Olivia Wilde USED Jordan Peterson and Shia LaBeouf
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Before Don't Worry Darling, even has a chance to woo its audience it was embroiled in all sorts of controversy thanks to its director Olivia Wilde and her comments regarding the firing of Shia LaBeouf as well as villainous comparisons with Jordan Peterson and how he is the hero of the Incel community. The movie itself is not great, but unfortunately, it's also promoting a pretty terrible message.
In this video, I dive into the drama as well as why Jordan Peterson and Shia LaBeouf got dragged into some intense virtue signaling.
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The main villain of this story is Olivia Wilde ironically. Abandoned her fiance, betrayed her kids and didn't fulfill her professionally duties, all because she wanted to be Harry Styles' No.1 Groupie
Would actually like to see a genderbent version of this kind of story.
Funnily enough, I just got an ad right in the middle of the video talking about some rumor about Olivia Wilde and something to do with her husband, Harry Styles, and a salad, and I don't know what it was about exactly, nor do I care, but I just find it funny that I got an ad about her while watching a video in part about her.
@@leirawhitehart1236 Ahh yes the Salad Arc is well known.....
Maybe the wife who said "Now it's my turn," was supposed to represent Olivia. 👀 Now she gets to trap victims in the simulation.
Have you ever noticed how celebrities will start dating those they are making movies with? Often times, its for publicity. If you pay attention, they usually break up after the movie comes out and bombs. Ben Affleck and JLO, did this back in the early 2000s, with her stupid woke film Gigli. Harry Styles isn't very bright so the kid probably thought this crazy lady actually liked him......lol
I like how she thinks she is questioning the "system" but in reality she literally works for the "system"
She knows she works for the system. She wants people to call her brave. That’s all this is about.
Op
Exactly! The same system that made her rich and famous.
I have a hard time believing she’s not aware that this “system” has been very advantageous to her. If we assume she knows this - then that means she’s knowingly and intentionally just catering to her audience - young brainwashed women, while at the same time, rustling feathers. It’s good, free marketing.
She's a mole. A worm tongue sort of figure.
She takes what - she thinks - our current society looks like, and paints it in an apparent positive light - She does this by contrasting it with a worse dystopia that exists only in her own head.
'If you can't sell your own message, distort your enemies message into something too awful to buy into.'
That's the dictum she appears to follow.
@@youtubechannel12371 exactly
Wow, Shia Labeouf's letter just allowed Olivia Wilde to reveal herself for who she really is
She has a shady past in terms of the people she’s been associated with. I’m watching this to see if her Weinstein friendship was mentioned. (No, none of the following.) His behavior was an open secret in Hollywood (joked about in TV shows and award programs) and she only distanced herself from him after the Ronan expose and even then hers was a delayed response. A real feminist wouldn’t be kissy face / close with him for all those years (she can’t have not known). She was also name dropped in an allegation about Weinstein (two years before the expose)-Weinstein trying to get a model (who wanted to go into acting) into bed proposed a 3-some with the two of them and Wilde. Why Wilde? And then, the hiring of Nick Kroll when his father’s firm worked to silence Weinstein’s victims? Um, no. Too close an association for comfort. Surely there were other actors good for the role if she cares about women so much.
She praises Keidis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers whenever even after his auto-biography where he brags about statutory rape of a 14 year old girl. What sort of feminist does that? (A fake one, a feminist of convenience, one who uses feminism like she uses everything else to get what she wants.)
And let’s not forget her close friend Paul Haggis, who was arrested for rape this year (with multiple allegations against him). She served on a board with him of a charity he started.
Perhaps she didn’t know about Haggis, but she had to know about Weinstein, Kroll, and Keidis. Too much to be explained away if you ask me. She’s a pathological liar and an opportunist. She uses feminism to excuse herself of her own bad behavior. She’s just a user all the way around.
Shia isn’t that much of an innocent person himself but in this situation, she wanted to work with him before the abuse allegations about him came about so for her to use Fka twigs story for her own benefit is terrible
@@giasaleen2 Everyone knows Shia hasn't behaved perfectly in the past (like most humans) lol. He's on a redemption arc, so we leave him to that and wish him the best. Olivia, on the other hand, needs to do better and start her arc asap. But to do that, she'd have to own up to her faults and be accountable like a proper adult. Fingers crossed lmao
@@zangetsu1597 I mean he’s almost killed two if his ex girlfriend’s lol so let’s hope he got the proper help he needed.
@@giasaleen2 if he is the one that truly wrote that letter (i'd have a hard time even believing he could find someone qualified to write a letter that well done) I have confidence that he is in a good place to be better. That letter was extremely well said and is the words of someone who is stable, educated, and capable of being influenced by others.
It’s interesting that she made a film about “toxic masculinity” but instead revealed how toxic she is, especially when she claimed Shia sexually assaulted Florence, and Florence came out and said it never happened, only later to have Olivia take to social media and Trash Florence.
Nothing spells toxic like modern feminist.
Sounds like lawsuit material to me.
Well she's a 'Woke' Female Narcissist.
Hollywood is a hotbed of Narcissist Personality Disorder.
The 'Woke Mind Virus' is Narcissism. So like all Narcs, she'll have Zero Self-Awareness...which leads to her 'Projecting' her own negative flaws (ie gender-based toxicity, bigotry and supremacy - Female Narcs are literal supremacists).
All the Covert Narcissists and 'Flying Monkeys' of the Woke movement have these two narcissist traits. All the other traits too!
It's a pity the world doesn't study 'Cluster B' personality disorders.
Harry Styles is your classic thick Grandiose Narcissist too, his 'Flying Monkeys' will protect him from criticism though.
Wth
@@ryanmac8283 what specifically?
Yo Shia’s letter gave me an all new respect for him. So mature and well spoken. I’ll be following his career with more interest now although it’s possible his calling is just to be a father and husband now. I say “just” but it is in reality a much higher calling than being JUST an actor.
Shia shirt for Shia Fans..link on my page
It's called a publicist
@@aaronhepler8070 you really aren’t familiar with Shia LaBeouf
@@braynjohnson4302 lol and you are? He's "just" a woman beater, an abuser, and an egomaniac. But hey at least he wrote a nice letter once.
@@aaronhepler8070 exactly. Dude was nasty and had a serious problem.
Over the past couple years he really seems like a different person. People do change.
So she used this entire drama to cover up her cheating ass? Got it.
Then got cheated on and dumped herself
And her cheating balls
No, we care about misinformation not Olivia's personal life that gossipy people get off on
@@moxiemaxie3543 the whole video is her using her personal life not professional life to promote her so called work or projects
@@moxiemaxie3543 true, her personal life has got nothing to do with this narrative but yes her demeaning men is wrong when she isn't perfect herself
What strikes me as very odd is that Wilde is accusing the patriarchy as mean and deceitful and yet here she is running this $40 million production. Then she's using this production to shield her personal affair with Styles from her fiance and children, came up with excuses for her family not to come on set, didn't show up on set to direct for several days, lied about the reasons Shia LaBeouf quit the production, etc. So Wilde has learned the means to use movie productions to get away with deceitful things
Also, on the Shia situation, I truly believe she wanted a fling with him and Shia wouldn't budge. That's what I think happened and she was left scorned.
I think you pretty much summed the entire drama up in the last sentence.
The sad part is I personally like Shia most of my life, and it was sad to see him go through those rough periods for so long. It makes me so sad that when for once things are finally stabilizing for him, and he shows that chance to overcome his demons, this spawn tries to drag him back! So glad he seems to have grounded himself to not lash out, it demonstrates the true strength he has and is worth encouraging, while it show Olivia who the real antagonist is.
@@kate2create738 shia is not the brightest guy but he's very principled and you cannot buy that with money. even if it led him to get TDS and get trolled into oblivion and having a breakdown
Didn’t Shia purposely give women diseases?
@@lessimcdowell9897 uh.... what lol? Please explain that sentence seems crazy I have to know more.
So impressed with Shia.. Olivia is very prone to self aggrandizing, morally virtuous word salads.. all while looking so impressed with her “profound” talking points.. gives me total Meghan Markle vibes.
Thank you!!! I have always said she has the narcissism of Meghan Markle and Amber Heard, they think they are smarter than everyone. Eventually their fate will be the same, people see them for repealing humans they are. Let's not add the Harvey Weinstein accusations to her list of offences, and she gaslight us to think she is being targeted for being female.
She's a legend in her own mind.
@@leonardoD81 🤣🤣🤣🤣
she is beautiful and we can see what damage that has done to her. when you go your whole life with people admiring you, listening to you, and wanting to be around you that privilege takes its toll.
I heard she likes a bit of salad😂
Olivia ironically is the villain she’s the one who abandoned her husband, betrayed her kids all to date Harry styles
isnt harry styles gay or something??
Definitely something.@@pr00009
dang. feminism.
@@pr00009Louis AND himself....they for SURE were each other's first loves....
@@mollybrolly4717 gross
Thank you for calling out the narcissistic situations in Hollywood. Much love! 💜
because we need someone to do it for us?
You know who was never mentioned once during the whole sorry Don't Worry Darling saga; the two male screenwriters who wrote the original script unpaid on spec before Olivia Wilde came onboard.
Good point but screenwriters are almost NEVER mentioned in filmmaking unless they are a celebrity in their own right. Plus, screenwriters only keep their credits if there are less than 3 writers working on the script since their original draft. If they’re not credited for the script, no one is going to credit them for writing it. That’s just how the industry works. I’m a writer, so this pains me to say, but no one cares about the writers in the film/tv industry.
@@sparrowwilson4514 Unpaid though? Really?
That adds a whole new layer to this. You think they wanted to write a story like this or are they riding a trend?
@@JoelKellenProductions That simply means they wrote it themselves on spec, i.e. without a production company attached, to sell to the market. They will have been paid when the script sold and probably again at other milestones, i.e. for other drafts and when the film went into production.
@@S3aChange oh okay
Tbh, Shia's open letter to her is VERY diplomatic and classy
It was very mature and respectful. And it still didn't work. Olivia is a cow.
Shia although he once seemed crazy to the public is actually incredibly articulate and a well thought out person. I think his roles as a younger kid are what give people this idea that he is the character he was playing when in all reality he’s just that good of an actor
Adhd, autism, ptsd...
It was the longest NO I ever read.
Yes. Almost annoyingly so.
Feminists: men need to be better! Do better!
Jordan Peterson: *tells men how to be better and do better*
Feminists: this man is worse than Hitler….
Meatbags add many unnecessary complications to what they call Life.
I think we are in a no-win situation. Men have been demonized and women infantilized by modern feminism. It is designed to tear us apart.
To be fair, it is very dumb to listen to JP.
Spot on 🎯
@@cranberry2490why exactly?
For me, coming from a Christian upbringing, what brought me to Peterson was his talks on Biblical stories and how they are still relevant. For the first time, an educated man was discussing the stories of the Bible in a way that was supportive of it. That is what brought me to him. I do feel for him and hope he continues to grow in a better way. I hope he finds God.
He has said that he found God and is no longer atheist. There are videos and interviews too
I had the absolute pleasure of meeting Dr Peterson randomly, him and his wife were walking around the town I live. He graciously allowed me to take selfies with him, and even held my camera for me because my hands were shaking with disbelief. He is actually a very kind and warm man.
That is such a great experience! I'm sure I'd be a mental blank slate if I ever got to meet him!
Sadly he’s getting memed on with people swapping skeletor out for him in he man edits and some cheered once he caught Covid
@@Thomasmemoryscentral That's the mob culture that calls itself woke. Somebody says "he's a bigot" and everybody just blindly follows without questioning why or checking facts. Just like the mob that used to lynch people and burn witches. Same brown stuff - different time.
More people should look up to famous people like him instead of actors cause most actors are awful people.
@@RichardBirdsall I like the term "metal blank slate" . I shall hense forth use it in place of "my mind went blank" or "I blanked out". Thank you.
Shia LaBeouf needs to be recognized towards the right thing that he had done. Wishing him nothing but goodness in his life.
Ab so fucking lutely.
Oh yes. I actually (as an ex fan of his work) appreciate that he has stayed quiet and calm after the accusations against him and has gone through the process admitting his faults. If he is found guilty, I hope he goes to jail or pays whatever he needs to.
I'm rooting for this man to recover from the sh*t of his past, just as I rooted for Britney Spears.
This is the best outcome for someone who was abused as a child. He was wrong, but he's trying to fix it.
I honestly don't understand why Olivia said such a lie, but my guess is that she knew that Shia was and is still in recovery and gave him a chance because she most likely had known him for years (and wanted to be the director that gave him a stellar comeback), and then when things didn't go the way she wanted, she changed the narrative to make herself look like a feminist sister who cares about women in a film about "women empowerment".
On top of that, the things she has said and done about her divorce are just... questionable, and makes me wonder if she is the one that has been having a problematic attitude all this time.
Idk, I just don't like her.
And the "miss flo" thing 😂😂😂 like wtf Olivia.
The sexual and psychological abuse of fka twigs is unforgivable
aged well
Translation of Shia message: "I have a wife and kid who I love and will not sleep with you to get this part, even if you do threaten to MeToo me. You will just have to use your 'directors privilege' on Harry Stiles instead" Wilde was a good friend of Weinstein and has added MeToo threats to Weinstein's method to get what she wants.
Finally, I was thinking the exact same thing. I truly believe Wilde wanted an affair with Shia and he wouldn't budge. He left her project and Olivia was scorned by his departure. Thinking to herself, "no one ever refuses me " if that's true, it makes you wonder how many men has she gone to bed during and prior to her time with Sudekis.
She does have those hunter psycopath eyes
@@Story2ScreenMovieReviewPodcast no, that is not what I thought at all. I thought Ahhhhhh, now I understand why she was thrown out of 'House'. I thought she was great and I liked her and wondered why she was dropped, I was told she wanted more money, I bet it was far more than that. I wonder if she tried it on with hugh??
@@oldwelshlady6584 really? She was dropped from House? She was married to some multi millionaire prince around that time. So she definitely wasnt starving for money 💰
He actually was pretty smart with the way he wrote it. Pretty good public showcase of what happened here. Interesting that most people in Hollywood both good and bad, have an uncanny ability to appeal to public image.
I realised what sort of woman Olivia Wilde was when she called Florence 'Miss Flo'. From then on it came out that she cut the only black woman's role in the film, and was difficult to work with, and left her husband for her subordinate on set (that's bad too), but you don't treat other women in a belittling way, especially not when they are working for you, and you have more power over them.
So it would have been okay if she'd cut a white woman's role, because being black entitles you to a role?🤔🙄
She's a bigot. 😆 I'm getting used to this wokie brown stuff. One true generalisation: they're all utter hypocrites. they call other people names, but it is them who are all that.
Shia just gained a massive amount of respect with that letter, thank you for showing me this. Man is clearly going through some stuff in the past few years but his progress is amazing.
I’ve seen interviews from Harry about his music and his other movies. The clear difference in how passionate, proud and eloquently he talked about those projects, vs how he promoted DWD, says it all. You just know this man regretted his involvement, as did Chris, Gemma and Florence. The director with her behavior really drove not only the actors away but also a lot of fans or possible neutral movie goers. 🤷♀️
Your content is great. Dr. Peterson has helped me, a 45 year old twice divorced father of a 6 year old girl - immensely. His words have given me the power and support to take my life into my own hands and own who I am and the situations I am in. He will go down as one of the absolute heroes of my life.
Damn, it took you 45 years to figure out common sense. I feel so bad for you.
@@NiRvAnA6890 feel better?
love your channel- it's great to see social/pop culture commentary through the lense of a reasonable human being capable of critical thinking.
Harry ,bless his heart, is flat as a pancake. Olivia wilde, AH, Meghan Markle: these women do such harm to other women
Spot on.
Meghan Markle has that boy wrapped around her finger😄.
As a guy you just hate to see it ☹️
Her idea of a strong woman is a mouthy, narcissistic, patronising bully.
Kate Middleton is far better example of how great women can be.
And to men.
and my AXE
@@theaileenwilson i think that women who are abused have a historical difficult time being believed, getting proper support and help. I think that women had a disadvantage in many ways (f.i. workplace) and there have been great progress made. By women like these ladies there's a risk that we fall back into that old pattern of not believing women...(the paternising women are better than men wokeness is driving me insane as well)
Your point on female gaze 19:47 is absolutely true. Also brilliant choice of scene there as Mary and Matthew’s first meeting is a good visualisation of male and female gaze. Though you almost lost me because that’s Mary and Matthew❤
I was in the most literal sense, involuntarily celibate.
I'd experienced sexual abuse by girls as a teenager, had a break down and resurgence of memories at 25, and suffered crippling genophobia; fear of sex.
In my case, I genuinely believed that if I so much as touched a woman, I'd be an abuser, I used to wear long trousers in summer, would only swim wearing a shirt and would flinch at any sign of affection.
I had a lot of female friends, but always assumed I! was the problem, that there was something intrinsically wrong with me.
Fortunately, all this changed thanks to meeting my lady in 2015 when I was 33, my lady who is now my wife, and will continue to be so as long as we both live. I genuinely struggle with the misandry of films like don't worry darling, and indeed the world generally. Misandry underpinned a lot of my abuse, and it feels like these days, people want to put me back in that box, something I'd not wish on anyone! Indeed up until I met my lady I principally thought of being male as a negative state myself.
So yeah, thanks for the video calling out the misandry and taking these people to task!
Also, I should definitely check out more of Jordan Peterson's work, since he's a name that keeps coming up.
i am glad ur doing better! 🍀
@@dakotadenali , Some times better than others I admit, but yes, better than things were ten years ago.
I won't lie though, that this era of "women good, men bad", is extremely difficult for myself, and other victims of female abusers, one reason why perspectives like Baggage claims are really great to here.
thanks for the concern.
@@darktenor4967Thank you for being so transparent. We need to hear these stories. Also, please know that many women do not agree with the current trend of villainizing men. We see the damage it is doing and we are actively trying to fight against it, each in our own ways. I think Mr Peterson’s work and his own life might help you to focus on what you think of yourself, what your wife thinks of you, as most important.
@@lindalumae , thanks for that. I'm very much aware that there are sane women out there (I'm married to one for a start), however I will admit misandry is not something I find easy to take.
That's why I mentioned my history here, not to gain sympathy or false validation, just to say, "yeah it happens!", and point out cracks in the currently rather monolithic "men bad, women good", rhetoric.
Would actually love to publish myself, though lack of publishing opportunities due to the current climate and need to parrot the accepted message make that nearly impossible.
@@darktenor4967 You should publish your story, if you want. Don’t give up on any of your dreams. Who knows what the future holds!
Jordan Peterson’s approach towards helping men, urging them to consider their own agency and better themselves in order to change their own lives and outcomes seems to me, to be the most empathetic approach you can take without indulging their more selfish impulses. But people like Olivia Wilde don’t believe they deserve ANY empathy. And then when they mess up, will say things like “of course they messed up, they’re a man” without ever considering that something could’ve been done to prevent it
Yet she’s a power hungry cheating horndog. The irony.
Peterson getting emotional at the end for being the voice of a marginalised group of men is utterly heartbreaking. He continues in that interview talking how many young men take their lives for want of an encouraging word.
Young men do need to focus on being better but not for the sake of attracting a woman; young men need to focus on their own self worth, for themselves, rather than for the sake of being considered worthy by another.
Wish I knew how to make that happen. The best thing a man who has been helped by Peterson can do is be a Peterson to others.
Thanks for this video.
What we’re often forgetting is that when we were in our late teens and early 20s our raging hormones probably did half our thinking for us and we weren’t aware of it at the time. Nobody could tell me that either too. Stubborn as hell 😂.
Yeah getting your life together shouldn’t JUST be to get a girlfriend but it’s one of the most primary and basic needs after food/water, security and an inability to do that feels absolutely hopeless. I’ve been on both sides of that.
I strongly believe people don’t actually hate JP. It’s obvious if you read between the lines and observe how they forcefully and deliberately mischaracterise him.
They just have unidentified, unaddressed, unresolved issues of their own and are looking for a straw man to set ablaze.
Like angry pitchfork-wielding villagers.
I really like your last line, I'd love for that to be a coined term within the self help community or something, ' be a Peterson for others. '
@RoboTurkeyNinja I do think people hate Peterson. You're right about what people often "really" think, but they do genuinely hate him. It's not from any rational standpoint, but rather on an indoctrinated ideological basis.
It’s the thirteenth rule for life: when Dr. Peterson cries, we cry with him.
I keep thinking of all the faces he is seeing when he thinks of those disenfranchised young men. So many faces who are no longer with us. I know he lost someone too.
I think he cried because Olivia was mean about him in all honesty. I suspect the incel defence stuff was to try save face.
The truth will always out. People show their true character. We’re tired of these fake, self proclaimed ‘hero’s’ with no character or integrity.
Thank you for this sane and balanced perspective, again. I love how you've shown Jordan Peterson how I see him: as a very reasonable, deeply caring person who brings a lot of sense, balance and value to the table to many. I also find him to be more real than most people, which is so clear from the last clip, it broke my heart and says everything about him and what a beautiful person he is. People are so adamant on putting others in a negative light (especially those who actually try to change the world in a positive way) and polarize by misrepresenting people and their views, it's really sad. And wanting men to be better but not allowing them to do better or redeem themselves or believe whatever positive there is to say about men is beyond baffling to me. So much more to say but I'll leave it at that ☺, great video! Monique
So before Inceldom became a mainstream word and their communities were broken up I used to browse incel threads out of curiosity (I'm happily married and not at all part of the community) and so I can tell you that Olivia Wilde has no idea who or what incels are. The "nice guy" meme doesn't represent the majority of them and they are not mostly white men. From my experience, the majority of them are actually brown, Asian, or black and a common talking point for them was that because whiteness is considered more attractive in western societies than other ethnicities white men have a leg up.
Most of these guys also are tremendously depressed, have very little self-worth and think of themselves as being hideous. Some of them recognize that these perceptions cement their inceldom as it corrodes their confidence and makes them more socially awkward than they already were. Some of them aren't even necessarily physically unattractive but they have abysmal social skills often due to being shy as young children which snowballed into them being social outcasts all their life. They don't have friends, they don't know how to interact with people and they are lonely.
Yes, for a lot of them this leads to resentment of the opposite sex as they feel they have never been given a chance but it's not limited to the opposite sex. The chad meme comes from the same community and though it's been twisted now to mean a guy that's awesome it originally referred to their bullies. Dumb attractive guys that are accepted by everyone, get all the girls and treated them like garbage for no reason. I'll point out here that "Chad" is a name from White American culture, so again you can see the resentment of white people.
Huh. I appreciate you sharing that insight, I guess I had also been misled in favor of the stereotype. I feel badly for them, but....well, I don't know. I'm a former model, but by society's standards I'm not worth much anymore, married and pregnant with my third child (an adopted embryo, for that matter). But honestly, if society disapproves, I'm probably getting something right lol but I digress.
I still have an instinct to keep my distance from those guys, sorry as I may feel for them. Because I've found that if I show them kindness or empathy, they just glom on and read way, WAY too far into what I'm putting out there. It's really unfortunate, because it also perpetuates the cycle. I have to be, at best, friendly but distant. Which is of course interpreted as I don't like their looks, or their lack or money, or whatever. Whereas it's actually just a self-preservation thing, based on past cringe experiences (I won't elaborate, it's just too bad is all).
Can this comment get pinned please, it’s so insightful and you actually brought back a memory of the original chad meme, Jesus. What’s also quite sad is that a lot of these “incels” are all average decent looking dudes who could actually look really good if they dress up a bit. By they are so filled with self loathing that it is impossible for them to even consider it. Also porn, since they can’t get the real thing porn becomes there outlet, but we all know what it does to our mental health, making men think there small when there actually average etc.
I find it pretty ironic that people are laughing at Jorden Peterson crying. Is that what we want from men right now? To be openly emotional? He's always represented, to me, a subversion of toxic masculinity. He's openly emotional, he's empathetic, hes humble, and a good leader. Those are all traits that I would say are positive to masculinity. It's so wild to me that people demonize him when every time I've listened to him I've been thankful he has such an audience with young men. Hes the only one who can turn incels from their self destructive behavior. Hes encouraging trying to be the best version of yourself you can be. Why is that controversial?
Maybe they're too cowardly to allow themselves to feel deeply and compassionately the way Jordan does.
Because without incels they have no one to feel superior to.
Pun intended...? Or not intended?
“Its so _wild_ to me that people demonize him...”
(Talking about Peterson and one of those people to demonize him was Olivia Wilde)
Ew can’t stand him he’s not even allowed on campuses . Why listen to an idiot ramble about trans people and rights . Bruh he’s trying to set us back YEARRSS
People have already memed Will Smith tearing up and Kyle Rittenhouse crying, and then these same people wonder why men don’t want to show these emotions.
I love this. I met a woman who thought that I was confusing my son by expecting and teaching him to be empathetic but also strong both in moral fibre but also skills. I explained to her that I was raising him to be a man, and she just couldn't understand what I meant.
That blows my mind. Can I safely assume she was either single or not in a very healthy relationship?
@@Tyler_W I didn't ask to be honest. Probably too polite for my own good. She did have an opinion that it is son and husbands job to do the bins so presumably single.
@@emilypayton2070 my mother also thinks this way. in my opinion she should be single and i would advise my father to get a young girlfriend cause he deserves to be happy but he's a fool who thinks it is worth it to cater to someone who cannot even show gratitude
@@basteagui My friend, do not give up on your mother! Change happens slowly but surely. Your father is an amazing man, instead of giving up on her, u should talk to her.
We humans are one of the weaker species in this Earth yet we are the top of the food chain and its all due to us having the most advanced and developed means of communication and still we fail to use it effectively.
Doesn't matter what the circumstances are give her a hug and tell her you love her today
No good father or father figure probs. Just a guess
A fantastic video. I love the format you do for these essays and you've gained a long-term fan!
I am an educated woman who graduated top of my class with my Bachelor of Science degree in Accounting at 19 with my first corporate internship at 17, I am soooo much happier being a stay at home homeschooling mom. This idea that stay at home moms are all put upon little door mats is so bigoted.
Yes exactly.
Anti-natalist, anti-maternal self loathing anti-human mysoginist women
What a wild world we live in
Absolutely. And dripping with the resentment of women who made (and make) their living off of disparaging motherhood, femininity, and all men who disagree with them.
Who has this idea? Where are you getting this idea? I never had kids, I always worked, and I’ve never thought this about stay at home moms. I think people ought to do what is best for them and their families. There are opportunity costs for staying home and for not staying home (depending on what’s measured and the risks involved). I think it’s brave to stay at home given the risks. If I’d had kids, I’d likely have weighed the risks and stayed home.
@@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS I have gotten treated this way by a lot of people, who were disappointed that I didn't continue in my Accounting career. The media often portrays stay at home moms as repressed women being forced into the kitchen by their overbearing husbands. If the shoe doesn't fit then don't wear it, but a lot of people act this way
I absolutely love Jordan Peterson for his rawness and realness. These celebs talk about "authenticity" all of the time. Well, this is what it ACTUALLY looks like.
Most celebs wouldn’t recognize authenticity if it bit them in the face.
He lies about having a hair transplant. He ain’t that authentic.
@@BramptonHughes That made me laugh, but in all fairness I think it’s fair for people to keep their medical affairs private when they want to.
@@BramptonHughesif that’s the only thing he’s not transparent about then the dude still has a STELLAR record
@@YeeBoiiLuhsLearning if he lies about that it should make you wonder what else is bs, this is the only thing we can see now imagine other things he’s said
Such a relief and so refreshing to have rational reason from Baggage Claim in a mad world.
This. I haven’t seen virtually anyone on social media promoting actual thought over group politics.
@@lory3771 hey i suppose you could possibly enjoy a channel called patience xina- she also speaks with a lot of sense and reason
Your work does not disappoint! Thank you for another thoughtful video. I appreciated how you pinpointed the issues and successes of this film and all the hubbub surrounding it. I love your channel!
Something I really hated was that after that Piers Morgan interview, the media with their clickbait articles made it sound like Olivia Wilde "defeated" and made Dr Peterson cry.
And those are the same people who say that men SHOULD cry! And they wonder why men don’t trust them.
Ugh. That’s depressing. The vitriol is nauseating!
@@ab-gail these are the same people who say the young incel male shooter/self deleting types need mental health help and then attack the only man doing outreach to that at-risk community.
@@ab-gail
That's because when gynocentric "venusians" say they want "martians" to be emotional what they really mean is that they want "martians" to be emotional like them (child minded/conditioned "venusians"). The main reason they want this is so a) they don't have to deal with the complexity of talking or trying to understand/empathize with someone who thinks differently than them and b) have a "martian" available for them to use as an emotional outlet for them to unload their unresolved emotional issues on without the fear of being judged or having the man point out any inconsistencies or logical fallacy (like "venusians" do with each other) and without having to show appreciation to the "martian for it" or without having to be expected to give/do something of equal value for that "martian" in return.
And they trash "martians" when they show emotions because seeing "martians" beeing screwed and be miserable in every way makes them feel special and important since it gives them a sense of superiority just for being of the other sx. This is because they think it is "justice" for the bad stuf other "venusias" went through in some other parts of history showing their lack of individuality and that their entire personality begins and ends with their gndr. They relish and enjoy "martians" suffering and going through problems to the point that they need to see them suffer and be ignored because it makes them feel even more superior for just being a "venusian" due to the narcissistic and above all predatory mentality they've been conditioned to have.
26:13 I love how Jordans look sours as soon as Piers basically insults the people he is trying to help.
100%, Nick Rekieta mentioned this as well. In that Morgan interview, he almost scoffs at Wilde's mischaracterisation of him, but then his face drops when Morgan starts calling these young men "despicable weirdos" etc. Jordan really cares for them and their predicament, and all he gets in return is abuse and demonisation. He's not without his faults, but his teachings and career have helped millions of people through tough times. What have Wilde or Morgan ever done to help others?
I saw that too. That’s what made him emotional. We can’t help these young men if we just keep piling on to them. I was an unattractive and unwanted girl in my teens. A female incel you could say and I remember that pain of feeling unwanted. It just seems into your soul. But as a girl, I still had it better than many young men today.
Wow, this clip is very moving. Dr Peterson is so empathetic.
I mean, Piers Morgan is actually a vile, despicable weirdo, so he isn't exactly one to judge.
It was the same face I must have made too.. I didn't realize I would be crying right along side Jordan as he talked. I knew/know a few young guys, who were super lonely and had been encouraging them for years that things Do get better!
I've talked a few of them out of taking their own lives. (Thank God!!) And I'm happy to report that today, they are now in much happier life situations. I'm very proud of them all! 🙏👏
15:05 ish. Okay, she had me until she said that men carry no risk of being victims of domestic and sexual violence from women when every modern study that is done with any integrity has found this to be blatantly untrue. It's incredibly dangerous to promote that as accurate, just ask Travis Alexander.
Olivia wilde is insane.
I think this is true in the fullest sense - she has some mental issues that are preventing her from truly living a healthy and happy life. Worse, I think she has a lot of enablers who are happy to keep pushing her in an unhealthy direction even if it causes her to self-destruct.
And a cheater, and a gaslighter.
She's just another Hollywood degenerate
You had me at "insufferable Harry Styles".
Thank you! The way you made this video with plenty of resources to make people see how wrong it was what happend here
Thank you for talking about these important topics 💛,love your voice and style!
Jordan Peterson helped me get my life together. I’m a stay at home Mom who felt guilty and embarrassed of my decision to stay home for a long time. It was also hard because I like work too and I believed that I’d made a permanent decision in staying home. At one point I heard him describe that depressed people might be undereducated and I knew that was me. When I heard him talk about women regretting a high powered job with no room for children or women who’d made it to the top quitting to be with children I knew that was me too.
I got myself together and buckled down into being the best stay at home Mom I could be AND made plans to go back to school once they were old enough to be in school. It pumped passion back into my life. My family IS my priority and I do not desire I high powered job, just meaningful work. So I focused on the meaning of my children and planned for when they would no longer need as much of my attention and eventually leave home.
Starting grad school in January to study as a marriage and family counselor:) He’s pretty inspirational as a therapist too. I don’t know why we don’t discuss this as an option more though-being a mother young and having a career later. It’s the best way to have both for those who do. The only thing preventing it is societal expectations and refusal to take women seriously who have spent time at home-and liberal people can be some of the worst at that.
It's b/c Jordan Peterson has character, and Olivia Wilde has none. People with no character (aka, only live for themselves) have no frame of reference for someone who has it, so they dismiss and degrade them. Great analysis, as always. You elevate UA-cam with your well-thought-out content. Thank you!
I am a middle aged woman, single mum of two, who loves Dr. Peterson tenderly, fiercely, and protectively. In other words, like family. His heart speaks to my heart. I’m so weary of seeing him hurt and lied about.
I'm an old woman (almost 60) and I feel exactly the same way.
How Olivia Wilde treats her own relationships is proof she is the last person to listen to when it comes to having healthy relationships.
ANYONE Olivia Wilde thinks is doing something wrong is probably doing something right.
At 26:08 when you see Peterson's face change from amused about Olivia's quote about him to deeply concerned the moment Piers calls incels "weirdo, loner men, who are despicable in many ways" seemingly in his own words shows again how much he cares and it looks like he has a hard time grasping how people can be so shallow and just mean-spirited.
Yes exactly
Leaving a comment for the algorithm, and out of appreciation for the unique angle you chose on this. I’m so sick of the gossip, and the ongoing slander and deliberate bad-faith misrepresentation Dr Peterson is being subjected to
Thank you!!
Im a very feminine female and i love Jordan Peterson, just saying...
Me too!
Same
he’s amazing!
Me, too!
Same :)
I saw you on a Open Bar of Critical Drinker and loved your insight. I have subscribed. Hope you have great day.
Thank you so much for such a well-researched and wonderfully edited essay. A lot of effort went into this video, and it shows.
There are so many great points made in this commentary that made me think a little bit deeper. 👍 Thank you, Baggage Claim, for all the hours you must've labored to produce this thought-provoking body of work. 👍
Came across your channel today and my god you do such brillaint analysis of situations that you earned a subscriber in me(not that it matters). I just had one question as to why did you name your channel as "Baggage Claim"?
This is a brilliantly thought out video! Great reasoning put into it and wonderfully done!!! Subscribed!
Olivia Wilde, Amber Heard and Meghan Markle… I’m seeing a pattern with these three.
And by the way, excellent analysis!
Shia LaBeouf is such a strong man. This guy went through shit and everyone let him down. Only his wife was there and even she wasn't there from the beginning. The shit this guy has to go through is just unbelievable. It says a lot about our state of society when top men like Shia LaBeouf or Jonny Depp have to deal with this shit. Now imagine this for the average guy, that don't have the money or power to fight back. Typically, they just end their life.
/e Even though to mention he did some shit before that. So, it's not like he is innocent himself.
Shia is an abuser
@@PhilippBlum but it should be mentioned in a comment when talking about what he had to go through and what he had to deal with. Because unlike Johnny, Shia was not wrongly accused and scrutinised, he did that and admitted to it. He doesn't have to be the perfect innocent victim to be able to feel sympathy for him.
Check out the actors on actors shia and kristen stewart it's such an EPIC watch. Theres one part where hes talking about process and how he digs into real pain for scenes bc hes not acting school taught....it's a very dope exchange.
When speaking of people like Shia I can't help but think about a little saying about a suit of armor... if you were to choose someone to defend your life, would you choose a man wearing some shinny, undented armor, or a man wearing some old, dented, scarred armor that carries the tales of several battles, yet is still alive and willing to don said armor? I would choose the one with the dented armor, he has experienced battle, fought foes, learned lessons that the clean armored man can only imagine... the "Knight In Shinning Armor" is simply untested metal.
Everyone in life meets their breaking point at some time or another. For some, it is something not as significant as others might encounter, however, is capable of breaking them just the same. Some people overcome this tragedy, either with cash, social standing, or some other blessing. The rest of us break, totally and completely. The ones that break and are able to put themselves back together, better yet, who are able to improve from their failure and turn it into something to grow from, those are the ones that history rights about, and the names that will be spoken by our kind far after they leave this life. I hope to see Shia rise...
@@yellowhouse4911 So you have to list off all his “sins” before we can show him any sympathy?
The last clip of Jordan I felt that, my family demands these high standards and if I don’t meet them then I’m just “lazy”
I find it so ironic how she can make this argument about challenging systems that benefit men, when women not only benefit from being women in virtually every aspect of society but also in the same breath attacking men for being lonely/sexless, despite very clear and obvious disadvantages in those very systems. The fact that women can so casually and openly vilify men for their loneliness/sexlessness, or make insane claim like "incels believe they are entitled to sex" without any major backlash addressing her misandry, is in of itself a pretty telling of a massive privilege.
These constant attacks on incels, starting with this absolute refusal to even acknowledge that there could social systems disadvantaging men, is incredibly ignorant, malicious and bigoted. Even this idea that lonely men are just lonely because they have "nothing to offer", being so casually thrown around as if this could ever be said about a woman without it causing major backlash, is clearly indicative of a greater systematic problem.
Damn Shias letter was so well written
Olivia Wilde has "crazy eyes".
Duuude the eyes....THEY CRAZY
She has beautiful eyes! Go watch her in house, she was stunning! What has happened to her over the years?? I don't know!!
She has changed to the worst!!!!
Yes!!!! She has the crazy person expression in her eyes, like Meghan Markle and Amber Heard
EXCELLENT VIDEO. It´s very clear you devoted a significant amount of time to collecting info, building an eloquent storyline and producing it. Congrats.
Thank you so much!
I swear she would have done a better job directing and promoting DWD than the director
When speaking of people like Shia I can't help but think about a little saying about a suit of armor (as nerdy as that may be). If you were to choose someone to defend your life, would you choose a man wearing some shinny, undented armor, or a man wearing some worn, dented, scarred armor that carries the tales of several battles, yet is still alive and willing to don said armor? I would choose the one with the dented armor, he has experienced battle, fought foes, learned lessons that the clean armored man can only imagine... the "Knight In Shinning Armor" is simply untested metal.
Everyone in life meets their breaking point at some time or another. For some, it is something not as significant as others might encounter, however, is capable of breaking them just the same. Some people overcome this tragedy, either with cash, social standing, or some other blessing. The rest of us break, totally and completely. The ones that break and are able to put themselves back together, better yet, who are able to improve from their failure and turn it into something to grow from, those are the ones that history rights about, and the names that will be spoken by our kind far after they leave this life. I hope to see Shia rise...
Discovered you on Modern Wisdom and love your work. As for Wilde, she clearly benefits from being an otherworldly physical beauty, which doesn’t necessarily bestow upon one the virtue of morality.
Anyone noticed the similarities between Mrs wilde and Mrs Heard?
It's like all dishonest persons share the same stare.
Hey girl! Love your content, its amazing!
This is truly a masterpiece…. Thank you for making this. Baggage claim is on its way to being one of the best UA-cam channels for pop culture/social commentary and I’m here for the ride.
*"Hell hath no fury than a woman scorned."*
- The Mourning Bride (1697) , William Grovely
Seeing JP cry was truly heartbreaking.
I don't understand how these people arrange money to produce this films?
Like What producer in their sane mind would give millions for this crap?
George Soros... etc.
George Soros... etc.
This is a REMARKABLE, thoughtful, much needed kind of commentary and analysis. BRAVA, you’ve earned another fan 👏👏👏
Absolutely loved the explanation and the way the content was compiled here. I had this conversation with a few female friends recently and at one point I quit the conversation cause it became clear to me, that like andrew tate's case, they have only been watching tiktok clips of jordan peterson which was craftily clipped by feminist vocalists with an intention to paint a certain picture of JP and the narrative was pushed repeated to them with multiple such clips. They had not watched any long form versions of his conversations but their opinions were quite solidly formed. There is no point in trying to change someone's mind if they are not willing to consider an alternative point of view. Meanwhile, we have had yet another mass shooting in a walmart somewhere by another disturbed young man. It is becoming clear to me that empowering women = empowering human ego. And Ego only wants to win by defeating all other egos.
This video was flawless. Amazing work. You articulate points extremely well.
Finally someone who sees that a Hollywood director hungry for marketing is playing with stereotypes and prejudices by naming a complex thinker, who may be sometimes controversial but way more genuine and honest than she is.
Harry "Homewrecker" Styles.
Come at me 14 year old girls.
The clip with Peter Griffin humming away to the Beverly Hills Cop theme tune cracked me up
The more and more I see of your videos Baggage, I am glad it is out there. You are a great voice for pointing out the hypocrisy of those that are in power or professionally playing a victim narrative. Keep it real, and keep it up. You are a godsend.
It was bizzare how many people Olivia Wilde was prepared to destroy to sell tickets to a mediocre stepford wives remake.
Discovered you from your podcast appearance (on Modern Wisdom). Very astute, in-depth insight. Looking forward to watching more ☺️
The term "incel" has become a cudgel that is beat over the heads of BOTH men and women they don't like. A former friend said she thought Tucker Carlson was an "incel" because she didn't like what he said (this was 2 years ago, I don't remember the clip that she attached). I told her no, he wasn't because he was married with 4 kids, and she told me that "doesn't matter" because "look at what he said, I'm totally right!"
It doesn’t matter if a man is right, a femmo/ toxic biatch can’t be wrong!.. 🤮🤦♂️
Oh the incredible wokie logic... 😆 I'm well acquainted with it. My ex wife... 😄
The whole concept of the word "incel" as an insult is hilarious at its very core.
It's just the good ole' tactic of mocking someone for being a virgin, but adapted in such a way that it can even be used against married people.
This is why the people who say that the ones who use the term never aged mentally past high school aren't just making fun of them, they are genuinely stuck at the puberty induced mindset where having sex or not is a way to measure someone's value as a person.
"Who gives a shit if he's right or wrong, he like totally can't get a girl so he's like obviously a loser"
They are mentally children, which is obvious when you look at their behaviour.
Where you find the word "incel" used as an insult, you find crying, screaming and tantrum throwing.
I don’t understand why the main stream media hates, and dislikes people like Jordan person. It’s like they intentionally want to make him as very bad person because he chose to do the right thing in helping men and lifting them up. They’re hell bent on believing that no man should succeed in life. What a miserable statement by them tbh. It’s sad to see.
I honestly think it's because he's only concerned about helping men. Not to the detriment of women, just they aren't his focus, the same way a homeless shelter doesn't also help stray animals.
The type of person who gets upset about that is the same type of person who gets upset and mocks men for being suicidal. It's a very shallow, narcissistic, and vile way to look at the world.
I think it's because JP helps people do the hard work to help themselves.
Certain people now are very much against genuinely strong people, they want people to be needy, weak and dependent. Because they are much easier to control.
It might be a conspiracy theory, but the Left and MSM definitely seem to want the people down and out and under the heel of big government.
@@AJadedLizard you mean the way that there are 0 domestic abuse shelters for men?
I have a crazy conspiracy theory if anyone is interested.
@@Thor-Orion I am interested. The only difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is 6 months (said Russell Brand)
Men born since the 90's, if not earlier, have never once been told at a societal level that they are good, necessary, indisposable, and irreplaceable. Our worst tendancies to violence, bafoonery, and vainglory have been thrown in our faces nonstop, and our greatest qualities are at best ignored, and at worst labeled dangerous, mysogynistic, and hypocritical. We have been told that every good thing we can do would be better done by a woman, and every bad thing we do would never have been done by a woman. Our society has not identified a single thing--not. one. thing.--for which men are praiseworthy and only one thing for which we are needed. We're just sperm donors now--distant, anonymous, sanitized, and invisible, supplying the one and only thing a woman can't get on her own. And with children rapidly going out of style, we're barely even good for that anymore.
A well rounded look at a topic I wasn’t aware of, much appreciated.
She also used HELD (2020) and MADE FOR LOVE (2021) she based her villian in Jordan Petterson LOL guess what Jordan can do than Olivia can't?
Articulate a coherent smart argument !!!!
I'm a Simple Man, when this Channel has a New Vídeo, I Click and Grow as a Person!
I Love this Channel!
“My favorite thing about the movie is, like, it feels like a movie”
-Harry Styles
12:59
The reason why they think that "if someone is helping Mn then it means that their against Wmn"" is because most people have a divided/unbalanced/dualistic mindset which leads them to think and imagine things in a "us vs them", "me vs everyone else" type of thinking wich also leads to believing and seeing everything in a zero sum way. Basically if your not helping "us/me" then your helping "them/everyone else".
This is also due to a lack of understanding or straight up willfull ignorance of Objective Morality leading to basing right and wrong on their personal feeling and idiologies. A moral person wouldn't care whether the victim of an immoral act was of a specific gender, they would only care who was the victimizer (the immoral one) and who was the victim (the one in the right).
I’m here for Baggage Claim succinct analysis not ‘Don’t Worry Darling’. Coming across Baggage Claim through Will Jordan ( The Critical Drinker ) brought much needed levity to UA-cam. I watched the Chris Williamson Podcast before ‘discovering’ this terrific channel. Dr. Jordan Peterson asks me to be a better person and Dr. Wayne Dyer helped make me whole again after losing both of my parents. Baggage Claim, you did it again… great content, a great look back ‘at me’. Thank you.
You do a fantastic job with your videos. We can notice and see how much effort goes into this. Thank you.
The problem with pushing men to 'become the perfect partner', or 'make themselves desirable', is that so much of the dating world revolves around looks, and it's perpetually reinforced by near everything in the social, and mass media. If a man is born physically attractive, there's no amount of internal improvement that can fix that. Confidence can go a long way towards making someone more desirable, however what people fail to acknowledge, is that confidence is something that needs to be accumulated over time. Sure, it can be faked for a time, but often to devastating results unless you've already got a moderate physical/verbal appeal to back it up. If you do, then those will carry you enough to further boost your confidence. If you don't, then one small misstep, and you're done.
BTW, the one statement about how women being the 'picky gatekeepers' so to speak, as being an empowering dynamic for men; is a terrible message to put out there. It's akin to stating that a grouphome that beats children that don't behave, is empowering the kids to be better.. Like, as if all that constant rejection doesn't do some serious long term damage to our confidence levels. Especially for those of us that are only rejected because of our looks, or already existing low confidence levels.
All the ladies' hairstyles are off in this film, for a 1950s look.
Watch any movie or TV show from those days and women and girls' hair looks like muffin frosting; permed to death.
If it's not crispy and sprayed within an inch of its life, it's not a true 1950s hairstyle.
If it's not crispy and sprayed within an inch of its life, it's not a true 1950s hairstyle.
@@christinesarkis4029,
If you haven't put your hair in curlers before bed you're a failure at life as a lady.
Chris Pine should focus on voice acting. He has a good voice and those roles are better written
dang, this is the first hollywood story that has held my interest in years. Bravo on shedding light on the situation!
Thank you. Love the video! People need to understand the basic things about life, and not believe in some weird illogical narrative of today's society. Jordan is great, and she made him seem like a bad person, which is very stupid.
She's also dating one of her employees. As the director, she's using her position of power to take advantage of her employee but people look the other way because she is a woman.
I am so thankful I discovered your channel! Your videos are respectful and thought provoking.
And well researched
AHH ever since you said you were going to do a video on this I've been waiting for it. I've been so excited to hear your takes on it. Mostly cause despite owning an HBO max I don't have the stomach to go through this film myself.
His teachings and messages have really helped me wake up, stop blaming the world, and get my life back on track. This man is a treasure to not just men, but women too. He is making better men.
I would argue that hook up culture rewardes not all men but the top 20 % of men.
Only 10% actually.