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- Mary (Saoirse Ronan) is sentenced to death by her cousin Queen Elizabeth (Margot Robbie). She wears a red gown to represent herself as a martyr and hopes her son to take the throne one day as her final wish.
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Mary Stuart's (Saoirse Ronan's) attempt to overthrow her cousin Elizabeth I (Margot Robbie), Queen of England, finds her condemned to years of imprisonment before facing execution.
Historical fact: Elizabeth signed the execution order, but she ordered that Mary not be executed until Elizabeth gave the go ahead. Cecil had her executed anyway. Probably the one man in England at the time that could have crossed Elizabeths will and not be executed.
Elizabeth was actually furious with C ., concerning his deception of going behind her back, which was treason and having Mary executed without her verbal directive - eventhough Elizabeth has signed Marys Bill of Attanier = death warrant .
She instead of having C. arrested , tried and beheaded for treason against the 👑, she discreetly bansihed him from court by having him comfortably retired from. his post and appointed his son in place of C.
I suspect Walsingham was also involved with C ., concerning having Mary executed without Elizabeth's verbal directive,, becsue when he was relieved of his post , it was without pension and he died in poverty .
Elizabeth's body count was a whole lot less than her 1/2 sister Marys - and for political , not religious reasons .
She signed the order - yes, she hedged, but by signing it she understood what she was doing. She needed plausible deniability and her Council gave it to her by undertaking to send the warrant on to where Mary was being held without explicitly confirming such with Elizabeth. Elizabeth seems to have feared the repercussions of European anger at the execution of another (Catholic, no less) monarch. As it was, she had the clerk who carried the warrant thrown in the Tower, and refused to forgive Cecil & Walsingham for quite some time.
True, I think I just met another passionate historian.@@heatherr4321
@@heatherr4321 Was the clerk pardoned eventually?
I believe forces on both sides forced this. Those against Marry, and those hoping to stir seething hate for Elizabeth. But, though she believed Mary was faithful, she couldn't disprove the plot of assassination so Elizabeth's hands were tied. If I were Liz and I didn't have solid proof of Mary's loyalty I'd unfortunately have to sign a death warrant. You'd be a fool not too in those days. Mary Understood I think and forgave Elizabeth.
That makeup and wig could give Pennywise a run for his money
I said the same thing
I was wondering how could I have missed this remake of IT with Margot Robbie till they said "Mary Stuart".
Throw in a few balloons and a sewer, you’ll have Elizabeth IT
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They overdo it in every production now. It's become a Thing. Annoying.
Elizabeth didn't actually like Mary all that much. Her hesitancy was more likely because she feared the repercussions of killing another queen.
Mary was kind of a twit - she just couldn't keep her own house in order. Had any of the colossal fuck-ups she made during her life gone slightly better, she probably would have lived.
Monarchs are anointed by God to rule and Elizabeth feared the wrath of God for killing an anointed monarch of a country. It didn’t matter in the end because Queen Mary’s son, James the 1st became ruler of Great Britain and United both kingdoms so Queen Elizabeth killed Queen Mary for nothing. It was needless and sue tried to stop it in the end but alas it was too late.
I have heard conflicting things on her feelings towards Mary but I doubt she cried. You are right though, unsurprisingly monarchs tend to not want to normalize the killing of monarchs.
@@calimann83 actually she feared the wrath of God. Monarchs are anointed by God to rule and Monarchs are not supposed to commit regicide on each other. Imprison for life yes but not regicide, she knew what she was doing was breaking holy law and in the end she tried to retract her decision but was too late. She regretted it for the rest of her life but in the end it didn’t matter because Queen Marys Scottish Son, James the 1st became king of Great Britain anyway so committing regicide to usurp the Scottish throne was pointless and succeeded in achieving a needless death.
@@Biketunerfy one of Elizabeth's many titles , was Overlord of Scotland . .
With Elizabeth being Overlord of Scotland ,
Mary commit4d high treason against Elizabeth by being involved with numerous plots threatening Elizabeth's life.
Elizabeth being technically Marys Sovereign , had the right to call for Marys exexuatuon .
Mary had been deposed from the throne of Scotland by the Scottish Lords over her affair and marriage with Bothwel who was hotly disliked by the Sxottish Lords ands and was suspected of plotting the mudding Lennox - Marys husband and Elizabeth's souson .
Elizabeth knee she would never be safe as long as Mary was alive .
Mary was not Queen when she waa executed but, reated as a royal.
Eward the IV had his brother George executed for high treason by being driwned in a bath tub ,.
So a Monarch could and did executed a fellow royal if the circumstances could not be avoided
Elizabeth to Mary: You'll float too!
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LOL! For those asking 'why'. Mary got involved in a plot to assassinate Elizabeth and put herself on the throne of England. Her letters about the plot were intercepted, she was put on 'trial' and found guilty. However, the plot was partly, at least, a set-up by Walsingham, Elizabeth's 1st Minister; not only to deal with authentic potential assassins active at the time, but also to involve Mary in the plan and ultimately have her executed and out of the way. While alive, Mary was a focus for various plots of overthrow and assassination of Elizabeth. The death warrant was secreted in a bundle of Elizabeth's usual documents to sign so she could be 'unaware' of what she was doing, and to famously rant later that she hadn't known what was happening. The notion of her knowingly signing it before a huge audience would have been in diametric opposition to Elizabeth's wish to appear completely innocent of the death of a fellow sovereign - an event which always haunted her. The red gown no doubt was intended to be taken as a nod to martyrdom - but it was also very common for the outer gown to be removed before execution, leaving the under-dress, which for most women of this station was of a warm, red material. Mary - being past middle-age by this stage and half-crippled with arthritis, also wore a wig (like Elizabeth). When beheaded, the executioner lifted her head by the hair, only for him to be left holding the wig.
Walsingham was not Elizabeth's first minister, he was her spy chief. Her first minister was Lord Burleigh, Robert Cecil
Thanks for the information!
Yes we ALL learnt that in History class !!
Thanks, always good to hear what really happened. I know that it nearly always happens in historical dramas, but inaccuracies like that spoil the movie for me. Why do they do it, is it simply for dramatic effect or a contemporary way to somehow make the main female character appear more powerful than she actually was?
Dunno ?
why did they make her look like IT
Queen Elizabeth looked like that, pale skin was beautiful because it showed wealth, never having to go outside
Idiotic comment
Read history
United Kingdom’ s great queen
Elizabeth I❤️
You can google that yourself.
I thought this was IT 😱
she had smallpox scares and the makeup she used had lead, and the remover had mercury. I think you can do the math on that one.
This movie was so divorced from the historical facts that it was an abomination.
real history is being obliterated
Elizabeth's sister Mary was bloody Mary, not Mary queen of Scots.
@@alisoncampbell9025 you’ve got to tag @WanderAbroad with this correction. I just wish I could see their face when they realize how wrong they are!
@@WanderAbroad Wrong Mary.
@@Freeyourmind-y4gThey really went off on a mad tear in the wrong direction, didn’t they? Such confidence, too! 😅
People keep talking about Mary being the wrong age but I think it's intentional. Elizabeth talks about remembering her as the young queen she was, so I think part of this scene is shown from Elizabeth's perspective. We see Mary dying the way that Elizabeth remembered her (the young queen) instead of the way she looked at the end.
Also Mary would have spoken French. She would not have had a Scottish accent.
She was Mary Queen of Scots and has a Scottish Accent.
@@nataliehelferty1438 She was married to the dauphin and sent to the French court aged about 5 and didn't return until she was 18. She would almost certainly have been very French.
@@richardswan4051
good points
and her mother Marie de Guise was of French ancestry
Not trying to cause offence but could you imagine trying to explain to an American audience why the Queen of Scotland, who way trying to argue she was the legitimate Queen of England, was speaking in a French accent? They’d have never got their head around it, better to give her a Scottish accent
@@anthonybariek997A possible explanation: Mary, once she arrived in France, would have had her Scottish attendants with her for a short while. Most of them would eventually be sent back to Scotland and replaced with French attendants. This meant that Mary would be hearing French for nearly the entire time she was in France.
Plus, as noted, Mary's mother (Marie of Guise) was of French birth.
The look of Elizabeth with her white face and obvious wigs was accurate but Mary not aging at all pretty much ruined it for me. She also wore a wig and had aged.
Disagree. They made Elizabeth look like a clown.
@@pikedaggerThere was nothing subtle about the makeup on Elizabeth as she aged but I think they wanted to show the contrast between Elizabeth and her artificial look and Mary who has remained demure and sombre so I think the colour was overstated.
When Marys head was held up , it slipped and fell to the floor - she had been wearing a wig , her actual hair had truned grey during her confinment .
@@berenc7619 Yes but it suited the purposes of the film to show Mary as youthful and Elizabeth as an old woman.
@@lanpingpug Mary was born when Elizabeth was about 12 yeats old , so she was older than Mary.
00:01 That's Hogwarts
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beautiful place
My history professor said Mary's little spaniel followed her, under her dress, up to the execution block and that her words were, to Mary of England, "I will smite thee from my grave." And she did, her son would take the crown.
Her spaniel could talk?
@Wooster hahahaha
@@Wooster23 yes, but with a Scottish accent.
I think you meant to write that she said that to Elizabeth.
Actually, her last words were "Into thy hands, O Lord, I commend my spirit." The story of the dog was told by the nephew of Lord Cecil, who was a witness. However, reports by other witnesses make no mention of the dog, so most historians think it was a fabrication. This same nephew also claimed her lips continued to move for a quarter of an hour after her beheading.
@@carolynm8421 A French accent, more likely, since she spent most of her life living in the French Royal Court.
Unfortunately, as in with allot of Hollywood retelling of historical figures, they don't get it right. Neither Elizabeth nor Mary were that young looking when Mary was executed. Elizabeth was in her 50s and Mary in her 40s. Elizabeth had smallpox in her late 20s and ger fsce had become scarred and had lost allot of her hair so she wore thick makeup to cover the scars and wigs to hide the hair loss. After her execution, when someone reached for Mary's head to lift it, it revealed she was wearing a wig that covered her gray hair
Hollywood dramatizes stories??? Nooooo…. Shut the front door
That and the fact that Elizabeth and Mary never met in person.
They aged Margot as much as they could for Lizzy but Mary could’ve used a bit more work, then again she was younger than Lizzy so not too much
@@ashleytrout7452 I'm not sure about that. Mary definitely needed aging but Margot's Elizabeth could have been aged more too. Just look at the makeup job they did on Glenda Jackson not only in the Elizabeth R series (1971) but also in the end of Mary, Queen of Scots (1971)...her face wasn't smooth, you could see not only bags under her eyes but also folds around her neck indicating she was seriously older
@@joelsmith6641 suppose you’re right on that count
3:14 what a great depiction of natural intimidation here she is walking to her death and he’s still scared of her.
For those who are asking, "Why does Elizabeth look like Pennywise?" This film plays into the fact that during her lifetime, Elizabeth I contracted smallpox and almost died from it. She survived, but her hair fell out and her skin was permanently scarred, and that's why she wore red wigs and the white makeup (which was actually poisonous).
Alot of makeup still is
Mary wrote letters in code. You can research the code she used. Look at Simon Singh, he has written books about secret codes that include sections on Mary's code.
At the point she was tricked into doing so she had been held captive for years and would have leapt at any opportunity for freedom.
She was tricked into doing so by Elizabeth's advisor William Cecil who was basically her chief spy.
Had Elizabeth treated her as family in the same way that her own sister Mary Tudor had then this outcome could have been averted.
Instead she chose to ensure a temporary only protestant reprieve for England through murdering the closest catholic heir to the throne.
Had James VI been raised a catholic too in foreign lands (as Mary was) then Elizabeth would have had no clear path forward.
It's a good book
She stitched ciphers into her embroidery as well.
I've always had a soft spot for Mary, she got a raw deal.
@@Gaeliclass Mary is a distant cousin of mine
She had alot of things going agaisnt her when she returned to Scottland .
1) Growing up in a French Court , she had been alienated from the Scottish customs of the Scottish Courtt and Scottish people .
2)She made horrible choices in men as companions
3) her arrogance in dealing with the Scottish nobles and Elizabeth pit a lot of nails in her ⚰ .
3) being the widdow of the Dalphine of France , she no longer had the status or support she once had at French Court - what ever messes she had gotten into in Scotland , she found herself without backing , or help from French 👑 s, or nobles .
She was a 'person non gradta', to the French .
@@Gaeliclass There's a Chinese secret code used by women where they stitch the code onto cloth.
The "subscribe" chime made me think for a second that her councilor was receiving a text notification! 😋
Elizabeth "Do you want a balloon, Georgie?!??"
Mary, though, not Georgie yet.
Only if they float........
KISS ME FAT BOY
Not that she wanted to kill her, mind you, she tried to put it off as long as possible!
It drove her advisors berserk!
She look like the queen of hearts from Alice in wonderland
"A king does not kill a king."
Queens on the other hand....
Is that from Kingdom of Heaven?
@@markzuckerberg3128 yeah, its from Kingdom of Heaven.
These are queens😂
Were you not close to a great king to learn from his example?
Fact .. back then the guy chopping of Mary's head had to do it a few times, the first whack did not kill her .. however the second one did. According to some ( this part of my comment did not post like it should have )
And then he had to saw her head off!
Dude like 1% of this actually happened. Also the queen was fat and hat frizzy hair and did not look like a cartoon alien.
@@zyourzgrandzmaz Elizabeth actually did wear make up called 'Vencian White ' , and wore wigs
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n ... yes.
@@zyourzgrandzmaz We have written history by hundreds of independent sources who witnessed it, and paintings that showed exactly how she looked. Go back to school, so you won't be a cynical know it all, who knows nothing.
I love the fact that the real Mary had a little.dog hidden in her skirts when she was executed and it just popped out part way through 😂😂
Poor dog. What happened to it?
Her ladies took the dog.
@@Hannari-xt6nrNo he wasn't. He refused to eat because his owner was killed and he died shortly after.
@@nomahope3182According to many accounts, the dog refused to eat following Mary's death and died soon after.
Mary was blood kin to Elizabeth .
I think Elizabeth grived over what could have been between them .
Considering the times , Monarchs had to be ruthless , if a Momarch appeared weak they would not stay on the throne very long .
True and especially a woman monarch for the times
Renaissance Fancy Pennywise is not real, he can't hurt you
Renaissance Fancy Pennywise:
Really impressed how they managed to make Soirse look so much like Mary Stewart’s portrait despite the age difference
She does look like a medieval queen but margot looks awful
Cate Blanchett & Samantha Morton were BOTH better in the roles of Elizabeth I & Mary Queen of Scots than Margot Robbie and Saoirse Ronan were in this. I like them both as Actresses, but these weren't the right roles for them.
Agree completely!
The whole movie was a mess
Agree completely
I only loved part 1 with Cate Blanchett she was beautiful betraying Elizabeth I wont go into details but everthing about part one was just fabulous....
Clearly you never saw Helen Mirren do QEI. She blows them all out of the water. And Anne-Marie Duff deserves an honourable mention for her portrayal as well.
It’s creepy Middle Ages Barbie .
Both , are my distant cousins .
@@berenc7619Bull.
Early Modern Barbie
More like creepy medieval harley quinn
One can only imagine the anguish that Elizabeth must have gone though when Mary was executed...Elizabeth had, weither directly or indirectly, put to death an anointed Queen...the same way her father Henry VIII had done to Elizabeth's own mother Queen Anne Boleyn
Elixabeth had every intent to kill her after the Babbington plot (which was aided and abetted by Walsingham). She just had to concoct a way to do it while saving face. Hence the "sly" way the warrant was actually signed. Not in front of a crowd but "snuck in" to her in another pile of papers. This way she could blame the Council for tricking her.
Yeah I'm sure she was super depressed about it...
@@ignacio4159She did in a way. Before her death, she started hallucinating about all the people she sent to death especially Queen Mary of Scotts. She wouldn't eat, sleep or drink, she was on the ground of her bedroom. Refused to sleep due to her fear of being damned for eternity. Her servants finally convinced her to get in bed and sleep at least but that was her last day on Earth. Some say this is due to her make up over decades of wearing mercury and led on her face caused this incident. Who knows she would've lived a longer life if she didn't, nobody knows because she lived a pretty long life for that time period regardless.
This looks like a terrible movie. Not exactly historically accurate.
I don't think anyone has ever made a historically accurate version of Mary's execution. It's puzzling to me.
no film is historically accurate. The best we get is Barry Lyndon, Rebel King, or maybe even Northman. Even those have plenty of issues. Movies are about telling a story, thus there will always be a gap between them. Think of it like a dream you had and the telling of that dream, those two will be different
With the new Academy award casting requirements you wont see many historically accurate films from here on out.
Yeah, up until now movies have been the best source of history. On the other hand there are no Academy Award casting requirements.
See, right before the blade fell Mary should've yelled "God save the Queen!". Then everyone in the room would've yelled it, too, and the execution would've been stayed.
Except she wasn't the Queen any longer, so this wouldn't have worked.
I doubt it, Elizabeth would be the only one who could stay it, and she would have interpreted that differently.
They would've mock her instead. Queen Mary of Scotts decided to go out with dignity and strength.
She looks like Pennywise at 0:25
I always felt that the actress choices were wrong, they should have had them play the other. Margot should have been Mary and Saoirse should have been Elizabeth.
I thought this was some Alice in Wonderland and she was the Queen
Imagine an alternate timeline where the Spanish Armada prevails.
There's a science fiction alternate history novel out there about just that.
North America would be as big a shit hole as South America is.
It may not have changed much in the long run since Mary had fertility problems and wasn't likely to ever have children with Philip. Once she died that would leave England open for any of the numerous protestant claimants to convert England back to Protestantism, most likely James I like what happens in real history.
It actually did, read what happened later
The Spanish couldn't keep the Netherlands under control. England would have been twice as rebellious.
They would have slowed English colonisation, but no matter what initial success they had, they could never have held England and England would not go back to being Catholic.
James cared so much about his mothers execution he made no more than a formal protest to England
Well she don’t look like Barbie that’s for sure
That was not the intention to start with .
yea dummy, because Margot Robbie is an actress and Barbie is a role she played. 🙄
It’s almost as if..this is a period movie and sit down for this one, that’s not about Barbie…wooaahhhhhh🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Just like the executed Anne Boleyn had her revenge by her daughter Elizabeth ruling England, the executed Mary Stuart in turn had her revenge upon Elizabeth by her son James succeeding the latter.
Wouldnt Tilda Swinton be a good fit for this role?
Elizabeth?
@wualaguala Tilda Swinton going to show up, and everyone is all right, all had butlerous showers or murderous showers and or dinner?
Elizabeth or Alice in wonderland Queen of Hearts
Ronald McDonald being queen for a day.
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Both , Elizabeth and Mary are distant cousins of mine .
How would youike you faimlly smacked mouthed like that?
The movie's insistence that Mary looked young and beautiful while Elizabeth looked old and haggard is very funny given that them only being 9 years apart, Elizabeth wasn't balding and scarred, and Mary has grey hair from stress starting in her teens.
Is this the Mary and Elizabeth who are Henry VIII's daughters?
It was known her face was horrific without makeup. Her makeup was made of lead paint, which even without the lead, any woman will tell you that your face's complexion will be ruined from constantly caking makeup on. Add toxic metals to the makeup and it's even worse. Many people from this time period also bore the scars of pox marks, which is said to have also afflicted Elizabeth.
Many fairy tales and romances of this age usually had a female protagonist who was a common milk maid. The reason being for this is they were often inoculated from other poxes due to their exposure to cow pox and had very unblemished complexions.
I feel like it was all foul play at British court and Scottish court. I think people got off on trying to make the queens jealous of each other, and causing all of these toxic things to happen. Multiple people have conspired against Queen Elizabeth, and she still listened to rumors. It's like an "old game of telephone". Rumors, went around and caused others to be stressed out, annoyed, and caused more family feuds than there needed to be. It's like high school with the drama never stopping, upon the royals.
Queen Elizabeth I is so human from my pov. Bcz I have seen too many royalties kill siblings and even father for power but Queen Mary is just a distant cousin.
This was an absolute trainwreck when it came out. It's no wonder that it vanished after three weeks in theaters. The studio that made this must lost have tens of millions and they deserved it.
Cost 25 million to make. It made almost 47 million and thus a profit. It also was nominated for 3 academy awards, a SAG and a Bafta. I hope this information ruins your day.
@@thomasjones4570 you do realize the "budget" does not calculate the millions spent on marketing and advertising? If there was any real profit, it was very minor. For a studio to spend 25 mill and gross not even double that amount it is still a bomb. Hope this info ruins your day.
@@LordValcourNo...budget includes total spent advertising. Stop posting about shit you know nothing about.
@@thomasjones4570
Get over yourself. That stupid film was a financial disaster. The film was not only historically inaccurate, but also ridiculously so!
@@thomasjones4570 - Depends on where and when that budget estimate came from. Unless marketing is specifically cited, budget estimates do not usually include promotion, which is typically a burden of distributors.
CK3 player's "god, why so much drama, it's one execution!"
If pennywise had a twin sister 😂
Wow, Liz. Looking totally human! Great makeup.
Wow Helena Bonham Carter definitely grew into her abnormally large head!
This isn’t how it went down at all… Mary was also much older…
Ah no.
Mary was born when Elizabeth was about 10 ish , because Henry the 8ths son Edwatd was an infant as well as the Scottish Princess Mary .
Henry tried to force a marriage allience with Scottland using polital and military pressure between Edward and Mary - that event was called " The Rough Wooing'.
Mary was secretly taken to France and grew up there ,and was the wifdow of the Dalphine of France when she returned to Scotland to rule as Queen .
The film makes it clear that, at least in this version, Betty thought of Mary as she was when young. It was dramatic licence, expressly stated. Idealised, not Realised.
Wrong mary...you mean her sister. She was older. This is different Mary.
How can you guys not understand this Queen Mary in Queen Elizabeth perspective, how she seen her with beauty and grace. It's rumored she was jealous of her because she had kids, spouse and everything a Queen could've been but Mary lacked knowledge welding her own power is what led to her own downfall.
Mary queen of scots: "and we may one day have peace (shuddering exhale)"
*PEPPY END CARD MUSIC*
Mary was 44 and Elizabeth was 54 at the time of the execution. Most movies make it seem that Mary was executed early on in Elizabeth's reign to solidify Elizabeth ' s claim to the throne. Mary was imprisoned for 19 years before being executed.
Why are there black people in her entourage as she's being led out to be executed? NONE of ANY paintings from that time show her with ANY black people.
Not so thinly veiled racism there.
Why does it bother you?
@@ryangossett8211 Maybe because it isn't true
@@scotthettrich There was a ton of stuff not true in this movie. If this gets you triggered then you might want to chill out.
And Elizabeth I appears to be in white face, a missed opportunity to cast a black actor?
Simply love her signature on the paper
Hard to take this seriously with the black extras in the background!
Diversity strikes again
Or actually do your research there were a good amount black people during Tudor period.
This scene was beautifully done! 🙏🏾😭
Damn who knew there were so many brothers in dat hood
I hear that, so many brothas I lost count. Diversity strikes again
Please read about John Blanke if you know so much about that period
Elizabeth I's last speech to Parliament is called the 'Golden Speech'.
Well worth searching for it on Internet.
Why are there blacks in the background? Really ruins the immersion
Because there were black people living in England at that time. When they tested some of the bones found aboard the Mary Rose, they found that one of them was a black man who had grown up in the West Country. Catherine of Aragon brought black maids with her.
@@emmacarraro3343 delusional, and claims of such have been easily debunked. All an attempt to make a claim on the cultural heritage of Europeans. Almost all British in this period would live their entire lives never seeing an African. There were single digits to a few dozen Africans at most in Britain in this period brought mostly as curiosities.
@@JimChannel152It isn't delusional when there paintings of them, you just don't wanna accept it. Even King Henry VIII gave a black man a tittle within court.
Two women so brilliant in their roles.
It is nice to see Margot take up a role that doesn't depend on "Look at me! I'm sexy!" Margot is sexy, but she's not going to be that forever. Are you a 'sex symbol' or are you a serious actor? If you intend to do this in the long term .... I am not going to comment on her performance, I haven't seen it, but it's sure as hell a serious role. Elizabeth the 1st was pretty emphatically, the best and most successful monarch Britain has ever had. She was a Queen at a time when that didn't mean 'figurehead' ~ that really was a the power second only to God.
She played that leg-breaking skater and HOLY MOLY does she go the full fugly in that. Like, weirdly unpleasant to look at. Just a change of haircut, bad makeup, pulled expression and she's a munter.
01:15 This line seemed to be a repeat of most British Queens, they sacrificed themselves for the throne and the nation it was charged to be the defender of.
The kings mostly treated the throne as a part of their toy box and the realm was a sword they chip away at for entertainment and the serfs should be thankfull to suffer and die to enrich their lords and their king.
What's with the POC (People of Color) as Ladies in Waiting and random noblemen? Not exactly historically accurate. Why not throw in all the ethnic groups to be inclusive? It takes me right out of my ability to suspend my disbelief. They might as well all be texting and snapping selfies on their cell phones.
AGREED!!!
They had to update the history for MODERN AUDIENCES.
"Suitable for modern audiences"
Well that's what happens when you have actual racists running the country. Many of which are "POC". Claiming innocent white people are the racists.
Everything from math to pinky toes are racist. What do we expect?
Diversity strikes again
Как мне нравится, что Марго Робби не боится выбирать роли с непривлекательной внешностью! У нее все хорошо с самооценкой ❤
Um, why are there black people in attendance? Is that a PC nod? Does not seem realistic at all.
I said the exact same thing, they had to have their diversity quota in
And now Mary's generation sits on the throne.
What she doing in Hogwarts?
Am I the only one chafed by the salutation of "Your Grace?" It is incommensurate to their rank. "Your Grace" is an attribution only to a duke, not a queen nor even a princess. A British princess would be "Your Royal Highness." A Queen is only ever "YOUR MAJESTY."
Why is there an African woman in the scene?
Yo, someone call "The boy who lived", Voldemorts sister is roaming around Hogwarts.
Voldemort had a sister?
I see they squeezed in some diversity quota in the extras. Didn’t realise in the 16th century England that there where POC, especially around the ruling class.
There was a POC called John Blanke working as a trumpeter in Henry VIII's court who not only demanded the same pay as his predecessor and the back pay but got it signed off by the King. King also sent him a wedding present when he got married.
Almost nothing historically accurate here.
The movie may have been rather underwhelming. The soundtrack, however, absolutely soars. Take a bow Max Richter.
The antlers on the wall brings it all together.
How?
I love Saoirse Ronan. A great actress, and I absolutely love her Scott accent (with her Irish affectation). Buuuuuuuut... (not to be the "well, actually" guy) well, actually, contrary to her domain and title, Mary would likely have spoke with a French accent. She was sent to France at a young age (6 years old), spoke French, married a Frenchman (betrothed at 6, married at 16), became Queen Consort of France when her husband ascended to the throne, and didn't return to Scotland until her husband died when she was 19 years old. It's not the first or last time Hollywood will have Mary speak with a Scottish brogue, but I'm a fan of details when it comes to historical movies. It shows care.
Mary spoke Old Scots (not English) and French. A visitor to an imprisoned Mary in 1569 described her as speaking in a "pretty Scotch accent". The real deceit of many past portrayals of Mary are those that have her speak English in an English and/or French accent.
*SOMEONE HAS STOLEN THREE OF MY T A R T S*
IT is what IT is
Everyone : but she was old not young when beheaded
Film : I shall not think of you as you are now, but as you were then.
People people people... the film SCREAMED dramatic licence at you.
Rest in peace, Mary.
Hail Mary
Mary won in the end. Her lineage sits on the throne and will continue to do so.
Allthings considered it was Mary's progeny that continued while Elizabeth's ended with her or him...if you believe the rumors
She got the same fate as her sister mary tudor
Not sure this has been mentioned, but Mary spent most of her young life in France since age 5. She purportedly had a noticeable French accent which was likely mixed with any Scottish accent from being exposed to her Scottish courtiers.
Pretty sure if Mary spoke English she spoke with a French accent and not a Scottish one.
Down with the bloody red Queen
Seeing the thumbnail I thought it's Alice in the Wonderland.
Elizabeth to Mary: time to float!
Mary's execution was the worst in history-it took three tries and she suffered horribly. You have to wonder if someone bribed the headsman to foul it up. Poor woman.
Did she at least ask Mary if she wanted a balloon. 😂
More like she has her executed for painting the roses red 🤣
My God, she looks like Pennywise.
The Victorian writer Walter Pater wrote a description of this execution that is probably much more accurate, and it is also very readable.
Man the new Harley Quinn movie looks WAY to serious
i thought the icon was for that movie "IT": oops, wrong turn.
We all float down here?
When pennywise ruled England.
Bloody hell… if Elizabeth looked anything like that when styling herself as the ‘virgin queen’… she looked worse than the joker !
Ronald McDonald was a hell of a queen
btw Elizabeth I was the historical prototype for Pennywise 🤡
"We all float Elizabeth."
Mary knelt upright in the French style and was executed with a sword. She did not put her head on a block.
No she wasn’t. You’re thinking of Anne Boleyn. Mary’s execution was, in fact, quite the horror show.
Oh course. Silly me to make such a mistake.
I thought that was Penny Wise at first glance
Imagine being that scribe guy and messing up the whole parchment with an accidental drop of black ink on the queens name.