I love Shane’s stories…”we were in Pittsburgh, there was a potted plant next to the brown door and a lamp with a 60 watt light bulb that wasn’t too bright on the other side of the room. The floor had a few cracks that needed repaired, so then we went a wrestled a match.”
"Then the light bulb started flickering. So I'm standing there watching the lightbulb flicker, and I thought back to something Dominic DeNucci told me one time. We were at a show at the Armory in Charleston, West Virginia and Dominic pulled me aside and said, 'Kid, if you've got a light but no electricity, that light ain't turning on!' And that's when Jim Herd told me I was working Jim Cornette in a Loser Eats Dogfood Match. I was so pissed I picked up Jim Herd's rented Subaru and threw it through the window of the arena. Then I went out to the ring and told the crowd to kiss my ass. That was my last night in WCW."
I find it ironic how every wrestler/talent that talks about "The Kilq" may have different varying stories. But the bottom line is the conclusion is ALWAYS the same. They "politically" controlled that WWF/E locker room during their time there. And buried A LOT of guys along the way. Such a shame that Vince fell into that trap and allowed that too happen. I do believe Shane is telling the truth about all of this. It's quite an infamous interaction that most know about in the business. But this is what happens when you got the boss of a company wrapped around your middle finger. Everyone else is walking on proverbial eggshells. What a terrible time that must have been too work for the WWF/E.
Right? And you just know there were guys that probably wanted to kill them, but then again hoped to god that they would be accepted by them and liked. It really was a high school equivalent
It's impossible that Shane Douglas just wasn't good? The fact that he only ever got over in a bingo hall where they stabbed each other is pretty much an indication of his "greatness"
I used to think Shane Douglas was lame and the Kliq was cool. Now i realize those clique guys are legit evil and Share Douglas is genuinely funny as heck.
@@Ghostfacekevon japan has horrible ‘angles’. They aren’t even angles, the same ppl go over each & every time. Mexico & PRico had way more intriguing angles. Also, Portland, Stampede, GCW, Memphis, etc etc etc. All had superior angles to WWF/WWWF
@@bustersales6921 dude you comment on every comment, you have way too much time on your hands. trying going outside for once, or getting a job or some friends. the internet isnt real life. when was the last time you seen the sun?
@@Ghostfacekevon WWF copied most of their angles, Japanese promotuons ussually didn't have great angkes but had great matches. The whole attitude era was basiccally started from WWF and WCW copyting ECW.
He's talked about that in other shoots....said it was very much heat still between him and Hall but they tried to work....said Nash was fine and never had any issues with him and they were friends.
Nash & Douglas were in the same clique in dubya see dubya early 90s. Nash, Douglas, Roma, Austin, raven, and a few others were part of a locker rm clique headed up by Orndorff & Rude. In 1999-end of dubya see dubya, hall was barely around
I think Shane is being 100% honest with this story. He doesn't seem to be bitter about Scott anymore. He went out of his way to say good things about Scott and lamented that Scott died way too soon but also gave his opinion on Scott. Scott was a very troubled guy a lot of times. It's been well documented. Very good interview.
in his own mind. they didnt screw bam bam. Shane only screwed himself in WWF, it wasnt the Kliq. if fucking Yoko is tired of your shit, i think you're the problem
@@curthennig9448 Two different times, he's talking about in 1996 when Scott drug failed before Mania 12 he showed up backstage. He made an appearance later on November of 2000 and made a ring appearance post his WCW contract.
@@marmcd2003 Are you sure about this? I'm a little confused. So you are saying that the incident Shane is describing is from early 1996 after Hall was suspended for a weed violation? I don't think ECW was even in PPV mode in 1996.
@@curthennig9448 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ECW_supercards_and_pay-per-view_events ECW was running super cards since 1993, the first PPV was Barely Legal 1997 but Shane may be mis remembering. When Shane says this was a few months after he was let go from WWF in 1995 that this happened this is the only time it could have happened as Hall was in WWF until 5/1996 and started making WCW appearances in 6/1996 he would have only had some free time around his suspension in early 1996.
"I FORBID you from touching him! We have a pay per view coming up, if you touch him you'll be arrested and you'll miss it." "What if he swings at me first?" "Take him out."
I think Paul just didn't want the heat from WWF. He knew full well nobody was gonna call the cops lmao. Not even Scott himself would have called the cops, I bet. Wrestlers back then didn't snitch when shit like that happened. Not saying they should or shouldn't have. But just saying snitching really didn't happen much. At least not over backstage fighting.
Love the Franchise. He's so real, he's always been one of my favorites. Back in ECW everyone loved Taz, Sabu, RVD but the Frachise was the real soul of ECW. 🙏
wrong, tommy dreamer, Francine and new jack is the heart and soul of ECW. Taz, Sabu, RVD, Lance Storm, Dawn Marie, Mikey Whipwreck, Jazz, Beulah, balls Mahoney, rhino, Sabu, the Dudley family, raven, Shane Douglas, sandman, Justin credible and more is responsible for putting (ECW) company on their backs and for putting it on the map. but there would never be an ecw without tommy dreamer, Francine and new jack.
I met Shane at a Kmart in East Rochester, PA. He’s from that area, I’m from Beaver Falls. Anyways…went up and asked him for an autograph. This was in 1996. My two favorite wrestlers of all time are Bret Hart and Scott Hall. When I told him that, he went on a tirade about how Scott Hall was a “big druggie” and a big dope head. This was before the internet. Come to find out, that he was right. Broke my heart hearing that about one of your heroes. But, leave it to guy from the Pittsburgh-area to tell you how shit really is. 😂
Yeah me too... loved Scott. Great wrestler, especially for a big guy. But he had ALOT of issues. But hey, so have I. N that's without the money n fame. I would have been dead years ago.
IWC loves to call Hart bitter, but if you watch any Hall interview, all he does is complain and put everybody down. He does it in an entertaining way sometimes, but man, the guy WAS a malcontent.
That’s why I never bought into his sobriety. True recovering addicts have a humility about them and Hall would always talk about his past exploits with a little too much relish.
Scott hall the human is garbage, it's a shame he's awful. My problem with him is that he is so attached to money that he will look down on someone that isn't money hungry in a way that he is and I also really dislike that he would look down on a pro wrestler for loving it and having stuff on the wall, when I think of this stuff I think of bret hart. Hall had a problem with bret having so much passion and with the fact that bret didn't want more money when they were both in wwe, to be more specific hall thinks bret is a mark cause he saw that bret's house has pictures of him on the wall and was talking about how he would call bret the 500k champ or something in a shoot interview and I now remember how he said or suggested that a fan should suck bret's chicken because the fan was defending bret in regards to to not being obsessed with money, not wanting more. I will only think of hall as a good pro wrestler overall and a piece of garbage as a human, even if hall didn't kill a guy in self defense he would still be a piece of crap imo. Hall being nasty towards the fan I mentioned happened on social media, twitter. I know because I read about it.
Scott was a talented worker but I've watched enough of his interviews and seen him just bemoan everyone trying to justify the exploits of the Kliq. It always annoyed me cause I've heard SO many guys over the years talk about what the Kliq did. And I believe them cause the story's are always generally the same. I don't wanna speak ill of the dead, but Scott definitely seemed like he liked to complain.
Wonder how Scott treated Shane, Bam-Bam and Candido when they all went to WCW in the late 90s - I get he was missing a lot Bam-Bam was in a couple of Triple Threat Matches with Scott and Goldberg Never noticed any problems/heat
umm yea because thats how professionals act in the ring. You know how many of these guys have beef with each other without you ever noticing it in the ring? When wrestlers get in the ring, they give the other man their body to do moves on. You HAVE to be able to trust that NO MATTER WHAT, that guy will not hurt you on purpose.
I truly believe all of this is in Douglas's mind. Hall spoke on this incident as well. They asked him to leave so he did. That was the whole story and that's what I believe. Shane Douglas beating Scott Hall's ass? I don't see that in the least. I have never heard a single wrestler ever say "Oh that Shane Douglas was the real deal. He's cleaned out a few bars before" Not once have I ever heard Douglas mentioned in a real fight by anyone other than Douglas himself. Scott Hall? Come at him with a gun and you end up getting pimp slapped and shot with your own gun.
@@Fektthis Bam-Bam has been known to tell tall tales. But there's a Bam-Bam shoot on here where he talks about it too. Says that he told Scott he didn't have a problem with him but Shane was going to kick his a$$ and that's when Shane confronted him. Bam-Bam goes on to bury The Kliq, state ECW is up and coming and the Triple Threat is a threat to the nWo. Made him look incredibly foolish being he wound up in WCW working with Scott - just like Candido and Shane eventually would.
Justin Credible was real good friends with the Kliq so makes sense he was the on who invited Hall. Kind fucked up to "punk" Hall out of the building when he had his son with him, as if he was suppose to start throwing down with the ECW lockerroom with his son there.
Scott Hall was living in Cape Canaveral at the time and was getting in trouble a lot- getting kicked out of all the Strip Clubs in Cocoa Beach. One of my friends in High School followed Scott home from the gym and he had a little house on the beach on Madison Ave with a sign that said "Hall's by the Sea". We were all big ECW fans and went to the show at the Kissimmee Agricultural Center which was just a big barn with a bunch of bleachers. This was around the time when Al Snow's Head gimmick was popular. Taz and Bam Bam fought outside on people's cars. Candido was extremely high during his match. The next day at school we all heard how Scott was kicked out of the show early that day. We would see Scott around town but didn't mark out because he was always with his kids when we saw him. I still have the Fan Cam from that show. The small building was packed and it wasn't as popuar, so everyone was a die hard fan there. EDIT: Scott Hall was invited by Justin Credible to come to the event, Scott didn't just show up to cause heat.
@@dariog36th He killed a guy as a bouncer and had lifelong PTSD as a result. Hall never struck me as the kind of gut interested in throwing down for real backstage, and that may be why.
everyone has a bunch of obnoxious stories about how they got back at the Kliq. Scott showed up in good faith and the ECW locker room decided to be babies about it. This wasn't WWE or even WCW. Scott was invited, so as a courtesy he showed up. He didn't need, he didn't have to, and he gained nothing from it.
He formed a pretty good tag team with Ricky Steamboat in WCW in the early 90’s. They had some success. His other WCW run was pretty forgettable, even though he won a few titles.
He is essentially a career ‘what if?’. Had a ton of hype as a hot young prospect in the late 80s/early 90s, alongside guys like the Steiners, Pillman, etc, but unlike Scott Steiner & Pillman, never lived up to a single shred of it. He was always overrated tho, and clearly has mentaI issues
He was a heat magnet to epic portions. He was a great worker pulling off great matches compared to the other promotions even though he was injury prone but still kept going. He could cut a promo just as good as anyone in wrestling and work just as good as anyone in wrestling. Had they let Shane be the Franchise in wwf with total creative control in wwf and wcw, he would have been money. Heyman let Shane be Shane and he knocked it out the park as a heel that even HHH ripped off his Franchise gimmick as The Game in wwf. Shane was the leader and at the forefront of this new style of ECW that changed the business. Had the WWF/WCW been more edgier, he would have been a god in the Attitude Era or in WCW. They truly missed out on him. He is owed.
I know Shane is in line because Shane isn't a liar ! But mostly because he's not the first person to say Scott said one thing and then wine later, that was his personality I know a lot of people like that. Also it's exactly what Road Dogg said that he was just always whining and he didn't like that whining tone. But as we know Scott had a lot of interpersonal demons, hell for that matter everybody in the click did with the exception of Kevin Nash. And not for nothing the politics got Kevin & Scott into a better position than they would have been without it look at where they all started.
I still remember when shane grabbed pitbull by the halo and started whippin him back n forth... i thought that crowd was going to kill shane! That had to be the most heat i ever seen a wrestler get!! franchise as the heel in ecw was easily a 11 out of 10... shame politics and the cilq killed his wwe run
My question would have been, you seem very confident that you would have beat him up. Did you not think Scott was tough at all? Were you not afraid to fight him at all?
Everybody has a fake story about getting back at the kliq. Nobody got back at them lets be honest. This is just how they make themselves feel better about all the bullying
I think this incident took place in early 1999. Certainly wasn't months after Shane left the WWF like he claims in the beginning of this interview. Your radar should go up about whether Shane is giving an accurate version of the way this went down. Francine's version is a little different as was Scott Hall's.
It's 1998, Shane's timeline is off here because Chris Candido was still in WWF up until September 96, PJ Polaco (Aldo Montoya/Justin Credible) was still there until 97 and while Tammy was with WWF until mid 98, she was doing stuff with ECW while signed since mid-97. ECW had 4 house shows in Kissimmee, FL that year and according to his old Hannibal interview, it was "2 weeks before a PPV" so that would put it in either February 8th (before Living Dangerously) or April 11th (before Wrestlepalooza 98 which was a PPV that year). Everything else matches what he previously said on the Forever Hardcore DVD from 2005 (it was on the extras disc, not on the main documentary that's online) and as for Scott in 2000, if there was any beef with him and Francine over it, they squashed it when he came in (according to her in one of her old shoot interviews, I forget if it was the RF Video DVD or the Ring of Honor one that Gabe Sapolsky hosted).
Scott's whole issues stemmed from him getting drunk at a bar and some guy picking a fight with him, leading to an accidental homicide. If you're an actual murderer, that kind of thing would affect you at all. What Scott needed was counselling, but obviously, in the 80s and 90s, particularly in America, that wasn't available, particularly to wrestlers. Everyone's supposed to be a tough guy and seeing a shrink or a therapist would be bad for your reputation. So Scott suffered in silence and it led to his substance abuse and bad behaviour. You don't make good judgment calls when you're smashed, obviously, whether for yourself or others.
Unfortunately, that’s very true. Then when the help was available, before 2010 it wasn’t considered socially acceptable for a man to seek help with their mental health, a man was supposed to appear emotionless and provide for others, no questions asked. The moment weakness was showed in anyway, society would often go into a feeding frenzy bashing the guy. Men were actively discouraged from seeking any help with their mental health. It was consider “tough”. It was ridiculous. But unfortunately the case. Help wasn’t readily available (especially to entertainers of any kind) and when it was men (in particular) were discouraged from seeking it.
@@HighFalutinTootinyeah, dude came in jealous, looking for a fight, wouldn’t back down and Hall did what he had to do. Sadly his brain ate him alive after than.
Having trauma like that is a bitch to have, it really is. But it’s our responsibility as adults to get through it without letting it destroy us and those around us. Scott Hall was a great wrestler but a very sucky human being. Using trauma from killing someone as an excuse to be a bad person later on really made him more enemies than friends. Him and the kliq, to make a long dtory short, ruined a lot of careers and ruined their own reputations forever. Michaels, Nash, Hall, Hunter got away so much and to this people hate them.
@@puertoriconnect4611yeah? Hall being a prick is irrelevant…..he took his kid to watch a wrestling show. There’s nothing badass about throwing your weight around, when someone isn’t starting crap & literally has a child with them.
Couldn't have been months after because he said before it was Credible who brought Hall backstage. Douglas went back to ECW in January 1996 and Credible didn't join ECW until August 1997. The ppv where he dropped the belt to Taz he's referring to was Guilty as Charged '99 which was in Kissimmee so his timeline is waaaay off. He also never mentions that he punked out Scott right in front of his like 6 or 7 year old kid Cody which is pretty fucked up.
but is there anyone you can throw far enough to make an asinine statement like "i don't trust him as far as i can throw him dar dar dar" seem legit? 🙄🤔😒🤣
I like Shane but cmon man. You let Scott get the first shot off your in deep shit. And I’m sure you lifted his chin up and told him to look you in the eyes. Smh
Still to this day I wish scott had strayed straight bcuz he could've been so influential and maybe been a mentor to the guys cuz like him or not he had a great mind for the business I'm glad he changed it all around back to bein the baddest guy in the room ...
Divide and conquer. The Klique had no power as individuals, barring Shawn for his work ability. Separate them and they crumble. Also, weirdly enough, all the members of the Klique seemed to come across as the coolest guys ever when they weren’t around each other. Sean Waltman is incredibly likable to me, and Kevin’s surprisingly cool. But in a group it changes. It’s almost like when they have the protection of their little wolf pack (see what I did there?) they literally turn into wolves and try to destroy anyone they can
Wrestling is like that, especially in the mid 90's and money wasn't good, there will always be more tension. Once they had the Austin/Rock boom, notice there was a lot less strife when the whole card is doing well.
Who was gonna throw him out? Because I don’t think those guys wanted that smoke. He had a few fights in the locker room but New Jack was those guys friend
Idk if I believe some of the dialog, nor Scott putting his head down. Scott did come out and say that he left w/o confrontation. That being said, idk if Shane gifted him a bottle of wine out of irony or because he was sorry it happened
Yeah buy an alcoholic more Alcohol Shane 😂, you still got your way with him without physically touching him physically, mentally the alcohol did the hitting
A prime Scott Hall would have probably beat a prime Shane Douglas in a fight, quite a bit bigger and probably quite a bit stronger. Shane Douglas was being a tough guy because he had 3 or 4 of his friends. I wonder if he would have been so brave if Kevin Nash had of been there with Scott Hall..
Being bigger and stronger doesn't really mean much in an actual fight. It can definitely help though. I've been in several fights and honestly it's the guys that are my size or smaller that I have had trouble with. The big strong guys are just bigger and slower targets
@@horncrownedproductions9675 My response of no chance in hell is in regards to Shane's tactics(bravado) if Nash would have been by Hall's side during this suppossed confrontation. I agree though that Hall being bigger doesn't necessarily mean an automatic win in a fight with Troy Martin.
To be fair Scott Hall killed a guy in self defense. He was a smart ass, but almost never went physical the nasty boys fucked him up with a chair and he didn't retaliate.
Some people will take what I'm about to say but what mess Scott hall was the beer I don't know if he drank hard liquor but both will mess up your life some people think drinking is good but ia not who am I to judge what others wan to put inside their body I'm just speaking from experience I was an alcoholic it destroyed my life until now I'm still recovering day by day I'm better now but all that beer and hard liquor gave me depression anxiety and panic attacks and some of us drink because of a girl or who knows why but in my opinion don't drink because of an ex who left you more like don't even touch a beer or hard liquor at all I made a promise to never drink to get better for me it sucks to be unhealthy now I need to get my life together last year I started doing exercise eating healthy thing that i should've start sooner I need ro go get my State id and my driver's license I'm starting at new people don't drink or smoke it will make your life a living hell i know 😩
Rest In Peace Scott hall. True legend in the business. Shane is still bitching about WWF. He was there three times. He changes his story about why it didn't last. He might be a good guy but he's overrated. Hall , god rest his soul, would have beat him down
It’s funny how guys who couldn’t get over in the big promotions always have that one tough guy story against the Kliq. I wonder if this guy because Scott use to view him as a buddy didn’t kick his ass because one time when he got in a fight the guy ended up dead. Maybe Shane should think about reality over wrestling gimmicks. Lol if he lives in a world where he wins that fight it’s not called reality.
5:13 No way in hell this dude put his hands on Scott Hall, telling him "look me in the eye when I'm talking to you." Absolutely zero chance this happened. He more than likely did have harsh words with Scott, but not that. Shane Douglas never drew a dime in comparison to all the people he bashes constantly. He looks back on his career and is full of regret, because he did have some potential but never lived up to any of it - even remotely. Dude is a liar and embellishes so much because he feels so bad about how his career played out. Now he has to play pretend trying to make himself feel better about being walked on everywhere he went and being a huge letdown in all 3 major wrestling companies at the time
Yeah but he can talk shit on dead people for days. I enjoy his Ric Flair is no man bit because Franchise is actually too midcard and always was for someone like Nature Boy to think about seriously.
Stupidity of it is if Hall could have functionally worked, he was pretty much discarded by Vince's various apparatus by then, and even if he wasn't fully, that would have been useful star power to ecw by that point. It's not they needed him for creative, but in tv presence that could have been help. Likely Hall was zombie in wwf and he was either too far gone to be mad at, or they could have built him up.
@johnkolko5199 Nah buddy even back then he was also not drunk or washed he was there with his son. These mid card bums with no personality were just butt hurt a real star was there. Francine even admitted she was wrong.
Shane would have gotten his ass kicked by Scott Hall what hall say I got friends I’m here to make Money period !!! Rest In Peace Scott hall bet he made more money than the ECW KID lol. Only reason people watch ECW BECAUSE OF THE LADIES OF ECW
Are you referring to a different story because this particular story has been told well before hall died. So is your comment just ignorant or are you actually referring to a completely different story? 🙄🤦🤡
I have a lot of respect for Shane but one thing I will say it's funny how stories come out about someone after they have passed away that was never brought up when that person was around I'm not saying one way or another the story is true cuz I wasn't there I'm just saying it's funny how these stories come up when someone's gone
I believe Shane's story here and he has pretty much said the same before. However I think the timeline is off because he said it happened in 95 shortly after Shane left WWF but Hall was still in WWF in 95 and all the guys he mentioned Bigelow, Candido, and Justin Credible weren't all in ECW together at that time. Sounds more like this was late 90s.
@@rosemaryfarell5264 well I know gorgeous a fact I went to one ppv in Kissimmee in Jan or Feb 1999...unless they had one in 1998? Not a ecw fan really ....went with some friends.
@@rosemaryfarell5264 I used to wrestle fir 15 years on indies .....97 I started. I did a tour of Dominican republic 5 times. One trip hall was with us. He roughed up a local drug dealer type scrawny guy at a restersaunr like at midnight. The guy went to get his friends and said he ll kill scott! So my partner and I grabbed him and helped him walk down street to out hotel because he was so pilled up! We had him by the arms holding him up looking over our shoulders ! Hoping nobody came after us. Got to hang with him in one of the locker rooms just me and him as well as just us two at breakfast even. He told stories and he was cool ...sober anyways. Even walked into a brothel with him across street from our hotel! Ha ha....nobody bought ...just bored as we walked around and madam gave us the prices and rundown! Lol. Ahh....memories!
This wasn’t Shane bringing the boys to back him up it was the locker room telling Hall he wasn’t welcome. This was a show of solidarity. The people Scott fukked with had enough How could you take it any other way
Hey, God rest his soul 🙏!!! Razor was a legitimate bad ass!!! That is a fact, by the way!! Scott would have beat 90 percent of the wrestling world up in a real fight!!! Scott was a great wrestler, but don't get it wrong, Scott Hall would whip the shit out 90 percent of them, literally!!!
This piece of shit, is definitely lying!!! Scott was a legitimate bad ass, and anyone would back him up on that!!! This guy is a scumbag, and if Scott Hall would have swung on your bitch ass, lights out!!!!!!!!
I love Shane’s stories…”we were in Pittsburgh, there was a potted plant next to the brown door and a lamp with a 60 watt light bulb that wasn’t too bright on the other side of the room. The floor had a few cracks that needed repaired, so then we went a wrestled a match.”
"Then the light bulb started flickering. So I'm standing there watching the lightbulb flicker, and I thought back to something Dominic DeNucci told me one time. We were at a show at the Armory in Charleston, West Virginia and Dominic pulled me aside and said, 'Kid, if you've got a light but no electricity, that light ain't turning on!' And that's when Jim Herd told me I was working Jim Cornette in a Loser Eats Dogfood Match. I was so pissed I picked up Jim Herd's rented Subaru and threw it through the window of the arena. Then I went out to the ring and told the crowd to kiss my ass. That was my last night in WCW."
😂😂😂
I find it ironic how every wrestler/talent that talks about "The Kilq" may have different varying stories. But the bottom line is the conclusion is ALWAYS the same. They "politically" controlled that WWF/E locker room during their time there. And buried A LOT of guys along the way. Such a shame that Vince fell into that trap and allowed that too happen. I do believe Shane is telling the truth about all of this. It's quite an infamous interaction that most know about in the business. But this is what happens when you got the boss of a company wrapped around your middle finger. Everyone else is walking on proverbial eggshells. What a terrible time that must have been too work for the WWF/E.
Right? And you just know there were guys that probably wanted to kill them, but then again hoped to god that they would be accepted by them and liked. It really was a high school equivalent
Don't hate the playa hate the game just because they were better at it than everyone else.😂.
You like so many have that group all wrong lot of those wrestlers you think they buried was not that good and never was going to be top guys.
@@jeremyroe5997yet vader was champion in other promotions around the world.
It's impossible that Shane Douglas just wasn't good? The fact that he only ever got over in a bingo hall where they stabbed each other is pretty much an indication of his "greatness"
I used to think Shane Douglas was lame and the Kliq was cool. Now i realize those clique guys are legit evil and Share Douglas is genuinely funny as heck.
Rip Scott Hall.
I agree with shane about ecw angles.they had the best angles of any wrestling promotion i ever watched
yep, next to WCW, WWF and NJPW, AJPW etc...
@@Ghostfacekevon japan has horrible ‘angles’. They aren’t even angles, the same ppl go over each & every time. Mexico & PRico had way more intriguing angles. Also, Portland, Stampede, GCW, Memphis, etc etc etc. All had superior angles to WWF/WWWF
@@bustersales6921 dude you comment on every comment, you have way too much time on your hands. trying going outside for once, or getting a job or some friends. the internet isnt real life. when was the last time you seen the sun?
@@nonebutchrist5136 ....are you special needs..?
@@Ghostfacekevon WWF copied most of their angles, Japanese promotuons ussually didn't have great angkes but had great matches. The whole attitude era was basiccally started from WWF and WCW copyting ECW.
I met Shane at Wrestling Universe, he’s actually a good guy and I got to 🤳 with him Francine, and Sandman
Did you win?
I saw him at Wrestling Universe in 2016 too. Had a great talk with the Franchise!
If you ever have him on again I'd love to know how Hall and Nash treated Shane when he went back to WCW in 99
He's talked about that in other shoots....said it was very much heat still between him and Hall but they tried to work....said Nash was fine and never had any issues with him and they were friends.
@@jst1 thanks
Nash & Douglas were in the same clique in dubya see dubya early 90s. Nash, Douglas, Roma, Austin, raven, and a few others were part of a locker rm clique headed up by Orndorff & Rude. In 1999-end of dubya see dubya, hall was barely around
Shane has said he never really had problems with Nash, it was mostly Shawn and Scott he had heat with.
That was Shanes problem ...
He has heat with McMahon, Flair & the Cliq.
Based on that you got no chance in the buisiness
I think Shane is being 100% honest with this story. He doesn't seem to be bitter about Scott anymore. He went out of his way to say good things about Scott and lamented that Scott died way too soon but also gave his opinion on Scott. Scott was a very troubled guy a lot of times. It's been well documented. Very good interview.
what!! He is always bitter
in his own mind. they didnt screw bam bam. Shane only screwed himself in WWF, it wasnt the Kliq. if fucking Yoko is tired of your shit, i think you're the problem
@@Ghostfacekevon and mixes a lot of half truth in his stories
@@Ghostfacekevon said the bitter hater in the comments section. 🤣🤣🤣
No , Bret Hart is bitter. Shane I think just has a skewed view of the way things were/his "legacy"
I remember watching Scott Hall show up in ECW, never heard about the backstage stuff. Glad to hear this interview about it.
Not sure Shane's version is totally accurate as others have told a different version of Scott visiting the ECW backstage area.
@@curthennig9448 Two different times, he's talking about in 1996 when Scott drug failed before Mania 12 he showed up backstage. He made an appearance later on November of 2000 and made a ring appearance post his WCW contract.
@@marmcd2003 Are you sure about this? I'm a little confused. So you are saying that the incident Shane is describing is from early 1996 after Hall was suspended for a weed violation? I don't think ECW was even in PPV mode in 1996.
@@curthennig9448 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ECW_supercards_and_pay-per-view_events
ECW was running super cards since 1993, the first PPV was Barely Legal 1997 but Shane may be mis remembering. When Shane says this was a few months after he was let go from WWF in 1995 that this happened this is the only time it could have happened as Hall was in WWF until 5/1996 and started making WCW appearances in 6/1996 he would have only had some free time around his suspension in early 1996.
@@curthennig9448really? I heard bam
Bam tell the same story
"I FORBID you from touching him! We have a pay per view coming up, if you touch him you'll be arrested and you'll miss it."
"What if he swings at me first?"
"Take him out."
I think Paul just didn't want the heat from WWF. He knew full well nobody was gonna call the cops lmao. Not even Scott himself would have called the cops, I bet. Wrestlers back then didn't snitch when shit like that happened.
Not saying they should or shouldn't have. But just saying snitching really didn't happen much. At least not over backstage fighting.
Shane is keeping it real and telling the truth
The Franchise is highly underrated!
All credit to the Franchise here, but I’d be a tough guy too if I knew Bam Bam Bigelow was backing me up 😂
It's not Shane's fault that everybody wanted a piece of Scott.
Have you ever watched Bam Bams MMA fight? He got his ass kicked.
Love the Franchise. He's so real, he's always been one of my favorites. Back in ECW everyone loved Taz, Sabu, RVD but the Frachise was the real soul of ECW. 🙏
Never drew a dime
As much as I loved the franchise I think that Tommy Dreamer was the soul of the company since he never left.
There were multiple souls of ECW. Franchise was certainly one of them. Dreamer, Raven, Dudleys also come to mind.
Plus the sandman
wrong, tommy dreamer, Francine and new jack is the heart and soul of ECW. Taz, Sabu, RVD, Lance Storm, Dawn Marie, Mikey Whipwreck, Jazz, Beulah, balls Mahoney, rhino, Sabu, the Dudley family, raven, Shane Douglas, sandman, Justin credible and more is responsible for putting (ECW) company on their backs and for putting it on the map.
but there would never be an ecw without tommy dreamer, Francine and new jack.
I met Shane at a Kmart in East Rochester, PA. He’s from that area, I’m from Beaver Falls. Anyways…went up and asked him for an autograph. This was in 1996.
My two favorite wrestlers of all time are Bret Hart and Scott Hall. When I told him that, he went on a tirade about how Scott Hall was a “big druggie” and a big dope head. This was before the internet. Come to find out, that he was right. Broke my heart hearing that about one of your heroes. But, leave it to guy from the Pittsburgh-area to tell you how shit really is. 😂
Scott Hall is damn near on my Rushmore of favorite wrestlers. But I believe every word of this
Yeah me too... loved Scott. Great wrestler, especially for a big guy. But he had ALOT of issues. But hey, so have I. N that's without the money n fame. I would have been dead years ago.
IWC loves to call Hart bitter, but if you watch any Hall interview, all he does is complain and put everybody down. He does it in an entertaining way sometimes, but man, the guy WAS a malcontent.
"Yeah I like to fuck with guys and stir the pot". I remember Scott saying this in a shoot right before playing innocent about all the heat he had
That’s why I never bought into his sobriety. True recovering addicts have a humility about them and Hall would always talk about his past exploits with a little too much relish.
In Bret's book, he says Hall used to complain so much that the boys would call him "Razor The Moan."
Scott hall the human is garbage, it's a shame he's awful. My problem with him is that he is so attached to money that he will look down on someone that isn't money hungry in a way that he is and I also really dislike that he would look down on a pro wrestler for loving
it and having stuff on the wall, when I think of this stuff I think of bret hart. Hall had a problem with bret having so much passion
and with the fact that bret didn't want more money when they were both in wwe, to be more specific hall thinks bret is a mark cause he saw that bret's house has pictures of him on the wall and was talking about how he would call bret the 500k champ or something in a shoot interview and I now remember how he said or suggested that a fan should suck bret's chicken because the fan was defending bret in regards to to not being obsessed with money, not wanting more. I will only think of hall as a good pro wrestler overall and a piece of garbage as a human, even if hall didn't kill a guy in self defense he would still be a piece of crap imo. Hall being nasty towards the fan I mentioned happened on social media, twitter. I know because I read about it.
Scott was a talented worker but I've watched enough of his interviews and seen him just bemoan everyone trying to justify the exploits of the Kliq. It always annoyed me cause I've heard SO many guys over the years talk about what the Kliq did. And I believe them cause the story's are always generally the same. I don't wanna speak ill of the dead, but Scott definitely seemed like he liked to complain.
Wonder how Scott treated Shane, Bam-Bam and Candido when they all went to WCW in the late 90s - I get he was missing a lot
Bam-Bam was in a couple of Triple Threat Matches with Scott and Goldberg
Never noticed any problems/heat
umm yea because thats how professionals act in the ring. You know how many of these guys have beef with each other without you ever noticing it in the ring? When wrestlers get in the ring, they give the other man their body to do moves on. You HAVE to be able to trust that NO MATTER WHAT, that guy will not hurt you on purpose.
@@morrnmanderson7376 You mean like how Andre acted with Bam-Bam in MSG?
Ok. Got it.
I truly believe all of this is in Douglas's mind.
Hall spoke on this incident as well. They asked him to leave so he did. That was the whole story and that's what I believe.
Shane Douglas beating Scott Hall's ass? I don't see that in the least.
I have never heard a single wrestler ever say "Oh that Shane Douglas was the real deal. He's cleaned out a few bars before" Not once have I ever heard Douglas mentioned in a real fight by anyone other than Douglas himself.
Scott Hall? Come at him with a gun and you end up getting pimp slapped and shot with your own gun.
@@Fektthis Bam-Bam has been known to tell tall tales. But there's a Bam-Bam shoot on here where he talks about it too. Says that he told Scott he didn't have a problem with him but Shane was going to kick his a$$ and that's when Shane confronted him. Bam-Bam goes on to bury The Kliq, state ECW is up and coming and the Triple Threat is a threat to the nWo. Made him look incredibly foolish being he wound up in WCW working with Scott - just like Candido and Shane eventually would.
100 percent respect for this man
Yeah sure sounds good don't it? Almost like a wrestling angle
Scott Hall was behind Enemy Lines that day
Should of asked Shane what the atmosphere was like for him, Bam Bam etc in WCW following this with a lot of them all being together again.
Never cared for him as a performer but he certainly seems like a genuinely good guy.
But ya liked Triple H? He stole Shane Douglas "The Franchise" gimmick..... "The Game" was a watered-down version of that gimmick. Fact.
Shane carried a sledgehammer?
The Franchise > HHH
Never heard the full story before. Good stuff.
Good for Shane, anyone who messes with a sweetheart like Tracy Smothers isnt a very nice person.
I am loving the Shane Douglas segments!!!
Can't wait to hear Kevin Nash to mention this on his podcast if asked.
Can't exactly trust Nash's take on things. He spins it just like the rest of em.
@@curthennig9448 The business is built on lies and deception so no surprises there.
You can always trust Nash to have a glass of wine
Great work as usual my dude
Justin Credible was real good friends with the Kliq so makes sense he was the on who invited Hall. Kind fucked up to "punk" Hall out of the building when he had his son with him, as if he was suppose to start throwing down with the ECW lockerroom with his son there.
Scott Hall was living in Cape Canaveral at the time and was getting in trouble a lot- getting kicked out of all the Strip Clubs in Cocoa Beach. One of my friends in High School followed Scott home from the gym and he had a little house on the beach on Madison Ave with a sign that said "Hall's by the Sea". We were all big ECW fans and went to the show at the Kissimmee Agricultural Center which was just a big barn with a bunch of bleachers. This was around the time when Al Snow's Head gimmick was popular. Taz and Bam Bam fought outside on people's cars. Candido was extremely high during his match. The next day at school we all heard how Scott was kicked out of the show early that day. We would see Scott around town but didn't mark out because he was always with his kids when we saw him. I still have the Fan Cam from that show. The small building was packed and it wasn't as popuar, so everyone was a die hard fan there.
EDIT: Scott Hall was invited by Justin Credible to come to the event, Scott didn't just show up to cause heat.
Shane isn't a Goldberg or Bret Hart level mark, but he's definitelya top 10.
Shane ain’t kicking Scott halls ass, be real
Yeah Scott was an actual bar bouncer before being wrestler so Scott could actually fight.
@@dariog36th He killed a guy as a bouncer and had lifelong PTSD as a result. Hall never struck me as the kind of gut interested in throwing down for real backstage, and that may be why.
Yeah for real. Shane's a tough guy but he wasn't about to punk Scott out
@@Echothrax I wonder about that myself.
@@Echothrax facts in a real fight Scott would’ve beat Shane within an inch of his life
Shane is a good bloke much respect, he is looking good great interview. Thanks.
James, are you planning on doing any more shoots with Douglas, and if so, how can we submit questions?
Scott probably left on his own .
Scott would have whooped his ass 😂
Lmaooo I said the same thing. Scott would’ve beat the brakes off that man
Bigelow was there
@@inutero10 boy stop
@@inutero10 you didn’t stop
@@troy4904 black cocks matter
There’s an interview with Scott about this and he made it sound like they whined about him being there and he just left
everyone has a bunch of obnoxious stories about how they got back at the Kliq. Scott showed up in good faith and the ECW locker room decided to be babies about it. This wasn't WWE or even WCW. Scott was invited, so as a courtesy he showed up. He didn't need, he didn't have to, and he gained nothing from it.
Did Shane ever do anything outside of ECW?
He seems like a fairly honest guy, but he always seem like B player to me.
He formed a pretty good tag team with Ricky Steamboat in WCW in the early 90’s. They had some success. His other WCW run was pretty forgettable, even though he won a few titles.
He is essentially a career ‘what if?’. Had a ton of hype as a hot young prospect in the late 80s/early 90s, alongside guys like the Steiners, Pillman, etc, but unlike Scott Steiner & Pillman, never lived up to a single shred of it. He was always overrated tho, and clearly has mentaI issues
Douglas' angry Franchise gimmick was perfect for ECW, but didn't really fit in anywhere else.
the dean in Wwf wcw 4horsemen short run
He was a heat magnet to epic portions. He was a great worker pulling off great matches compared to the other promotions even though he was injury prone but still kept going. He could cut a promo just as good as anyone in wrestling and work just as good as anyone in wrestling. Had they let Shane be the Franchise in wwf with total creative control in wwf and wcw, he would have been money. Heyman let Shane be Shane and he knocked it out the park as a heel that even HHH ripped off his Franchise gimmick as The Game in wwf. Shane was the leader and at the forefront of this new style of ECW that changed the business. Had the WWF/WCW been more edgier, he would have been a god in the Attitude Era or in WCW. They truly missed out on him. He is owed.
Tracy smoothers could have handled his own with anyone
Tracy Smothers was a man
..based on what..?
@@bustersales6921 he was known for shoving penises into sink drains
except any legitimate shooter in the wrestling business
@@jrh4196 who told you that
I know Shane is in line because Shane isn't a liar !
But mostly because he's not the first person to say Scott said one thing and then wine later, that was his personality I know a lot of people like that. Also it's exactly what Road Dogg said that he was just always whining and he didn't like that whining tone.
But as we know Scott had a lot of interpersonal demons, hell for that matter everybody in the click did with the exception of Kevin Nash.
And not for nothing the politics got Kevin & Scott into a better position than they would have been without it look at where they all started.
Pretty amazing with all the shoot interviews he had done this is the first time this story came out
Story has been around for years. I've heard Shane tell this years ago. Shane is very honest.
You’ve been living under a rock, son; Douglas has been telling this story for years.
I still remember when shane grabbed pitbull by the halo and started whippin him back n forth... i thought that crowd was going to kill shane! That had to be the most heat i ever seen a wrestler get!! franchise as the heel in ecw was easily a 11 out of 10...
shame politics and the cilq killed his wwe run
My question would have been, you seem very confident that you would have beat him up. Did you not think Scott was tough at all? Were you not afraid to fight him at all?
might be fact was out of shape alcoholic scott hall
Everybody has a fake story about getting back at the kliq. Nobody got back at them lets be honest. This is just how they make themselves feel better about all the bullying
I have never been able to look at Shawn and his boys the same after everything that came out about their behavior.
....? How big of a mark are you...? 😳 🎯 🤤 🥴
@@bustersales6921 just as big as you are
@@nonebutchrist5136 wut..?
You’re a mark, embrace it
Same
Didn't francine tell a different version of this event?
yes
what month and year did this happen? I heard Scott Hall coming to ECW near the end in 2000 but Shane was in WCW then.
I think this incident took place in early 1999. Certainly wasn't months after Shane left the WWF like he claims in the beginning of this interview. Your radar should go up about whether Shane is giving an accurate version of the way this went down. Francine's version is a little different as was Scott Hall's.
Shane has told this story several times. His words never change. He is brutally honest.
It's 1998, Shane's timeline is off here because Chris Candido was still in WWF up until September 96, PJ Polaco (Aldo Montoya/Justin Credible) was still there until 97 and while Tammy was with WWF until mid 98, she was doing stuff with ECW while signed since mid-97.
ECW had 4 house shows in Kissimmee, FL that year and according to his old Hannibal interview, it was "2 weeks before a PPV" so that would put it in either February 8th (before Living Dangerously) or April 11th (before Wrestlepalooza 98 which was a PPV that year).
Everything else matches what he previously said on the Forever Hardcore DVD from 2005 (it was on the extras disc, not on the main documentary that's online) and as for Scott in 2000, if there was any beef with him and Francine over it, they squashed it when he came in (according to her in one of her old shoot interviews, I forget if it was the RF Video DVD or the Ring of Honor one that Gabe Sapolsky hosted).
wow man,the franchise is so tough!scott hall had no idea what he was getting himself into......
Scott's whole issues stemmed from him getting drunk at a bar and some guy picking a fight with him, leading to an accidental homicide. If you're an actual murderer, that kind of thing would affect you at all. What Scott needed was counselling, but obviously, in the 80s and 90s, particularly in America, that wasn't available, particularly to wrestlers. Everyone's supposed to be a tough guy and seeing a shrink or a therapist would be bad for your reputation. So Scott suffered in silence and it led to his substance abuse and bad behaviour. You don't make good judgment calls when you're smashed, obviously, whether for yourself or others.
No actually it was an angry boyfriend of a girl that worked at the same strip club where Scott Hall was bartending at
Unfortunately, that’s very true. Then when the help was available, before 2010 it wasn’t considered socially acceptable for a man to seek help with their mental health, a man was supposed to appear emotionless and provide for others, no questions asked. The moment weakness was showed in anyway, society would often go into a feeding frenzy bashing the guy. Men were actively discouraged from seeking any help with their mental health. It was consider “tough”. It was ridiculous. But unfortunately the case. Help wasn’t readily available (especially to entertainers of any kind) and when it was men (in particular) were discouraged from seeking it.
@@HighFalutinTootinyeah, dude came in jealous, looking for a fight, wouldn’t back down and Hall did what he had to do. Sadly his brain ate him alive after than.
Having trauma like that is a bitch to have, it really is. But it’s our responsibility as adults to get through it without letting it destroy us and those around us. Scott Hall was a great wrestler but a very sucky human being. Using trauma from killing someone as an excuse to be a bad person later on really made him more enemies than friends. Him and the kliq, to make a long dtory short, ruined a lot of careers and ruined their own reputations forever. Michaels, Nash, Hall, Hunter got away so much and to this people hate them.
I love that saying "the steak on the plate"
4 vs 1 and Scott had his son with him.... This story doesn't do them any favors
Yeah I'm sure this was right in front of his son. Moron
Scott was a huge prick to a lot of people then went to the place where a lot of them were and they’re all gonna do nothing when they see him?
@@puertoriconnect4611yeah? Hall being a prick is irrelevant…..he took his kid to watch a wrestling show. There’s nothing badass about throwing your weight around, when someone isn’t starting crap & literally has a child with them.
Scott Hall was one of the best of all-time. He had everything.
Yup.
Hall is a god.
Except for self control
RIP Chico
there's no such thing is "the best of all-time." and scott is mid card at best.
Couldn't have been months after because he said before it was Credible who brought Hall backstage. Douglas went back to ECW in January 1996 and Credible didn't join ECW until August 1997. The ppv where he dropped the belt to Taz he's referring to was Guilty as Charged '99 which was in Kissimmee so his timeline is waaaay off. He also never mentions that he punked out Scott right in front of his like 6 or 7 year old kid Cody which is pretty fucked up.
Hearing this I feel sorry for Shane. He did his best to be a Twitter troll and Scott didn't take the bait and just walked off.
Lmao you can tell when a guy is making things up 😂😂😂
I trust Shane Douglas about as far as I can throw him.
lol for real
@HH no, but Douglas is clearly a nut. Has always been a nut. Who didn’t this guy have heat with...?
@HH Not really!
but is there anyone you can throw far enough to make an asinine statement like "i don't trust him as far as i can throw him dar dar dar" seem legit? 🙄🤔😒🤣
I like Shane but cmon man. You let Scott get the first shot off your in deep shit. And I’m sure you lifted his chin up and told him to look you in the eyes. Smh
"grr it's everyone else's fault I didn't make it grr" - every Dean Douglas interview ever
Still to this day I wish scott had strayed straight bcuz he could've been so influential and maybe been a mentor to the guys cuz like him or not he had a great mind for the business I'm glad he changed it all around back to bein the baddest guy in the room ...
Scott Hall's version is much different than what the Legend Douglas says here.
Scott Hall wouldve thrown oit Shane Douglas if he was still alive,
Divide and conquer. The Klique had no power as individuals, barring Shawn for his work ability. Separate them and they crumble.
Also, weirdly enough, all the members of the Klique seemed to come across as the coolest guys ever when they weren’t around each other. Sean Waltman is incredibly likable to me, and Kevin’s surprisingly cool. But in a group it changes. It’s almost like when they have the protection of their little wolf pack (see what I did there?) they literally turn into wolves and try to destroy anyone they can
Wrestling is like that, especially in the mid 90's and money wasn't good, there will always be more tension. Once they had the Austin/Rock boom, notice there was a lot less strife when the whole card is doing well.
It's kliq limp dik
There was wrestlers more deserving to be thrown out of the ECW locker room and ECW altogether. New Jack is one that comes to mind.
Who was gonna throw him out? Because I don’t think those guys wanted that smoke. He had a few fights in the locker room but New Jack was those guys friend
New Jack never drew a dime
@@thesupervisor3270 Plus, New Jack was over with Heyman....not likely you're going to throw out a guy the owner/promoter likes.
New Jack tried to kill another wrestler in the ring
When Shane talks he always looks like he chasing around a fly with his eyes ...those darting eyes are little freaky lol
Man, everyone says Chris Candido was a super nice guy so for him to be like, F U Scott, says a lot
Shane left WWF in late 95/early 96 and he dropped the ECW Title to Taz in January 1999...
~ GREAT SHIRT!!!!
Idk if I believe some of the dialog, nor Scott putting his head down. Scott did come out and say that he left w/o confrontation. That being said, idk if Shane gifted him a bottle of wine out of irony or because he was sorry it happened
Yeah buy an alcoholic more Alcohol Shane 😂, you still got your way with him without physically touching him physically, mentally the alcohol did the hitting
A prime Scott Hall would have probably beat a prime Shane Douglas in a fight, quite a bit bigger and probably quite a bit stronger. Shane Douglas was being a tough guy because he had 3 or 4 of his friends. I wonder if he would have been so brave if Kevin Nash had of been there with Scott Hall..
NO CHANCE in hell!
Being bigger and stronger doesn't really mean much in an actual fight. It can definitely help though. I've been in several fights and honestly it's the guys that are my size or smaller that I have had trouble with. The big strong guys are just bigger and slower targets
@@horncrownedproductions9675 My response of no chance in hell is in regards to Shane's tactics(bravado) if Nash would have been by Hall's side during this suppossed confrontation. I agree though that Hall being bigger doesn't necessarily mean an automatic win in a fight with Troy Martin.
This story totally happened lol
Soo many of these stories that go back n forth. Never know whose telling the truth.
To be fair Scott Hall killed a guy in self defense. He was a smart ass, but almost never went physical the nasty boys fucked him up with a chair and he didn't retaliate.
If a toothpick fell out of Scott's mouth this guy would be the first one to pick it up and put it in his pocket
Some people will take what I'm about to say but what mess Scott hall was the beer I don't know if he drank hard liquor but both will mess up your life some people think drinking is good but ia not who am I to judge what others wan to put inside their body I'm just speaking from experience I was an alcoholic it destroyed my life until now I'm still recovering day by day I'm better now but all that beer and hard liquor gave me depression anxiety and panic attacks and some of us drink because of a girl or who knows why but in my opinion don't drink because of an ex who left you more like don't even touch a beer or hard liquor at all I made a promise to never drink to get better for me it sucks to be unhealthy now I need to get my life together last year I started doing exercise eating healthy thing that i should've start sooner I need ro go get my State id and my driver's license I'm starting at new people don't drink or smoke it will make your life a living hell i know 😩
I think Scott will whip Shane if it came to that
Rest In Peace Scott hall. True legend in the business. Shane is still bitching about WWF. He was there three times. He changes his story about why it didn't last. He might be a good guy but he's overrated. Hall , god rest his soul, would have beat him down
U got heat with lotta guys seams like.
Scott Hall killed a man in a bar fight in real life...Shane Douglas by himself would've been in trouble and he knows it!💯
He shot a man with a gun.
It’s funny how guys who couldn’t get over in the big promotions always have that one tough guy story against the Kliq. I wonder if this guy because Scott use to view him as a buddy didn’t kick his ass because one time when he got in a fight the guy ended up dead. Maybe Shane should think about reality over wrestling gimmicks. Lol if he lives in a world where he wins that fight it’s not called reality.
Like the franchise but Hall would've destroyed him.
Damn right
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nWo 4 Life
Just 2 SweeeeeT!
Idk man. At that time Scott was really wacked out on drugs and alcohol at this time.
Consider home turf advantage.
And backup crew.
Scott would’ve pissed himself and fell over
@@nomnomnommy2955 not back then
5:13 No way in hell this dude put his hands on Scott Hall, telling him "look me in the eye when I'm talking to you." Absolutely zero chance this happened. He more than likely did have harsh words with Scott, but not that. Shane Douglas never drew a dime in comparison to all the people he bashes constantly. He looks back on his career and is full of regret, because he did have some potential but never lived up to any of it - even remotely. Dude is a liar and embellishes so much because he feels so bad about how his career played out. Now he has to play pretend trying to make himself feel better about being walked on everywhere he went and being a huge letdown in all 3 major wrestling companies at the time
Yeah but he can talk shit on dead people for days.
I enjoy his Ric Flair is no man bit because Franchise is actually too midcard and always was for someone like Nature Boy to think about seriously.
WWF missed out on Shane. He could have been the Franchise In WWF and would have had a huge feud with Bret Hart !
Stupidity of it is if Hall could have functionally worked, he was pretty much discarded by Vince's various apparatus by then, and even if he wasn't fully, that would have been useful star power to ecw by that point. It's not they needed him for creative, but in tv presence that could have been help. Likely Hall was zombie in wwf and he was either too far gone to be mad at, or they could have built him up.
Hall would destroy Shane. No question
not at that point, Hall was pretty much a junkie. A healthy Hall no doubt could demolish Douglas. Probably make him humble.
@johnkolko5199 Nah buddy even back then he was also not drunk or washed he was there with his son. These mid card bums with no personality were just butt hurt a real star was there. Francine even admitted she was wrong.
I like Shane's oratory but Scott was money and there have been plenty of people that have poked holes in Shane's stories before
Shane would have gotten his ass kicked by Scott Hall what hall say I got friends I’m here to make
Money period !!! Rest In Peace Scott hall bet he made more money than the ECW KID lol. Only reason people watch ECW BECAUSE OF THE LADIES OF ECW
Amazing coming out with this crap once Scott had past.
Are you referring to a different story because this particular story has been told well before hall died. So is your comment just ignorant or are you actually referring to a completely different story? 🙄🤦🤡
Scott hall would've destroyed the franchise
I have a lot of respect for Shane but one thing I will say it's funny how stories come out about someone after they have passed away that was never brought up when that person was around I'm not saying one way or another the story is true cuz I wasn't there I'm just saying it's funny how these stories come up when someone's gone
That may be but he's talked about this well before hall passed too. So is your statement in regards to something else??? 😂🤣
I believe Shane's story here and he has pretty much said the same before. However I think the timeline is off because he said it happened in 95 shortly after Shane left WWF but Hall was still in WWF in 95 and all the guys he mentioned Bigelow, Candido, and Justin Credible weren't all in ECW together at that time. Sounds more like this was late 90s.
Yeah...99. I was at the ppv. Guilty as charged I think it was ? Not a big ecw fan....but yeah Kissimmee 1999.
Yeah, after he left WCW.
It was the late 90s. About 98 I think
@@rosemaryfarell5264 well I know gorgeous a fact I went to one ppv in Kissimmee in Jan or Feb 1999...unless they had one in 1998? Not a ecw fan really ....went with some friends.
@@rosemaryfarell5264 I used to wrestle fir 15 years on indies .....97 I started. I did a tour of Dominican republic 5 times. One trip hall was with us. He roughed up a local drug dealer type scrawny guy at a restersaunr like at midnight. The guy went to get his friends and said he ll kill scott! So my partner and I grabbed him and helped him walk down street to out hotel because he was so pilled up! We had him by the arms holding him up looking over our shoulders ! Hoping nobody came after us. Got to hang with him in one of the locker rooms just me and him as well as just us two at breakfast even. He told stories and he was cool ...sober anyways. Even walked into a brothel with him across street from our hotel! Ha ha....nobody bought ...just bored as we walked around and madam gave us the prices and rundown! Lol. Ahh....memories!
Scott Hall R.I.P
Razor would have sent that boy to heaven in a fist fight lets be real
No question lmao
@Losah Tattletales facts he was not tough when cracked out
Nobody messes with Scott Hall when he's drunk. This man is huge, strong, tall wrestler.
If we are being REAL , Razor, yes, Scott Hall...I love'em, but no he would have had his ass handed too him, Shane Dogulas was a REAL shooter...
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Keeping it SteelCity...1000%
At that time Scott Hall was in a bad way I wonder if he would say it to a young healthy Scott Hall when he had the name BIG
The French Fries' proudest and most talked about career achievement!
He doesn’t seem like he’s trying to put himself over by telling this story.
At least he has a career 🤣
@@rmcdudmk212 barely
@@rizeorfall this guy is deranged/troubled. His shoots are all bizarre rambling
@@bustersales6921 stay triggered zippy 🤣🤣🤣
Lets not forget scott was completely strung out on drugs at this point
Scott Hall had his kid with him and shane douglas had to bring out an entire locker room to confront one guy with his kid.
didnt the qilk gang up on people?
Yeah because the Cliq never did that people. Halls big thing was I will get Nash after you .
This wasn’t Shane bringing the boys to back him up it was the locker room telling Hall he wasn’t welcome. This was a show of solidarity. The people Scott fukked with had enough
How could you take it any other way
Hey, God rest his soul 🙏!!! Razor was a legitimate bad ass!!! That is a fact, by the way!! Scott would have beat 90 percent of the wrestling world up in a real fight!!! Scott was a great wrestler, but don't get it wrong, Scott Hall would whip the shit out 90 percent of them, literally!!!
This piece of shit, is definitely lying!!! Scott was a legitimate bad ass, and anyone would back him up on that!!! This guy is a scumbag, and if Scott Hall would have swung on your bitch ass, lights out!!!!!!!!
Shane’s story……Yeah. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. There’s a farm animal somewhere with diarrhea
My Mount Rushmore Scott Hall Razor Ramon Diesel Kevin Nash
Always a Franchise fan but didnt Scott have his kid with him? I feel this is mainly why it went this way.
100% I doubt it even lasted that long dude is definitely lying.