Well you can't flanderize a villian who has one specific goal. Plankton has been trying to get the Krabby Patty Formula ever since his debut. You can't really sink lower than that. In my opinion, his worst appearance in the post 1st movie episodes was One Coarse Meal, where he doesn't try to fight back against Krabs after being tormented endlessly by him dressed as Pearl. He just waits for suicide to happen and Krabs just pisses all over him. They probably should have let Sheldon J Plankton win by exposing Krabs to his real fear, losing his moonay. And Pearl having her father house arrested for stealing her identity.
BlythePennyBicycle21 Yeah, but also remember that he wrote for that episode alongside SpongeBob's two most infamous writers of all time: Casey Alexander and Zeus Cervas. There's only one good episode that those two wrote for that I can think of at the top of my head right now, and that's Sand Castles in the Sand.
I think it's Plankton manipulating the audience beyond the fourth wall to make them root for the "wrong" guy. His actor did write the episode alongside Casey Alexander and Zeus Cervas, who have earned quite a reputation. The 2004 movie being the chronological grand finale of the series even goes to show that Plankton would go over and beyond in villainy. Come to think of it, it wouldn't be out of character for Plankton to write embarrassing stories about other characters, either...
Pretty much almost everything you said is the reason why Plankton has had the least bad appearances. As for me, I think it's because Plankton is a very easy character to write for. Given his one and only goal is to steal the Krabby Patty Formula, the writers are given unlimited options to how he's going to do that. And adding onto that, Plankton also may be the only character in the entierty of Spongebob that got better over time because alot of post-movie episodes tend to make him a much more fleshed out character, such as with Friend Or Foe, and Plankton's Pet.
+Alex Ramirez I agree so much, let's not forget Karen's much bigger role post movie. Sure in most episodes he hardly cares about her, but every so often, we see that he does. If nothing else, giving him a wife to bicker with has expanded his character.
That part where plankton is shown to be hostile to everyone just because he doesn’t have any friends really hits home for me that’s why I like plankton better than any other character
Plankton has always been an antagonist with a few motivations. I don't see how they could really mess up Plankton, besides making him outright evil, or stripping his personality, or motivation.
One thing I will say is that around Season 3, he started to become more casual and just like your average shcmoe, but with an evil goal. There was episodes in Season 1 and 2 where yes, he had an everyman side, but he was still a maniacal antagonist. I want you to name me one comedy-based villain who hasn't undergone that specific flanderization.
I think one aspect of why Plankton hasn't had many bad appearances in comparison isn't just that he's the villain, but he's a very hammy kind of villain. And, as someone else already mentioned, he's a Wile E. Coyote-esque villain in his goals. For why the hammy nature of his character works so well, it just makes him so over-the-top in his antics that he really isn't capable of being Flanderized even outside having a specific, singular goal in mind. He's always loud, he's always a jerk, and he's always saying exactly what he thinks which lends him to a lot of fun evil cackling or snarky moments, depending on where an episode is taking him. It's like Team Rocket in the Pokemon anime; yes, they had a time where they were basically obligated to appear every episode and would often be curbstomped, but given how hammy the three are and how dynamic they are as characters, like how James and Meowth can and oftentimes are more disposed to doing nice things when someone else helps them and how Jessie is more steadfast in being a villain but can prove she's also kindhearted to her friends when it counts. So their appearances aren't always going to be strictly steal Pikachu, be evil, blast off. And similarly, we do occasionally see Plankton getting to show a softer side with Karen or we have a change of pace where he's not out to take the Formula and instead wants to just one-up Krabs or has some other kind of scheme which leaves him a bit more dynamic, but still squarely as a hammy, over-the-top villain who tends to be funny in how he interacts with the characters and just how he acts in general. And a small part of that is also how Plankton's voice actor, in addition to being a writer, genuinely makes the character entertaining. Mr. Lawrence's voice work for the character just does so much to sell his hammy nature. And for him being a Wile E. Coyote style villain, well, again, like Wile E. or Team Rocket, we see this singular character who fails at everything and they have enough affable traits or are just dumped on by the universe so often that we want things to go their way. We become sympathetic to their plight and want the character to get some success in life. It's like the one episode you reviewed where Squidward goes to work for Plankton and things go really well for him. We feel happy to see a character who suffers so much having success or just getting to have a good time.
But what’s there to say about plankton? He’s simply a restaurant owner that lost business to krusty krab so he wants to get the secret formula for krabby patties to change that. By any means necessary
I liked the video overall but there are two specific things I wanted to mention: 1. Some would argue that Plankton HAS been ruined, at least to some degree. In later appearances, some argue that he's too sympathetic and ineffectual to be a good villain. I personally don't believe this myself but I thought it was worth mentioning. 2. 1:50 I'm not sure how his appearance in the first movie was out of character. Plankton, as early as season one, has been shown to have a mean and sadistic side to him. It's especially apparent in episodes like F.U.N where he day dreams about torturing Bikin Bottom with a robotic Jellyfish and in Sleepy Time where he dreams about causing misery as a giant. Then you have Welcome to the Chum Bucket which displays how demanding and tyrannical he can be when he's someone's superior only playing nice when he thinks that'll get Spongebob to do what he wants (Not to mention, taking Spongebob's brain and implanting it into a robot so it would obey his whim). Hell, his very first appearance Plankton! actually had him controlling Spongebob's mind. With all this in mind, I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all to assume that Pre-movie Plankton would end up doing the things he did in the first movie.
+ClassicLuigiFan Very interesting points. This is something that many folks disagree with me on. In the series for about 95 percent of his appearances, he is a complete failure. He may SAY he wants to harm people and control Bikini Bottom, but he never actually does it. He hardly even harms anyone in his pursuit of the formuler. It's not that it's explicitly "out of character" as much as it is a different side of him that doesn't line up with how he is in the show. It's the difference between an ineffectual villain and one that actually has harmed people.
I wouldn't say Plankton was Flanderized, but his personality did receive a pretty drastic change. He started out in episodes like "Plankton!" and "Walking Small" as being malicious and aggressive. He felt like a villain you could take seriously, which made it all the funnier when he gets defeated in simple and silly ways. He went to college! A far cry from the character who constantly sobs about being a failure and giggles like a toddler while playing toys from a kids meal. One could say he's become less of a one-note villain character, but I think they went too far to try to make Plankton sympathetic.
This is an interesting theory! I never really thought about how 1 note Plankton seems to be, which ironically makes it easy for his character to not be flanderized.
For Gary his character didn't really get ruined or changed that much, the problem is that some of the post-movie episodes of spongebob use him in a plot that's already flawed or doesn't work. The problem isn't really over-exposure. They're just not using him in a good way, for example episodes like the cent of money and pet sitter pat have him suffer throughout the entire episode. It's more of a writing issue. In that sense plankton has suffered from the same issue because one coarse meal is basically plankton getting mentally tormented even at the end.
How about this for a Square Theory? What would've happened if SpongeBob ended after the first movie? Also, Does Paul Tibet deserve the Blame for SpongeBob's decline?
+Jonny Boy First one isn't too interesting of an idea. Shows tend to end in the same way: air the final episode, show re-runs for a while depending on how popular the series still is (in Spongebob's case, it'd probably last a good couple of months *maybe* a year), and finally re-boot it in the mid-to-late 2010s to cash in on nostalgia trends.
whiz 85 yes, but that's your opinion, I agree with you that there is a chance that it could've rebooted/remade, but what would happen to the actual Nickelodeon, or Fairly OddParents, or everyone on UA-cam that talks about SpongeBob, and it's decline (PieGuyRulz, MrEnter, SBells27, Jem Reviews, Avis Reviews, Valskibum94, me, and so much more)?, and I think PieGuy will really be good at explaining that.
whiz 85 Maybe it would've ended up like shows like Jimmy Neutron where people would have petions begging for Nick to bring the show back, Nick would've had Adventure Time and not Cartoon Network, it would've had less haters, Cartoon Network would've been shut down, and Nickelodeon would've been taking more risks like Cartoon Network. But, that's just my theory.
I think Plankton has some really funny episode after the movie, keeping it simple can help a character. I was thinking you should do a video talking about flanderization and how it can be done, Gumball is a good example of that.
Funny enough, since Sponge out of Water is a prequel to the first movie, at one point Plankton says, "with that formula, I can rule the world!!" Directly foreshadowing what happens in the first movie
I think it's because Plankton is a bad guy, you can't ruin a bad guy's character too much when all they want is the Krabby Patty formula. Also your hat is great!
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I would say One Coarse Meal is a bad Plankton episode, HOWEVER, he's in character during the episode and is merely reacting to all of the horrible things around him. Yes, him planning to kill himself in the end is horrid and an extreme the show should never get to, but, again, it's only a reaction to what he's been forced to deal with.
Plankton is my #1 Spongebob character. I think he even got better in the new episodes.I also like when he helps out the characters like in "Mimic madness" or "House worming" Episode. He's also damn funny. IDK how he got better tho. Seems really weird. "Come on! I want to see some distruction!" Sees Chum Bucket exploded ".... I think i've seen enough..."
I think one of the reasons why Plankton has fared the best in the post-movie episodes is that even though he still has the same goal he has had since day one, the writers are still able to add some variety to it decently well. Season 4 has some great examples, like Plankton trying to sue Mr. Krabs in "Krabs vs. Plankton" and trying to get the formula through Mrs. Krabs like in "Enemy in Law." A big part of what makes the Plankton episodes work is in the creativity of his plans and how they get foiled.
Plankton is my #1 favourite Spongebob character and I'm so happy that he actually developed as the years went by, maybe not much, but at least we know more about his life and his complex personality.
Hey Pieguy, here's an idea for a future Square Theory: How are SpongeBob, Squidward, and Patrick able to afford the lives they live? Here's why: SpongeBob and Squidward both work for the Krusty Krab, so we can put a pretty safe bet down that they're both working a minimum wage job. Patrick doesn't even have a job, and while he says in "The Card" that he has a landlord, he clearly established in "Home Sweet Pineapple," "... I built my house all by myself!"
I think we're getting close to the 9B review,cause at one point the word "company" poped up below the "Evil Spatula" slide. Hopefully this means sometime in the future we'll get to the 9B review,and Pieguy can get started on the review for Season 10 of SpongeBob because it seems like it'll be over in several months and the fact that it seems to be the shortest season for SpongeBob.
@PIEGUYRULZ Hey, I know it may be a bit off topic, but I was thinking about spongebob when I remembered your channel and was wondering if you could answer me something. Is Squidward truly bad at playing the clarinet? I know the fact that him sounding poorly is a common joke, but on several occasions there have been moments where Squidward would play really well for a while only for something to get in the way and he's suddenly "bad" again. The episode that made me wonder this was the one where Squidward became giant and Spongebob and Patrick made him a kelp mache clarinet. When he tried it Squidward played very well, and if I remember correctly he noticed how good it sounded. This realization of how good it sounded shows me that Squidward has changed nothing about how he plays and it just so happened to sound better. I also have faint memories of this happening at other times and it got me thinking that Squidward's normal clarinet just might be broken somehow.
I agree with you that in the first movie, Plankton does seem too evil. He’s shown to care about Krabs, being his former friend, that in the subsequent two movies when Plankton got the formula, he returned it to Krabs in the second movie and actually didn’t read it in the third movie because he was so surprised that Krabs was so depressed that he just gave Plankton the formula.
In my opinion Plankton's worst episodes are ones where they haphazardly shove him in to cause conflict, namely SpongeBob's Last Stand or Buried in Time
I think the reason why Plankton doesn't have too many bad appearances is pretty much because of what you had mentioned: he's the villain. He plays a good villain in the show, (and even in the movies IMO) and because of that, the expectation of his morality is set at such a low bar that he can almost anything he does can be portrayed really well. When he does something likeable, it's a nice change of pace and atmosphere. When he does something evil, it's to be expected. In all honesty, I personally think his worst appearance was in the episode, "Salsa Imbecilicus," (even though I personally like that episode) and that's only because Plankton's plan was so dumb, it was way out of character for him to try that. Sure, he's had stupid plans before, but most of them were just poorly chosen escape routes, not planning things the whole way through, or relying on dumb circumstances. His plan in Salsa Imbecilicus is not only a combination of all 3, but he barely even seemed like he was even trying. In all honesty, if it wasn't for how funny I thought the extreme stupidity of the Bikini Bottomites was, and how great of a team Sandy and Karen make, I probably would hate this episode as much as PieGuyRulez does. It's those two crucial parts, though, that change my overall opinion on the episode altogether. That doesn't change, though, how terrible Plankton's character was in this episode.
I think the episode "One Course Meal" is definitely his worst episode. It's easy to point out all of the out of character portrayals from the cast do to the bad writing but despite this, Plankton does seem to be the only character who hasn't been effected by this as you've pointed out. It's an interesting observation.
I feel like Plankton has been in bad episodes, but I don't think that he's ever been the cause of a bad episode. In my opinion Plankton usually has a good performance either because he's well-written or his voice acting is good, despite him being present in some bad episodes.
And after thinking about it, the worst Plankton episode is Gramma's Secret Recipe from season 7. Nothing of worth happens and I don’t get how Plankton thought pretending to be SpongeBob’s grandma to get the formula was a good idea
you know I have a theory as to why plankton has not been flanderrized, it seems to me that plankton is often so over the top that with the exception of One Course Meal it is hard to get out of charter.
I love his first episode named after him. I was so excited because I knew that there was a lot of potential in plankton. There still is because they haven’t focused too much on his complexity
Hey Pieguyrulez, How Do You Feel About A "SpongeBob" Episode Where Pearl Goes To "Boating School"? Since Pearl Is A Teenager, It Makes Perfect Sense That She Is About To Get Her Driver's Liscense, & I Also Feel Like There's A Lot You Could Do With Pearl & Mrs Puff Interacting.
How about a square theory on why do people think Spongebob has the worst season rot if there are other shows whose seasonal rot are much much worse Like Fairly Oddparents and Family Guy?
Okay this may be a difficult one but could you by any chance (using shit revealed in the show, things said by people involved, and stuff released by Nickolodeon) analyze the krabby patty itself Maybe even come up with the closest thing possible to the krabby patty formula)
Honestly I never thought sandy's character was ruined. I kinda like the science approach they took with her, instead of making her feel like a typical southern character. And yeah she had the whole karate thing going too and I like that but her being a scientist seemed really creative considering she's from Texas. When you think of someone from Texas, you don't think that.
Completely agree. I've been thinking about that as well. All the characters went downhill after the first movie, but they became even worse after the second. Spongebob is too much of a goody goody, Patrick is too stupid to be funny, Squidward overreacts to everything, Mr. Krabs is greedier and jerkier than ever before, and Sandy is just soooo annoying. Plankton is the only character to be just as good as he used to be
I have an interesting yet very sad square theory proposal should Spongebob get cancelled with the potential passing of Hillenburg? In case you don't know hillenburg has been diagnosed with ALS and this disease has no cure and people will live between 2-5 years. I think they should especially if that's what he wants. We know that he wanted the show to end after the first movie so he might take this situation and tell Nick to cancel once and for all.
NAK I agree but they also made me laugh. They brought back the old writers from Seasons 1-3 and you can tell. The episodes are very creative and it seems like they have listened to some of the criticism they've gotten. Like Patrick is way less of a jerk and more caring to his friends.
I got the opportunity to watch all Season 10 episodes 2 days ago and I really liked the new style and i got an old school Spongebob vibe as i watched the episodes.
PieGiy! I can't believe you said the M-S word! I thought this channel was supposed to be PG! Do you just suddenly jump back and forth between being PG and R!? Is that why those are your initials, is that why!?
I have to agree Company Picnic is one of the weaker season 9b episodes (of course nothing as bad as seasons 6 and 7) but definitely not as interesting as other episodes in that line up. But the slow motion scene is hilarious. It feels more like a meh episode from the first halve of season 9.
I'd like to see a finale where SpongeBob fails his drivers test again, with Mrs. Puff going over the line with the insults for once. Plankton tricks him along the ways, and turns SpongeBob into being very mean/evil to everybody along the ways (including Squidward, with him actually sticking it to Squidward for once).
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Plankton is like Wile E. Coyote. You know he won't succeed, but you still feel for him.
Well you can't flanderize a villian who has one specific goal. Plankton has been trying to get the Krabby Patty Formula ever since his debut. You can't really sink lower than that. In my opinion, his worst appearance in the post 1st movie episodes was One Coarse Meal, where he doesn't try to fight back against Krabs after being tormented endlessly by him dressed as Pearl. He just waits for suicide to happen and Krabs just pisses all over him. They probably should have let Sheldon J Plankton win by exposing Krabs to his real fear, losing his moonay. And Pearl having her father house arrested for stealing her identity.
Doug Lawrence, Plankton's voice actor, co-wrote One Coarse Meal, which is surprising.
BlythePennyBicycle21 I doubt he had any creative control.
BlythePennyBicycle21, I bet the only reason he was apart of the episode, Is because plankton was in it
BlythePennyBicycle21 Yeah, but also remember that he wrote for that episode alongside SpongeBob's two most infamous writers of all time: Casey Alexander and Zeus Cervas. There's only one good episode that those two wrote for that I can think of at the top of my head right now, and that's Sand Castles in the Sand.
I think it's Plankton manipulating the audience beyond the fourth wall to make them root for the "wrong" guy. His actor did write the episode alongside Casey Alexander and Zeus Cervas, who have earned quite a reputation. The 2004 movie being the chronological grand finale of the series even goes to show that Plankton would go over and beyond in villainy. Come to think of it, it wouldn't be out of character for Plankton to write embarrassing stories about other characters, either...
Ravioli, ravioli, give me the formuoli
Ravioli ravioli, give me relief from my painioli
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Pretty much almost everything you said is the reason why Plankton has had the least bad appearances. As for me, I think it's because Plankton is a very easy character to write for. Given his one and only goal is to steal the Krabby Patty Formula, the writers are given unlimited options to how he's going to do that.
And adding onto that, Plankton also may be the only character in the entierty of Spongebob that got better over time because alot of post-movie episodes tend to make him a much more fleshed out character, such as with Friend Or Foe, and Plankton's Pet.
+Alex Ramirez
I agree so much, let's not forget Karen's much bigger role post movie. Sure in most episodes he hardly cares about her, but every so often, we see that he does. If nothing else, giving him a wife to bicker with has expanded his character.
That part where plankton is shown to be hostile to everyone just because he doesn’t have any friends really hits home for me that’s why I like plankton better than any other character
And don’t forget New Leaf.
I find it funny that the show's villian remains the most likable character.
Because he's the only actual character nowadays
Plankton has always been an antagonist with a few motivations. I don't see how they could really mess up Plankton, besides making him outright evil, or stripping his personality, or motivation.
"Plankton's Pet" was the closest Story where it felt he was getting a little developed
One thing I will say is that around Season 3, he started to become more casual and just like your average shcmoe, but with an evil goal. There was episodes in Season 1 and 2 where yes, he had an everyman side, but he was still a maniacal antagonist. I want you to name me one comedy-based villain who hasn't undergone that specific flanderization.
I think one aspect of why Plankton hasn't had many bad appearances in comparison isn't just that he's the villain, but he's a very hammy kind of villain. And, as someone else already mentioned, he's a Wile E. Coyote-esque villain in his goals.
For why the hammy nature of his character works so well, it just makes him so over-the-top in his antics that he really isn't capable of being Flanderized even outside having a specific, singular goal in mind. He's always loud, he's always a jerk, and he's always saying exactly what he thinks which lends him to a lot of fun evil cackling or snarky moments, depending on where an episode is taking him. It's like Team Rocket in the Pokemon anime; yes, they had a time where they were basically obligated to appear every episode and would often be curbstomped, but given how hammy the three are and how dynamic they are as characters, like how James and Meowth can and oftentimes are more disposed to doing nice things when someone else helps them and how Jessie is more steadfast in being a villain but can prove she's also kindhearted to her friends when it counts. So their appearances aren't always going to be strictly steal Pikachu, be evil, blast off. And similarly, we do occasionally see Plankton getting to show a softer side with Karen or we have a change of pace where he's not out to take the Formula and instead wants to just one-up Krabs or has some other kind of scheme which leaves him a bit more dynamic, but still squarely as a hammy, over-the-top villain who tends to be funny in how he interacts with the characters and just how he acts in general. And a small part of that is also how Plankton's voice actor, in addition to being a writer, genuinely makes the character entertaining. Mr. Lawrence's voice work for the character just does so much to sell his hammy nature.
And for him being a Wile E. Coyote style villain, well, again, like Wile E. or Team Rocket, we see this singular character who fails at everything and they have enough affable traits or are just dumped on by the universe so often that we want things to go their way. We become sympathetic to their plight and want the character to get some success in life. It's like the one episode you reviewed where Squidward goes to work for Plankton and things go really well for him. We feel happy to see a character who suffers so much having success or just getting to have a good time.
What if there was a spin off show focused on young mermaid man and barnacle boy who fight crime
unless they cast Adam West as Mermaid, it wont work
Well, it would be Adam West because that's who they typically have voicing Young Mermaid Man
Might be a challenge...Not sure how much more time West has...
Creepy Closet I THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE MY GRANDPA LOVED THAT IDEA
I didn't jinx anything; I just had a feeling...Plus I saw how freaking old he was...
Everyone is saying plankton was to simple to be ruined this is not true
He went to character college
But what’s there to say about plankton? He’s simply a restaurant owner that lost business to krusty krab so he wants to get the secret formula for krabby patties to change that. By any means necessary
I liked the video overall but there are two specific things I wanted to mention:
1. Some would argue that Plankton HAS been ruined, at least to some degree. In later appearances, some argue that he's too sympathetic and ineffectual to be a good villain. I personally don't believe this myself but I thought it was worth mentioning.
2. 1:50 I'm not sure how his appearance in the first movie was out of character. Plankton, as early as season one, has been shown to have a mean and sadistic side to him. It's especially apparent in episodes like F.U.N where he day dreams about torturing Bikin Bottom with a robotic Jellyfish and in Sleepy Time where he dreams about causing misery as a giant. Then you have Welcome to the Chum Bucket which displays how demanding and tyrannical he can be when he's someone's superior only playing nice when he thinks that'll get Spongebob to do what he wants (Not to mention, taking Spongebob's brain and implanting it into a robot so it would obey his whim). Hell, his very first appearance Plankton! actually had him controlling Spongebob's mind.
With all this in mind, I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all to assume that Pre-movie Plankton would end up doing the things he did in the first movie.
+ClassicLuigiFan
Very interesting points.
This is something that many folks disagree with me on. In the series for about 95 percent of his appearances, he is a complete failure. He may SAY he wants to harm people and control Bikini Bottom, but he never actually does it. He hardly even harms anyone in his pursuit of the formuler. It's not that it's explicitly "out of character" as much as it is a different side of him that doesn't line up with how he is in the show. It's the difference between an ineffectual villain and one that actually has harmed people.
Never doubt a microscopic creature's desire to get the formuler, I suppose.
I wouldn't say Plankton was Flanderized, but his personality did receive a pretty drastic change. He started out in episodes like "Plankton!" and "Walking Small" as being malicious and aggressive. He felt like a villain you could take seriously, which made it all the funnier when he gets defeated in simple and silly ways. He went to college!
A far cry from the character who constantly sobs about being a failure and giggles like a toddler while playing toys from a kids meal. One could say he's become less of a one-note villain character, but I think they went too far to try to make Plankton sympathetic.
Plankton is my favorite character it has actually come to the point where I actually want him to successfully learn how to make krabby patties.
This is an interesting theory! I never really thought about how 1 note Plankton seems to be, which ironically makes it easy for his character to not be flanderized.
Yeah I mean think about it his character never got complex enough for flanderisation to be possible unless you were trying to ruin plankton
For Gary his character didn't really get ruined or changed that much, the problem is that some of the post-movie episodes of spongebob use him in a plot that's already flawed or doesn't work. The problem isn't really over-exposure. They're just not using him in a good way, for example episodes like the cent of money and pet sitter pat have him suffer throughout the entire episode. It's more of a writing issue. In that sense plankton has suffered from the same issue because one coarse meal is basically plankton getting mentally tormented even at the end.
How about this for a Square Theory? What would've happened if SpongeBob ended after the first movie? Also, Does Paul Tibet deserve the Blame for SpongeBob's decline?
Wow, both really good ideas
Patrick Brough Thanks.
+Jonny Boy
First one isn't too interesting of an idea. Shows tend to end in the same way: air the final episode, show re-runs for a while depending on how popular the series still is (in Spongebob's case, it'd probably last a good couple of months *maybe* a year), and finally re-boot it in the mid-to-late 2010s to cash in on nostalgia trends.
whiz 85 yes, but that's your opinion, I agree with you that there is a chance that it could've rebooted/remade, but what would happen to the actual Nickelodeon, or Fairly OddParents, or everyone on UA-cam that talks about SpongeBob, and it's decline (PieGuyRulz, MrEnter, SBells27, Jem Reviews, Avis Reviews, Valskibum94, me, and so much more)?, and I think PieGuy will really be good at explaining that.
whiz 85 Maybe it would've ended up like shows like Jimmy Neutron where people would have petions begging for Nick to bring the show back, Nick would've had Adventure Time and not Cartoon Network, it would've had less haters, Cartoon Network would've been shut down, and Nickelodeon would've been taking more risks like Cartoon Network. But, that's just my theory.
I think Plankton has some really funny episode after the movie, keeping it simple can help a character. I was thinking you should do a video talking about flanderization and how it can be done, Gumball is a good example of that.
Funny enough, since Sponge out of Water is a prequel to the first movie, at one point Plankton says, "with that formula, I can rule the world!!" Directly foreshadowing what happens in the first movie
Hadn't thought of that, you're right!
I think it's because Plankton is a bad guy, you can't ruin a bad guy's character too much when all they want is the Krabby Patty formula. Also your hat is great!
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Certain episode card: **Whistles innocently while sneaking in**
Me: Hey! It's not time for you yet, back to the archives!
Certain Episode: You can't run from the truth!
You also can't run from my internet scissors! ✂️
Certain Episode: AHHHH! **Swoops back**
I would say One Coarse Meal is a bad Plankton episode, HOWEVER, he's in character during the episode and is merely reacting to all of the horrible things around him. Yes, him planning to kill himself in the end is horrid and an extreme the show should never get to, but, again, it's only a reaction to what he's been forced to deal with.
Plankton is my #1 Spongebob character. I think he even got better in the new episodes.I also like when he helps out the characters like in "Mimic madness" or "House worming" Episode. He's also damn funny. IDK how he got better tho. Seems really weird.
"Come on! I want to see some distruction!"
Sees Chum Bucket exploded
".... I think i've seen enough..."
I think one of the reasons why Plankton has fared the best in the post-movie episodes is that even though he still has the same goal he has had since day one, the writers are still able to add some variety to it decently well. Season 4 has some great examples, like Plankton trying to sue Mr. Krabs in "Krabs vs. Plankton" and trying to get the formula through Mrs. Krabs like in "Enemy in Law." A big part of what makes the Plankton episodes work is in the creativity of his plans and how they get foiled.
Then again, there were several rehashes of "Imitation Krabs", such as "Someone's in the Kitchen With Sandy" and "Gramma's Secret Recipe".
2:15 Foreshadowing for 9B!
I saw that too!
P0CK3TB00K e
judging by Company Picnic, he might doesn't like it
Plankton is my #1 favourite Spongebob character and I'm so happy that he actually developed as the years went by, maybe not much, but at least we know more about his life and his complex personality.
2:17 Hmm I wonder what that little piece of rectangle with word "Company" means....
Wink Wink
Hey Pieguy, here's an idea for a future Square Theory: How are SpongeBob, Squidward, and Patrick able to afford the lives they live? Here's why: SpongeBob and Squidward both work for the Krusty Krab, so we can put a pretty safe bet down that they're both working a minimum wage job. Patrick doesn't even have a job, and while he says in "The Card" that he has a landlord, he clearly established in "Home Sweet Pineapple," "... I built my house all by myself!"
I think we're getting close to the 9B review,cause at one point the word "company" poped up below the "Evil Spatula" slide. Hopefully this means sometime in the future we'll get to the 9B review,and Pieguy can get started on the review for Season 10 of SpongeBob because it seems like it'll be over in several months and the fact that it seems to be the shortest season for SpongeBob.
*A L L H A I L P L A N K T O N*
I’m a goofy goober!
And this is why Plankton is my favorite character.
@PIEGUYRULZ Hey, I know it may be a bit off topic, but I was thinking about spongebob when I remembered your channel and was wondering if you could answer me something. Is Squidward truly bad at playing the clarinet? I know the fact that him sounding poorly is a common joke, but on several occasions there have been moments where Squidward would play really well for a while only for something to get in the way and he's suddenly "bad" again. The episode that made me wonder this was the one where Squidward became giant and Spongebob and Patrick made him a kelp mache clarinet. When he tried it Squidward played very well, and if I remember correctly he noticed how good it sounded. This realization of how good it sounded shows me that Squidward has changed nothing about how he plays and it just so happened to sound better. I also have faint memories of this happening at other times and it got me thinking that Squidward's normal clarinet just might be broken somehow.
I agree with you that in the first movie, Plankton does seem too evil. He’s shown to care about Krabs, being his former friend, that in the subsequent two movies when Plankton got the formula, he returned it to Krabs in the second movie and actually didn’t read it in the third movie because he was so surprised that Krabs was so depressed that he just gave Plankton the formula.
It's Ironic that the Main Villain is more likable that the other main characters WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE HEROES OF THE SNOW
In my opinion Plankton's worst episodes are ones where they haphazardly shove him in to cause conflict, namely SpongeBob's Last Stand or Buried in Time
I think the reason why Plankton doesn't have too many bad appearances is pretty much because of what you had mentioned: he's the villain. He plays a good villain in the show, (and even in the movies IMO) and because of that, the expectation of his morality is set at such a low bar that he can almost anything he does can be portrayed really well. When he does something likeable, it's a nice change of pace and atmosphere. When he does something evil, it's to be expected.
In all honesty, I personally think his worst appearance was in the episode, "Salsa Imbecilicus," (even though I personally like that episode) and that's only because Plankton's plan was so dumb, it was way out of character for him to try that. Sure, he's had stupid plans before, but most of them were just poorly chosen escape routes, not planning things the whole way through, or relying on dumb circumstances. His plan in Salsa Imbecilicus is not only a combination of all 3, but he barely even seemed like he was even trying. In all honesty, if it wasn't for how funny I thought the extreme stupidity of the Bikini Bottomites was, and how great of a team Sandy and Karen make, I probably would hate this episode as much as PieGuyRulez does. It's those two crucial parts, though, that change my overall opinion on the episode altogether. That doesn't change, though, how terrible Plankton's character was in this episode.
I think the episode "One Course Meal" is definitely his worst episode.
It's easy to point out all of the out of character portrayals from the cast do to the bad writing but despite this, Plankton does seem to be the only character who hasn't been effected by this as you've pointed out.
It's an interesting observation.
Kelleric Longstar That episode was not a problem with Plankton though, it was mainly Krabs & Spongebob.
Russell Hunter But you know an episode is bad when you find yourself rooting for the bad guy.
Kelleric Longstar That's true.
plankton isn't a bad guy in that episode in fact he's the one who gets tortured throughout the episode and you just feel sorry for him
Sean S that's what I was trying to say.
The best Spongebob character is clearly and has always been Larry the Lobster... XD
He’s been my least favorite. He seems more like a jerk that has the best intentions for everyone but can’t pull it off right
I feel like Plankton has been in bad episodes, but I don't think that he's ever been the cause of a bad episode. In my opinion Plankton usually has a good performance either because he's well-written or his voice acting is good, despite him being present in some bad episodes.
He comes to save the day with his presence. Bad episode? Boom, take some Plankton to make you feel good for a little while.
1:43 but plankton has always wanted to take over the world ever since the episode F.U.N. and Snowball Effect
It's kinda cool how you put the bubble transition on jumpcuts
Sheldon!
And after thinking about it, the worst Plankton episode is Gramma's Secret Recipe from season 7. Nothing of worth happens and I don’t get how Plankton thought pretending to be SpongeBob’s grandma to get the formula was a good idea
2:14 Company Picnic!
you know I have a theory as to why plankton has not been flanderrized, it seems to me that plankton is often so over the top that with the exception of One Course Meal it is hard to get out of charter.
you deserve more subs
Why? We're a nice, little, close-knit fanbase!
I adore modern Plankton! He is sooooooo cute! I feel so sorry for him...I just wanna cuddle him! Take that Krabs!
Uh, maybe Plankton was never ruined because he's the villain of the show? It's hard to ruin somebody who's already supposed to be evil.
Yeah I SEE YOU THERE COMPANY PICNIC! YOU GET OUT OF HERE!
It heard me and left. *Laughs
Both Plankton and Mr Crocker from Fairly Oddparents started out as minior villains before becoming the shows Big Bads
We now Know Company Picnic is not going to get a good
Plankton was such as a game changer in the movie..
I love his first episode named after him. I was so excited because I knew that there was a lot of potential in plankton. There still is because they haven’t focused too much on his complexity
Love your video
How's this for a Square Theory? Why are there so many Spongebob Memes?
i saw company picnic where u talked about sweet and sour squid
This is how fans feel with Spongebob now
Mr Krabs = Goku
Plankton = Vegeta
dude, when is season 9B review come out? I seen the Company Picnic teaser
oh, ok thanks :)
who saw the company picnic tittle thing?
NP
Spongebob Facts And more might be a meh idk
Hey Pieguyrulez, How Do You Feel About A "SpongeBob" Episode Where Pearl Goes To "Boating School"? Since Pearl Is A Teenager, It Makes Perfect Sense That She Is About To Get Her Driver's Liscense, & I Also Feel Like There's A Lot You Could Do With Pearl & Mrs Puff Interacting.
You can’t really simplify a single celled organism....Plankton are single celled aren’t they?
Pieguy, PLEASE review the icarly/victorious crossover
Boy, I am so excited for 9B.
2:15 teaser for the the season 9B review
How about a square theory on why do people think Spongebob has the worst season rot if there are other shows whose seasonal rot are much much worse Like Fairly Oddparents and Family Guy?
Okay this may be a difficult one but could you by any chance (using shit revealed in the show, things said by people involved, and stuff released by Nickolodeon) analyze the krabby patty itself
Maybe even come up with the closest thing possible to the krabby patty formula)
Finally! A Plankton ST!
yeeee
Only a few videos and already used to the "pie" glasses.
(See what I did there? Pie, eye? Okay...)
Spongebob is storyboard driven, so usually whoever works on the storyboard has a bigger impact than the writers
was It became script driven after Sponge Out of Water
In Square Roots: The Story of SpongeBob SquarePants they mention that it was a storyboard driven show. It's kinda weird how they changed
That would explain how it’s been trash after the movie
It helps that Doug Lawrence is a great guy :)
How about a SpongeBob top 5 list of famous people that you want to see guest star in SpongeBob?
Honestly I never thought sandy's character was ruined. I kinda like the science approach they took with her, instead of making her feel like a typical southern character. And yeah she had the whole karate thing going too and I like that but her being a scientist seemed really creative considering she's from Texas. When you think of someone from Texas, you don't think that.
then that means Sandy was Flanderized?
His only bad appearance was in ''Walking the Plankton''
One Coarse Meal and the first movie were pretty bad appearances too
One Coarse Meal isn't bad on his part, though.
andykishore Opinions. I personally like the episode, but I don't like how Plankton is portrayed
TriForce Hero He was actually pretty likable in OCM
I know, but he acted helpless, not fiesty and hammy like usual
you can't really flanderize something when they were static in the first place.
Why is Squidward your Favorite along with SpongeBob and Plankton?
You should make your avatar with facial hair
Completely agree. I've been thinking about that as well. All the characters went downhill after the first movie, but they became even worse after the second. Spongebob is too much of a goody goody, Patrick is too stupid to be funny, Squidward overreacts to everything, Mr. Krabs is greedier and jerkier than ever before, and Sandy is just soooo annoying. Plankton is the only character to be just as good as he used to be
Who else noticed Company Picnic pop up? XD
I have an interesting yet very sad square theory proposal should Spongebob get cancelled with the potential passing of Hillenburg? In case you don't know hillenburg has been diagnosed with ALS and this disease has no cure and people will live between 2-5 years. I think they should especially if that's what he wants. We know that he wanted the show to end after the first movie so he might take this situation and tell Nick to cancel once and for all.
You cant flanderize Mustache McBadguys.
The episodes in season 10 are a bit crazy and extreme don't you think? Also, FIRST!
I agree. I watched one episode to test it and i was shocked how insane it was.
I like the new crazy style tbh
NAK I agree but they also made me laugh. They brought back the old writers from Seasons 1-3 and you can tell. The episodes are very creative and it seems like they have listened to some of the criticism they've gotten. Like Patrick is way less of a jerk and more caring to his friends.
I got the opportunity to watch all Season 10 episodes 2 days ago and I really liked the new style and i got an old school Spongebob vibe as i watched the episodes.
I COMMAND YOU TO HELP ME BE A NICER PERSON!
what about one coarse meal?
I really like your hat.
Seems like they just used plankton as plot filler in the later seasons
am i the only one who wishes they never saw Pieguys face.
PieGiy! I can't believe you said the M-S word! I thought this channel was supposed to be PG!
Do you just suddenly jump back and forth between being PG and R!? Is that why those are your initials, is that why!?
What time was it?
5:47
+Skeleward Hahaha I lolled pretty hard. Thank you.
+PIEGUYRULZ You're welcome, and thank YOU! It's nice to know I was able to make one of my favorite UA-camrs lol out loud. :D
+NOOB playz games Is a joke.
When are you gonna do season 9b of SpongeBob
be patient, watch his behind the scenes vid and you will understand it takes time
I have to agree Company Picnic is one of the weaker season 9b episodes (of course nothing as bad as seasons 6 and 7) but definitely not as interesting as other episodes in that line up. But the slow motion scene is hilarious.
It feels more like a meh episode from the first halve of season 9.
I thought you meant bankrupt, you know, "I"M RUINED!!!!"
How about a Square Theory on Karen's redesign? Is it worth it or not?
Bring back the karate Texas squirrel, goddammit!
Sandy has been changed too much
Here's another auestion: why has Plankton's height change?
It always surprises me how little the writers care about contenuity
Happy may 1st!
Er um... Lip smack lip smack...
Whens 9b coming out?
Maybe in may
Company Picnic Easter egg
For me, Plankton seems less like a nagging elderly husband and resembles more of a kind of abusive husband.
MEAN SPIRITED
It's hard to flanderize a villain. If you make them more unlikable, you're just adding to their villainy and it works out anyway.
Oh wow, your eyebrows are like in your cartoon version
I'd like to see a finale where SpongeBob fails his drivers test again, with Mrs. Puff going over the line with the insults for once. Plankton tricks him along the ways, and turns SpongeBob into being very mean/evil to everybody along the ways (including Squidward, with him actually sticking it to Squidward for once).