Reacting To “Incel God” Jordan Peterson In New Olivia Wilde Movie
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2022
- Chris and William Costello react to Olivia Wilde’s announcement that Chris Pine’s character in Don’t Worry Darling was based on “incel god” Jordan Peterson. Is it accurate to call Jordan Peterson a leader of incels in Don’t Worry Darling? Is Olivia Wilde correct that incels are white? Should Don’t Worry Darling be seen as a politically neutral movie?
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Incels are disproportionately from minority backgrounds; 36%. After claiming that they're angry white men, I wonder if Olivia Wilde is as keen to call them 'entitled' given that her comments are hurting people of colour. Checkmate, bigot.
you are a light we all need sir. well said.
Lolllllll
@Baby Blue Rue looking forward to that
This made me chuckle. Good point, Chris. Really disappointed in Wilde falling for such low effort takes
Wow. Just when I thought I couldn’t dislike her anymore. It’s clear she just has a pocket full of buzz words and phrases she uses to boost herself serving/self righteous ideas up to the individuals who have zero understanding of how the world actually works. What a shame bc this film looked very interesting and it’s no wonder why Florence Pugh is refusing press
They know they can't win a debate with Jordan, so they have to resort to personal attacks.
They feel personally attacked and avoid the debate because they associate themselves with their ideas/ideals.
Typical tactic of anyone, online or offline, in my experience, when it comes to any criticism of Jordan Peterson.
Frankly, I don't know who Olivia Wilde is (I don't know if I spelt her name right, frankly, I don't care) but I can't help feel that my life is better for not knowing a person, or their work, who's effort is centred around making money from pontificating poorly researched, ill-informed opinions.
Lastly - love your work guys.
Keep up the awesome work 👌
Exactly.. S.I.G.N. language.
Love your work, thank you
Keep up the excelent work, After Skool!
Calling Jordan Peterson an Incel God is like calling Olivia Wilde a truthful director and a loyal wife.
😂👏👏👏
True that 👏😂
Not as wild as callong Peterson honest.
@martin skyler Like what?
@martin skyler JP was my first door into neurobiology, evolutionary psychology and human behaviour. I dont agree w his theist views and impositions and I have his book 12 rules. Even tho he talks good stuff the moment he starts talking about metaphysical stuff I just tune out. Even tho I like some of his lectures he is way behind Robert Sapolsky, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Andrew Huberman and all these writers.
Problem with people like Olivia is their shallowness/laziness/ignogance. They wouldn't bother to even listen people, whom they are ready to hate
A film can use outside sources loosely based in writings it is fictional an a movie that because he was used could be due royalties from the film.
the most terrifying thing is millions of women religiously follow women like Olivia Wilde in Hollywood & fully believe it all
Sounds like a typical radical liberal feminist.
I'm no incel, I have 3 kids and have never had an issue with women. Jordan is my hero, he helped me become a better person through his books and all his lesson's online. He's only ever helped others and not just men. He's an incredible person, I can't believe the backlash he gets, that's the few but loud group. The majority support and love him, including myself.
The irony. She doesn’t realize Jordan Peterson might be the most potent antidote to the incel culture. More so than any one individual out there that I can think of.
You tryna tell me that Jordan Peterson is more positively influential to the incel culture than Fresh&Fit?
Absolutely .I don't think she even listens or reads what he is saying .it is shame that she intentionally misleading people .
Jordan Peterson, David Goggins and Andrew Tate are imho the pillars, most popular and powerful father figures a man could have right now
He's a double speaker. He has said in ''jungian'' (lol) terms that it's women's responsibility to spread em for for entitled men who think of themselves as victims.
@@RunninQHsRock >> Nonsense. You can’t make a coherent argument so you throw mud.
She directed a whole movie and wrote a character based on a person she only read headlines on? That seems awfully foolish.
Outrage sells, whether it' justified or not.
It's clear she has not read or watched anything from him
@@vivienneb6199 i love the denial
@@vivienneb6199 haha i was pointing out that it was a blantant mischaracterization of him. Why does that bother you so much?
@@vivienneb6199 mob who? And call who names? What are you talking about? And you dont have to be a jp fan to call out a clear lie about him. But it's obvious I would be better off talking to a wall than someone like you.
I love how Wilde, an actress, has the audacity to call Jordan Peterson a pseudo-intellectual. Really? The professor who is a clinical psychologist who has spent more time in school learning his trade than she did in her entire life? Really? That’s rich!
She's a lefty, which is all one really needs to know.
@@BAztid true! So true!
More than that, he’s the most cited psychologist at UT and one of the top 50 of all time. Professorships at Harvard and Oxford. 30 years of clinical practice. Thousands of lectures given and millions of books sold. Debates with some of the most intellectual academics on the planet. Nothing short of brilliant. He’s just a giant threat to their foolishness so they’ll do all they can to discredit him.
She can just identify as an intellectual, its their lived experience. The left think therefore they are.
@@insidiousinflation8605 the left says “I think, therefore I’m right. I also know My thoughts are good because I’m good, so how could I have bad ideas? How can I be wrong when I’m a good person”
Basically…seriously brain dead, high school dropouts who ultimately are the court jesters, here to entertain the crowd yet they think they are the king.
This woman is completely out of her mind!
The fact that she is lying about her ex-husband, the actor she wanted as the main character... I feel ashamed of such women!
Olivia is another narcissist like Amber and co!
We love Peterson, he is an incredible man!
I can assure you that most men (me included) really appreciate the fact that women such as yourself make comments like this. It makes me feel heard. Thank you!
That's true.
Olivia and Amber do share a lot of the same negative traits.
Someone sounds desperate for male approval.
@@llhll8264 Sounds like someone uses insults to make people feel bad without getting anything useful out of it. Sounds miserable.
Have you actually critically listen to what he’s claiming? Here’s a good start: ua-cam.com/video/hSNWkRw53Jo/v-deo.html
Literally can’t stand JP
She's not stupid. By saying Jordan Peterson's name, her movie automatically gets publicity. I would never have heard of this movie otherwise. She sounds like a very manipulative person.
She divorced a man who she had kids with. Then starts dating a younger toy boy. Yeah, she's morally bankrupt by the looks of it.
but will you watch it though?
Don Don, nope. She's not promoting values I try to live by. In her movie or her life. Hollywood is depraved.
@@dondon9221 would probably watch it illegally. hahaha.
You won't watch it though would u.
As an Asian woman I love jp. I’ve been following his content for years and will be seeing him tonight. It makes me frustrated when he gets labelled with these terms as the core of his messages are always to become a better person, which is something that helps both men and women.
I'm a southeast asian woman and same! I was always so disgusted by western culture, but people like Peterson just made me have faith in western culture again.
As a non Asian person of myself, who the frack cares that you are Asian besides you and other bigots.
How was seeing him? I have a ticket to see him in November. Looking forward to it!
@@jb7753 i really loved him he’s really a remarkable human being
You often have to make someone the energy to get ahead in life... he's useful.
So I am a 28 year old French black woman and I like the guy! He’s been a very positive influence in my life!
God forbid Mr. Peterson dedicate his life to helping prop up an entire generation of disenfranchised men.
Women like Olivia love men who are losers. Like the one who served her papers on stage lol
Why don't people realize a society with strong men is healthy and safe society.
Oh the horror!!!!!
@@bruh...imnotgoodatnothing.4084 Because feminisms is actually geared towards destroying men.
Really lets us know what kind of men they want to exist
I am a 53 year old woman who had always considered myself a feminist until recently when I feel the need to distance myself from the outrage feminism of late. I cannot understand how women think shaming and putting men down helps create a more equitable society. I feel like men have been made wrong for being masculine for years and now it’s coming to a head. Also Jordan Peterson is a brilliant man and to speak about him in such a one dimensional way is absurd. I always liked Olivia Wilde… disappointed.
The left had become very prejudiced and hateful. But to them, completely violating every principle you supposedly have is okay when it's directed at their perceived political enemies.... it's sick. The left has driven the bus off the cliff and i don't see that changing anytime soon.
Well you shouldn’t like her anymore. I guarantee she knows literally nothing about him and just heard that “he’s bad” aka meaning he’s correct.
What I find confusing about this push against masculinity by feminism is that the majority of women find masculine traits attractive. True masculine traits, confidence, fortitude, hard work, the ability to stand up for yourself, determination, and drive.
Why are you disappointed by her opinion? Isn't she entitled to feel how she feels as are you?
@@nealheadley50 None of those are masculine traits, just values that either you or women value according to you. A masculine trait would be a pronounced Adam's apple
This is just insane. Clearly, they haven't seen any of Jordan Peterson's videos PROPERLY. All the people I’ve seen complaining about him do it because they saw a one-minute clip extracted from one of his vids that was taken out of context. I'm not even from Canada or the US, and I find his videos really educational and insightful. He has even helped me with some struggles I've faced... by changing my point of view or how I react to things.
Jordan Peterson is such a smart person and he handles things so well. I’m constantly impressed by how well he holds himself at all times and in all situations, no matter what dumb crap people throw at him
ok..
And Olivia Wilde is some dumb crap.
Portraying a psychologist who has helped millions as a bad person seems wilfully misguided. If I were a believing person, I'd pray for this woman. As things stand, I just pray that she loses her custody battle with Ted Lasso.
But what is climate? What is environment? Everything is environment!
The free market is THE BEST model of the environment that we can generate!
@@DeusExHomeboy Not helping
@@camgalloway691 environmentalism has turned out to be a cult
Also, by her discription it's bloody obvious she hasn't seen him or listened to anything he ever said. She just heard from others in her progressive bubble to hate him, so that's what she does.
Let’s go Ted
Not an incel, but Dr. Peterson literally taught me more about being a man than my own father. I got my first job after listening to one of his videos and /finally/ feeling like it was worth the effort.
Same. I don't agree with everything he says particularly about relationships (I think there IS something wrong with the majority of women in modern times, caused by social media exposure distorting their perceptions of what is normal), but his advice on self improvement has helped a lot of people.
Could you post the link to that video?
❤️
@@MrRhetorikill Yep, men definitely have their own problems. But women, media, and society in general are only too happy to discuss them on a daily basis. Every once in a while somebody needs to point out that women aren't perfect or helpless victims either.
@@MrRhetorikill reverse discrimination it is
I have always disagreed with his politics and his views on climate change and Transgender people. That said, when it comes to his insights into philosophy, psychology and how to live your life, he has plenty of helpful advice.
He is only a "king of the INCELS" because he is providing a way out of Inceldom and a path to self improvement.
Maybe that's a bad thing. Maybe they want them stuck there.
You most likely have a poor understanding of his views on climate change and transgenderism.
I'm a woman and have been following Jordan Peterson for years. I have a great deal of respect for this man. Olivia Wilde clearly hasn't watched any of Dr Petersons videos and actually listened to what he's saying with a level and non judgemental approach.
that's just wokeism being inclusive in their hatred
Olivia Wilde calling Dr Jordan Peterson a pseudo intellectual while she tries to delve into the complexities of a human sub-sect is beyond funny to me. I liked watching her play a fake doctor on Dr. House, but that doesn't give her any sort of intellectual clout in the real world.
Indeed!
I only knew her from House MD, which was from 2004 to 2012. Forgot she existed until now, only to find out she became another unhinged Biden supporter.
if anything she is the pseudo intellectual
She also played a punky bar manager in the o.c. This gives her loads of practical hands on experience to take on Dr Peterson.
Precisely. I'd love to compare credentials between the two. I'm guessing Olivia Wilde will come up short.
Calling a man who always advocates for family an "incel God" Shows how much they have known about that person
@@vivienneb6199 You do realize that our primary biological drive is to procreate? You also do realize that sexual selection neurally reaffirms a man's worth? You do also realize that in the dating market, both men and women are resources, where the interest looks at the characteristics of a potential partner and selects them upon it? Much of the person's happiness depands upon a relationship and mutual consort, as is biologically ingrained in us, so it IS critical that we pursue this. You must also realize that it is the biological role of the man to rise and for a woman to chose, this is the reality. Jordan Peterson has never once displayed any sentiment or word of what you note. Both men and women are resources in the dating market, are you telling me you'd settle for a 400 pound heart attack 60-year-old at 23 and you're not looking at any of the commodity characteristics for healthy kids and a stable, long life together? You think that having standards and working towards them is objectifying? Then the same applies for women, which have much higher standards for a partner, towards men, tenfold.
@@vivienneb6199 And I think men are walking wallets that women fight over.
@@syfiliskerino1998 is that tenfold standard natural or artificial though. How much of it is cultural and political imbalance, that's the whole question, it's too complex to simplify, as for JP he is contradictory as says different things to different audiences..eg he backs down when challenged about things he really believes, meaning he lacks of confidence of his gut.
@@syfiliskerino1998 So you agree that dating is an exchange of male resources for female fertility? So you understand that the welfare state inflated women's standards while lowering men''s standards? You understand how Feminism is Affirmative Action for ugly women? And you get Stefan Molyneux when he said the male equivalent of the welfare state would be Free Sex Vouchers for men. Ladies, to understand how open borders feels to taxpayers, imagine if the Government issued coupons to men and if any man handed you one (note you find 85% of them ugly) you HAD to have sex (just like the IRS says I HAVE to pay taxes). And if you complained we'd say "Why do you hate all men?" And "not all men make you have sex with them".
@@boshirahmed Can you give examples of the backdowns?
If she just said "I find his cold analytical mannerisms would fit well with a fictional bad guy, so we used some of his mannerisms as a basis for Chris Pine's character," that would actually be fine. However, she decided to hold a strong opinion about his personal character, and that opinion is precisely the opposite of reality. Just makes her look stupid, which aligns with reality.
They have just given JBP another badge of honor to add to his already impressive collection.
Being called an Incel god, while being a positive role model to actual incels and social outcasts whose philosophy is to teach men how to become "good" men and human beings while starting to cultivate a productive set of skills and confidence that women finds attractive, is quite a remarkable achievement indeed.
Hopefully this backfires considerably. I've seen many hardcore radicals start watching JP to research how 'misogynistic' he is and end up actually agreeing with him and supporting him. So, her putting his name out there will only make him stronger.
Maybe the hope is to keep people away from his content? Critical thinking and self-reliance are the bane of certain mindsets. Best to not let that stuff get even close to the door, much less a foot across the threshold. 🙃🤡👺
@@JureDoon I'm sure that's at least part of their desire. But, it's like the Streisand Effect. By trying so hard to quash him, they're just bringing more exposure. No semi rational human can have any large problem with his general stances. You can debate the metaphysics and religion stuff but his general stance on human action and morality is too helpful to ignore.
I thought the movie looked interesting when I saw the trailer but now I won’t be seeing it after seeing what her message is.
I don't think he's an effective counter, I don't think anyone has ever made an effective counter.
But for the most part, yet, we aren't in a huge emergency when it comes to that.
@@DrDeen1828 But his religion stuff is such utter shite it should make him the laughing stock of the intellectual world. (It does but few have the guts to come right out and say it) Instead it's precisely what garners him most of his following.
It’s a shame that now every time a woman produces a movie, I know that it’s somehow anti-men.
The Gender war is a lose-lose situation.
Olivia Wilde should know that.
i agree totally
Which other producers/movies are you thinking of?
@@K3r0411 Yes
She got divorced and then talked publicly about her hoe phase after that… lol
She’s an internationally known actress finger wagging at people having trouble getting laid lol
Yea, a lot of modern day movies are not good. I just don't even bother watching them anymore to avoid the propaganda. It's not worth it even trying.
I'm from the time when dating and "hanging out" was the way you got to know someone. There wasn't any of this jumping right into sex. Each person had to gain the other's honor and respect . If I could say anything to men who are frustrated with women, please hang in there. Not all women are bitches. Besides, what would we do without you guys?❤
Consider the change related to the dissipation of what the Bible refers to as one "cleaving" to another. In order to "cleave, " one has to *know*. If one can't cleave, they effectively become beholden to their *beast* instincts, of which sex and manipulation of another are two extremely powerful *beast* impulses.
Why is the ability to "cleave one to another" evaporating?
The truth is hidden in plain site, and has been this whole time!
Read Daniel 2:43 -- it is Biblical prophecy!
Daniel 2:43 - "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, *they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another,* even as iron is not mixed with clay."
Now, you may quickly, and mindlessly, write this off because you don't believe the Bible, not realizing the documented word being deployed by those who wield the global Money Power and the veracity of the Bible itself are two entirely different things!
For those Bible believers, two entirely different things can be inextricably linked, but need not necessarily be so.
IOW, the Money Power Families (Royal and Banking Families) are financing Biblical prophecy upon the masses because they effectively believe it gives them a license to degenerate humanity outside their family line in a way that is completely sanctioned by God, and they fully expect to be rewarded by Him! No, they don't care what you are I believe, and they control the global monetary systems so they don't have to care.
Anyone desiring a big paycheck will be concerned with their agenda, though, and how to implement it upon the masses of Muppets.
Back to Daniel 2:43... metallic iron filings were mixed with the food supply beginning in 1941. That is when iron began mixing with the seed of men. Read verse 44. God's Kingdom will be setup within about 100 years of that mixing beginning (the lifespan of a Royal).
Got CovFeFe (and, yes, covid is all about reactive iron being unleashed and overloading the cells as evidenced by exploding ferritin levels in the worst cases. Exploding ferritin in the serum means exploding reactive unleashed by that ferritin into the cell before it was unleashed into the serum).
New Crown Virus... a new crown implies a new kingdom, no, and right in line with the timing in Daniel 2:43-44 (and it doesn't matter if the Bible is real or not, the Money Power can read it and finance it as they see it, *and they are.*
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Daniel 2:43-44
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Dating standards have fallen so hard its difficult to take a long term relationship serious. Plenty of fish in the sea but only a few are worth making a home with. Least that's how i see it.
@@indrafides2648 Do any relationships exist anymore? Or is is it two people trying to manipulate each other into conformanceships?
People who want to relate to another are very rare. Not just rate. Very rare.
Two together is almost unheard of.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 Almost unheard of? I’d love to know where you are located. Where I’m from, it’s the polar opposite.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 they exist. Just the western world has totally taken a shit on healthy relationships and gender norms
There was a time when all we would hear from these "celebrities" were speeches written for them by better qualified and educated people, or an occasional intervention during a TV show with the main purpose of promoting their latest project. Oh, how I miss those good old times!
Incels: "Women are incorrect for not wanting to date me. It is their fault I can't get laid."
Jordan Peterson: "Women are correct for not wanting to date you. It's your fault you can't get laid."
Olivia Wilde: "Well obviously Jordan Peterson is the king of incels."
What's an incel?
@@josephsade3423 involuntary celibate, someone who can't attract a "mate"
@@benitocamela174 can't women be incels too? The way I keep hearing about this is as though (a) it's only a man thing (b) men who are bitter and resentful towards women (c) just hate women.
@@josephsade3423 yes, women can be incels too, but it's rarer
@@josephsade3423 An incel is a repellent, hateful, self-indulgent dolt who is devoid of personality or humour. Fans of "biological determinism". Meanwhile countless short, balding, non-modelesque guys are getting laid based on their charisma and personal appeal.
If this can confirm one thing for me, it's that Olivia Wilde is not famous or successful for her ability to think.
No, she became an actress because of her looks. She is close to 40, so her looks are fading. It's obvious when she angles her face at particular angles. Since Hollywood only gives out select female roles to women above 40, she knows that her last shot to stay relevant is to be a director of successful movies.
@@proudatheist2042 "... are fading ..." would be quite vast an understatement.
@@cantbendknee I don't think Ben Stiller was being hired because of his looks lol. And he has been a director for quite a while, he started directing in 1987.
@@manfredschmalbach9023 ah, so you think her looks are long gone?
😂
Jordan Peterson has done more for women than Olivia could ever dream.
Jordan Peterson: "fix yourself and women will like you better"
Olivia Wilde: "Oh yeah?, well I am going to blow millions making a movie out of a Strawman argument so flimsy a 20 second sound byte could pop the illusion like a balloon."
i did fix myself. But chicks just want to bang my good looking / rich friends. They don't see the quality they're missing right in front of them. Hormone-driven jezebels!
I am a woman and love Jordan Peterson. He is amazing, logic, clear, intelligent and sensitive. Wish there were more like him
press x
#metoo 😆
@@ChiIIOutMan Choose to be this way then, see where it gets you. I'm a woman as well and watch Jordan Peterson, and his daughter's, videos all the time. I agree with them 99.9% of the time.
@@SilviaVanThreepwood check the statistics
Woman here!!! Love him. My friends as well.
Jordan Peterson strikes me as being a very gentle and emotional man. Thoroughly decent.
He is a very good man with a heart of gold that doesn’t tolerate anybody a bullshit
@@movement2contact he doesn’t tolerate the bullshit. He speaks very clear on the metaphors and what religion means to him. There’s a difference between thinking about and discussing deeper things that gross materialists don’t comprehend as real, and saying every religious theory is factually true. He doesn’t say every religious dictate is true and actually takes a deeper more common-sense (or sense that should be common) approach to things. He doesn’t object to trans activists on religious grounds, he objects to the very real attack on personal freedom of speech and authoritarian, Orwellian abuse of language they push, under the guise of “tolerance”. He’s very practical in regards to both demented leftist activists, and the more religious right.
Except when he’s talking about lgbtq lol
@@yoboiboy4182 what did he say about LGB people? Or are you just talking about the extreme activist TQs that have ruined the LGB community?
@Yoboi Boy Men can’t get pregnant. If you don’t like that then idk what to tell you.
I feel that we have to stop wokers using everything they have at their disposal, to attack common sense, and protect Dr Jordan Peterson of this kind of stress, we need him here like for I hope 10000 years, teaching guys like me to be the better version of them selves, for their families and also themselves
She just vilified herself ..and of course her past despicable behaviors. Lmao. Good job woman.
The same people who always say “trust the science” are the same people to call any scientific research that goes against their narrative as “pseudo science”
Example?
@@oskeea Justin Trudeau and the whole thing in Canada with COVID vaccine mandates. He kept saying trust the science even when studies came out proving that most of the governments policies were completely unjustified.
@@oskeea Calling Professor Peterson "pseudo-intellectual" for starters .....
@@oskeea Dr. Steven Gundry wikipedia article.
Reminder that most fields of sciences are racists and white male based. Colonization based. "What's wrong with everyone else." Make others way to be more white. America is based on genocide of any race not white.
When Jordan was mocked as the 'red skull' in a comic a couple of years ago..... He and his daughter turned the mockery into THEIR joke, they produced merchandise based on THEIR response, and made considerable coin, which was donated to charitable groups.... Looking forward to how they spin this one!!!!
It has already begun, Jordan's laugh when his daughter told him he was declared an "Incel God" is AWESOME! ua-cam.com/video/pkw_yiNA0gE/v-deo.html
Was that years ago?
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 Pretty sure that was around a year ago at most... do I have a deluded sense of time?
@TheOneThatWon me too, was glad to buy them too. 🙏
Don’t worry, Lobster! Clean your room instead.
I’m a guy and I’ve never met a single guy that thought he was owed anything from women. In fact, most men seem to feel utterly unworthy of love. This whole incel thing seems a lot like gaslighting.
It is
spot on
Someone has to be the enemy, even the ones with no chance of having a family...
I appreciate you guys standing up for Peterson on this mischaracterization. It's so easy to correct these assumptions and beliefs in gossip by just going on youtube and watching for a while. People can find so much information to clarify, or correct their perceptions but many people are still operating on a low level consciousness where they value making themselves "feel good" and "virtuous" by talking down about others, before taking the honorable time to clarify that what they are echoing is true. And they do this without regard to the damage they do to someone's reputation. That part is inhumane, cruel, and unwise for moving society forward.
Olivia calling Jordan a pseudo-intellectual is so hilarious I have no words - just laughter...
Projection. The person you're angry is just a proxy for yourself.
Agreed. Floored me that comment too.
Peterson has a BA in psychology and a PhD in clinical psychology among his many academic achievements. Wilde on the other has done a few years in acting school. The intellectual gulf is huge.
my reaction too. "pseudo" intellectual. do you want to have a "pseudo" debate with him sometime....??
olivia who?
Calling a trained psychologist with an phd a “pseudo-intellectual”seems rather disingenuous
@Just A Donut Ah, true, I suppose. But, isn’t a Ph.D at least a way to try to separate the wheat from the chaff?
@Just A Donut a phd is literally the highest academic degree attainable. Sure there will be clowns in any building but for an actress to call someone who is a doctor in clinical psychology a pseudointellectual is something that should be mocked universally and instantly.
Yeah a PhD is essentially the stamp of “expert” on any subject - hate the “pseudo intellectual” take
@Mitthenstein i made my ph.d in genetics/tumorbiology. I had my last postdocs in neurobiology. According to your logic i am not an expert on neurobiology despite my 4 publications on that field. You make no sense.
@Mitthenstein There is literally no such thing as a PhD in "alcoholism". One receives a degree in a broad field of study, i.e. Psychology, Political Science, Anthropology and so forth. One may study alcoholism from either a medical or psychological view and have written their dissertation on the psychological effects of alcoholism for example, but it is not a whole separate degreed field.
This video, and ALL videos of the sort, needs to blow up.
Anyone who tries to help young men with their struggles is called an incel misogynist. And then they'll claim there's no attack on masculinity. Absolutely deranged and evil behaviour.
As a woman I love Dr Petersons content as well as his character. So what if most of viewers are men. Most viewers of sports are men and most viewers of chick flicks are women.
But muh evil patriarchal incel supremacy, what about muh evil patriarchal incel supremacy movement!!? - Olivia Wilde probably
Exactly
It' the actual rhetoric peopllle have a problem with. JP does cater to entitled, abusive men who do mental gymnastics to think of themselves as victims and he's acquired an idealistic cult and a lot of money from it.
@@RunninQHsRock Do you have proof? Or can you flesh out the reasons for your answer?
@@rhexsusx4428 Of course he can't. He's never watched a Peterson video in his life.
Peterson is a hero -- from a non-white non-incel North African lol
From a West African, a lot of you guys don't wanna be labelled as African. Am I right or wrong? I don't wanna generalize but it's true
Lol
@@pistolpete8231 Most people who actually live in north Africa couldn't care less if someone thinks they're African or not, they identify more with being Berber or Arab. They don't see a pan-African identity (except for Gadafii lol)
@@mkb2420 Exactly, you made my point. Ya'll are maddd racist too.
@@pistolpete8231 Here we begin with the name calling again.
Jordan peterson has done so many positive things especially for young people and for young men.
in an era of narcissism-promoting culture, JP is encouraging people to look at how they can be responsible members of their families and communities. he's the father figure that so many people are missing. every now and then he gets stuff wrong, like all of our fathers do, but like any good father, he wants the best for his kids
I was extremely surprised by this! Linking Jordan to incels is absolutely mindblowing and to call him pseudo-intellectual is laughable. The man is a beacon of rationality to all of humanity in a time we need it most.
Brilliant - right on.
For me, Jordan Peterson is a very attractive man! His mind, his intelectual level is absolutely mesmerizing.
@Mitthenstein @Mitthenstein I'm pretty sure he tells them they are the problem and need to sort their shit out if they want to attract a partner? Also unsure of the archaic advice he gives. He seems to be very up to date and deals in research and facts (many facts which people can't accept, you can actually see the extreme cognitive dissonance kicking in on people's faces when he professes things they don't want to hear) but yes I fully agree those post modern Marxists are 100% the problem with current western society although they are in the noisy minority. The vast majority of people are not like that and tend to be very down to earth, although social media, especially the twitter echo chamber, wouldn't give this impression!
@Mitthenstein thanks for the well thought out and detaild reply. I'll take a screen grab of your input so I can refer back and check out some of those videos you suggested later on today. Also yes I've never been big on history, so I'm defintly not that clued up on these subjects (I spend my time more on the technological side of things) but interesting to hear Jordan isn't all he is cracked up to be!
Ironically except on the dating issue.
how does anyone interpret Jordan Peterson this way?! What kind of bubble do these women live in? To dismiss him in such a trite and cliche way is just intellectual laziness.
Had to laugh when she referred to him as a pseudo intellectual...talk about the pot and the kettle 😂
A Hollywood bubble
or propaganda
Or cheap publicity
She's the wrong type of feminist. She prob was paid to make movies like this to discredit him (strong masculine men). Seems the culture now to disable men, make them weak. Less honorable men, less demands to process.
What makes someone an incel exactly? I have trouble finding women because I deal with severe mental illness, does that make me an incel? And if it does, why are incels hated so much? Why does having anxiety and depression make me a target for hate. And why does listening to Jordan Peterson sometimes to deal with my anxiety and depression, make me a bad person? I'm very confused. The only advice I've ever received from Jordan has been stuff about improving my own character. Its just stuff I've heard in AA or therapy, but said more eloquently. What is the issue here? The really funny part is that Peterson has actually been the cure for some of my more incellish like behavior. Things like blaming the world for my problems, holding resentments against women. I already hardly did this, but to the degree that I did, he's helped me do it even less.
I used to think I was an incel because I wasn’t having as much sex or great dates as I wanted (even though most men my age were not having any or very little at all) but the truth was as an 18 year old freshman in college just barely above average looking who’s only 5’6, with nothing to offer but potential, biologically and logically speaking I was and honestly at 21 still am no where near as attractive as I could be. The best dating advice I ever could’ve hoped to receive as a man was to build a life that a woman would want to be a part of, and that takes patience, effort and grit which are the antitheses of what a lot of the left pushes. The few women and dates I do find myself enjoying are the result of years of studying what women actually want vs what they say they want and what they need and expect from me as an American man and changing my approaches to women and life swiftly and accordingly
Well said.
I am an asian woman, and I quite like him. This is insane to portray him as such evil man.
If men have to do something to deserve sex with women (and not think they're "entitled" to it, as she says) then so do women. We should always strive to be better partners to deserve our men. It's about being a decent, mature person in a comitted relationship. But it seems for many feminists, women are perfect little angels incapable of harm, and have to be put on a pedestal just for being female. Now that's entitlement.
I think it’s pure projection on her part, it’s well known she slept around for Roles, now theirs guilt
Thats what you dont understand, women can get sex easily the average man has too have something, whether its how he speaks, confidence anything he has to have something of value, maybe he's a bad boy that makes you feel emotional? etc etc etc
Society flipped the script and made a world where women just ARE and men have to BE.
It used to be that both sexes were pushed towards being the best version of themselves that the other sex would want.
Then the feminists started claiming that what men wanted in women shouldn't be listened to, but ignored.
Why then should men listen to what women want?
And presto you get incels.
Plenty of femcells these days too.
Then those women are not feminists. They just think they are. The word here would be sexist. Words have meanings lol
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Used to be their fathers had to evaluate potential suitors.
Would honestly benefit women, as then even if you rebelled that would at least require some spine
what a wholesome convo! love it
Let's also not forget how she is trying to push the moral high ground story, yet she had issues with the first actor she tried to cast due to abuse allegations and then she cheated on her husband and broke up her family so she could sleep with her younger employee Harry Styles. Imagine if the roles were reversed on that one, the press would have a field day and cancel culture would be out in full force.
Note that "incel" means a man who is NOT in the top 4.5% of looks. We should start calling 95% of women "non model quality".
it could also mean men with unrealistic expectations. you can probably date an equally unattractive, unremarkable woman for years and not be considered an incel, but most young people (understandably) want to play the field a bit. in that case a good 75% of men are probably not going to get the results they want
@@casperowens2482 INCELibate men are not looking for women...that the whole point of being an incel...
Where did that 4.5% number come from?
@@casperowens2482 I'm just going to point to decades of Hollywood movies where the attractive smart guy or the attractive athlete is a jerk who hurts the woman who is attracted to him, and the main character is the dogged nice guy loser who ends up getting the girl in the end because he's the nice guy.
It's actually a really toxic model of dating and relationships, but it makes for a good movie that makes people feel good about its intentions, when really what Young hopeless romantics need to see is that they need to make themselves better people instead of vulture dating where they wait for a girl to be on the rebound.
There is one problem why some men claim they can’t get a woman. Women want a good looking man, men want a women who look like a model.
Let's all hear what the person who made her career out of being an incredibly attractive woman has to say about what it's like to be an unattractive man.
Well if it makes you feel better she’s about to hit the wall harder than Dale Earnhardt and then she’s going to get to experience life as an unattractive woman for the rest of her likely miserable existence.
They're catching up quickly in terms of lacking attractiveness once their timeline leads 'em up to that wall without any doors they gotta pass nonetheless ......
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LMAO Best comment!!!! She's got some womansplaining to do!
I'm glad I discovered your youtube channel cause I used to only listen to the podcast
Peterson has been a driving force in helping guys get their shit together. Many of them alone with nothing more than sheer willpower and some guidance from J.P. Surely that’s a good thing. He’s done more for young people in the past few years than anything else I’ve known. He seems to be one of the only people willing to trust young people with who and what they are and what they may be capable of, for good and bad. He’s the universal father many people need.
Which makes him an arch-enemy to the misandrist female supremacy agenda commonly known as "feminism". 😏
I've just finished writing a screenplay about a woman who used to be exceptionally beautiful, but as she ages and loses her looks she becomes increasingly angry about it. She becomes misinformed and mean spirited. She directs a movie and says that a character in it is based on someone she disagrees with politically as a big ol cope. I based the character on Olivia Wilde.
Hey look at that, I can do it too 🙄
It's a story of Snow White and the evil queen and I think Peterson was explaining that one. Although I don't think Wilde is attractive in any way, I find her rather repulsive and her fake smile shows crazy personality. Now, maybe in the past things were different, but I don't know, never liked her much. She was just another nameless good looking face on the screen.
😂😂😂😂
Yeah, but you did it so much better.
I will pay to watch your masterpiece, bro.
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼
Its actually insane how wrong they are. They just create lies out of thin air and project their fears into it
who is "they"?
Today's actual last wave of femanosm in a nutshell.
@@texfromro The “woke” (intersectional feminists)
@@vivienneb6199 Who the fuck is talking about forcing women to date creeps? Stop projecting insane bullshit onto people just living their lifes.
@@texfromro in this case, Olivia Wilde. In general, the left
Woah good call on Daniel Day Louis as JP, I'd pay good money to see that. He said he retired from acting apparently after that last Paul Thomas Anderson movie but it'd be worth coming out of retirement to see him play Jordan Peterson in a movie.
Jordan Peterson has been in a loving marriage with the same woman since he was a young man and he has a daughter that he loves dearly. And then there is the fact that he always speaks out against incel culture. Why is there this perception that he hates women? He literally sobbed on a podcast when hearing Yeonmi Park’s tragic story he is a very loving man with deep respect for women.
The glowing red eyes was a nice touch 😂
What a brave woman. It must be really scary to fight against an army of straw men that she herself put up.
".. who believe they are entitled to have sex with woman" - how tf do they come up with this stuff?
@Sez B Sounds creepy af but alrighty
What if no woman wants the man? Is he still entitled?
@Sez B most of history and our genealogy would show the opposite. In most cultures polygamy has been common for higher tier males to mate with multiple females and other males to go without any at all. Our genes also show more female ancestors than male ones meaning we’re more descended from men with multiple wives
@Sez B The devil is in the details of how you define 'entitled', and what the basis of that entitlement is. The word is too loaded.
@@annanieminen4335 what if no one wants to hire a female candidate as a FTSE 100 CEO? What if no man wants her? What if she’s overweight? You can guarantee a woman like that would be a self righteous feminist utterly entitled to super high paying jobs, dates and attention from men. It would be mens fault for having “unrealistic body standards” and “not giving a fantastic candidate like her an executive job because of misogyny” and that men that reject her advance “have got small dicks” etc etc. Feminism is the ideology of entitlement. When men have the audacity to reciprocate, the feminists viciously move against them to put them back in their place.
Just got to say, I have never felt a deeper sense of camaraderie than that which I just felt when the Jordan Peterson - Daniel Day Lewis connection was made. Have been privately thinking that for YEARS! Especially after watching 'Phantom Thread' again.
I just can't believe that there are people that will literally make a movie about someone and not know a damn thing about them. My god people are detached from reality.
Nothing more sadistic than making fun of using the word “incel.” It’s all fun and games insulting Men but even joke around with a woman and you’ll go to jail.
It is also sad to hear someone twisting the meaning of the word from someone who did a study related to it.
Imo the word incel is more offensive than the word bitch these days.
Oh grow up FFS, when was the last time anyone went to jail for joking?!!! Unless you think harassing women, touching them up or forcing yourself on them is "only joking"..... 🤨
You should probably define “harassment”, Karen. Absolutely nobody has an issue with consequences for the latter two (unless it’s the gross “retroactive withdrawal of consent because you sobered up” thing)
@@MKR5210 Thanks Karen, you help make escorts socially acceptable :)
All hail the Incel God ! May you take upon yourself responsibility and find meaning in your life .
find a load to carry and do it the best that you can.
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Only you, can become an incel.
I would give a standing ovation for this comment.
"clean your room, put your own house in order before you try to change the world!"
This was quite a good discussion. I was unfamiliar with both men until 12 minutes ago, but I might take another chance on more material like this. Nice!
Dr. Peterson's message is literally "If you notice a problem, don't pray that someone will come and fix it. Go and fix it. The world will get better if you do that." And I think that it's a very paternal message that a lot of young men are missing right now. No one is telling them that it's their turn up to bat, and they don't know how to recognize that or reckon with it.
1. What is wrong with famous Brits named Harry and their choice in mates.
2. Olivia Wilde - Literally who.
3. She sounds like a typical toxic woman who is way into her feelings and short on objective truth.
I wouldn't see myself as someone who looks up to Peterson, but I think I can see why plenty of other people do. And the way Hollywood regards him and his subscribers as pests is an example for the fact that the predominant symbolic class (at media, the arts, the NGOs, and most of academia) genuinely does not care about the struggles of regular men.
That's their prerrogative I guess, but don't come complaining when men start organizing among themselves and off the sight of main institutions.
Well said.
Mainly white men. But also men of every color. This is a war on masculinity
I never thought about if I look up to him. I saw many videos from him and with him and he presents lots of interesting information. I learned a lot from him. Do I look up to him and do I want to be just like him? No, not really. I like to learn, and I learned a lot from him.
@@edgar9651 yeah, I guess I said I don't look up to him because every time he publicly discusses an issue outside his expertise, more often than not (it seems to me that) he gets things wrong. And I don't think he is any better than other outspoken academics in that regard.
My argument is that Jordan Peterson has become the surrogate father or uncle for multiple generations of young men who were spoiled rotten by self-confidence-based parenting and bad parents, and he's just giving the advice that they should have already gotten at home.
Absolutely luv ur set up here, the background n all so smooth. Olivia Wilde is the one mommy warns us about.
This was a great interview, Thank you..
The absurd irony of Olivia Wilde calling anybody let alone Jordan Peterson a pseudo intellectual.
It is an inane claim. Peterson’s h-index - a measure of an academic’s number of average citations - is about 52. To contextualise this, Nobel laureates tend to have a h-index of about 60. He is borderline Nobel laureate level. Peterson is a serious intellectual…
It takes reasonable amount of effort to read Jordan Peterson's books, watch his lectures and then do an academic analysis and finally come to a conclusion like "INCEL GOD".
And that's why Olivia deciden to do none of that
It doesn't take a reasonable amount of effort, it takes an hour or two of time to actually listen to what he's saying to understand that he cares and he gives advice to help people.
“Because he used to be a professor and wears a suit” doesn’t make all of his accomplishments disappear
Height is an immutable quality in men, and just happens to be very important to women, especially in online dating where the vast majority swipe left on anyone under 6 ft tall, and many swipe left if you are under 6' 3". Crazy but true in the superficial online dating world.
I managed to date and have one night stands growing up as a teen in the late 90's and early 2000's, which allowed me the ability to become comfortable talking to women but I feel that if I was a teenager today, I'd be an incel. Something has definitely changed and not for the better and my heart truly goes out to young men.
I sort of feel like the whole "improve yourself'" thing is a but deceptive. I just sort of feel for most people it's more like .. exist in social spaces with womwn
Yes this is vital for socializing people.
I think what's changed is the prevalence of social media. When even average women are getting dms from a dozen 6ft tall buff multi millionaire guys on instagram (and don't realize he just wants to have s3x and would never even consider a relationship), why would they want to get with an average man?
It looks like around 75% of teenagers around my area are incels today lol. Women want nothing to do with average looking blokes anymore.
What has changed is the scale at which people can locate and form a relationship with a partner. Back then, it was friend circles and hangout places, now it is the region at large, if not the world for many. The efficiency of it has allowed select top men to s3ggs plenty of women, raising their chosen partners' personal standards, with no intention of dating them due to the fact all women gravitate towards them allowing them infinite choice, leaving even above average men with weak and seldom opportunities. Ultimately, these women that get ac tively chosen for f4k will not be chosen as long-term partners and will end up alone, shifting blame yet again to 'men, pigs!' considering only the top that played them to their benefit back then as men at all.
Holy crap just the start of what she said is so NOT Peterson. She's clearly never listened to one full lecture of his, read any of his books or watched a full video from his channel on UA-cam. Everything she said at the start is pulled from other peoples' opinions on the internet. She hasn't done her research in her desperate bid to pin her perceived problems on someone else.
Loved watching this !!
JP has helped millions of people around the world. People who disagree with each other under many other circumstances come together to hear what he has to say.
What I find "insane" is how utterly misinformed Olivia Wilde appears to be. Clearly, she has never been to one of his sold-out talks, read one of his best-selling books or probably never even watched any of his highly viewed UA-cam videos. What she has done, it seems, is to of read a bunch of lies on the internet about Peterson and believed them without a seconds thought. That's truly frightening.
Exactly my thoughts
she read an article about him on salon or vox or something
So you mean to say that women who chezt on their partner, and put their lust above the wellbeing of their children aren't the most responsible people on the planet
Willingly stupid .
It’s reckless that Olivia Wilde is that misinformed yet has the temerity to say such untruths to a journalist where her words will be recorded. It’s lucky that Jordan Peterson is not a litigious man. It just shows you how detached she is from reality.
I seem to recall maybe 10 yrs back or so, Olivia did an interview talking about her step father being a cold, military guy who never told her she was pretty or that she could do anything she wanted to. JBP being the father figure he is, is probably why she has such an issue with him.
Honestly I wouldn’t want my stepfather commenting on my attractiveness. That is weird. For one thing why would you trust his opinion? A nice dad is going to say you are pretty unless you are horribly disfigured. A dad who is a jerk will lie to you just to mess with you so if you asked your stepdad if you were pretty would you ever believe his answer? Also why do you want to know how sexually attractive your stepdad thinks you are to the opposite sex since that’s the root of what we find beautiful. I would say she has some very very serious daddy issues and probably should be seeing a therapist to deal with them.
I'm pretty sure she doesn't even have a serious issue with him but parrots what is necessary to get proper funding for her stuff she wants to realize. It is, in cases as obvious as this one here, usually much more opportunistic and much less elaborate than You would think.
Never told her that she could do anything she wanted to? How could a girl grow up now a days without everybody constantly telling her she can do anything she wants to? don't they know women are ALL wilting flowers, withering grass and melted snowflakes in need of constant boosting or they'll implode and shatter into a million pieces of insecurity... I mean STRONG EMPOWERED WOMYN?!!!!>>!!>!?!?!
Thank you for saying this, when I read what that actress said, it really bothered me because JP is anything but what she says he is
I consider defamation towards JP
I just got out of this movie. Only really felt compelled to see it as it's the focus of my film club discussion group tonight. I really am not sure what to expect tonight as the group is not consisted of close friends but just anyone who shows up and some people affiliated with a local theater. I haven't made it there for a couple months and is one of few organized social activities I look forward to . . . . Can I just send this video in my place? Lol
Some years ago I tried explaining to a fellow female friend what Peterson is really saying and offered to play some of it so she could hear for herself. She started shouting that she didn’t want to hear it. So much for going to the primary source.
It really is odd how so many of the people that HATE Peterson know virtually nothing about him. Hell, it's worse then that because a lot of what they think they "know" about him is *literally* the opposite of what he talks about. Like when people try to connect him to white identitarianism but in reality you'd be hard pressed to find someone more against identitarianism then him. What a strange time to be alive.
You shouldve headbutted her.
Weird how common it is. It's as if there is a subconscious fear of being wrong (morally and epistemologically) preventing individuals with low Openness to try new ideas.
She knows if she listens to him she will not find anything fundamentally wrong with his words. She’d rather remain ignorant and pretend he’s an incel nazi
@@mouwersor it’s not a fear, they’re just plain evil and they don’t care
Shia LaBeouf exposed her as a liar and now she continues to dig a deeper hole for her dwindling career, by insulting someone for no reason. Pathetic
How embarrassing is it to be shown to be a terrible person by Shia of all people? I mean it would be worse if it was Ezra Miller but still.
You should watch his daughter's reaction to the news (the man himself inadvertently makes an appearance). Highly entertaining!
I am an unmarried man in his early fifties who has been aware of Dr. Peterson for about 6 years. I have two of his books in hardcover form - and he offers a great deal of wisdom for today’s men. And I regard the “incel” phenomenon as deeply destructive to men - my understanding is that in their forums online, reports of success with a woman are met with hostility.
I've noticed that women who use the term 'darling' and 'sweetie' are the ones most easily triggered by content they don't like and have the most fragile of egos.
afraid of being rejected.
Thank you guys for this great review!
the fact that any third grade actress somehow thinks that she can become a director is very funny to me.
The most revealing line in this interview is when Chris says "I wasn't familiar with Olivia Wilde before this story came out". If actors want to get parts these days, then they have to promote regime narratives. It's that simple.
Take Lenny Henry for example. His career was over until he suddenly discovered identitarian race politics in his 60s. Now he's in the Rings of Power. Why do you think Oscar Isaacs and Brad Pitt wear skirts to film premieres? It's the price they have to pay if they want to secure future roles.
He just proves himself right every single time. Not by his actions, but by other's.
love speaking with native brits...the accent...even when they insult you to your face, you walk away feeling complimented and encouraged! :)
Great piece.
I've been following Jordan Peterson since 2017 and from what I gather from his talks is that it's not exclusively for men, it's more about how to make the best of your life and see the world for what it is but still have courage and hope. He does so through relating psychological and other scientific research through philosophy and stories.
It's funny how that message seems to mainly appeal to men, while most women (although not all) would rather just blame someone else (usually "the patriarchy") for their problems instead of trying to improve.
@@elmateo77 They don´t need to improve. They were born perfect, so the problem are the others.
Actual Feminism is just Rousseau+Sartre+Foucault.
@@elmateo77 I wouldn't say most women, it depends on the culture and setting.
I first started watching Jordan Peterson's lectures because I was learning about psychology, specifically personality at the time, so there wasn't any of this culture war rubbish going on and I got to hear what he actually taught in the classroom. He was just another university professor who had put some content up online.
@@andyk2181 same.