Can You Beat StarCraft: Brood War Without Losing A Unit?

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  • @DaveyGunface
    @DaveyGunface 8 місяців тому +1327

    45:00 "I think in the chaos, Orange doesn't set his own base... as his base."
    Thanks Brood War AI, very cool!

    • @Josedot366
      @Josedot366 8 місяців тому +66

      Smartest broodwar ai:

    • @flazzorb
      @flazzorb 8 місяців тому +33

      @@Josedot366 The best AI of the 90s.

    • @NoESanity
      @NoESanity 8 місяців тому +43

      @@flazzorband still better than most of the 2023 ai chat bots.

    • @andrew_wow6892
      @andrew_wow6892 8 місяців тому +1

      My favourite war criminal ☺

    • @The_whales
      @The_whales 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Josedot366even doom ai is somehow smarter

  • @romas011
    @romas011 8 місяців тому +520

    The solutiom for True Colours is honestly briliant. Didnt think it was actually possible to completely gut a base in the sneak mission. Legendary.

    • @johnmoore8161
      @johnmoore8161 8 місяців тому +85

      Dont mind Grant just casually (in a 2 hour time period) rewriting a speedrun tactic.

    • @dillzilla4454
      @dillzilla4454 8 місяців тому +43

      @@johnmoore8161 i mean, when it comes to routes for missions like those, grant really is one of, if not the best at doing them. the midia blitz run is one that comes to mind

    • @BobMcBobJr
      @BobMcBobJr 8 місяців тому +25

      @@dillzilla4454 I still remember media blitz pacifist. That was hilarious.

    • @danieldiazrodriguez2636
      @danieldiazrodriguez2636 8 місяців тому +8

      I was just in awe hearing the explanation of what was happening, real overmind moment right there

  • @conradwerth6954
    @conradwerth6954 8 місяців тому +637

    Had to say outloud, as you got to Return to Char "Is he going to cannon rush the Overmind AGAIN?"

  • @Etropalker
    @Etropalker 8 місяців тому +278

    Cannonrushing the overmind, a scandalously good sneak attack route, completely breaking the AI, and completing all of starcraft. A Giant accomplishment, if you will. Now if only the SC1 vid was in the deathless playlist, that would be perfection.

  • @sethgirtman3503
    @sethgirtman3503 8 місяців тому +450

    Love seeing how the Zerg campaign takes over half the video. This is going to be good

    • @PeterZaitcev
      @PeterZaitcev 8 місяців тому +4

      Actually, it's longer than others )

    • @ExValeFor
      @ExValeFor 8 місяців тому +41

      @@PeterZaitcevThat's what 'over half' means, yes

    • @PeterZaitcev
      @PeterZaitcev 8 місяців тому +11

      @@ExValeFor I meant the campaign itself. It has more missions.

    • @insanecheapo195
      @insanecheapo195 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@PeterZaitcev 10 +1 missions dont warrant it taking as long as 16 missions

    • @PeterZaitcev
      @PeterZaitcev 8 місяців тому +2

      @@insanecheapo195 i know 🙃

  • @Dvalarogg
    @Dvalarogg 8 місяців тому +338

    "Hello everybody and welcome to pain."
    That's how you know this gon' be good.

  • @demilung
    @demilung 8 місяців тому +219

    That one marine with red hp passing by an army of zerg, just booking it to press ESC on the self-destruct.exe without slowing down because there's a zergling on his ass.
    I feel for Maurice the Marine

    • @kingoli9565
      @kingoli9565 8 місяців тому +28

      Maurice the Marine? Is this Maurice the Marauder before he joined Raynor's Raiders? I did not realise the hero Marauder of Pacifist had lore.

  • @calebadam2576
    @calebadam2576 8 місяців тому +1026

    "Age of mythology deathless doesnt seem that bad now"
    The mummy: We'll see.

    • @rytan4516
      @rytan4516 8 місяців тому +50

      At least heroes are immune to instant kill myth unit abilities

    • @MegaMaster1021
      @MegaMaster1021 8 місяців тому +28

      I wonder if the campaign specific heroes will be considered for the death count because they really aren't dead the more like knocked knocked out that can get back on their feet
      Then there's tug of war where you start off with dead units

    • @bluenicholasbf2142
      @bluenicholasbf2142 8 місяців тому +36

      @@MegaMaster1021 If I were to guess if GGG were to attempt it he would count them being knocked out as dying as he tends to take the more 'difficult' approach between such scenarios to challenge himself.

    • @UM96lol
      @UM96lol 8 місяців тому +33

      Mummy:
      Medusa:
      Perseus:
      Lampedes:
      Bolt:
      Argus:
      WE'LL SEE

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 8 місяців тому +22

      Gorgons: giggling
      Mummies: chortling
      Lightning Storm: chuckling
      Meteors: cackling
      Fimbulwinter: supervillain laughing

  • @CsubAzUrmedve
    @CsubAzUrmedve 8 місяців тому +409

    Wait, Patreon members didn't understand the Overmind cannon rush?! That crucial piece of Grant lore? Preposterous!

    • @Silvitewolf
      @Silvitewolf 8 місяців тому +103

      Right up there with super unique objectives with each one being guarded by progressively stronger wave of enemies.

    • @happygol-lucky5938
      @happygol-lucky5938 8 місяців тому +31

      Indeed, Aldaris?
      I would hope that the Judicator would put more faith in their Templar brethren

    • @theprussianviking
      @theprussianviking 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@happygol-lucky5938Tassadar, where have you been?

  • @lorddreemurr
    @lorddreemurr 8 місяців тому +317

    Ahh brood war. The campaign where the computer opponent just ACTIVATES and starts getting good

  • @fluffydestroyer8336
    @fluffydestroyer8336 8 місяців тому +214

    gotta love how every mission in brood war is actually super creative and unique, even the missions where you just have to eliminate the enemies have some fun twists to them (like the sneak attack in true colours or being surrounded on three fronts in omega)

    • @jaeusa160
      @jaeusa160 8 місяців тому +57

      And not just unique in the meme way of being 4 objectives, each with a progressively stronger defending force.

    • @fluffydestroyer8336
      @fluffydestroyer8336 8 місяців тому +39

      they're unique, not super unique

    • @Szgerle
      @Szgerle 8 місяців тому +21

      They really went out of their way to make things fun in '99

    • @Crateron1
      @Crateron1 8 місяців тому +11

      True, the Brood War mission design is work of art, a masterpiece in making a campaign fun and engaging.

    • @elonweintraub9758
      @elonweintraub9758 8 місяців тому +13

      True Colors plays well. But 500+ year old Phoenix being caught off guard by a woman he repeatedly says he doesn't trust and expects will try to kill him is an odd design choice from a lore perspective. It's hard to imagine he would get drunk and sleepy from partying. He has no mouth, and I don't think dragoons sleep.

  • @7thAce
    @7thAce 8 місяців тому +344

    This video is more than a challenge run. It's a celebration of an achievement and persistence. Well done on the insane run!

    • @solaariel2692
      @solaariel2692 8 місяців тому +20

      Out of curiosity, did Grant's routing for True Colours change anything for the speed run?

    • @7thAce
      @7thAce 8 місяців тому +40

      @@solaariel2692 Grant came up with the route after I did my last run of the campaign but challenged me to beat my time with his route. I haven't given it a good try yet, but I will some time.

    • @Baiswith
      @Baiswith 8 місяців тому +2

      Also literal poetry 🤣

  • @somewhereelse1235
    @somewhereelse1235 8 місяців тому +637

    7:40
    "OOOOR"
    You're not a protoss player if you don't cannon creep. Wonderful stuff, Grant.

    • @hinugundamB
      @hinugundamB 8 місяців тому +44

      its now mandatory to tower push the overmind.

    • @ltm277
      @ltm277 8 місяців тому +25

      Reinstalling and seeing how easy this is right now. Disgusted by how simple that looked

    • @somewhereelse1235
      @somewhereelse1235 8 місяців тому +13

      @@ltm277 It's surprisingly simple as long as you have a good economy and are defending your workers and cannons from the air

    • @UENShanix
      @UENShanix 8 місяців тому +31

      If Blizz didn't want people to cheese, they wouldn't've made Protoss playable. simple as

    • @lefrey344
      @lefrey344 8 місяців тому +4

      when i reached that part i laughed my ass and told to myself "that's a very dick move, Grant" xD

  • @BabinSquared
    @BabinSquared 8 місяців тому +55

    Fun fact about the second mission, Dunes of Shakuras: The trigger for the Zerg AI to begin is triggered by owning both a Nexus and a Pylon. You can mine out your entire base as long as you only build a Nexus.

    • @LiroRaeriyo
      @LiroRaeriyo 8 місяців тому +3

      wait... does that mean i could build nothing but nexus and just make a probe army?

    • @Memelord-md5hs
      @Memelord-md5hs 8 місяців тому +8

      @@LiroRaeriyotechnically yes but realistically no because probes are so fragile and do so little damage you'd basically never complete the mission in most cases
      The AI units will still attack they just don't bother moving or attacking until your very close by or attacking something close by (basically in their line of sight)

    • @BabinSquared
      @BabinSquared 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@LiroRaeriyo Yes, but I'm not sure if the level is possible to beat this way. But it does mean Grant could've walled off at the start of that mission! :p

  • @olegzubkov1109
    @olegzubkov1109 8 місяців тому +109

    Mengsk getting actively senile as each mission rolls around is so funny to me for no apparent reason.

    • @AtticusKarpenter
      @AtticusKarpenter 3 місяці тому +4

      He is conserving his braincells to become utterly genius ruler and fully rebuild Terran Dominion in measly 4 years between Brood War and SC 2. Zerg invasion coupled with civil war, UED invasion, reconquering stuff from UED in alliance with Zergs, then getting beaten by Zerg again, Terran colonies of Confederation/Dominion must have been devastated when Kerrigan walk off in the end of Brood War. Yet in SC 2 Dominion ready to receive beating again, and when Augustgrad assaulted for the third time, Valerian take in his hands state that still can do things
      I know its usual Blizzard bullshit just like with human kingdoms in Warcraft, that somehow rebuild in no time from Burning Legion (twice), Scourge (twice), Deathwing and other Avenger-level threats that devastated them. But still, they accidentally made Arcturus very talented as an nation leader

  • @MrSaturn113
    @MrSaturn113 8 місяців тому +110

    7:40 No....he can't be. There's no way he's doing that agai- You absolute madlad.
    It's a shame the early access peeps didn't get the bit at the end of the Terran mission.

  • @futsunamae2579
    @futsunamae2579 8 місяців тому +64

    40:50 Grant taking pleasure of the only time he can use a Zerg Queen to kill the last unit.

  • @Perral
    @Perral 8 місяців тому +50

    12:55 I cannot believe you even CONSIDERED using your last drone to make a building!

    • @ExValeFor
      @ExValeFor 8 місяців тому +16

      It's done. Overlord, take us out of orbit. Now!

  • @BagleNinja
    @BagleNinja 8 місяців тому +301

    "I hope Microsoft makes a starcraft 2" absolutely killed me well done this video was incredible

    • @IAMZERG
      @IAMZERG 8 місяців тому +8

      I didn't take this as a joke... thought his brain was so damaged from the run that part of his brain reverted to the early 2000's.

    • @StarHorder
      @StarHorder 8 місяців тому +8

      praying microsoft gives us starcraft: ghost

    • @cosmozone271
      @cosmozone271 7 місяців тому +1

      It's been a while, but, damn... People hated SC2 THAT much?
      (Story-wise, I think the gameplay's fine for all except maybe LOTV campaign)

    • @borga6566
      @borga6566 5 місяців тому +11

      @@cosmozone271 I love SC2, but yeah the 2nd game's story kinda craps all over the really great concepts of the first game unfortunately. There are some things I really like about the 2nd game's atmosphere and story though, but it's mostly isolated to Wings of Liberty. The Primal Zerg and Purifiers are pretty cool as concepts though!
      Having said that, there's also absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying the 2nd game's story. I don't personally think it's nearly as high quality, but I still find it very fun.
      Edit: After thinking more, I want to say that I was being very nice to SC2's story in the rest of my comment. There's a lot that really sucks and could've been so, so much better if they didn't rewrite their characters so damn much.

    • @julianfarnam6246
      @julianfarnam6246 4 місяці тому +5

      @@borga6566 I really liked sc2 but zerg is my favourite faction and I kinda wish that, well for one thing that heart of the swarm was either longer or a bit more challenging, and two that the zerg had stayed kinda evil? why did the unending hoard of all-consuming rabid space monsters get a redemption arc? And the primal zerg were kinda dumb imo, I preferred thinking that the overmind and its ceribrates hand-crafted the zerg evolving new units when they found useful enemies to assimilate. Zerg evolving semi-naturally is just sorta weird.

  • @theelectro6812
    @theelectro6812 8 місяців тому +2086

    Have you considered simply not losing a unit? Much easier

    • @Piotr-u1z
      @Piotr-u1z 8 місяців тому +71

      This is trigger to end all triggers .

    • @FaylurAtGamn
      @FaylurAtGamn 8 місяців тому +29

      Never would have thought of it

    • @Szokynyovics
      @Szokynyovics 8 місяців тому +8

      wow... I cannot imagine anything meaner than this. :D

    • @oskarrussjohansson4302
      @oskarrussjohansson4302 8 місяців тому +29

      Rich coming coming from you Skaven.

    • @theelectro6812
      @theelectro6812 8 місяців тому

      @@oskarrussjohansson4302 TRUE

  • @Sylvershade
    @Sylvershade 8 місяців тому +12

    In Dylarian Shipyard, Duke has all his risqué pictures in one of those battlecruisers so he orders his fleet to destroy it at all costs.

  • @JustInCaseD
    @JustInCaseD 8 місяців тому +29

    My God dude, did you just completely debunk and create a brand new speedrun route just to beat the game deathless on True Colors? This is the 2nd time you’ve done this too, with the discovery of the Trigger Break from no production SC2 all that time back. Mad respect.
    You are an absolute legend Grant, you got me back into StarCraft after quitting the game years ago and I thank you for all the creativity and innovation you continue to bring to this aging dinosaur of a franchise. Please keep doing more of this.
    I still want you to make Merch tho, I’d kill for a punny GGG’s t-shirt

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 8 місяців тому +44

    Fun fact about Cerebate killing:
    The triggers _can not_ actually check who does the killing blow. Instead, there is a simple trigger that respawns the cerebrate building. It is disabled if a Dark Templar is roughly in the area.
    So no reason to hold back the rest of your forces. Once the DT are hugging it, the Cerebrate is dead. You could do a "no melee" challenge and still beat the Cerebrates both times.

    • @TYR1139
      @TYR1139 8 місяців тому +35

      He already explained that in Zealots only

  • @maxastro
    @maxastro 8 місяців тому +79

    I love how you literally invented new speedrun tech because the old tech wasn't working for you.

    • @gareththorn4356
      @gareththorn4356 14 днів тому

      This isn't a speedrun, and you can figuratively invent things.
      When you make up your own rules, you'll have to make up your own tactics.

  • @khaluu2000
    @khaluu2000 8 місяців тому +35

    Zealot: My Life For Aiur!
    GiantGrantGame: Stay in the shuttle, it’s not safe buddy

  • @barnabyandanthonysofficial1497
    @barnabyandanthonysofficial1497 8 місяців тому +73

    @17:01 I love the Dr. Seuss tribute

    • @SH4D0W0733
      @SH4D0W0733 8 місяців тому +6

      Seems the defense mission broke him.

  • @GumshoeClassic
    @GumshoeClassic 8 місяців тому +55

    The old Protoss waddle never fails to bring a smile to my face. Look at them go!

  • @neartheplumtree
    @neartheplumtree 8 місяців тому +36

    OH MY GOD I was just rewatching your deathless sc1 playthrough and lamenting that there wasn't a brood war one, I'm so glad to see this, thank you!

  • @CJOmega93
    @CJOmega93 8 місяців тому +51

    19:45 "Sir, what are your orders!" "All weapons on that Battlecruiser!" "Sir he is retreating, should we target a new enemy with the armada?" "No, send everything to attack that single ship!" "Sir, I don't think that is a good idea, there are 18 battlecrusers firing against us!" "I will not be stopped, not by you, the confederates, the protoss or anyone, now kill that singular ship!" "But sir, why that one in particular?" "...He stole my sandwich..."

  • @yuridhjeeyn9034
    @yuridhjeeyn9034 8 місяців тому +101

    Age of Mythology deathless
    you have my condolences
    may the RNG gods favour you
    because the in-game-gods will try their best to destroy whatever is left of your sanity after this run
    e.g. fighting against Zeus with the Lightning Bolt spell/miracle

    • @barondiamondo6676
      @barondiamondo6676 8 місяців тому +3

      For luck, we are never fight against Zeus expect Atlantis campaign and even then it's not using

    • @yuridhjeeyn9034
      @yuridhjeeyn9034 8 місяців тому +4

      @@barondiamondo6676there is a new rendition in the making
      so we will have to see if he uses that for the challenge
      and if he does then all bets are off, because we don't know what will be changed and what will be the same
      (even if it looks like they want to let it stay the same for the most part)

    • @exzenosisharbingaar9000
      @exzenosisharbingaar9000 8 місяців тому +8

      @@yuridhjeeyn9034 I heard rumors in AoM: Retold, God Powers are no longer finite and have cooldowns; and the only one who can tank Lightning Bolts are Titans... none of which are in the campaigns or on your side in the Titans campaign; because throwing human units is basically a death sentence due to AOE attacks.

    • @ismael9914
      @ismael9914 8 місяців тому +1

      I looked at the speedruns of the game, I think Grant can follow/adapt some of the cheese

    • @ろうにん浪人
      @ろうにん浪人 8 місяців тому

      @@exzenosisharbingaar9000 I would be more concerned about the myth units in that game. The medusa can stone other units, the mummy can turn the nidhogg (was funny to find this one out. I was cheating so it didn't impact me, just wanted to point that out) into a minion, and so on. Now yes, heros are immune to that, but how many heros are you going to have against how many myth units like that?
      The god powers used in that game could be run enders sure, but they are specific moments when compared to the units you may see.

  • @CyrusVorazan
    @CyrusVorazan 8 місяців тому +23

    I hate to be one of those guys, but I think Grant made the Countdown harder for himself than it should've been. As an upstanding Random Person on the Internet™, I loaded the game and tried it myself. In the end I could beat the mission without losing a unit with the following composition:
    24 scouts, 3 corsairs, 200+ photon cannons.
    As much as people like to meme on scouts, they are actually quite good in a couple of situations. First, they take 3 scourge hits to go down, and with their speed upgrade, they actually outrun the scourge and provide plenty of room for micro, being also able to return to base to refill on shields. On top of that, a control group of scouts with +3 attack is fairly decent at focus-firing any hydras, spore colonies, queens, mutas and guardians, struggling really only with ultralisks, which fortunately never learned to jump and chew on the Golden Armada's hulls.
    3 corsairs also can disable up to 6 spore colonies or other high-threat targets if needed. Otherwise, they are not very useful since scouts are still better at dealing with air units.
    But the meat of this strategy is, of course, the photon cannons. Grant for some reason refused to get and fortify more bases, which I think was the biggest mistake, and also most of his minerals went into scarab production. The one and only thing that can threaten a base surrounded by photon cannons (even more exposed ones), is guardians. And besides the fact that often guardians are stupid and fly into cannons on their own accord, you may have guessed this already - scouts absolutely pulverize guardians.
    So, I used scouts and corsairs to defeat Red, surrounded all my bases with copious amounts of cannon, sniped any guardians with scouts, and the zerg couldn't even get close to the temple or any of my other units.
    ...
    ...
    ...
    And I still had to reset a couple of times because of defilers.

    • @jothrax4673
      @jothrax4673 6 місяців тому +3

      The vids inspired to do this deathless and I had the same experience.
      I used Carriers to defeat the Red base with mostly sunken colonies (I don't get Grants refusal to use them - if you have at least 6 carriers the interceptors rarely die). For the anti-air Red base I used reavers backed by arbiter-cloaked dragoons.
      As for the defense segment, pull all your troops to the temple & fill the border with cannons. The zerg will waste time attacking your empty bases.
      At this point, it's Cannons and Scouts, like you said. Cannons defend the ground and scouts swat out the guardians (I just had 12 scouts and controlled them the whole defense segment).
      It was tricky to figure out, but it was nowhere near the nightmare Grant makes it out to be.

    • @bobbybkh1471
      @bobbybkh1471 Місяць тому

      Great piece of information!
      Also, I read this with Grant's voice. XD

  • @dabbwolf
    @dabbwolf 8 місяців тому +37

    Yup, that's two campaigns done! Surely the video is close to an end? Right? ...R-right?
    It's always a good day when Grant uploads these videos, I can't get enough.
    Also, loving the little detail of mission info getting shown on those "consoles" that are similar to the current campaign faction.

    • @NicD
      @NicD 8 місяців тому +2

      Even the UA-cam chapter title lampshades it!

  • @synka5922
    @synka5922 8 місяців тому +6

    doing a deathless run of a game where a unit simply has a "fuck you, you're dead" 1 shot ability seems like a pain

  • @psinjo
    @psinjo 8 місяців тому +14

    for what it's worth, i got your reference to the AMAZING "i canon rushed the overmind, he ragequit and didn't even gg" from the previous video!
    ... however, having never played starcraft 1 with anyone else (i legit didn't even know it was a pc game for 10+years, i grew up playing it on n64)
    I didn't even know you could static rush with anything but photon canons... so i missed that part of the joke ><
    It was super cool to hear you in the gdq run! I thought you guys all did a great job, and the run was fun! (i may still be telling my friends about the new canon of kerrigan being the nicest person ever... "abusing power' indeed ^^)

  • @GeneralFatman27
    @GeneralFatman27 8 місяців тому +6

    "Can You Beat StarCraft: Brood War Without Losing A Unit?"
    Uh, no. No I can't. But I'm glad you can!

  • @ued_general5805
    @ued_general5805 8 місяців тому +49

    Fenix: " You won't find me easy prey..."
    Zerg Queen: Hold my beer 🍺

  • @DoomieGruntVentures
    @DoomieGruntVentures 8 місяців тому +22

    **blows through terran and protoss campaigns** Oh, that's looking good.
    **Zerg comes up** Alright.
    **there's still another half hour left** ...oh no

  • @ZwSilenstripe
    @ZwSilenstripe 8 місяців тому +19

    i love your commitment to the static defense rush against the overmind

  • @notsm
    @notsm 8 місяців тому +8

    54:22 *Microsoft makes a SC2*. I didn't even notice that when I heard it and it took me a bit to get that perspective rollercoster. Well played

  • @Shepherd1952
    @Shepherd1952 8 місяців тому +50

    The literal disrespect to the overmimd with that second cannon rush.

    • @WoobertAIO
      @WoobertAIO 8 місяців тому +10

      And the third, and the fourth

  • @naturelulI
    @naturelulI 8 місяців тому +8

    I like how you, despite having beaten all of SC2 deathless, and then WOL again with everything you'd learnt, and gone through much of SC1, still find ways to improve. Though its unfortunate your soul had to suffer so much to accomplish it. I'm willing to donate my soul if you need a transplant.

  • @altromonte15
    @altromonte15 8 місяців тому +3

    I love the dichotomy between "I had to come up with a clever strategy, AI manipulation, pushing my micro to the limit" missions and "I took a taxi around the map and went behind the enemy defences, done in 2 minutes" missions

  • @WestCityBlaze
    @WestCityBlaze 8 місяців тому +11

    I think for Zerg Brood War mission 6, holding up the Player 5’s (Orange) Zerg Wave until they despawned (and maybe killing the Lurkers too) messed with all the switches in the mission’s triggers for Player 5.
    Normally, Orange destroys the northern towns, then an Area Town trigger for the northern towns that is ALSO paired with the Main Town AI Script activates through series of switch triggers (this holds true for Brown Player 6 for the southern towns).
    Some switches normally clear, some are set, some are cleared by others being set, and others set by being others being cleared (there’s so many for both Players 5 and 6; Orange and Brown respectively). This is probably what broke the Orange Zerg’s AI behavior for Fury of the Swarm from functioning normally and seemingly going ballistic lol.

    • @andresv.9365
      @andresv.9365 8 місяців тому +3

      I was thinking it had something to do about that, though I've never seen the map editor version of these misions. Also the AI going ballistic over random places probably has to do with the fact that in SC1 map editor you can't create new locations during gameplay, every location has to be created beforehand. You can move already existing locations with triggers afterwards tho. So what's probably happening is that locations that trigger AI priorities on defense are placed in some weird places on the map, just to get moved to the bases after they are built. But if they never get moved because the triggers got broken after preventing the bases gwtting built, they just stayed in those weird placed. Which means you can actually learn which places to avoid to trigger the AI reaction.
      I actually love SC1 AI and map editor. It's overall so simple yet you can do a lot with those limited options. That also means there are so many ways to break it as you have to do lots of weird turnarounds to get the game do what you want.

    • @WestCityBlaze
      @WestCityBlaze 8 місяців тому +3

      @@andresv.9365 there’s a way to extract the missions themselves from the MPQ files (as well as the WAV files). SCM Draft 2 is needed to open them though due to how they’re saved, but you can see the triggers after opening the campaign missions.
      Brood War Zerg Mission 6 has a lot of trigger switches that are chained and paired to each other in the first 2-3 minutes of the game. The initial Zerg attack waves are part of those trigger switches. Player 5’s opening assault wave being blocked for the entirety of this time is what seemingly broke up the trigger switches and how the Orange AI would behave for the rest of the mission.
      I even checked for a ‘Value This Area Higher at Anywhere’ to see if it could explain the AI broken attack and defense patterns, but no such thing was present. Only the Brood Wars Mission 6 Main Town and Area Town (Area Town being assigned at the northern town locations) after the northern Purple Towns were destroyed.

  • @tomateaterrador
    @tomateaterrador 8 місяців тому +2

    Never thought this would be achievable. I dropped the run on the Zerg campaign because sciense vessels can kill everything below Devourer's HP (250) by just casting Irradiate, Overlords being a common target.
    Incredible video and amazing out-of-the-box thinking. I enjoy watching this, every single upload you make there is something new to learn

  • @yonokhanman654
    @yonokhanman654 8 місяців тому +18

    6:11 I love this mission, this and the second UED mission and the first Zerg Mission were such a breath of fresh air!
    39:01 Damn that strategy is so satisfying!

    • @anton7c3
      @anton7c3 8 місяців тому +1

      The first one is even better in reverse

    • @NoESanity
      @NoESanity 8 місяців тому +3

      the puzzle strategy missions are great, another great thing with the BW campaigns is the multiple victory missions.
      in protoss you have return to char, fight the overmind or steal the crystal, simple enough but a great look at an OR mission.
      in terran we had assault on korhal, battlecruisers or nukes, and even better the next mission actually integrates your choice into the mission. creating 2 very different missions.
      in zerg we get the Kel-morian combine, the basic objective to get 10,000 cash and move on is amazing because you start off the next mission drowning in money, but it has a secret objective, because you can capture the command centers. not only does capturing all the command centers win the mission regardless of the cash you collect, but also brings the command centers into the next mission. (which also means there are 6 possible variations of the mission with is mind boggling on it's own)
      but these 5(11) missions really build up on the idea that it's a real war, your actions matter and the way they train you, starting early with "hey, you have choices" moving into "hey your choices matter." and just taking that idea as far as the engine can handle it. it really shows the passion that they use to have. it's to bad they didn't keep it.

    • @stellacollector
      @stellacollector 8 місяців тому +1

      Agree. I genuinely do love Brood War no build missions.

    • @Teinve
      @Teinve 8 місяців тому

      Shoutout for the genghis khan profile pic :D
      I hope we get a worthy successor to AOE 2 and SC Brood War one day ...

  • @benhornstein1688
    @benhornstein1688 8 місяців тому +7

    Can I just say that the commentary is top-notch? Really, really well done. And sorry for the pain deathless Brood War has brought you. Judging by how many red health bars I saw, I think your units were in just as much pain.

  • @dosbueno2gud
    @dosbueno2gud 8 місяців тому +6

    27:00 I got the joke when you did it with protoss earlier in the video and "The Overmind is bronze league" has badly infected my vocabulary.

  • @samueltrusik3251
    @samueltrusik3251 8 місяців тому +8

    I was JUST rewatching all of your SC1 videos because I love them so much, this is amazing!

  • @IReallyLikeHam
    @IReallyLikeHam 8 місяців тому +6

    Thank you a lot, Grant, for your content. Enjoy watching it. Also thanks to your 100% streams got 100% in sc2 myself. And now me with my friends playing ffa on sc1 because we were inspired by your runs. Thanks a lot

    • @realLagMaster
      @realLagMaster 8 місяців тому

      Can I join?

    • @IReallyLikeHam
      @IReallyLikeHam 8 місяців тому

      @realLagMaster sorry, I don't think so
      We are small non-English-speaking community and we don't play much

  • @pritoss5890
    @pritoss5890 8 місяців тому +14

    You have done a lot of challenges I thought were impossible and you proved me wrong. I still think Broodwar deathless can't be done. I look forward to how you prove me wrong again.

  • @1346528000
    @1346528000 8 місяців тому +10

    "Age of mythology deathless doesnt seem that bad now"]
    Gargarensis: You will regret that.

    • @MinMaxerGaming
      @MinMaxerGaming 8 місяців тому +1

      It's doable! I've uploaded little grant style videos about my strats for it.

  • @evernewb2073
    @evernewb2073 8 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely *_adore_* just how much lovingly/doggedly researched and developed Jank goes into this cheezetastic accomplishment.
    and since making comments about the original version of the game that I have NO idea whether or not apply to Remastered seems to be my trend here here's one related to gloriously janky cheeze and AI abuse: if you can get a firebat into a position where the pathing/targeting lets them fire at the _start_ of their range instead of the end of it they can kill an infinite conga-line of cracklings running straight at them until the game crashes (probably the reason they are a mele unit to begin with despite having a ranged AOE attack, smart firebats are OP as heck). I can't remember if that requires an upgrade advantage or not though, I rather doubt it since every time I remember doing that was during campaign missions as a cheeze method since they will keep spawning zerglings infinitely to attempt to deal with the problem if they are 1: out of units and 2: still have the agitating unit in vision range despite zerglings being the worst unit in the game to deal with firebats, possibly because they spawn the fastest and it's only 1 unit? anyways! they might not actually need resources to build things but they DO need larva so this can pretty much just hard-pin an AI faction with 1 unit on hold position in a surprising number of places.

  • @LDSG_A_Team
    @LDSG_A_Team 8 місяців тому +5

    I will never get to the point where I've had enough of Grant's humor. It's actually impossible. Every minute of every one of these videos is incredibly enjoyable 😆😆😆

  • @barondiamondo6676
    @barondiamondo6676 8 місяців тому +4

    Ha yes, fresh, pure content, thank you, Grant, love your style.
    Also, that gag with static defense rush, it's gold. Now you are need tower rush Titans in Mythology

  • @AceOBlade
    @AceOBlade 8 місяців тому +4

    you know it was hard when he starts thinking about age of mythology deathless XD

  • @alamei
    @alamei 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm amazed you were able to get through this challenge given how unbelievably broodling happy the AI is with its queens in BW. We appreciate the deep pain you go through to complete absurd challenges like this. Thank you for the incredible content.

  • @omegafighters
    @omegafighters 8 місяців тому +3

    I remember playing these as a kid. I couldn't beat them without cheats. Well done!

  • @KaelDraykose
    @KaelDraykose 8 місяців тому +2

    Heck yes, love that you took out the Terran's Command Centers! I figured that SC1 AI genuinely needs to mine minerals in order to produce, so, whenever doing that mission I've ALWAYS taken out both the factions CCs/Nexuses and Probes/SCVs. Rest of the mission is a cakewalk from there.

  • @emckernon
    @emckernon 8 місяців тому +4

    Ah I've been looking forward to this one for ages! Brood war has so much nostalgia for me and this released the day I had a boring train journey, perfect : - )
    I was glad to see you going for the command centres and SCVs on True Blood, my strategy was always to go snipe the Nexus/Command Centres and SCVs/Probes, always took a few tries but if it works the enemy can't do anything (to the extent that the mission becomes kinda boring). Heart-breaking to see you spawn broodling on noble Fenix, that poor guy. Also it's hilarious how much you consistently hate the Kel-Morian Combine, I used to love that one but the frustration is understandable and funny.
    Really enjoyed this one, especially the parts where the voiceover drops out and we just hear the diagetic BW music and sound effects, they're really effective (on that point, why use the SC2 music in the background of the voiceover when SC1 has such good music!). I'd love to see more SC1/BW vids but I'm excited for whatever comes next!

  • @diddymelone2265
    @diddymelone2265 8 місяців тому +3

    haha, I speculated that the broodwar video was delayed because bw without losing a unit would be super crazy hard!
    havent started watching yet, but I am hyped af

  • @MarianokunPony
    @MarianokunPony 8 місяців тому +22

    31:08 I still love internet explorer jokes 🤣

  • @zswords
    @zswords 8 місяців тому +1

    I see that 'Why does the Zerg Campaign Start with half the video left?' segment. :) I caught that

  • @sakulyah
    @sakulyah 8 місяців тому +2

    Goddamn that sneak attack routing... magnificent.

  • @carlspangler9278
    @carlspangler9278 8 місяців тому +1

    When i saw the title of your video, I said "no!," and i thought the hour long video was going to be you showing why.
    I'm dumbfounded. Nice job, you absolute legend!

  • @knokykak1736
    @knokykak1736 8 місяців тому +6

    HUH, you selected a zerg unit too 0:50

    • @anton7c3
      @anton7c3 8 місяців тому

      Starcraft tends to break at 150+ APM :)

    • @myshiftisbroken
      @myshiftisbroken 8 місяців тому

      The most important question is if it died 😂

    • @zaxtonhong3958
      @zaxtonhong3958 8 місяців тому +1

      This mission uses a zergling that spawns and despawns instantly in order to rescue zealots. Don’t ask why

    • @anton7c3
      @anton7c3 8 місяців тому

      @@zaxtonhong3958 because brood war AI is insane? :)

  • @Ziggy27
    @Ziggy27 8 місяців тому +1

    Never had seen any videos of your channel before, found this in my suggested videos. So glad I did- absoultely magnificent content!

  • @chlorophyteknight
    @chlorophyteknight 6 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for making this video. I've been trying to figure out how to beat all of SC1 without making workers and "True Colors" was genuinely impossible without destroying the terran in the sneak attack phase. Using your strategy I was able to beat the mission and now I can confidently say that there is a CHANCE the run is possible.

  • @danielhale1
    @danielhale1 8 місяців тому

    Fantastic! I almost can't believe you pulled it off! For me, scourge were always my bane in air (hard to take down in time), and siege tanks on ground, but the real challenge was always the dark archons and queens. Their abilities have maximum range, and they can fire them off in a _split_ second. The AI has infinite attention span and you cannot distract it by hitting in two places at once; it will perfectly micro everything everywhere all at once, instantly. Your solution is brilliant!
    BTW, in response to the medic+SCV combo: SCVs can repair each other, and I've used that before medics were available, though the repair speed was abysmal. They are both biological and mechanical, so if you're missing medics and don't want a SCV to die, you can top off its health with other SCVs.

  • @astovar23
    @astovar23 8 місяців тому +2

    Congratulations that couldn't be easy! And congrats again for your appearance in GDQ that was awesome!

  • @taestott
    @taestott 8 місяців тому +1

    I think this is the most impressive video you've made yet. I originally thought that SC2 deathless was impossible, and you proved me wrong. I thought FOR SURE that Brood War deathless would be 100% impossible, and you proved me wrong again.

  • @mentleboy07
    @mentleboy07 8 місяців тому +1

    UA-cam just asked if this was a good reccomendation for me. So I of course gave it a 5 out of 5 and said it was useful informative and entertaining....and I haven't even seen it yet, but I know the quality of this channel. Hope its a small help and makes the incredible effort you put in worth it grant!

  • @thadman3003
    @thadman3003 8 місяців тому +1

    It's the long awaited video that's taken grant's power for the last few months. Can't wait to watch the mad lad do it, God I hope he does it.
    That rhyme slapped
    That nuke hurt, only 200 minerals to go
    Your script writing is so good, and the delivery is timed so well with the video.
    Let's fing goooooo!!!!!!!!!

  • @348joey
    @348joey 8 місяців тому +1

    6:25 You know you can use the shuttle vision and a very carefully placed dragoon to shoot at the first missile turret on that ridge. Once it's destroyed, you can drop your troops on the upper platform and hug the bottom side to bypass the first area entirely. Go down a bit towards where the generator is, kill the nearby missile turrets, then drop a few guys next to the generator. You'll then be given DTs that can quickly kill all the bunkers that would've stood in your way.

  • @ZebbysGameRoom
    @ZebbysGameRoom 8 місяців тому +1

    Yaaaaaay I'm so excited! Been waiting for this. Happy to see a new main channel video. Love the archive stuff though.
    Amazing work as always Grant I'm 9:25mins in and already laughed so hard I needed to pause twice. Perfect ♥️

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 8 місяців тому +2

    "Poor" Mengsk got that Reed Richards treatment😅 Explains some of his choices in SC2 though.

  • @skl-1371
    @skl-1371 8 місяців тому +3

    You are a triple G gamer man!, love your videos, all sort of challenge runs and especially if they were old games!.

  • @PokemonHaloFan
    @PokemonHaloFan 8 місяців тому +1

    In 21 years of playing Brood War I have yet to beat the Zerg Campaign normally. Did the Protoss and Terran campaigns fine but Zerg stopped me dead with To Slay the Beast. The fact you did it without losing a single unit is mind boggling.

  • @micropocari1604
    @micropocari1604 4 місяці тому

    21:07
    Little tip for the top left base.
    Aside from 3 burrowed hydralisks well above the hive, they have 0 Anti Air defences.
    You can make ONE wraith and send him up there to tickle the hive to death. They zerg won't even respond to him.
    They can't produce any anti air, nor can the burrowed hydralisks move without a terran unit going into their agro range.

  • @reynardreynard3133
    @reynardreynard3133 8 місяців тому

    Boy do I like to get surprised by a video of yours once every couple of months, it's always great quality and entertaining to watch. Love the crazy challenges and some of the crazy things you need to do to complete them, keep them coming, great work man

  • @immortalgamer3960
    @immortalgamer3960 8 місяців тому

    Man, I always play the Countdown clearing out all the Zerg and, until I saw this, I would not have believed the mission was even possible deathless. No judgement for you final solution, that is still hella impressive! (I also like that your note on using Carries was just LOL) XD

  • @herrdoktor1810
    @herrdoktor1810 7 місяців тому +1

    0:48 Never realized they gave the player a burrowed Zergling, so all the Zealots would rescue properly.

  • @TNMJAD
    @TNMJAD 8 місяців тому

    I attempted some of this after your SC base game video. On the first mission, I had to slow the game speed down to complete the micro before one of the zealots died. Great run!

  • @kuronanestimare
    @kuronanestimare 8 місяців тому

    7:40 I can't believe GiantGrantGames got Classified Protoss Footage of the beginning of Probius' career!
    26:39 While it's not as funny as the original joke, this does at least put a good context for what's happening. Thanks for adding in the Post-Script, and thank you to any Patrons that called this out.
    I am sorry you had to suffer through Countdown, but I am also glad you were able to beat all of the campaigns and make this video.

  • @BRA1NST0RM
    @BRA1NST0RM 8 місяців тому +2

    6:12 I was expecting to hear your catch phrase: 5 power generators each guarded by a progressively stronger group of enemies 😅

  • @Wingedtravesty
    @Wingedtravesty 8 місяців тому +1

    Didn't think you'd manage, but you never cease to amaze with your skill and tenacity. GG

  • @Jeff_the_Hobo
    @Jeff_the_Hobo 8 місяців тому +3

    6:02 Remembering the forcefield goliath from the stream that blocked kerrigan for like 6 whole seconds.

  • @rraune7515
    @rraune7515 8 місяців тому

    I was looking forward to this for a long time. Thank you for taking up this challenge and making the video about it ^^

  • @eli1525
    @eli1525 7 місяців тому

    I was enjoying this greatly…And then the rhyming narration begun - and I started Loving this. So good

  • @polishgaming9396
    @polishgaming9396 8 місяців тому +2

    You speak of challenge runs, judicator? You speak of pain? I have spent weeks doing runs of my own. I have wasted countless hours just to beat "The Culling" with the starting forces and almost managed to do it in a truly deathless fashion at that. Unto my experience, Grant, your zerg runs aren't tru deathless experiences as you have morphed countless structures. What awaits me next is known as the pain of beating "Dunes of Shakuras" with just the starting 4 zealots. And yet, I cannot deny the necessity nor the valiancy of your actions. After all, it's all your fault that I have spiraled into this madness. Fight on, judicator. Don't give up the fight. For it is we that keep the dying fandoms going, despite their abandonment by their creators.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 8 місяців тому

    Darn! All the strategies that you came with is simply astonishing!
    Thanks for the video, Grant!

  • @NeoN-PeoN
    @NeoN-PeoN 2 місяці тому +1

    Even with save-scumming, I can't believe you succeeded in that mission with no unit losses. That's INSANE.

  • @potenviking
    @potenviking 8 місяців тому

    Dropships in Starcraft are very easy to use - you just need to know two micro tricks
    1. You can click unload and select on the dropship (shuttle, ove, whatever) and it would unload while moving
    2. You can select all your dropships look at the two most separated ones measure where the center between them is and click unload to a place that is equally far away from both of them (or close to both of them. Thats called center of gravity or magic boxing. With those two, idk why would anyone complain.

  • @RufusKyura
    @RufusKyura 8 місяців тому +1

    Damn, how I missed the deathless challenges videos. I know it causes pain without end for you, Grant, but I love these kinds of videos.
    Can't wait for the next challenge run!

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 8 місяців тому +1

    45:02 Maybe Orange’s “original” base doesn’t start as its home base but rather one of the three you saved at the start of the game? It would “expand” from your base rather than its own!

  • @agrashh
    @agrashh 8 місяців тому

    I just completed the starcraft remastered + brood war for the second time (after the initial release way back) and boy it was hard/tedious at some points. Way harder than any other RTS campaign that I played. Loved every second of it though!
    Nice video!

  • @TrentBattyDrums
    @TrentBattyDrums 8 місяців тому

    Mad respect dude. I wanted to see how you handled the big zealot zergling battle in the beginning. Absolutely brilliant to just walk by. Never thought of that lmao. Simple and effective.

  • @hetaresgaming7771
    @hetaresgaming7771 8 місяців тому +1

    As a kid, I did the first part of the first Protoss mission with only Zeratul, carefully picking away at the units one by one with Zeratul's powerful 1 hit kill blade. I had a weird sort of 'save everyone' mentality.

  • @XupyprKZ
    @XupyprKZ 8 місяців тому +16

    When the Cannon Rush started, i cried and laughed and shaked, hoping it will be a recurring gag i'd understand, but then nobody understood the gag in mentioned "PATREON" group
    Also the table with Infested terran having ??????????????????????????????? is extremely hillarious

  • @SquallLionhart409
    @SquallLionhart409 8 місяців тому

    Good Game and Well Played. Broodwar is such a different beast in terms of difficulty, with so many instant death abilities that you can do nothing about, that I was almost surprised to see this video pop up.

  • @jer12428
    @jer12428 8 місяців тому

    I was just rewatching the older ones of these over the last few days. Amazing work, keep crafting those stars!