to him, but he died of HIV/AIDS in the middle 80's...
Thanks! Great summary.
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
The vast majority of people claiming to be Christian have not done this much research.
The research doesn't prove the claims are true. It is full of opinions and speculation. This is the problem with all the atheist videos. They rely on sources that are fallible to say that the Bible is fallible. I can research night and day, but I have no reason to trust the things I read.
@@jbutero1"...I have no reason to trust the things I read"... Except the Bible, I assume? Lololol 😂😂😂
@@moonbeam0099 Of course, but that is my right. I get to decide for myself. The video doesn't even give sources. I reject it as worthless opinions.
@@jbutero1Without using google...name the first christian...and for a bonus point .the first woman in genesis🐱
@@jbutero1he has a sources cited document in the description
Best argument against the Bible is just to read it. Doesn’t matter which version from what era, it’s all bunk.
truth!! I became an atheist after reading the bible, when I was in church I only knew passages told by the preacher.
The septuigent....read by a classic Greek philologists who studies medical texts, not a Bible scholar. It's not quite as bunk when they read it. It's just full of cult drugs and fuqt up shyt. It's quite...fadcinating....when they read about Ezekiel's medicinal earth tablets...wait, what? I thought it was flying wheels, with eyeballs, and animals with 4 heads!!! Lol, nope. In greek, it's a medicinal earth tablets coated in 4 layers of animal poison. 🤷♂️
Exactly...you only need the bible to dump the entire christianity.
Or simply ask your priest or religious teacher in school why they don't mention specific parts like God selling his people into slavery multiple times, killing innocent people etc.
@Sabo__90 yeah, old testament stuff doesn't phase them. You gotta use new testament stuff, like Jesus being served by a little naked boy in Mark 14:51-52. Nobody EVER remembers the little naked boy. 😬
Many of these comments remind me of my sales training days - heavy on prepared responses, and thin on actual substance.
It’s more evidence that being faced with data that conflicts with your closely held beliefs (whatever you’re selling) doesn’t change your mind - it just demands you add more magic, mystery, and a dash of passive aggressive ad hominem to prop it up.
👍👍Couldn't have said it better. I don't spend much time on the comment section but I was sick the other day and decided to waste a few hours reading comments on Atheist and skeptics channels. I gave up on humanity. I didn't know human beings could be that gullible ....but then, it's religion we're talking about .
@@tklyte me too. I pulled a muscle in the lower back. So i went looking for mind candy and then got sucked back into the comments section. Believers comments remind me of myself when I was in my late teens and early 20s. They have been presented so much as true within the confines of their bubble it is difficult to answer questions presented. They then lash out. They also do not understand why we care so much. They fail to see how we free thinkers prefer to have supernatural claims and dogmas kept out of our legislation. The powerful are always using religion as a way to of control and so we are always on guard.
WHAT??????.
@@wileynowling and we must remain vigilant. Religion in flailing like fish out of water because it's losing on all sides (thanks to the Internet mostly) It's not going to fold without a fight, hence the intensified pushback from Evangelicals and other cults. They're pushing back hard, therefore we must push forward even harder.
@@tklyte that is my impression. Their numbers are dwindling faster than sociology can keep up with. The evangelicals specifically are dying a death by a thousand cuts. And aligning with Trump has pushed the casually curious away. They say you are the company you keep. I was out of the church way back when the idiot was doing season 1 of his TV show. I was still shocked to see the majority of so called followers of Christ back a vile human being who brags about sexually assaulting women. To me that shows the real character of a person. Who they choose to support or keep company with.
I think religion might be a scam ...
Believing in a religion is not really a scam... but going to megachurches or wasting money on the religion itself is a scam.
@@adryanclay as a kid we had an option religious classes or "outside activities" classes.
All the way from the first grade to the last year of high school I went to those religious classes.
The more I listend the less it all made sense in general.
In those twelve years of schooling I've never heard so many potayto potahto stories that mention how god is good after curing a guy possessed by demons (seizures) that caused him to twitch uncontrollably, or some forms of cancers disappearing on their own miraculously (majority of the population knows that cancers are really bad, but everyone has a limited understanding)etc.
Point being, religion is kind of a manipulative scam that easily exploits people with less knowledge, and it gives them a false hope, literally like Carl Marks said " religion is opium of the masses and when ground stops providing they'll look up into the sky" not to mention theocracies that formed when someone said they saw god in their closet or under the bed so we should mindless follow that dude ... it horrible
For kids and illitirites* there's fairy tales
For entrepreneurs and statesmen there's religion.
*illiterates (English spelling is hard)
Sometimes religion is a scam, but God is real. Don't follow religion, follow Jesus
@@schoolaccount-g6z that's just easier said then proved ... I've seen far too many umm ... NOT miraculous things to say that it's real.
The incredible forever changing book of Wholly Fables.
"The Goat herders guide to the universe" - Some unknown author
The bible is accurate! The holy land is America. The events didn't happen that long ago. It's historians that are liars.
I accidentally read "wholesale" instead of "wholly", which could explain why I feel exalted when entering a grocery shop.
Tbf dozens of people pick & choose which ingredients to include in their recipe of Christianity @@JZsBFF
I like the sequel to that "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
This is the info I’ve been looking for for years. We’ll done mr. Koolaid!
I suggest you read the Quran
It's crazy how they found the US constitution on a dead sea scroll and then added it to the front of the Trumpible.
😅
"The constitution is nothing but an old piece of paper."
Trump
“…..The call it Bible. WE LOVE BIBLE…”
Thank you for posting the video. Your videos always me think.
That was amazing! The video as well as the advertising for Debunked. I always love your visuals and this video is so packed with useful information.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just bought Debunked. Can't wait to check it out.
already got mine, its great
@@starkillerx2020 My family loves card games and arguing. I get the feeling this is going to fit in just fine.
Excellent video! I hope you make more on this subject!
That's the plan!
Sending appreciation! I hope your body and mind are both feeling well these days. You've been working so hard!
Thank you for your kind concerns. I am doing better now than I have been in years. :)
@@HolyKoolaid 💙
I wish people would see it for what it is. A mythos. A fairytale. A work of legends. Why must we torment each other over these fables?
Certainly not. You don't a fight if someone tells you that little red riding good had a purple coat.
Your right! It is a fairytale! Boy you sure a genius! Wow can't believe this lil book about some random Carpenter (of whom we have more evidence existed than we should for any random peasant), fooled the world for so long! Your smarter than about half the population alive (Christians and Muslims, the Quran says to follow the Bible, somewhat)! Your smarter than Isaac Newton (a devout Christian)!
Unless maybe just because the Bible doesn't fit into your view of the world, doesn't mean it's not true??? And maybe all the billions of witnesses across the world right now aren't just completely insane?
Because monotheistic religions are very good for controlling power and people
I’m a Christian. Just to ask this real quick. How do you explain when people dying they see Jesus and heaven and things like that if it’s not real. Also people who have had near death experiences who are unconscious such when under surgery from anesthesia and yet when they die temporarily they can explain the the doctor they saw everything in the room and saw there own body. That shows proof of some existence of consciousness after death
Thanks for exposing your utter ignorance.
Literally every week archeology makes discoveries that prove the Bible to be true and accurate.
Ordered the card game just now! I can't wait to receive it! Thank you so much for all you do! ❤️
Hope you enjoy it!
Heck, the Catholic Church deliberately altered the 10 Commandments to fit their agenda. The Jewish and Protestant 10 Commandments have the original version. So when they want to place the 10 Commandments everywhere, my first thought is “Which Version?”
That’s with a simple comparison. How much alteration was performed without means of comparison?
Great video as always.
As someone who grew up Protestant, I had no idea Catholics altered it! That's wild.
@@elihinze3161 Yes they dropped the second Commandment about Graven Images (since that’s a big part of their business model) and split the Coveting Commandment into two parts to keep it 10. 9-Coveting wife, 10-Coveting goods.
So if they altered the (alleged) direct word of god to suit their needs…
They also deliberately changed the word “maiden” to “virgin” in Isaiah to make it fit the Gospel narrative. Both words are very different from each other and it is very hard to confuse them. Again, this can be easily verified in any Jewish Bible.
Its worse than that the set we call the 10 commandments are not the ones the bible calls the 10 commandments and says are written on the stone tablets the only commandments in common are dont worship other gods dont make idols and dont work on the sabbath see Exodus 34.
@@mattm8870 yes, absolutely correct. I was merely pointing out the alteration to the “10 Commandments” that people are familiar with. Like you said, the named 10 Commandments are very different.
Apparently boiling a kid (baby goat) in its mother’s milk is far more abominable than owning slaves or abusing children but hey, who am I to say? Lol
Well, in the text of Exodus or Deuteronomy, the 10 commandments are exactly the same in Catholic or Protestant bibles.
I love the fact that as a Muslim I don't have to worry about any of that, I literally read the same Quran the prophet was reading letter by letter.
I'm afraid not, it wasn't standardised until the early 20th century, there's a museum near me that houses thousands of qurans from the 10th to the 20th century, they differ greatly, different words, different grammar, entire passages added or removed over the years.
@@kevindoran9389you’re talking about the SAN’AA manuscript and not a single passage was added or removed and for the different grammar you can search The seven Qira’at of the QURAAN, this is a great short video that would clear any misconceptions you have, ua-cam.com/video/jZe_qREjNYI/v-deo.htmlsi=WPd7BSjvaJXGbFCp
@@muhammudamine7376what about the Qurans uthman burned or the one the got ate? Red your Hadith
I thought M pbh was illiterate.
@@DaveBulger-sk3up he was, by read I mean recite
At this point, it's not the bible, it's blue's clues
Love Blue's Clues.
We just figured out Jew's Clues
I think of it more like Crisis in 4 Gospels.
I would say it's closer to ..Where's Waldoshiviski!
@@christiananimepunk4793
Clues are evidence too. Ever heard of Sherlock Holmes?
I guess the bible has alot of holes, so i guess it is holey after all
Just like jesus
@@wilfulbuckle13 according to the New Testament they did put alot of holes in him, mainly to pin him to a cross
Holey Buybull
He hasn't walk on water since he got holes in his feet.
@@marymary83436 Jesus walks into a motel and puts three nails on the desk. Receptionist asks "can I help you?". Jesus replies, "can you put me up for the night?". Thank you, you've been a great audience.
Yes the bible has been changed from the orginal text we Will never know what it truly said...
How could we even recognize the original gospel if we did find it?
We most read this, from the most high of host, Isaiah 43:10-11... And hosea 4:6. And stay there and search for more wisdom. KNOWLEDGE IS STRONGER THAN BELIEF.
Actually, the NIV ensures that the original content is still there because they don't follow the old translations but from the original Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew scriptures.
@Jesus_Lied_ReadTheBible Huh? Where's your proof? (genuine question) οἰκουμένῃ means "inhabited earth/world" if I remembered correctly
@Jesus_Lied_ReadTheBible what I can say is, if you read the whole book of mathew you read many things that don't match to the tanak, for example the generation from Adam to jc if you read it, the line don't match so the new testament is a copied of the tanak but they changed becouse greek. I ask my self why is the new testament writings in Greeks. ???
An omnipotent God passing on essential information using a book/books is idiotic. Why not just download all the information directly to our brains, thereby bypassing all the problems with copying, translating, and interpreting?
it's there for people on a truth quest rather than a pleasure quest. survival of the fittest will get flipped upside down on the last days.
It´s because it is not baraly a brainmatter. but life and relation-matter. It is a mingle of Divinity and Humanity.
@@stephenwodz7593 Maybe because the essential information can still be preserved even with copying errors? As for why God would use human beings for a task so important to Him, I think that God uses human beings for His own ends so that they can take part in His goodness. You are certianly right that an approach like this comes with obvious problems, but I'd much rather have agency in coming to accept a religion than having none.
Why all the mystery too? What's the point of it if this so called good God exists? Sounds like a fucking evil tyrant.
Because He knows better.
Faith has to be essential, or Jesus would have died for nothing and that would make Him a liar, which He can never be. Unlike most dishonest to the core humans.
Case in point, re: transcription errors - the Church father was called _Origen_ not Origin.
They don't call me Donald 'nitpick' Numbskull for nothing.
How much do you pay them for that privilege?
Asking for a friend
Exactly! Even with spell check, word processing, copy/paste, and thorough review/editing, I still make spelling and grammar mistakes. Imagine how tough it was for scribes and copyists 2000 years ago.
@@HolyKoolaid Au contraire, arrrr_ssss-ehole!
It is you who have been seduced by mod tech, it is YOU who pay ZERO attention to what you write, what you speak, what you think.
... and you talk of "logical fallacies"! What a xhithead.
HC-JAIPUR (22/07/2024)
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Indeed, because he took care not to be the "origin" of anyone, didn't he? Wink, 😉
Don't take it too hard, nitpick. I tend to go a little nutzoid myself when so-called "experts" mispronounce ancient Egyptian words and names! Mostly because the "geniuses" don't bother to look up a word as it's written in hieroglyphics, or attempt to pronounce it. Example: "Thoth". NO, NO, NO! Dehuti! De-HOO-tee! (sigh!) It's not easy being a fussbutt, but somebody's gotta do it!
What a great production. Thanks very much.
Excellent, like always. Few Christians have looked into the history of the canon and the formation of the Bible.Many of them are probably too scared to, and others, have never thought of doing so.The ones who have looked into it, and still remained Christians, have probably sought the help/shelter of excusiousists/ apologists to tell them what they want to hear.Being honest with yourself can be one of the hardest things a person will ever do.And, like the Jews at the Wailing Wall, it's hard to ignore the wall of cognitive dissonance.
FORTRESS ANTONIA WALL..ROMAN
@@shriggs55 a few Christians have read the whole Bible themselves, they usually just pick and choose proverbs quoted in a totally different context and apply them to their daily modern lives. I believe many if they would read it they would be horrified
@@ψευδάνερ A majority of "Christians" only know what they hear on Sunday. Reading the actual words, only to find out the Sunday interpreter is a politically motivated charlatan, is lethal to "faith".
That's why I became an atheist. Cognitive dissonance couldn't stand up to reality. It took decades to get there, though. Indoctrination is a powerful tool! 😮
@@IheartDogs55 just like when i tell sheepies..NO PLANE
Not only the original writing had been lost, so had the behavior and actions.
Thanks for your helping us see more clearly
😅 deceit by the devil through the arrogance of men
this was so well done dude thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! I've got more on the way. :)
let's push the question back even further: for what reason would a perfect entity such as God have for creating anything, esp. fallible humans, to begin with?...I mean, when you're perfect, you're immutable and have no reason to change...why? b/c you're in a perfect state...incidentally, William Lane Craig is a sophist...that's all you need to know.
Maybe He should have drowned us all and created more intelligent beings, unlike those, like you, who think they know better than Him?
Thanks!
You bet! Thank you.
God's Perfect Word keeps changing?
When was the last time you heard a Christian reciting the 10 commandments without dropping the part about coveting your neighbors slave, 😉😁
They are still changing it. Also good luck finding any specific commandments against abortion and trans people.
I wonder whether the instruction manuals of other religion have the same flaw.
Frankly I'm more bothered by the lack of coherence of the bible, which is also a marker of tampering, as a whole.
@@JamesRichardWiley But those changes do not appear to have been made by God, so do you have a point?
Actually, the Word of God has not change at all for at least 2,000. You've obviously never heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
@@cryo9216 "has not change at all for at least 2,000" is already a contradiction in terms. As for the scrolls: the word of god is in a pretty sad state since only some 30% is still somewhat readable.
Love your videos and am commenting so the almighty algorithm will show them to more people.
All hail the mighty algorithm. 🙌
May Allah guide you to the truth
If we could find the first gospel, there's no way to be sure it really was the first. The woman taken in adultery and the ending of mark are not in the oldest bibles we have, What sense does it make to inspire a holy message if god is not going to preserve that message?
I asked that got kicked out of church
you're talking about the 0.25% that are worthy enough to have the texts above them "these dont appear in the earliest manuscripts" in modern bibles. nuance be damned
Why did the perfect word of God need a sequel ?
God's words but it cam 70 years after the most important event in hist
With unknown writers
Same reason why a perfect being that exists beyond time and space needed a do-over with his perfect creation and had to flood the flat world.
@@justanotheropinion5832 Wild no matter how many times you hear it.
Omnipotent and omniscient being changed his mind.
Maybe he had a chat with Matt, Mark, Luc and John.
Those are totally middle eastern names.
You just need faith. Or delusion. Or brain cancer.
Religion is cancer.
I love the illiterate flash reference. Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, almost subliminal @ 4:28. Trump just loves his Babble! 😂
I noticed that too, it was GREAT! LOL
THANK YOU! I'm always telling people the bible has been changed multiple times!
This is very interesting! Thanks for your take on Biblical inerrantcy.
My pleasure!
Yo I got here 30 seconds before you started. What’s goooood. Love your videos!
Welcome! Glad you made it.
As always, great video! Thank you for your work
Next time I encounter a Gideon's Bible, I'm gonna cross out "In the beginning" and replace it with "Once upon a time."
It'll make the rest of it make so much more sense.
And the last line of Revelations: "And nobody lives happily ever after, except athiests, agnostics, heathens, pagans, Wiccans and Buddhists. PARTYYY!!!" (I apologize if I missed anybody.)
Here's my take, on the story of creation. The Bible says the earth was created in seven days. But why does that have be taken literally as earth days? If God created the stars, as an example why would it have to 'earth days'? Scientists today have discovered various period, sometime called ages, in the earth's development. Scientist now believe that our known universe seems to have a starting point, now called the Big Bang Theory. So my point is that many thing in the Bible can be understand as allegories, not literally.
So my point is also, if some people think the Bible is just made up stuff, is it okay to murder people despite what the Ten Commandments says? Obviously not, in my view. I happen to believe that the Ten Commandments are the model to build a successful communities. But they need to be taught as such, not just posted a wall.
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Heck, even Thomas Jefferson apparently tampered with the Bible, editing out stuff he didn't like.
I think he just compiled all the quotes from Jesus and dumped the rest.
Yep. In keeping with a long tradition of editing the Bible. So did the authors of the King James (although to a lesser extent).
@@HolyKoolaidI remember a @religionforbreakfast post that explained some of the King James Bible edits as fitting the king's political needs, such as an emphasis on respect for the king's authority. That edition is well named: the gospel according to the king's whims..
No one uses the "Thomas Jefferson" version of the Bible.
How would you know what Jefferson got right or wrong if we didn't have original text to compare it to? 🤔
@@cryo9216 For one thing, Jefferson wasn't there.
Ah yes, the wholly babble.
Isn't it telling? That atheists often if not always know the bible better than the faithful followers?
I have never once seen this be the case.
I see this being the case all the time.
@@CT-pi2glI've spoken to numerous lemmings on here that don't even know there's 300-900 plus years old men in the book of toilet paper.They are totally indoctrinated by nonsense 😂 Including you.
@@CT-pi2glthere is plenty on here that don't even know about 300 to 900 plus year old men in the bible😂 Almost as if it's made up.
Lol isn't it telling, non-believers thinking they know more than Christians about their faith? Step out of this irrational echo chamber, guys, it ain't healthy and leads to narcissism as we see with every second in this comment section. I am yet to see this ever be the case outside of UA-cam, haha.
Thank you. This is very imperitively important information.
Glad you think so!
@@HolyKoolaid you are one of the people instrumental in my deconversion. Thank you so much for every moment of effort you put into your work!
Amazing video! Keep up the fantastic work :)
Eye opening and fascinating, thank~you!
And thank you for watching. :)
As a Pagan; I follow my religion because my 'spirit' proved to me they exist, Blessed Be
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The Bible is less valid as a way to run your life as Dr. Seuss, though Seuss is kinder and more loving.
Then don't ever follow the Golden Rule
And in the end it doesn't matter how much the bible's been changed, because it's all nonsense anyway.
Fantastic video! Informative and well done I learned a lot thank you
Man i sure enjoy your content!! Yer one smart summbitch!! Howdy from Texas
I’ve just ordered Debunked I’ve been looking for this for ages, Thanks.
Hope you like it. :)
@@HolyKoolaid I'm sure I will, I've been after it since it was on kickstarter
@@cam8754 does it have the same _incorrect_ attempt to 'debunk' that was in this video?
Just gotta applaud the flash frame of Trump holding the bible upside down as you say "illiterate". Perfection in editing right there.
The "creator being an evil deity" thing I could maybe understand...
Thank you I needed this little reminder. I have long ago forsaken my church upbringing but have felt low about recently as Christianity is very strong in my area.
Thanks for this food for thought.
Ron Hubbard says it all. Not all the people are stupid, but the ones that are, you want to focus on them.
Thank you for doing this :)
@4:28 if u can pause(u need good skill), u will see perfect pic for an illiterate in the video, LOL awesome - thts was humour at its best
You're back Brother. Haven't gotten any recommendations from you for a while. Hope all is well.
Makes no difference how many times the bible has been altered as it is a work of pure fiction .
I SAVED THIS VIDEO FOR SUNDAY MORNING. STRONG COFFEE, STRONGER CANNABIS
AND BIBLE FACTS : A "HOLY TRINITY" INDEED!
It would be interesting to read the Bible from 1 thousand years from now
Or any religion, come to that.
Very good.... Keep speaking the facts
With all these changes it amazes me people can believe in the DaVinci code.
There is a difference between an eyewitness in a criminal matter who saw something fleeting and dramatic, and from who knows how far away, and an eyewitness who spent considerable time with someone experiencing what they said and did.
Yep… kind of disingenuous to try to implicate all eyewitness situations as being the same. Makes me wonder how this video is shading quite a few other “facts“.
“B-b-but the word of god is infallible!”
Right up until it contradicts the political control it was used to "justify".
The word of God is infallible. However the bible ain’t it !!!
...Which god? :-)
@@nairbvel Bacchus?
The echo chamber is strong in this ones (I mean you guys)
UA-cam recommended this video, side by side with another video titled "The Bible has no contradictions".. The irony. 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
"the Bible" as if there is only one.
Excellent.
It is good that UA-cam encourages you to take part of different opinions. (Not saying this to defend the Bible, it is only a principal remark.)
There is no contradictions
@@jonni1023 I hope you're right.
This is a great video! I'm definitely buying Debunked, it looks like an awesome game!
Thank you sir for your research and documentation I like your inclusion of the time stamp on the bottom corner. Keep up the good work ...Added this to my religion playlist
Enjoyed your presentation of the early church on the validity of text. Will be brought up when I talk to theists
Good luck, I doubt that will change anything. 😊
“You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.” - Carl Sagan
Fantastic video!
Thanks for stopping by
Great information in under 18 minutes. What about the Council of Trent in the 1500's? Is that being covered soon? Subscribed.
Good to know wars have been fought over fanfiction of fanfiction. Makes me never wanna hear complaints about coffee shop AUs ever again.
This is so interesting.
Why does this feel like the beginning of religion turning into something like flat earth...
it doesn't turning into ... it always was
Thats when the end of the world will come
@@dreamsdicc1817 corps eating death cult member?
Videos like these encourage my faith in Jesus Christ and actually make me very thankful that I am not an atheist, especially with how that worldview ends.
In your worldview, billions are suffering in eternal torment. The atheistic worldview is a much better ending.
@@senadgalijasevic8568what do you mean?
@@LonelyGamer4in his world view people have eternal joy and the atheists is just black screen lol his view is better
Deut 13.1 'If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, 13.2 _And the sign or the wonder come to pass,_ whereof he spake unto you, saying, Let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them; 13.3 You shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proves you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.'
From the angels of Heaven, to the Kingdom of Israel, to Christ and the World since then, _everything_ revolves around this point.
_'The Lord knows all those that are His.'_ Don't let anyone tell you that your forebears were apes. Lk 17:1 _'...It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!'_
@@defimperia2373 amen
5:10 Hey, ancient Christians and modern Christians have something in common!
Modern Christians: eehrr... I don't like that version, does someone here have an NIV?
As a Christian Atheist and a follower of Cthulhu Christ, I gladly appreciate this message.
My grandfather always used the three most recent scholarly translations that had concordance & maps etc. He taught me about the errors in the Bible by using the game Telephone as an example and talked about the problems translating from different languages.
That the Earth's creator is an evil deity? Yup, that sounds about right... It would explain alot.
A lot
Gnostic christianity is interesting... Still stupid but interesting
Lol, what book have you been reading? It clearly isn't the Bible, you Gnostic! "Redditor's guide to the universe"?
Yep. Just read Yahweh in Trump's voice and it'll all make sense. The whining, the gaslighting, feeling no rules apply to him, and even the "like none has ever seen!" line Trump always says.
OH MY GOD!!!! I am so happy that you've appeared on my tab again
Faith in God requires initial faith in non credible man's words.
Nah I started reading the Bible cause I felt convicted of my sin, so I had faith in God that this book He was telling me to read was the real thing
Don't need faith when you have the truth
God is inside of us to experience. No words are necessary.
@@taylenvila3915 except the Bible...
@@kickassets6414 What does that mean? I don't think you understand the Bible. Can I ask you some Bible questions?
If prayer actually worked we'd see two things happen: Ambulances would take patients to houses of worship (churches, mosques, temples, etc.) and religious people would have longer lifespans than the rest of the population.
One of the things I like about your videos is the fire hydrant spray of information that is in each one. It's both overwhelming and Incredibly enjoyable. Thank you.
Basically the world's longest game of "telephone".
No goofy u talking out your 🍑 is
@@iampage2089
Grow up!
Grow up!
This is a great starting point for someone curious about the origins of the new testament. This information for me (initially learned in a New Testament 101 class from a prominent Christian university) was the beginning of my deconstruction over a decade ago. I love you and your videos, Thomas! Hope you are doing well still. ❤