Not yet. He can still redeem himself by coming clean. His career may end and he will definitely serve jail time, but his friends will know. If he tells them the truth, if he tells everyone the truth, they will forgive him. That will be what separates him from Secretariat.
I've been listening to Think about me by Calenraps for a couple years now and i knew that was John Krasinski's voice but i just FINALLY FOUND WHERE THE SAMPLE COMES FROM. Anyway, im fucking psyched i finally found it and have confirmation that it is John
It gets sadder when you think about, knowing Bojack's parents, they probably straight up told him that his hero and role model cheated and then killed himself
@@ChuckySkip how is that cheating though, it doesn't give U an advantage in the race, only If you bet last place in you it would be fraud, but Not cheating
Yeah, as someone who grew up in a very chaotic household, I didn't dislike my parents but school was a refreshing break of pace and a more stable thing for me, and I can't imagine how much more that would have been if I grew up in a house like Bojack's with his parents.
Sadness is part of life. Sometimes, to understand a great happiness it helps to understand a great sadness. When you're sad, you're at your lowest. Now you can say that this low will not stop you from going forward. That the other low points will hit less and be simple dips on the road back to happiness.
One time, after living with my abusive dad for years, I got so crazy fucked up, I took a knife, went into my parents room while they were asleep, and started crying. I didn't do anything that night. So now, when something"bad" happens, like getting bad grades, or loosing someone, well I just think back to that moment, and how I was able to move on from that and be happy again. So maybe, maybe that means I can surpass anything. I dunno. That's what I do when I get sad.
I love how Secretariat’s speech can be taken two different ways: On one hand, it represents moving forward, no matter the cost. It’s a stoic and tough attitude. Just push past life’s problems, and you’ll get out okay. On the other hand, it represents failure to accept the past. You don’t acknowledge it, you just run past it. And sometimes that means leaving people behind, even those who want to help you.
That's why I think balance is very important you don't wanna be so miserable stuck in the past but you also don't want to completely ignore it as well .
It'll be all the more difficult when Bojack actually does kill himself. The only question is whether no one be there to stop him, or will there "Be plenty of people around when he kills himself."
This explains so much about how screwed up BoJack is. Secretariat was the closest thing he had to a positive role model, and right after telling him the importance of battling through depression he let it overcome him. This probably scrambled what little moral compass young BoJack had.
The Spiel wasn't about battling depression. It was about running from your problems. Secretariat is a lot like Bojack, and their go to move is to run as fast as they can from their problems. But things finally caught up with him. In the end, Secretariat couldn't outrun his problems forever. Or maybe his suicide is his final act of running away.
lakobause I know how bojack feels to me my positive role model was hunter s Thompson a famous journalist who inspired me to become a journalist like him I have almost all of his books and movies about and watched almost all of his interviews
I just realized that kid BoJack asking Secretariat if he gets his joke is exactly like BoJack as an adult asking his audience if they got his jokes when he was bombing his stand up and Herb advised him not to do that anymore.
I'm a grown ass man and my mind was blown the first time my fiancee told me "It's okay to be sad." I had just lost a good job I thought I had in the bag and she gave me a hug and let me cry it out for as long as I needed. Anyone else previous in my life would've just told me to suck it up and move on. She made me feel comfortable with that middle step of getting it all out and THEN moving on with my life.
The saddest thing about this scene is that Secretariat expresses this philosophy with such steadfast conviction. But when the time came where he faced his greatest moment of people holding him back, dragging him through the dirt of his past...he couldn't follow his own advice.
I know a lot of people talk about the show being extrapolated from the "Why the long face" or "A horse walks into a bar" jokes, but I've never seen anyone mention "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink". There's a lot of... negative imagery between horses and water in this show.
If you think about ti, aside from being sleep drinking water is the only moment horses are really "exposed" to their environment, weak against other predators
+Jacob Hewett I think he did, thats why he is pushing himself to restart his career. The who show is about a deeply flawed man who is finally getting up to push forawrd
+Denzel Nanor GET IT?! Because Bojack is a horse, and Secretariat is a horse. And they both have "horse face". Because they are sad. And they are horses. GET IT?!
+Eddy Navarro I'm not entirely sure what to tell you...watch this clip and then watch the final scene of the season 3 finale. Running in the season 3 moment is different - instead of away from something (e.g. the escape from LA, the bender with Sarah Lynn), Bojack witnesses running in its purest form, and that's with purpose beyond selfishness and closer to something akin to destiny. I'm projecting here, and so is Bojack, and ultimately, I'm still trying to figure it out. But the OP is right - a whole new meaning after the third season finale. It's not yet defined for me, but it's still striking.
I really need to watch this show all over. Its been months since I lost watched any bojack and I binged this viewing of s3. I didnt piece this scene an the end of s3 together till after i watched this clip. I cant wait for s4. It is crazy how a cartoon can make you rethink life. Secretariat is one of my fav irl horses of all time, even tho im not into horse racing. An to see that scene when i did. I kinda teared up. It was depressing to know how he passed irl, but to see that scene was a bit devastating.
That's one reason I love this show: you will roll your eyes at BJ's goofyness one minute, laugh so hard you get out of breath the next, and the next they kick you square in the balls. There is depth here. There is real shit. One of the best written characters on TV. Ever.
Eric Rowland "It's about real shit," is EXACTLY how I've described the show to friends. Wrapped in the package of stoner animated comedy, Bojack just nails truth after truth.
Eric Rowland The best line ever written for Bojack so far is this one. Bojack: My point is, I don't understand how people live. It's amazing to me that people wake up every morning and say "Yeah, another day lets do it" how do people do it? I don't know how.
It doesn't surprise me that it didn't work out for Secretariat. I had a really miserable experience after college (graduated during a recession, had a horrible break-up, depression, moving back in with parents, the whole nine yards) and pushed myself through it by pouring myself into work. No friends, no romance, just moving forward. Pushing all my negative feelings away. I was going to make it or break. Then I finally got my first steady paycheck and my own apartment. Five long years but I did it. Everything I wanted. And I spent my first weekend just crying. All I did was push those feelings of failure, rejection, and misery aside. I didn't acknowledge any of it. I told myself I was fine. I wasn't fine. It's good to know you can keep running. But you have to stop and catch your breath every now and again.
I had a very similar experience, graduating a few years ago in the recession, having to move back in with my parents who live in the middle of nowhere, getting a terrible, abusive job at a big box store (you can't treat the people who work at these places kindly enough, btw), barely making enough money to pay my student loans let alone get an apartment or have a life. Then finally, after a while of that and applying like hell virtually everywhere, I finally landed a good, decent-paying job in my field - on the other side of the country. I "made it", but it was by far the worst anxiety and depression I ever had. I lived close to the ocean, and constantly thought about how I'd bring my towel and book to the beach so people would think it was an accident when I drown myself. Tony Hale (Buster Bluth) has a good interview on 'speakeasy' with Paul F Tompkins (Mr. Peanutbutter) where he talks about this post-success depression. I think part of it is indeed sort of staving off how miserable you really are, but part is also as Tony describes - placing all your hopes into this one event in your life, and then when it finally comes and you still feel the same, it's all the more crushing.
I'm always so surprised at how many people don't know that Secretariat was a real horse. Of course, he didn't appear on talk shows giving younger horses life pro tips and he wasn't banned for life for cheating and he didn't commit suicide, but he was an amazing racer who broke records and he was also a beautiful shade of red.
I wonder two things about this scene, both which really get to me. 1. Was his radio on when his car was parked? Which could mean he heard what the radio commentators were saying about him. 2. No one stopped him from jumping. Regardless of whether he was Secretariat or not, someone on the bridge was about to commit suicide. There are cars honking and traffic is backed up, so they know something is up. What really gets to me is the fact that he takes a breath and it's like he realizes that what the radio is saying is true and the fact that no one came out to stop him from jumping.
Rolando Martinez this is 3 years late but let me just say this. Sometimes people don’t think you are gonna kill yourself when you’re standing off of a bridge looking down. Other times people don’t care or think someone else will try to help you. This is known as the bystander effect; the more bystanders there are, the less likely people will help you because of the diffusion of responsibility. I mean I’m a cynical person. I think people just don’t care really if they were to see someone take their own life. They’d rather videotape it for views and clicks
This is similar to "Dont stop dancing." Which makes me think that Bojack internalized this advise and evolved it into what he eventually told Sarah Lynn. Don't stop running, all that matters is what's ahead Which was Secretariat's suicide Don't stop dancing until the curtains fall The curtains also represent death
The curtains were always meant to allude to death as well because when Gina sings the song the last verse is "Nothing's certain but the curtain" Before abruptly ending.
yeah! and when secretariat said "don't stop running" it also connects to the song "don't stop dancing." i noticed that throughout the show a common theme is, like don't stop until you drop (or until the curtain calls) i think someone else could explain this better lol...
@@alexverdana2435 yeah, this whole theme of never stopping also comes up with Beatrice and her parents with the time's arrow sentiment, "Time's arrow neither stands still nor reverses. It merely marches forward."
The weak breeze whispers nothing The water screams sublime His feet shift, teeter-totter Deep breath, stand back, it’s time Toes untouch the overpass Soon he’s water bound Eyes locked shut but peek to see The view from halfway down A little wind, a summer sun A river rich and regal A flood of fond endorphins Brings a calm that knows no equal You’re flying now You see things much more clear than from the ground It’s all okay, it would be Were you not now halfway down Thrash to break from gravity What now could slow the drop All I’d give for toes to touch The safety back at top But this is it, the deed is done Silence drowns the sound Before I leaped I should’ve seen The view from halfway down I really should’ve thought about The view from halfway down I wish I could’ve known about The view from halfway down
a lot of people in the comments of this video are talking about how Bojack didn't hear what Secretariat was saying, but that's actually not the truth, although it may seem that way. It was revealed by the creators of the show that in the scene at the beginning of season 2 where Bojack is watching this interview air and his parents start fighting, him moving closer to the TV and turning the volume up was meant to show that Bojack drowned out the sound of his parents and was intently focused on what secretariat was saying, internalizing Secretariat's advice. Bojack goes on in life to continually use this advice and run from his problems, trying to forget his past. I remember seeing Raphael Bob-Waksberg confirm this somewhere but am having trouble finding it now, will update if i do.
Secretariat probably felt this before dying but being in Bojack's dream, this poem is all about Bojack (And it's actually one of the things many people surviving suicide attempt said. They regretted it)
SPOILER ALERT I just finished seasons 1 and 2 2 was just...damn Bojack can't get a break he lost both of his friends and then....damn i thought he was gonna commit suicide too but i guess that was his break gettinh his mooch of a friend back... SPOILER ALERT
That's why I love this show . It's easy to assume from the trailers that it'll be another dumb show . Then you watch it and discover that this is a show with substance and real meaning .Hope season 3 will not disappoint ! 😁
So that's a precursor to the "don't stop dancing" message. The philosophy of never truly confronting your demons and problems and just running away from them. Only for them to get you anyway at the end.
Well the demons will catch you if you don't accept their existence. But, it does not mean, you let them to hold you back. Moving forward with acceptance.
I do agree it's amazing and a good way to get over depression, but the last scene, a month after that interview, "You can be the fastest runner in the world, but you can't outrun the truth" And season 2, Bojacks mum calls him and tells him, "You're Bojack Horseman... there's no cure for that" I love this show and its complexities and relativities
BoJack, when you get sad, you run straight ahead and you keep running forward, no matter what. There are people in your life who are gonna try to hold you back, slow you down, but you don't let them. Don't you stop running and don't you ever look behind you. There's nothing for you behind you. All that exists is what's ahead.
What’s even worse is that the advice Secretariat gave Bojack sounds poetic and inspiring and all, but its basically telling Bojack to run from his past problems and not properly deal with them.
@@catherinecao4810 The advice people give is almost always a subconscious attempt to validate that person’s own actions to themselves through the other.
UGH even though he's only on screen for a few minutes, you can sense the deep pain behind Secretariat's seemingly motivational speech. John Kransinski was a good casting choice for this part.
guys I don't think Secretariat meant run as in running away from your problems, I think he meant run as in pushing forward, don't let the past hold you back and learn to move on to greater things. I think he meant to grow from those problems. But that's just one interpretation.
I think that by running he was literally trying to run away from his problems. When he couldnt run anymore and like, had to face his problems (since he used running to forget about them), he resorted to the final solution to sadness, suicide. But thats my interpretation
When someone says something, an idea, an advice, it can have a lot of interpretations, not all of them, but like in this case, running foward can mean a lot of things.
It is ridiculous how much this makes even more sense after the series ending. This was season 1: what a great show, what a stunning writing consistence
Talks about running and striving and struggling towards Success in one scene, able to step out of his own demons. Then in the next scene, commits suicide, because he can't outrun any of the pain, not anymore. Everything he thought was an accomplishment was nothing but empty accolades, and the horrifying truth was, he has no one beside him in the end.
The problem with Secretariat's advice is what happens when you accidentally look back. And for Secretariat he killed himself. Bojack runs into this problem a lot. He keeps moving forward and spirals downward when he looks back.
Everyone talking about Secretariat's bad advice here like they completely missed Bojack's WORLD CLASS punnery Get it? The right track? Because Bojack is a horse and Secretariat is a horse? And horses run on tracks? Do you get the joke about the track?
"The View From Halfway Down" speech Secretariat made makes this scene even sadder that the last thing he thought during the fall was how much he regretted jumping and not realising there was another way before it was too late.
I mean, that episode where Secretariat makes the speech was all in Bojack’s head. We have no idea what the real Secretariat’s thoughts were when jumping, although we do know that Bojack may have suspected that those were Secretariat’s thoughts. And that the episode is basically Bojack’s own view from halfway down- when he’s just attempted suicide, but realized, in what could be his last moments, that he doesn’t want to die.
Has anyone noticed that when the scene starts, Secretariat has no wrinkles and by the end, he has some bags under his eyes, as if hearing BoJack's letter made him feel older?
"And I remember one time, a fan asked me, "Hey, um, you know that episode where the horse has to give Ethan a pep talk, after Ethan finds out his crush only asked him to the dance because her friends were having a dorkiest date contest? In all the shots of the horse, you can see a paper coffee cup on the kitchen counter, but in the shots of Ethan, the coffee cup's missing. Was that because the show was making a statement, about the fluctuant subjectivity of memory and how even two people can experience the same moment in entirely different ways?" And I didn't have the heart to be, like, "No, man, some crew guy just left their coffee cup in the shot." So instead, I was like, "Yeah.""
No it's not? He didn't say anything bad about autism or autistic people, simply stated the fact that they are more sensitive towards details. Noticing details can be an asset sometimes
Watching this scene, and then seeing the wide shot at the end before he hits the water hits differently now after hearing his poem in season 6. I wonder if he opened his eyes to see the water now that hes halfway down.
Only recently found out this voice actor is the same guy that did Jim in the office, honestly I didn't think much of him after that show but this is some amazing voice work
Mr Rogers was for this reason such a valuable show. He never said to just pretend to smile. He never said that you HAD to cry either. He just said feelings are normal, if you are sad it's ok to be sad, if you are angry it's ok to be angry, if you're numb and confused and want to be alone for a while then it's ok to be numb and confused and want to be alone for a while. ...But what we should try to do is express how we feel, talk about it or find some other safe way to get the feeling out. You didn't hafta feel ashamed or weird for having any feeling or being different. And you didn't always get an explanation why sometimes the world is a nasty unfair place. But you could always talk about it at home, or go someplace safer to find a more trustworthy outlet if you needed to. I wish more modern shows both for kids and adults would approach this.
I know that it doesn’t add to the meaning of the scene but I just noticed this and I think it’s hilarious when the radio guy says “it’s the 70’s! you can’t cheat in sports and get away with it!” During the steroid era
I feel like if young Bojack heard what Secretariat said (instead of being interrupted by his parents arguing) he would’ve had a more hopeful and less miserable childhood
I don't think he meant run as in away. From your problems. I think he meant run as in go forward, don't look back. Like meet the Robinsons. 'keep moving forward' .
@@s.i.m.poster6823 I really doubt it, considering he killed himself when he was unable to run away from the consequences of his mistakes. He didn't push foward. Bojack also ran away from all his problems for the longest time. He didn't want to face what he did. "There is nothing behind you" is like the past doesn't matter but it does. Your mistakes run after you and you gotta deal with the bad you did. Running away instead of solving is bad. I made many mistakes like that.
Also, the creators confirmed that Bojack did hear the advice and that the scene of him scooting closer to the TV and turning up the volume to drown out the sound of the argument was meant to signify that he focused on and internalized that advice hard. To his own detriment, because running away from all his problems and never addressing anything from the past led to worse problems throughout his life, and likely Secretariat’s. The fact that Secretariat gave Bojack this advice and later committed suicide is meant to show that said advice was fundamentally flawed, and didn’t work out for Secretariat, either.
This is the best scene to show someone new to the show. It spoils nothing important in the show. It reveals no main character. But it informs about the humour, and soul crushing themes of depression and udder despair of like. Do you get it? Did you get my joke? Please tell me you got it? Di...
The punchline to this is that Bojack never heard this advice when he saw this and ended up being spiteful towards the people in his life because his parents yelled over it. A great setup to another heartbreaking character development. Fantastic stuff and I really love the last line that really has such a profound ring to it "You can be the fastest runner in the world, but you can't outrun...the truth." and no one gave a damn when Secretariat took his life. Life at its most cruel.
It's not about running from your past, it's about running to your future. There's no "undo" button in life. What's done, is done. There's no way to change that. No resets, no second chances. Looking back in life, you see a series of failures. Some of them might not be your fault. You can do all the "right things", and still fail. This is the sad truth about life. And sometimes, you screwed up things all on your own. Knowing what you do now, of course, you'd do it differently. But it doesn't matter, because it doesn't change anything. All you have is tomorrow. Tomorrow, I'll be a little bit stronger. Tomorrow, I'll be a little bit smarter. Tomorrow, I'll be better than I was today...
"I am a good kid, and I like to play, and I like to go to school. But sometimes I get sad. What do you do when you get sad? How do you not be sad? Sincerely, BoJack." First time watcher of the series, just finished S1 last night; I had to come back to this scene, because...I dunno. It struck a chord? Like it really hit me deep, because I could relate to being sad sometimes like BoJack and having a not so good home life, but still be able to go to school and like it, as 9yo BoJack said he did. I believed I was a good kid, despite emotional and verbal physical abuse from my parents, I liked to play, and I could count myself as happy, but sometimes I would get really, really sad. It meant so much to me that BoJack could have someone like Secretariat -- who he looked up to so much -- say all these things, and honestly say he didn't have a happy childhood either, but went onto win the triple crown. 'Cause I never really had anyone like that. And even as a young adult, and I have things to be happy about, sometimes I still don't feel happy, and I get sad, so so much. Though -- judging from the way BoJack turned out as an adult (and foolishly reading the comments section 💀) Secretariat's words never got to him, did they?
I bet they did. But if your idol tells you to keep running. To battle through depression and saadness and then that very same person jumps off a bridge just a month later... Well. What is the lesson a 9yo gets from that? When the person you admired the most falls to the same demons that haunt you what hope is left for youself?
I've watched this show more times than I can count, and have had this specific video liked for multiple years at this point. But it always hurts to watch. Each beat is an additional punch to the gut. That bell sound is so haunting.
"When you get sad, you run, straight ahead - and you keep running foward, no matter what. There are people in your life who are gonna try and hold you back, slow you down, but you don't let them. Don't you stop running and don't you ever look behind you, there's nothing for you behind you, all that exists is what's ahead.
The most depressing thing about this is that Bojack never even got to hear his idol’s advice cause his parents were fighting too loud he couldn’t hear the TV.
this has got to be my favorite joke of the entire show. It's so sad yet I burst out laughing because the writters are so god damn brilliant at dark comedy.
What I really like about this scene is that, regardless of how good Secretariat’s advice actually was, he was genuine in delivering it. He could’ve easily kept his happy face on and told Bojack “just be happy,” but instead he takes his letter seriously and tries to give him what he thinks is the best advice he can.
I just realized Bojack Horseman's videos on youtube have some of the comment sections where people talk overtly about depression. It's nice to see this serie creating a discussion.
One of the greatest season openers of all time tbh, set the theme for the season and presented a life lesson about the dangers of denial and repression without being too to preachy
I just realized how Bojack twisted these words for himself. Instead of "dont stop running", we got "dont stop dancing". And Sarah Lynn took that to her grave
i don't know why bojack is so underrated. really. i can't describe how relatable this serie is to me. must watch if you are or were struggling with your emotions.
I really love that all those years have passed and BoJack still did what Secretariat told him, each time things got hard and he felt sad he run either to New Mexico or on drunk adventures with Sarah Lynn.
"It gets easier. Every day, it gets a little easier. But you gotta do it every day. That's the hard part. But it does get easier."
Aaron Nixon Damn straight! Thanks for quoting this here. We needed it.
...okay
It doesn't.
You're wrong
Luke Ward Maybe it would if you did it everyday.
the sad thing is, he did grow up to be just like secretariat.
well he might just end like it ,too
Periwinkle I mean he hasn't been caught but he basically cheated on Secretariat.
muffinn No. Nope. Bojack will power through. He can do it.
Not yet. He can still redeem himself by coming clean. His career may end and he will definitely serve jail time, but his friends will know. If he tells them the truth, if he tells everyone the truth, they will forgive him. That will be what separates him from Secretariat.
@@caseypeanuts3222 That wasn't even him in the movie.
Am I the only one who didn't know this was John Krasinski till my 3rd watch through? lol
Bruh how did you end up here
How are you here?
@@buttsbrown2442 fuck off
@@buttsbrown2442 UA-cam is so far from family friendly lmfao dipshit
I've been listening to Think about me by Calenraps for a couple years now and i knew that was John Krasinski's voice but i just FINALLY FOUND WHERE THE SAMPLE COMES FROM. Anyway, im fucking psyched i finally found it and have confirmation that it is John
It gets sadder when you think about, knowing Bojack's parents, they probably straight up told him that his hero and role model cheated and then killed himself
Naaaa, his parents wouldn't even know he has a hero, they hardly remember Bojack's name!
I don't think they had to tell him, seeing of what a big fan he was he heard it right when they announced it on the radio or TV.
How did he cheated?
@@ElMonoPensador they didn't give any details
@@ChuckySkip how is that cheating though, it doesn't give U an advantage in the race, only If you bet last place in you it would be fraud, but Not cheating
The fact Kid Bojack points out he likes to go to school, considering his parents, must show how much he really didn't like being around them.
It's the little details
Well spotted! I completely agree, this lines up perfectly with bojacks childhood experience. Poor Bojack 😔
Poor baby Bojack
Yeah, as someone who grew up in a very chaotic household, I didn't dislike my parents but school was a refreshing break of pace and a more stable thing for me, and I can't imagine how much more that would have been if I grew up in a house like Bojack's with his parents.
can confirm, school was is bad for me but being at home is WAY worse
Imagine a child asking you with utter innocence "What do you do when you get sad? How do you not get sad? "
It's so endearing and sad.
Sadness is part of life. Sometimes, to understand a great happiness it helps to understand a great sadness. When you're sad, you're at your lowest. Now you can say that this low will not stop you from going forward. That the other low points will hit less and be simple dips on the road back to happiness.
@James Furey I feel like you could benefit more from some life advice than the kid.
You do the same thing when you get happy. Enjoy it
One time, after living with my abusive dad for years, I got so crazy fucked up, I took a knife, went into my parents room while they were asleep, and started crying. I didn't do anything that night.
So now, when something"bad" happens, like getting bad grades, or loosing someone, well I just think back to that moment, and how I was able to move on from that and be happy again. So maybe, maybe that means I can surpass anything. I dunno. That's what I do when I get sad.
John Krasinski absolutely killed this monologue.
Yeah he did ,👌
Krasinski is God in disguise.
He just has this natural charisma that oozes out of his voice. It's amazing.
It almost made me believe in what he was saying despite him saying it to another fictional character in a cartoon about depressed furries and people
I didn't even realize it until a few days ago 😩💗
I love how Secretariat’s speech can be taken two different ways:
On one hand, it represents moving forward, no matter the cost. It’s a stoic and tough attitude. Just push past life’s problems, and you’ll get out okay.
On the other hand, it represents failure to accept the past. You don’t acknowledge it, you just run past it. And sometimes that means leaving people behind, even those who want to help you.
Bojack interpreted the latter way
That's why I think balance is very important you don't wanna be so miserable stuck in the past but you also don't want to completely ignore it as well .
"There's nothing for you behind you. All that exists is what's ahead."
Then: suicide.
How much more depressing does it get?
he was banned he couldn't run in the competitions he couldn't overcome it
I used to give this kind of pep talk to people
Now I don't give pep talks at all, or listen to pep talks
It was the final running ahead. . .
It'll be all the more difficult when Bojack actually does kill himself. The only question is whether no one be there to stop him, or will there "Be plenty of people around when he kills himself."
Maybe ahead for some people means the end.
Just sayin'.
That suicide scene hits WAAY different after you get through the poem scene. If you know, you know
Infinity Mixtapes broke my heart
fun fact the red horse is voiced by
John Krasinski (jim from the office)
therose1009 no shit.
@@Donteventryitleavemealone sucks he couldn't reprise the voice role in the poem episode, but Will Arnett knocked it out of the park so it's all good.
@@kaydenalexander4174 well the red horse was also bojacks dad (at the time)so thats why arnett voiced him
This explains so much about how screwed up BoJack is. Secretariat was the closest thing he had to a positive role model, and right after telling him the importance of battling through depression he let it overcome him. This probably scrambled what little moral compass young BoJack had.
lakobause bojack's Mom inturrupts him and he never gets to hear this advice
Gamesandgiants
Bojack literally played Secretariat in a movie. I am sure he saw the footage at some point.
The Spiel wasn't about battling depression. It was about running from your problems. Secretariat is a lot like Bojack, and their go to move is to run as fast as they can from their problems. But things finally caught up with him. In the end, Secretariat couldn't outrun his problems forever. Or maybe his suicide is his final act of running away.
lakobause I know how bojack feels to me my positive role model was hunter s Thompson a famous journalist who inspired me to become a journalist like him I have almost all of his books and movies about and watched almost all of his interviews
RazorBeak lvgbiy
I just realized that kid BoJack asking Secretariat if he gets his joke is exactly like BoJack as an adult asking his audience if they got his jokes when he was bombing his stand up and Herb advised him not to do that anymore.
Bojack is obsessed with people’s approval
He never got approval from his parents so he is desperate for other people's approval.
A really bad insecurity of needing people's approval that he would ingrain into Sarah Lynn later
@@daquansbussy4288 "You don't stop running."
"Don't stop dancing, and you give the people what they want."
"What do you do when you get sad?"
Holy shit my heart gave out
I'm a grown ass man and my mind was blown the first time my fiancee told me "It's okay to be sad." I had just lost a good job I thought I had in the bag and she gave me a hug and let me cry it out for as long as I needed. Anyone else previous in my life would've just told me to suck it up and move on. She made me feel comfortable with that middle step of getting it all out and THEN moving on with my life.
And them she betrayed you to the milk man and when she abandoned you she also said. "Its okay to be sad" right ?
+João Pedro Nasser shut up
@@nasser314 speaking from experience?
@@nasser314 No, not everyone's life sucks as much as yours.
The saddest thing about this scene is that Secretariat expresses this philosophy with such steadfast conviction. But when the time came where he faced his greatest moment of people holding him back, dragging him through the dirt of his past...he couldn't follow his own advice.
Awareness of one's own problems, and ability to actually fix them.... are unfortunately two different things.
all heros fall right?
@@reedrichards8677 either you die and be called a hero... or you live long enough to be called the villain.
Oh no, he did.
He ran from the disappointment of society by offing himself.
He followed his advice.
To the very unhappy, horrid end.
@@davido.469 "I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess" - Thanos
I know a lot of people talk about the show being extrapolated from the "Why the long face" or "A horse walks into a bar" jokes, but I've never seen anyone mention "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink". There's a lot of... negative imagery between horses and water in this show.
Water was a metaphor for the drowning Bojack experienced from all the trauma and depression he had
If you think about ti, aside from being sleep drinking water is the only moment horses are really "exposed" to their environment, weak against other predators
I think horses just suck in water
@@Heidegaff this is wise
Beating a dead horse
And then season two comes along and it turns out Bojack heard none of it. Damn.
Jacob Hewett Just kicks us real hard in the feels. ;_;
+Jacob Hewett I guess you didn't get the ending?
+Jacob Hewett I think he did, thats why he is pushing himself to restart his career. The who show is about a deeply flawed man who is finally getting up to push forawrd
+lemonvariable72 Well some people think its a long explanation of why a "the horse has a long face"=
+Denzel Nanor GET IT?!
Because Bojack is a horse, and Secretariat is a horse.
And they both have "horse face". Because they are sad.
And they are horses.
GET IT?!
This takes on a whole new meaning after the third season finale.
FOR REAL
Thank you! It really does.
+Camryn Stein why i do not get it?
+Eddy Navarro I'm not entirely sure what to tell you...watch this clip and then watch the final scene of the season 3 finale. Running in the season 3 moment is different - instead of away from something (e.g. the escape from LA, the bender with Sarah Lynn), Bojack witnesses running in its purest form, and that's with purpose beyond selfishness and closer to something akin to destiny.
I'm projecting here, and so is Bojack, and ultimately, I'm still trying to figure it out. But the OP is right - a whole new meaning after the third season finale. It's not yet defined for me, but it's still striking.
I really need to watch this show all over. Its been months since I lost
watched any bojack and I binged this viewing of s3. I didnt piece this
scene an the end of s3 together till after i watched this clip. I cant
wait for s4. It is crazy how a cartoon can make you rethink life.
Secretariat is one of my fav irl horses of all time, even tho im not
into horse racing. An to see that scene when i did. I kinda teared up.
It was depressing to know how he passed irl, but to see that scene was a
bit devastating.
That's one reason I love this show: you will roll your eyes at BJ's goofyness one minute, laugh so hard you get out of breath the next, and the next they kick you square in the balls.
There is depth here. There is real shit. One of the best written characters on TV. Ever.
Eric Rowland completely agree. not afraid to call this brilliant.
Eric Rowland missed a chance for "right in the urethra"
Eric Rowland Only it's not on tv. Still very well written though.
Eric Rowland "It's about real shit," is EXACTLY how I've described the show to friends. Wrapped in the package of stoner animated comedy, Bojack just nails truth after truth.
Eric Rowland The best line ever written for Bojack so far is this one.
Bojack: My point is, I don't understand how people live. It's amazing to me that people wake up every morning and say "Yeah, another day lets do it" how do people do it? I don't know how.
It doesn't surprise me that it didn't work out for Secretariat.
I had a really miserable experience after college (graduated during a recession, had a horrible break-up, depression, moving back in with parents, the whole nine yards) and pushed myself through it by pouring myself into work. No friends, no romance, just moving forward. Pushing all my negative feelings away. I was going to make it or break.
Then I finally got my first steady paycheck and my own apartment. Five long years but I did it. Everything I wanted. And I spent my first weekend just crying.
All I did was push those feelings of failure, rejection, and misery aside. I didn't acknowledge any of it. I told myself I was fine. I wasn't fine.
It's good to know you can keep running. But you have to stop and catch your breath every now and again.
Kudos for making it this far
I had a very similar experience, graduating a few years ago in the recession, having to move back in with my parents who live in the middle of nowhere, getting a terrible, abusive job at a big box store (you can't treat the people who work at these places kindly enough, btw), barely making enough money to pay my student loans let alone get an apartment or have a life.
Then finally, after a while of that and applying like hell virtually everywhere, I finally landed a good, decent-paying job in my field - on the other side of the country. I "made it", but it was by far the worst anxiety and depression I ever had. I lived close to the ocean, and constantly thought about how I'd bring my towel and book to the beach so people would think it was an accident when I drown myself.
Tony Hale (Buster Bluth) has a good interview on 'speakeasy' with Paul F Tompkins (Mr. Peanutbutter) where he talks about this post-success depression. I think part of it is indeed sort of staving off how miserable you really are, but part is also as Tony describes - placing all your hopes into this one event in your life, and then when it finally comes and you still feel the same, it's all the more crushing.
it's like being in the ocean, you keep swimming and swimming, but you know you will drown, it's just a matter of time... that is depression
JamesOhGoodie wow this was an amazing comment. its good to know that everybody has been through the same things as u
For what its worth, as someone who's been there, I'm glad you're still here. Us sad sacks gotta stick together after all.
I'm always so surprised at how many people don't know that Secretariat was a real horse. Of course, he didn't appear on talk shows giving younger horses life pro tips and he wasn't banned for life for cheating and he didn't commit suicide, but he was an amazing racer who broke records and he was also a beautiful shade of red.
ERICA! How are you looking so beautiful I'm furious
Like WTF!? The GOAT and my personal inspiration
I wonder two things about this scene, both which really get to me.
1. Was his radio on when his car was parked? Which could mean he heard what the radio commentators were saying about him.
2. No one stopped him from jumping. Regardless of whether he was Secretariat or not, someone on the bridge was about to commit suicide.
There are cars honking and traffic is backed up, so they know something is up. What really gets to me is the fact that he takes a breath and it's like he realizes that what the radio is saying is true and the fact that no one came out to stop him from jumping.
Rolando Martinez this is 3 years late but let me just say this. Sometimes people don’t think you are gonna kill yourself when you’re standing off of a bridge looking down. Other times people don’t care or think someone else will try to help you. This is known as the bystander effect; the more bystanders there are, the less likely people will help you because of the diffusion of responsibility.
I mean I’m a cynical person. I think people just don’t care really if they were to see someone take their own life. They’d rather videotape it for views and clicks
It looks to be very early in the morning when he does this. There don’t appear to be any cars on the bridge
@@jeniferjoseph9200 you can literally hear cars honking and the commentators say some idiot parked his car on the bridge...
1 yes
2 they dont know that was him
Yeah nobody recognizes him which is why “some idiot” is used.
This is similar to "Dont stop dancing." Which makes me think that Bojack internalized this advise and evolved it into what he eventually told Sarah Lynn.
Don't stop running, all that matters is what's ahead
Which was Secretariat's suicide
Don't stop dancing until the curtains fall
The curtains also represent death
The curtains were always meant to allude to death as well because when Gina sings the song the last verse is
"Nothing's certain but the curtain"
Before abruptly ending.
I like how running is a continuous,yet settle, theme throughout the seasons.
TheCatsMeow settle theme? You mean "subtle" right?
yeah! and when secretariat said "don't stop running" it also connects to the song "don't stop dancing." i noticed that throughout the show a common theme is, like don't stop until you drop (or until the curtain calls) i think someone else could explain this better lol...
@@alexverdana2435 yeah, this whole theme of never stopping also comes up with Beatrice and her parents with the time's arrow sentiment, "Time's arrow neither stands still nor reverses. It merely marches forward."
@@psychomanatee3459 ohh, good one. This theme is so tragic isn't it
Chad Shinji "I mustn't run away"
The weak breeze whispers nothing
The water screams sublime
His feet shift, teeter-totter
Deep breath, stand back, it’s time
Toes untouch the overpass
Soon he’s water bound
Eyes locked shut but peek to see
The view from halfway down
A little wind, a summer sun
A river rich and regal
A flood of fond endorphins
Brings a calm that knows no equal
You’re flying now
You see things much more clear than from the ground
It’s all okay, it would be
Were you not now halfway down
Thrash to break from gravity
What now could slow the drop
All I’d give for toes to touch
The safety back at top
But this is it, the deed is done
Silence drowns the sound
Before I leaped I should’ve seen
The view from halfway down
I really should’ve thought about
The view from halfway down
I wish I could’ve known about
The view from halfway down
Yea that poem hit me hard when i heard it yesterday
Truly the best work in Bojack. Hit very deeply. Fuck.
That was my breaking point in that episode, and right before Beatrice's dance. What an intense season
one of the saddest things of Episode 15..
I Had to rewind that poem like 5 times because how good it was iam going miss this show
BoJack's spent his whole life both running from the past and clinging to it.
a lot of people in the comments of this video are talking about how Bojack didn't hear what Secretariat was saying, but that's actually not the truth, although it may seem that way. It was revealed by the creators of the show that in the scene at the beginning of season 2 where Bojack is watching this interview air and his parents start fighting, him moving closer to the TV and turning the volume up was meant to show that Bojack drowned out the sound of his parents and was intently focused on what secretariat was saying, internalizing Secretariat's advice. Bojack goes on in life to continually use this advice and run from his problems, trying to forget his past. I remember seeing Raphael Bob-Waksberg confirm this somewhere but am having trouble finding it now, will update if i do.
i think that's actually true
It’s true according to some dvd behind the scenes thing
Is that the voice of Jim from *The Office*?
Adrian Lackey Yup!
+Isaiah Tuparan john kranski was jim tho
Dre Parris He means those two actors are connected.
"Aren't you The Horse from Horsin' Around?"
MICHAEL!
After episode 15 of the final season, this hits even harder. The view from halfway down.
Secretariat probably felt this before dying but being in Bojack's dream, this poem is all about Bojack
(And it's actually one of the things many people surviving suicide attempt said. They regretted it)
"I change my mind, but it's too late
The silence drowns the sound
Before I leaped
I should've seen
The view from halfway down"
This show is full of depressing things
SPOILER ALERT
I just finished seasons 1 and 2
2 was just...damn Bojack can't get a break he lost both of his friends and then....damn i thought he was gonna commit suicide too but i guess that was his break gettinh his mooch of a friend back...
SPOILER ALERT
That's why I love this show . It's easy to assume from the trailers that it'll be another dumb show . Then you watch it and discover that this is a show with substance and real meaning .Hope season 3 will not disappoint ! 😁
+Jon Gallardo It doesnt.And it gets more depressing.
Shit. I guess I’m a Zoe after all
"I wish I could've known about
the view from halfway down."
So that's a precursor to the "don't stop dancing" message.
The philosophy of never truly confronting your demons and problems and just running away from them. Only for them to get you anyway at the end.
I guess there are two ways to look at it: running away from your problems and learning to let go of your problems.
Well the demons will catch you if you don't accept their existence. But, it does not mean, you let them to hold you back. Moving forward with acceptance.
I do agree it's amazing and a good way to get over depression, but the last scene, a month after that interview,
"You can be the fastest runner in the world, but you can't outrun the truth"
And season 2, Bojacks mum calls him and tells him, "You're Bojack Horseman... there's no cure for that"
I love this show and its complexities and relativities
"You keep on running!"
Then his ability to "run" is taken away.
BoJack, when you get sad, you run straight ahead
and you keep running forward, no matter what.
There are people in your life who are gonna try to hold you back, slow you down, but you don't let them.
Don't you stop running and don't you ever look behind you.
There's nothing for you behind you.
All that exists is what's ahead.
What’s even worse is that the advice Secretariat gave Bojack sounds poetic and inspiring and all, but its basically telling Bojack to run from his past problems and not properly deal with them.
To me, it kinda sounded like Secretariat was trying to talk to himself as much as he was talking to BoJack. Look at his eyebrows.
@@catherinecao4810 The advice people give is almost always a subconscious attempt to validate that person’s own actions to themselves through the other.
UGH even though he's only on screen for a few minutes, you can sense the deep pain behind Secretariat's seemingly motivational speech. John Kransinski was a good casting choice for this part.
guys I don't think Secretariat meant run as in running away from your problems, I think he meant run as in pushing forward, don't let the past hold you back and learn to move on to greater things. I think he meant to grow from those problems. But that's just one interpretation.
I agree with u
+LaGravy That's what I saw it as as well.
I think that by running he was literally trying to run away from his problems. When he couldnt run anymore and like, had to face his problems (since he used running to forget about them), he resorted to the final solution to sadness, suicide. But thats my interpretation
I think Secratariat is just like Bojack, and once he no longer had racing to keep him from focusing on his demons, he lost the will to live.
When someone says something, an idea, an advice, it can have a lot of interpretations, not all of them, but like in this case, running foward can mean a lot of things.
It is ridiculous how much this makes even more sense after the series ending. This was season 1: what a great show, what a stunning writing consistence
Talks about running and striving and struggling towards Success in one scene, able to step out of his own demons. Then in the next scene, commits suicide, because he can't outrun any of the pain, not anymore. Everything he thought was an accomplishment was nothing but empty accolades, and the horrifying truth was, he has no one beside him in the end.
Lots of parallels to Bojack there, in Season 3 especially.
The problem with Secretariat's advice is what happens when you accidentally look back. And for Secretariat he killed himself. Bojack runs into this problem a lot. He keeps moving forward and spirals downward when he looks back.
Everyone talking about Secretariat's bad advice here like they completely missed Bojack's WORLD CLASS punnery
Get it? The right track? Because Bojack is a horse and Secretariat is a horse? And horses run on tracks? Do you get the joke about the track?
it was actually kind of subtle and funny before he explained it
@Eric Lee pls no
"The View From Halfway Down" speech Secretariat made makes this scene even sadder that the last thing he thought during the fall was how much he regretted jumping and not realising there was another way before it was too late.
I mean, that episode where Secretariat makes the speech was all in Bojack’s head. We have no idea what the real Secretariat’s thoughts were when jumping, although we do know that Bojack may have suspected that those were Secretariat’s thoughts. And that the episode is basically Bojack’s own view from halfway down- when he’s just attempted suicide, but realized, in what could be his last moments, that he doesn’t want to die.
The context on top of the line "some idiot parked his car on the bridge" is chillingly callous. I can't stop thinking about this scene.
Has anyone noticed that when the scene starts, Secretariat has no wrinkles and by the end, he has some bags under his eyes, as if hearing BoJack's letter made him feel older?
"And I remember one time, a fan asked me, "Hey, um, you know that episode where the horse has to give Ethan a pep talk, after Ethan finds out his crush only asked him to the dance because her friends were having a dorkiest date contest? In all the shots of the horse, you can see a paper coffee cup on the kitchen counter, but in the shots of Ethan, the coffee cup's missing.
Was that because the show was making a statement, about the fluctuant subjectivity of memory and how even two people can experience the same moment in entirely different ways?" And I didn't have the heart to be, like, "No, man, some crew guy just left their coffee cup in the shot." So instead, I was like, "Yeah.""
No it's not? He didn't say anything bad about autism or autistic people, simply stated the fact that they are more sensitive towards details. Noticing details can be an asset sometimes
He's not shaved eitheir. Probably he didn't get sleep for days.
@@thenewlifeofme come on shut up
@Ramela Tomatoes no, he didn’t use it as an insult and explained what he meant. I’m autistic and I didn’t find it offensive
Watching this scene, and then seeing the wide shot at the end before he hits the water hits differently now after hearing his poem in season 6. I wonder if he opened his eyes to see the water now that hes halfway down.
"Don't stop running."
"Don't stop dancing."
Man i really wish that i could make a whole movie on just this quote.
Forest Gump?
0:47 - aaaand right there is quite possibly the very first compliment Bojack was ever given. And it was a joke on a tv show.
After watching ‘The View From Halfway Down’... This leaves me so hollow.
"And traffic is jammed to day in Lewiville, Looks like some idiot parked his car on the bridge."
Jesus.
Christ.
Just.
As.
He.
Killed.
Him.
Self.
I never said that, your looking more into the comment than i intended.
I was just kidding :p
Okay :bq:
Louisville*
FUCKING THREE YEARS AGO AND YOUR CORRECTING MY SPELLING XD
I like how Bojack would continue the “did you get my joke” bit when he tries stand up
If Bojack Horseman would be a movie, this should be the intro scene.
The view from halfway down, makes this scene even more sad to me.
Only recently found out this voice actor is the same guy that did Jim in the office, honestly I didn't think much of him after that show but this is some amazing voice work
Is secretariat... Jim Halpert???
Joe Train Thanks Joe Train
ren berisha YES! my favorite character voices another great character
he did a great job
Mr Rogers was for this reason such a valuable show. He never said to just pretend to smile. He never said that you HAD to cry either. He just said feelings are normal, if you are sad it's ok to be sad, if you are angry it's ok to be angry, if you're numb and confused and want to be alone for a while then it's ok to be numb and confused and want to be alone for a while. ...But what we should try to do is express how we feel, talk about it or find some other safe way to get the feeling out. You didn't hafta feel ashamed or weird for having any feeling or being different. And you didn't always get an explanation why sometimes the world is a nasty unfair place. But you could always talk about it at home, or go someplace safer to find a more trustworthy outlet if you needed to. I wish more modern shows both for kids and adults would approach this.
I know that it doesn’t add to the meaning of the scene but I just noticed this and I think it’s hilarious when the radio guy says “it’s the 70’s! you can’t cheat in sports and get away with it!” During the steroid era
Bojack asking if people get the joke hits so hard, it makes you think of 5yo him telling his parents a joke and them just silently staring at him.
The view from halfway down. He experienced terror and regret in those last few seconds. Sad.
fuck, bojack never got to hear any of this :(
SG He did
When I first watched this I thought that Bojack would film this scene and hear Secretariat's speech for the first time and break down.
Ben CC-1993 That would have been a interesting way to create that
As someone who sees this bridge every single day, watching Secretariat jump off it felt kind of surreal
2:15 The View from Halfway Down...
I feel like if young Bojack heard what Secretariat said (instead of being interrupted by his parents arguing) he would’ve had a more hopeful and less miserable childhood
No, because running from your problems is not the solution. Just as Secretariat later demonstrated himself
I don't think he meant run as in away. From your problems. I think he meant run as in go forward, don't look back. Like meet the Robinsons. 'keep moving forward' .
@@s.i.m.poster6823 I really doubt it, considering he killed himself when he was unable to run away from the consequences of his mistakes. He didn't push foward.
Bojack also ran away from all his problems for the longest time. He didn't want to face what he did.
"There is nothing behind you" is like the past doesn't matter but it does. Your mistakes run after you and you gotta deal with the bad you did. Running away instead of solving is bad. I made many mistakes like that.
Also, the creators confirmed that Bojack did hear the advice and that the scene of him scooting closer to the TV and turning up the volume to drown out the sound of the argument was meant to signify that he focused on and internalized that advice hard. To his own detriment, because running away from all his problems and never addressing anything from the past led to worse problems throughout his life, and likely Secretariat’s. The fact that Secretariat gave Bojack this advice and later committed suicide is meant to show that said advice was fundamentally flawed, and didn’t work out for Secretariat, either.
he did hear it thats why he always ran from his issues instead of faceing them until season 6 ig
When I get sad I watch this video.
"...And traffic is jammed today coming into Loysville, looks like some idiot parked his car on the bridge."
“some idiot parked his car on the bridge” gets me every time
This is the best scene to show someone new to the show. It spoils nothing important in the show. It reveals no main character. But it informs about the humour, and soul crushing themes of depression and udder despair of like.
Do you get it? Did you get my joke? Please tell me you got it? Di...
That "car on the bridge" joke always hits me right in the gut
The punchline to this is that Bojack never heard this advice when he saw this and ended up being spiteful towards the people in his life because his parents yelled over it. A great setup to another heartbreaking character development. Fantastic stuff and I really love the last line that really has such a profound ring to it "You can be the fastest runner in the world, but you can't outrun...the truth." and no one gave a damn when Secretariat took his life. Life at its most cruel.
nah the creator confirmed he heard the advice
no he heard it thats why he always ran from his problems and never dealt with them until season 6 ig
It's not about running from your past, it's about running to your future.
There's no "undo" button in life. What's done, is done. There's no way to change that. No resets, no second chances.
Looking back in life, you see a series of failures. Some of them might not be your fault. You can do all the "right things", and still fail. This is the sad truth about life. And sometimes, you screwed up things all on your own. Knowing what you do now, of course, you'd do it differently. But it doesn't matter, because it doesn't change anything.
All you have is tomorrow. Tomorrow, I'll be a little bit stronger. Tomorrow, I'll be a little bit smarter. Tomorrow, I'll be better than I was today...
I'm sad John Krasinski wasn't able to reprise his role as Secretariat, because I'd of loved to hear his take on The View from Halfway Down.
"some idiot parked his car on the bridge"...
"I am a good kid, and I like to play, and I like to go to school. But sometimes I get sad. What do you do when you get sad? How do you not be sad? Sincerely, BoJack."
First time watcher of the series, just finished S1 last night; I had to come back to this scene, because...I dunno. It struck a chord? Like it really hit me deep, because I could relate to being sad sometimes like BoJack and having a not so good home life, but still be able to go to school and like it, as 9yo BoJack said he did. I believed I was a good kid, despite emotional and verbal physical abuse from my parents, I liked to play, and I could count myself as happy, but sometimes I would get really, really sad. It meant so much to me that BoJack could have someone like Secretariat -- who he looked up to so much -- say all these things, and honestly say he didn't have a happy childhood either, but went onto win the triple crown.
'Cause I never really had anyone like that. And even as a young adult, and I have things to be happy about, sometimes I still don't feel happy, and I get sad, so so much. Though -- judging from the way BoJack turned out as an adult (and foolishly reading the comments section 💀) Secretariat's words never got to him, did they?
Never
I bet they did. But if your idol tells you to keep running. To battle through depression and saadness and then that very same person jumps off a bridge just a month later... Well. What is the lesson a 9yo gets from that?
When the person you admired the most falls to the same demons that haunt you what hope is left for youself?
0:13- Secretariat looks at the camera
''If I could have only seen... The view from half way down''
Truly an amazing show.
john krasinski has such a beautiful voice 💕🥰
I've watched this show more times than I can count, and have had this specific video liked for multiple years at this point. But it always hurts to watch. Each beat is an additional punch to the gut. That bell sound is so haunting.
"When you get sad, you run, straight ahead - and you keep running foward, no matter what. There are people in your life who are gonna try and hold you back, slow you down, but you don't let them. Don't you stop running and don't you ever look behind you, there's nothing for you behind you, all that exists is what's ahead.
All of the horses in this show have fantastic voices. Will Arnett, John Krasinski, Wendie Malick etc
This is the same energy as telling Sarah-Lynn don't stop dancing
"you can be the fastest runner in the world, but you can't outrun the truth"
underrated quote
2:13 that's about the halfway down point
The most depressing thing about this is that Bojack never even got to hear his idol’s advice cause his parents were fighting too loud he couldn’t hear the TV.
this has got to be my favorite joke of the entire show. It's so sad yet I burst out laughing because the writters are so god damn brilliant at dark comedy.
Secretariat killing himself while the 2 guys on the radio comment about some idiot jamming the traffic on the bridge is hilarious.
I know right? Those little "blink and you'll miss 'em" detail jokes are brilliant!
I recently picked up this show and as someone whose been struggling with depression for over 10 years this show really hits home in some parts
2:15 The view from halfway down...
What I really like about this scene is that, regardless of how good Secretariat’s advice actually was, he was genuine in delivering it. He could’ve easily kept his happy face on and told Bojack “just be happy,” but instead he takes his letter seriously and tries to give him what he thinks is the best advice he can.
JOHN KRASINSKI 😭
This show gives hope and right after that moment it fucks you up. It has happened so many times I lost count.
anyone else realize that Secretariat’s advice to Bojack is almost identically Bojack’s advice to Sarah Lynn when they were on Horsin Around
I just realized Bojack Horseman's videos on youtube have some of the comment sections where people talk overtly about depression.
It's nice to see this serie creating a discussion.
Holy shit I just noticed the parallels between Secretariat’s advice and the advice Bojack gives to Sara Lynn. Shows that he really took it to heart.
One of the greatest season openers of all time tbh, set the theme for the season and presented a life lesson about the dangers of denial and repression without being too to preachy
I just realized how Bojack twisted these words for himself. Instead of "dont stop running", we got "dont stop dancing".
And Sarah Lynn took that to her grave
i don't know why bojack is so underrated. really. i can't describe how relatable this serie is to me. must watch if you are or were struggling with your emotions.
Oof, this kills me.
I really love that all those years have passed and BoJack still did what Secretariat told him, each time things got hard and he felt sad he run either to New Mexico or on drunk adventures with Sarah Lynn.
this makes the running scene at the end even better