Glad you understood the parody of Hollywood. I think this is RDJ's greatest role as a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude. Tidbit, if you listen tot he DVD commentary, RDJ does it as Lincoln Osiris through the WHOLE commentary until the credits role and then he switches to Kirk Lazarus to say thanks for watching lol. The level of commitment is hilarious. If you want another war movie laugh, check out Jojo Rabbit.
I haven't seen any of those movies, but I'll add them to my list. I'll definitely have to rewatch Tropic Thunder once I do! Thanks for watching and for your comment! 💛
Every time Ben Stiller comes back across the bridge with his 'son', Little Half Squat, stabbing him repeatedly I grin until it hurts. Then, when he chucks him spinning off the bridge, I can't stop laughing. Not usually a fan of physical comedy😁. Hear you on the culture stuff. I think that the movie mocks that a white guy got the lead black man part instead of just doing it, like how Blazing Saddles mocks the bigotry by showing how absurd it is. Great reaction! 👍
Thank you so much Mars Falcon! I'm with you on that Little Half Squat scene! I was laughing so hard while editing! 😂 Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it! 💛
I think this is probably my favourite comedy, at least in the 21st century and possibly ever. Some people had an issue with the inclusion of Robert Downey Jr. as Kirk Lazarus after a "pigmentation alteration procedure" that is canonically why he is able to play the black Lincoln Osiris, but honestly, this conceit is not meant to be denigrating black people, but Kirk Lazarus himself, and the Hollywood apparatus that allowed this to happen (and used to allow it to happen for real). That neither sees anything wrong with this is the point, and they have a real black man there to be the voice of the audience (the voice of reason), against the bizarre excesses of the film industry. I also think it's funny how Lazarus can so easily identify why decisions like this aren't just wrong, but artistically flawed, with respect to Tugg Speedman's _Simple Jack_ character (an albeit cruder imitation), but is so immersed in his own ego that he can't see the problem when it's with him. People say that a movie like this couldn't be made today, and I think they're right, but for the wrong reasons. It's not the blackface or the profligate use of the r-word or any other "offensive" property of the film, but the fact that this is a mid-budget ($92 million in 2007, which is ~$134 million today) original comedy, and studios have become allergic to risk. Any departure from something that worked in the past is heavily scrutinized. Instead, most of the expensive (mid- and big-budget) movies that get green-lit are the ones that studios know have a built-in audience, derived from things like popular novels, video games, and previous films (for which the new addition is either a sequel, a prequel, or an addition to an entire cinematic universe)...or they're remakes of films for which the movie-going public has nostalgia. *Every single top-10 grossing film of 2022 fell into one of those categories. EVERY ONE.* Unproven original content goes to the streaming services nowadays (although they also have plenty of properties with built-in audiences too), and rarely is it as well-funded as a film. The other reason a film like this would have a hard time getting made in 2023 is that it relies on a fairly intimate knowledge of American cultural references, and so much of Hollywood's money today is being made from the growing (and massive) Chinese audience, who just won't understand most of them.* In order to comprehend the real story this film is telling, one has to be familiar with things like the historical context of blackface in American films, and the major tropes of classic American war movies like _Platoon_ and _Apocalypse Now_ - if you didn't grow up in this culture and experience (even passively, without realizing it) the references, you might walk away from the theatre believing that you'd just seen a mediocre, serious, war movie. Even the fake trailers would make no sense to a non-Western audience, people who probably haven't heard of _Nutty Professor II: The Klumps_ (which is what _The Fatties: Fart 2_ is parodying), who won't recognize the traits of a so-called Oscar bait film (even the title would be meaningless to many foreign audiences - _Satan's Alley_ ...I wonder what body part that could be referring to?** )...and for whom _Scorcher VI: Global Meltdown_ would probably be entirely believable as a film (though they might wonder why they'd never heard of parts I thru V). *Humour is not **_culturally-neutral:_* parody and satire don't work when the audience isn't aware that they're watching parody and satire. So shelling out all of this money for a film that can only succeed in English-speaking countries (and possibly other parts of Europe which are familiar with American culture) would be out of the question. It's just too big a risk to spend all that money on a product you cannot sell to your most important customer. *They also have to self-censor A LOT to ensure a film will even be able to PLAY in Chinese theatres. **I died a bit when they claimed it won the Beijing Film Festival's "Crying Monkey Award."
Thank you for this explanation and comment! I personally missed a lot of the references, since I've always been more of a TV watcher than a movie watcher, but I thoroughly enjoyed this film. Laughed my butt off. I can't wait to rewatch it in a few years once I've seen some of the referenced work. Thank you again for your comment and for watching! 💛
Well, I don't know if the conversation between Tugg and Kirk actually intends to make fun of mentally or physically challenged people. In my perspective, the conversation between Tugg and Kirk clearly explains how Hollywood movies always portray mentally challenged characters in such a way that their disability is not too extreme that the able-bodied audience doesn't find them repulsive. Such characters can still exude positivity and provide wholesome feeling for the able-bodied audience. They are always potrayed as innocent magical souls and often conform to the beauty standards. The best example is Forrest Gump. His disability is neither gross nor too extreme for him to be successful in life even though he mostly got lucky. He is handsome, has a respectable family heritage, is financially sound and has a loving mom who goes to any extent for her son. But, the problem is Hollywood movies always fail to portray characters with extreme mental disabilities who are not blessed with a good family, resources, looks, opportunities or even luck. Well, it's mainly because able-bodied people may find such characters too depressing, aesthetically unappealing or even worse, outrightly repulsive. Audience may not even find anything to relate to such characters. That's the primary reason why we often get to see characters like Forrest Gump in cinema but seldom characters like "Simple Jack". I think this is what Kirk meant when he said "never go full r*tard". I strongly think this single line alone is in itself a satirical dig at the Hollywood's recurring trope of mentally challenged people whose disabilities are not too extreme that they still turn their lives around and are epitomes of innocence and optimism. Of course, it's understandable why people find the use of the "r word" over and over in this particular conversation off-putting or objectionable because the same "r word" has been used since ages as an insult by being completely unsympathetic to the mentally challenged people. They are still seen as outcasts in many parts of the world. But, I think instead of seeing this movie conversation as an insult to a particular group of people, we should focus on how this conversation cleverly exposes Hollywood's age old depiction of mentally challenged people only in a way that is acceptable to the able-bodied audience. Much love ❤.....
I love how you refer to Al Pacino as "the other Black man" and not "an actual Black man." Shows how good of an actor RDJ is. In an interview RDJ was asked why he took the role. He didn't say to destroy barriers or create discussion. He said "I got to be Black for a summer."
The film will never get old for me :) Not as funny after the 5000th time, but it's always fun to watch :) Saw when I was still in the army (no at the cinema *ahemahem*). We laughed so hard that our abs were cramped for a week after lol 7:20 Yes, TC stole the show :)
I knew Robert Downy Jr. would get nominated for this performance. The Academy has a thing for eccentric portrayals. John Lithgow (3rd Rock From The Sun) got the same for 1984’s “The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across The 8th Dimension” (yeah, that’s the title). Neither actor won though.
Thanks for the feedback 😊 I can't promise perfection, but I do try my best with the tools I have while learning on the fly. Thanks for watching and the comment! Blessings to you and yours!
Thank you for the feedback. The sound was lowered to avoid copyright, as for my mic, that was adjusted in a few months ago - as you'll see in newer content. But thanks nonetheless! Blessings! 🙏🏾
Glad you understood the parody of Hollywood. I think this is RDJ's greatest role as a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude. Tidbit, if you listen tot he DVD commentary, RDJ does it as Lincoln Osiris through the WHOLE commentary until the credits role and then he switches to Kirk Lazarus to say thanks for watching lol. The level of commitment is hilarious. If you want another war movie laugh, check out Jojo Rabbit.
OMG! That sounds awesome! I will definitely hunt that down! Thank you so for watching William, I appreciate you 💛
This is only movie I've ever left the theater with the intention of watching at home with the commentary on - and it was worth it! 😂
This whole movie is satire of Hollywood and parody of platoon, apocalypse now, saving private Ryan. Mission impossible among others
I haven't seen any of those movies, but I'll add them to my list. I'll definitely have to rewatch Tropic Thunder once I do! Thanks for watching and for your comment! 💛
More parodies apocalypse now and it's making of documentary
Robert Downey Jr did indeed do the DVD commentary for this movie in character.
They dont admit, but Tom Cruise role in this movie was a satire of Harvey Weinstein
I totally thought that too! 😂 I can definitely see it! Thanks for watching and for your comment Cleron! 💛
I thought it was Joel Silver.
It's all Hollywood agents in general
Every time Ben Stiller comes back across the bridge with his 'son', Little Half Squat, stabbing him repeatedly I grin until it hurts. Then, when he chucks him spinning off the bridge, I can't stop laughing. Not usually a fan of physical comedy😁. Hear you on the culture stuff. I think that the movie mocks that a white guy got the lead black man part instead of just doing it, like how Blazing Saddles mocks the bigotry by showing how absurd it is. Great reaction! 👍
Thank you so much Mars Falcon! I'm with you on that Little Half Squat scene! I was laughing so hard while editing! 😂 Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it! 💛
I think this is probably my favourite comedy, at least in the 21st century and possibly ever. Some people had an issue with the inclusion of Robert Downey Jr. as Kirk Lazarus after a "pigmentation alteration procedure" that is canonically why he is able to play the black Lincoln Osiris, but honestly, this conceit is not meant to be denigrating black people, but Kirk Lazarus himself, and the Hollywood apparatus that allowed this to happen (and used to allow it to happen for real). That neither sees anything wrong with this is the point, and they have a real black man there to be the voice of the audience (the voice of reason), against the bizarre excesses of the film industry. I also think it's funny how Lazarus can so easily identify why decisions like this aren't just wrong, but artistically flawed, with respect to Tugg Speedman's _Simple Jack_ character (an albeit cruder imitation), but is so immersed in his own ego that he can't see the problem when it's with him.
People say that a movie like this couldn't be made today, and I think they're right, but for the wrong reasons. It's not the blackface or the profligate use of the r-word or any other "offensive" property of the film, but the fact that this is a mid-budget ($92 million in 2007, which is ~$134 million today) original comedy, and studios have become allergic to risk. Any departure from something that worked in the past is heavily scrutinized. Instead, most of the expensive (mid- and big-budget) movies that get green-lit are the ones that studios know have a built-in audience, derived from things like popular novels, video games, and previous films (for which the new addition is either a sequel, a prequel, or an addition to an entire cinematic universe)...or they're remakes of films for which the movie-going public has nostalgia. *Every single top-10 grossing film of 2022 fell into one of those categories. EVERY ONE.* Unproven original content goes to the streaming services nowadays (although they also have plenty of properties with built-in audiences too), and rarely is it as well-funded as a film.
The other reason a film like this would have a hard time getting made in 2023 is that it relies on a fairly intimate knowledge of American cultural references, and so much of Hollywood's money today is being made from the growing (and massive) Chinese audience, who just won't understand most of them.* In order to comprehend the real story this film is telling, one has to be familiar with things like the historical context of blackface in American films, and the major tropes of classic American war movies like _Platoon_ and _Apocalypse Now_ - if you didn't grow up in this culture and experience (even passively, without realizing it) the references, you might walk away from the theatre believing that you'd just seen a mediocre, serious, war movie. Even the fake trailers would make no sense to a non-Western audience, people who probably haven't heard of _Nutty Professor II: The Klumps_ (which is what _The Fatties: Fart 2_ is parodying), who won't recognize the traits of a so-called Oscar bait film (even the title would be meaningless to many foreign audiences - _Satan's Alley_ ...I wonder what body part that could be referring to?** )...and for whom _Scorcher VI: Global Meltdown_ would probably be entirely believable as a film (though they might wonder why they'd never heard of parts I thru V). *Humour is not **_culturally-neutral:_* parody and satire don't work when the audience isn't aware that they're watching parody and satire.
So shelling out all of this money for a film that can only succeed in English-speaking countries (and possibly other parts of Europe which are familiar with American culture) would be out of the question. It's just too big a risk to spend all that money on a product you cannot sell to your most important customer.
*They also have to self-censor A LOT to ensure a film will even be able to PLAY in Chinese theatres.
**I died a bit when they claimed it won the Beijing Film Festival's "Crying Monkey Award."
Clearest explanation I've seen... thank you.
Thank you for this explanation and comment! I personally missed a lot of the references, since I've always been more of a TV watcher than a movie watcher, but I thoroughly enjoyed this film. Laughed my butt off. I can't wait to rewatch it in a few years once I've seen some of the referenced work. Thank you again for your comment and for watching! 💛
The opening overly dramatic death scene was a parody of a scene in 'Platoon'.
Well, I don't know if the conversation between Tugg and Kirk actually intends to make fun of mentally or physically challenged people. In my perspective, the conversation between Tugg and Kirk clearly explains how Hollywood movies always portray mentally challenged characters in such a way that their disability is not too extreme that the able-bodied audience doesn't find them repulsive. Such characters can still exude positivity and provide wholesome feeling for the able-bodied audience. They are always potrayed as innocent magical souls and often conform to the beauty standards. The best example is Forrest Gump. His disability is neither gross nor too extreme for him to be successful in life even though he mostly got lucky. He is handsome, has a respectable family heritage, is financially sound and has a loving mom who goes to any extent for her son. But, the problem is Hollywood movies always fail to portray characters with extreme mental disabilities who are not blessed with a good family, resources, looks, opportunities or even luck. Well, it's mainly because able-bodied people may find such characters too depressing, aesthetically unappealing or even worse, outrightly repulsive. Audience may not even find anything to relate to such characters. That's the primary reason why we often get to see characters like Forrest Gump in cinema but seldom characters like "Simple Jack". I think this is what Kirk meant when he said "never go full r*tard". I strongly think this single line alone is in itself a satirical dig at the Hollywood's recurring trope of mentally challenged people whose disabilities are not too extreme that they still turn their lives around and are epitomes of innocence and optimism.
Of course, it's understandable why people find the use of the "r word" over and over in this particular conversation off-putting or objectionable because the same "r word" has been used since ages as an insult by being completely unsympathetic to the mentally challenged people. They are still seen as outcasts in many parts of the world. But, I think instead of seeing this movie conversation as an insult to a particular group of people, we should focus on how this conversation cleverly exposes Hollywood's age old depiction of mentally challenged people only in a way that is acceptable to the able-bodied audience. Much love ❤.....
If you ever buy the dvd, the commentary is worth it and yes Robert Downey Jr stays in character for it.
Ouuuh! Good to know!!
Masterpiece of a comedy like the modern day blazing saddles
I read Tom Cruise said he'd only play this part if he was bald with big hands lol. Odd request.
Hahahah! Definitely odd, but also AWESOME!
Congratulations! You are the first reactor I've seen that recognized Tom Cruise immediately. Sharp eye!
In defense of those other reactors, the costume department made a work of art with him.
Thank you! I was so proud of myself for recognizing him! 💛
I second that!
I love how you refer to Al Pacino as "the other Black man" and not "an actual Black man." Shows how good of an actor RDJ is.
In an interview RDJ was asked why he took the role. He didn't say to destroy barriers or create discussion. He said "I got to be Black for a summer."
😂😂😂😂
The film will never get old for me :) Not as funny after the 5000th time, but it's always fun to watch :)
Saw when I was still in the army (no at the cinema *ahemahem*). We laughed so hard that our abs were cramped for a week after lol
7:20 Yes, TC stole the show :)
Thank you for your service! 💛
@@AlexxaReacts Oh bless you
Boo-Tee Sweat....luv it.
😂😂😂😂😂
Gotta do saving private Ryan, braveheart, inglorious basterds, Shawshank redemption, gladiator
Added to the list!! 😁
Movie was so dark I couldn't even see it
Thanks for watching! The darker parts are darkened due to copyright. It was either that, or remove it completely from the video.
Tom cruise character is based on Harvey Weinstein
12:42 🤣🤣🤣🤣 as the sole fake black guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Preach it sister - some 60 year old white dude 😉❤
🤣😂💛
Why did you cut the best part?
Most likely due to copyright 😊
Top 5 comedy
I knew Robert Downy Jr. would get nominated for this performance. The Academy has a thing for eccentric portrayals. John Lithgow (3rd Rock From The Sun) got the same for 1984’s “The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across The 8th Dimension” (yeah, that’s the title). Neither actor won though.
Reaction was good, the editing not so much
Thanks for the feedback 😊 I can't promise perfection, but I do try my best with the tools I have while learning on the fly. Thanks for watching and the comment! Blessings to you and yours!
Can't hear the movie and your nic is way to loud.
Thank you for the feedback. The sound was lowered to avoid copyright, as for my mic, that was adjusted in a few months ago - as you'll see in newer content. But thanks nonetheless! Blessings! 🙏🏾