Why did I want THIS gun? Part 2 Bond Arms Derringer

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  • @kravenofspider
    @kravenofspider 2 роки тому +7

    The Derringer actually has a lot of tactical flexibility. It's a "get off of me" gun, backup gun, and a car or truck gun.
    If most confrontations are about 3 shots, loading big bore helps on the probability scale. Should you have something else? Sure, but it's a great ancillary weapon that you can customize.
    Thank you for the history of the Derringer.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +2

      I agree it’s a great get off me gun, and the history is important and fun to recount

  • @davidthompson362
    @davidthompson362 Рік тому +7

    Hey man, I dig your review. Despite what people say this is my every day carry. I have the Snake Slayer in 45/.410. I put the rubber grips on it and it conceals easily and is very controllable to shoot. Everything has its purpose and I found one for mine, gives me a great sense of security.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      It’s viable for sure, I just prefer a smaller lighter conceal carry with higher capacity. 45 long colt or a good .410 shell is more than ample to stop a threat

    • @davidthompson362
      @davidthompson362 Рік тому +2

      @@crankygunreviews yeah you just have to practice with it alot to get used to the trigger. Keep doing what ya do and carry with ya what you want and feel comfortable with

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      @@davidthompson362 thanks for stopping by :)

  • @aksalaman4689
    @aksalaman4689 2 роки тому +12

    If you can afford it, buy everything you want.

  • @nerdyolddude4924
    @nerdyolddude4924 Рік тому +3

    So true! It doesn't have to be tactical. You can carry anything you want. I wouldn't want to be looking up those barrels!!

  • @Frugalphilly
    @Frugalphilly 2 роки тому +3

    BEAUTY IS IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER. GREAT VIDEO.

  • @P.HATHCOX
    @P.HATHCOX 2 роки тому +7

    I own a couple of these derringers now, a 357/38 and the newer 9mm Stinger slimline. No, they're not made for shoot outs but they make great deep conceal backups. I can make them disappear easily. The trigger isn't that hard to shoot once you shoot it and get used to it.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +3

      They definitely make a good backup. I still can’t get over how heavy they are. Way over built, but that’s a good thing

  • @STB-jh7od
    @STB-jh7od 5 місяців тому +1

    As a kid, I had a toy cap-gun derringer, made from metal with plastic fake pearl grips. I loved it, and was glad as an adult when these modern real ones came out.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  5 місяців тому +1

      Nice! I had quite a few cap guns as well,
      Those roll caps were pretty corrosive. Had a couple guns that the internals rotted away

  • @SuperAriel35
    @SuperAriel35 9 місяців тому +2

    I believe the derringer is a deep cover firearm. It a firearm for when you want to take a firearm in places that most firearms can not . I also own a derringer myself love my little pistol

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  9 місяців тому

      I’d carry a S&W bodyguard before I’d carry the derringer- it’s a brick. Weighs too much and it’s not slim

  • @carltongadgettmannprice352
    @carltongadgettmannprice352 21 день тому +1

    My first purchase of a Bond Arms derringer was back in 2009 and it a 410/45lc Cowboy version without a trigger guard. It was the only gun at the time that I felt comfortable shooting and protecting my home with at the time. Since then I have purchased a dozen other derringers including the Cobra Titan 45lc/410 derringer. I feel the exact same way about derringers as you do. I grew up as a kid watching Westerns and seeing derringers. Actually I'm into all Cowboy action style guns and if I'm correct, I only have two semiautomatic pistols in my collection and I will probably eventually get rid of them. Inconclusion, Yancy Derringer only carried a derringer as his primary gun in his Western show.

  • @aresthesunconure2135
    @aresthesunconure2135 2 роки тому +5

    Just got my 45acp roughneck model for a back up. I carry a 45xds, this one can fit in my pocket though, when I'm shirtless during summer and not wanting to brand on my back with the xds. Great gun and best offered stopping powers for the size.

  • @donjames5761
    @donjames5761 8 місяців тому +2

    i like derringers i carry one not because its the best option i carry one because i like it. a gun is not my first option of self defense for me it goes talking>hand to hand>firearm. i know not every encounter is the same but i was trained by my dad to assess every individual situation and respond accordingly. like im not going to draw on someone for just slapping me but i will draw on someone if they come at me with a knife or a bat

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  8 місяців тому +1

      Always best to de-escalate rather than pull a gun

  • @esegoldberg
    @esegoldberg 2 роки тому +3

    I have owned a Bond Arms Papa Bear(45 Colt) for a few years and I've been very impressed by it. I have used it to shoot aggressive poisonous snakes(it's a good idea to practice with your Bond Arms so you know how to adjust your aim for each barrel because there is a difference on where each barrel shoots). I have carried it for walks or recumbent trike rides. It's just a very handy firearm to own because it's easy to conceal(I recommend using a pocket holster). I'm a former Marine and was taught to make every round count. I carry strip clip with 6 extra rounds, just in case I need to reload. It's also built like a tank. A good thing about the 45 acp version is that you could carry a 1911 magazine with 6 or more rounds and reload 2 rounds pretty quickly. In my opinion it's the best derringer made(and I've owned and shot, other cheaper derringers). There are better choices for a primary firearm, especially nowadays with so many good 9 mm's available for under $500, but it's still a great firearm to have as a back up or for deep concealment.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      I agree, they’re well made, and durable. Would be a great snake gun, and a great backup. I like the idea of the 45 acp barrel with a 1911 mag as a storage device.

    • @lude3645
      @lude3645 2 роки тому +1

      Semper Fi brother. Once a Marine always a Marine. Be Safe

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      @@lude3645 thanks for your service

  • @CampfireSteveOutdoors
    @CampfireSteveOutdoors 2 роки тому +3

    Bought the snake slayer 4.25" barrel 38/357 a couple years back and have since added the 3.5" 45LC/410 barrel and 3" 22 WMR barrel as well as the small grips to play with. It is just so much fun that I'll never sell it. Actually open carry it with snake shot when prowling the Green Swamp in FL. My mini-shotgun.

  • @Oldsparkey
    @Oldsparkey Місяць тому +1

    I have the Grizzle as a carry weapon when out and about in the woods , it's small but powerful. It's versatile since I can shoot bird shot , 410 slugs or the 45 Long Colt rounds in it. I also have a home defense rounds which are 2 , 36 caliber balls with a 41 cal slug. Then there are the 410 ga buckshot rounds. It's easy to load , accurate for a reasonable distance and has a wide variety of different ammunition for it. Mine is loaded with a LC -45 bottom barrel and bird shot top barrel. Cant do that with a normal pistol.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Місяць тому

      I think if I got the longer barrel that could handle 3” .410 it would make this better, though a 2 1/2” shell can still pack a wallop! Its a cool gun and useful, but it’s heavy and still only a 2 shot,

  • @tylermorrison7051
    @tylermorrison7051 2 роки тому +3

    Over time, the hammer and trigger become easier to manipulate. If you repeatedly draw from a holster, cock the hammer, and dry fire (with shell casings), it becomes second second nature. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

  • @JackJazzm
    @JackJazzm Рік тому +1

    Great video bredren 👍🏾
    Thanks for sharing

  • @rayrieder2380
    @rayrieder2380 2 роки тому +3

    I love that derringer its awesome 👍

  • @michigunsanta8680
    @michigunsanta8680 Рік тому +4

    If you shoot 3” 410 000 Buck it’s like 5 9mm size balls hitting a target! You basically in two trigger pulls can do what it takes 10 trigger pulls for that GC3 to do. Is it really “more firepower”? Depends on what your wanting to do.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому

      Mine can only take a 2 1/2” shell. So I get 4 of those pellets… but I get your point. Still, you only get 2 chances, and with rifling and a short barrel, the chances of hitting what you’re aimin at under duress, and remembering to cock the hammer and using the extremely heavy trigger, may still not be as effective as a 9mm with 10 rounds and a light trigger. This is not a fast weapon to use, though I do think it would be very effective in many situations.

  • @jeffhanshaw6712
    @jeffhanshaw6712 11 місяців тому +2

    To me its a great daily carry, mine has saved me.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s viable for daily carry, just clunky, chunky, and only has 2 shots

  • @naughtystep9856
    @naughtystep9856 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the history. I’ve got this on my list too.
    Love Cartman too. If you sell T-Shirts that say “Screw you guys, I’m buying a Derringer!” I’ll buy one 😆👍🏼

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man lol. There is a lot of history on these guns- I research a bit, but am no where near a historian. I do enjoy a good historical firearm though :) many that I own are in my collection from their rich history.

  • @TheRedsuper1
    @TheRedsuper1 2 роки тому +1

    I'm looking to get a roughneck 45acp to carry in my pocket while riding my bicycle, since I ride in the rain alot the stainless steel is a must, and the roughneck is stupid cheap and highly versatile with barrel swap options.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      You better wear a belt and spandex with a pocket- this sucker is heavy and clunky, a S&W Bodyguard .380 would be a better pocket choice, or Ruger LCR, or a Sig p938… all weigh less, and have more rounds.

  • @ripcanadams
    @ripcanadams 2 роки тому +2

    The barrel I’m most excited to get is the 44 special barrel! 👍🏻

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      That would be fun

    • @samwilliams1142
      @samwilliams1142 2 роки тому

      I have a 44 special. I load special cast bullets and fast burning powder to keep the flash down. 200 grains SWC as opposed to the 240 LRN of factory.

  • @silverhorder1969
    @silverhorder1969 Рік тому +1

    When I was 19 or so the original owner of Bond arms passed away and if you wanted one on the second hand market they were any where from $1,200-$1,600! When Gordon Bond restarted his brother’s company, I think it was his brother, I jumped on the opportunity to only pay $500+. It’s not a good defense gun, but it’s fun as hell to shoot and is a must for any gun collection! I have a few extra barrels. When you shoot hot rounds I suggest wearing a glove..

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      I agree it’s a must for most collections- I’m still debating getting a couple different barrels as well

    • @silverhorder1969
      @silverhorder1969 Рік тому +1

      @@crankygunreviews If nothing else the .357/38spl or 9mm is a good choice. I got a discount code online and I think I only paid $130 or $150. I can’t remember now.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      @@silverhorder1969 yeah I was debating a .357 barrel or 45 ACP or 9MM. I would get a .22 mag or .22LR barrel, but they stopped making them years ago, and when they show up on eBay, they sell for over $400

  • @jtns2845
    @jtns2845 Рік тому +2

    bond arms derringers are pricey, niche, robust, simple, adaptable pieces. used original gen2 models are better values built than cheaper built/priced rowdy/roughnecks. changeable barrels make ammo scrounging easy. don’t print like a regular handgun. built like a brick outhouse so if the take a tumble wont break. easy to clean and safety-check. remove the trigger guard to use with gloved hands when outdoors for a winter walk.

  • @markkaufman9758
    @markkaufman9758 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of the fun guns that I like to shoot. later I bought the 9mm barrel cause of availability of the ammo.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      I was debating getting another barrel for mine as well, just haven’t yet because this thing is so heavy I never carry it. I got it for curiosity sake and because I’ve always been fascinated by them in movies

  • @michigunsanta8680
    @michigunsanta8680 Рік тому +1

    They have the Stinger ones now. They’re thinner and way lighter in 380 or 9mm. I think they’re coming out with a 38spl barrel and 22lr for it.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому

      I’ll have to check those out, but I doubt I’ll be buying more derringers. This one filled my desire for one

  • @GunSam
    @GunSam 2 роки тому +5

    If dems were the way they are now, back in the 19th century, having the high capacity of two would be too dangerous.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I know. Sad… you can reload a single shot fast if you practice, but still no where near as fast as pulling the trigger again…

  • @johnkellmer5133
    @johnkellmer5133 2 роки тому +1

    I enjoy the look and feel and pocketability of these little guns. I'll be getting the .380 Stinger RS. Arthritis makes me recoil sensitive. But that's ok. I'm gonna love it.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      Pocketability? It weighs like 2 pounds. I like it because it’s cool, but I never carry it

    • @johnkellmer5133
      @johnkellmer5133 2 роки тому +1

      @@crankygunreviews I think the Stinger RS is supposed to weigh sixteen oinces.it's on Boge's show at Gunblast.

    • @crankysports
      @crankysports 2 роки тому

      @@johnkellmer5133 yeah, this one def isn’t 16 ounces. I’ll have to weigh mine

    • @jtns2845
      @jtns2845 Рік тому +1

      if you have arthritis please avoid the lighter stinger (and the ill-fitted rowdy/roughneck). get an original gen2, add larger rubber grips, and get barrels to shoot either 38sp, 45lc cowboy loads, 380acp or 32long.

  • @ToddTheGunGuy
    @ToddTheGunGuy 2 роки тому +2

    You look the part brother.

  • @curtispatrick4137
    @curtispatrick4137 2 роки тому +2

    I love my "Grizzly"!!!

  • @honorb4glory606
    @honorb4glory606 2 роки тому +1

    I like to carry my Bond loaded with a 355 grain tungsten turkey .410 load in the top barrel, and a 296 grain .38 duplex .410 load in the bottom. Each load is bordering on .44 magnum pressure, and either one will stop a human no problem. People completely discount derringers, but they're actually the fastest, most powerful, most reliable pocket pistol design there is. I don't see much point in carrying a derringer that wont stop a person with one shot, so they're not for recoil sensitive people. They're for recoil gluttons.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      I don’t think they’re faster than a double action or double/single action revolver. I don’t think they should be discounted though…

    • @honorb4glory606
      @honorb4glory606 2 роки тому

      @@crankygunreviews , yes, tied for the fastest.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      @@honorb4glory606 what about a striker fired pistol with no safety? Pull and fire?
      Just playing devils advocate…

    • @honorb4glory606
      @honorb4glory606 2 роки тому +1

      @@crankygunreviews I don't really consider those pocket pistols. Whatever... in my opinion, derringers are the fastest.

  • @strattuner
    @strattuner 2 роки тому +2

    I CARRIED a DAVIS 38 SPECIAL FOR 22 YEARS,i kept 38 spl in the bottom bore and snake shot in the top,it did alright till i dropped it and it broke into pieces,i couldn't believe my weapon broke apart,anyway i bought the BOND ARMS DEFENDER MODEL,LOVE IT,ITS HEAVY AND i carry in my tool bag,again i load it with 45LC in the bottom and 410 on top,by carrying it in my tool bag,i can tell whether or not i left it at the house due to weight,many times i 'd clean it and leave it near the computer and get to the van,and i'd notice it wasnt' with me,this was nice,this weapon is 1000 percent better than the davis,i shot two pitbulls chasing my dog ,they were gonna nail him,i yelled at them and they come at me,bad deal for them i used rock salt and they split,quickly,this weapon is what i wanted for going into the big city,many rounds fit these weapons with a change in barrels,you won't be sorry,nice piece, made like a bridge

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      They definitely are well built guns, and the flexibility of rounds make them very appealing to people. I still think it’s a bit heavy to carry, but I love the historical value of these, and how simple and reliable they are.

    • @strattuner
      @strattuner 2 роки тому

      @@crankygunreviews ME and this weapon are connected at the hip,for life,pun intended,hangin there CRANKY GUY

  • @mlchaelphelps1158
    @mlchaelphelps1158 2 роки тому +1

    Same argument about carrying a 22. I would much rather have this weapon for self defense, than a knife or a club or umbrella. A bb gun could kill if a shot is meticulously placed. I'm getting me one

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      They’re cool and definitely an experience to shoot

  • @FreestyleC41
    @FreestyleC41 Рік тому +1

    Different barrels with a 20 second change over? .357 magnum down to a .22 cal? You’ve misrepresented this platform. It’s accurate and safe. Quality for the low price of under $400 for the roughneck series. If people like guns it’s not an only carry. It’s a backup or personal forearm.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому

      Well, I call it like I see it. I’m hoping people won’t buy this as their only gun, and for $400 you can get a much better small backup gun with reliability, higher capacity, etc…
      20 second barrel changes, yes… multiple calibers, yes for an additional $165-200 per caliber… reliable, yes. But good for learning the fundamentals and gaining accuracy etc? It’s clunky and heavy and a horrible trigger, short sight radius…it’s a backup gun for sure, again, for me more a novelty. I’d carry a S&W bodyguard over the Bond Arms any day of the week, and I do.

  • @Zuluknight1974
    @Zuluknight1974 2 роки тому +2

    I just picked one up at a pawn shop for 200 bucks it's the rowdy 410 /45 one nice get off me 🔫

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому

      It definitely packs a punch, but specially with full power .410 slugs or buckshot!

  • @johnnail532
    @johnnail532 2 місяці тому +1

    Carry the Taurus as a backup

  • @DavidYoung-rt4uk
    @DavidYoung-rt4uk Рік тому +1

    In all of my gun books, reloading mnauals, what have you - I CANNOT find Colt 45 long!
    Its either Colt 45, or 45 ACP!
    Matter of fact never was a colt 45 ling or short.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      45 colt and 45 long colt are the same thing.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому

      www.ammoland.com/2022/12/45-colt-vs-45-long-colt/#axzz7vKV3w7nF

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 2 роки тому +1

    If you want, Bond Arms will do a trigger action job for you. It can cost a lot but man they make it so it is worth it.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      I think I’ll leave it as is.

    • @jodynickerson3545
      @jodynickerson3545 2 роки тому +1

      How much improvement is there with a trigger action job ?

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  2 роки тому +1

      @@jodynickerson3545 Really anything would be an improvement if the price was decent

  • @011CJ
    @011CJ Рік тому +1

    Can't talk bad about a gun that works good and fits in your shirt pocket and now they have the new slimmer ones in smaller calibers

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      It may fit in your shirt pocket, but it’s gonna make your shirt sag a whole lot… LCP II, S&W Bodyguard, Kahr arms 380’s all are as small and much lighter than this.

    • @011CJ
      @011CJ Рік тому +1

      @@crankygunreviews ya can't argue with that Thay are heavy bulky little things

  • @timdurkee1029
    @timdurkee1029 Рік тому

    It is amazing to me you give a review and really have no idea what your talking about 😃

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому +1

      how so?

    • @timdurkee1029
      @timdurkee1029 Рік тому

      @@crankygunreviews well the trigger isn't that hard, maybe 8 pounds if you pull back and down,the way the trigger is designed,not straight back,and it alternates barrel's so if you shoot the top barrel first it will shoot the bottom barrel next,also before loading canyou can

    • @timdurkee1029
      @timdurkee1029 Рік тому

      @@crankygunreviews you can also pick the barrel you want to shoot first by looking at the fireing pin

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому

      @@timdurkee1029 The trigger is pretty bad- Maybe the one I have is worse because Massachusetts has stupid rules about factory triggers on some defense guns.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews  Рік тому

      @@timdurkee1029 Yeah I know you can alternate barrels too. sometimes when I do these videos I may forget a fact or two as I do them unscripted usually and don't have notes. so my apologies. but saying I don't know what I am talking about is a stretch

  • @MrBuckeye63
    @MrBuckeye63 2 роки тому +1

    Look as good 🤣🤣🤣