Reasons why you SHOULDN'T buy the Panasonic Lumix S1
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I Love the Panasonic Lumix S1. It's my first choice of camera on all of my UA-cam, Weddings and Freelance projects. But, it does come with some limitations that is important to be aware of, if you're in the position of choosing whether the Lumix S1 is the right camera for you. And that's what this video is about!
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00:00 Intro
00:20 Disclaimer
01:06 LCD Screen
02:19 Slow Motion (High Speed Video)
03:28 8 Bit Recording in Slow Motion
04:41 Uppbeat Ad
05:15 Size of Camera
06:55 Media Storage
07:39 Summary
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The horizontally tilting screen is useful for two things: tripod mounted interviews, and low line vertical shooting. You can check interview framing with the camera on your left. A tilting screen lets you see it much more easily when shooting portrait orientation images from lower down.
You’ve done a nice job on the video with the script and shots but you’re pulling at straws a bit here I think. The S1 has been on sale for 2.5 years now and I think most users know what to expect at this stage. It has better colour than Canons mirrorless cameras and dynamic range is great. I love using mine still since I got it in March 2019. The last upgrade was amazing.
You're absolutely right, its a great camera. The things that I talk about are actually brought up from seeing conversations of people that have been unaware of, in Facebook groups dedicated to the L series range of cameras, so whilst they're not necessarily purely negatives, I hope the video instead clears up some confusion of what features do/do not appear in the S1 in comparison to the others 🤞
I love the S1, after the recent firmware updates and future announced update it is the best bang for buck camera on the market particularly for filmmakers on a tight budget. I prefer it to my S5 but I'm not a vlogger so the flip outscored doesn't phase me
Absolutely agree with you. For picture quality in its standard frame rates (25/50 30/60),i love it. Slow motion is where it can lack but overall, I'm really pleased with it.
Thinking of getting either S1 or S5 for video. Why do you like the S1 over the S5?
Watched it, loved it, liked it 🙂
As always- informative and helpful!
Thank you Jordan!
Thanks so much! As ever, I really appreciate you continuing to watch my content 👍👊
It's very valuable content for me, really like the way you present it, making it easy to digest 👍
Just found your channel. Man your reviews are super good! One of the better reviewers! Subbed
Thanks so much! Really glad you're a fan 😀
The S1 is amazing, coming from a S1 user. weight helps with stability and it feels solid, screen works when needed but most people using their cameras for work, we have the ninja v. great review and opinion but I use this more than my eva 1.
I have an S5 but I have been thinking of getting a S1 because it does not have a flip screen. My camera before the S5 was a Fuji Xh-1 which I miss and highly recommend but I wanted fullframe. I really mostly just do photography. Still debating...
Thanks @Jordan Lee! Since I'm looking in to buy a S1 this video was very helpful. Since I own the BMPCC 6k like to see if the S1 + Blackmagic Video Assist 7" 12G with RAW recording can be a good workflow. Have you looked in to this? (By the way, you just got another subscriber)
Really pleased you found it helpful David! I've got plans to get my hands on a Video Assist so I should be releasing a video in the future, and comparing it to the 12bit output on the Ninja V. Really looking forward to trying it out!
Thanks for subscribing, too 😀
Hey Jordan! Why does my camera not have all the High Speed Video framerates?! Even when I switch to PAL I don't have them. I have 48/24 in 4k, 60/30p in 4k, 150/30p in FHD, 180/30p in FHD.
I love my S1!! Great video man!
Thanks Glen!!
Thanks for doing this video, you present wonderfully, however I’d say the NO1 reason to buy the S1 (apart from the fact it’s a brilliant camera) is the fact that it has the tilt screen and not the now ubiquitous side hinged flip out screen.
To use the screen on a side hinged LCD camera, I have to use my left hand, find the groove, pull out, twist, re-align then look to the left of my lens as the camera points straight ahead, then to put it back in I have to do all the same again... aaand repeat. But if I want the option of continuing to have a low angle or high angle I need to leave the screen out which is obtrusive and conspicuous nearly doubling the width of the camera. A side hinged screen is for two things only, shooting around corners and shooting yourself. The tilt is so much faster, unobtrusive and convenient, flick of a finger and it’s in and out. I understand why people think they want a side hinged but camera manufacturers now seem obsessed with only offering them (LUMIX S5/Sony A7S3/Fujifilm X-T4 and all the Canons) it’s a worrying trend now that seems driven by UA-camrs moaning about not having a side hinged screen as all they go on about is being able to see themselves.
After shooting 300+ weddings I’ve never needed to shoot myself ever professionally.
Thanks.
I have and love the S1, I love the screen on it, but the history of built in articulating screens on professional video cameras begins and ends with side hinge. If I am shooting a two angle interview, and I'm setting to the left of my B cam, I can't flip the S1 screen out to face me. This has been a pain on more than one shoot, and I don't always want to use a monitor to gain the ability to keep tabs on whether the camera is still rolling, running low on batteries, still good on focus peaking, etc.
That's why the S1H and it's tilting side mounted flip screen was such a brilliant idea. It appeases both crowds as best as possible.
@@nickharris5231 buy a Neewer F200 monitor. Only £100! ☺️
@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse There are times where you must travel light, and the camera just needs to do the job on its own.
@@nickharris5231 ok, not sure the monitor would be much of a hinderance weight nor size wise, but hey, your choice! Just tryna be helpful...
@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse You're just missing the point I'm trying to make. A camera can either do something or it can't. I'm simply outlining a scenario where it's extremely useful to have a fully articulating screen. And frankly, there are tons of situations where I don't like being weighed down with a monitor, especially on a mirrorless body where it make the weight distribution all vertical. I would always prefer a camera that offers me the opportunity to not have to rig it up for basic functions.
Great video. Love my S1. Just hate the lack of a tilt screen though.
Thanks so much!
Huh? It does have a tilt screen lol. Doesn’t have a swivel screen
The screnn is what i prefer :) No troubles whith the hdmi cable.
I don't think that audio with high framerate makes any sense, it's such a hassle to unlink the video in post and change the speed of the audio or align with video you might as well make a quick clip or add sounds in post. Also mostly slow-mo shot's are b-roll so the sound will come from a roll or sounddesign.
That third axis is for low (or high) shots in the portrait orientation. How is that not useful? I use this quite often on my X-H1. I don’t shoot video nor do I blog with my mirrorless bodies so not everybody prefers the flip-out fully-articulating screen. I’m not buying an S1 in 2021 but rather an S1R in 2021. $1800 renewed on Amazon!
For portraits the screen is absolutely great, for that exact reason. It has since come in handy for when im shooting social content (9x16), but I think for any traditional on-the-go filmmaking, a flip out screen would always be most popular 🙂
Great price for the S1R 👏
lol the "flip to the right" function on the screen is for vertical shooting..so many reviewers screw this up and seems so baffled by it when it seems so obvious what its for LOL
You're correct, but the same/similar angle can be adopted with the flip-out screen anyway, and if there's opportunity for more flexibility in terms of available angles, then I for one will always prefer that.
The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a flip-out screen. I have actually decided to go in for the s5 instead, because of this. Even though I could go for the S1H, I am also a photographer and I'm pushed away by the AA filter on the S1H. Hopefully, we may receive firmware updates in the future that will improve the AF drastically; fingers crossed.
I've had a few people confused when Ive said I don't like the S1 screen, but it's surprising how much it can affect our enjoyment using it. Would have intrigued many more people if it had a flip-out screen for sure!
It's a shame to say, but I'd be surprised if they improved their AF more than they already claim to have. My fingers are crossed for PDAF in the 'S2' whenever/whatever that may be... 🤞
@@JordanLeeVideo I think the lack of a flip out screen is purely your personal gripe, you seem to be hammering the point to detract from what is a great piece of kit.
If it's an issue, why not just bang on a cheap monitor? If it's a size issue, then the S1 was never the ideal option for you.
If you want to use a flip out screen just to make utube content, then you could of saved a shed load of money and used your iphone Instead!
@@50450720 You'll find on other videos on my channel but i always have been, and will be, a big fan of the Lumix S1. Its a great camera, and was something I looked heavily into before purchasing one. At the end of the day, there are very few cameras people can consider as 'perfect' as that's always a subjective opinion. In this case, this is just one disadvantage of the camera that i personally overlook, but am simply wanting to make others aware of it, whatever their experience/knowledge/techie level is 👍
@@JordanLeeVideo then you could of just said it in a professional maner instead of producing this total bollocks!
You have a duty to inform NOT mislead.
@@50450720 Sorry you're not a fan of my content! At the same time i appreciate your passion for Panasonic. I hope you continue to enjoy using them 👍
Thank you for this amazing Video sir. I just bought a Panasonic S1 and I would love to know how you are being in focus the whole Video ? Are you using Manual Focus and if not, can you please tell me which autofocus setting to choose when doing such Videos. Thanks in advance!
Thanks so much! I use Human/Animal AF for all pieces to camera, and I believe I've just turned the sensitivity down slightly to minimise the risk of excessive focus hunting. But I use manual focus for all of the product content 👍
I have S1..
Lovely video footage and stills..
One of the world best full frame and Cinema 4k camera..
I know this video came out a year ago but I UA-cam's magic search engine only brought it to my attention right now.
Although the point you made are true, S1's and Lumix's biggest issue to the into account is the Panasonic contrast based AF DFD system.
Everything else that you mentioned, especially with this click-bite titles, are between subjective to nitpicking and you can should slow mo in 10 bit with the vlog update.
I wish you picked another title like "4.5 things you should know before choosing S1/H cameras"
Apologies! I no longer own the camera anymore so I haven't kept on top of updates, but that's great to know. I appreciate the feedback, too - thanks!
None of those cons bother me too much, so I guess the next step is to pull the credit card! Thanks for the video Jordan!
I actually love the size of the S1/S1R
Organic sensors will likely take the game to a whole other level...Panasonic and Fujifilm hold the tech licensing for those. Dropping any year now!
👀👀 Definitely shall be keeping an eye on that!
S1 I fantastic camera! I am using it already for 2 years and I do not own xqd card....and you don't need xqd... for video.
Absolutely! The only reason I use XQDs is because I've had a card go on me before so I have to dual record everything for my own sanity 😂
In s1 the HD video is good?
I'm a big fan of it, yeah. I've started shooting 4K a lot more recently so when I do shoot in 1080 I can see a difference but for the majority of standard corporate/UA-cam content, it's a great image with nice dynamic range and clarity 👍
The best 1080p is on S1h.
The screen goes to the right for vertical shots.
Great little feature to have for social content!
Dang some pretty weak reasons not to get the s1. Your kinda splitting hairs in my opinion, however its very insightful and i appreciate that 👍.
Appreciate your feedback Aaron! I'll admit, you're right. Maybe that's me in denial that the S1 is a cracking little camera.
The title is rediculous, the S1 gives 5.9k from a full frame sensor 12 bit output, great ibis, decent AF, with full size hdmi, good weather sealing, great build quality.
The advantages over the S5 or the blackmagic cameras are massive, why not highlight those advantages? Or why not tell us what camera in the same price range is better, honestly, unless your paying £4000 or more on the canon c70 or sony fx3/6 there's nothing that beats the value of the S1 when it comes to bang per buck!
I appreciate all of your comments! If this was a standard review I'd of course mentioned many advantages of the S1. It is a great camera, 100% hence why I have it. But for the purpose of this video being a list of reasons against, that's purely why your points, and many more, weren't mentioned. I do already have a video going over the S1 in more detail too 👍
@@JordanLeeVideo the issue is that headlines grab attention, and your choice of headline is totally misleading. Why not produce something genuinely useful like “key differences between the S1 and the S5 and which is right for you”. That might actually of been of some benefit.
Is vlog free for s1 now ?
Nope.
Unfortunately not but Panasonic have learned their lesson and started included it as standard in later models 👍
Perfect video except one thing. Turn off the clicking thing, its so disturbing. We want to listen to YOU and it would even be without any "noise" . That is how good you are 🤗 I have one FZ 2000, my first Panasonic, one GH5, 2 S5, 2 S1. I love them all in different ways. The four I meen. Its not the fastes but good enaugh and together with the best colorsience (not including the Arri Alexa though 😅/🥵) The only camera I am lacking is an gloobal shutter camera with better updating "engine" in everything, but until then its fine. (don't shoot sports nowdays, in that case it would have been an Canon R3)
Ha! Thanks Magnus, pleased that you enjoyed it!
Global shutters would be a dream to have. I think nowadays we are getting closer and closer to eradicating the need for the higher end cinema cameras because of all the features we expect in the prosumer ranges. It would be interesting to see where we're at in 5 years time... 😬
Get the S5 if you want the horrible vlog scene. This screen is much better for photography stills: it tilts inwards so you can get low angles in portrait orientation. This camera is more stills oriented.
Whoops stubled into the video review of the camera, time to go back to photography land
I think Panasonic would be the perfect camera Brand if they would have AF also for their L mount Sigmas
And now, it's finally here!
Flip out screen okay for vloggers. This is a pro camera
Surely a more versatile screen makes the camera more versatile for creators as a whole, regardless of which type of content being made? The S1h blends all the perks of various screen types into one, so everyone is happy
I'm torn between this, S1 and the newly announced X-H2s
I guess that depends heavily on what you plan to use it for and which lenses you plan to buy. If it’s mostly a video camera for you and you prefer AF with your videos, don’t hesitate and buy the H2s. Just be careful which lenses you use, since the majority of XF lenses ‘suck’ at video. The new 18-120, the 16-55 and 16-80 are decent to good for video. Of course Fuji has some excellent, but expensive, cine lenses. When you use the camera for stills and esp. in available/low light, the S1 delivers superior images even compared to the new H2s. From iso3200 onwards it is producing a much cleaner image with its bigger sensor with lower resolution. Files are also easier to color grade. When you plan to use the camera as part of a big rig with an external recorder, external xlr connector and mics and a focus pull mech. definitely buy the S1. The MF of Fuji is crap. We’ve had quite a few Fuji cameras here in the studio (incl. the H2s for a trial run) and they’re really nice with good IQ, but we’ve also experienced way more reliability issues than with any other brand we use. The S1/R/H are truly professional grade here. The only downside of Lumix is AF-C which is less reliable than Canon, Sony and Nikon and a bit at the level of previous Fuji cameras such as the H1 and T2. AF-S mode is perfect and tracking is decent. Finally, you can buy a mint condition pre-owned S1 for less than half of the price of a H2s.
Amazing response Jacob! Everything that you said, I second that 🙄😂
One shall not buy since it's flicker in slow motion unavoidable..shutter speed blocked at 150 and 125 flicker 😭😭😭😭...so bad about this camera
My guess is that this issue is caused by the light sources you are using rather than the camera, as I've personally never encountered this issue. Do you work using shutter angle or speed?
But I already did 😢…
There's plenty of advantages of the S1 though which definitely outweigh its limitations!
The S1 is an awesome camera, watch Luca Bono Studios and Josh Cameron to see what can be done with it.
I got the S1 too, over s5, IBIS, view finder and fullhdmi is a good thing, and finally what to have something looking better after using sony a7III, not with a toy on a film plan. Price becomes the same after u buy Vlog profile
why you misleading with crappy titles ... just speak for your self .. people can just buy whatever they want .. without saying DONT buy and I wanna buy.. cheeres to freedom. GEZZZZ
Sorry but you have videos with 'Trust Me' in your video titles 😂 So it's unfair to blame others who influence their titles.
Plus the title must have been catchy enough for you to view, which I appreciate! 👍
@Jordan Lee I didn't click play..I commented on your video title as you are a dictator command people what to buy and what not
Honestly what a useless video.
The S1 is cheaper than ever and at the same time better than ever with Prores Raw and Blackmaig Raw and the classleading dynamic range and your whole video revolves around 5 irrelevant facts that you can see with a quick look at the data sheet.
Sorry you weren't a fan of the video! I'd personally advise you to just treat the video as my subjective opinions of the camera aimed towards hobbyists and not necessarily full time professionals, so not everyone will agree with what I say 👍
Im guessing you already own the S1, so why you watching this?
Youve got a shiney bald head
Well spotted
I've just bought a GH5 and adore it in every aspect, except for low light. This is why I might possibly get an S1, if the price is right. I didn't know that this camera wouldn't have an articulating screen, just expected it when coming from the GH5.
Perhaps the S5 would be a decent upgrade if you're mostly after the lowlight aspect? Also due to that having the flip LCD in comparison to the S1. They also have a few good cashback offers on at the moment in some countries 👍
S5 owner here. Low light is incredible. ISO 6400 with no problems. Could probably go higher if necessary.
@@JordanLeeVideo the mini hdmi port of the S5 WILL fail eventually, it's not reliable, it was used to keep the size of the camera down to attract gh5 users looking to upgrade to FF.
Panasonic dont use mini hdmi on their pro camera range.