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Imperial navy : "Uses copious amounts of guns n ships" Eldar : "Hight tech fast hit and run ship combat" Orks : "Throw stuff at it." Space marines : "Throw marines at it and ignore the problem until they call for pickup."
"Astarties chapters only choose to engage enemy warships on favourable terms" That's code for "they are in range for the boarding torpedoes", that's about as favourable as it ever gets for the Astarties.
There's also this one ship in 40k called the Speranza. A small bit of lore from it is that the Speranza was attacking an Eldar Craftworld. The Speranza fired what could be its killing blow but the Craftworld managed to escape the projectile's trajectory path. In response, the Speranza fired what is essentially a wayback beam onto the Craftworld, sending it back in time before it escaped the trajectory path. The Speranza sent a planetoid-sized ship back in time so that it wouldn't miss.
Epic miles long Space Cathedrals with extinction level firepower, manned by tens of thousands of crew and slaves, many of whom will be born, live and die within a single ship, spending centuries and sometimes millenia traversing the hostile void. 40K is awesome.
Only issue is that writers have no sense of scale. An 8,500 meter ship would have a mass measured in single-digit *gigatonnes*, require a crew in the hundreds of thousands even *with* extensive automation, and could fit entire hectares of vehicle bays without trouble. 3 companies? Try 3 *Legions*. No, seriously; most legions were around 100,000 Astartes; 300,000 of them, plus supplies, armored vehicles, maintenance and production facilities... All of that could still fit with plenty of room to spare. It would make more sense if you integrated Astartes and Astra Militarum better though; Space Marines are great for shattering enemy strongpoints, but they are too valuable and don't have the numbers to invest any larger areas than a small city. A couple of companies is more than enough for all but the strongest opponents, and with one or two million Guardsmen in tow they could actually take and hold a populated world on their own. They would be spread thin, but that's what orbital superiority is for. Doesn't keep it from being completely fucking awesome, of course. AVE IMPERATOR!
Siathuan technically, all of the astartes ships, both pre and post the Horus Heresy are manned by non-marine human serfs, with tens of thousands in the crew of a battle barge. Also, the battle barges were built to be the self-sustaining base of operation of an entire chapter from a single legion, usually along with an auxiliary AdMech Titan formation and a number of army auxiliary regiments and all the repair and refit facilities to maintain all but the most complicated equipment. As for legion sizes, you have blown that out of proportions. Afaik, only the Ultramarines were more than 100k marines strong pre heresy, Word Bearers at around 85k-90k, and the rest somewhere between 50k-70k while the Thousand sons as the runt of the legions at less than 40k marines prior to the atrocity at Prospero. Also, the imperial truth is a lie. Death to the false emperor!
I know that Astartes ships are crewed by serfs, I'm just saying that they could fit in a whole lot more - both Space Marines and equipment - in a ship as absurdly oversized as a battlebarge is. ... On second thought, it's actually a rather sane distribution. In lore - as opposed to gameplay (not counting Space Marine) - a company or three is more than enough for just about all purposes. Any more than that, and you'll be needing the additional battlebarges just to cement control over the orbitals. Hm. And a filthy heretic like you have no room to speak about the God-Emperor, but - it must be admitted - like all the best lies, your words hold a grain of truth: The Imperial Truth was a lie. The Emperor tried to deny His own divinity, for He had Faith in humanity, to stand on our own. But then traitors, *like you*, proved that many are too weak to live without something to worship. And so, He again took on the burden of becoming our Idol, and so He still watches over us, and safeguards the weak and the foolish from the depredations of the Daemon and the Alien.
The sheer size of the Battle Barge probably stems from the time of the Great Crusade, when the Space Marines and the Imperial Army worked much closer together and therefore would need much more space inside to house both Marines and Imperial Army support forces. Then, after the Heresy happened and the Mechanicus decided that inventing things was now heresy, nobody was suicidal enough to try and get them changed.
I'm guessing roll one was time when Astartes had this suicidal idea of using teleporters in boarding action. First choice is always thunder hawk dropship, or boarding torpedo. Teleporters in 40k are some what... iffy so those are used only in most direst need, against most fortified positions of enemy/most problematic enemy ships. Sure tech is there and it kinda work, but time to time one Astartes might get into destination, or get inside the rock, fused with it, or not might appear again. Expected casualties to Astartes company deploying this way are rather high and losing battle brothers like this before even enemy contact is pretty stupid. Sure you could do that with sisters of battle.. just open the chamber door of teleporter, point inside and shout "HERETIC" and thsoe crazy bitches will run inside with out second thought. Orcs use some what , possible usable teleporter tech, but expecting losses and worrying about such things are just for hummies and orcs have plenty where to spare. Orcs just trow enough shit in the wall that something will stick. Same thing with teleporters.
-Brother it appears my drop pod has malfunctioned. -Y-yes, i am on an unplanned cruise. -Yes, when you put it like that i have indeed flung myself into space. -I do not appreciate your tone of voice brother now send a search party it's rather uncomfortable in here
I wouldn't be surprised if most windows were just painted on for the cathedral look. After all, windows are inherent weak points in anything dealing with pressure differences. And multi-story high windows even more so.
@@Pystro Funny that primarch Perturabo thought the same as you, so his flagship used to have no windows, only screens. But then at one battle, he couldn't hold the urge to see it himself thus he had to watch from an airlock. After that he installed some windows onto the bridge.
Personally I love the Gloriana-class of Battleship, made expressly for the Primarchs. Each one customized to the Primarch's personal combat style. The Conqueror was damned interesting, being heavily up-armored beyond what even a normal Gloriana would have, and equipped with Ursus Claws: building-sized retractable harpoon missiles attached to enormous chains that were launched at ships, burrowing deep into their hull before magnetizing and deploying grips, to draw the ship in closer so the Conqueror's short-range weapons could be used to utterly shred the ship. The Conqueror needed all that extra armor and weapons just to pull off that kind of attack, but they made it work. LoL Heck of a demotivator when you saw this huge battleship send tendrils out to snag your ship out of space.
@@Elthenar And Corvus Corax had his (and his fleet) reworked so the Void shields inverted and acted as cloaking devices instead of protective barriers. Visually, and sensor-wise, the ships just ceased to exist about 99%. If you knew what to scan for or look for, you could catch trace of them (which is how the traitors kept trying to track them), but it was really easy to lose lock and contact.
"We are the reapers, riding the scything blades of mankind. They are but chaff, cut down by the Emperor's design. You wished to see what the Imperium of Man has to offer...look no further than these strike cruisers, and the men who command them." -Sergeant Alnor Traske of the Black Templar to the rogue Prince Lannaer.
The biggest ships humanity has made in 30k--40k lore is the Gloriana-class Battleship. 19960 meters. That, ladies and gentlemen. Makes it bigger than the Eclipse-class dreadnought from Star Wars, also known as Emperor Palpatine's personal flagship, which has a length of 17500 meters. There were two Eclipse-class dreadnoughts. The Imperium built 20 Gloriana-class Battleships.
Jordan actually the no two Gloriana class battleships are alike the biggest is MACRAGGS HONOR at 26 kilometers long while the vengeful spirit is only 20 kilometers long
Jordan ahh but legends has around 18 executor superstardestroyers built. canon has around 13 built. cant forget about that fam an executor is 19km long plus the 2 eclipses they built in legends. in canon, palpatines secret flagship was also named the eclipse but we havent seen it yet. Its from the aftermath books and its the rumoured new super star destroyer that snoke has. Which would make sense since the imperial remanants were sent by palpatines sentinel droids (the droids in red robes in the battlefront 2 trailer) to the unknown region. The imperials that were sent to the unknown regions found palpatines secret fleet and weapons at the coordinates they were sent to, including the canon version of the eclipse. Its why the first order has massive resurgance class isds and shit. Combine that with 30 years of development plus secret funding by a corrupt party in the new republic
Star Trek: Creates warp bubble and bend space! Star Wars: Ready hyperdrive to reduce vessels mass and energy profile! Warhammer 40K: Tear a hole in reality and fly through space hell cant get more awesome then that!
Nice summary, but one of the most memorable Battle Barge engagements for me would be the one that saw a Salamanders Battle Barge enter Commorragh inside the Webway in order to rescue the Strike Cruiser Forgehammer, which had been lured there by Asdrubeal Vect in order to let the Astartes wipe out the Commmorragh ruling classes, enabling him to seize power once the ships escaped.
For anyone asking why 40k vs insert universe always end the same way, because that is 40k. Whenever another popular sci-fi verse ups the anty 40k says hold my beer. Star Wars has Jedi, 40k has Librarians; all the cool powers packed into a gene forged Superman wearing a tank. Mass effect has...actually I don’t know really. I mean the reapers would be a decent fight for the imperium but nothing new. Halo has...well the master chief is literally a discount marine. I hate to say it but reference spartan augmentation and train, it’s marine me without acidic spit. Star Trek has...red shirts so not really fair. You gotta go to the niche literary settings to beat40k, lensmen or the Civilization do it nicely, but those settings are basically gods.
@@iprobablyknowyou2713 Forerunners definitely fit into the niche category. Instead of waiting for the Flood to finish them off, the Forerunners decided to hard reset the galaxy, that's some god-tier capability right there. Now let's just hope the Flood and the Tyranids never mix together...
@@EMan-1920 Sweet Jesus, though I can’t tell who would eat each other first, actually the Flood would eat the Nids first, which makes this more horrifying.
"(His) narration style...", that would mean the calm british accent going over capabilities of ork space power, like an Imperial Navy intelligence officer not forbidden to be honest about the vast ranging capabilities of the enemies of mankind in comparison to their own.
Let us not forget the famed battle barges used by the Angry Marines chapter, the Litany of Litany's Litany and the MAXIMUM FUCK, stoically sacrificed in the fight against the ruinous forces of Chaos.
Considering even the most standard of their Warships are bigger than Star Destroyers, it is no contest. Worse, the ISD's have the same problem they'd have against Federation Starships. They have nothing to counter teleporting, and a single squad of Terminators would be enough to clear the ship of its crew.
I bet the tiny Space Battleship Yamato (Argo) could destroy these ships with it's Wave Motion Gun with a single salvo. Hell the SDF-1 could destroy whole fleets. 😜
Jacob Sailer And then we haven't even touched on how the GE Navy vessels would react to an encounter with the vessels of the Chaos Legions... Who needs interdictor cruisers when you can just "FIRE THE URSUS CLAWS!" and launch the Dreadclaw assault pods... along with a few select daemon summoning rituals...
Ummmm, ISD's DO have shields. If you go by legends canon ABSURDLY powerful ones. Hell the tiny ARC-170's have shields rated at 5x10^16 or 50,000,000,000,000,000 watts.
Personally, my favorite is the Despoiler followed by the Emperor class. That being said, the battle barge is still really cool with all the awesome things the Space Marines did with them.
For a 40k vs Star Wars scenario called 'Storm Troopers Nightmare'. Star Destroyer is crippled by a strange warship of matching size to their own. The emblem of a Black Maltese Cross on its prow. Numerous strange energy discharges are found throughout the ship. From out of these discharges emerge giants in black clad armor wielding strange ballistic pistols and swords with jagged teeth. Columns of Storm Troopers try to make a stand against the black clad giants, but somehow, they keep missing! Storm Troopers fall to their knees and weep in despair at the sheer futility of it all. The corridors of the Star Destroyer turn into a slaughterhouse. Halls and corridors are choked with blasted and dismembered bodies by the thousands as the crew desperately try to reach escape pods. The few survivors run from the sounds of screaming men, screaming chain blades, and exploding bodies hit by the ballistic weapons. The imperial officers who escape see the lights go out across the ship, windows are splattered in blood. They are thankful noise doesn't travel in space. Not a Black Templars fanboy, but face it, they are one of the most close combat focused chapters out there. And they are a 'Fleet Chapter'.
Charles Westfall now imagine a version of that scenario with The battleship commanded by Lotharra Sarin as it was during M31 just before the glorious conclusion of the Isstvan campaign, under the Astartes commander Kharn of the 8th legion... The World Eaters ;)
I, sadly, haven't gotten that far into the Horus Heresy series. The last one I read was Legion, and still missed a few in between. Would be interesting to see what Kharn was like before he went full on 'Deth Metal!'
See THIS is why no one, even other 40K fans like you fanboys. You never look up from your little 40K wankfest, and then shoot that diarrhea hole you call a mouth off, when it comes to dealing with VS scenarios against other IP's. knowing NOTHING about them You obviously know NOTHING about the SW EU ''Copied from another fellow commenter'' Remove all the hateful slang.
blackvial It is a copied comment but it serves its purpose, no? Its exactly what i would have wrote if i wasnt bored to shit with these fanboy comments
I'm assuming someone has mentioned it already but you made one mistake early on when you said it's the largest ship used by the Astartes. They do still have several Gloriana class vessels usually commanded by whichever chapter kept the original name and homeworld after the codex split.
Probably stretches the limits of your requirements, but I'd LOVE to see you cover the Arkbird from Ace Combat five. And maybe take some of the "suer fighters" like the X-02 Wyvrn, ADF-01 Falken, and CFA-44 Nosferatu over to Planetside.
1:21 - "countless" armoured vehicles. Given that the ship carries only three companies, you're probably looking at a couple of dozen armoured vehicles at most. This is only 'countless' if you are an ork.
You wildly underestimated the size of a battle barge. Some like the gloriana were 20 kilometers in length and others used by the primarchs were possibly larger.
No. These ships in this video are the REAL Battle Barges. "Battle Barge" however, has become nearly synonymous with the Space Marine flagship, and some Chapters have no real Battle Barge -class ship and use the biggest ship they have. Glorianna-Class is the largest mass-produced ship and easily dwarfs ANY Battle Barge, so a chapter having a Glorianna would definitely use it as their "Battle Barge". Navy Battleships have been used as "Battle Barges" before by other chapters.
The official designation of the gloriana is a command battle barge. I dont have an imperial armor book i can quote from but a quick google search lists an article on the lexicanum on the gloriana class. First sentence under overview lists the official designation of command battle barge. wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gloriana_Class_Battleship
Glorianas were personally commissioned by the Emperor for his Primarchs. One ship went to each Legion, though the two promised to the missing Primarchs weren't finished, I believe. They were about 20 km in length. There were only two larger Battle Barges built by the 'future' Dark Mechanicus, one for Horus (I believe) and one for Lorgar, these sitting at around 26 kms. One was confirmed obliterated and the other was listed as destroyed as well. Post heresy, especially in the 41st M, the remaining Pre-heresy 'battle barges' average around 12 km. Since knowledge of how to make them has been lost and/or destroyed, most 'battle barges' are large battleships around 8-10 km.
The ships you're referring to are the "Furious Abyss"-class. And to quote the following. Magnus: Lorgar, you had such a monstrous ship built, I must say you are a fool, you really think that just one ship can overcome Armatura? Lorgar: No my dear brother, I did not have one Built. *The Blessed Lady and the Trisagion warps in* Lorgar: I Built three of them. Also, the Vengeful Spirit was the Largest of the Gloriana class battleship, and as of today it's still Abaddon's flagship. (maybe Perturabo's Ship was larger, but no exact information remains) But so far the biggest ships ever built by the Imperium are - The Phalanx (which honestly is not a ship) - The Rock (Again not a ship in the proper name) And the Three Furious Abyss Class
If you're going to do more 40k, I recommend a Retribution-Class Battleship or a Space Marine Strike Cruiser next. Your videos are always better than reading off a wiki.
"Can you please do a video on different types of Dalek spacecraft from the worlds longest running Sci-fi TV series "Doctor Who?" Dalek Supreme: "OBEY THE DALEKS! OR YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!"
@@TruePacifist201 All Daleks: [chant echoing] "DALEK REIGN SUPREME!!! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!!! DALEKS REIGN SUPREME!!! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!!! DALEKS REIGN SUPREME!!! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!!!"
Space Marines use to have access to all ships of the imperium until Horus showed the wider imperium why that's a bad idea also every Primarch had a gloriana class battleship which has enough guns to make a super star destroyer blush
Do a Space Marine video sometime in the future. Most of non 40k fan mostly likely think Space Marine are just a normal human train to elite status and fight in space but the truth is *PURGING WITH MY KINNNNN
The best part is post heresy battlebarges were neutered after the horrors of the Warmaster's ambition. The Glorianas were truly the mastercrafted weapon
I just wonder how the craft can maintain position while firing its side cannons. No friction in space to brace your motion against, clearly using what appears to be reaction engines as the primary drive but no visible rcs thrusters in use, and, while flywheels can prevent spinning to a degree, they can't hold the ship in position from its own cannons' recoil.
Mass effect ships have no viable defense against energy weapons pretty much any sci fi universe could beat them in space combat and I'm including the reapers.
Do the Retribution or Victory battleship. And if you do, do not neglect the way shields work. As in, Battleships have 7+ shield layers, each regenerating independently and each capable of tanking insane amounts of firepower. Once overloaded, a shield simply collapses and regenerates, coming back on-line at full power. And while the time it takes for a layer to regenerate varies depending on ship and crew, it can be as little as 30 seconds - 1 minute. What this means in practical terms is that you break trough the 1st layer, then the 2nd, then the 3rd, only for the 1st to come back at full strength. This often makes battles between two battleship last forever (and also why games like Battlefleet Gothic didn't do it that way - it would be not be fun for the player) and why sustained apocalyptic-level firepower is required to actually breach trough all the shields fast enough to damage the hull. Insane, like 40K is.
Dark of technology ships are insane, imperium uncovered one with a massively intelligent ai that could fire a black hole across the solar system with guranteed accuracy and timing.
Problem with Star Wars that pound for pound, 40K has it beat in every category. It's not purely ship size - 40K ship are far tougher and more durable and have a stunning array of esoteric weapons. Star Wars can't deal with astartes teleport assaults (only void shield can block it, and SW doesn't have those). Or Vortex missiles? There is no "defending" against those, those missiles create a moving hole into hell itself.
A squad of SPARTAN IIs and/or IVs versus a single (or pair of) Space Marines with the Spartans carrying their heaviest weapons and having an idea the strength and capabilities of their opponents.
More info on Planetside available here. 40k fans can be assured that i'll be covering plenty of Warhammer tanks and armored vehicles on the show. :)
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I can see 40k, Halo and Star Wars, being the dominant players in Planetside. Lots to work with.
Thanks man no one ever talks about Warhammer ships
Do the Phalanx next.
Spacedock, have you considered a co Warhammer 40k production with ArchWarhammer? I could see some good vids being done there.
i have an idea for a vs fight, the imperial navy (30k/40k) Vs the Imperial fleet (star wars)
Imperial navy : "Uses copious amounts of guns n ships"
Eldar : "Hight tech fast hit and run ship combat"
Orks : "Throw stuff at it."
Space marines : "Throw marines at it and ignore the problem until they call for pickup."
"Astarties chapters only choose to engage enemy warships on favourable terms"
That's code for "they are in range for the boarding torpedoes", that's about as favourable as it ever gets for the Astarties.
Necrons: " I can't believe it's not magic"
@@cgi2002 ITS ASTARTES!
Why did u put in in quotes? looks disgusting for some reason
@@cgi2002 "Fly me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!" 😁
There's also this one ship in 40k called the Speranza.
A small bit of lore from it is that the Speranza was attacking an Eldar Craftworld. The Speranza fired what could be its killing blow but the Craftworld managed to escape the projectile's trajectory path. In response, the Speranza fired what is essentially a wayback beam onto the Craftworld, sending it back in time before it escaped the trajectory path.
The Speranza sent a planetoid-sized ship back in time so that it wouldn't miss.
Epic miles long Space Cathedrals with extinction level firepower, manned by tens of thousands of crew and slaves, many of whom will be born, live and die within a single ship, spending centuries and sometimes millenia traversing the hostile void.
40K is awesome.
All is great in service of the emperor
Only issue is that writers have no sense of scale. An 8,500 meter ship would have a mass measured in single-digit *gigatonnes*, require a crew in the hundreds of thousands even *with* extensive automation, and could fit entire hectares of vehicle bays without trouble. 3 companies? Try 3 *Legions*. No, seriously; most legions were around 100,000 Astartes; 300,000 of them, plus supplies, armored vehicles, maintenance and production facilities... All of that could still fit with plenty of room to spare.
It would make more sense if you integrated Astartes and Astra Militarum better though; Space Marines are great for shattering enemy strongpoints, but they are too valuable and don't have the numbers to invest any larger areas than a small city. A couple of companies is more than enough for all but the strongest opponents, and with one or two million Guardsmen in tow they could actually take and hold a populated world on their own. They would be spread thin, but that's what orbital superiority is for.
Doesn't keep it from being completely fucking awesome, of course.
AVE IMPERATOR!
Siathuan technically, all of the astartes ships, both pre and post the Horus Heresy are manned by non-marine human serfs, with tens of thousands in the crew of a battle barge. Also, the battle barges were built to be the self-sustaining base of operation of an entire chapter from a single legion, usually along with an auxiliary AdMech Titan formation and a number of army auxiliary regiments and all the repair and refit facilities to maintain all but the most complicated equipment.
As for legion sizes, you have blown that out of proportions. Afaik, only the Ultramarines were more than 100k marines strong pre heresy, Word Bearers at around 85k-90k, and the rest somewhere between 50k-70k while the Thousand sons as the runt of the legions at less than 40k marines prior to the atrocity at Prospero.
Also, the imperial truth is a lie.
Death to the false emperor!
I know that Astartes ships are crewed by serfs, I'm just saying that they could fit in a whole lot more - both Space Marines and equipment - in a ship as absurdly oversized as a battlebarge is.
... On second thought, it's actually a rather sane distribution. In lore - as opposed to gameplay (not counting Space Marine) - a company or three is more than enough for just about all purposes. Any more than that, and you'll be needing the additional battlebarges just to cement control over the orbitals.
Hm.
And a filthy heretic like you have no room to speak about the God-Emperor, but - it must be admitted - like all the best lies, your words hold a grain of truth: The Imperial Truth was a lie.
The Emperor tried to deny His own divinity, for He had Faith in humanity, to stand on our own. But then traitors, *like you*, proved that many are too weak to live without something to worship. And so, He again took on the burden of becoming our Idol, and so He still watches over us, and safeguards the weak and the foolish from the depredations of the Daemon and the Alien.
The sheer size of the Battle Barge probably stems from the time of the Great Crusade, when the Space Marines and the Imperial Army worked much closer together and therefore would need much more space inside to house both Marines and Imperial Army support forces. Then, after the Heresy happened and the Mechanicus decided that inventing things was now heresy, nobody was suicidal enough to try and get them changed.
*I am fortifying this position.*
Admiral Attila .....WHY!
Commander Attila, enemy forces in our perimeter.
you have done good
but leave this to a pro
then this position will be your grave, loyalist };D
THERE IS NO TIME TO BE LOHST !
BATTLEH BRUTHAS !
And few ships can withstand the efficiency of an Astartes boarding party. Unless they all roll a 1.
Well, that's still a total of 3 on the boarding action assuming no modifier for having more hull points remaining (and the other ship isn't crippled).
I'm guessing roll one was time when Astartes had this suicidal idea of using teleporters in boarding action. First choice is always thunder hawk dropship, or boarding torpedo. Teleporters in 40k are some what... iffy so those are used only in most direst need, against most fortified positions of enemy/most problematic enemy ships. Sure tech is there and it kinda work, but time to time one Astartes might get into destination, or get inside the rock, fused with it, or not might appear again. Expected casualties to Astartes company deploying this way are rather high and losing battle brothers like this before even enemy contact is pretty stupid.
Sure you could do that with sisters of battle.. just open the chamber door of teleporter, point inside and shout "HERETIC" and thsoe crazy bitches will run inside with out second thought.
Orcs use some what , possible usable teleporter tech, but expecting losses and worrying about such things are just for hummies and orcs have plenty where to spare. Orcs just trow enough shit in the wall that something will stick. Same thing with teleporters.
Lamenters: Can relate...
I 💩 on your dice
-Brother it appears my drop pod has malfunctioned.
-Y-yes, i am on an unplanned cruise.
-Yes, when you put it like that i have indeed flung myself into space.
-I do not appreciate your tone of voice brother now send a search party it's rather uncomfortable in here
At over Five miles long, some of those windows must serve multiple decks. Almost like a cathedral.
I wouldn't be surprised if most windows were just painted on for the cathedral look. After all, windows are inherent weak points in anything dealing with pressure differences. And multi-story high windows even more so.
@@Pystro Agreed, but don't ships of the Imperium use void shields? If so, I was thinking they could allow vast open areas exposed to space.
@@Pystro Funny that primarch Perturabo thought the same as you, so his flagship used to have no windows, only screens. But then at one battle, he couldn't hold the urge to see it himself thus he had to watch from an airlock.
After that he installed some windows onto the bridge.
Maybe they don’t cover multiple decks. Maybe they have…………wait for it……………cathedral ceilings.
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+SonsOfLorgar I did no such thing. You, my son, abandoned humanity to the pits of chaos.
I believe in you mein Omnissiah!
He has returned!
All hail!
My lord my Emperor
Personally I love the Gloriana-class of Battleship, made expressly for the Primarchs. Each one customized to the Primarch's personal combat style. The Conqueror was damned interesting, being heavily up-armored beyond what even a normal Gloriana would have, and equipped with Ursus Claws: building-sized retractable harpoon missiles attached to enormous chains that were launched at ships, burrowing deep into their hull before magnetizing and deploying grips, to draw the ship in closer so the Conqueror's short-range weapons could be used to utterly shred the ship. The Conqueror needed all that extra armor and weapons just to pull off that kind of attack, but they made it work. LoL Heck of a demotivator when you saw this huge battleship send tendrils out to snag your ship out of space.
Yup. And the White Scars had their Gloriana sent back to the Forge World to give it all the speed, on the direct orders of the Khan.
@@Elthenar And Corvus Corax had his (and his fleet) reworked so the Void shields inverted and acted as cloaking devices instead of protective barriers. Visually, and sensor-wise, the ships just ceased to exist about 99%. If you knew what to scan for or look for, you could catch trace of them (which is how the traitors kept trying to track them), but it was really easy to lose lock and contact.
"We are the reapers, riding the scything blades of mankind. They are but chaff, cut down by the Emperor's design. You wished to see what the Imperium of Man has to offer...look no further than these strike cruisers, and the men who command them."
-Sergeant Alnor Traske of the Black Templar to the rogue Prince Lannaer.
finaly. Imperium of Man ship I waited so long for this
Dude, his first video was an imperium ship.
The Emperor will be pleased.
I will.
I am.
AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR BATTLE-BROTHERS ARE STEHTIONED IN SPESS.
SPEHS MEHREEN
The biggest ships humanity has made in 30k--40k lore is the Gloriana-class Battleship. 19960 meters.
That, ladies and gentlemen. Makes it bigger than the Eclipse-class dreadnought from Star Wars, also known as Emperor Palpatine's personal flagship, which has a length of 17500 meters.
There were two Eclipse-class dreadnoughts.
The Imperium built 20 Gloriana-class Battleships.
*At least 20. The imperial navy also have some in their rare ship collections
Jordan actually the no two Gloriana class battleships are alike the biggest is MACRAGGS HONOR at 26 kilometers long while the vengeful spirit is only 20 kilometers long
Jordan ahh but legends has around 18 executor superstardestroyers built.
canon has around 13 built. cant forget about that fam
an executor is 19km long
plus the 2 eclipses they built in legends. in canon, palpatines secret flagship was also named the eclipse but we havent seen it yet. Its from the aftermath books and its the rumoured new super star destroyer that snoke has.
Which would make sense since the imperial remanants were sent by palpatines sentinel droids (the droids in red robes in the battlefront 2 trailer) to the unknown region. The imperials that were sent to the unknown regions found palpatines secret fleet and weapons at the coordinates they were sent to, including the canon version of the eclipse. Its why the first order has massive resurgance class isds and shit. Combine that with 30 years of development plus secret funding by a corrupt party in the new republic
Ah, I stand corrected then. Cheers!
not just that pretty much every imperial battle cruiser possibly has more fire-power then one deathstar it would be intreasting to see them fight
1:08 The Codex Astartes names this maneuver Steel Rain.
all warhammer 40k ships is too epic
When your fighting forces of thirsting Gods you got to build big.
Star Trek: Creates warp bubble and bend space!
Star Wars: Ready hyperdrive to reduce vessels mass and energy profile!
Warhammer 40K: Tear a hole in reality and fly through space hell
cant get more awesome then that!
I love they keep the aesthetic of the first ever warp-drive craft, the "Event Horizon"
Excellent use of the Dawn of War Soundtrack.
Gives me goose bumps every time!
"You know what our ship really needS? A CATHEDRAL!"
Well done! All your videos are so well researched and the narration is spot on in terms of "tone" for the various games/stories that they cover.
Nice summary, but one of the most memorable Battle Barge engagements for me would be the one that saw a Salamanders Battle Barge enter Commorragh inside the Webway in order to rescue the Strike Cruiser Forgehammer, which had been lured there by Asdrubeal Vect in order to let the Astartes wipe out the Commmorragh ruling classes, enabling him to seize power once the ships escaped.
Imagine if that Strike Cruiser crash landed on Coruscant during Episode I
All those Trillions purged by flame!
For anyone asking why 40k vs insert universe always end the same way, because that is 40k. Whenever another popular sci-fi verse ups the anty 40k says hold my beer.
Star Wars has Jedi, 40k has Librarians; all the cool powers packed into a gene forged Superman wearing a tank.
Mass effect has...actually I don’t know really. I mean the reapers would be a decent fight for the imperium but nothing new.
Halo has...well the master chief is literally a discount marine. I hate to say it but reference spartan augmentation and train, it’s marine me without acidic spit.
Star Trek has...red shirts so not really fair.
You gotta go to the niche literary settings to beat40k, lensmen or the Civilization do it nicely, but those settings are basically gods.
Prehistoric Halo might be able to beat the Warhammer 40k
@snykyninja the warp
@@iprobablyknowyou2713 There's a difference?
@@iprobablyknowyou2713 Forerunners definitely fit into the niche category. Instead of waiting for the Flood to finish them off, the Forerunners decided to hard reset the galaxy, that's some god-tier capability right there. Now let's just hope the Flood and the Tyranids never mix together...
@@EMan-1920 Sweet Jesus, though I can’t tell who would eat each other first, actually the Flood would eat the Nids first, which makes this more horrifying.
I would love to see how your narration style plays up to describing Ork starships.
Ulysses Grant He just starts shouting...grumbling and yelling things about DAKKA, CHOPPY, SPIKY TINGS and TELLYPORTA for over three minutes.
"(His) narration style...", that would mean the calm british accent going over capabilities of ork space power, like an Imperial Navy intelligence officer not forbidden to be honest about the vast ranging capabilities of the enemies of mankind in comparison to their own.
By the Emperor this was very well done, keep up the good work.
Really, when you think about it, the fact that the Imperium is still making these things even after the Heresy is pretty damn impressive.
I just love these cathedral looking battle ships!
Then you most certainly love 40K universe.
TheEmperorSRB maybe, I also love star wars.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I myself am quite a Sci Fi nerd.
Emperor be praised! Finally, a warhammer 40k video!
Let us not forget the famed battle barges used by the Angry Marines chapter, the Litany of Litany's Litany and the MAXIMUM FUCK, stoically sacrificed in the fight against the ruinous forces of Chaos.
Just found this channel by accident... You like 40k... SUBSCRIBED
*sees space wolf emblem*
For Russ and the all father!
Thank you !!!
Omnissiah bless!
Thanks for doing this video. Great work.
God I've been waiting for this, now I only half to wait for the battle barge vs executor class episode
The fight between SW and ST, has been irrelevant. These ships are the gods of space. Tanith first and only!
Considering even the most standard of their Warships are bigger than Star Destroyers, it is no contest. Worse, the ISD's have the same problem they'd have against Federation Starships. They have nothing to counter teleporting, and a single squad of Terminators would be enough to clear the ship of its crew.
I bet the tiny Space Battleship Yamato (Argo) could destroy these ships with it's Wave Motion Gun with a single salvo. Hell the SDF-1 could destroy whole fleets. 😜
No doubt. But never dismiss the power of Terminator Homers... or the wrath of their Storm Bolters.
Jacob Sailer And then we haven't even touched on how the GE Navy vessels would react to an encounter with the vessels of the Chaos Legions...
Who needs interdictor cruisers when you can just "FIRE THE URSUS CLAWS!" and launch the Dreadclaw assault pods... along with a few select daemon summoning rituals...
Ummmm, ISD's DO have shields. If you go by legends canon ABSURDLY powerful ones. Hell the tiny ARC-170's have shields rated at 5x10^16 or 50,000,000,000,000,000 watts.
Personally, my favorite is the Despoiler followed by the Emperor class. That being said, the battle barge is still really cool with all the awesome things the Space Marines did with them.
from the title, i actually looked forward to seeing a breakdown with explanations of the floorplans and the different sections of the ships.
Ooh, idea for a video!
Emperator class titans (40k), or 40k titans in general.
For a 40k vs Star Wars scenario called 'Storm Troopers Nightmare'. Star Destroyer is crippled by a strange warship of matching size to their own. The emblem of a Black Maltese Cross on its prow.
Numerous strange energy discharges are found throughout the ship. From out of these discharges emerge giants in black clad armor wielding strange ballistic pistols and swords with jagged teeth.
Columns of Storm Troopers try to make a stand against the black clad giants, but somehow, they keep missing! Storm Troopers
fall to their knees and weep in despair at the sheer futility of it all.
The corridors of the Star Destroyer turn into a slaughterhouse. Halls and corridors are choked with blasted and dismembered bodies by the thousands as the crew desperately try to reach escape pods. The few survivors run from the sounds of screaming men, screaming chain blades, and exploding bodies hit by the ballistic weapons.
The imperial officers who escape see the lights go out across the ship, windows are splattered in blood. They are thankful noise doesn't travel in space.
Not a Black Templars fanboy, but face it, they are one of the most close combat focused chapters out there. And they are a 'Fleet Chapter'.
Charles Westfall now imagine a version of that scenario with The battleship commanded by Lotharra Sarin as it was during M31 just before the glorious conclusion of the Isstvan campaign, under the Astartes commander Kharn of the 8th legion... The World Eaters ;)
I, sadly, haven't gotten that far into the Horus Heresy series. The last one I read was Legion, and still missed a few in between. Would be interesting to see what Kharn was like before he went full on 'Deth Metal!'
See THIS is why no one, even other 40K fans like you fanboys. You never look up from your little 40K wankfest, and then shoot that diarrhea hole you call a mouth off, when it comes to dealing with VS scenarios against other IP's. knowing NOTHING about them You obviously know NOTHING about the SW EU
''Copied from another fellow commenter''
Remove all the hateful slang.
Piroclanidis wow nice cooypasta, troll.
blackvial
It is a copied comment but it serves its purpose, no?
Its exactly what i would have wrote if i wasnt bored to shit with these fanboy comments
music gives me chills everytime.
EMPEROR PROTECTS
I'm assuming someone has mentioned it already but you made one mistake early on when you said it's the largest ship used by the Astartes. They do still have several Gloriana class vessels usually commanded by whichever chapter kept the original name and homeworld after the codex split.
Probably stretches the limits of your requirements, but I'd LOVE to see you cover the Arkbird from Ace Combat five. And maybe take some of the "suer fighters" like the X-02 Wyvrn, ADF-01 Falken, and CFA-44 Nosferatu over to Planetside.
Actually the largest ships they Imploy are Gloriana class Battleships
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only the rule of cool.
Have all of my likes. No enemy is beyond the Emperor's wrath
can you do a video about Ark Mechanicus?
Yes please!
These videos are top-notch would love an episode on strike Cruisers!
After-work hours, Pizza and a new Spacedock episode. Nice!
You did not mention how the front of the vessel is specially reinforced for ramming as well as how much the Astartes love their ramming...
and multi layered void sheilds, armour belts and layered reinforcements which mean they can ram, be rammed, and take incredible amounts of damage.
1:21 - "countless" armoured vehicles.
Given that the ship carries only three companies, you're probably looking at a couple of dozen armoured vehicles at most. This is only 'countless' if you are an ork.
I hated using my battlebarge in bfg. Loved making cruiser squadrons and doing boarding actions constantly due to superior maneuverability.
I do we'll see more 40k ship classes covered in the future
Successful teleport strike!
You wildly underestimated the size of a battle barge. Some like the gloriana were 20 kilometers in length and others used by the primarchs were possibly larger.
No. These ships in this video are the REAL Battle Barges. "Battle Barge" however, has become nearly synonymous with the Space Marine flagship, and some Chapters have no real Battle Barge -class ship and use the biggest ship they have. Glorianna-Class is the largest mass-produced ship and easily dwarfs ANY Battle Barge, so a chapter having a Glorianna would definitely use it as their "Battle Barge". Navy Battleships have been used as "Battle Barges" before by other chapters.
The official designation of the gloriana is a command battle barge. I dont have an imperial armor book i can quote from but a quick google search lists an article on the lexicanum on the gloriana class. First sentence under overview lists the official designation of command battle barge.
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gloriana_Class_Battleship
Glorianas were personally commissioned by the Emperor for his Primarchs. One ship went to each Legion, though the two promised to the missing Primarchs weren't finished, I believe. They were about 20 km in length. There were only two larger Battle Barges built by the 'future' Dark Mechanicus, one for Horus (I believe) and one for Lorgar, these sitting at around 26 kms. One was confirmed obliterated and the other was listed as destroyed as well.
Post heresy, especially in the 41st M, the remaining Pre-heresy 'battle barges' average around 12 km. Since knowledge of how to make them has been lost and/or destroyed, most 'battle barges' are large battleships around 8-10 km.
The ships you're referring to are the "Furious Abyss"-class.
And to quote the following.
Magnus: Lorgar, you had such a monstrous ship built, I must say you are a fool, you really think that just one ship can overcome Armatura?
Lorgar: No my dear brother, I did not have one Built.
*The Blessed Lady and the Trisagion warps in*
Lorgar: I Built three of them.
Also, the Vengeful Spirit was the Largest of the Gloriana class battleship, and as of today it's still Abaddon's flagship. (maybe Perturabo's Ship was larger, but no exact information remains)
But so far the biggest ships ever built by the Imperium are
- The Phalanx (which honestly is not a ship)
- The Rock (Again not a ship in the proper name)
And the Three Furious Abyss Class
Definitely one of my favorite videos on the channel...right after the ones for The Expanse.
What's this? A channel making videos on 40k ships? YES.
Nice video, I'd love to see more Warhammer 40k ship videos.
If you're going to do more 40k, I recommend a Retribution-Class Battleship or a Space Marine Strike Cruiser next. Your videos are always better than reading off a wiki.
"Can you please do a video on different types of Dalek spacecraft from the worlds longest running Sci-fi TV series "Doctor Who?"
Dalek Supreme: "OBEY THE DALEKS! OR YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!"
"THE DALEKS REIGN SUPREME! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!"
@@TruePacifist201 All Daleks: [chant echoing] "DALEK REIGN SUPREME!!! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!!! DALEKS REIGN SUPREME!!! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!!! DALEKS REIGN SUPREME!!! ALL HAIL THE DALEKS!!!"
By the Omnissiah... It's so beautiful...
still wish these videos were longer !
Space Marines use to have access to all ships of the imperium until Horus showed the wider imperium why that's a bad idea also every Primarch had a gloriana class battleship which has enough guns to make a super star destroyer blush
would love to see a Battle Barge go against an Imp SD. would be a glorious fight.
Nice shout out to the Astral Knights! :D
The Battle Barge deserved more than 3 minutes, you know this.
Do a Space Marine video sometime in the future. Most of non 40k fan mostly likely think Space Marine are just a normal human train to elite status and fight in space but the truth is
*PURGING WITH MY KINNNNN
The best part is post heresy battlebarges were neutered after the horrors of the Warmaster's ambition. The Glorianas were truly the mastercrafted weapon
I just wonder how the craft can maintain position while firing its side cannons. No friction in space to brace your motion against, clearly using what appears to be reaction engines as the primary drive but no visible rcs thrusters in use, and, while flywheels can prevent spinning to a degree, they can't hold the ship in position from its own cannons' recoil.
I suppose it's technically the second largest astartes ship...
the Phalanx is much larger, though i suppose that's only one chapter.
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Need more Warhammer ship reviews.
By far the most badass space traveling ship's exist in warhammer how can you not like space cathedrals of war
Thanks for the great content.
this was the first video of yours
i ever watched, love your series..
Gotta love the stuff from 40k beats the hell out of halo, star trek and star wars. >:3
Tali Sparta and disintigrates mass effect
Mass effect ships have no viable defense against energy weapons pretty much any sci fi universe could beat them in space combat and I'm including the reapers.
Ok Boomer
Yes! Finally! The Emperor is pleased!
The sheer epicness 😍
I would love more videos about ships in warhammer 40k
40k has great ship names.
Battlebarge ready!
Good god man, you have a voice for this...it's like watching the history channel or something!
Do the Retribution or Victory battleship. And if you do, do not neglect the way shields work. As in, Battleships have 7+ shield layers, each regenerating independently and each capable of tanking insane amounts of firepower. Once overloaded, a shield simply collapses and regenerates, coming back on-line at full power. And while the time it takes for a layer to regenerate varies depending on ship and crew, it can be as little as 30 seconds - 1 minute. What this means in practical terms is that you break trough the 1st layer, then the 2nd, then the 3rd, only for the 1st to come back at full strength. This often makes battles between two battleship last forever (and also why games like Battlefleet Gothic didn't do it that way - it would be not be fun for the player) and why sustained apocalyptic-level firepower is required to actually breach trough all the shields fast enough to damage the hull.
Insane, like 40K is.
*I borrowed this Battle Barge.*
Dark of technology ships are insane, imperium uncovered one with a massively intelligent ai that could fire a black hole across the solar system with guranteed accuracy and timing.
finally! great vid, does the holy instrument of the emperor's wrath proud
It's been 3 1/2 years. Lets hope some 40k videos in 2021
Problem with Star Wars that pound for pound, 40K has it beat in every category. It's not purely ship size - 40K ship are far tougher and more durable and have a stunning array of esoteric weapons. Star Wars can't deal with astartes teleport assaults (only void shield can block it, and SW doesn't have those). Or Vortex missiles? There is no "defending" against those, those missiles create a moving hole into hell itself.
Bit of an esoteric suggestion, but how about the Lightning-class Frontier Cruiser from the Traveller RPG?
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What are you, member of Adeptus Custodes?
Well, I DID kill a fly the other day....
how about the Cycnus from the black hole? an old film, but a classic from my youth
Please titan classes and knights next please :)
oooh!!!! this battlebarge Vs Imp star destroyer
40K is my favorite fictional universe.
You should do a series of video game ships such as the helghast ships from killzone
A squad of SPARTAN IIs and/or IVs versus a single (or pair of) Space Marines with the Spartans carrying their heaviest weapons and having an idea the strength and capabilities of their opponents.
Ah yes still a great video
Here's a question.. who is the (great) voice of Spacedock? Very great work by whoever!
Love me some 40k lore.
Reminds me that I need to return some ships to the Imperial Navy that I "borrowed".
Was hoping you'd do a full analysis and your thoughts on the design.