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  • Опубліковано 12 січ 2024
  • The execution of Marie-Antoinette in 1793.
    Taken from Sir Ridley Scott's Epic "NAPOLEON" (2023)
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  • @dmann5938
    @dmann5938 3 місяці тому +56

    Inaccuracies aside, that’s one hell of a way to start a movie lmao

    • @gordonmohr2268
      @gordonmohr2268 2 місяці тому

      I watched several clips. youtube wants 24 bucks to rent it. Ill wait till the price comes down. but the clips looked entertaining. thats what it is, entertainment. so, anything else I can explain for you today? or are you done. sorry if your butt-hurt

    • @Veehartee
      @Veehartee 22 дні тому

      ​@@gordonmohr2268piracy is easier than you think

  • @w-james9277
    @w-james9277 Місяць тому +54

    They wouldn’t have thrown food at her because they didn’t have any. They were starving.

    • @EvanDonahue2277
      @EvanDonahue2277 Місяць тому +6

      It’s rotten

    • @mito88
      @mito88 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@EvanDonahue2277
      do starving people let food rot?

    • @six_idiots992
      @six_idiots992 Місяць тому +3

      I may be wrong but this is quite some time after the outbreak of the revolution. The shortage mostly had died down as it was only for a year or two due to bad weather.

  • @davidyoung5114
    @davidyoung5114 4 місяці тому +714

    If I may be allowed to count the inaccuracies of this scene: 1. Marie Antoinette was taken to Execution Square sitting backwards in the tumbril; 2. She wore a white dress; 3. Her hair had been cut short before being placed on the tumbril; 4. Her hands were bound when she was placed on the tumbril; 5. She stumbled while mounting the stairs, bumping into Chief Executioner Charles-Henri Sanson, and apologized, to which Sanson replied with 'Courage, Madam.'; 6. No one was EVER executed by kneeling and having their head placed in the lunette; they were always strapped to the bascule, and then slid into position; 7. She was the first person executed that day, so no blood would have been on the blade yet; 8. Napoleon was in his early 20's when he witnessed the execution, and not the age that Joaquin Phoenix appears as in the scene. (If anyone can spot anything else wrong with this scene, please comment!)

    • @alessandrocremaschini6057
      @alessandrocremaschini6057 4 місяці тому +195

      He didn't witness the execution because at the time he was in Toulon.

    • @jcalli66
      @jcalli66 4 місяці тому +43

      Well said...In addition to Phoenix being woefully miscast as Napoleon, the resemblance to actual history is even worse.

    • @waverider8549
      @waverider8549 4 місяці тому +36

      Also Marie Antoinette had that little frilled cap on. The one you see in the Jaques Louis David sketch

    • @gotoalex100
      @gotoalex100 3 місяці тому +31

      Is that Edith Piaf singing in the background? That is so 1940s.

    • @alessandrocremaschini6057
      @alessandrocremaschini6057 3 місяці тому +2

      @@gotoalex100 do you know what song is that?
      I've been looking for it.

  • @flatearthisahoax4030
    @flatearthisahoax4030 4 місяці тому +23

    When Napoleon heard the news that Louis the 16th was executed, he said "Such is the reward of kings", but when he heard the news that Marie Antoinette was executed, he said "What a horror!". Such contrast.

  • @rickgrandsbiscuits
    @rickgrandsbiscuits 4 місяці тому +33

    As inaccurate as this entire opening scene is, without historical context, I love the way she holds her head high while being jeered at and being pummeled by spoiled food. Then you see her facade break as she realizes the end is just seconds away. I've always been a Marie Antoinette apologist. She was a victim of circumstance and her death served only as a symbol. Yes, you just beheaded her. Did that make food suddenly appear on your table, were your ragged clothes suddenly made new, were your ill and starving children made healthy again? It would only take 10 years for the monarchy to be restored and this was all for naught.

    • @feliciasawyer3822
      @feliciasawyer3822 3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed. They didnt need to execute her or the king imo

  • @ExtractorGames
    @ExtractorGames 4 місяці тому +41

    You have to admit, the sound design in this opening scene is incredibly haunting. Reminds me of Blade Runner.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 10 днів тому

      It’s an overall fantastic start to this movie from how masterfully directed it is and how beautifully stylized the movie opens as and is throughout! The movie IS fantastically well directed purely from the visuals, sound design, music, tone, atmosphere, art direction, and gorgeous cinematography throughout! And that’s easily a fact right there!

  • @Yassim33
    @Yassim33 3 місяці тому +33

    First scene and already mistakes.... it is proved that the audience was silent and, after the death of the Queen, left the place still in silence. Plus, Marie-Antoinette accidentally walked on her hangman's foot and apologized... "I am sorry, mister." So he responded "Be couragous, madame".

    • @empereurdugrandaveyron6477
      @empereurdugrandaveyron6477 3 місяці тому

      It's a movie, not an essay

    • @Yassim33
      @Yassim33 3 місяці тому

      @@empereurdugrandaveyron6477 For sure. But movies can also respect the real history and some movies could not be called "biographie" or "historic movies" when they do not respect the reality.

  • @cobracorporal6738
    @cobracorporal6738 Місяць тому +23

    "Pardon me sir, I meant not to do it"
    - Marie Antoinette's last words

  • @second.account2197
    @second.account2197 4 місяці тому +38

    For having a food shortage, they really did throw a lot of food at her

    • @rammiine
      @rammiine 4 місяці тому +12

      Normally it would be rotten food that was no good to eat for two reasons: 1. it smelled bad so extra humiliation 2. It was not edible.

    • @second.account2197
      @second.account2197 4 місяці тому +1

      @@rammiine Yea, i figured :))

    • @okosuntom2808
      @okosuntom2808 4 місяці тому

      those food thrown at her are probably rotten

    • @jean-louislalonde6070
      @jean-louislalonde6070 4 місяці тому +1

      They were throwing rotten food at her while they were eating their cake, watching her losing her head...

    • @ryanOGab
      @ryanOGab 3 місяці тому +2

      Rotten or not the still choose not to eat. Apparently getting sick thrills from blood was more important than their own survival.

  • @luvdomus
    @luvdomus 4 місяці тому +102

    Napoleon was 24 years old when Marie Antoinette was executed. Joaquin Phoenix is 48 and looks 60-- way too old to play the part. His miscasting ruins this movie.

    • @Maxime_G
      @Maxime_G 4 місяці тому +9

      And the thing is that he doesn't age in the movie, so there isn't even any effort made about it

    • @rickrizzo-gfilmproducer1310
      @rickrizzo-gfilmproducer1310 4 місяці тому +1

      I thought the exact same thing too; this role was not for him. I had no idea how old Joaquin was. I thought he was in his late 50's. Wow.

    • @traydaniel0403
      @traydaniel0403 4 місяці тому +4

      He doesn’t look like 60

    • @PortugalZeroworldcup
      @PortugalZeroworldcup 4 місяці тому

      Amd she was older I him
      But then who would've done better??

    • @luvdomus
      @luvdomus 4 місяці тому

      @@traydaniel0403 Joaquin Phoenix looks older than Tom Cruise, who is 61.

  • @DarkLordTran
    @DarkLordTran 3 місяці тому +26

    Marie Antionette’s beheading in this scene describes the historical accuracy Ridley Scott beheaded

    • @KMDragonS
      @KMDragonS 3 місяці тому +1

      I bet he only just focused on the major highlights. This being one of them.

  • @glenhirsch3994
    @glenhirsch3994 4 місяці тому +15

    No wonder why there were food shortages, they were throwing it all at people about to be executed

  • @ares8321
    @ares8321 4 місяці тому +28

    a film without any historical accuracy. Napoleon portrayed as a kind of clown always in heat.
    This scene then... I want to draw a veil of compassion over this scene.
    Queen Marie Antoinette went to the scaffold in the absolute silence of the crowd. She tripped on the last step and apologized to the executioner who held her up.
    Napoleon himself said of her: "A woman who had nothing but honors without power, a foreign princess, the most sacred of hostages, to drag her from the throne to the gallows, through all sorts of outrages, there is something worse in that of regicide".
    Ridley Scott, once again as in "Gladiator", misrepresents and rewrites history in the absurd idea of making his work more spectacular.
    My rating for this film is 2.5 out of 10

    • @bernarddiggins5404
      @bernarddiggins5404 4 місяці тому +1

      You're being generous.

    • @yaketysmack5512
      @yaketysmack5512 4 місяці тому

      Your critic trolling earns a solid 5.2. I see potential.

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 4 місяці тому +1

      Full version:
      “If it is not a subject of remorse, it must at least be a very great subject of regret for all French hearts that the crime committed in the person of this unfortunate queen. There is a big difference between this death and that of Louis XVI, although, certainly, he did not deserve his misfortune. This is the condition of kings, their life belongs to everyone; it is only they who cannot dispose of it; an assassination, a conspiracy, a cannon shot, these are their chances; Caesar and Henry IV were assassinated, the Alexander of the Greeks would have been assassinated if he had lived longer. But a woman who had nothing but honors without power, a foreign princess, the most sacred of hostages, dragging her from a throne to the scaffold through all kinds of outrages! There is something even worse than regicide there! » Nicolas François Mollien relates Napoleon's remarks on the execution of the deposed queen (taken from the Memoirs of a Minister of the Public Treasury 1780-1815)

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 4 місяці тому +13

    Interesting fun fact: Legendary actor Christopher Lee witnessed the last public guillotine execution ever held in France, the execution of convicted serial killer Eugen Weidmann on June 17, 1939. He was 17 years old. And then nearly 50 years later, he portrayed headsman Charles-Henri Sanson in a 1989 French TV drama about the French Revolution. Talk about ironic.

  • @malaisto925
    @malaisto925 3 місяці тому +13

    “How inaccurate do you want this scene?”
    Ridley Scott: “yes!”

  • @sunbeam231171
    @sunbeam231171 2 місяці тому +27

    Historically false, Napoleon never witnessed the execution of Queen Marie Antoinette since he was not in Paris. He had been in the South of France since July, participating from September to December in the siege of Toulon.
    I would never let an English director make a film about a historical figure like Napoleon.

    • @OtisF96
      @OtisF96 2 місяці тому +3

      Let me put your mind at ease - what you’re watching is called a ‘film’. It’s a series of moving images assembled to form a motion picture piece of entertainment. It is not fact, it is not documentary, it is only a film.

    • @POPE_FRANC1S
      @POPE_FRANC1S 2 місяці тому +1

      You realise the british don't all have some natural hatred towards napoleon?

    • @DaveFisher-cq2dr
      @DaveFisher-cq2dr 2 місяці тому

      exactly, so why show him there when he wasn't actually there?

    • @POPE_FRANC1S
      @POPE_FRANC1S 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Ievitation what does the director being English have to do with anything?

  • @Ohmygodstfu2045
    @Ohmygodstfu2045 3 місяці тому +17

    Napoleon movie- Made by a British director. Already knew it was going to be a disaster. Was proven correct. The 2002 miniseries is ten times better than this bullshit.

  • @zambimaru
    @zambimaru 3 місяці тому +11

    1:22 When I got home from seeing this movie I automatically looked up that song on the Internet.

  • @arandomship2454
    @arandomship2454 3 місяці тому +28

    If you care about how historically accurate this is then you are mature. History lovers who agree
    👇

    • @differentboy9697
      @differentboy9697 3 місяці тому +1

      The 2002 french miniseries was more accurate and interesting than what this garbage was.

  • @judah4111
    @judah4111 4 місяці тому +15

    The opening scene itself is the reason why I watched this 😅

  • @drmarkcthompson6504
    @drmarkcthompson6504 4 місяці тому +16

    Historically inaccurate. She was separated from her children long before her execution. She road sitting backwards with her hands already tied and hair cut

    • @red-one5923
      @red-one5923 4 місяці тому +3

      Cinema put everythings and lies in one scene!

  • @Suite_annamite
    @Suite_annamite 4 місяці тому +9

    *Fun fact:* Irish actress Catherine Walker portrays "Marie-Antoinette" here, but also played "Madame de Maintenon" in the 2015-2018 TV series "Versailles".

  • @feliciasawyer3822
    @feliciasawyer3822 3 місяці тому +16

    Marie Antoinette's hair was cut prior to her execution, and she also was forced to wear white. Also she had a priest with her in the cart in real life and idk if they actually threw food at her, shit they might have though because of how unfairly hated she was. I do wanna watch this movie for sure though. I get that it is just a movie and not a documentary but it is fun knowing the real history of what happened too. Napoleon actually married marie Antoinette's great niece after him and Josephine split.

    • @forrestpenrod2294
      @forrestpenrod2294 3 місяці тому

      What's weirder is the film gets this right later on.
      When Napoleon first meets Josephine she has shaved hair, wears just her white undergown, and a red necklace. This was a real style and statement made by many women who barely escaped the Guillotine, they were cosplaying how their relatives and friends would've looked when they went to the chop.

  • @MrLegbiter
    @MrLegbiter Місяць тому +20

    Historically, there is so much wrong with this scene. But hey, its Ridley Scott, the guy who always asks "Were You There?" Well, no, but a hell of a lot of others were-& recounted it for posterity. But Ridley's never let the facts get in the way of a dramatic movie scene. Which basically accounts for so much of this movie as a wild tale of fiction-not what actually happened.

    • @lukethomas.125
      @lukethomas.125 Місяць тому +2

      It’s basically a re-imagining version of Napoleon

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe 3 місяці тому +9

    Starting with the revolution of 1789, France had tried a whole list of political systems, only to have the Bourbons restored, 25 years later.

    • @CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou
      @CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Dusty338 Determined to get all the bad takes in, are we?
      If you love feudalism so much you are welcome to go live in a peasant's hovel and perform menial labor for your masters in as servile a manner as you like.

  • @vitogamaliel4490
    @vitogamaliel4490 3 місяці тому +15

    I had hope about this movie being made by ridley scott, knowing that he made the duelists. So sad of how it turned out...

    • @SprikSprak
      @SprikSprak 3 місяці тому +4

      Sadly it seems Ridely Scott has had his day, he hasn't made a good movie in a long while and at this point they're just selling his name

  • @coreymclernon
    @coreymclernon 3 місяці тому +32

    It’s a movie, entertainment. It’s not a documentary. Getting upset at something like this is ridiculous.

    • @charlesmaximus9161
      @charlesmaximus9161 3 місяці тому +7

      Thats awfully easy for you to say. This isn’t one of your idiotic marvel comic films. This Hollywood abomination is using the names and likenesses of real people and real lives. Toying with history is never a good thing. Although it is typically American, so I should not be surprised.

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo 3 місяці тому +5

      @@charlesmaximus9161 "boohoo America" except the director of this film is British you dunce lol

    • @dagsterblaster4973
      @dagsterblaster4973 3 місяці тому +2

      Nonsense! By changing factual events in movies about historical events, it's capable of misleading, and misinforming people about the past, that which has created our current societies. It's shameful. George Orwell wouldn't be surprised at how this effort to rewrite history has become wildly successful.

    • @fatbastard51
      @fatbastard51 3 місяці тому

      I can buy that to an extent, but this film takes huge liberties with history. I understand movies need to entertain but it's possible to be both historical accurate to a degree and entertain. a good example of this is "Master in commander far side of the world" ,"the death of Stalin" and "Apollo 13"

  • @motivationallizard6644
    @motivationallizard6644 3 місяці тому +10

    The only parts of the movie that I liked were the opening rendition of Ça ira and the set design. It’s ridiculous that the guy who wrote this movie literally read a short biography on Napoleon for the extent of his research into this film and did nothing else.

  • @deathisabe
    @deathisabe 17 днів тому +17

    Ridley scott a spiteful brit alas, this trainwreck had me in total disbelief as how could a man of the stature of Bonaparte be displayed in such rancid manner. The fact that they spent 200 million on this trash heap is so pathetic. English truly know how to bring down even their own achievements not withstanding those of their foes.

  • @racheleverett7940
    @racheleverett7940 4 місяці тому +15

    Maria behaved with dignity and did not start crying or begging for mercy.

    • @opfer88
      @opfer88 4 місяці тому +3

      Lmao you have to be kidding, even the king panicked and tried to run away. What you're watching there is Royalist propaganda little ignorant woman. Of course she was crying, most people would cry in such occasions, especially someone who has been treated well all her life.

    • @altinaykor364
      @altinaykor364 4 місяці тому

      @@opfer88 your pathetic nonsense are just revolutionary propaganda which by the way, as time progressed their lies were revealed just as much as their madness and stupidity! she didn't cry, she showed dignity, even had witnesses for it, she apologized to the executioner for accidentally stepping on his feet and there's also a last letter written by her to princess Elisabeth (guess who was the person who kept the letter and didn't allow it to be sent to Elisabeth and was instead kept in the hands of those in power for centuries) and your ridiculous words about her being treated well in her entire life! well, being neglected because of being the youngest child in a family with more than 10 kids, being queen of a racist country who never took her seriously as queen and never let go of her origins, being assaulted by everyone, in all ways for years, accused of things you never did or was even aware of, not having the right to have your own privacy and personal boundaries(which revolutionaries behaved much on this part) having your son being taken from you and be abused, being accused of incest and...if all of this sounds like being treated well, you're a lunatic! just like every other of those revolutionaries

    • @DavBlc7
      @DavBlc7 4 місяці тому

      Well, the drawing of her on a wheelcart showed she wore a sort of sleeping cap and her hair cut.
      I guess her hair was cut in the prison before she was being taken to the gallow.
      But the filmmakers failed to look at how she would look on way to gallow. Poor show!

  • @shiroamakusa8075
    @shiroamakusa8075 2 місяці тому +10

    They're not implying that Marie Antoinette was executed in 1789, right? Because the major event of that year was the storming of the Bastille and it was a couple of years and several major events later that first the king and then the queen got their height adjusted down. O yeah, and they also cut her hair before transporting her to the guillotine, so that it wouldn't get in the way like it does here.

  • @ivangomez123
    @ivangomez123 4 місяці тому +23

    As a historian, Ridley Scott took too many liberties with Napoleon to this movie.

    • @wjosephusw
      @wjosephusw 4 місяці тому +4

      "Get a life."

    • @nicholassorrenson5073
      @nicholassorrenson5073 3 місяці тому +3

      What like when he did gladiator none of the gladiators were fat nor was there advertisements in the arena. No was commodus killed in the arena but in his bath. Or the fact the crowds hated him when in fact they loved him. Or was balian of iblen in kingdom of heaven yound when the real o e was around 50 and disliked by Baldwin None of his movies are historically accurate bit instead use real life names for an entertaining story. If you want to watch a documentary then ridley Scott movie are not that

    • @ivangomez123
      @ivangomez123 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nicholassorrenson5073 Exactamente. You say it very good, its a Ridley Scott movie. Despite what my colleagues say, I enjoyed this movie but making a movie about the french emperor in a two hour and half movie thats a challenge.

  • @wronski11
    @wronski11 3 місяці тому +13

    Marie-Antoinette was 12 years younger the the actress portraying her. She was 37 and Luis XVI 38 respectively, when they were guillotined.

    • @paulhindenberg6364
      @paulhindenberg6364 3 місяці тому

      Thomas Jefferson told the French they needed to execute the aristocracy. He gave them the idea that the nobility needed to removed for the good of France. But like everything the French do is overdone and the children were also executed along with their parents. That was the Reign of Terror! Viva Le Roi

    • @mrgiraffelover7388
      @mrgiraffelover7388 Місяць тому

      Yes. Catherine Walker is now 48 years old but looks like what people in their mid to late 30s look during those times.

  • @AngryChineseWoman
    @AngryChineseWoman 4 місяці тому +29

    This movie is so bad and so historically inaccurate that it deserves to be watched in screener quality on an iPhone 3GS at 7 AM on a crowded train with $5 headphones

  • @traydaniel0403
    @traydaniel0403 4 місяці тому +11

    Lots of people in the comments are complaining that Joaquin Phoenix was in his late 40s when Napeoleon was in his early 20s when he witnessed the execution. So that doesn’t mean he’s couldn’t play at different age. What’s wrong with that? He’s not playing a teenager, because he’s too old

    • @josefavomjaaga6097
      @josefavomjaaga6097 4 місяці тому +5

      Phoenix was miscast, unfortunately. Not only Napoleon but also his generals were, like, half the age of most enemy generals. The young and wild, the rebels of Europe.
      And with Phoenix being (and looking! - he somehow manages to look older in the movie than he does in real life?) older than the actress playing Josephine, this completely reversed their roles. The age difference had huge importance in their relationship.

    • @traydaniel0403
      @traydaniel0403 4 місяці тому

      @@josefavomjaaga6097And he’s one of the producers too

  • @SouthPark333Gaming
    @SouthPark333Gaming 3 місяці тому +12

    Listen, yes, it's inaccurate, but I don't think the scene is meant to be intended as an actual objective event taking place within the narrative of the film. Rather, I see it as more akin to a dream sequence; Napoleon imagines seeing these events, or we see him see them because of the symbolic value.

    • @bobhart1506
      @bobhart1506 3 місяці тому

      Whatever it meant - Marie Antoinette deserves the respect and attention of the audience.

  • @brendafegley3317
    @brendafegley3317 4 місяці тому +11

    Josephine’s hair was cut short prior to execution.The stress aged her.

  • @italoluder
    @italoluder 4 місяці тому +11

    Marie Antoinette wore white and had her hair cut on her way to the scaffold. I hate when they do it wrong

    • @mbonnici3548
      @mbonnici3548 4 місяці тому +1

      And she apologised for having stepped on the executioner's foot rather than smirking to all those around her.

    • @dagsterblaster4973
      @dagsterblaster4973 3 місяці тому

      If I'm going to watch a movie about history....it should be accurate, and if it cannot be entirely accurate...at least make a significant effort. Way too much PC and Narrative in much of the content we see from Hollywood today about the past. I simply have decided to tune it all out, but the younger people no doubt watch this stuff and believe it actually happened the way it's presented.

    • @canaldojames7503
      @canaldojames7503 3 місяці тому

      @@dagsterblaster4973 That the fun about movies, it is all entertaiment not study. If you want to know the real story, go study

  • @billmorris2337
    @billmorris2337 4 місяці тому +12

    I think she has been grossly misrepresented throughout history....dragged away from her family when basically a child, in a loveless marriage during a phenomenally turbulent period in France....my heart breaks for her.

    • @lionelhutz5137
      @lionelhutz5137 4 місяці тому +1

      Loveless at first, yes, but eventually Marie and Louis would grow to be very affectionate toward one another.

  • @Lucifer-wz7uo
    @Lucifer-wz7uo 19 днів тому +8

    the cleaver is not even triangular. I'm not sure a blade like that can cut a head

  • @bronchitisgaming7790
    @bronchitisgaming7790 2 місяці тому +20

    Must be scary walking to your execution

  • @andrzejmaks
    @andrzejmaks 4 місяці тому +11

    BS. When Marie Antoinette was executed, Napoleon commanded the artillery during the siege of Toulon. Seems that this move has some historical discrepancies.

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo 3 місяці тому +3

      Its a movie

    • @marklivingstone3710
      @marklivingstone3710 3 місяці тому

      No mate, I asked Ridley about that. Apparently Napoleon caught the early morning flight to CDG, watched the execution and then flew back that afternoon. I wasn’t there but I guess Ridley might have been so well just have to take his word for it.🤪

  • @MTSeries-2017
    @MTSeries-2017 3 місяці тому +11

    Life is cruel Marie Anttoniete...

  • @nilocblue
    @nilocblue 4 місяці тому +28

    This movie was such a missed opportunity, and a real letdown. It had so much potential, and this opening was epic.

  • @tonyburzio4107
    @tonyburzio4107 4 місяці тому +109

    The Americans were appalled by their French cousins. Much of the Constitution is designed specifically to stop such atrocities.

    • @zdwade
      @zdwade 4 місяці тому +2

      The end of the day. The constitution is a piece of paper.

    • @bobbybinns379
      @bobbybinns379 4 місяці тому +10

      @@zdwade with these things called “Amendments” 😂 to update it as required to keep it relevant. Americans act like it was carved in stone by God.

    • @poling1990
      @poling1990 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@bobbybinns379 You clearly do not understand the constitution at all lol though it sounds like you aren't American so I can hardly expect any better.

    • @bobbybinns379
      @bobbybinns379 4 місяці тому +2

      @@poling1990 so it’s a “choice” for all Americans to be armed to the teeth and for horrendous mass killings to continually occur as a result? I get that in 1776 it made sense for people of a new country to be armed with flintlock muskets that took about 30 seconds to reload… but machine guns?!

    • @wisconsingunrunner
      @wisconsingunrunner 4 місяці тому +3

      @@bobbybinns379not american, so your opinion is irrelevant

  • @DaveFisher-cq2dr
    @DaveFisher-cq2dr 2 місяці тому +22

    3:30 why would Ridley Scott show Napoleon at Marie Antoinette's execution when he wasn't actually there in real life?

    • @tobiasdenhollander3210
      @tobiasdenhollander3210 2 місяці тому +3

      Are you seriously bringing up historical inaccuracies in this film? 😂

    • @DaveFisher-cq2dr
      @DaveFisher-cq2dr 2 місяці тому +2

      @@tobiasdenhollander3210just saying, like it says so on Wikipedia and for a real history fact that Napoleon really wasn't there

    • @tobiasdenhollander3210
      @tobiasdenhollander3210 2 місяці тому +4

      @@DaveFisher-cq2dr I know, but it was quite a joke from me because this whole movie is one big historical innaccuracy and it's funny you're focusing on one point.

    • @Michael.96
      @Michael.96 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe because Ridley Scott doesn't give a sh## about historical accuracy. 🤷‍♂

    • @DaveFisher-cq2dr
      @DaveFisher-cq2dr Місяць тому +1

      @@Michael.96don't say that about Ridley Scott, maybe he just did it to be different

  • @SusPine69
    @SusPine69 2 місяці тому +28

    France: had food shortages
    Also France: throws tons of food at a woman who's about to die

  • @spencerkindra8822
    @spencerkindra8822 Місяць тому +15

    The reign of terror is the definition of "revolutionary holocaust".

  • @keithss67
    @keithss67 4 місяці тому +9

    Even the mob admired her courage. She went out with great dignity

    • @Ham-Man-Hammy
      @Ham-Man-Hammy 4 місяці тому +2

      According to the movie. Another inaccuracy.

    • @keithss67
      @keithss67 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Ham-Man-Hammy actually, no. Many members of the crowd were interviewed after the execution. One man who saw it summed it up well “the jaded had courage” She met her fate much like the king. With dignity.

  • @FifteenthLegionOfficial
    @FifteenthLegionOfficial Місяць тому +15

    For me it is not the historical inaccuracies but why? Why does a film about Napoleon begin with the execution of Marie Antoinette? Apart from the historical Napoleon not having a hand in it, the opening does not effectively establish Napoleon as a character by giving the audience insight into his motivations and general psyche. Scott could have used this scene to bridged onto Napoleon reflecting on the Regin of Terror (which he disapproved of in private) and his personal ambitions. Alternatively, Scott could have opened with the storming of the Bastille, of which Napoleon was a helpless observer (instead of the execution) and used Napoleon's actual journal entries about the incident to accomplish the aforementioned.

    • @galahad1876
      @galahad1876 26 днів тому +2

      Still it was a good guillotine scene. Well, good, innacurate is the world
      Let's just say it was a guillotine scene xd

  • @HaloFlemz86
    @HaloFlemz86 6 днів тому +4

    I'm a big Marie Antoinette fan of her fairytale , but Hollywood movies made her seem like a saint and she tried to help some But she was never meant to be a queen and was never taught to be one but her mother and fate chose her to be one. But she was a terrible queen.

  •  2 місяці тому +6

    Watched it last night and enjoyed. Great guess there is a longer version.

  • @billsykes2977
    @billsykes2977 4 місяці тому +11

    1789? 1789!!!???

  • @mrrandom1265
    @mrrandom1265 4 місяці тому +24

    If you want to be totally inaccurate, at least include spacecraft and lasers. I would totally watch a movie with Napoleon fighting an alien invasion using nothing but his brilliant strategy... and lasers.

    • @IproPvP
      @IproPvP 4 місяці тому +1

      why dont they hire you to produce and direct movies......oh wait

    • @mrrandom1265
      @mrrandom1265 4 місяці тому +2

      @@IproPvP Do you want to invest in my project? It's called Napolaser: French Emperor vs Alien Emperor. I need 200 million dollars.

    • @UnicornPizza
      @UnicornPizza 4 місяці тому +3

      I’m still waiting for that movie portraying Julius Caesar invading Poland with panzers

    • @jerryhu4763
      @jerryhu4763 3 місяці тому

      Napoleon Bonaparte vs. Aliens would be the new Abraham Lincoln vs. Vampires lmao

  • @danieltobin4498
    @danieltobin4498 3 місяці тому +9

    I believe her last words were "Sorry" or something...because she accidentally stepped on the executioner's foot XD

  • @cleargun7
    @cleargun7 4 місяці тому +7

    3:10 Damm, no words

  • @Diddy_Kongs_Left_Foot
    @Diddy_Kongs_Left_Foot Місяць тому +31

    this film is only good for entertainment rather than learning history, it is inaccurate and sometimes dull but a meh

    • @freyasworn2600
      @freyasworn2600 Місяць тому +4

      movies should only ever be entertainment, otherwise a documentary or a book would be best suited to learning

    • @moisessantos1714
      @moisessantos1714 Місяць тому +3

      I'd say that it isn't good for entertainment either

    • @asellandrofacchio7263
      @asellandrofacchio7263 Місяць тому

      It s-u-c-k-s at entertainment too. Boring.

  • @youtubedeletesmychannels2329
    @youtubedeletesmychannels2329 9 днів тому +6

    Only here for the song

  • @bobhart1506
    @bobhart1506 3 місяці тому +6

    I’m not entirely sure why they chose the execution of Marie Antoinette to start this film and then proceeded to present it with as many inaccuracies as possible. Otherwise the film was a nice biopic.

  • @andrewnorth6472
    @andrewnorth6472 3 місяці тому +17

    Executing Marie-Antoinette was definitely one of the most inglorious moments of the First French Republic; they could have sent her into exile back to
    Austria and achieved their ends without this unnecessary act of savagery.

    • @salvatoremacri3343
      @salvatoremacri3343 3 місяці тому

      100% agreed

    • @mmaarkooss
      @mmaarkooss 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree my friend but try to tell that to hard working people who pay taxes , starve and loosing family members. I am from Greece the very first country who rebel against the kings and set democracy. for the last 40 years since I was 6 years old I saw my country going downhill while taxes going uphill . Political scandals succeed one after the other like a barrel with no end while tax evasion has no end for the rich and the entrepreneurs . and above all that with out being asked with political debate -election as it was our given wright they open the borders for the immigrants to come in . Now after 31 years immigrants have assault rifles organized crime selling cocaine and other drugs they have prostitution trafficking and you see mothers sisters wives ending up as drug whores and that is not the end there is male prostitution as well and if you dare to speak you might be brainwashed in order to change your sexual preferences and at the end you are gonna get raped having ptsd and trying to restore your brain . I wasn't asked for that, now ask me if I would send people responsible in exile ( especially when it is well known that they have stolen money from the state waiting with passports on hand ready to flee) or in guillotine and I believe you already know what the answer will be. After I saw the movie in cinema I can't stop listening "Edith Piaf Le Ca Ira " and dreaming of better days.

    • @brunolebris6264
      @brunolebris6264 3 місяці тому +2

      En tant que français , la révolution française est une horreur absolue , les bolcheviques n'ont rien inventé, ils ont tout copié sur nous .
      La révolution française est une révolution bourgeoise bancaire et mobilière, intéressez vous a la loi Le Chapelier !! .
      Depuis que ce pays est républicain , ils n'y ont fait que des conneries !! , mis a part la séquence Gaullienne 58/ 68 .
      Napoléon n'a jamais été a la bastille a cette époque.
      Il est l'enfant de la révolution , mis a part son génie militaire et de planification et j'en passe , un génie !! , je lui reproche son côté carolingien a la charlemagne.
      Cette obsession délirante a faire un empire !! . Ce n'est pas français , les français ne savent pas faire !! Et les empires sont toujours voués a la chute .
      Waterloo signe la fin de la géopolitique française .
      Ils suivront la pax britanica comme des chiens !! . Guerre de crimée, 1er guerre mondiale .
      S'en suivra la pax americana, les politiques français ont trahit leur nation en léchant le cul des usa .
      Il n'y a que De Gaulle qui n'a pas trahit et qui au fond de lui était un monarchiste !! .
      Sarkozy est le grand traître , son fils spirituel macron est le pire du pire des traîtres.
      C'est une saloperie !! . Nous les vrais patriotes français reprendront ce pays , nous sortiront de l'union européenne, de l'euro et de l'otan et nous pratiqueront l'epuration aux traîtres de ces 50 dernières années.

  • @pizzaman6784
    @pizzaman6784 4 місяці тому +6

    I feel like they went into the French Revolution stuff more than they needed to in the beginning of the movie. Even a 5 hour movie would be hard to do justice to Napoleon's life. I would be better to stick to the stuff most directly relating to Napoleon, especially since he wasn't even there in real life.

  • @srfloppas4904
    @srfloppas4904 12 днів тому +6

    music name : le ca ira

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 3 місяці тому +2

    3:28- looking too old for that year, but expression already indicating he's thinking of how to make himself master of this braying gutter rabble around him, and knowing he will one day do so.

  • @justiceavenger275
    @justiceavenger275 4 місяці тому +13

    Justice for Marie... She's not the reason that France's ruins....

    • @altinaykor364
      @altinaykor364 4 місяці тому +1

      But her grandniece will be! well, not exactly the main reason, but she will be the second Empress of French who by the way, abandons them in the merciful, forgiving and totally not humiliating hands of Russians and English, Prussians and...not that they didn't deserve it, she was actually kind to them for tolerating them for the amount of time she did

  • @0I0II000
    @0I0II000 3 місяці тому +6

    Edith Piaf dropping bars.

  • @larry1824
    @larry1824 3 місяці тому +5

    Inaccurate but helluva movie

  • @CowboysCrusaderTTC
    @CowboysCrusaderTTC 4 місяці тому +6

    This movie has all the building blocks it needs to be at least a fun Hollywood romp.
    It just needs some tender loving care in the editors room. A little snip here, a trim here, a remix there...
    This can be fixed.

    • @protector_of_the_realms
      @protector_of_the_realms 4 місяці тому

      Tbh I don’t think that’s the problem. It’s how they went about telling the whole story and how they made Napolean look. I think maybe it could’ve used more of the battles and politics perhaps but certainly nothing needed to be cut imo. They just went about it wrong, portrayed things the wrong way and the acting and directing isn’t good to how it should be

    • @CowboysCrusaderTTC
      @CowboysCrusaderTTC 4 місяці тому

      @@protector_of_the_realms My approach is, there's no such thing as an unsalvageable movie with over 6 hours of processed material.
      People are gonna not like the movie because they don't want to like the movie. The goal is to make the movie as enjoyable for those who want to like it as possible. ;)

  • @yoyoyickityyo
    @yoyoyickityyo 3 місяці тому +4

    I actually liked the film. Phoenix phones in his performance, yes, but Vanessa Kirby is exceptional in it and found it entertaining

  • @Aicher_your_fellow_comrade
    @Aicher_your_fellow_comrade 3 місяці тому +8

    3:18 JESUS CHRIST 😰

  • @calliefinck6275
    @calliefinck6275 4 місяці тому +13

    Poor Marie

    • @KatoSantana
      @KatoSantana 4 місяці тому +1

      Comparado a lo que hizo, es una bendición ese castigo

    • @nosleep333
      @nosleep333 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KatoSantanay que hizo según tu?

    • @altinaykor364
      @altinaykor364 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KatoSantana ¡Ella no hizo nada! ¡No intentes dar estereotipos que creas que son ciertos sobre ella, ya que se ha demostrado que son incorrectos!👎¡Además, nada de lo que ella pudo haber hecho se acerca a las cosas que le hicieron! ¡Quitándose a su hijo, abusando de él, acosándola de todas las formas imaginables una y otra vez! acusándola de incesto! todo esto es imperdonable e irredimible y ella nunca estuvo cerca de tanta maldad contra esa gente estúpida

  • @nathandomke2721
    @nathandomke2721 4 місяці тому +4

    It's an incredible thing when the desperate need for change overpowers the fear of death, and the masses truly just take things into their own hands. Ofc the French Revolution ended up turning into somewhat of a fustercluck for everyone, but my point remains.

  • @yrnsmadeit
    @yrnsmadeit 3 місяці тому +5

    Oh shit they actually showed that

  • @aztro4010
    @aztro4010 4 місяці тому +18

    Right off the bat theirs some inaccuracies
    1. Marie never wore a dark blue dress, she would've worn white.
    2. She also would've worn some bonnet on her head.
    3. Napoleon didn't go to her execution, in real life, he was on the other side of the country.
    Ca Ira by Edith Piaf added in this scene was interesting though, so I'll give this scene points for that.

    • @bobbybinns379
      @bobbybinns379 4 місяці тому +8

      100% and she was sketched by Jacques David on the day, so we know exactly what she looked like, to counter Ridley Scott saying, “ExcUse mE m8, wERE yOu tHerE?”

    • @poling1990
      @poling1990 4 місяці тому +2

      So...what exactly is wrong with making small historical changes for the sake of improving the narrative? I watch documentaries for accuracy and historical Epics for the history inspired story.

    • @erikswanson5753
      @erikswanson5753 4 місяці тому +1

      Did they ever actually say in this scene that it was Marie Antoinette? Thousands of people, men and women, died this way.

    • @bobbybinns379
      @bobbybinns379 4 місяці тому +2

      @@poling1990 because it’s not marketed as game of thrones - it’s marketed as a biopic of a real person, which usually implies a high degree of accuracy. Look at Oppenheimer. It doesn’t matter that Gladiator wasn’t historically accurate because the main character was fictional.

    • @MrIrishscouse
      @MrIrishscouse 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@erikswanson5753 It's mentioned in the opening title sequence.

  • @KyleShiflet13666
    @KyleShiflet13666 3 місяці тому +2

    This was directed by ridley scott dont expect accracy expect entertainment and i was entertained i love historically accurate movies but this film was fun to watch

  • @worldentertainmentvang7307
    @worldentertainmentvang7307 3 місяці тому +3

    0:57 Last days of the Constitutional Guards, being disbanded and protected their own Queen.

  • @emmae5939
    @emmae5939 Місяць тому +6

    Is there anyone who actually likes this film, because I’m seeing a lot of hate here.

  • @alcahallic4526
    @alcahallic4526 4 місяці тому +22

    This scene and this film are about as accurate as Braveheart and Gladiator. This is saying it is 75% inaccurate, the objective of the filmmakers is to entertain audiences with loosely based historical figures and events. Sacrifice accuracy for dramatic effect, if you want some accuracy then watch documentaries on the Napoleonic Wars. Having studied historiography and found that throughout time even the best of historians have been proven inaccurate and the history books have to be revised.

    • @BattleAxe1345
      @BattleAxe1345 4 місяці тому

      Indeed. Just to nitpick on this scene, at this point they had cut most of Marie's hair short so as to not get in the blades way. Also she wore a plain white gown and cap at the time of her execution. There's a sketch done of her that shows what she looked liked on her way to the guillotine.

    • @alcahallic4526
      @alcahallic4526 4 місяці тому

      I have also read that she did not say 'Let them eat cake' during the event.@@BattleAxe1345

    • @Maxime_G
      @Maxime_G 4 місяці тому +1

      Then why did he put dates, locations and numbers if it's not supposed to be historicaly accurate ? Stop trying to defend this terrible thing of a movie

  • @jcalli66
    @jcalli66 4 місяці тому +2

    A pretty cool tourist attraction to visit in Paris is The Conciergerie where Antoniette's jail cell was, which has several of her personal belongings, along (ironically) with Robespierre's cell, where he himself was held before he was guillotined 8 months after the Queen was.

  • @amalmathew.
    @amalmathew. 4 місяці тому +7

    does someone know what song is playing in background?

    • @eloreev
      @eloreev 4 місяці тому +3

      ça ira - edith piaf

    • @mrrandom1265
      @mrrandom1265 4 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/bzu01gO3pi4/v-deo.htmlsi=1p2-2wb5jfbNpXBj

  • @BigBrotherTheWatcher1984
    @BigBrotherTheWatcher1984 3 місяці тому +5

    I thought her hair was a boat

  • @Mitch-wc9zx
    @Mitch-wc9zx 4 місяці тому +6

    Worst miscast in history the director is hopefully embarrassed

  • @Shagress528
    @Shagress528 4 місяці тому +4

    Oh what fun it was

  • @mcs-bl6sg
    @mcs-bl6sg 4 місяці тому +20

    Is it just me or does the music in this scene just feel...out of place? Like, it sounds contemporary for 1789 France.

    • @MrPolycarpe13
      @MrPolycarpe13 4 місяці тому +5

      Its a Ridley film, not a Kubrick.

    • @redjev
      @redjev 4 місяці тому +1

      I mean... on kristen dunst movie playing marie. the played "I want candy"... and had converse on scene.... it's just a movie

    • @titanicstory1837
      @titanicstory1837 4 місяці тому +3

      Marie Antoinette was executed in 1793, the background music of “An Ça ira” was written in 1790

    • @lhistoireendetail5832
      @lhistoireendetail5832 4 місяці тому

      La musique c est « ha ça ira » grande chanson révolutionnaire donc oui je la trouve super bien placé.

    • @HomoChomsky
      @HomoChomsky 4 місяці тому

      @@lhistoireendetail5832 Et elle était chantée de cette manière, au 18ème siècle?

  • @user-lj8bw6fm9d
    @user-lj8bw6fm9d 3 місяці тому +6

    Evreyone says how inaccurate this is, but I actually like it - it has nice aestetic, perfect mood, good acting, suitable song for a soundtrack and the idea of writing the title like with a feather is very original. And the scene where Napoleon is like a part of the crowd (yes, it didn't happened in real life) has realy powerfull dramaturgy effect.

  • @VictorHarderHesel
    @VictorHarderHesel 4 місяці тому +19

    Someone needs to stop Ridley. This is getting embarrassing.

  • @boi9428
    @boi9428 3 місяці тому +7

    1:43 Her physiognomy is beautiful

    • @Brookigetit
      @Brookigetit 2 місяці тому +3

      Absolutely beautiful actress

    • @boi9428
      @boi9428 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Brookigetit Indeed

  • @billgallaher339
    @billgallaher339 4 місяці тому +5

    I love Joaquin Phoenix, but "A young artillery officer" he ain't. The depth that comes with age detracts from the story of a young man driven by ego, pride for country, optimism and boundless energy soaring high but then crashing. Now centering the movie on an older, disgraced Napoleon convincing himself that once he escapes Elba that everyone will rally to him (with the scenes of his rise in flashbacks as he convinces himself of his divine right) and then to see that whole premise crumble as no one shows up to support him - now THAT is something JP would CRUSH.

    • @powderedwiglouis1238
      @powderedwiglouis1238 4 місяці тому +1

      I love joaquin too but he is way too damn old to play a 24 year old napoleon ... theres only so much suspension of disbelief can do

  • @singstreetcar5881
    @singstreetcar5881 3 місяці тому +17

    Why are they throwing food at her? I thought there was food shortage and hunger in the land

    • @randomobserver8168
      @randomobserver8168 3 місяці тому +2

      Rotten food. But also, she was executed a full four years after the start of the revolution in 1789, longer after she was alleged to have told them to eat cake. There wasn't constant famine in France the whole time, not even with France getting into war with all its neighbours around this point.

  • @dianecostanza
    @dianecostanza 3 місяці тому +1

    First mistake in the first thirty seconds… you can’t read the opening text because it disappears too fast. Does anyone on these movies understand that there are slow readers out there? I read pretty fast but even I couldn’t get the full sentences before they disappeared. Don’t they have testers on staff to time it?

  • @ryanparadise9677
    @ryanparadise9677 4 місяці тому +9

    What a time to be alive

    • @tonyburzio4107
      @tonyburzio4107 4 місяці тому

      They almost lost Democracy for humanity for another thousand years. The French are terrible.

    • @erikswanson5753
      @erikswanson5753 4 місяці тому

      Or dead.

  • @robnewman6101
    @robnewman6101 Місяць тому +9

    I Respect for Marie Antoinette.

  • @dimitri_stag4498
    @dimitri_stag4498 4 місяці тому +8

    Disappointing in so many ways

  • @kurt132m
    @kurt132m 4 місяці тому +1

    Does anyone know wich music is playing in the background

    • @friedrichii41
      @friedrichii41 4 місяці тому +5

      Edith Piaf's cover of ''Le "ça ira" for the 1953 movie ''Royal Affairs in Versailles'' / ''Si Versailles m’était conté''

  • @protector_of_the_realms
    @protector_of_the_realms 4 місяці тому +4

    Probably the best or second best scene in the film imo. Most emotionally charged and resonant and probably ironically the most historically accurate even though it was nowhere near historically accurate at all still lmao

    • @powderedwiglouis1238
      @powderedwiglouis1238 4 місяці тому

      Because napoleon was nowhere near paris when queen marie antoinette was guillotined ....

  • @stephenb2276
    @stephenb2276 2 місяці тому +5

    Cool, let's all copy Quentin tarantino instead of using some weird harpsikle type music of the time. With the slow mo, would have put an even erier setting on top of an already scary situation

  • @NightWanderer31415
    @NightWanderer31415 4 місяці тому +17

    Marie Antoinette was executed at the Place de la Révolution (present day Place de la Concorde). The location shown in the movie looks nothing like it.

    • @DistinguishedCranberry
      @DistinguishedCranberry 4 місяці тому +1

      ok but she still went chop no life boom yes movie good lobotomy

    • @canadianbakin1304
      @canadianbakin1304 4 місяці тому +2

      it was also silent not a riot when she was hung

    • @kvanduijvenbode
      @kvanduijvenbode 4 місяці тому

      @@canadianbakin1304 She was not hung... omg...

    • @v.konings1222
      @v.konings1222 4 місяці тому

      Sorry they couldn't block off the place de la concorde for several days for filming and dress it up as 18th century France. I swear people nitpick the fuck out of this movie. The movie is an artistic impression not a history book.

    • @NightWanderer31415
      @NightWanderer31415 4 місяці тому

      ​@@v.konings1222the french movie "La Révolution Française" did a far better job in the 80s... so why not Ridley with a much bigger budget?

  • @nicolasboccquet3378
    @nicolasboccquet3378 День тому +1

    Ce n est pas effectivement le fil historique de Napoléon mais ce début donne bien l ambiance politique et l esprit révolutionnaire de l époque que Napoléon a su utiliser politiquement pour devenir le chef des français et surtout les risques pris pour y arriver.
    Un échec et on finissait à la guillotine

  • @KingBowser77766
    @KingBowser77766 4 місяці тому +1

    The second best scene of the movie

  • @N.A.S101
    @N.A.S101 Місяць тому +9

    If she had just left with the Countess of Artois and Provence she would have lived much longer. Its so crazy how the crowd treated her and didnt care she was the daughter of a Holy Roman Empress who had the biggest empire in Europe at the time. Oh such a pity

    • @galahad1876
      @galahad1876 26 днів тому +2

      Well she wasted a lot of money while people were starving and dying so... I understand them

    • @N.A.S101
      @N.A.S101 24 дні тому +2

      @galahad1876 yea I agree but she could have easily escaped France in 1789 with her sisters in law Marie Josephine and Marie Therese or with the aunts of her husband Adélaïde and Victoire and spend a few years away in exile then in no time she would have been safely restored

    • @SergioBecerraII
      @SergioBecerraII 24 дні тому

      Another thing that no realized while she was still queen and then imprisoned, that she was suffering from cancer in her uterus.

  • @funkydozer
    @funkydozer 4 місяці тому +12

    Such a nothing movie. Utterly forgettable. If you want a great Napoleonic film, The Duellists is still by far the best.

    • @LTD538
      @LTD538 4 місяці тому

      I liked it