M60A2 vs Leopard 1A5 - Tank Versus #4

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @CprlTeaman
    @CprlTeaman 2 роки тому +465

    If that Leo was at all competent it would’ve had that easily

    • @n1co2017
      @n1co2017 2 роки тому +30

      same could be said about the starship tho i would probably put my bets on the 1a5 in a non scripted battle if both players are at an equal skill level.

    • @botondkalocsai5322
      @botondkalocsai5322 2 роки тому +19

      Well, in stationary hull-down engagements the Starship is consistently superior due to its indirect fire capabilities. In any other case, the Leopard is superior.
      The reason why the Gaijin judged the Starship to be "better" is because they clearly assumed that stationary hull-down engagements are the overwhelming majority.
      Personally I expected that the Leopard wins out due to the thermal sight that allows him to spot the starship far earlier the Starship the Leopard.
      Nevertheless, Gaijin has a point in overemphasising the indirect fire capability because on a large terrain where there is a plentiful hull-down cover, a well-organised Starship army can always win against a well-organised Leopard army simply because the Starships can kill a hull-down hidden Leopard meanwhile the leopard cannot kill a similarly hidden starship.
      The only exception is when some Leopards can infiltrate or flank the frontline which rather characterises the competence of the Starship crew then the vehicle itself.

    • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
      @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 2 роки тому +6

      That wouldn’t be realistic to a German player tho

    • @tamas7586
      @tamas7586 2 роки тому +3

      Germany suffers

    • @jnievele
      @jnievele 2 роки тому

      If the Starship had been portrayed realistically the gun-launcher and fire control would fail every few shots requiring a day of repairs...

  • @TheSovietWombat
    @TheSovietWombat 2 роки тому +743

    The moment you realise that this is staged so who ever wins is who ever gaijin wants to win

    • @Nero-dz5gr
      @Nero-dz5gr 2 роки тому +69

      "Truth is ... the game was rigged from the start"
      -Benny

    • @speessmallchannel
      @speessmallchannel 2 роки тому +8

      So you're implying the Khrizanthema will win next week? 💀💀

    • @turo3131
      @turo3131 2 роки тому +23

      bruh, you think that they just put two gaijin employees (brain damaged) against each other?

    • @fagalon9152
      @fagalon9152 2 роки тому +3

      I think these are just made for viewer entertainment at this point

    • @ycy_ROCTW
      @ycy_ROCTW 2 роки тому +4

      You ought to realize that when you see Breda501 didn't use HE when meeting the flak88

  • @galaxlordcz3933
    @galaxlordcz3933 2 роки тому +320

    Ah yes, the sad 8.0 ATGM carrier, vs the 9.0 MBT, I wonder who'll win.

  • @rrrriajiii
    @rrrriajiii 2 роки тому +68

    I swear I got killed by a BT-5/7 a lot more often than M60A2 in my Leo 1A1/1A5

  • @easy_eight2810
    @easy_eight2810 2 роки тому +115

    Whoever wrote this script was obviously trolling knowing these narrators have never played high tier their entire lives 💀

  • @yoshiegg95
    @yoshiegg95 2 роки тому +254

    This format is a joke at times, the Leo should by all means win this easily. But I guess this means we can swap their BRs if you think otherwise huh?

    • @Infinity_Squad
      @Infinity_Squad 2 роки тому +8

      This is an outrageous, Leo obviously shouldn't be at 9.0

    • @yoshiegg95
      @yoshiegg95 2 роки тому +4

      @@Infinity_Squad obviously it doesn't, I just wanted to undermine the absurdity of this episode

    • @Eire_Aontaithe
      @Eire_Aontaithe 2 роки тому

      I think y'all take this show too seriously...

    • @ishuikamakura272
      @ishuikamakura272 2 роки тому

      @@Eire_Aontaithe they are, they are just a bunch sweaty gameds

    • @A_Person679
      @A_Person679 10 місяців тому

      @@ishuikamakura272 I agree with you

  • @minerkosk9786
    @minerkosk9786 2 роки тому +197

    Imagine the one of the worst 8.0 tanks winning against one of the Best 9.0 tanks thats what i call the skill issue

    • @txni.040
      @txni.040 2 роки тому +16

      More like staged

    • @gigachad8425
      @gigachad8425 2 роки тому +7

      @@txni.040 bro they take random players that want to participate XD its not possible to have same skill

    • @txni.040
      @txni.040 2 роки тому

      @@gigachad8425 I was just joking😅

    • @jackmcguinn9643
      @jackmcguinn9643 2 роки тому +2

      Well the M60A2 is definitely one of the best 8.0, I have it and I average 3 kills at the least with it, very exceptionally good tank

    • @justarandomtechpriest1578
      @justarandomtechpriest1578 2 роки тому +4

      @@jackmcguinn9643 no it isn't
      Your just good at the game

  • @concretehill4204
    @concretehill4204 2 роки тому +102

    The Leo 1A5 should've definitely won that one, it's Thermals, and Sabot are obviously superior to the starships low muzzle velocity, and lack on thermals.

    • @_bot_2762
      @_bot_2762 2 роки тому

      Even got a big boy apfsds 💀

  • @UltimateRaindrop
    @UltimateRaindrop 2 роки тому +86

    What is the point of comparing the slowest POS supposed ATGM carrier with a thermals equipped, fast MBT with APFSDS at a whole BR above it? You would have made a decent point if you took the M60A3 instead of the M60A2, and come to the conclusion that the M60A3 should be down-BR'd as it is much less reliable than the Leopard 1A5 while at the same BR.

    • @kocayrklibirinsan3056
      @kocayrklibirinsan3056 2 роки тому +5

      they should just do these comparison if oppennent vehicles have same BRs both.

    • @ToxapeTV
      @ToxapeTV 2 роки тому +3

      @@kocayrklibirinsan3056 I don't understand how this is not a strict requirement...

    • @scorpionkiller19
      @scorpionkiller19 2 роки тому

      That reminds me of when they compared the t-72 and m1 Abrams. The Abrams lost in every category but reverse speed being unable to pen the t-72 and saying it is easily penned by the t-72 .And then they called the match unfair because the abrams is 10.0 and the t-72 is 9.3 so they did it again vs a better soviet tank and it won too

  • @deadstop4434
    @deadstop4434 2 роки тому +12

    I don’t think I have ever been killed by a starshit in any vehicle let alone a 1a5

  • @FillyCheesteak
    @FillyCheesteak 2 роки тому +24

    Speedy APFSDS slinger with Thermals and LR vs. Explosive Watermelon launcher whose top speed is also that of an elephant. Not very fast.

  • @snazzydazzy
    @snazzydazzy 2 роки тому +50

    This feels like I'm comparing a German transmission from 2020 to an American Transmission from 1917.

  • @Kushothe
    @Kushothe 2 роки тому +5

    Whoever is responsible for this show seems to not have any idea about anything whatsoever.
    Ya'll really like to get carried away.

  • @maral2014
    @maral2014 2 роки тому +3

    "When the people making the video have never played the game..."

  • @potatoinashoe9495
    @potatoinashoe9495 2 роки тому +5

    This video perfectly displays that Gaijin have no idea what's going on in their own game.

  • @awizor
    @awizor 2 роки тому +33

    Leo 1 represents perfectly a typical german main. Not even surprised why Straship won.

  • @Supajack831
    @Supajack831 2 роки тому +2

    I love tanks but Helicopter modes need some love.
    My wish list for helicopters- to make it fun again!!!
    1- Add utility/ transport helis
    Utility helis need to have infil and exfil objectives throughout the map in which AI ground troops attack objectives and need to be picked up to conduct air assaults on subsequent objectives. Also enables Medevac objectives back to friendly lines/ landing zones/ field hospitals.
    2-Add light/recon helis- enemy convoys/ objectives are no longer randomly populated on the map, all enemy objectives must be discovered by these light/ recon helis (points for spot bonus). Other enemy units are discovered once they fire on players/friendly AI or when discovered by other players.
    3- bring back PVP in a separate mode- top tier players want it- give it to em
    4- allow utility helicopters to carry equipment and light vehicles (based on real world data) to support AI attacking objectives (think slingload operations light vehicles/ artillery.)
    5- bring in night missions! Also- rewards for NOE flying in combat conditions at night- will add another dimension of challenges for conducting these missions in the dark.
    6- Lastly add specific close air support objectives for the ground AI- (add points for providing CAS and not allowing the friendly AI to get wiped out will make players care about friendly AI

    • @Heretic2455
      @Heretic2455 Рік тому +1

      Gaijan is not gonna read ur Comment not even try your suggestion

  • @-FARKI
    @-FARKI 2 роки тому +5

    I've learnt that these videos are way more fun when you dont care for eighter of the vehicles to win!

  • @davenissly2518
    @davenissly2518 2 роки тому +18

    Why not the actual M60's at/around 9.0? Wouldve been a more interesting video

  • @dungeonslayer4692
    @dungeonslayer4692 2 роки тому +1

    Did you have children driving the Leopard? Totally decided even before the match began. 1st round, they just sat there waiting to be killed.

  • @josephstalin9298
    @josephstalin9298 2 роки тому +2

    A certified unbiased Gajing classic.

  • @ED-988
    @ED-988 2 роки тому +2

    Yes people, we see flashes from the other side of the map a dodge APFS coming your way.
    Please bring your 8.0 tank to a 8.7 battles.

  • @Jive-Gaming
    @Jive-Gaming 2 роки тому +2

    I’m only to spot that the smoke is from a previous update . It’s not the version of today. That mean that all the video are already prepare

  • @Orca19904
    @Orca19904 2 роки тому +1

    Too bad the real-life Starship was an over-engineered, unreliable mess that constantly kept breaking down.

  • @SquareHotShot
    @SquareHotShot 2 роки тому +13

    Why the hell would the starship use an HE round at that disntant

  • @nikkib1661
    @nikkib1661 2 роки тому +12

    What a bulls.... So this whole series is about who gets in fire position first and doesn't miss like a complete Dumbo. Tbh this show is nonsense, put the money into thundershow that's a lot better

  • @PNolandS
    @PNolandS 2 роки тому +2

    "Man you guys, the M60A2 is super OP, Gaijin better move it up in BR."
    Whatever completely incompetent Leopard player allows themselves to die to an M60A2

  • @redstoneking4677
    @redstoneking4677 2 роки тому +25

    Also great episode in my opinion the 1a5 is better at close quarter engagements in urban areas with more cover

    • @charlesleethesonandfathero14
      @charlesleethesonandfathero14 2 роки тому +4

      Can’t agree, Starship is made for close encounters while Leo is a sniper

    • @redstoneking4677
      @redstoneking4677 2 роки тому +1

      @@charlesleethesonandfathero14 guess so tho if the m60 misses the leo can technically have 2 shots on it but thats just my opinion

    • @qaterdargon4041
      @qaterdargon4041 2 роки тому

      M60A2 in this just had every environment it could perform better in except for 1 match all maps that it won allowed it to abuse poor ballistics

  • @StealthCloudchaser
    @StealthCloudchaser 2 роки тому +1

    This new series hurts my brain.

  • @HEATSEEKR
    @HEATSEEKR 2 роки тому +2

    They didn't my boi the starship wrong. They took away the upgraded transmission it had

  • @MUTSUGORO_
    @MUTSUGORO_ 2 роки тому +3

    WTでの単独行動は基本"見敵必殺""先手必勝"なので装甲をぶち抜ける弾があるなら後は操縦者の索敵力と運次第なのでは…((((

  • @vinncent_hater9521
    @vinncent_hater9521 2 роки тому +2

    Please do a tank versus of the L3 33 v the AMR.35 ZT3 which is a French version of the L3 essentially

  • @이상훈-o2f
    @이상훈-o2f 2 роки тому +1

    Meaning of this video: The Leopard 1A5 is a weaker than the M60A2, so I will REBALANCE.

  • @MatteonixITA
    @MatteonixITA 2 роки тому +4

    Would be better if it was something like the Type 74 (G) and Leopard 1A5

  • @GavinC.S
    @GavinC.S 2 роки тому +8

    I keep my promises to keep watching this type of videos Gaijin. I LOVED THIS so much!

  • @mikedav178
    @mikedav178 2 роки тому

    this would be an academic example of fake news in a university career

  • @commandergeokam2868
    @commandergeokam2868 2 роки тому +5

    The starship should have fought the amx 30 acra ,why it fought the leo ?

  • @zonda1317
    @zonda1317 2 роки тому +1

    This is ridiculous. I mean, if you have to choose between these two, I guess everyone’s answer is the Leopard.

  • @Jaco93
    @Jaco93 2 роки тому +2

    Do you guys even play the game, seriously? The Leo would own that fight

  • @agustinf1372
    @agustinf1372 2 роки тому +2

    They should do this with planes 1 vs 1 dogfights :)

  • @soroushshirin3364
    @soroushshirin3364 Рік тому

    That commentary was so exciting

  • @thesaltyapplewannabe5493
    @thesaltyapplewannabe5493 2 роки тому +1

    Tank versus is such a good concept but all 4 videos have been bad simply because of what they compare...

  • @captainhevy3665
    @captainhevy3665 2 роки тому +7

    This video is just as unnecessary as the addition of drones XDD

  • @am4deuss
    @am4deuss 2 роки тому

    Elon musk mustve pissed that starship is being blown up xD

  • @maliksaleem4242
    @maliksaleem4242 2 роки тому +1

    M60A2: we must stand for civil rights soldiers 👏

  • @f-r-i-d-z
    @f-r-i-d-z 2 роки тому +1

    bruh it looks like they let the AI drive the leopard in the 1st round

  • @chocolat-kun8689
    @chocolat-kun8689 2 роки тому +1

    It isn't even a good comparison. The starship role is way different from a fast reloading mbt. The better match up would be the 1A5 VS the AOS. But props to Gaijin for simulating how german players are.

  • @ronaldhui3663
    @ronaldhui3663 10 місяців тому

    Well done Gaijin for staging such an intense battle

  • @Maxthepro1012
    @Maxthepro1012 Рік тому

    Can you make a video of M1A2 SEP vs T-80 BVM

  • @TYROPITAgr
    @TYROPITAgr 2 роки тому +4

    Q:Will there ever be an update where it shows when the tank was produced?

    • @oshadow-hypixelandtutorial3781
      @oshadow-hypixelandtutorial3781 2 роки тому

      YES WE NEED THAT. like an

    • @TYROPITAgr
      @TYROPITAgr 2 роки тому

      @@oshadow-hypixelandtutorial3781 that's what im saying

    • @XavierBates
      @XavierBates 2 роки тому

      Also a symbol that shows what varient of vehicles that was most produced like the p51d5 or spitfire mkix

  • @jesselang9331
    @jesselang9331 2 роки тому

    This one had me enthralled, I seriously didn't know who would win :)

  • @golurkprime6489
    @golurkprime6489 2 роки тому

    Hello is there a Chans that the Bismarck will be added in the next update sense there has been no water base update

  • @Bathi_wt
    @Bathi_wt 2 роки тому +1

    you know you should do a thing like this to the fighter planes and jets also

    • @TheMeanLemon
      @TheMeanLemon 2 роки тому +2

      They'd make the me262 dogfight a spitfire and claim it should be lower in br

  • @policewilsowilso3950
    @policewilsowilso3950 2 роки тому +8

    Anyone else feel like this is biased and staged?

  • @cyberarchitect9280
    @cyberarchitect9280 2 роки тому +1

    This match wasn't fair enough and player with the Leopard did some mistakes. The usage of the machinegun againts the ATGM was nice. However the first match: this tank has a fantastic gun depression he should went to the fortress and try to snipe from there. Or as we saw the M60 starship was there so he can easly flank it. But let's say the first match was correct. It wasn't so obvious that the M60 is there. The 3rd match: i have one question. That wasn't a huge problem we can't see just the commanders cupola. If he use the correct ammunition it could hurt for the M60. Why the Leopard guy didn't just back up but manouver far from the M60 for example behind a hill, repair the tank and then go to fight. Second thing I saw gameplays from both, I tried both, but the Leopard1 is significantly better than the M60. Especially in longer ranges. And the Leopard player haven't use this advantage. To be honest I thought "Oh come on, long and mid ranges, the Leopard1A5 with the DM33 terminates that scrap into the ground" and then: short and mid range. What?! And please everyone be honest, because all of knows that the long 105mm gun is undoubtedly superrior to the tanks with such guns like the starship has. I smell a bit of American bias

  • @Michael-mm2zm
    @Michael-mm2zm 2 роки тому +1

    man, do I always look forward to seeing these awesome tank vs vids!

  • @123matthewbaker
    @123matthewbaker 2 роки тому +1

    I want to see jumbo 76 vs tiger 2p, please try and argue the jumbo is somehow better, I’d love to see you try xD

    • @TheMeanLemon
      @TheMeanLemon 2 роки тому

      They'd do it like to movie Fury tiger fires one shell and misses entirely and the jumbo fires 8 shells with unquestionable accuracy because the tiger loader had a stroke

  • @diegazo2529
    @diegazo2529 2 роки тому +1

    Nobody mentioning the cologne duel intro

  • @frankyu4387
    @frankyu4387 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent! Now, can we have our leopard move to BR 8.0?

  • @theyoinkster8064
    @theyoinkster8064 2 роки тому +1

    Why is the Starship even fighting the 1A5? It should be something at or around the 1A5s BR like the TTS or even the RISE (P)

  • @maplemike8496
    @maplemike8496 2 роки тому

    is the opening animation a nod to the battle of cologne?

  • @johnclement189
    @johnclement189 2 роки тому

    If I was that Starship, I would've just hide since there's no way im fighting a MBT that already knows where I am and since at this BR mostly have laser rangefinder and stabilizer, they can just cap me before my missile hits the enemy tank.

  • @wacky_duck1095
    @wacky_duck1095 2 роки тому +1

    Q: When will the people use their brains to make a balanced match?

  • @henryprickett8243
    @henryprickett8243 2 роки тому

    Can u add a Canadian tech tree? I just want to see the Avro arrow in game

  • @snowyfox_01
    @snowyfox_01 2 роки тому +1

    get 2 players of equal skill and face them off against each other, then base what you say off who wins. Scripting it feels unnatural and the fact that the STARSHIP of all things beat out a Leopard 1A5 is kinda sad. I know this is meant to just be fun and that we shouldn't care about what tank wins and all that, but it still feels rather odd to have quite possibly the WORST 8.0 tank in the game win against a 9.0 APFSDS slinger (with thermals, mind you)

  • @devilhanzo1
    @devilhanzo1 2 роки тому

    da merkt man wie intensiv ihr eurer Spiel spielt

  • @EBJJR
    @EBJJR 2 роки тому

    When are you adding the French Navy ?

  • @freeamericanempire4239
    @freeamericanempire4239 2 роки тому +4

    I love that the Female narrator's last name is Sherman

  • @williamhopkinson1799
    @williamhopkinson1799 2 роки тому

    It's not about the tank it's about the person playing the game

  • @P455w0rds
    @P455w0rds 2 роки тому +4

    Gaijin forgot to update the german flag... i don t think the national socialist party built the Leo 1A5 in ww2
    Very realistic

  • @matzedrizzi6222
    @matzedrizzi6222 2 роки тому

    The moment you realize this is so redundant 😂

  • @ellinecockburn2601
    @ellinecockburn2601 2 роки тому +1

    Q. can you do a tank versus between the rooikat 105 and the premium centuro love the show

  • @ei_had3098
    @ei_had3098 2 роки тому

    Now we need to see the obj 120 vs m60

  • @AJukes3132
    @AJukes3132 2 роки тому

    Next tank verus: the French FCM.36 vs. the Russian T-80BVM (the FCM.36 wins easily)

  • @christofferbonnet8127
    @christofferbonnet8127 2 роки тому

    Next one must be Strv 42/Eh against italian P40

  • @frazzle620
    @frazzle620 2 роки тому +1

    if this is the attempt to justify the downtier/uptier system, you've done it so badly.

  • @f-r-i-d-z
    @f-r-i-d-z Рік тому

    1st Why is the Leo just standing still out in the open?
    2nd The starship "looks around" while immediately stopping and turning the turret directly to the Leo.
    3rd Why does the leo move about 100 yards into OPEN ground with smoke to repair instead of moving behind the terrain to slow the Starship's time?

  • @markgregory983
    @markgregory983 2 роки тому

    Good old gaijin trolling us with the german player smoking to repair, and not move.

  • @wooeo9962
    @wooeo9962 2 роки тому

    lmao next your telling me gaijin is gonna compare the f86 against a mig 21 if they have a air version

  • @Sturmgechu
    @Sturmgechu 2 роки тому +1

    Despite reacting to an APFSDS round that fast, I can confirm, in game, this is accurate. I love the M60A2 and main germany and have had my fair share of kills in the 1A1. Unless on completely flat terrain, the starship has a large advantage, especially with its great turret armor and gun depression. Also the shillelagh looses its rocket boost after 500m and can be hard to see coming in even with thermals on. However, in real life, the M60A2 is know to be very complicated and faulty

  • @radosaworman7628
    @radosaworman7628 2 роки тому +1

    can we get remach for a19? you fugged up round selection!

  • @MrJigger28
    @MrJigger28 2 роки тому +2

    Hey gaijin,I think there should be a feature where you can reset your Tree,like if you go on USA and want to get a British jet,I think it should be like that,where you can reset the whole entire tree to go into another tree

    • @MrJigger28
      @MrJigger28 2 роки тому

      All I am saying is that we should be able to restart The treachery and put all the rp into a different treachery

  • @majb2022
    @majb2022 2 роки тому

    It would be more entertaining to face 2 recognized youtubers in the tanks of their choice from the same BR. Example, PhlyDaily vs. DOLLARplays or Hunter

    • @crad5476
      @crad5476 2 роки тому

      Why youtubers?

  • @patriacro30l46
    @patriacro30l46 2 роки тому

    Commentary gave me anexiety

  • @thm1940
    @thm1940 2 роки тому

    I feel that in the third round the Leo could've loaded a hesh round and hit the commanders cupola potentially causing an overpressure into the turret

  • @xapocotacox
    @xapocotacox 2 роки тому +1

    M60A1(AOS) vs T55A

  • @eQui253
    @eQui253 2 роки тому

    in Round one I knew the leopard would loose as I heard C ... u ignore C on this map

  • @paulwilliams4371
    @paulwilliams4371 2 роки тому +1

    tbh i love the starship but its not better than the 1a5

  • @Frot_Frot
    @Frot_Frot 2 роки тому +1

    It’s not like the starship has atgms or smth

  • @bushmann_
    @bushmann_ 2 роки тому

    old smoke graphics?

  • @jasonz2736
    @jasonz2736 2 роки тому +2

    GeMaNy SuFfErs

  • @HIFLY01
    @HIFLY01 2 роки тому +1

    Why wouldn't you compare the m60A3 with the era against the leopard? They're the same br and more similar than these 2. Then you could have really shown the strengths and weaknesses for each. One is faster with less armor and the other has era. Both have similar guns too unlike a 152 missile launcher vs a 105 shooting sabots

  • @danielprovin3855
    @danielprovin3855 2 роки тому +1

    And still the Leopard is the overall better vehicle

  • @Warmaster_24
    @Warmaster_24 2 роки тому +1

    Summary of the comment section: Wtf is the point of this series?

  • @ennio4277
    @ennio4277 2 роки тому +1

    I like how the whole video looks, its great, especially with the SloMo of the rounds flying, but i think the conclusion it isn‘t very meaningful cause its scripted

  • @Rozar-R
    @Rozar-R 2 роки тому

    ohhhh my god DM33 in 10 m have 408 km pan and still can't pan front armor of T72AV

  • @KrokLP
    @KrokLP 2 роки тому

    In Sim:
    Finland fights alongside the Red Army against the KV1B and finnish skin German T34 (that despite being finnish can't use finnish roundels anymore because they are restricted to Sweden only)
    Are you serious? And this after denying Finland being independent from Sweden last year?

  • @ismail62
    @ismail62 2 роки тому +1

    Can someone let me know how the aim adjusts automatically as soon as the range is found? All ik is I have manually adjust the aim.

    • @KageKrigeren
      @KageKrigeren 2 роки тому +2

      Laser range finders

    • @ismail62
      @ismail62 2 роки тому

      @@KageKrigeren Oh it's for those tanks br 8 or above huh. Thanks

  • @dew7025
    @dew7025 2 роки тому +2

    sturmtiger vs tankette

  • @PunttiSeta
    @PunttiSeta 2 роки тому +1

    most skill issue/staged fight ever