The executioner says "bring the sword" in French before he swings. It's pretty genius. He makes the only statement he could that was likely to make Boleyn turn her head in shock rather than flinch downward from an incoming swing, while also covering for his footstep to her other side (this would sound like a page bringing him his sword to a blindfolded Boleyn). Definitely harks to the old stories of professional executioners who prided themselves on giving 'good deaths' (that is, painless and with as little psychological suffering as possible).
@@sjacrane I read Hilary Mantels book and if memory serves me right, the executioner did this to put her neck in the best position to be taken off with a sword. most people were beheaded with a heavy axe but Henry paid for a French swordsman to come over for her beheading by the sword.
I do agree that is powerful. This scene is well done too showing the juxtaposition of Jane Seymour arriving at the tower of London for her coronation as Anne Boleyn is leaving for death. And while I do think Clair Foye encapsulates a woman trying to keep her terror in check, this scene isn’t as close to history as the Tudor’s scene was. By all historical accounts Anne face her execution bravely, not wavering during her speech before the witnesses and then kneeling in final prayer. I do like how in Wolf Hall they showed the minor historical points as it relates to how the execution was carried out which lends the viewer to feel the terror. Seeing the swordsman take off his shoes so she won’t hear his steps, and then by being well trained his sword was hidden from site so as not to terrify Anne, but he also knew that the crowd would gasp when they see him retrieve his sword, causing Anne to know where he was. So he moves and projects his voice so as to confuse her, so she doesn’t know that it came. That’s the part that gets me n
@@Newsbro89 In the original, the bit where the veil.scarf on her headdress blows out in the wind always makes me gasp and shiver, somehow it just makes it all so real. It was clever of the director to keep that bit in and not edit or reshoot.
@@Newsbro89 Hello there. He also cries out in French "Bring the sword." Causing Anne to believe the sword is being asked for, not that it is actually present. Her death occurs an instant later.
@@GGritsun Thomas' death is one of the most profoundly moving in literature, I was left shivering, changed. Matched only by Andrei's death in War and Peace. Mirror and the Light is beautiful so far...
Ann actually went to her death bravely having given a speech forgiving her executioner and praising Henry. Those that witnessed the execution told of her calmness and poise.
@@LJ5-ds1cv Not just Elizabeth either. She had to do it for her remaining family like her mother and her sister as well as her sister children. She followed the protocol of the scaffold perfectly
I've just watched this as a prelude to the return of Wolf Hall this weekend on BBC one. Such powerful TV, such evocative scenes, such fine acting. British drama at it's very best.
Before his death, Henry VIII had ordered a magnificent, fabulously expensive tomb to be made for himself but it was never completed and his body ended up in a vault under St George’s Chapel at Windsor, which came to be shared by those of Jayne Seymour, Charles I and an infant of Queen Anne. In 1888 when the vault was opened to return some relics of Charles I, Henry’s coffin had been badly damaged (unlike the others) with the lid being shattered in places. There is no official explanation although theories include falling masonry, accidental damage during the more recent burials, or even his own bloated body. But it’s significant that his was the only one damaged. A suitably ignominious ending for such a decidedly odious character.
@ I seem to remember hearing accounts of his body, which had already begun to decompose before it was embalmed, exploding as the carriage bumped over the cobbles, cracking open the lead casing; and separately, that it leaked whilst lying in state, with the spillage being licked from the floor by a stray dog that wandered into the chapel.
@@justinneill5003 Hard to know for certain if that was true - Henry was hated by quite a few people, particularly Catholics, and they might have spread such stories as evidence of divine wrath. One source claimed his last words were "Monks, monks, monks." He had had quite a few of them executed for rejecting his religious policies and the story might have been intended to be an expression of guilt on Henry's part.
What you failed to mention is he had the components for his tomb all ready to go. He stole it from Wosley. However he never ended up in it because Edward Seymour had taken control of his nephew and had Henry buried quickly. No way was he going to miss out on money burying Henry like he wanted.
I love how this show got it right by showing Anne was executed by a French Swordsman since Henry hired a professional executioner from France as the last nice thing he did for Anne so she could have a quick death and not suffer from a regular executioner who might botch it made it worse.
There is a school of thought that the heads man was from an Imperial fief, St. Omer, and thus a sop to the Emperor whose aunt, Catherine of Aragon, Anne had pushed aside.
"Because she thinks there's still hope"... Damn that hits hard. The quote absolute power corrupts absolutely comes to mind but is about 300 years too late for the victims of Henry VIII. The did a good job of portraying Jane as terrified. I wouldn't want to marry him either.
@@TvbT777@TvbT777 Anne DID get the last laugh in her and Henry's daughter, Elizabeth I, who reigned for nearly 45 years, the third-longest reign, the second longest-running was Victoria with 64 years, and Elizabeth II had the longest reigning with 70 years. All queens.
@@tammylewis2408 3rd longest reigning Queen absolutely, (Though Britain has only had six Queens in their own right.) George III reigned almost 60 years and held "longest reigning monarch" until Victoria. Henry III reigned 56 years and Edward III did 50 I think. Including Welsh and Scottish Kings, I think Elizabeth I is about 8th or 9th longest reigning monarch.
It's by Debbie Wiseman. She's a very talented composer. She wrote a lovely piece called 'The Traveller' which can be found on You Tube, where quite a few of her other compositions can also be found.
Notice how the executioner set her up to be beheaded she thought he was on one side and then he went to the other side quietly and then made a noise and she looked and off the head
It’s incredible. Please watch it if you’re able! This clip is also a shortened version of the scene in the original episode, which is even more layered
Certainly Mark Rylance does an amazing job. He virtually never shows emotion, even when he tells the Spanish ambassador he could be murdered in the street. He says very little and constantly listens.
And every british school child has this story drummed into them from about the age of 8. I imagine for a british actor its nearly second nature to portray this story.
how any woman could marry that monster How Henry could believe after Anne had held out so long against him that she would betray him, and having already given birth to a son, albeit still born because of the shock his accident gave her, is one of biggest crimes in English history.
If the King turned his attention to you how much choice did you have? If you pleased him he would give you and your family land and wealth. But turning him down?
By the time Jane would have figured that out it was too late and she was already in too deep. Henry may have been a psychopath but women would have still been lining up to marry him at this stage. It is only after Katherine Howard lost her head that they started going no.
Henry VIII was monarch who blamed the women for his sonless(yes he had one who died young), his ego never let look that he had a problem. So he divorced 1st wife and locked in a castle. Then started his killing spree with Ann. You have to ask yourself was he nuts. Even Roman Emperors had to chose a nephew over their own children. Anyway, he should have had a warning sign around his neck, ARMED AND DANGEROUS TO WIFE!
Anne Boleyn was not a particularly sympathetic or likable character, to me. She encouraged Henry's awful treatment of his first wife, Katherine of Aragon, and their daughter, and was often cruel to people around her. However, no one deserves to be executed on false charges. She also had some admirable qualities such as her love of learning.
I think it was because he was seen as a larger than life character. And history white washed him for a quite a long time, watch The Private Life of Henry VIII 1933 ‧ Comedy/Drama . The Planagnets, were a pretty bad bunch , but did not seem to have Heneries Larger than life. Then the Stuarts King Charles the first lost his thrown . Charles the Second, was just a play boy king. The Georgians mocked. I guess its Elizabeth the 1st, Victoria, Henery the 8th , and some times Richard the Lion heart who in realty prefered crusading to ruling
He was that but he was more besides. I don't say that to defend him: he was a terrible person. But he would still be a significant historical figure without the admittedly ghoulish interest people have in his treatment of his wives.
@@BobSmith-s7j Also it was the men under him. Cardinal Wolsey Thomas More Thomas Cromwell Henry viii was about his wifes. Cardinal Wolsey played the great game between the major european powers. Thomas More was a great philosopher. Thomas Cromwell was the main mover behind the reformation.
@@AishaVonFossen He didn't betray Catherine of Parr, largely because he died and also Anne of Cleves got a pretty sweet deal and they had a good relationship when she agreed to annulment. You didn't know him, you didn't know any of them, so wind yer neck in
Henry was a powerful voice for an England free from influence that would rule from beyond its shores. He was a product of brutal times when power was everything and often very vulnerable to attack from equally powerful forces who sought dominance at any opportunity..
Poor Anne Boleyn 😢 I can't even imagine what was going through her mind knowing that this was the end and that she will never see her beloved daughter again. Poor dear. Henry was truly a monster was he not?
It must of been a frightning place to be in Henry's court wither you wanted to be there or not , you could lose your life on a rumor or hearsay with all the fawning over the king & the powerplay scheming within the court truely scary
Henry is surely burning in hell for that and other things. My ancestor, Sir Thomas Wyatt, was imprisoned in the Tower at the time, and may have witnessed the execution of his friend Anne. He was later cleared of all charges.
oh please get over yourself like whoreboleyn was any saint she is the one burning in hell god punished her for not only the way she treated catherine but mary as well who was innocent of all if it hadnt been for anne mary wouldnt have turned out bloody mary considering jane and henrys last wife were kind to her
Remember this was a very different time when women had little to no power. Jane was probably instructed or forced to marry him. Men had total power. But just think, Anne had Henry wrapped round her little finger for a while …. an amazing achievement for back then. If only she had a healthy baby boy as well as a brilliant mind.
@@witerawJane actively participated in Anne’s downfall, and wasn’t some innocent waif with no agency. She wanted to be Queen, and perhaps even actively disliked Anne. She certainly didn’t care very much for Anne’s two year old daughter, who was an innocent in all this. I always find it interesting that Jane is somehow considered ‘the good wife’ to Anne’s near demonic reputation by some. Anne tried to avoid Henry’s advances and only gave in when he offered marriage. This nonsense that she ‘seduced’ Henry is hindsight… there was no way she could have predicted or planned that Henry would try to annul his marriage for her. In Jane’s case, there was now a precident for Henry to discard his wife. She played on that and clearly her aim was to supplant Anne from the beginning. How involved she was in comparison to her brothers and her other allies, I can’t say. I won’t also blame her for Anne’s death. That’s on Henry and Cromwell. And perhaps by the time it was clear Anne would be executed, she had no way out, but she was more than happy to take her crown. People need to stop pretending she was a meek little mouse and admit she was perhaps even more ruthless and ambitious than Anne was… she was just a good actress in pretending she was meek and obidient as a contrast to Anne, and she got lucky in having a boy instead of a girl, even though in the end that killed her.
@@graphiquejack u make me sick boleyn wasnt a good person and was hated by all not only jane all people wanted her gone especially after what she did to catherine and mary plus jane was catholic and nobody considered boleyns marriage legal anyway so why should jane?
If you look at it from Henry’s POV, his divorces from Katherine and Anne are understandable. He was desperate beyond words for a male heir. A king without an heir was very vulnerable to be overthrown. You had many Plantagenets walking around free in England and abroad with much, much better claims to the throne than Henry had. Henry knew his claim was iffy at best and if there was a Plantagenet with the balls and the backing to challenge him, he’d be in trouble without a male heir. He thought you’d have the War of the Roses 2.0 if he didn’t get a male heir. How many people would die in another civil war? It’s was embarrassing to him to think he might be the last Tudor monarch. As it turned out, by the time Mary inherited the throne, the nobility was ok with a woman in charge. But Henry had no way of knowing that would happen. He was reared in the world of male heir or disaster.
You are right, it's difficult for people to understand how justified his obsession was at that period of history. It's ironic though isn't it, Henry, no (legitimate) son - nothing but trouble, Henry II, 4 legit sons, - nothing but trouble! And, as a friend of mine remarked, King Charles III, 2 sons, nothing but trouble, very much not, lol🙄
This scene was brilliantly played out. Incredibly moving and shocking, the mood of the whole thing was perfectly done. Claire Foy was outstanding in the role of Anne.
@@987jof We don't know any of that. Also her dying in childbirth has nothing to do with the original comment which was about how she might have felt not how she would eventually die.
@@ronaldweir712 A lot of things wouldn't have happened if they had today's information. Unfortunately that was why many injustices happened in the past.
There are some historians of the time that, in addition to more recent research that Henry V111 was never the same after the serious jousting accident that occurred. He was unconscious for sometime, others state he was not breathing. Following his survival there were serious changes to his personality. They claims indicate a more ruthless and at times shameful acts and choices never seen in him before. 👑🇦🇺
I believe that Henry's 2 jousting accidents, the worse one in 1536, was the main cause of his personality change. I often heard accounts of younger Henry VIII, vivacious, learned, curious and all around a likable monarch then after the first accident in 1524 which caused him to have constant headaches until he died...he started to have an annulment from Catherine then the 2nd jousting accident....it ended with Anne's execution. As he went older, suffering from that open wound on his leg, gout, diabetes, obesity, the guy just got even worse.
Funny that Claire Foy plays both Queen Elizabeth 2nd in Crown and Anne in this. I know they aren't blood related but somewhere theres likely to be a connection, with all the royal/noble intermarriage.
They are kind off blood related. The Queen Mother was a descendant of Mary Boleyn, therefore her daughter, Queen Elizabeth II and her family are also descendants of the Boleyns
The current royal family is descended from Anne’s sister Mary Boleyn. The Queen Mother (Elizabeth II’s mother) was descended from Mary Boleyn via Catherine Carey, who was Mary’s daughter, and so Elizabeth II and her descendants (including the now King Charles) are too. Interestingly, Princess Diana was also descended from Mary Boleyn through Mary’s daughter, and so King Charles’ sons Prince William and Prince Harry (and children) are descended from Mary Boleyn on both sides of the family. Catherine Middleton, the wife of Prince William, and Sarah Ferguson, the former wife of Prince Andrew, also share ancestry with Mary Boleyn. What’s more, it is believed by some historians that Catherine Carey was an illegitimate child of Henry VIII because Mary was for some time a mistress of the King (before he met Anne obviously), but this isn’t proven and it’s believed that his affair with Mary ended by the time she married William Carey.
It is a minor detail. This show as well as others isn't known for its accuracy. Henry didn't marry Jane on the same day as the execution either but they have them showing like it did happen at the same time. They also showed Anne being rowed into the Tower of London on the morning of her execution which wasn't true either as she had been in the tower since 2nd May with the execution taking place on the 19th. Her dress wasn't quite right either as it was described as red trimmed with ermine.
There are some historians of the time that, in addition to more recent research that Henry V111 was never the same after the serious jousting accident that occurred. He was unconscious for sometime, others state he was not breathing. Following his survival there were serious changes noted in his personality. There claims indicate a more ruthless and at times shameful acts and choices never seen in him before. 👑🇦🇺
He never had syphilis. This one needs to be put to bed once and for all. The doctors recorded everything that came out of Henry. He was a germaphobe as well as being a hypochondriac. Because everything was so well documented they have the evidence that shows he didn't have syphilis. They knew how to identify it by this point as Francis of France was diagnosed with it. There is on UA-cam a video where some historians and doctors go through Henry historical medical history and diagnose him with his actual ailments. Track it down and watch it because they completely blow this syphilis theory out of the water
Hardly, for years it was assumed, and explicitly stated he had syphilis, no other possibility being mooted. It's only with greater knowledge that it does not seem to have been true at all.
He had two wives executed out of 6 so don't exaggerate. He was married to Katherine of Aragorn for 20 years which is an extremely long time and goes against your theory that he got tired. Anne was executed because he wanted rid of her but Katherine Howard was a totally different story. When he found out what she had done he actually cried and threatened to run her through with a knife himself. Does that sound like the actions of a man that was bored. His wife cheated and he ended up in tears. Plenty of Kings through the pages of history could be labelled way more selfish than Henry.
It was also due to the power of the church that did not allow for couples to separate and for people to remarry...so Henry may have been powerful enough to break with The Catholic Church but not to break with the belief system and morals of the day, and so the women were killed if their family was not as powerful as to start a war if that were to happen. Had the king been allowed to separate, the lives of his wives may have been spared.
He didn’t do it to have sex with more women. As king, noblemen (hmm) were lining up their daughters to be his mistress, so they could gain influence at court. He got through the wives because he wanted a male heir. It’s that simple.
@@cherrytraveller5915, Catherine Howard was a teenager when Henry married her. There’s also a written account that states that she was molested & sexually abused by an adult male (friend of her father’s or a relative) several years earlier at an even younger age…so Catherine was a survivor. Being a survivor of abuse tends to make one blur the boundaries of “appropriate” behavior after the trauma. And with Henry being at least 30 years older than his young teenage bride, it was overall, a very bad and illogical match.
You're forgetting that his own father took the throne from Richard III in battle. The Tudors had no real legitimacy to the throne, and could have been bounced at any time. That's why a male heir was so crucial.
This series is excellent. However the BBC seem to be dropping it one episode at a time. I have heard some are able to stream all six episodes. How and why am I unable to do so?
Probably because the series being 9 years apart in production but literally picking up the story where it ended in the last series, Tom Holland aged out of the part of being able to play Cromwell's son.
Not to say wolf hall isn’t a formidable series with high ranking actors, but he’s young and probably won’t see this as being watched by q younger audience
Agreed. That’s why it was preferable for a King to marry a foreign princess. She’d be more likely to have international family and allies to protect her. Marrying an English woman, she was left open without anyone but English subjects who had no real political power. Same thing happened to Edward IV’s wife Elizabeth Woodville and her family - after Edward passed, and Richard III and Henry VII ascended, she had only church sanctuary and her sons and brothers were not protected from the new Kings. Best to make international marriages. But what a King wanted, he got.
So many of these comments are ridiculous, because they view history with a present day lens. Why not spare a thought for the young girls and women in Afghanistan and the Middle East who are mere chattels and who have absolutely no rights. Stop grieving for the past and do something for women and girls now. That’s the real disgrace.
To be fair your comment is ridiculous as well which leads me to wonder why you even clicked on this video to begin with let alone comment on something you clearly have no grasp on. You can look back at history and see how bloody it was with the appreciation it deserves. There is nothing wrong with learning lessons from the past which is ironic considering you fail to see that what you are going on about back 500 years ago is the same thing that happened to Anne here. Women had no rights and their fate was left to the men which you would know if you climbed down from that high horse you are on. History with all is blood soaked pages still has lessons to be learned from but if you wish to bury your head in the sand and look at only what you can see then go for it. Just don't expect anyone else to join you there
@ I’ve never read such a load of old nonsense in a long time. You really are completely missing the point aren’t you? Are you blind to the continuation of how badly women are treated still in many countries? That should be your concern, not what happened 500 years ago. And if you are so unaware of how appallingly women are treated in so many countries, I suggest you stop lecturing me on women’s rights. I am more concerned with 13 year old girls In Afghanistan and Pakistan being forced to married 50 year old men.
what are people supposed to do for the women of Afghanistan? if there was anything i could do, i’d do it, but sparing a thought is meaningless. it achieves nothing for people who are suffering. what tangible action have you taken on their behalf? what have you done, besides sparing a thought? we can’t go to Afghanistan. we can’t go to Gaza. so to me, all you can really do is care for those in your own sphere of influence. protect your loved ones and friends from those who would harm them. stand up for them when they are wronged. thoughts and prayers don’t mean shit. and it’s pointless to order ppl to do something they can’t do, something you can’t do and haven’t done, either.
Henry had an illegitimate son by Anne's sister Mary, who did not live a very long time. His son by Jane Seymour did not live as long as Anne's daughter Elizabeth. Seems to be a pattern, probably due to Henry's habit of having any woman he wanted.
Incorrect on all counts. Where did you even get your information? sounds like it was the TV show the Tudors. Henry had a son by Elizabeth Blount that was called Henry Fitzroy and he lived till he was 17. I point him out because he was a boy and Henry claimed credit for him where he never claimed any of Mary children. Mary had two children with her husband William Carey and they were named Catherine and Henry. By the time they were born the affair of Mary and Henry was well and truly over. As for Edward (Jane Seymour son) he lived till he was 15 but then what he died from was quite common. It is only in modern times that what he had can be treated. There is also a chance that Henry VIII was a carrier of the TB and he accidentally gave it to both of his sons which is nothing to do with who Henry was jumping into bed with
"When negotioations and compromise fail and the only cause is to destroy your enemy, before they wake in the morning, Rev, have the axe in the hand". Reminds me of the cruel decision the Ukrainians are facing dealing with warcriminal Putin.
Of course in modern times Henry would be sitting in a cell being studied by people in white coats but for the time, 500 odd years ago this was actually “civilised”, I’m pretty sure people then must have seen it for what it was but saying as much would have had them suffer horribly. This is why society evolves people. I just hope in another 500 years Henry is dismissed as inconsequential. Probably the worst thing I can think of to annoy him.
Just to be clear, this gives the impression that Henry married Jane Seymour on the same day that Anne was executed. He did not, they announced their engagement but didn't marry on the same day that Anne was killed.
Why hasn't anyone attempted a DNA comparison with Anne's Daughter Elizabeth I remains to determine which of the bones (if any) were Anne's buried at St. Peter's Ad Vincula?
Because of multiple reasons. Anne bones were dug up during Queen Victoria reign. Before being reburied her bones were placed in a coffin and put back in the ground. To stop a further collapse a layer of concrete was poured over all the coffins. Besides the only ones who are questioning who the bones belonged to are modern day authors. The bones matched the description of Anne so why doubt that they were hers. Elizabeth is also buried in a church and at peace. Once you start unburying people then where does it ever end. Why not go into Henry Carey grave after Elizabeth and see if he is Henry VIII child after all. Since you already in Elizabeth grave why not hit up the princes in the tower. Anne of Cleeves next to see if she really was ugly. Get where I am going here. They are at peace so leave it at that
Where‘s her speech, before they did it? „Good Christian people, I am come hither to die, for according to the law, and by the law I am judged to die, and therefore I will speak nothing against it. I am come hither to accuse no man, nor to speak anything of that, whereof I am accused and condemned to die, but I pray God save the king and send him long to reign over you, for a gentler nor a more merciful prince was there never: and to me he was ever a good, a gentle and sovereign lord. And if any person will meddle of my cause, I require them to judge the best. And thus I take my leave of the world and of you all, and I heartily desire you all to pray for me. O Lord have mercy on me, to God I commend my soul. To Jesus Christ I commend my soul; Lord Jesus receive my soul.“
"As the axe drops"? It appears whoever wrote the description hasn't watched any other movie on the subject, nor this video. Or read a book. Nah, too much to expect.
How would you know. You weren’t there. By all accounts at the beginning he was very funny and had a common touch. He was no more a monster than anyone else. He just struggled with the pressure of trying to carry on a legacy. That fear and pressure was passed down by his own father. He as well as Henry mother knew the consequences if a legacy was not secure.
Henry and others were products of their time - when power was achieved by force and cunning - and was preserved in the same way against constant threat and similar ambitions, often from those closest to them.
Depends on where you live as to whether you view Henry as the greatest monsters. In Scotland he wouldn't even make top five. For them the monster would always be Edward I. There are far worse monsters than Henry VIII
You have to remember that the Henry during Anne time was still very athletic and slim. The Henry you referred to in those paintings came about after Jane died. He went into a deep grief which caused him to turn to comfort eating. Maybe not dealing with the loss of his mother and then losing his wife the same way caused it. Either way he did nothing but eat for two year after Jane died. He also stopped exercising by this point as well but his calorie intake was still the same as when he was exercise.
She intrigued to ensure the downfall of Cardinal Wolsey; the divorce of Queen Catherine and the degredation her daughter, the Princess Mary; and to secure the execution of Thomas More and several others equally blameless whom she believed stood in her way. Difficult to have much sympathy for her as her predicament was largely of her own making.
The first season was really well done, season two looks really fake and stupid. Doesn’t have the same feel, looks like a fantasy drama, not historical.
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The executioner says "bring the sword" in French before he swings.
It's pretty genius. He makes the only statement he could that was likely to make Boleyn turn her head in shock rather than flinch downward from an incoming swing, while also covering for his footstep to her other side (this would sound like a page bringing him his sword to a blindfolded Boleyn).
Definitely harks to the old stories of professional executioners who prided themselves on giving 'good deaths' (that is, painless and with as little psychological suffering as possible).
He was a French swordsman.
Why would it shock her when he said that and why would making her turn her head to the side make it less painful?
@@sjacraneit would distract her and keep her from tensing up, is my guess.
@@sjacrane I read Hilary Mantels book and if memory serves me right, the executioner did this to put her neck in the best position to be taken off with a sword. most people were beheaded with a heavy axe but Henry paid for a French swordsman to come over for her beheading by the sword.
@ why did Henry pay for a French swordsman?
The execution scene in the original Wolf Hall is so powerful and moving. It is filmed in a way that makes it seem real and that the viewer is there.
I do agree that is powerful. This scene is well done too showing the juxtaposition of Jane Seymour arriving at the tower of London for her coronation as Anne Boleyn is leaving for death. And while I do think Clair Foye encapsulates a woman trying to keep her terror in check, this scene isn’t as close to history as the Tudor’s scene was. By all historical accounts Anne face her execution bravely, not wavering during her speech before the witnesses and then kneeling in final prayer. I do like how in Wolf Hall they showed the minor historical points as it relates to how the execution was carried out which lends the viewer to feel the terror. Seeing the swordsman take off his shoes so she won’t hear his steps, and then by being well trained his sword was hidden from site so as not to terrify Anne, but he also knew that the crowd would gasp when they see him retrieve his sword, causing Anne to know where he was. So he moves and projects his voice so as to confuse her, so she doesn’t know that it came. That’s the part that gets me n
@@Newsbro89 In the original, the bit where the veil.scarf on her headdress blows out in the wind always makes me gasp and shiver, somehow it just makes it all so real. It was clever of the director to keep that bit in and not edit or reshoot.
@@Newsbro89 Hello there. He also cries out in French "Bring the sword." Causing Anne to believe the sword is being asked for, not that it is actually present. Her death occurs an instant later.
It’s in the second of the trilogy, “Bring Up The Bodies”. One of the best books I have ever read. The execution scene brings shivers to your spine
@@GGritsun Thomas' death is one of the most profoundly moving in literature, I was left shivering, changed. Matched only by Andrei's death in War and Peace. Mirror and the Light is beautiful so far...
Ann actually went to her death bravely having given a speech forgiving her executioner and praising Henry. Those that witnessed the execution told of her calmness and poise.
She probably praised Henry to ensure he took care of their 2 year old daughter, Elizabeth.
@@LJ5-ds1cv Not just Elizabeth either. She had to do it for her remaining family like her mother and her sister as well as her sister children. She followed the protocol of the scaffold perfectly
I've just watched this as a prelude to the return of Wolf Hall this weekend on BBC one.
Such powerful TV, such evocative scenes, such fine acting.
British drama at it's very best.
Before his death, Henry VIII had ordered a magnificent, fabulously expensive tomb to be made for himself but it was never completed and his body ended up in a vault under St George’s Chapel at Windsor, which came to be shared by those of Jayne Seymour, Charles I and an infant of Queen Anne. In 1888 when the vault was opened to return some relics of Charles I, Henry’s coffin had been badly damaged (unlike the others) with the lid being shattered in places. There is no official explanation although theories include falling masonry, accidental damage during the more recent burials, or even his own bloated body. But it’s significant that his was the only one damaged. A suitably ignominious ending for such a decidedly odious character.
Read up on what happened to his body en route to the grave 😬
@ I seem to remember hearing accounts of his body, which had already begun to decompose before it was embalmed, exploding as the carriage bumped over the cobbles, cracking open the lead casing; and separately, that it leaked whilst lying in state, with the spillage being licked from the floor by a stray dog that wandered into the chapel.
@@justinneill5003 Hard to know for certain if that was true - Henry was hated by quite a few people, particularly Catholics, and they might have spread such stories as evidence of divine wrath.
One source claimed his last words were "Monks, monks, monks." He had had quite a few of them executed for rejecting his religious policies and the story might have been intended to be an expression of guilt on Henry's part.
He was hated in life and death
There is your explanation
What you failed to mention is he had the components for his tomb all ready to go. He stole it from Wosley. However he never ended up in it because Edward Seymour had taken control of his nephew and had Henry buried quickly. No way was he going to miss out on money burying Henry like he wanted.
I love how this show got it right by showing Anne was executed by a French Swordsman since Henry hired a professional executioner from France as the last nice thing he did for Anne so she could have a quick death and not suffer from a regular executioner who might botch it made it worse.
Every show or film about anne boleyn have done it before
There is a school of thought that the heads man was from an Imperial fief, St. Omer, and thus a sop to the Emperor whose aunt, Catherine of Aragon, Anne had pushed aside.
"Because she thinks there's still hope"... Damn that hits hard. The quote absolute power corrupts absolutely comes to mind but is about 300 years too late for the victims of Henry VIII. The did a good job of portraying Jane as terrified. I wouldn't want to marry him either.
Because she knew what her fate might be, knowing what her predecessor had been through
The hope is the children or "heirs"
@@TvbT777@TvbT777 Anne DID get the last laugh in her and Henry's daughter, Elizabeth I, who reigned for nearly 45 years, the third-longest reign, the second longest-running was Victoria with 64 years, and Elizabeth II had the longest reigning with 70 years. All queens.
@@ReeM-wz7bs Yeah, that was already implied in the OP's comment... Didn't require clairification
@@tammylewis2408 3rd longest reigning Queen absolutely, (Though Britain has only had six Queens in their own right.) George III reigned almost 60 years and held "longest reigning monarch" until Victoria. Henry III reigned 56 years and Edward III did 50 I think. Including Welsh and Scottish Kings, I think Elizabeth I is about 8th or 9th longest reigning monarch.
This music is just so absolutely haunting. It is pain, and sorrow, and softness all at the same time. Hell of a soundtrack.
It's by Debbie Wiseman. She's a very talented composer. She wrote a lovely piece called 'The Traveller' which can be found on You Tube, where quite a few of her other compositions can also be found.
@@musicloverlondon6070 Thank you for the extra info, on my way to check out her work!
1:34, it just dawned on me that the man on the left, Sir Mark Rylance, was also in “The Other Boleyn Girl”, where he played Anne Boleyn’s father 😮
Yes
Wolf Hall is where I was introduced to the fabulous Claire Foy. Wonderful actress.
@@SarahRenz59 Little Dorrit is what introduced me to the beautiful & talented Miss Foy.
And .....?
She is fabulous in the remake of upstairs/downstairs.
She's fantastic. I first same to know of her from, "The Crown".
@@boadiccea1 And… what’s your problem?
Notice how the executioner set her up to be beheaded she thought he was on one side and then he went to the other side quietly and then made a noise and she looked and off the head
By doing that, he insured that she wouldn’t have to endure repeated cuts from the sword.
He did so to get her to position her head correctly for his sword
It was also to calm her down, so that it was quick and she wouldn't see it coming, as apparantly he was so impressed with her speech.
I haven’t watched more than this clip but I can tell the casting is superb.
@@kaylahensley1581 Agree. In a cast of stars, Sir Mark Rylance - the way he can show thoughts flitting across his face without even speaking ….
Watch Natalie dahlmore on the tutors clip
It’s incredible. Please watch it if you’re able! This clip is also a shortened version of the scene in the original episode, which is even more layered
A creative effort that demands and gets quality - both in acting and production. It is
great to know that such programmes are still to be found on TV.
There are many high-quality programmes and series on TV these days.
Certainly Mark Rylance does an amazing job. He virtually never shows emotion, even when he tells the Spanish ambassador he could be murdered in the street. He says very little and constantly listens.
British productions don’t play around when it comes to quality!
Damien Lewis is an amazing actor. He looks like a young Henry VIII here.
And only the Brits could pull this off. Their level of acting, wow.
And every british school child has this story drummed into them from about the age of 8. I imagine for a british actor its nearly second nature to portray this story.
how any woman could marry that monster How Henry could believe after Anne had held out so long against him that she would betray him, and having already given birth to a son, albeit still born because of the shock his accident gave her, is one of biggest crimes in English history.
If the King turned his attention to you how much choice did you have? If you pleased him he would give you and your family land and wealth. But turning him down?
By the time Jane would have figured that out it was too late and she was already in too deep. Henry may have been a psychopath but women would have still been lining up to marry him at this stage. It is only after Katherine Howard lost her head that they started going no.
You did not say no to Henry the 8th.
It was a different time women didn't have much choice.
They didn’t really have a say.
If their family said to marry him they had to marry him.
Henry VIII was monarch who blamed the women for his sonless(yes he had one who died young), his ego never let look that he had a problem. So he divorced 1st wife and locked in a castle. Then started his killing spree with Ann. You have to ask yourself was he nuts. Even Roman Emperors had to chose a nephew over their own children. Anyway, he should have had a warning sign around his neck, ARMED AND DANGEROUS TO WIFE!
Anne Boleyn was not a particularly sympathetic or likable character, to me. She encouraged Henry's awful treatment of his first wife, Katherine of Aragon, and their daughter, and was often cruel to people around her. However, no one deserves to be executed on false charges. She also had some admirable qualities such as her love of learning.
do not forget that she encouraged Henry to remove favour from Wolsey which ultimately lead to his death.
It annoys me that of all English and then UK monarchs people have so much interest in Henry VIII, who was basically just a serial killer of women.
I think it was because he was seen as a larger than life character.
And history white washed him for a quite a long time, watch The Private Life of Henry VIII
1933 ‧ Comedy/Drama .
The Planagnets, were a pretty bad bunch , but did not seem to have Heneries Larger than life.
Then the Stuarts King Charles the first lost his thrown . Charles the Second, was just a play boy king.
The Georgians mocked.
I guess its Elizabeth the 1st, Victoria, Henery the 8th , and some times Richard the Lion heart who in realty prefered crusading to ruling
He was that but he was more besides. I don't say that to defend him: he was a terrible person. But he would still be a significant historical figure without the admittedly ghoulish interest people have in his treatment of his wives.
@@BobSmith-s7j Also it was the men under him.
Cardinal Wolsey
Thomas More
Thomas Cromwell
Henry viii was about his wifes.
Cardinal Wolsey played the great game between the major european powers.
Thomas More was a great philosopher.
Thomas Cromwell was the main mover behind the reformation.
And men
Interest bothers you?
Will we be able to binge the whole season on November 10th or will it be one episode per week?
Yeah, I'm hoping they drop all six episodes on 10th November. Otherwise, I don't know how I'll cope with the wait each week!
Me every time Henry VIII comes on screen: "TRAITOR!" 🤬
I not so sure, but I feel that a king can not be traitor because he is a representative of the kingdom himself. But surely a king can be tyranny.
@dhoomed92 Hmm, I see your point, but he did betray all his wives. Even to the point of murdering two of them. And he betrayed both of his daughters.
@@dhoomed92Kings can be deemed traitors; something King Charles I came to know all too well
@@AishaVonFossen He didn't betray Catherine of Parr, largely because he died and also Anne of Cleves got a pretty sweet deal and they had a good relationship when she agreed to annulment. You didn't know him, you didn't know any of them, so wind yer neck in
Henry was a powerful voice for an England free from influence that would rule from beyond its shores. He was a product of brutal times when power was everything and often very vulnerable to attack from equally powerful forces who sought dominance at any
opportunity..
Poor Anne Boleyn 😢 I can't even imagine what was going through her mind knowing that this was the end and that she will never see her beloved daughter again. Poor dear. Henry was truly a monster was he not?
It must of been a frightning place to be in Henry's court wither you wanted to be there or not , you could lose your life on a rumor or hearsay with all the fawning over the king & the powerplay scheming within the court truely scary
Unfortunately, we are heading that way in the U.S. in January with Drump and his Enemies Lists.
Henry is surely burning in hell for that and other things. My ancestor, Sir Thomas Wyatt, was imprisoned in the Tower at the time, and may have witnessed the execution of his friend Anne. He was later cleared of all charges.
oh please get over yourself like whoreboleyn was any saint she is the one burning in hell god punished her for not only the way she treated catherine but mary as well who was innocent of all if it hadnt been for anne mary wouldnt have turned out bloody mary considering jane and henrys last wife were kind to her
Your ancestor? My arse.
really? how did he manage to clear his name. people in the tower only got out if the king allowed it.
@@Drankovich Why would you say that? We traced it to him several years ago. Proven and documented.
@@mtb5778 Which he did. It's easy enough to find out for yourself by googling Sir Thomas Wyatt.
The "other woman" always believes she is so special that the guy will never treat her as badly as he did his ex!
true, but at this time it would have been very difficult to say no to a king, specially Henry VIII.
Remember this was a very different time when women had little to no power. Jane was probably instructed or forced to marry him. Men had total power. But just think, Anne had Henry wrapped round her little finger for a while …. an amazing achievement for back then. If only she had a healthy baby boy as well as a brilliant mind.
tell me you know nothing about Tudor history without telling me. Jane did not have a choice.
@@witerawJane actively participated in Anne’s downfall, and wasn’t some innocent waif with no agency. She wanted to be Queen, and perhaps even actively disliked Anne. She certainly didn’t care very much for Anne’s two year old daughter, who was an innocent in all this. I always find it interesting that Jane is somehow considered ‘the good wife’ to Anne’s near demonic reputation by some. Anne tried to avoid Henry’s advances and only gave in when he offered marriage. This nonsense that she ‘seduced’ Henry is hindsight… there was no way she could have predicted or planned that Henry would try to annul his marriage for her. In Jane’s case, there was now a precident for Henry to discard his wife. She played on that and clearly her aim was to supplant Anne from the beginning. How involved she was in comparison to her brothers and her other allies, I can’t say. I won’t also blame her for Anne’s death. That’s on Henry and Cromwell. And perhaps by the time it was clear Anne would be executed, she had no way out, but she was more than happy to take her crown. People need to stop pretending she was a meek little mouse and admit she was perhaps even more ruthless and ambitious than Anne was… she was just a good actress in pretending she was meek and obidient as a contrast to Anne, and she got lucky in having a boy instead of a girl, even though in the end that killed her.
@@graphiquejack u make me sick boleyn wasnt a good person and was hated by all not only jane all people wanted her gone especially after what she did to catherine and mary plus jane was catholic and nobody considered boleyns marriage legal anyway so why should jane?
In 1536 Anne Boleyn was beheaded and in 1540 Thomas Cromwell was beheaded.
NOOOOO..... all these spoilers ! hahaha
Thomas Cromwell was brutal and botched.
If you look at it from Henry’s POV, his divorces from Katherine and Anne are understandable. He was desperate beyond words for a male heir. A king without an heir was very vulnerable to be overthrown. You had many Plantagenets walking around free in England and abroad with much, much better claims to the throne than Henry had. Henry knew his claim was iffy at best and if there was a Plantagenet with the balls and the backing to challenge him, he’d be in trouble without a male heir. He thought you’d have the War of the Roses 2.0 if he didn’t get a male heir. How many people would die in another civil war? It’s was embarrassing to him to think he might be the last Tudor monarch. As it turned out, by the time Mary inherited the throne, the nobility was ok with a woman in charge. But Henry had no way of knowing that would happen. He was reared in the world of male heir or disaster.
You are right, it's difficult for people to understand how justified his obsession was at that period of history. It's ironic though isn't it, Henry, no (legitimate) son - nothing but trouble, Henry II, 4 legit sons, - nothing but trouble! And, as a friend of mine remarked, King Charles III, 2 sons, nothing but trouble, very much not, lol🙄
This scene was brilliantly played out. Incredibly moving and shocking, the mood of the whole thing was perfectly done. Claire Foy was outstanding in the role of Anne.
Imagine how frightened Jane must’ve felt knowing she was next
Probably not. She died in childbirth. And she was probably absolutely ok with getting to marry the king even if it cost Anne Boleyn her life
@@987jof We don't know any of that. Also her dying in childbirth has nothing to do with the original comment which was about how she might have felt not how she would eventually die.
He blames Anne for not producing an heir. It is the man's sperm that determines sex.
They didn't know that then.
@ true but she wouldn't have suffered decapitation if they did.
@@ronaldweir712 A lot of things wouldn't have happened if they had today's information. Unfortunately that was why many injustices happened in the past.
@ indeed.
Barbaric! Made me think of a comparison.😢
King Donaldo?
I felt so bad for her… she was way to young. That wasn't her fault.
I'm sorry but I had no clue THOMAS BRODIE SANGSTER played in this
There are some historians of the time that, in addition to more recent research that Henry V111 was never the same after the serious jousting accident that occurred. He was unconscious for sometime, others state he was not breathing. Following his survival there were serious changes to his personality. They claims indicate a more ruthless and at times shameful acts and choices never seen in him before. 👑🇦🇺
I’ve heard that. A possible traumatic brain injury? I understand they can absolutely cause personality change.
I believe that Henry's 2 jousting accidents, the worse one in 1536, was the main cause of his personality change. I often heard accounts of younger Henry VIII, vivacious, learned, curious and all around a likable monarch then after the first accident in 1524 which caused him to have constant headaches until he died...he started to have an annulment from Catherine then the 2nd jousting accident....it ended with Anne's execution. As he went older, suffering from that open wound on his leg, gout, diabetes, obesity, the guy just got even worse.
I feel this is probably the truth👍
Funny that Claire Foy plays both Queen Elizabeth 2nd in Crown and Anne in this. I know they aren't blood related but somewhere theres likely to be a connection, with all the royal/noble intermarriage.
They are kind off blood related. The Queen Mother was a descendant of Mary Boleyn, therefore her daughter, Queen Elizabeth II and her family are also descendants of the Boleyns
And Joanne Whalley who played Katherine of Aragon in Wolf Hall also played her daughter Mary in The Virgin Queen (2005)
The current royal family is descended from Anne’s sister Mary Boleyn. The Queen Mother (Elizabeth II’s mother) was descended from Mary Boleyn via Catherine Carey, who was Mary’s daughter, and so Elizabeth II and her descendants (including the now King Charles) are too. Interestingly, Princess Diana was also descended from Mary Boleyn through Mary’s daughter, and so King Charles’ sons Prince William and Prince Harry (and children) are descended from Mary Boleyn on both sides of the family. Catherine Middleton, the wife of Prince William, and Sarah Ferguson, the former wife of Prince Andrew, also share ancestry with Mary Boleyn.
What’s more, it is believed by some historians that Catherine Carey was an illegitimate child of Henry VIII because Mary was for some time a mistress of the King (before he met Anne obviously), but this isn’t proven and it’s believed that his affair with Mary ended by the time she married William Carey.
Henry VIII was a monster.
Not really. Far worse in history
Most people in power were back in the day.
@@cherrytraveller5915saying there were “far worst” doesn’t stop him from being a monster😂 he just wasn’t a worst monster than the others
Those looks backward are historically accurate. She apparently desperately hoped for a reprieve. But, of course, Henry was Henry.
A small detail, please. Anne wore a bonnet and frontlet to show she was an English Queen, not a "French Hood".
Gable hood
@@shayadayan3343 The proper term is bonnet and frontlet.
It is a minor detail. This show as well as others isn't known for its accuracy. Henry didn't marry Jane on the same day as the execution either but they have them showing like it did happen at the same time. They also showed Anne being rowed into the Tower of London on the morning of her execution which wasn't true either as she had been in the tower since 2nd May with the execution taking place on the 19th. Her dress wasn't quite right either as it was described as red trimmed with ermine.
@cherrytraveller5915 Sadly, she was able to watch her brother beheaded.
Historical facts are not a BBC thing no person of colour ever dressed the king it's just a modern-day drama
There are some historians of the time that, in addition to more recent research that Henry V111 was never the same after the serious jousting accident that occurred. He was unconscious for sometime, others state he was not breathing. Following his survival there were serious changes noted in his personality. There claims indicate a more ruthless and at times shameful acts and choices never seen in him before. 👑🇦🇺
Sounds like traumatic brain injury. It’s my understanding from the research its sufferers are never the same after that terrible conk on the head.
@@Ellen24493 Yes, exactly.
She was buried in the Unmarked grave 😭😭😭😭😭
Henry’s syphilis conveniently airbrushed out of history, perhaps it was the resulting paranoia that caused his despotic behaviour.
He never had syphilis. This one needs to be put to bed once and for all. The doctors recorded everything that came out of Henry. He was a germaphobe as well as being a hypochondriac. Because everything was so well documented they have the evidence that shows he didn't have syphilis. They knew how to identify it by this point as Francis of France was diagnosed with it. There is on UA-cam a video where some historians and doctors go through Henry historical medical history and diagnose him with his actual ailments. Track it down and watch it because they completely blow this syphilis theory out of the water
He didn't have have syphilis as proven by examine of his facial bones which were normal. It's a common misconception he suffered from it.
Syphilis affected the mind when it got to a certain stage,so did gonarea.
Hardly, for years it was assumed, and explicitly stated he had syphilis, no other possibility being mooted. It's only with greater knowledge that it does not seem to have been true at all.
@elvisfenlon2154 either it's not true or it's been conveniently airbrushed out.
What a despicable king when he got tired of his wives he just had them executed for no reason except for his own selfish needs
He had two wives executed out of 6 so don't exaggerate. He was married to Katherine of Aragorn for 20 years which is an extremely long time and goes against your theory that he got tired. Anne was executed because he wanted rid of her but Katherine Howard was a totally different story. When he found out what she had done he actually cried and threatened to run her through with a knife himself. Does that sound like the actions of a man that was bored. His wife cheated and he ended up in tears. Plenty of Kings through the pages of history could be labelled way more selfish than Henry.
It was also due to the power of the church that did not allow for couples to separate and for people to remarry...so Henry may have been powerful enough to break with The Catholic Church but not to break with the belief system and morals of the day, and so the women were killed if their family was not as powerful as to start a war if that were to happen. Had the king been allowed to separate, the lives of his wives may have been spared.
He didn’t do it to have sex with more women. As king, noblemen (hmm) were lining up their daughters to be his mistress, so they could gain influence at court. He got through the wives because he wanted a male heir. It’s that simple.
@@cherrytraveller5915, Catherine Howard was a teenager when Henry married her. There’s also a written account that states that she was molested & sexually abused by an adult male (friend of her father’s or a relative) several years earlier at an even younger age…so Catherine was a survivor. Being a survivor of abuse tends to make one blur the boundaries of “appropriate” behavior after the trauma. And with Henry being at least 30 years older than his young teenage bride, it was overall, a very bad and illogical match.
You're forgetting that his own father took the throne from Richard III in battle. The Tudors had no real legitimacy to the throne, and could have been bounced at any time. That's why a male heir was so crucial.
You have to be wondering as the third woman, "What the hell did I get myself into?"
Жаль, что субтитров на русском нет у BBC, но хоть знаю, о чём идёт речь. Великолепные фильмы ВВС! Спасибо!
Как англичанин, который долго изучает русский, я рад читать ваше сообщение. Хорошего просмотра! 👍
This series is excellent. However the BBC seem to be dropping it one episode at a time. I have heard some are able to stream all six episodes. How and why am I unable to do so?
For some reason the BBC are making us wait....
@@slytheringingerwitch, you’re speaking of a continuation series after the original Wolf Hall?
@@Channel-lb1is Yes, they are only dropping one episode at a time.
How ironic that Henry & Anne Bolyne’s daughter Elizabeth became a long reigning monarch.
Claire Foy is the best British actress.
Biggest crime is all the blokes being told what to do by a king
How come Tom Holland isn't playing Cromwell's son anymore? 🥺
Probably because the series being 9 years apart in production but literally picking up the story where it ended in the last series, Tom Holland aged out of the part of being able to play Cromwell's son.
Not to say wolf hall isn’t a formidable series with high ranking actors, but he’s young and probably won’t see this as being watched by q younger audience
She should have been protected wtf. This is barbaric. Women have been put through the most inconceivable atrocities
Agreed. That’s why it was preferable for a King to marry a foreign princess. She’d be more likely to have international family and allies to protect her. Marrying an English woman, she was left open without anyone but English subjects who had no real political power. Same thing happened to Edward IV’s wife Elizabeth Woodville and her family - after Edward passed, and Richard III and Henry VII ascended, she had only church sanctuary and her sons and brothers were not protected from the new Kings. Best to make international marriages. But what a King wanted, he got.
Oh come on…like men were not victims of violent miscarriages of justice. Seriously.
yep and men got off scott free. oh apart from the the fact her brother was also killed, didn't he also deserve to be protected?
I had watched the other boleyn girl a day ago and this popped on my feed never been so interested in english history before😂
The Tudors certainly are fascinating.
Good movie. Shame on the parents for exploiting their daughters. All for power and money.
If you were involved with Henry the eighth there was a better than even chance you would lose your head,Cromwell did,a high stakes game
I have undying respect for the Scottish people.
Thats great but what has that got to do with this?
So many of these comments are ridiculous, because they view history with a present day lens. Why not spare a thought for the young girls and women in Afghanistan and the Middle East who are mere chattels and who have absolutely no rights. Stop grieving for the past and do something for women and girls now. That’s the real disgrace.
To be fair your comment is ridiculous as well which leads me to wonder why you even clicked on this video to begin with let alone comment on something you clearly have no grasp on. You can look back at history and see how bloody it was with the appreciation it deserves. There is nothing wrong with learning lessons from the past which is ironic considering you fail to see that what you are going on about back 500 years ago is the same thing that happened to Anne here. Women had no rights and their fate was left to the men which you would know if you climbed down from that high horse you are on. History with all is blood soaked pages still has lessons to be learned from but if you wish to bury your head in the sand and look at only what you can see then go for it. Just don't expect anyone else to join you there
@ I’ve never read such a load of old nonsense in a long time. You really are completely missing the point aren’t you? Are you blind to the continuation of how badly women are treated still in many countries? That should be your concern, not what happened 500 years ago. And if you are so unaware of how appallingly women are treated in so many countries, I suggest you stop lecturing me on women’s rights. I am more concerned with 13 year old girls In Afghanistan and Pakistan being forced to married 50 year old men.
We did, we invaded and occupied for 20 years ago…
what are people supposed to do for the women of Afghanistan? if there was anything i could do, i’d do it, but sparing a thought is meaningless. it achieves nothing for people who are suffering. what tangible action have you taken on their behalf? what have you done, besides sparing a thought? we can’t go to Afghanistan. we can’t go to Gaza. so to me, all you can really do is care for those in your own sphere of influence. protect your loved ones and friends from those who would harm them. stand up for them when they are wronged. thoughts and prayers don’t mean shit. and it’s pointless to order ppl to do something they can’t do, something you can’t do and haven’t done, either.
@ you really are a sad person. You bore me now.
Henry had an illegitimate son by Anne's sister Mary, who did not live a very long time. His son by Jane Seymour did not live as long as Anne's daughter Elizabeth. Seems to be a pattern, probably due to Henry's habit of having any woman he wanted.
Mary's son lived to be 70. There's no confirmation of paternity.
Incorrect on all counts. Where did you even get your information? sounds like it was the TV show the Tudors. Henry had a son by Elizabeth Blount that was called Henry Fitzroy and he lived till he was 17. I point him out because he was a boy and Henry claimed credit for him where he never claimed any of Mary children. Mary had two children with her husband William Carey and they were named Catherine and Henry. By the time they were born the affair of Mary and Henry was well and truly over. As for Edward (Jane Seymour son) he lived till he was 15 but then what he died from was quite common. It is only in modern times that what he had can be treated. There is also a chance that Henry VIII was a carrier of the TB and he accidentally gave it to both of his sons which is nothing to do with who Henry was jumping into bed with
We’ve seen everyone’s head bounce in all of these historical dramas. Why don’t we ever see Anne’s?
Isn't that even historcally correct? they ordered the most "famous" executioner from france. I think his sword still is in some museum today.
"When negotioations and compromise fail and the only cause is to destroy your enemy, before they wake in the morning, Rev, have the axe in the hand". Reminds me of the cruel decision the Ukrainians are facing dealing with warcriminal Putin.
Of course in modern times Henry would be sitting in a cell being studied by people in white coats but for the time, 500 odd years ago this was actually “civilised”, I’m pretty sure people then must have seen it for what it was but saying as much would have had them suffer horribly. This is why society evolves people.
I just hope in another 500 years Henry is dismissed as inconsequential. Probably the worst thing I can think of to annoy him.
She must have been a phenomenal woman to have met.
A force of nature
Anne was sad that she was executed by guillotine
Why did the people react that way when saw the sword? Were they waiting for an axe?
Artistic licence.
And people still think, monarchy is something appreciable!
Don't cry, she gets reincarnated as Queen Elizabeth 2
Only for 2 seasons
And alot of the women/ Queens were INNOCENT!
lots of men were aswell
Kings are crazy. Why we like them is beyond me.
After tracing my family tree, I am actually related to Catherine Parr. - Joseph.
Why was she looking up at the tower?
Idk
Anne boleyn was executed by a sword instead of an axe
anne boleyn wrote a gable hood and an ermine fur coat
Just to be clear, this gives the impression that Henry married Jane Seymour on the same day that Anne was executed. He did not, they announced their engagement but didn't marry on the same day that Anne was killed.
I read in two sources that Henry & Jane were married 11 days after Anne’s execution.
@@Channel-lb1is At the beginning of the second series of Wolf Hall, it gives the impression that it happened on the same day.
@@slytheringingerwitch , that was dramatic license, but we know better.
@@Channel-lb1is But the ending of the last series didn't give that impression. But anyway we do know better.
They were engaged the next day and married ten days after that. She was picking out her wedding clothes on the day of her execution.
Henry VIII was a wicked king. The Church of England will not save him in the Final Judgment.
Why hasn't anyone attempted a DNA comparison with Anne's Daughter Elizabeth I remains to determine which of the bones (if any) were Anne's buried at St. Peter's Ad Vincula?
Because of multiple reasons. Anne bones were dug up during Queen Victoria reign. Before being reburied her bones were placed in a coffin and put back in the ground. To stop a further collapse a layer of concrete was poured over all the coffins. Besides the only ones who are questioning who the bones belonged to are modern day authors. The bones matched the description of Anne so why doubt that they were hers. Elizabeth is also buried in a church and at peace. Once you start unburying people then where does it ever end. Why not go into Henry Carey grave after Elizabeth and see if he is Henry VIII child after all. Since you already in Elizabeth grave why not hit up the princes in the tower. Anne of Cleeves next to see if she really was ugly. Get where I am going here. They are at peace so leave it at that
is that Adam Driver?
Wow, I didn’t know Jane Seymour was that old.
She was 29 when she died. 29 ladies followed her coffin in to mark her age at death
Where‘s her speech, before they did it?
„Good Christian people, I am come hither to die,
for according to the law, and by the law I am judged to die,
and therefore I will speak nothing against it.
I am come hither to accuse no man,
nor to speak anything of that,
whereof I am accused and condemned to die,
but I pray God save the king
and send him long to reign over you,
for a gentler nor a more merciful prince was there never:
and to me he was ever a good, a gentle and sovereign lord.
And if any person will meddle of my cause,
I require them to judge the best.
And thus I take my leave of the world and of you all,
and I heartily desire you all to pray for me.
O Lord have mercy on me, to God I commend my soul.
To Jesus Christ I commend my soul; Lord Jesus receive my soul.“
How ironic she played the queen on Netflix!
Marries Jane while Anne’s body rots in St. Peter ad Vincula.
Anne, you're fired!
How long is Claire Foy in this for?
That’s about it. A reprise of that last scene from the earlier season.
Best to see her in Wolf Hall, not Mirror and the Light.
Hold on that’s the queen.
"As the axe drops"? It appears whoever wrote the description hasn't watched any other movie on the subject, nor this video.
Or read a book.
Nah, too much to expect.
Henry wasn’t funny or eloquent. He was a monster.
How would you know. You weren’t there. By all accounts at the beginning he was very funny and had a common touch. He was no more a monster than anyone else. He just struggled with the pressure of trying to carry on a legacy. That fear and pressure was passed down by his own father. He as well as Henry mother knew the consequences if a legacy was not secure.
I never really thought about this.....someone, some poor person, had to be responsible for picking up the head and the body and disposing of them. Ick
It was her ladies in waiting from what I've read.
Thomas Cromwell was about nothing but his own power and advancement. May he rot in hell.
To think the current royal mob follows the Sins of Henry!
Henry the VIII, the original Mormon
That Henry VIII has not been vilified as one of the greatest monsters in history is a mystery to me. It’s a historical white wash.
Henry and others were products of their time - when power was achieved by force
and cunning - and was preserved in the same way against constant threat and
similar ambitions, often from those closest to them.
"A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."
@ True. Very true, unfortunately.
Depends on where you live as to whether you view Henry as the greatest monsters. In Scotland he wouldn't even make top five. For them the monster would always be Edward I. There are far worse monsters than Henry VIII
He is not highly thought of in the North of England where his suppression of The Pilgrimage of Grace was extreme and without pity.
Sure they could use AI to make actors like real historic characters, Henry VIII looks nothing like the old paintings of him.
You have to remember that the Henry during Anne time was still very athletic and slim. The Henry you referred to in those paintings came about after Jane died. He went into a deep grief which caused him to turn to comfort eating. Maybe not dealing with the loss of his mother and then losing his wife the same way caused it. Either way he did nothing but eat for two year after Jane died. He also stopped exercising by this point as well but his calorie intake was still the same as when he was exercise.
Wow, she looks just like Elizabeth II.
She intrigued to ensure the downfall of Cardinal Wolsey; the divorce of Queen Catherine and the degredation her daughter, the Princess Mary; and to secure the execution of Thomas More and several others equally blameless whom she believed stood in her way. Difficult to have much sympathy for her as her predicament was largely of her own making.
She should receive a royal pardon if you excuse the irony
Somebody’s shit don’t stink
BBC at there best.
...and it's a line drive to left field...
Such an evil person. We've heard his story so many times. Why such fascination with such people?
The first season was really well done, season two looks really fake and stupid. Doesn’t have the same feel, looks like a fantasy drama, not historical.
Henry, the 8th was an Ogre!
Not really
Ergh, spoilers!
Horrific times. We're not so far from total savagery.
Ahh the "Church of England" such a proud founding and pedigree.