Mrs. Kennedy Apologizes To The Queen | The Crown (Claire Foy, Jodi Balfour)

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  • Mrs. Kennedy (Jodi Balfour) comes back to the palace with her tail between her legs to apologize to the Queen (Claire Foy) for her harsh words.
    🔎The Crown Season 2, Episode 8 'Dear, Mrs. Kennedy'
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  • @MovingPicsOfficial
    @MovingPicsOfficial  25 днів тому +111

    Are you a person that can forgive and forget?

    • @devingibson4463
      @devingibson4463 25 днів тому +6

      no

    • @Iamnobody88884
      @Iamnobody88884 25 днів тому +2

      No im bloody not

    • @princered4
      @princered4 24 дні тому +13

      I could, especially if one has a very good explanation of why they did what they did like Mrs. Kennedy gave.

    • @ms.t7614
      @ms.t7614 24 дні тому

      That is a big NOPE! I wish I could, but I still wanna bitch slap my sister-in-law for something she did 15 years ago! 😂

    • @Sorchia56
      @Sorchia56 24 дні тому +7

      I can and do forgive. I work on forgetting by either eliminating the offending party from my life, (who needs toxicity and drama?), or through discussion and prayer. Holding on to transgressions only harms my peace more and I’ve no time for that. I have a beautiful life surrounded by people who treasure and respect me as I do them. It makes life so much easier.

  • @TheFiown
    @TheFiown 24 дні тому +851

    The best acting with Foy is when she does nothing or says nothing, it's all in the eyes and body language, it's genius.

    • @Dessert_x_Tat
      @Dessert_x_Tat 24 дні тому +14

      She is brilliant.

    • @RevWarRev
      @RevWarRev 16 днів тому +6

      She was amazing in this role!

    • @menchualcarazmoreno1743
      @menchualcarazmoreno1743 13 днів тому +7

      She was the best Queen in the show and saying this as a Olivia Colman fan.

    • @Dessert_x_Tat
      @Dessert_x_Tat 13 днів тому +3

      @@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Well said. I agree with you. She is the best even though Colman rocks, hands down. :)

    • @Gusfer-ze8lw
      @Gusfer-ze8lw 2 дні тому

      @@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Olivia Colman is just like Viola Davis... a lot of buzz and overrated comments, but average delivery in most of their acting

  • @ServandoIV
    @ServandoIV 17 днів тому +268

    Those who admit and apologize in person are admirable.
    Those who forgive are even more.

    • @DodderingOldMan
      @DodderingOldMan 12 днів тому +10

      'To err is human, to forgive is divine.'

    • @JoanMorrison-vq2jc
      @JoanMorrison-vq2jc 10 днів тому +2

      @ServandoIV. Very well said. Be happy. 😊😊

    • @JoanMorrison-vq2jc
      @JoanMorrison-vq2jc 10 днів тому +1

      ​@@DodderingOldMan Beautifully stated! 🎉🎉🎉

    • @iFryTube
      @iFryTube 5 днів тому +2

      No, not even more lol its easy to forgive, hard to admit you're wrong

  • @joshuahoward6845
    @joshuahoward6845 23 дні тому +345

    It’s scenes like this that remind me of how much World history the Queen experienced during her reign…how many world rulers came and went in her time.

    • @iamgermane
      @iamgermane 15 днів тому

      There is a President Reagan movie coming out!

    • @user-yc2oz8kc5k
      @user-yc2oz8kc5k 9 днів тому +2

      She reigned thru 12 or 13 US presidential administrations, and who knows how many PM's. RIP E2R.

    • @gc3847
      @gc3847 4 дні тому

      You do know this never happened ?

  • @user-sv7fd6es6s
    @user-sv7fd6es6s 23 дні тому +386

    When you find out the person you are envious of has a worse life than you.

    • @Michael-hb4wc
      @Michael-hb4wc 18 днів тому +50

      My grandma told me, you never know what hell someone else lives

    • @nassauguy48
      @nassauguy48 13 днів тому

      Being a woman in the Kennedy family was a ticket to Hell.

    • @iFryTube
      @iFryTube 5 днів тому +4

      The Queens life was very rough at times, especially toward the end. Also being in a cage, most people wouldnt envy that. Jackie spent most of her life free as a bird. Far from perfect but most of her life was free.

  • @hiyahandsome
    @hiyahandsome 15 днів тому +86

    Jodi Balfour certainly has Jackie's voice exactly right, such a shame that the wig, makeup and costume departments let her down so badly.

  • @wickedjr70
    @wickedjr70 22 дні тому +263

    You could tell that the Queen admired Jackie as well, because it truly hurt her when she heard what Jackie had said about her. It also touched her when Jackie apologized her.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 19 днів тому

      Jackie was nasty to many people. Even worse when she was drunk.

    • @SandySaunders9142
      @SandySaunders9142 8 днів тому +4

      You know this is scripted and not a documentary, right?! Lol!

    • @wickedjr70
      @wickedjr70 8 днів тому +4

      @@SandySaunders9142 yeah, no shit.

    • @gc3847
      @gc3847 4 дні тому +1

      @@SandySaunders9142 save your breath Sandy ,they havent a clue.

    • @SandySaunders9142
      @SandySaunders9142 3 дні тому +1

      @gc3847 Yeah, sad, but true.

  • @makeitmakesense2616
    @makeitmakesense2616 13 днів тому +67

    The actress playing Mrs Kennedy does that booigse New England Grace Kelly accent so delicately and its flawless

    • @nassauguy48
      @nassauguy48 11 днів тому +1

      But Jackie was from Long Island. She had more of a New York accent.

    • @makeitmakesense2616
      @makeitmakesense2616 11 днів тому +1

      @@nassauguy48 Grace Kelly was from Philadelphia, but it's all blue blood old money and boarding schools

    • @clairefb29
      @clairefb29 10 днів тому +1

      And Jodi is South African! 😂 A truly global situation with her voice. ❤

    • @micheleMAGGIO-m8j
      @micheleMAGGIO-m8j 8 днів тому +3

      @@makeitmakesense2616 Grace Kelly was not a blue blood; her father was an Irish American bricklayer who made a lot of money. She acquired her patrician accent when she became an actress and her family teased her about it. But she was gorgeous and classy and the posh accent suited her.

    • @trende1378
      @trende1378 7 днів тому +2

      > booigse
      the fucking what

  • @louisefarrar6037
    @louisefarrar6037 25 днів тому +475

    Elizabeth enacts her power really well. Windsor is her home, her turf and she exposes Jackie Kennedy to British tradition and systems with the marching soldiers, the servants, British food and tea. The fact that the servants respond to her at the drop of a hat. Then she proceeds to tell Jackie Kennedy, 'I'm sure what you said wasn't as bad as everyone's making it out to be, but even if it was, it doesn't matter much because we barely know each other and we're not friends.' BURN!

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 24 дні тому +48

      You're forgetting one thing. Jackie herself was raised well and her parents had servants and big houses. They also took tea regularly in the English way and tradition. That was the way of the upper classes in the U.S. back in the day. So I don't think that part of it phased her one bit.

    • @Jurrasick
      @Jurrasick 23 дні тому +15

      The tiny, tiny island nation, far reduced from its former colonial glory. The tired old protocol of a much reduced royal office was all that the queen could muster to impose some modicum of authority. The island nation the size of Ohio.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 23 дні тому +1

      @@Jurrasick If you're talking just England and not the entire United Kingdom, then it would be closer in size to New York State, not Ohio.

    • @Vespasian705
      @Vespasian705 23 дні тому +10

      @@retroguy9494 He's also forgetting that she was the Queen of considerably more than just the UK. The Commonwealth of Nations covers more land area than any other union of nations, covering some 21% of the total land area of the Globe, and the sum of it's GDP makes it one of the largest economic powers in the world. 'Reduced', sure, '...some modicum of authority.', now that is just ignorant.

    • @ElizabethII-1952
      @ElizabethII-1952 23 дні тому +12

      @@Jurrasick Quality over quantity
      At least we have some class on this island the size of "Ohio"

  • @edwardnashen5960
    @edwardnashen5960 25 днів тому +402

    Elizabeth looks suspiciously at Jackie all through the scene. She doesn't trust her. Claire Foy is simply amazing!

    • @DannyEastVillage
      @DannyEastVillage 25 днів тому +46

      and immediately softens when Mrs Kennedy mentions her post-natal depression.

    • @dbyers3897
      @dbyers3897 25 днів тому +17

      ER sees JK is being fulsome & honest near the end. Who would say such things just to heal an unimportant relationship?

    • @brt5273
      @brt5273 24 дні тому +23

      Forgiving and making nice is good, but trusting somone who has cut you would be foolish.

    • @robpolaris7272
      @robpolaris7272 24 дні тому +16

      Why would she? She comes into her home, acts like she likes her then says degrading things about her for attention at a party. Tacky.
      I’m sure she is questioning if this is just some tactic to regain her reputation after embarrassing herself.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 24 дні тому

      @@robpolaris7272 I think she was actually being very honest and open; penitent and contrite. That is what is missing in people today. And if someone IS kind or apologetic, others are too quick to automatically assume its phony. Perhaps because people hardly do it anymore.
      It's widely known NOW that JFK was being injected with all kinds of drugs by the doctor now known as 'Doctor Feelgood.' But do you have any idea what it would have done based on 1960's attitudes if the Queen ever told what Jackie told her?

  • @johnheppenstall4904
    @johnheppenstall4904 25 днів тому +411

    I know it's a load of fictional tosh, but the acting is superb. Claire Foy is exceptional.

    • @mangopilar
      @mangopilar 24 дні тому +13

      Unfortunately, we will never know, what really happened between them.

    • @BrettL250
      @BrettL250 24 дні тому +8

      @@mangopilar that’s the way it is with all TV shows and movies based on real historical figures. All of it is true 100% BS and made up. Entertaining though. This scene was great.

    • @lordalessan
      @lordalessan 24 дні тому +10

      Peter Morgan did confirm that Jacqueline Kennedy said some harsh words about Elizabeth II and he dramatized that here.

    • @bbybella9937
      @bbybella9937 24 дні тому +18

      @@lordalessanNo he didn’t. There are people who said they think Jackie said this and that. That’s all. There’s no confirmation. There are rumors and gossip.

    • @EughhBrothereughh
      @EughhBrothereughh 24 дні тому +11

      ​@@bbybella9937right? They were dying to pit two women against each other

  • @eckosandoi
    @eckosandoi 24 дні тому +243

    .... "Mrs. Kennedy, do sit down".... That line... I'd be praying to all the gods up above to save me 😂😂😂😂

    • @B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont
      @B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont 23 дні тому +5

      Well, it wouldn't be as bad as hearing Christopher Moltisante say, "Have a seat."

    • @leonardoo.7005
      @leonardoo.7005 20 днів тому

      Uh that’s just a very common British thing to say to a guest

  • @kartikkantheti5690
    @kartikkantheti5690 15 днів тому +23

    Years later her own son had the same ego about his wife upstaging him.

  • @LaDiaF
    @LaDiaF 25 днів тому +363

    Claire does a good job with the queens accent

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 25 днів тому +2

      Yes, it's good. I haven't seen the series, but from the clips I've seen, she seems quite hard. Do they show her in any softer moments?

    • @Youtubereplies
      @Youtubereplies 25 днів тому +3

      @@jamesmcinnis208 very much so

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@jamesmcinnis208 Yes, though few in through for she is after all the crown and represents the long lineage of the overseers who govern and rule the countries of the UK.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 24 дні тому +1

      @@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Sorry, I don't know what "few in through" means.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 24 дні тому +1

      Quite......

  • @teacup.demitasse
    @teacup.demitasse 24 дні тому +114

    Whether it happened or not or it's just a storyline, when a person offers a sincere heartfelt fulsome apology it reflects well on the person and helps nurture forgiveness.

    • @jdrancho1864
      @jdrancho1864 21 день тому +3

      fulsome: complimentary or flattering to an excessive degree.
      I don't think it means what you think it means.

    • @teacup.demitasse
      @teacup.demitasse 21 день тому +3

      @@jdrancho1864 I don't think you grasp the point another person is making like you seem to think you do. Better to mind your own business rather than try to police other people's commentary like some self-important scold.

    • @ZekeRaiden
      @ZekeRaiden 17 днів тому

      @@jdrancho1864 Originally (ca. 13th c.), "fulsome" just meant all-encompassing, comprehensive, entire. A few centuries later, it had gained the connotation of being excessive, and that connotation gradually superseded the original meaning. But the original meaning never died, and as the word faded from common use, both senses--"comprehensive" _and_ "sycophantic"--have survived into the modern day. It really isn't accurate to say that either one is more correct. Both have weight and value now, and context clues us in on whether the meaning is positive or negative.
      Purely from your response, you understood the context clues. Perhaps, instead of passing etymological judgment, it would be more productive to listen; perhaps, instead of dismissal of another, it would be more productive to question oneself and one's certainty.
      Or not. We're talking heads on the internet, after all. Still, kindness and a smile seem rather more important of late. It feels like we have far to little of either.

    • @anncain2432
      @anncain2432 8 днів тому

      Forgiveness is a gift we give ourselves.

    • @jdrancho1864
      @jdrancho1864 7 днів тому

      @@teacup.demitasse and let an inaccurate, misguided comment stand??
      Never!

  • @scottvernon7347
    @scottvernon7347 24 дні тому +89

    I'm not sure if that is a true story or not, but, how Gracious of The Queen AND Mrs. Kennedy to have a frank conversation with dignity. Really, you would not expect anything else from them. Nice episode.

    • @melissasaint3283
      @melissasaint3283 24 дні тому

      Its true that Jackie spoke out of turn, surprised that Elizabeth's wardrobe and hair styling were not more en vogue,
      Considering she was the Queen of England.
      And all the garbage that comes after appears made up out of whole cloth.
      Jack was Jackie's charm and culture as a real political asset. He fully expected and hoped h would be especially popular in Paris for good reasons. And all reports are that he was very pleased about the outpouring of enthusiasm for her.
      There's so much that's just made up here..
      Even the timeline is impossible and years off.

    • @sherry2818
      @sherry2818 24 дні тому

      @@scottvernon7347 one day I hope to sit down and see this saga! I haven’t seen a thing but clips ! And they are fantastic!😝😝😝

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 19 днів тому

      @@melissasaint3283 he was NOT thrilled. He resented her for it.

    • @melissasaint3283
      @melissasaint3283 19 днів тому +3

      @@thehair1474 Just because a TV show told you that doesn't mean it was true, particularly if no good historical evidence supports that theory.
      Charles resented Diana and become brutally emotionally abusive over it, though. We do have tons of historical evidence for that.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 19 днів тому

      @@melissasaint3283 didn't get it from a TV show, lol. Virtually all of Washington knew JFK resented his wife and mentally, verbally, and especially physically abused Jackie.

  • @irvinetustin
    @irvinetustin 20 днів тому +76

    Imagine having a guest visit you at your house. You ask them to sit down, and two men in red coats pull out the two chairs for you and your guest. You say, "Shall we have tea?" and two altogether different men in red coats pour the tea for you and your guest. And all you have to say to make all four men in red coats and an additional man in a black coat leave the room is to look at one of them and say "Thank you." Truly a minor display of the naked power of the Queen of England.

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 20 днів тому +13

      I saw Prince Charles meet a group of hikers on a trial and it ended in a similar way. He was wonderfully cordial but in the end he said something like "thank you" and they *all got the hint* and bid him good day and resumed walking. It was so classy on both sides.

    • @fuzzylon
      @fuzzylon 12 днів тому +7

      It's not really power - it's protocol.
      I work in data communications - this is just having the servants and having a recognised set of signals to ask them to do certain things.

  • @seirrabrinson
    @seirrabrinson 25 днів тому +572

    chileee😲... the way the Queen was spreading that butter and jam on that scone as if she was saying... "how dare you talk about me beetch"... like did y'all see how the Queen bit that scone as if she wanted to slap mrs. Kennedy.😂 I wonder if their lil chat was forreal🤔😂

    • @steveboudreaux7933
      @steveboudreaux7933 25 днів тому +9

      What exactly did Jackie do to piss off Queen Elizabeth II ?

    • @richardw3470
      @richardw3470 25 днів тому +68

      @@steveboudreaux7933 I heard about this. As I recall it may have been when she criticized her clothes, her intellect and Buckingham Palace. Someone who watched this program should be more precisely accurate. Anyway, for a person of importance, as a First Lady is, she should not have spoken at a dinner/party as she did - whether true or not, or only her opinion.

    • @elysianfields8461
      @elysianfields8461 25 днів тому +51

      ​@@steveboudreaux7933 After a formal event, Jackie gossiped about the Queen's dress and hairstyle, stating they were dowdy and old fashioned.

    • @RMFeminine4TheWin
      @RMFeminine4TheWin 25 днів тому +21

      *that's another one of The Queen's classy (non-verbal) reads i'll have to put in my repertoire. Lol!!!* 🥐🫖🍯

    • @RMFeminine4TheWin
      @RMFeminine4TheWin 25 днів тому

      @@steveboudreaux7933 *it's on this channel...look for 'Jackie Kennedy Doesn't Like Queen Elizabeth | The Crown'* 👑

  • @julieclayton-west624
    @julieclayton-west624 24 дні тому +89

    Claire Foy’s performance is flawless. QEII ❤️

    • @davidh9844
      @davidh9844 23 дні тому +1

      She was the hands down best of the three. I kept going back to the series to watch her rather than how the story line would play out.

    • @user-yc2oz8kc5k
      @user-yc2oz8kc5k 9 днів тому

      E2R

  • @xtremelovin
    @xtremelovin 24 дні тому +49

    Her literal words and her body language tell very different stories. Brilliant!

  • @vickenator
    @vickenator 25 днів тому +146

    I liked the angry scone dressing. Unrealistic, as she wouldn't have tipped her hand like that, but very funny to witness.

    • @zacmumblethunder7466
      @zacmumblethunder7466 17 днів тому +8

      She wouldn't have had the scone before the sandwiches either.

    • @nassauguy48
      @nassauguy48 11 днів тому +1

      Man, she liked a lot of butter!

    • @zacmumblethunder7466
      @zacmumblethunder7466 11 днів тому +2

      @nassauguy48 It's clotted cream. And good to see that she put the cream on first. Her son may have bern Duke of Cornwall, but that's no reason for Her Majesty to follow that county's peculiar habits.

    • @noseofsauron236
      @noseofsauron236 7 днів тому

      @@zacmumblethunder7466 Think I read somewhere that the Queen did prefer the Cornwall method in real life, but the Devon method is depicted here either because it was Claire Foy's natural preference or that's how they rehearsed this scene.

    • @zacmumblethunder7466
      @zacmumblethunder7466 7 днів тому

      @@noseofsauron236 Oh dear.

  • @acintoli
    @acintoli 20 днів тому +21

    I think Claire Foy was the best actress portraying the late Queen Elizabeth II in The Crown. She was able to reproduce that formidable glance the Queen gave to people when she was younger.

  • @grdn02100
    @grdn02100 25 днів тому +82

    One thing that I don't think was mentioned was that when they were arranging the state dinner in honor of the Kennedys they asked is there anyone you'd like us to invite. Jackie said yes, my sister Lee is living in London but Buckingham Palace wouldn't b/c Lee was a divorcee. Sounds dumb but it was 1961 or 62.
    I worked for a British company in.....2002 and the company news letter would list retirements, births etc well someone in accounts I new had just had a baby and I asked one of our auditors how come that employee's child's birth wasn't mentioned? He said oh not married.

    • @justinakavanagh3058
      @justinakavanagh3058 24 дні тому +11

      WOW! Even then.

    • @ABC_DEF
      @ABC_DEF 24 дні тому +13

      In about 1960 my mother left her husband and filed for divorce. She had nowhere to go, but her mother (my grandmother) would not allow her to come home to Scotland because the scandal would have been too great. She was not allowed to come home until she had remarried (she married my father). Divorcees were of course not received at court but I am surprised by your story from 2002.

    • @Peach-y8b
      @Peach-y8b 23 дні тому +8

      They spread that culture and those beliefs all across the anglophonic world.

    • @YeshuaKingMessiah
      @YeshuaKingMessiah 23 дні тому

      Disgrace for the baby worst of all
      Two idiot parents

    • @user-mc5ch1rs4d
      @user-mc5ch1rs4d 21 день тому +9

      The current king had no qualms about sleeping with married women. He had long time affairs with them

  • @vikingsong2068
    @vikingsong2068 18 днів тому +13

    I didn't know Dexter Morgan was JFK in a previous life.

  • @I.AM.JUPITER
    @I.AM.JUPITER 6 днів тому +3

    What a perfect delivery on the buttering of the scone and her delivery line - perfectly done

  • @user-ey7hs1gn1j
    @user-ey7hs1gn1j 13 днів тому +8

    Clare Foy the best Queen by a country mile.

  • @medusagorgon8432
    @medusagorgon8432 20 днів тому +12

    Claire was always my favorite 'stage' of Elizabeth. And whether or not this conversation happened in just this way, I imagine she nailed the mannerisms of the real Elizabeth II perfectly in such a situation.

  • @thegreenbaron6439
    @thegreenbaron6439 15 днів тому +4

    Speaking calmly with a smile while aggressively preparing her tea and snacks. As if she is saying “Allow me now to butter your bread, Mrs. Kennedy”😊
    And this is after a show of force with the army out on full display.😅

  • @Mxyzptlksac
    @Mxyzptlksac 24 дні тому +48

    That poor scone! It took beating

    • @raymonds6227
      @raymonds6227 12 днів тому

      The scone’s name was Mrs. Kennedy.

  • @YeshuaKingMessiah
    @YeshuaKingMessiah 23 дні тому +55

    “I was high! In fact I’m often high!”
    That’s the excuse?
    Lol

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 19 днів тому

      Very true though. JFK was shot up with meth from Dr. Feelgood, too. He was higher than a kite.

    • @cherylschantz9893
      @cherylschantz9893 12 днів тому +4

      She wasn’t excusing her behavior. She was explaining. Big difference.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 12 днів тому

      @@cherylschantz9893 Jackie had to do a lot of "explaining" to a boat load of people.

  • @boscdny
    @boscdny 13 днів тому +3

    I like the reaction of the actress playing the Queen when she realizes that Jackie is just a person too who can hurt inside ...

  • @marshallguy301
    @marshallguy301 24 дні тому +23

    There is NO WAY this conversation actually occurred. I guffawed throughout the whole thing.

    • @sheilacarey347
      @sheilacarey347 19 днів тому +3

      it's astonishing so many here think this actually happened...it's a drama , allegedly " entertainment ".....

    • @anireseegam6128
      @anireseegam6128 13 днів тому +4

      Absolutely agree. Should be illegal to make this rubbish. I've read everything there is to read about Jackie for the last 50 years. Every book and this is fantasy

    • @vovcha01
      @vovcha01 13 днів тому +1

      @@anireseegam6128Brilliant. Let’s outlaw fictionalised drama. 👏

  • @mariegallagher4725
    @mariegallagher4725 3 дні тому +4

    Our late Queen balanced so much in her life, from a young age. Our late Queen was the original trailblazer for women coming into their own. A true woman of substance, duty, self-sacrifice and decency and incredible love for her people. Great Respect to an amazing woman who led the British Royals into the new age.

  • @Aramanth
    @Aramanth 25 днів тому +71

    "Sometimes you need a fortress."
    Love how Elizabeth applies herself to her scone!
    Great scene! 👑

  • @tomwebber9377
    @tomwebber9377 25 днів тому +41

    I really need to sit down and make a point of watching this show from start to finish.

    • @ladyem8927
      @ladyem8927 24 дні тому +1

      Me too!! So many UA-cam scenes watched, practically the whole series....but never have I sat down and watched an entire episode!

    • @katysteele6069
      @katysteele6069 20 днів тому +4

      you must, its so well done !

    • @waynemay7327
      @waynemay7327 16 днів тому +1

      Watch it, you'll enjoy it.

    • @tonyktown
      @tonyktown 15 днів тому +2

      Absolutely worth the watch, it was incredibly done. Just take the history with a grain of salt, as there was a lot of artisitc liberty taken.

    • @tomwebber9377
      @tomwebber9377 14 днів тому

      @@tonyktown thanks Tony. Yeah, from what I've seen in bits and pieces, the factual data is pretty limited. Having lived from 1964 - present and a history/poli sci major (spelled: addict), it's why I want to watch it start to finish. :-)

  •  23 дні тому +4

    ⚜Jackelyn Kennedy would never arrive ANYWHERE, and much less, the Queen's palace, with a coiffure like THAT!

  • @sp-bl1sl
    @sp-bl1sl 19 днів тому +4

    I don't think the Queen would have sliced a scone in half. You BREAK a scone in half.

    • @pompe221
      @pompe221 20 годин тому

      Cutting it allowed her to wield a knife in Jackie's presence and not just to spread jam or cream.

  • @TheGreatWerebear-ge7uh
    @TheGreatWerebear-ge7uh 22 дні тому +13

    I find this scene super interesting. This episode portrays Jackie as deliberately charming everyone around her in the way she thinks will be most effective. With the queen, she sees someone who's insecure in glamorous Jackie's shadow. So she talks about how shy she feels, how insecure, how out of place. The queen thinks they've bonded, but in fact Jackie's actually judging her the entire time--and those judgments come out later. Maybe she was under the influence when they did come out, but she had to have thought them up on some level or other in order to have given them voice. In this scene, when she goes to apologize, she does it as vulnerable, out-of-place, looking up to the queen as everything she 'wishes she were.' Elizabeth totally fell for it, acting guilty later on that she didn't respond by baring her own insecurities and her own admiration for Jackie. In reality, if Elizabeth had groveled the way she later said she should have, Jackie's track record goes to show that she'd take that as an ego boost and continue looking down on the queen. Jackie's vulnerability in this episode is a means to an end of manipulating/charming the queen, and it works.
    Edit to add: I just finished rewatching this episode, and it's apparent that the queen recognizes Jackie's manipulations when she sees that Jackie hasn't changed out of her bloody clothes. She realizes how good Jackie is at playing the game. And she decides to play it, too, by honoring JFK above and beyond what custom demands. You can see that she's fuming the entire time that she's making those choices.

    • @reason4fairness
      @reason4fairness 18 днів тому +5

      Thank you! This is how I interpreted her apology. She may be under the influence but the "cocktail" made her thoughts about the queen ve apparent.

    • @ellamaeloftus3493
      @ellamaeloftus3493 5 днів тому

      Yet Jackie decorated the white house in European style and was her preferred escape from the US. Let us not forget Jackie was a human being governed for some time under the Kennedys empire. Her husband is heavily under the influence of steroids and opiates

  • @XanathosZero
    @XanathosZero 25 днів тому +51

    It is the third time I watch this scene, but for the first time I am kind of interested in Jackie Kennedy's state of mind. She seems like an interesting personality. 🤔

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 25 днів тому +13

      She was an interesting
      personality and very
      intelligent. She absolutely
      hated the invasion of her
      privacy; during the post-
      White House Years.
      She was also very fearful
      after the JFK, RFK and the
      Martin Luther King
      assassinations. Ithink the
      need for her and the children
      to have physical and financial
      security drove her to marry
      Aristotle Onassis. He married
      Jackie for her fame and social
      connections to rich Americans
      JFK did not leave her hardly
      any money. Her father was
      broke/dead(?) Her step-father
      told both Jackie and Lee as well
      as their step-brother, Gore Vidal,
      that they were not being left
      money.
      Joe Sr. and Rose Kennedy left
      all of their money equally to
      all of their grandchildren as
      well as some money to a few
      charities. While their children
      were alive; they were generous
      to them; but favored the sons

    • @paulashe61
      @paulashe61 25 днів тому +10

      This is a tv programme not real.

    • @sheilacarey347
      @sheilacarey347 25 днів тому +8

      your absolute correct- well said. Few understand that. Jackie never had to worry over a car payment but worried her children could be kidnapped or worse was an issue. I'd have married King Kong to save life of my children . Most thought she married him out of greed for $ - it was a safety issue & until his son died/ it worked.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 24 дні тому

      *you're or you are ​@@sheilacarey347

    • @XanathosZero
      @XanathosZero 23 дні тому

      @@Peach-y8b The scene, yes. But these glances at how is she as a person match things I read about her before. That she seemed like a very outspoken person when in reality she was not a people person, with many conflicting thougts because of aspects in her personal life. I personally never felt interest on learning about Jackie, i mean, she was first lady of another country. But now I am interested.

  • @a-complished4406
    @a-complished4406 24 дні тому +10

    Claire Foye is phenomenal ❤

  • @hoibsh21
    @hoibsh21 25 днів тому +52

    Jodi Balfour would be great playing Karen Carpenter !

    • @latinguy67
      @latinguy67 25 днів тому

      WOW! Great observation!

    • @zackzeman6449
      @zackzeman6449 25 днів тому

      and Gilda Radner

    • @hoibsh21
      @hoibsh21 25 днів тому +4

      @@adamgarrick3778 Yes, I think we all deserve a better Carpenters movie.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 24 дні тому

      ​@@zackzeman6449No.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 24 дні тому

      But can she sing? 🤔

  • @marleneyanchus4644
    @marleneyanchus4644 25 днів тому +35

    I don't believe that ever happened, Jackie never came across as a one to apologize

  • @Silver_Owl
    @Silver_Owl 24 дні тому +13

    The Queen ate scones the Cornish way according to her butler - jam first, and then cream on top. Shocking research mistake by The Crown!

    • @colinr1960
      @colinr1960 24 дні тому +2

      Thank heavens! Firm jam first, soft, fluffy cream on top…like any SENSIBLE person. 😀👍
      Even us uncouth Aussies know that!
      I was worried when I saw that, but it IS only tv, after all.

    • @Silver_Owl
      @Silver_Owl 24 дні тому +2

      @@colinr1960 Fear not, my worthy Australian friend, the Real Queen knew the correct way! 😃

    • @MaleOrderBride
      @MaleOrderBride 24 дні тому +1

      Right?! I hope someone got fired for that blunder....

    • @Silver_Owl
      @Silver_Owl 24 дні тому +1

      @@MaleOrderBride Not only fired, but taken to the Tower of London!

  • @Scotland1766
    @Scotland1766 6 днів тому +2

    My Queen was a stable individual over 70 years. That constant, while presidents, prime ministers, dictatorships and republics came and went. We always had the queen to rely on.

  • @theconfusedphilosopher4724
    @theconfusedphilosopher4724 24 дні тому +43

    Back when people handled conflict with class

    • @brooke_reiverrose2949
      @brooke_reiverrose2949 4 дні тому

      Back in the day they wouldn’t have talked at all. You get this is fiction, right? This is TODAY’S ideal, not yesterday’s reality.

  • @Phatbody
    @Phatbody 25 днів тому +21

    Sometimes scenes come together really well. Here's a good example.

  • @melanophore
    @melanophore 24 дні тому +5

    Claire is great but Jodi is seriously underrated. I watched this when it aired, didn’t know who she was at the time. She’s great in this role.

    • @fc4660
      @fc4660 17 днів тому +1

      Nor me. Her accent seems much less pronounced than the way Natalie Portman portrayed her.

  • @royw-g3120
    @royw-g3120 18 днів тому +10

    Not a monarchist but QE2 was a legend we did not deserve.

  • @ginghamt.c.5973
    @ginghamt.c.5973 23 дні тому +14

    Thank God Her Majesty placed the cream on the scone first - before the Jam! AND didn’t double dip! Classy.

    • @SisterUnity
      @SisterUnity 20 днів тому +1

      YES! YOU NOTICED!!!!!! hahahaha!

  • @fabmissb
    @fabmissb 23 дні тому +12

    It takes a lot to humble yourself so totally before someone you’ve wronged.

  • @pilotgal6191
    @pilotgal6191 23 дні тому +12

    I think this is ths exact same spot where HMTQ did the skit with Paddington Bear. 😢😢😢 RIP, QE II. You are sorely missed!!

    • @timhazeltine3256
      @timhazeltine3256 21 день тому +1

      Actually it isn't. None of the Crown's scenes were filmed in Buckingham Palace.

    • @pilotgal6191
      @pilotgal6191 21 день тому +1

      @@timhazeltine3256 Well, of course not. I meant the reproduced spot. Take a look at this recreated location and compare with the Pennington Bear video. They're very similar.

    • @nzessmam
      @nzessmam 20 днів тому

      Paddington bear - get it right !

    • @Kate-lk6tw
      @Kate-lk6tw 20 днів тому

      @@timhazeltine3256That is not what was said. The point still stands. You are unnecessarily nasty to someone making an innocent and sweet reference. Why?

    • @Kate-lk6tw
      @Kate-lk6tw 20 днів тому

      @@nzessmamwhat? Bear is a proper noun in that name. Capital letter.

  • @fuzzylon
    @fuzzylon 12 днів тому +2

    I must make the time to get back to watching The Crown.

  • @melissasaint3283
    @melissasaint3283 24 дні тому +9

    JFK had problems with infidelity but the idea that he was verbally or physically abusive to Jackie appears to have no Asia in anything. Indeed, he was an astute politician and proud of his wife's culture, charm and accomplishments...all the evidence I've been seen is that he was pleased she was such a hit in Paris -- it was specifically hoped for, as she grew up bilingual, and at tended the Sorbonne and spent time living in Paris before she married....he named her childhood dog after Charles de Gaulle!
    Its strange that the writers would make this up ou of whole cloth. It almost seems calculated to eacho Charles' intense jealousy of Diana's popularity when they began to travel, and his all too real emotional and verbal abuse...as to downplay it by comparison.
    But since these are real human beings, it seems unfair to falsely depict them in such a brutal light merely to form them into a foil fo the King of England.
    (The timeline is way off as well....they visited. Ot weeks or months but literally years before Kennedy's assassination)

    • @bbybella9937
      @bbybella9937 24 дні тому +8

      It's as if they deliberately dumbed down one of the most sophisticated First Couples in American history to make their own Royal couple look superior.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 24 дні тому +2

      Asia?

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 19 днів тому

      It was well known in political circles that JFK was verbally AND physically abusive to Jackie.

  • @davidstein1376
    @davidstein1376 17 днів тому +3

    Christ! didn't this woman ever pay the light bill???!!!

    • @JoanMorrison-vq2jc
      @JoanMorrison-vq2jc 10 днів тому +2

      Why are all these scenes so dark? Even the morning scenes are in need of some light!

    • @davidstein1376
      @davidstein1376 9 днів тому

      @@JoanMorrison-vq2jc "Artsy" director.

  • @irisjanemay1903
    @irisjanemay1903 25 днів тому +33

    After Jack Kennedy died, Philip went to the funeral without the Queen. He played with John John and helped Jackie out a little bit. A year and a half later, the Queen donated an acre at Runningmead for a Kennedy memorial. There is a picture of the event. The Queen is on the right by herself looking angry. The two Kennedy brothers are in the middle looking left, looking angry, then there is Jackie holding John John's hand and on the other side is Philip holding John John's other hand. Jackie and Philip are laughing and smiling at each other. The three of them look just adorable together. ❤

    • @stanbrown1151
      @stanbrown1151 25 днів тому +23

      It was a solemn occasion therefore they aren't going to have giddy expressions. Also there is a protocol on how they stand at the ceremony. People see so much in a photo without knowing the hearts and minds of the people shown in them.

    • @Richard-yd1ws
      @Richard-yd1ws 25 днів тому +3

      Cool story bro

    • @michaelhayden725
      @michaelhayden725 24 дні тому +18

      I have seen, on a number of occasions the “official “ film of the Runningmead Dedication and at no time does the Queen appear angry or otherwise upset. She was personally very sad at Jack’s assassination and as I understand it was the driving force behind the dedication. Afterwards the Queen and Prince Philip entertained the Kennedy Family, Jackie, Bobby, Ted and I think Eunice or one the other sisters. The Kennedy’s were apparently deeply touched by the Queen’s hospitality and always remembered her with affection.

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 13 днів тому +1

    One can tell how Jacqueline's explanation succeeded in placating the Queen. The latter was very snippy at first, to the point of rapidly decorating and eating her biscuit and drinking her tea. But she then slowed down and looked upon the First Lady with a sense of understanding and even pity.

  • @makeitmakesense2616
    @makeitmakesense2616 13 днів тому +1

    I love how Jackie is Tan in this scence, to express the style and youthfulness of Camelot

  • @siankinrade1994
    @siankinrade1994 24 дні тому +10

    Love that the Queen chose the Devonshire cream tea!

    • @aussiekat6379
      @aussiekat6379 13 днів тому

      What do mean by chose. It was always served the Queen love her scones and tea..😂😂

    • @siankinrade1994
      @siankinrade1994 13 днів тому

      ​@@aussiekat6379There are two ways to put the cream on a scone. Cornish is jam first, cream second. Devonshire is the other way around. I'm from Devon, so that's what I noticed.

    • @aussiekat6379
      @aussiekat6379 13 днів тому

      @@siankinrade1994 nope in Australia it’s jam first then cream well it’s been that way as far as I can remember it’s how my great grandparents etc alway served it.. I guess it’s up to the individual how they like it.

  • @vivelaresistance3239
    @vivelaresistance3239 24 дні тому +2

    This scene reminds me of the first time I went to the ballet and was surprised when the ethereal dancers landed with pretty loud thuds. The staff here might be silent, but they’re far from noiseless.

  • @vickenator
    @vickenator 25 днів тому +15

    If Jackie had indeed been drunk when she said those things, I'm sure that factoid would have gotten back to Elizabeth as well. Doesn't excuse the behavior or the comments, but does explain them in a more understandable way.

    • @lindsaymorrison7519
      @lindsaymorrison7519 24 дні тому +9

      The scene suggests she wasn't just drunk, and obviously the queen of the United Kingdom is pretty familiar with drunk people, but that she was actually probably high.

    • @michellekinder3051
      @michellekinder3051 24 дні тому +2

      News was different then. Jackie was their princess and they would tell anything to make her look good. She was horrible to the queen, sly put downs, when they first met. So why would the queen sink to her level?

    • @iamcase1245
      @iamcase1245 24 дні тому +3

      World leaders and foreign royals have been calling Buckingham Palace a disgusting pig sty for hundreds of years. Even today there are tourists claiming it smells like piss and I've worked with contractors that say most of the property is in horrid shape, smells like ass and looks like it hasn't been well kept in ages. Why is it so offensive for Jackie to say it when the Queen wasn't even in the room?

    • @pnwflipper2089
      @pnwflipper2089 24 дні тому +5

      Not drunk- they were on amphetamines.

    • @vickenator
      @vickenator 24 дні тому +3

      @@pnwflipper2089 She was also drinking alcohol in the clip.

  • @sebastiankinnunen5549
    @sebastiankinnunen5549 24 дні тому +4

    ❤FANTASTIC Claire Foy❤love from Finland

  • @sanfordpress8943
    @sanfordpress8943 23 дні тому +2

    Jackie might have said that in private ,but she had more class than to be public about it

  • @SN-sz7kw
    @SN-sz7kw 13 днів тому +1

    The scene actually begins with troops marching/riding (?) by & Jackie being led up the grand staircase past posted guards. All in full traditional regalia. 😂

  • @bettyrasmussen9053
    @bettyrasmussen9053 24 дні тому +2

    IT TAKES - GREAT - COURAGE !” To ADMIT - WHEN YOU ARE - WRONG 😱 ….!” GOOD !! FOR JACKIE !” 😇

  • @here_we_go_again2571
    @here_we_go_again2571 25 днів тому +17

    Luv this scene --
    Whether the apology was written or in person; Jackie, i am sure would be strong enough and a decent enough human being to
    apologize for saying something inappropriate and/or hurting another person's feelings or reputation. Jackie was a true lady!

  • @JohnKing-do2yc
    @JohnKing-do2yc 23 дні тому +9

    ...and the award for "Something That Never Happened" goes to...

    • @Kate-lk6tw
      @Kate-lk6tw 20 днів тому +1

      English ppl who never read or research.

  • @ursaltydog
    @ursaltydog 21 день тому +4

    The Queen received her apology so very well.. she understood where Mrs. Kennedy was coming from...

  • @evelyntarawa7140
    @evelyntarawa7140 6 днів тому

    This the funniest scene ever 🤣
    The way the Queen is buttery her scone butter then da jam 😂

  • @logiclanguagelearningFrench
    @logiclanguagelearningFrench 25 днів тому +9

    I heard the Queen did jam then cream not vice versa.

    • @Silver_Owl
      @Silver_Owl 24 дні тому +1

      You are correct, she did do jam then cream.

  • @MarklovesAngels
    @MarklovesAngels 23 дні тому +6

    I had to bail after two seasons. It was based on real people but not real events and always trying to discern/decide which events/meetings really happened left an emotional detachment to caring about the characters. Which is also a long way of saying that when Claire Foy left, I was done.

    • @Kate-lk6tw
      @Kate-lk6tw 20 днів тому

      Yes, it was based on real events. This private meeting at Windsor is recorded, as you’d know if you bothered to read anything. What other events are fiction? I’ll wait.

  • @craigrosborough7939
    @craigrosborough7939 2 дні тому

    from memory - I dont think ive ever witnessed a more accurate depiction of Jackie - looks - diction - all

  • @mimibaird4099
    @mimibaird4099 24 дні тому +1

    Claire is so superb l feltvit was the queen herself realy. very proud of the Queen . wonderful scene.

  • @jiyoungpark6233
    @jiyoungpark6233 23 дні тому +1

    oh thank you so much.
    we always having hard times in lives. i think i more forgive than i did before.

  • @taymur0804
    @taymur0804 25 днів тому +5

    I couldn't take Elisabeth seriously when she filling her scone😂😂

  • @MusicloverLiz
    @MusicloverLiz 25 днів тому +18

    I wonder if this meeting really took place.

    • @benu_bird
      @benu_bird 25 днів тому +18

      That the wife of a president would use the Queen as a therapist? I seriously doubt it.

    • @user-yo3vt7ft1p
      @user-yo3vt7ft1p 25 днів тому +2

      Agreed, but still fun to watch.

    • @branflakes12341
      @branflakes12341 25 днів тому +5

      She really did insult the queen horribly

    • @benu_bird
      @benu_bird 25 днів тому +6

      @@branflakes12341On the show. There’s no proof of it in real life.

    • @beccamcdonald9846
      @beccamcdonald9846 25 днів тому +4

      There were reports of Mrs. Kennedy visiting the Palace before the scheduled visit, but no one knows what was discussed

  • @user-rc5px1hu9j
    @user-rc5px1hu9j 4 дні тому

    Great dialogue between two extraordinary lady!What a good performance🎉🎉🎉

  • @kcalanes3080
    @kcalanes3080 24 дні тому +2

    this scene makes me want to eat too 😂

  • @kengruz669
    @kengruz669 16 днів тому +1

    I wish to highlight the excellent work of the stunt-scone in this scene which took more abuse than any standard scone would have been allowed to endure.

  • @skontheroad
    @skontheroad 19 днів тому +1

    Masterful scene! Absolutely perfect from all sides!

  • @davidhoward5392
    @davidhoward5392 24 дні тому +12

    Queen upsetting Cornwall by having a Devonshire cream tea. Its Jam first then clotted cream, not the other way

    • @Silver_Owl
      @Silver_Owl 24 дні тому +2

      The actual Queen put the jam on first.

    • @deegeraghty9426
      @deegeraghty9426 21 день тому

      Depends on how thick the cream is! If clotted cream, it goes on first , like butter, then jam. If cream is whipped/fluffy, jam goes on first, cream o top. Common sense ! ❤

    • @Silver_Owl
      @Silver_Owl 20 днів тому

      @@deegeraghty9426 Jam first. Cornish clotted cream second. That's how Her Majesty ate it.

  • @jayneterry8701
    @jayneterry8701 23 дні тому +1

    Wow that was intense and revealing re Mrs Kennedy!

  • @rr7firefly
    @rr7firefly 24 дні тому +1

    I am so glad that I found this. The human dimension of all great people is something too often overlooked. We assume that people we admire are somehow immune from human problems. And of course they are not.
    What a surprise to see Michael C. Hall in this video... portraying JFK!

  • @SM2005_
    @SM2005_ 3 дні тому

    I need to re-watch this series. It’s been a few years.

  • @miceymolander
    @miceymolander 20 днів тому +12

    Queen Elizabeth did not just cope with her job, she was in charge--she was the queen.

    • @JoanMorrison-vq2jc
      @JoanMorrison-vq2jc 10 днів тому +2

      She was very limited. Parliament was and still is thee POWER.

  • @maricogan2903
    @maricogan2903 3 дні тому

    I have never watched “The Crown”, but the actress playing Jackie’s character just doesn’t look finished.

  • @JohnAsmith-rw6uo
    @JohnAsmith-rw6uo 3 дні тому

    Both were class acts.

  • @jillballantyne1870
    @jillballantyne1870 24 дні тому +2

    In a palace would a floor sound like particle board?

  • @RoseQueen215
    @RoseQueen215 24 дні тому +2

    This scene may not have happened in real life but I guess it goes to show that every couple has issues, no matter how perfect the situation looked on the outside.

    • @lacouerfairy
      @lacouerfairy 22 дні тому

      Well yes, we also know JFK cheated on Jackie constantly.

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 13 днів тому +5

    Could anyone imagine today's American leaders and their spouses from BOTH parties acting with such class and diplomacy?

    • @kimberlywhitehead22
      @kimberlywhitehead22 13 днів тому +3

      QE2 had nothing but good things to say about Michelle obama

    • @micheleMAGGIO-m8j
      @micheleMAGGIO-m8j 8 днів тому

      Michelle Obama showed up to meet the Queen wearing a cardigan and gave the Elizabeth II a hug. I have a VERY high regard for Mrs. Obama but didn't she get the memo? And of course the Queen said nice things about Mrs. Obama...her late Majesty knew her role and played it perfectly. Probably the only person who knew what the Queen really thought was Prince Philip...but to my original point, who doesn't like Mrs. Obama; she is an irresistible person.

    • @brooke_reiverrose2949
      @brooke_reiverrose2949 4 дні тому

      I don’t think either woman would call this portrayal “class” at the time. The Queen clearly shows her anger. Jackie gets waaaay too personal, and the fact that she brings up the uncomfortable incident at all would be seen as tacky.

  • @TheFiown
    @TheFiown 24 дні тому +1

    You never cut a scone, you break it.

  • @williamhoffman7009
    @williamhoffman7009 22 дні тому +1

    Fiction is always more titillating than reality!!

  • @catherinetimmerman9107
    @catherinetimmerman9107 24 дні тому +2

    I hardly doubt Jacqueline Kennedy curtsied and bowed….

  • @rogerallen6644
    @rogerallen6644 7 днів тому

    President Dexter is no one to mess with!

  • @patriciaotuma3531
    @patriciaotuma3531 23 дні тому +2

    I am sure this is pure fantasy.However very good acting.

  • @hughmcaloon6506
    @hughmcaloon6506 18 днів тому +2

    Scene's strong, and I especially like the part at the end where Jackie's lauding Elizabeth's handling of Ghana, and Claire Foy's radiating "It's the job dear. Good God, can't you see that/do it?"

  • @angelacharin636
    @angelacharin636 18 днів тому +1

    I can't imagine Jackie telling the Queen that the man with the hand on the nuclear button is stoned most of the time. The Queen is the British head of state and she certainly would have passed that info on to British intelligence. Jackie couldn't have been that naive or dumb.

  • @edwardnashen5960
    @edwardnashen5960 25 днів тому +3

    Very interesting window into Jackie's and John's relationship and what they did to cope the high stress.

    • @dbyers3897
      @dbyers3897 25 днів тому +4

      Not coping, crutching. And quite dangerous crutches.

  • @Paul2377
    @Paul2377 23 дні тому +1

    The cream goes on top of the jam, Lizzie!

  • @beccamcdonald9846
    @beccamcdonald9846 25 днів тому +3

    I honestly wonder if this is how their marriage really was

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 24 дні тому +1

      If so, it's worse than I thought. 😥

  • @jdrancho1864
    @jdrancho1864 21 день тому +1

    We fought a revolution so we wouldn''t have to deal with this bunch. What's the fascination.??