In game, the Breda is much better. Not only does it have better mobility than the flakbus, its gun is not obstructed by the front cabin, which gives it much easier to react to threats in close quarters. Realistically, the Breda in the first match would hit the engine or the driver of the flakbus to make it instantly stop and then load an HE while reversing a little to the corner as the Flakbus won't be able to shoot due to the building to the side obstructing its gun. Only time I see the flakbus winning is when it has a good long range sniping spot from where it can make use of its rangefinder to take out targets from afar.
well, I always use an HE round on the 88 unless I have to shoot quick then switch. Thats if I survive a return shot from an 8.8 but still the Breda HE round doesn't usually one shot the 8.8
Interesting how in the second match, the Breda fired like 3 seconds before getting hit yet it did not manage to load another round while the Flak 88 took half a year to drive out and shoot twice?
2:11 I feel personally attacked for this segment as this is normally how I played this map. Charge to the motorway and then try and shoot the enemy when crossing the road
@@rebelblade7159 I expected the breda to flank and not to wait until the flak 37 can turn and point its gun on it. These 1 vs 1 feel pretty staged if you ask me
@@rebelblade7159 It usually takes 3 rounds for the Breda to take out the 8.8. Even if you take out the gun crew it still "manages" to keep shooting?????
@@charlesvanacore5416 the gunner is on the right side of the gun (left if you're looking from the front) and so the Breda couldn't kill the gunner, as well as the shot didn't hit the gun shield, so it didn't kill the entire crew. Verdict: skill issue from the Breda
You know thats pretty easy to do in game but….When its 1 v 1 people its far easier to find out people locations. The 88 flak just so happen to be facing the way the Breda was going every time. Not to mention the Breda was smarter to approach the Flak truck directly from the front because of the cabin that prevents the 88 flak to aim well from the front.
@@striker8696 i know, but i personally think that gaijin didn't used really its mobility, the major characteristic of the breda, they have same gun capacity, almost same reload, the same armour layout, same crew amount, they are pretty similar, but the main point of the flak 37 is a long range tank destroyer, his gun its easier to aim, he can't brawl well because of his mobility, and the breda is a fast tank destroyer, that its not good at killing enemies from afar, but really good at flanking enemies, the tests that they made in the video don't show any of this characteristics, its like comparing if a tiger 1 is better than a jumbo, one is a good brawler and one is a good sniper Every tank has a unique play stile, thats why its wrong to make these comparisons
I have to agree with these comments that this is clearly a fake stage act. I have played both vehicles and the Breda is far superior and would of just ammo racked the Flakbus by flanking or when it was angeling in that second match. The Breda is great for shooting and scooting or surprise attacks and would never charge the open unless there was a window for it. Please note the Breda got ammo racked yet I see the Flakbus getting ammo racked more of the time. And why are the side panels in the up position? *Gaijin*- "How can we play on the stereotype that Italian vehicles are worse than other vehicles and also make the Germans seem supreme?" *Also Gaijin*- "Let's make a fake match of two popular vehicles and treat it as fact!"
I played 700 matches with the Breda, I've got ammo racked Only 10 or 20 times in that 700 matches, with the Breda I always die or complete a match with a ratio of 1 death to 4-7 kills. The Breda would've won every match easy
I personally think the Breda is good as a Hit and Run Vehicle Using its superior Mobility to fire and move to another position with ease It's gun is good enough to take out most targets, and when set up in a ambush position, you'll do quite well
The Breda is so fantastic when played safely. Driving out in the open is the last thing to do with it. It is best in urban combat so long as one plans around remaining mobile, and having an escape plan into cover always at the ready. It thrives as a sniper too because the AP rounds are devastating, and the reload with a full crew is very fast. Main downside is it has zero defense from CAS. Honorable mention downside is crew replenishment will give you a rear gunner rather than a commander or loader (which is absolutely stupid but whatever). I think it is balanced well being placed at 4.0
gotta love how the breda's speed was just thrown away, not allowing it to use it to it's advantage. Speed is not an advantage when you just use it to rush head first into the enemy
In my experience the Breda can actually be rather quiet when approaching at slower speeds I’ve caught many people of guard doing this. I don’t know if they changed this as I haven’t played the Breda in sometime but I noticed the engine only gets loud when going full speed.
I mean,in the first round the first shot of the Breda is... Not in my mind to shoot that thing in that place. Second round, what the f Breda waiting for a second shot?
I thought it was more like comparing stats and performance. Having two similiar vehicles fight each other makes no sense o_O The Bredas mobility and forward gun depression makes it far more effective in-game...
I do not really like this series. In my opinion it just does a bad job at comparing the vehicles, it does not really show strengths and weaknesses, it is just basicly showing gameplay situations that to be fair could have gone either way. This showdown especially is a bad example, those are both lightly armored SPG with great firepower, with the purpose to be good against enemy armor, but by just letting them face eachother like this they can not really show what they are meant to do.
Breda would have won that first round if it would have shot the weapon system first. Disabling the gun or knocking out the gunner would have given the Breda enough time to reload and reposition to shoot those very vulnerable ammo boxes on the rear of the German vehicle. That was more of an example of a rookie crew getting its ass handed to it than anything else.
In a urban world, the Breda could easily loop around the flak88 but most flak88’s don’t push into areas they can’t control easily. I would agree the Breda is no match for the 88flak but it does have mobility which can leave the 88 on it’s toes on where it will pop out.
Q: can you animate loaders on open top vehicles? For example the Spj fm/43-44 it would be cool seeing the loader loading a shell, also another example could be the m901, you could see the loader loading atgms in the gun
Oh yeah because if it wins three times in a row with the enemy using the wrong shell then the flakbus is tooootally better obviously Sarcasm for those who didn't get it (there are those people out there you know)
The Breda is one of my favorite vehicles in W/T because it gives you a buffer against the up tier. Unfortunately, it's bait for suicide strafing planes. I lose more Breda's to suicide diving planes then to other ground vehicles making it frustrating to play. WHEN IS W/T GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. Players complain about it all the time but crickets from W/T.
As a breda enjoyer (~1600 kills and ~650 deaths) i can probably say that this thing aint true, i usually end getting 4-10 kills on avarage with at least 1-2 flakbusses back to the hangar. But they are wehrabos isnt it? Just give them the victory so you get more money spent on your game gaijin.
Honestly I think that the next Tank Versus will be good, both are decent tanks for their BR. I am a Britain fan but got to admit the Soviets knew what they were doing.
Breda: bigger caliber, better mobility, better gun depression all around and has two machine guns in the back that actually saved me two times, despite the awkward placement.
I enjoy both. but both are for opposite playstyles. The breda is a great for rushing to a forwards position to ambush tanks deep into the map. A shoot and scoot. Meanwhile the flakbus, especially with the rangfinder now, is a great long range sniper. it doesn't have speed to rush in deep, but it has a fast reload and a range finder. You can easily control large open sections of a map with the flakbus. Both suffer once you annoy the enemy team and they just strafe you though.
A lot of people actually don’t realize that this show is not about what Vehicle is better in all situations. Its a 1v1 scenario. I expected the flak bus to win simply because if its better survivability because of the separated crew member. Not to mention it has a better fire rate and a more sable firing platform.
The breda would have won the first round for sure. Survivability doesnt play a role in it, since the breda could have shot the cabin stopping the flakbus, then finished it off with he or by flanking, while the flakbus cant even shoot back. In the second round, there was no reason for the breda to go out in the open and be volnurable. So its clearly not a fair 1v1 scenario.
Gaijin we know you don't like Italy....but name one sane player who would agree with this. The breda is great the flak bus is a potato. Sure the Italian has slightly worse gun in theory but with mobility.
I only ask Why you use the old version of the breda. The new one is more usefull! Also i dont understand Why, in the first match, the "player" aimed for the engine... always aim for the gun. At least the break win the first match in this way
I was really excited to get the Flak-Truk but was sorely disappointed. I feel the only way to effectively use it is downhill, at the base of a large hill or from incredibly far away which isn't as fun as say
In game, the Breda is much better. Not only does it have better mobility than the flakbus, its gun is not obstructed by the front cabin, which gives it much easier to react to threats in close quarters. Realistically, the Breda in the first match would hit the engine or the driver of the flakbus to make it instantly stop and then load an HE while reversing a little to the corner as the Flakbus won't be able to shoot due to the building to the side obstructing its gun. Only time I see the flakbus winning is when it has a good long range sniping spot from where it can make use of its rangefinder to take out targets from afar.
@@blameb3659 But he is actually right about yhis
@@blameb3659 ratio
And at longer ranges the breda is really hard to hit when moving fast. Its clearly the better vehicle
yeah breda is simply better
@@-FARKI since when were talking about long range moving
its about sniping
Guys you know that you both have an HE shell that would knock your opponent out with one round.
They are like 80% of the playerbase... total noobs
well, I always use an HE round on the 88 unless I have to shoot quick then switch. Thats if I survive a return shot from an 8.8 but still the Breda HE round doesn't usually one shot the 8.8
Yeah but no one really has HE loaded as their primary shell in those vehicles.
@@gordonramsay6210 only time i see somebody use he is for the memes or stock grind Russia or China top tier and not wanting heat
@@shikikanaz4624 I always bring 5 HE shells.. idk why no one else does.
Interesting how in the second match, the Breda fired like 3 seconds before getting hit yet it did not manage to load another round while the Flak 88 took half a year to drive out and shoot twice?
Exactly what I thought!
Might I add who even shoots on the move at distance anyways
Gajin momento
Maybe sounds like a „loader unconsions“ and reloads again lol
Gaijan wanted the flak to win tbh
''totally unbiased series''
Ofc it’s the Breda wins for normal matches
"completely unbiased"
*decides the second round by a missed shell*
2:11 I feel personally attacked for this segment as this is normally how I played this map. Charge to the motorway and then try and shoot the enemy when crossing the road
i get more kills when doing that lol
Pretty strange that the breda lost
Yeah, I expected a 2-1 win for the Breda with 3 rounds.
@@rebelblade7159 I expected the breda to flank and not to wait until the flak 37 can turn and point its gun on it. These 1 vs 1 feel pretty staged if you ask me
@@rebelblade7159 It usually takes 3 rounds for the Breda to take out the 8.8. Even if you take out the gun crew it still "manages" to keep shooting?????
@@charlesvanacore5416 the gunner is on the right side of the gun (left if you're looking from the front) and so the Breda couldn't kill the gunner, as well as the shot didn't hit the gun shield, so it didn't kill the entire crew. Verdict: skill issue from the Breda
@@otaviom6480 when it turned around the corner, he could shoot its engine, and set it on fire.. it could do so many things...
the breda is a fast vehicle that have great mobility and can flank targets, it will never face an enemy from the front
gaijin: what?
You know thats pretty easy to do in game but….When its 1 v 1 people its far easier to find out people locations. The 88 flak just so happen to be facing the way the Breda was going every time. Not to mention the Breda was smarter to approach the Flak truck directly from the front because of the cabin that prevents the 88 flak to aim well from the front.
@@striker8696 i know, but i personally think that gaijin didn't used really its mobility, the major characteristic of the breda, they have same gun capacity, almost same reload, the same armour layout, same crew amount, they are pretty similar, but the main point of the flak 37 is a long range tank destroyer, his gun its easier to aim, he can't brawl well because of his mobility, and the breda is a fast tank destroyer, that its not good at killing enemies from afar, but really good at flanking enemies, the tests that they made in the video don't show any of this characteristics, its like comparing if a tiger 1 is better than a jumbo, one is a good brawler and one is a good sniper
Every tank has a unique play stile, thats why its wrong to make these comparisons
Breda 501 will own the Flak any day of the week in game
I have to agree with these comments that this is clearly a fake stage act. I have played both vehicles and the Breda is far superior and would of just ammo racked the Flakbus by flanking or when it was angeling in that second match. The Breda is great for shooting and scooting or surprise attacks and would never charge the open unless there was a window for it.
Please note the Breda got ammo racked yet I see the Flakbus getting ammo racked more of the time. And why are the side panels in the up position?
*Gaijin*- "How can we play on the stereotype that Italian vehicles are worse than other vehicles and also make the Germans seem supreme?"
*Also Gaijin*- "Let's make a fake match of two popular vehicles and treat it as fact!"
I played 700 matches with the Breda, I've got ammo racked Only 10 or 20 times in that 700 matches, with the Breda I always die or complete a match with a ratio of 1 death to 4-7 kills.
The Breda would've won every match easy
Totally agree, i usually use Breda and i do about 5 kills per battle.
Every time i met the flakbus i always won.
I love the Breda so much. It is still a part of my 7.7 lineup. I regularly ace at that br too
I personally think the Breda is good as a Hit and Run Vehicle
Using its superior Mobility to fire and move to another position with ease
It's gun is good enough to take out most targets, and when set up in a ambush position, you'll do quite well
let's compare vehicles by putting them into extremely specific and scripted scenarios
bruh, A breda can clap any tank in the game
Yes
The Breda is so fantastic when played safely. Driving out in the open is the last thing to do with it. It is best in urban combat so long as one plans around remaining mobile, and having an escape plan into cover always at the ready. It thrives as a sniper too because the AP rounds are devastating, and the reload with a full crew is very fast. Main downside is it has zero defense from CAS. Honorable mention downside is crew replenishment will give you a rear gunner rather than a commander or loader (which is absolutely stupid but whatever). I think it is balanced well being placed at 4.0
Fun fact: the rear gunners are actually the loaders. Thats why crew replenish replaces them, its the same as in every vehicle.
i mean was it balanced? i was playing it with my 6.3 lineup and got a NUKE (gaijin do not put it any higher i swear to god)
2:48 only a noob would use AP knowing he is fighting a non armored unit, which he did in the first round.. xD
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh... Bredabus is the best! PS it looks like an old record since 501 has its sideskirts rised.
In modifications you can change it.
@@darandandan315 nope, it works only for VFM
gotta love how the breda's speed was just thrown away, not allowing it to use it to it's advantage. Speed is not an advantage when you just use it to rush head first into the enemy
In my experience the Breda can actually be rather quiet when approaching at slower speeds I’ve caught many people of guard doing this. I don’t know if they changed this as I haven’t played the Breda in sometime but I noticed the engine only gets loud when going full speed.
I mean,in the first round the first shot of the Breda is...
Not in my mind to shoot that thing in that place.
Second round, what the f Breda waiting for a second shot?
I thought it was more like comparing stats and performance. Having two similiar vehicles fight each other makes no sense o_O
The Bredas mobility and forward gun depression makes it far more effective in-game...
Good attempt, though this could be far more accurate .
I do not really like this series.
In my opinion it just does a bad job at comparing the vehicles, it does not really show strengths and weaknesses, it is just basicly showing gameplay situations that to be fair could have gone either way.
This showdown especially is a bad example, those are both lightly armored SPG with great firepower, with the purpose to be good against enemy armor, but by just letting them face eachother like this they can not really show what they are meant to do.
Breda would have won that first round if it would have shot the weapon system first. Disabling the gun or knocking out the gunner would have given the Breda enough time to reload and reposition to shoot those very vulnerable ammo boxes on the rear of the German vehicle. That was more of an example of a rookie crew getting its ass handed to it than anything else.
In a urban world, the Breda could easily loop around the flak88 but most flak88’s don’t push into areas they can’t control easily. I would agree the Breda is no match for the 88flak but it does have mobility which can leave the 88 on it’s toes on where it will pop out.
*unbiased
*Gives the Flak 88 AP shells
It had them IRL tho
@@Serkay64 just use the HE, it even has a timed HE
@@ahtheh I prefer using the AP shell for almost everything because the fuze is pretty sensitive and it has a lot of HE filler.
@@ahtheh "just use the HE"
the [tank with a roof] turning around the corner:
Of course it's stupid to use AP against a Breda tho
*makes the breda loose
i think this is proof they don'at even play their own game
Q: can you animate loaders on open top vehicles? For example the Spj fm/43-44 it would be cool seeing the loader loading a shell, also another example could be the m901, you could see the loader loading atgms in the gun
nice idea but i think it might look weird like m18 gunner his hand is doesn't look like normal people
1st episode was spot on.
This one I feel missed the mark. The breta should never be fighting "fair" head to head.
Oh yeah because if it wins three times in a row with the enemy using the wrong shell then the flakbus is tooootally better obviously
Sarcasm for those who didn't get it (there are those people out there you know)
The Breda is one of my favorite vehicles in W/T because it gives you a buffer against the up tier. Unfortunately, it's bait for suicide strafing planes. I lose more Breda's to suicide diving planes then to other ground vehicles making it frustrating to play. WHEN IS W/T GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. Players complain about it all the time but crickets from W/T.
"most unbiased" hmmmmm
Ikr, as an italian main I know that no breda player plays like that.
@@bobbert5421 I play France and man does Gaijin hate France. Russian bias might not exist but anti-French bias is real
The devs really be making sure the Italian crew misses every shot lmao
As a breda enjoyer (~1600 kills and ~650 deaths) i can probably say that this thing aint true, i usually end getting 4-10 kills on avarage with at least 1-2 flakbusses back to the hangar. But they are wehrabos isnt it? Just give them the victory so you get more money spent on your game gaijin.
The intro is such a nice animation!!!!! Keep up the good work !!!❤
I thought i heard wrong but they definitely said "...about which tank....is stronk", replayed it a couple of times and they really did say stronk xD
breda player had a skill issue
im surprised when they aaid "bread and butter" they didnt take the opportunity to make the pun "its their Breda Butter"
Wait. Why is it the side skirts up on breda for some of it
Thanks for listening to us
Are you finally noticing italy??? please some high tier to top tier updates, I will pay money to the snailLLL!!!!
They know it's there, just don't like it.
@@sealioso no that's France
@@bob_computer8279 idk
Honestly I think that the next Tank Versus will be good, both are decent tanks for their BR. I am a Britain fan but got to admit the Soviets knew what they were doing.
I have to agree with the result, It was a tie
"most unbiased" yea we all know how untrue that actually is
Breda: bigger caliber, better mobility, better gun depression all around and has two machine guns in the back that actually saved me two times, despite the awkward placement.
Both those people are lucky to be commenters on this literal sport
Dear developers, what's the idea of adding FidelityFX Super Resolution technology?
In my experience, I’d never survive playing Flak, since I would be hunted right after spawning with it 😂
Reading the comments I am pretty sure this is extremely biased
Bro anybody remembers when they compare the base m1 and t72
So you fight these the breda and flak 88 but not the flak 88 vs yag 29k?
Crazy right?
Bro who tf driving that breda😂
can we just talk about the fact how the breda sides were up instead of down
feels kinda handicapped
In facts Breda is more useful and versatile
So you are telling me war thunder cant even play the tank they added to the game? no wonder you are so out of touch with this game...
I enjoy both. but both are for opposite playstyles.
The breda is a great for rushing to a forwards position to ambush tanks deep into the map. A shoot and scoot.
Meanwhile the flakbus, especially with the rangfinder now, is a great long range sniper. it doesn't have speed to rush in deep, but it has a fast reload and a range finder. You can easily control large open sections of a map with the flakbus.
Both suffer once you annoy the enemy team and they just strafe you though.
Can we talk about the textures on the building on 1:38 ??
I still enjoy this when I don't have the game installed.
How do you raise the pannels in the BREDA?
0:07 the bullet had the case after it was fired
Why does the Breda have its side skirts up? Did they make it toggleable?
I like the show, but please find better tankers... That Breda played like It was his first time
A lot of people actually don’t realize that this show is not about what Vehicle is better in all situations. Its a 1v1 scenario. I expected the flak bus to win simply because if its better survivability because of the separated crew member. Not to mention it has a better fire rate and a more sable firing platform.
Breda has mobility and a slightly larger gun as well as non obstructed turret
The breda would have won the first round for sure. Survivability doesnt play a role in it, since the breda could have shot the cabin stopping the flakbus, then finished it off with he or by flanking, while the flakbus cant even shoot back.
In the second round, there was no reason for the breda to go out in the open and be volnurable.
So its clearly not a fair 1v1 scenario.
Pizza truck for the win
can you do T-80BVM vs M1A2 SEP next?
Gaijin we know you don't like Italy....but name one sane player who would agree with this. The breda is great the flak bus is a potato. Sure the Italian has slightly worse gun in theory but with mobility.
*Hits the top of the hood*
“A solid hit to the hull”
So what happened to the HE shell?
Killed two Bredas with the 88 AA shell one after another in a match earlier today in fact
The fact they said most unbiased is making me nervous.
This video is made mainly for entertainment, no experienced players go face to face like in this video, they just flank with Breda
Fliegenabwehrkanone 37 with 88mm is the beast. I'd like to see Tiger or Königstiger Panzerkampfwagen vs T-34.
I don't know. Breda is way more likely to win than the bus in my experience
Would be cool if i can manually adjust my HE fuze on muh Flak 37 8.8cm
Is there any chance of us seeing timed proximity rounds for SPAAGs at some stage ?
Will the Yak-28P be added?
This wasn’t even scientific it was just ohh this vehicle shots and wins wtf
lets be real, Wt NEEDS the V-173. "flying pancake"? i mean c'mon
I only ask Why you use the old version of the breda.
The new one is more usefull!
Also i dont understand Why, in the first match, the "player" aimed for the engine... always aim for the gun. At least the break win the first match in this way
My guys they are open tops put some he rounds on
Its called "gaijin does not like Italy" and that's why flak bus won
Honestly quite incredible
This is not fair. If the breda used it’s HE shell, it would win due to over pressure
same could be said about te flak bus they both should have used HE tbh
How long is the maus staying in the game for?
They did the breda dirty here.
HOW DO YOU CLOSE THE DOORS ON THE BREDA?
I'd like to see a battle between the M8 Greyhound and the German Puma.
.50 cal goes brrrrrrrrrt
Breda Wins hands down
You should do Breda 501 vs T55E1
Why 88 Flak does not have zoom?
i hope there is gonna be a t29 vs king tiger 2 H
I dont understand... My flak killed a Nashorn with a exact shot onto the right tracks with AP, and crew knocked out?
KV-2 against PZ-IV-H when?
You do realize that the breda could have fired well before the flaks second shot right? And in game would have already loaded high explosive?
The breda does kick ass
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY GAJINEMPLOYEES
That breda-butter joke is absolutely cringeworthy
Is not the tank, is the player
T-84 when in game?
go find them on Eastern Europe fields, there are tones of them :D
@@m1gamer935 😂
The snail owns us
ok but in the second round why the breda did not shoots anymore. it was like: i miss u so i let u kill me
I was really excited to get the Flak-Truk but was sorely disappointed. I feel the only way to effectively use it is downhill, at the base of a large hill or from incredibly far away which isn't as fun as say
You dont shoot forward with it...