A few games ago Arty asks if “we’re getting sick of Flash”. Well… Considering the fact these videos are getting wayyyyy more views than most of his other videos… I think it’s safe to say these videos are here to stay! And I say good sir woot. Thanks!
I can imagine during Flash's entire military service he was labbing out new builds in his head. The dude is a genius and its pretty cool to see what ideas he came up with when he wasn't able to play regularly
I'm thinking about that armor upg, and normally I'd advocate +1 armor, but in the case of mass gols, +1 veh weps adds an important break point that allows groups of 6 gols to FF mutas in stack with 2 volleys, rather than needing 13 hits. This breakpoint also persists after mutas gain +1 carapace. No matter the armor, muta stacks need 2 volleys to kill gols, and sunks kill with 4 attacks. I think for apm available players, will appreciate the stutter stepping stop micro or cycling the manual targeting between 2 control groups, and is a clear starting point before optimizing for critical mass numbers. 2 right clicks then cancel with stop, repeat. Similar to stutterstepping observers or carriers (not anti interceptor micro)
You just picked 6 goliaths as a group randomly. In this case, there is a much larger mass of them, it won't be just 6. And also, it's not like all of them fire at once at the same target, things are very chaotic. All in all, it's 13 hits instead of 12, that's all.
@@Shield_Battery But don't you see how the engagement looks in practice? The mutalisks get damaged over time and slowly worn down, and the goliaths rarely fire at the same target. The usefulness of that breakpoint is dubious at best. But since the glaive has 3 attacks, that's like 3hp saved per attack, for each armor upgrade.
Love to see this! Flash experimenting on the fly, on the ladder, figuring this matchup out! Can we just go ahead right now and call Flash the Mad Scientist Terran? His ability to just try out a random build and execute it so well is astonishing!
I really enjoy the kind of "breaking down" of how the game works that you do in your casts, like around 6 minutes into this video. It really adds to the appreciation of the game for someone who only watches and doesn't play. Thanks for casting!
Jaedong was basically dead at that point, even if the Queen Minerals+Gas was more Hydras. Flash was able to get a free rally right to his 3rd without having to do the whole Siege/Unsiege tactic that would buy Jaedong more time to get Brooding Queens off the ground. Very interesting game from Flash.
Wow that seconds game was beautiful. Seems like JD would have benefitted greatly from some speedlings and 1 less muta. Couple of times in this flash series he has had tunnel vision and missed something key to help him out (not making mutas in that other mech game being a HUGE misplay that seemed out of flavour for JD)
The mario spam dies down, the embers cool down twitch stream ends, artosis puts down the nes power glove he normally plays on and brings out the mouse and keyboard and assumes his flash account
i think turning point was when he flew his muta into flash base and got surrounded. did zero damage and mutas got destroyed. he could have easily contained flash at this point and gone into defiler. it was a good surround from flash though you can see he set that up. he knows he only has one chance to catch JD being sloppy and it worked perfectly.
Lads, I was watching closely. I figured out the early game ogre Zerg counter. Goliaths just like flash right, but add in Firebats to protect them from zerglings with on the ground. I bet that would be absolutely powerful in this type of situation!
It says volumes about balance that Zerg only has one viable option with which it more or less close while Terran can do a barrel rolls with strategies and still win
@@deltaphi9770 But of course you'd use unrelated localized argument in the response to general statement. That's a fallacy and you know it and my argument still stands - Vessels counter everything Zerg has so Zerg is always on timer. But I'll humor you and address your false argument anyway: Try playing Zerg seriously then say that again when you're got your win rate at 51%+ with "honest" tactics without "rushing" and "cutting" things against Terran.
@@Vognee uNrElAtEd lOcAlIzEd ArGuMeNt 🤓👆 Are you hearing yourself lool. I don't even play anymore, and only watch Artosis, but you're pressed hard about a 25 year old game 😂
First time watching flash here lately with your casts... What it seems with him is the unpredictability witb what he throws at jaedong Sometimes it doesnt work but then woth this goliath mass the hydras and queens were too late. But flash basically is trying to dictate the game where his opponent is forced to play catch-up.
I am humbled that The God of Starcraft optimized and used the Goliath Spam build against Zerg I used back when I was kid. I feel so blessed and the nostalgia hits me hard 😂
Goliaths are the Marines of mech. Finally, twenty-something years later, Flash does the strat I used to use (except wins). Does this mean I'm as smart (and as handsome), as Flash?
Flash would have made more goliaths
fr fr
arty casting flash is just chef kiss
The moment(s) we've waited for tbh
true
Giving me chills
Arty, “casting flash is just chef kiss”
I am taking notes: Make tons of goliaths.
Finally, my daily dose of Flash.
RT loves Flash more than his family
😂
What's your point? 😉
It's simple, his kids can stop sleeping on the floor as soon as they can succesfully defend a 4 pool on Troy.
i believe this without the smallest shred of doubt, no joke
12:17 Did anyone else see that goliath go through the hatchery
larva morphing into an egg force-moved the goliath I would guess
Using the opponent's eggs to jump through structures... Flash truly is on another level.
🤣🤣
FLASH! ah-ahh Saviour of the universe!
FLASH! ah-ahh king of the impossible
Thanks for the casts Arty! love drinking my coffee to some broodwar!
Flash
Ah-ah
He'll save every one of us!
Flash! Ah-ah
He's a miracle
A few games ago Arty asks if “we’re getting sick of Flash”.
Well… Considering the fact these videos are getting wayyyyy more views than most of his other videos… I think it’s safe to say these videos are here to stay!
And I say good sir woot.
Thanks!
Flash makes Goliaths like they were Marines.
I can imagine during Flash's entire military service he was labbing out new builds in his head. The dude is a genius and its pretty cool to see what ideas he came up with when he wasn't able to play regularly
tactic from military service: MOAR GOLIATH DAKKA
That's Flash macro right there.
Always refreshing to see mech against zerg.
Great cast dude. Absolutely crazy strat
I agree if possible please cast more games a day. I love the way you talk about what is happening . Other streamers just say the stupidest shit.
I'm thinking about that armor upg, and normally I'd advocate +1 armor, but in the case of mass gols, +1 veh weps adds an important break point that allows groups of 6 gols to FF mutas in stack with 2 volleys, rather than needing 13 hits. This breakpoint also persists after mutas gain +1 carapace. No matter the armor, muta stacks need 2 volleys to kill gols, and sunks kill with 4 attacks.
I think for apm available players, will appreciate the stutter stepping stop micro or cycling the manual targeting between 2 control groups, and is a clear starting point before optimizing for critical mass numbers. 2 right clicks then cancel with stop, repeat. Similar to stutterstepping observers or carriers (not anti interceptor micro)
You just picked 6 goliaths as a group randomly. In this case, there is a much larger mass of them, it won't be just 6. And also, it's not like all of them fire at once at the same target, things are very chaotic. All in all, it's 13 hits instead of 12, that's all.
Nice analysis, thanks!
@@Leonhart_93 it's not random... it'beacuse the new breakpoint for +1 gols is 11... from 13...
@@Shield_Battery But don't you see how the engagement looks in practice? The mutalisks get damaged over time and slowly worn down, and the goliaths rarely fire at the same target.
The usefulness of that breakpoint is dubious at best.
But since the glaive has 3 attacks, that's like 3hp saved per attack, for each armor upgrade.
How dare YT auto play Flash at 360p...!
When are we getting a dedicated Flash channel? Document every game, strat and stream already. GGs.
I love how Flash actually repairs his frontline with SCVs.
I am a total noob , but I usually send 2 or 3 scv when I attack for this reason. And building turrets
I'm a simple man, I see Flash...
Simple man, simple memes, upvotes because copypasta.
* unzips *
Hell yeah! Loved seeing the mass Goliaths. Thanks Artosis. I may not comment every video but I do watch them every day.
Man, this puts such a big smile on my face :) more of these pls!! I wanna see the comeback in full
Love to see this! Flash experimenting on the fly, on the ladder, figuring this matchup out! Can we just go ahead right now and call Flash the Mad Scientist Terran? His ability to just try out a random build and execute it so well is astonishing!
Gonna have this with my eggs and hash browns! Thanks for casting Arty!
I really enjoy the kind of "breaking down" of how the game works that you do in your casts, like around 6 minutes into this video. It really adds to the appreciation of the game for someone who only watches and doesn't play. Thanks for casting!
Jaedong's big mistake was the queens. There was no time for those, and a few extra hydras or lings could've changed the final battle.
The siege would continue - tank is the best unit in the game. Jd would lose eventually just staying on hydras and mutas
Jaedong was basically dead at that point, even if the Queen Minerals+Gas was more Hydras. Flash was able to get a free rally right to his 3rd without having to do the whole Siege/Unsiege tactic that would buy Jaedong more time to get Brooding Queens off the ground.
Very interesting game from Flash.
I want to watch nothing but Flash for a while.
Wow that seconds game was beautiful.
Seems like JD would have benefitted greatly from some speedlings and 1 less muta. Couple of times in this flash series he has had tunnel vision and missed something key to help him out (not making mutas in that other mech game being a HUGE misplay that seemed out of flavour for JD)
Artosis is improving my quality of life with this constant content.
This felt like a old flash game. Poor J just couldn't get anything going.
Flash would have won
Flash was in the military, he was sitting in a tank and he was thinking how he can use siege tanks :-)
he like "bruh why not siege mode?" *becomes a general* "ok back to starcraft"
That was incredible, thanks for the video!
What a cool build. Godlike Macro allows things like this to work. amazing
Who would have thought.. mutalisk harassment from Zerg or guessing in PvsZ was so good.
That was one of the most exciting games I've seen in a long time. So cool
Flash lived on 2 bases throughout 😮
flash is finally learning from the best, artosis
@@pointlessmanatee Has anybody seen Flash and Artosis together in the same room at the same time? I think not.
The mario spam dies down, the embers cool down twitch stream ends, artosis puts down the nes power glove he normally plays on and brings out the mouse and keyboard and assumes his flash account
17:41 You Blink and Flash's supply is at 182.
It says 87/148 at that timestamp.
that was one of the best games i've watched in a while
10:37 That Goliath Conga Line
damn, now I really want to see how Flash would deal in a TvT match
Something like Flash vs Scan would be just perfect
The mobility of Mutas is nuts...
Damn i love watching and your commentary on these absolute legende ive been a fan since early 2000s
Flash macro is insane. Man does not miss a cycle of goliaths the entire time
GG? I never queue my goliaths
Clicking a factory and pressing ''v,g,t'' is the least impressive thing about the entire game. ;>
that second game was amazing.
So fresh, so wild, and still a great game.
So nice to see a TvZ that doesn’t end up SK Terran. Thanks for the cast!
What a game.
Goliath build is fun to watch. Love that unit. With a couple of tanks to help clear out static defense, this is really good. Nice cast RT.
Is "many many mutas" the Zerg equivalent of Hungry Hungry Hippos?
Always enjoy Artosis’s insightful analysis. It feels like a StarCraft Academy and I’m loving it!!
keep Flash coming. it is a drug to me
It’s crazy Flash is still at Jaedongs level or better already. He’s going to be #1 very soon again at this rate
Breakfast and Flash games, amazing as always
Jeez Flash is on another level from the rest of the pros
What the hell are you doing? Massing just one type of unit is noob play!
Flash:
Please more games per day, I can only watch your stream for so long because of the braincell destroying tts that never stops
Dude i got the same problem. His stream is unwatchable
Y’all just need more practice
i realise its big money for arty but maybe if he could play the first few games with tts off or at least limited. would be soo good
LOL!!
LOL so true
OMG~! That was wild~!
the meta analysis on point 👏
Flash making more and more goliaths be like: "tu-tu-tu-tu-tu-tu"
Loving the sc1 content brother cheers
It's interesting to put matrix on some goliaths and tank them
i think turning point was when he flew his muta into flash base and got surrounded. did zero damage and mutas got destroyed. he could have easily contained flash at this point and gone into defiler. it was a good surround from flash though you can see he set that up. he knows he only has one chance to catch JD being sloppy and it worked perfectly.
one of if not the most ineresting TvZ ive seen since i started watching bw again
Lads, I was watching closely. I figured out the early game ogre Zerg counter. Goliaths just like flash right, but add in Firebats to protect them from zerglings with on the ground. I bet that would be absolutely powerful in this type of situation!
What an interesting game. So glad Flash is back!
Such a fresh take on the meta!
GOLIATH ONLINE
Sayan castet IT all in one , but Arty comment and how he analise is just awesome. Back to ladder after watching
Goliaths shoot up and down
That was dope
Goliath, tank against Zerg.
I love it!
Emperor Palpatine builds chicken walkers
goliath build reminds me of Flash owning JD in that one OSL/MSL (can't remember)
it wasn't pretty. and i wasn't happy
"We never see this" i literally ser this every time im on ladder
WONDERFUL
no orange cloud? GG
It says volumes about balance that Zerg only has one viable option with which it more or less close while Terran can do a barrel rolls with strategies and still win
@@Vogneecry more. Stupid rush cheese gimmick faction anyway.
@@Vognee and there were no vessels either. Cope that rushing mutas is being kept honest once in a while 🤦♂
@@deltaphi9770 But of course you'd use unrelated localized argument in the response to general statement. That's a fallacy and you know it and my argument still stands - Vessels counter everything Zerg has so Zerg is always on timer.
But I'll humor you and address your false argument anyway:
Try playing Zerg seriously then say that again when you're got your win rate at 51%+ with "honest" tactics without "rushing" and "cutting" things against Terran.
@@Vognee uNrElAtEd lOcAlIzEd ArGuMeNt 🤓👆 Are you hearing yourself lool. I don't even play anymore, and only watch Artosis, but you're pressed hard about a 25 year old game 😂
bustin (zergs) makes me feel good
that last fight really was on the margins
i wonder what might of happened if those resources were spent on something other than queens
Looove the last game. Very interesting
wow, awsome!!
Imagine how much stronger that goliath build would have been if he didn't lose 10 scv in the natural in 5 seconds
Frfr 💰 🤑 💪
I would like to see goliaths with some marine medics
Im a simple man. I see flash game. I like and click
That's an amazing game
*watching goliath build*
Finally, one of them has understood.
Damn, that was a cool game.
The map at 5:45 looks fun to play on :3
Apocalypse
Savior has returned!
The greatest Terran player of StarCraft broodwar
First time watching flash here lately with your casts... What it seems with him is the unpredictability witb what he throws at jaedong Sometimes it doesnt work but then woth this goliath mass the hydras and queens were too late. But flash basically is trying to dictate the game where his opponent is forced to play catch-up.
Goliaths are really cool in Cosmonarchy
Where's the Artosis sickass transition?
Hey Artosis do you know when Flash is coming back?
I am humbled that The God of Starcraft optimized and used the Goliath Spam build against Zerg I used back when I was kid. I feel so blessed and the nostalgia hits me hard 😂
Flaaash babyyy! ❤
Crazy game 5 btw! Really fun to see
Keep casting Flash games!!! Great analysis so far
Arty always sounded like he chugged 8 burritos before doing these videos 😅
Flash in the ASL is gonna be like the return of Kendrick. He's been gone juuuust long enough to where people forgot why he's the goat
The GOAT is back and im loving it.
Holy!!
Goliaths are the Marines of mech. Finally, twenty-something years later, Flash does the strat I used to use (except wins). Does this mean I'm as smart (and as handsome), as Flash?