When James Toney Displayed Zero Respect Against Holyfield

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2023
  • Welcome back to Boxing After Dark. In today's video we look back at the hyped showdown between Evander Holyfield and a James Toney that's having his first bout at heavyweight
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  • @yeagemk
    @yeagemk 9 місяців тому +148

    I used to think boxing was boring. Then in the beginning of this year I put on boxing gloves for the first time and began training multiple days per week. It has given me a new appreciation for the elite level of these monsters. The power, accuracy, speed and snap of those strikes. That footwork and head movement. You don't realize how much goes into it until you start training it yourself. Now I cant stop watching these guys.

    • @gutter339
      @gutter339 9 місяців тому +20

      Good for you bro. I started real young myself and if my body wasn't so fked up in my 30s, I would still be at the gym. One of my biggest regrets was that I didn't take boxing seriously enough in my teens lol. Idc what anyone says, boxing is the best form of exercise and def the most useful

    • @mynamemeanspeace
      @mynamemeanspeace 9 місяців тому +3

      and @theadmiral111 agree and agree. the best fitness moments I had were with 2.5 lb weights shadow boxing and wondering how much I sucked lol

    • @Drpepperspray1010
      @Drpepperspray1010 9 місяців тому +8

      Any man can throw a punch, but being able to move and punch is what boxing’s all about. I remember my first sparring session I got my ass kicked twice cuz I had terrible footwork. It’s always the footwork of these pros that impress me the most

    • @T1Oracle
      @T1Oracle 9 місяців тому

      Don't get CTE. You only have one brain and it doesn't get younger.

    • @christianf7740
      @christianf7740 8 місяців тому +3

      And the fact that it is a huge sport with boxing clubs in every shit hole across the world. The competition is gigantic and only the most talented small fraction gets to be a Toney or Holyfield. These guys are not for real when it comes to skill and athletic abillity.

  • @rukedoufus3260
    @rukedoufus3260 10 місяців тому +116

    James Toney is the definition of too tough for your own good

    • @BarryShite25
      @BarryShite25 9 місяців тому +12

      Yup. Hence how he now speaks. A shame really

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour 9 місяців тому +7

      James Tony knocked out Holyfield with an uppercut to his shoulder blade.

    • @in_vas_por8810
      @in_vas_por8810 9 місяців тому +15

      @@ItIsYouAreNotYour Thats funny, but that 3 piece right before that is what did it.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 6 місяців тому +3

      It was the sparring that damaged Toney. He would go to war in training every day, it’s a miracle he can still talk at all

    • @sherrillraymond7595
      @sherrillraymond7595 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@HkFinn83he got hit in the back of his head alot

  • @christopherjudd8996
    @christopherjudd8996 10 місяців тому +110

    Possibly the greatest era of heavyweight boxing ever, I miss boxing in the 90s with those greats.

    • @grahamjames5934
      @grahamjames5934 10 місяців тому +10

      Greatest at headbutting and putting ointment on his gloves to burn his opponents eyes ! FACTS !!

    • @21GunStudio
      @21GunStudio 10 місяців тому +11

      2nd greatest era, unquestionably. 70s were better. I remember the 80s HW era was super maligned, but it was actually quite good - just had the misfortune of being referenced against the two decades that sandwiched it

    • @franklinbrandon5283
      @franklinbrandon5283 9 місяців тому +15

      Every sport was good in the 90s

    • @j.l.3685
      @j.l.3685 9 місяців тому

      Get rid of steroid testing and it would be that good again

    • @chuckurso593
      @chuckurso593 9 місяців тому +4

      2nd greatest era and maybe 3rd. for the 70's had the greatest heavyweights and the 80's had Larry Holmes who I would put ahead of all the heavyweights in the 90's. An old Larry gave Holyfield a run for his money. A young Larry would have made him look silly!

  • @99Matzu
    @99Matzu 10 місяців тому +72

    James Toney is a great often underrated fighter with a very interesting style

    • @sof5858
      @sof5858 10 місяців тому +6

      I lost my love for boxing a bit in the early 00's. Its was Toneys performances against Jirov and Holyfield and got me back into boxing again.
      1 in every 100 years type of talent. With better handling, maybe could have achieved more Championship success.
      Always had a performance in him.

    • @99Matzu
      @99Matzu 10 місяців тому +3

      @@sof5858 That Jirov fight was a work of art

    • @21GunStudio
      @21GunStudio 10 місяців тому +2

      Here’s an interesting perspective… we have no idea how good Toney’s chin was or wasn’t, because he was virtually impossible to hit cleanly

  • @michaels9917
    @michaels9917 10 місяців тому +257

    Will always give James Tony a monsoon of respect. Amazing boxer, and even stepped into the octagon with Randy Coture. Dude is a gladiator.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism 10 місяців тому +21

      He's nuts! XD XD, but definitely a scary and absolutely elite boxer.
      Apparently he didn't really like training or practicing, and didn't even like controlled sparring, so he would just spar like it was a real boxing match, and just get all these different boxers lined up to fight him for a round or two until they inevitably would quit or get knocked out, and the next one would go in.
      The guy was an animal! O_O

    • @horst-detlefkrawutschke8469
      @horst-detlefkrawutschke8469 9 місяців тому +6

      @@syncmonism Outstanding performance. This dude is dangerous.

    • @bluntsessions3577
      @bluntsessions3577 9 місяців тому +4

      😂He a goat but he’s punch drunk 😂

    • @normalnick9693
      @normalnick9693 9 місяців тому +3

      my fav. never got ko'd. sucks he popped for roids, that does hurt his chance of claiming to be one of the absolute best

    • @nastchristo7729
      @nastchristo7729 9 місяців тому +4

      ⁠@@normalnick9693I don’t think it does. Steroids is cheating by definition of the rule, however steroids doesn’t make you a better boxer in any way. You could take a shit load of steroids right now for 5 years and you still won’t be able to do the things Tony did in a ring. Fighters go through so many health issues outside of the ring that sometimes steroids are used just to help them recover from injuries they sustained in training. I personally think it shouldn’t be frowned upon and actually encouraged. At the end of the day they are putting their lives on the line strictly for our ENTERTAINMENT.

  • @T0X1CSPIKES
    @T0X1CSPIKES 10 місяців тому +467

    Man, I miss Holyfield. I love how much of a class act the dude was. When he lost, he didnt make excuses and he gave credit to his opponents where it was due. He's just one of those guys you could never bring yourself to root against, even if he was up against your favorite boxer.

    • @throwdownthenhoedown9074
      @throwdownthenhoedown9074 10 місяців тому +71

      huh. i've always thought of him as dirty with all the headbutts and punches after the bell.

    • @leocormeum3595
      @leocormeum3595 10 місяців тому +7

      That was Tyson after the bella d elbows holyfield used his head

    • @rahrahrasputin89
      @rahrahrasputin89 10 місяців тому +29

      @@throwdownthenhoedown9074 and the juicing

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 місяців тому +2

      FACTS! 👍

    • @yearight5303
      @yearight5303 10 місяців тому +23

      He couldn't get his headbutt going in this one.

  • @grumpy-dad3701
    @grumpy-dad3701 10 місяців тому +20

    That was a proper brawl. Don't see many fights like this

  • @Just_a_Reflection
    @Just_a_Reflection 9 місяців тому +69

    Lights Out Toney successfully used the Philly Shell against both Jirov and Michael Nunn when they were undefeated champions. I can't recall any other orthodox fighter doing it once against a world-class Southpaw in a title fight. His aggressive Shell, defensive instincts, reflxes, and power made him one of a kind. He was a special talent.

    • @barneysbar4032
      @barneysbar4032 9 місяців тому

      Wrong , toney weighed 157 while nunn was 160.

    • @Just_a_Reflection
      @Just_a_Reflection 9 місяців тому +1

      @barneysbar4032 What are you trying to say? They fought May 10, 1991. And 157 lbs isn't a division. Go play somewhere that you might be taken seriously.

    • @rph8704
      @rph8704 9 місяців тому

      Idk why James toney is so punch drunk given how stellar his defense was

    • @shaunp253
      @shaunp253 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@rph8704Because instead of road work, he would allegedly just do hella sparring. All those sparring battles take their toll.

  • @ericcartman5867
    @ericcartman5867 10 місяців тому +37

    James body shot is that good in the 6th round, it makes evanders leg lift up and you can see the shock in evanders face. One of the best body shots you will see

    • @bluntsessions3577
      @bluntsessions3577 9 місяців тому +4

      😂He tried to block it with his leg after it already hit him

    • @f16Azis
      @f16Azis 9 місяців тому

      07:05 здесь

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult 10 місяців тому +351

    Toney was an absolute artist in the ring.

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 місяців тому +4

      Terrence 🥊 Crawford:"Hold my 🍺" ; Error Spence:"I'll 🍷 drink to that..."

    • @boxinghistorian2629
      @boxinghistorian2629 10 місяців тому +21

      ​@@erinmeggik391no comparison

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 місяців тому +4

      @@boxinghistorian2629 L😆L at Error Spence:"Gonna break him down" and "Bud too light in the Azz" Yet it was Error Spence who got his Azz handed to him plus ends up resembling a defeated 👊 Street 🎮 Fighter video game fighter.

    • @i-churchcafe9136
      @i-churchcafe9136 10 місяців тому +17

      Roy Jones Jr. "hold my paint brushes"

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 місяців тому

      @@boxinghistorian2629 Error.Spence:"We gone smoke some Bud..." ; "Gonna break him down." results?? . Bud 🥊 beats Spence like he stole the Lord's 🍽️ Supper and Error ends up 🩸 bleeding from eyes resembling a defeated Vega from Street 🎮 Fighter game L😜L

  • @stlswagger
    @stlswagger 9 місяців тому +26

    If you're of the age that saw these fights live like I did, Toney was a fighters fighter in a time where Tyson was the bar. The sheer skill he had in big weight classes, Jesus. That man was a fight god

    • @robbsheff5982
      @robbsheff5982 9 місяців тому +1

      No lies detected here .. Toney could flat out fight/box

  • @brasstacksboxing409
    @brasstacksboxing409 9 місяців тому +34

    Toney was a dang defensive and counter punching guru. Head movement, and his eyes were second to none. The vision he had enabled his reflexes and timing. Absolute beast!

    • @dominiquec8244
      @dominiquec8244 6 місяців тому

      His defense sucked man its a juggernaut mentality he gets tagged to much because of that shit he does thankfully he had a good chin. His counter was on point i must give him that but he allows himself to get hit to much and it shows on him now

    • @shaunp253
      @shaunp253 6 місяців тому

      ​@@dominiquec8244 James Toney defense sucked? Never seen such blasphemy. 😂 He's fighting in the pocket, of course he's going to get tagged. Look at all the punches he's slipping and countering at that range.

    • @dominiquec8244
      @dominiquec8244 6 місяців тому

      @@shaunp253 and look at how much times he gets tagged. Dude just had a good chin

    • @shaunp253
      @shaunp253 6 місяців тому

      @@dominiquec8244 You need to run it back on slow mo or something, cause he's slipping and countering the majority of Evander's shots.

    • @brasstacksboxing409
      @brasstacksboxing409 6 місяців тому

      @@dominiquec8244 you know shit. This ain't touch football, this boxing, ya ninny. You never even laced up a pair 🥊

  • @LeftenantMalachi
    @LeftenantMalachi 10 місяців тому +33

    Tony's combos were LEGENDARY! Love his movement too, despite him gaining weight later on in his career

  • @jessfrankel5212
    @jessfrankel5212 10 місяців тому +265

    Holyfield was always a class act. Win or lose, he never made excuses, always lauded the other boxer's skills, and didn't whine or complain. Total legend.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 10 місяців тому +2

      And a drugs cheat.

    • @jessfrankel5212
      @jessfrankel5212 10 місяців тому +9

      @@cockoffgewgle4993 Fair enough. HOlyfield said he didn't take 'roids; I think he did, but so did a lot of other champs. They didn't get caught, though; Toney did.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 10 місяців тому +3

      @@jessfrankel5212 It's pretty obvious he did. There's firm evidence and you only need to look at his ridiculous physique and physical transformation.
      But it was assuredly widespread in boxing. It's ironic that a guy who took the title off Holyfield got done for doping.

    • @geyzeethesharkssniper5283
      @geyzeethesharkssniper5283 10 місяців тому +2

      Total legend..
      You're right

    • @magggotface
      @magggotface 10 місяців тому +1

      Pumped up on steroids his entire career...ya what a legend

  • @bluntsessions3577
    @bluntsessions3577 9 місяців тому +167

    Toney is the perfect example of why boxers like Crawford are so good. Anytime you move up in weight class and keep your speed it translates much better than power. This is why toney looked outta shape but was probably the fastest heavyweight since Ali.

    • @mawande23
      @mawande23 9 місяців тому +26

      True but I hate how it only goes one way in todays era cause once someone like Toney would lose in the HW division they’d say whoever beat him was the bigger man it was expected .. Eg : Mikey Garcia was at 135, won a belt at 140 and was a P4P star but when he lost to EJ all of a sudden EJ fought and bullied a small man .. fighting your Crawfords Toneys & Mikeys are tricky . You get criticised for losing and criticised for winning against them when they are actually elite fighters

    • @William-Morey-Baker
      @William-Morey-Baker 9 місяців тому +4

      Speed equals power... look it up. mass plus speed equals force. newtons 3rd law

    • @frankjoseph6071
      @frankjoseph6071 9 місяців тому +10

      malignaggi was fast but had no power@@William-Morey-Baker

    • @Sean-li4jm
      @Sean-li4jm 9 місяців тому +2

      That was the Fedor game plan in MMA and it worked perfectly for 10 years.

    • @jpw5029
      @jpw5029 9 місяців тому +4

      Bro ur out of whack, Toney is not super fast, even at hw, Roy, Tyson probs faster than Ali

  • @dereksteele5543
    @dereksteele5543 10 місяців тому +21

    Hollyfield was waaaaay past his prime in this fight.

    • @matthewanthony4606
      @matthewanthony4606 9 місяців тому +8

      So was toney

    • @i-55southstl55
      @i-55southstl55 3 місяці тому

      Exactly ​@@matthewanthony4606

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy 10 днів тому

      Stop with the excuses ..u goofball...James was damn near as old..just as much hard miles on him...pfffft hmmmmph Headbutt boy!!!

  • @rickydamiron8762
    @rickydamiron8762 9 місяців тому +7

    Counterpunching was next level. Wasn’t afraid to get into the pocket, James Toney.

  • @mediocreman6323
    @mediocreman6323 8 місяців тому +15

    “Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young.” Holyfield, what a legend! With the best mother ever.

    • @humanbean1424
      @humanbean1424 6 місяців тому +1

      Ok, boomer. - Vitor Belfort

    • @unggading6990
      @unggading6990 5 місяців тому

      Holyfield only wins via headbutt. Nobody respects this dude

  • @mikewiz1054
    @mikewiz1054 9 місяців тому +56

    I remember this fight. Absolute worth mentioning that Holyfield was 40 and Toney was 35. Both were considered ancient in boxing years. Great performance by both fighters and their conditioning was immaculate for their age. Holyfield was just too far past his prime to hurt a tank like Toney.

    • @Tonyplat98
      @Tonyplat98 8 місяців тому +1

      Agreed you can see that he just wasn't as fast as he used to be in his prime. Still one of the greatest fights I've seen between 2 very similar styles and very similarly matched heavyweights. They were both great and it was a legendary fight to witness.

    • @joeblough261
      @joeblough261 8 місяців тому +2

      I was a t this fight in person and was so depressed after. Holyfield is my all-time favorite fighter and Toney is in my top 5. Probably was my 2nd favorite fighter at that moment. We can't take away anything from Toney, he was brilliant that night, but he was in great shape (and most likely juicing) and coming off one of his best wins vs. Jirov, whereas Holyfield was so far past it (and possibly on HGH himself here). But he was still good enough to look great in the 1st round, and he landed some big shots on James, but Toney, (along with Holy) had one of the all-time best chins.

    • @Tonyplat98
      @Tonyplat98 8 місяців тому +1

      @@joeblough261 Yeah agreed but the truth is we will never know for sure if he was juicing or not. In either case he outboxed Hollifield that night. As a person Hollifield is still the better man.

    • @ppo6029
      @ppo6029 7 місяців тому

      James toney fought the Philly shell those fighters style keeps them good longer. Bernard Hopkins is Philly shell for example.

    • @track-lash3337
      @track-lash3337 6 місяців тому

      James Toney was busted for steroid use multiple times at heavyweight. At least All his wins @ that weight should have been ruled no contest or have an asterisk next to them

  • @daddydaycareah3994
    @daddydaycareah3994 10 місяців тому +6

    I’ve witnessed Toney training/sparring in person and it’s a sight. Scary dude

  • @OFFICIALPARTICLESGH
    @OFFICIALPARTICLESGH 10 місяців тому +76

    The thing about Toney’s defense was that he was always there in front of you. You could hit him. You just can’t hit him well.

    • @charleybrown8650
      @charleybrown8650 10 місяців тому +1

      Wtf you made no sense. The whole reason tony washed holyfield. Was cause holyfield had problems hitting him.

    • @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh
      @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh 10 місяців тому +19

      @@charleybrown8650 I think you misunderstood. Toney stands right in front of you, yet you cant really hit him. You might graze him with something, and maybe even land something, but its usually never a good clean shot. He doesnt have fast feet or mobility like some boxers, but his head movement and shoulder defence made up for it.

    • @charleybrown8650
      @charleybrown8650 10 місяців тому +2

      @@WarEnjoyer-gm5yh I think holyfield landed good shots and missed a lot of shots . Tony was getting tagged for the first few rounds and than beast mode kicked in

    • @manuelsoto9134
      @manuelsoto9134 10 місяців тому +5

      @@charleybrown8650He’s a guy who makes you feel like you’re fighting in a phone booth (if you’re old enough). He knows the angles, smoothers you, moves just enough.

    • @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh
      @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh 10 місяців тому +1

      @@charleybrown8650 Yep, holyfield started slowing down because he was past it and because toney even when he was fat had great cardio and hit really hard. Also because nothing could actually hurt toney, there was no way for evander to win by stoppage because in toneys own words "im undestructable"

  • @andyanderson5637
    @andyanderson5637 10 місяців тому +6

    James was the gangsta in boxing back in his day, very underestimated.

    • @21GunStudio
      @21GunStudio 10 місяців тому

      He had a Mofo’s attitude, that’s for sure! Serves you well in the hurtin business

  • @afb7553
    @afb7553 9 місяців тому +9

    Toney was so silky smooth on O&D... He was a joy to watch, a real technician in the ring

  • @AhmadHamzabalad
    @AhmadHamzabalad 9 місяців тому +7

    I'll never forget this fight. At the post fight interview Toney said " I put another southern brother in the ground" 😂😂😂

  • @JuggoJuggo
    @JuggoJuggo 10 місяців тому +36

    "I'm undestructable!"
    -James Toney

    • @feliscorax
      @feliscorax 10 місяців тому +1

      He’s the only fighter in history to start his bouts already destroyed - but you should see how the fights end.

    • @irvinmorales1409
      @irvinmorales1409 10 місяців тому

      He's got milk baby!

    • @matthewgibbs1366
      @matthewgibbs1366 10 місяців тому

      I was going to say the same thing. We know what you meant Tony. Lol

    • @sidhu139
      @sidhu139 10 місяців тому

      @JuggoJuggo Aar yu moaking hes graamur end spaling? Shaim aun yuu.

  • @MasterFatness
    @MasterFatness 10 місяців тому +73

    Holyfield was on point the first 4 rounds. He was really trying to knock Toney out. You rarely see Evander fight with that much zest so early in a fight. Unfortunately, the energy he expended in doing so came back to bite him.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 10 місяців тому +26

      No, it was a good decision by Holyfield. He knew Toney's defense was top notch and he probably would not be able to seriously hurt him in the later rounds anymore. It was a good shot to try and catch him with something early while he still had good pop in his strikes

    • @jaymack5875
      @jaymack5875 10 місяців тому +4

      It was his hepatitis that sapped him. Try fighting with something that will suck the life outta you at any time.

    • @dc8061
      @dc8061 10 місяців тому +11

      Wrong. He couldn't headbutt his way out of this one.

    • @eddieprieto6511
      @eddieprieto6511 10 місяців тому +10

      ​@dc8061 Hahahah, you must be some Tyson fan that can't let go of the past

    • @eddieprieto6511
      @eddieprieto6511 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@dc8061Tyson admitted that he himself was a dirty fighter.

  • @toneykaasman2359
    @toneykaasman2359 7 місяців тому

    Thank you boxing after dark for the great legendary fights and assessments. Keep them coming

  • @jacksonbauer5199
    @jacksonbauer5199 10 місяців тому +14

    The respect each showed for the other was some powerful nostalgia. I never understood why some fighters (yeah, “marketability”, but that’s not relevant to me in the slightest) talk endless shit about their opponents. If you call a guy a no talent bum and then you beat him, you beat a bum. Conversely, if he beats you, you just lost to a bum. I can admit that I’m not a talented boxer, but I have loved the sport since my grandfather would sit me down to watch old black and white bouts with him. I was a D1 collegiate wrestler though and I competed in Judo from an early age so I can relate to the “essence” of boxing. Like wrestling, boxing requires a mixture of skill, discipline, power, agility, intelligence and the willingness to suffer through adversity to attain something you want. Of course that’s a heavily abridged list, but it serves its intended purpose. My dad always told me to be as respectful as possible towards my opponents and whenever speaking about them, to be complimentary regarding their abilities and skill set. I never asked why, it just made sense particularly when applied to a scenario similar to the one I mentioned above.

    • @HanzLO88
      @HanzLO88 9 місяців тому +1

      Your grandfather taught you well.

    • @jacksonbauer5199
      @jacksonbauer5199 9 місяців тому +1

      That he did and he is sorely missed, but a bright spot in my mind is that I am able to pass on to my son what my father and his father passed on to me. Thanks for the kind words!

  • @frankguidera6828
    @frankguidera6828 10 місяців тому +5

    James Toney whenever he put his mind to something he could give you a show

  • @olliefoxx7165
    @olliefoxx7165 9 місяців тому +4

    I was very fortunate to grow up watching the greats of boxing. Holyfield and Toney are legends of the sport and made boxing exciting a fun. Many thanks to the legends for great memories.

  • @kizzy6304
    @kizzy6304 10 місяців тому +1

    this is one of the BEST boxing channels out there love your videos bro!!!

  • @BIGMAN-qe4dm
    @BIGMAN-qe4dm 10 місяців тому +6

    Love the videos man, love the structure all throughout.

  • @zackdicker9837
    @zackdicker9837 10 місяців тому +21

    NO HOLDING NO RUNNING JUST STRAIGHT OUT BOXING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SQUARED CIRCLE(A STRAIGHT OUT BRAWL WITH CLASS)💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

    • @grahamjames5934
      @grahamjames5934 10 місяців тому +1

      Just head butting, and ointment on gloves !!! No big deal !!!!!! SHFH !!!!

  • @vegasmitch1472
    @vegasmitch1472 10 місяців тому +3

    Didn't Know James Toney was that Good & i watched that Era. Just played poker with a guy that said He saw Toney, BoneCrusher & Ray Mercer at a Golf Course in South or North Carolina & that's what had Me watching a Fight of His. He Beat Holyfield So He Must have been Good!!

    • @kendall_5k720
      @kendall_5k720 9 місяців тому

      Merciless Ray Mercer and Bonecrusher Smith I would have loved to be there

  • @umungus518
    @umungus518 9 місяців тому

    I love the minimalist commentary. This is a great video style 👌 well done

  • @21PI12
    @21PI12 9 місяців тому +1

    Just came across your channel, really amazed at the quality you produce. Keep up the good work

  • @kevincarpenter3428
    @kevincarpenter3428 10 місяців тому +8

    James toney? Fail his english exam? That's unpossible!

    • @JezuzIsLord
      @JezuzIsLord 10 місяців тому +2

      Still can't believe he fought at 160

  • @Greg-io1ip
    @Greg-io1ip 10 місяців тому +20

    Toney was one of the hardest punchers out there. But this is 10+ years PAST Evander's prime. Not a real good example of Hollyfield's fantastic career.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 місяців тому +6

      it was hardly Toney's prime either - and Holyfield was a FAR bigger man...

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 10 місяців тому +3

      Toney was a middleweight who went up by gaining fat, Holyfield was on roids and had beaten Tyson twice. There's no excuses, Toney broke him.

  • @fivefiveniner1537
    @fivefiveniner1537 10 місяців тому +1

    Boxing After Dark....love it!!! 💯🥊💛

  • @JetBlack-jd7uw
    @JetBlack-jd7uw 4 місяці тому

    Boxing after Dark is the name of a real program I used to watch on espn, you’re a funny guy

  • @Khonnell66
    @Khonnell66 10 місяців тому +49

    This fight makes you realise just how good a prime RJJ was to have done to Toney what he did

    • @thediaz07
      @thediaz07 10 місяців тому +7

      FR!

    • @doitall36
      @doitall36 10 місяців тому +7

      Well Toney wasn't Weight drained fighting Heavyweight lol

    • @therealc.t.7085
      @therealc.t.7085 10 місяців тому +13

      @@doitall36Being weight drained isn’t why he lost to Roy.

    • @RRFriction
      @RRFriction 10 місяців тому +13

      ​​@@doitall36In the words of James Toney ...I shouldn't have underestimated Roy Jones

    • @ceciliaabdalla4954
      @ceciliaabdalla4954 10 місяців тому +7

      RJJ was built for boxing

  • @Greg-io1ip
    @Greg-io1ip 10 місяців тому +56

    I trained at Memorial Park in Houston when Hollyfield was training there. He wasn't but 5'10"-5'11", but he was a beast. All muscle and bone, and he could jog that 3.1 mile loop twice a day with calisthenics in between. Chin ups, pushups, etc. He was a true athlete.

    • @alrikmartin5325
      @alrikmartin5325 10 місяців тому +16

      Holyfield is definitely like 6'2. I been around him and I'm 5'10.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 місяців тому +11

      he's 6'2 or 6'3 ffs...

    • @Dogfood36
      @Dogfood36 10 місяців тому +3

      They say he like 6'4

    • @joeneil5485
      @joeneil5485 10 місяців тому +7

      closer to 7' and 340 lbs...

    • @michaellopez2070
      @michaellopez2070 10 місяців тому +1

      He’s a wenbenyma type build lanky as hell but quick hands actually

  • @spicymustardhotdogs394
    @spicymustardhotdogs394 9 місяців тому

    Your videos are great. Keep up the good work man.👍

  • @tothetopCarlos
    @tothetopCarlos 9 місяців тому

    That was a fantastic breakdown. New sub

  • @cuba8188
    @cuba8188 10 місяців тому +19

    Toney was my all time fav boxer fought anyone anytime any weight and never been knocked out not even in sparring! What a beast! One of the real old school legends! Loved to study his fight and never seen any fighter more poised and comfortable in the ring in my entire life! Had he taken training seriously I think he couldve beaten anyone at any weight class! Take notes kids this is how u box

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 10 місяців тому +1

      Roy Jones Jr was a bad match up for his style. Roy smothers his power hand after landing something and James toney had no answer

    • @cuba8188
      @cuba8188 10 місяців тому +2

      @@sky-oq5mr he was also weight drained and slacked off in the gym.. plus he was fighting one of the best ever..

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 10 місяців тому

      @@cuba8188 who slacks off for a fight against Roy Jones Jr? Really think about that question before you speak again. As for weight drained, it didn't seem to effect him at all, it was a hard fight. Roy nullified his offense, when the skill difference is at that level none of your excuses matter

    • @burtonaka...
      @burtonaka... 10 місяців тому +3

      Toney and Duran were as skilled as they come. When you put the picture in perspective, however, somebody wants to stifle that perspective because it grates against the inherent bias people harbor. Example: Duran fought Leonard and out-muscled him and dominated him in the early part of the bout. Leonard adjusted and they had some viscious exchanged. The thing about that fight, though, is that Leonard never dominated Duran the way Duran dominated him ( in the first part of the bout ) Now, it's a k own fact that Duran went up 2 whole weights to fight Leonard and he already had 70 fights. The intangible here is that he had something to prove: he wasn't done yet. It turns out that he began to slide as time progressed but it certainly wasn't in their first bout. Now Leonard legitimately lost against Duran at his best and defeated Thomas Hearns too.
      What sets both fights apart is that both fighters were in peak condition and most importantly, the proof of thus is how the fight goes down. So Duran needs a toilet and quits in the 2nd fight but then suddenly, it's not like Duran/Leonard 1 or Hearns/Leonard 1. He didn't suddenly become that much better than Duran. Definitely have to factor in conditoning.
      So the reason for the difference between Leonard Duran 1 and 2 isn't because suddenly one fighter became more skilled. It was conditioning. The first part of the Duran/Leonard first fight tells you that. Leonard withstood the early beating and came back. When you see a fight like Jones vs. Toney, it's beyond obvious that the same factor existed. It is a prime consideration, an obvious factor and a part of what is called a perspective. Toney wasn't at his best and the fans lost out, as with Duran vs. Leonard 2. I just don't see why narrow-minded people act as though weighing in on the true factors, no pun intended here, us somehow relegated to an excuse. I believe it reflects the limitation of the biased observer

    • @burtonaka...
      @burtonaka... 10 місяців тому +1

      The point is, everybody knows how great that Leonard/Hearns bout was and it came down to one factor: conditioning.
      A fighter with Hearns' body fat ratio, he succumbed to that...

  • @zackdicker9837
    @zackdicker9837 10 місяців тому +3

    WOW!! ALL THOSE BIG THUNDEROUS PUNCHES BOTH FIGHTERS DISTRIBUTED AND NO SWOLLEN FACES AND NOT MUCH BLOOD💯🔥🔥🤔

  • @Didderly
    @Didderly 10 місяців тому +1

    Great vid' many thanks for the upload

  • @Manneeyy
    @Manneeyy 9 місяців тому +2

    Boxing back then was way different than now. Look at this action packed fight😮

  • @BlackCanvasAudio
    @BlackCanvasAudio 10 місяців тому +12

    I watched this fight live in Vegas. James Toney is one of my all time favorite fighters. He was the underdog and I put 800 bucks on him. I won big when he knocked Evander out. Then I lost my mind later that night at Crazy Horse Too!!! lmaoooo

  • @youngdaileyjr
    @youngdaileyjr 9 місяців тому

    New to the channel. Subscribed after I watched the 1st vid. Keep bringing this heat!!

  • @experiencethevibemediainc
    @experiencethevibemediainc 9 місяців тому

    Great work!

  • @ControlAllDa1337
    @ControlAllDa1337 10 місяців тому +11

    James Toney was so freaking good man. One of the greats. Slick as all hell. Just don't put him in an octagon 😂

    • @tence_6965
      @tence_6965 9 місяців тому +1

      Dude was/is a warrior! Sad how he speaks now.

  • @DCavu
    @DCavu 10 місяців тому +4

    I've just discovered your channel. Great video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely will subscribe for more.

    • @BoxingAfterDark
      @BoxingAfterDark  10 місяців тому +2

      thank you, look forward to seeing you around!

  • @blake2411
    @blake2411 9 місяців тому

    Great video man

  • @2AHambino
    @2AHambino 9 місяців тому

    New follower, love the edit!!!

  • @Inca13
    @Inca13 10 місяців тому +6

    Both one of a kind fighters.. never see warriors like them again

  • @rscarf1
    @rscarf1 10 місяців тому +3

    Holyfield was 40 and Toney was 35. If Holyfield was 35, it would have been a different fight.

  • @dafullclip
    @dafullclip 9 місяців тому

    Excellent! Thanks.

  • @IdaiMakayaPublications
    @IdaiMakayaPublications 10 місяців тому

    This was a great video 👍

  • @stephenkirkwood3544
    @stephenkirkwood3544 10 місяців тому +5

    James Toney isn't indestructible, he's undestructible!!!

  • @asgardpictures
    @asgardpictures 10 місяців тому +9

    Yes Holyfield was past his prime but so was Toney, 10 years and 50 pounds heavier than his best days. While a little younger, Toney also at that point had 30 more professional bouts than EV. I think it evens out.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 місяців тому

      the fact that Holyfield only had a couple of pro fights as a light-heavy before moving up to cruiserweight, whereas Toney was a middleweight world champion is perhaps worth mentioning.
      Holyfield was a much bigger man in height and natural stature...

    • @joewilly6021
      @joewilly6021 10 місяців тому +1

      holyfield days a way from 41yrs old

  • @thewiz9727
    @thewiz9727 7 місяців тому

    Dayum. What an absolute clinic. Toney was just on a different level that night

  • @deckape714
    @deckape714 10 місяців тому

    Great commentary

  • @martinhughes2637
    @martinhughes2637 10 місяців тому +5

    Holyfield was always complete class. A real champion.

  • @Rockiii9
    @Rockiii9 10 місяців тому +44

    Evander was 40 yrs old. Although still impressive at that age, his reflexes, speed & stamina had, clearly, declined. Had this fight taken place a few years earlier, the result would have been very different.

    • @henrybiggs3113
      @henrybiggs3113 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jamesdeer3129/ Tony was a natural light heavyweight coming out of high school... He lost weight to be able to fight middleweight... That wasn't his natural weight & he beat every body down there but Roy Jones... He couldn't beat Jones @ middleweight... His style fit heavyweights more...💯💯💯

    • @benjaminjackson793
      @benjaminjackson793 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@henrybiggs3113tony still looked soft aginst roy, despite being #2 mw in world after roy. He wasnt some super big MW, he coulda gone down 7 more pounds and hit a lower weight class back then. Natural LHW is cap

    • @henrybiggs3113
      @henrybiggs3113 10 місяців тому

      @@benjaminjackson793 / Toney was 5-9 / 5-10 205 graduating high school, the cap is where...🤔🤔🤔 That's his natural body before boxing... Show me a boxer naturally @ that weight that went down & fought middle weight & stayed there...🤔🤔🤔 Jones was a natural middleweight... He bulked up to go light heavyweight / heavyweight... It's way harder conditioning wise to maintain under your natural weight than it is to bulk over it... Toney would never beat Jones @ Super middleweight... With fluids fluctuations, & dehydration problems from the shift, Toney would always be lethargic against the naturally quicker Jones, period... That's not cap, that's human science...🙄🙄🙄

    • @grahamjames5934
      @grahamjames5934 10 місяців тому

      He wouldn't have mercy ! HE WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOCKED THE Fuc#$d out !!! LMFAO

    • @keepemcumming4417
      @keepemcumming4417 9 місяців тому +4

      I love Toney but a young Holyfield would of smoked Toney

  • @jamesmkay
    @jamesmkay 10 місяців тому +1

    Bro this was like 2 unstoppable objects vs 2 immovable ones. What a fight

  • @inujoshwa89
    @inujoshwa89 9 місяців тому +1

    "Magnificent talent never leaves"❤

  • @markojokanovic349
    @markojokanovic349 10 місяців тому +6

    Round of applause ladies and gentlemen, for the referee who had the balls to be in the ring between the two 😅😂

  • @Robsam28
    @Robsam28 10 місяців тому +5

    Two warriors, Toney is one of the most skillful and tough boxers in boxing.

  • @toneykaasman2359
    @toneykaasman2359 7 місяців тому

    Both James and Evander are two of the best boxing has ever known, their contribution to boxing is legit legendary and remarkable. Two greats

  • @jeffgillson
    @jeffgillson 10 місяців тому +1

    Pretty slick with that "Evan"
    @11:17

  • @i-churchcafe9136
    @i-churchcafe9136 10 місяців тому +3

    Toney could have NEVER beaten Holyfield, ( or anyone else ) in their prime. Roy Jones Jr. Beat the snot out of Toney, what do you think a Holifield in his prime would have done?

  • @kingtyomama6564
    @kingtyomama6564 10 місяців тому +7

    James Toney was soooooo talented. This was an enjoyable beatdown of the king of Headbutts Evander "Many Losses" Holyfield

    • @f16Azis
      @f16Azis 9 місяців тому

      Спасибо я тоже рад уничтожению Холифилда

  • @adeniranpromise1641
    @adeniranpromise1641 9 місяців тому +1

    One of the few times in combat sports when a showboater gets away without getting violated. It takes the best of the best to achieve that.

  • @Zane_Zaminsky
    @Zane_Zaminsky 9 місяців тому

    Man, those wicked body shots by Toney! 👊💥

  • @transformyalifestyle1349
    @transformyalifestyle1349 10 місяців тому +9

    Holyfield a legend! Toney what a BEAST, he would dominate these days heavyweights , slick and powerful

    • @claytonandrews1907
      @claytonandrews1907 10 місяців тому

      You done lost your mind. James Toney was a non disciplined FIGHTER WHO WOULD NOT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO EVEN STAY IN THE RING FOR 4 OR 5 ROUNDS WITH HOLYFIELD IN HIS PRIME. AND GIYS LIKE TYSON FURY and the Bronze BOMBER WOULD KILL TONEYS SHORT FAT SELF

  • @TomTom-rh5gk
    @TomTom-rh5gk 10 місяців тому +3

    James Toney one of the greatest fighter ever,

  • @arthurbrown-jy2ez
    @arthurbrown-jy2ez 9 місяців тому

    Great video really well done I just subscribed to you

  • @mauricecampbell-stiles4902
    @mauricecampbell-stiles4902 9 місяців тому

    The sound effects were great. You could hear each punch land.

  • @andrewmorris6187
    @andrewmorris6187 10 місяців тому +4

    Holyfield was past his prime and had been in way to many hard fights.

    • @Bidness100
      @Bidness100 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah He Just Look Like He Was Out Of It

  • @yamucha
    @yamucha 9 місяців тому +5

    Loved this fight, watched it several times. Evander tried to use them headbutts he used on Tyson but Toney was too slick. Good job Toney ✊🏾 also loved the show boating to the judges 😆

  • @infocision777
    @infocision777 9 місяців тому

    These boxing videos are so addicting

  • @WantCoffee99
    @WantCoffee99 10 місяців тому +2

    When it comes to boxing or any sport at the highest level, the difference between 35 and 40 is much bigger than the numbers would suggest.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 місяців тому

      yeah, we'll just ignore the huge difference in natural size as well shall we...

    • @joewilly6021
      @joewilly6021 10 місяців тому

      evander all most 41yrs old

  • @Barcodev43
    @Barcodev43 10 місяців тому +3

    That head movement and walk back was sick at 5:18

  • @williamblackfyre4866
    @williamblackfyre4866 9 місяців тому +7

    Holyfield was such a warrior. The amount of time I've watched him just sit in the pocket and exchange. Just crazy the amount of punishment he's taken over the years and continued to push forward. He's 40 here and clearly outmatched, but man, he is just absorbing those shots, thank God they threw in the towel.

  • @bobtranquilli9985
    @bobtranquilli9985 9 місяців тому +1

    Wasnt much of a Holyfield fan, but he accepted the loss graciously.

  • @DM-uz7lf
    @DM-uz7lf 9 місяців тому +1

    Damn Toney was f#cking fast and his reflexes were like lightning 😬

  • @musicdunc
    @musicdunc 10 місяців тому +5

    Holyfield was done at this point. Tony benefited from the wear and tear that the champ had endured over the years.

  • @greg2380NY
    @greg2380NY 9 місяців тому +4

    Evander was one of the best in his prime and I doubt he would’ve lost to Tony back then. But Tony was a big, quick beast that had it all. He beat the breaks off Holyfield in this fight landing hard power punches with speed and precision. Even Holyfield said he was shocked by Tony’s speed. James Tony is one of the most underrated fighters because of his KO loss to Roy jones jr.

    • @keithallsop
      @keithallsop 8 місяців тому

      Loss by UD to RJJ, fight went the distance. RJJ was in another dimension at that time, untouchable.

  • @ronniejones6075
    @ronniejones6075 9 місяців тому

    Very much interesting 😂, Thanks !

  • @robertmagana8784
    @robertmagana8784 9 місяців тому

    Awesome video

  • @gravel2474
    @gravel2474 9 місяців тому +74

    You could tell Holyfield was older because he landed far fewer headbutts against Toney than he did against previous opponents

    • @mateaukalua4426
      @mateaukalua4426 9 місяців тому +6

      😂😂

    • @dpar9891
      @dpar9891 9 місяців тому +12

      Headbutt Champion

    • @goldman77700
      @goldman77700 8 місяців тому +8

      All those headbutts slowed down his headbutt output. Who knew? 😂

    • @pikkon899
      @pikkon899 7 місяців тому +4

      No headbutts were landed because the ref kept telling Evander through out the entire fight; "watch your head, Evander!" Holyfield already had the reputation of headbutting and Toney's corner successfully got the ref to check for them. Evander also moved slower because he came back from surgery. His left shoulder was repaired but it gave out on him after the 3rd. You can see that he could no longer keep his left hand up because his shoulder was gone and his output decreased. Watch the entire fight. Don't watch edits like these. They paint an entirely different narrative than what actually took place. Toney beat Evander, no question about it but not like how this video presents it.

    • @BlueKidSwag
      @BlueKidSwag 6 місяців тому +6

      Oh shush hater. He has more ability in his left toe nail than you do in your entire being

  • @dimviesel
    @dimviesel 10 місяців тому +5

    You not only have to survive Holyfield’s fists….but his headbutts as well. Yikes!

  • @Niggleblade1986
    @Niggleblade1986 9 місяців тому

    Each shot sounds like an explosion. Some heavy hands

  • @Rankbaajin
    @Rankbaajin 9 місяців тому

    An incredible fight one of the best

  • @needz2feed
    @needz2feed 10 місяців тому +4

    This is what happens to Holyfield when he can't hug and headbutt.

  • @starbwoy133
    @starbwoy133 9 місяців тому

    I've just realised something about Tony's style of boxing.....he fights like a slick south paw but from an orthodox stance. It's beautiful to watch

  • @joemadsen2917
    @joemadsen2917 9 місяців тому +1

    What a battle!!!

  • @einzelgalger52223
    @einzelgalger52223 9 місяців тому +3

    That's avenging the loss of Tyson to the headbutt-style cheating of Holyfield, not once, but in both fights.

  • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
    @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 місяців тому +21

    It's incredible to see a man so at home in a fight, so untroubled with getting punched in the face, as James Toney.
    He was literally born to fight...

    • @OldielocksNmo50
      @OldielocksNmo50 10 місяців тому +1

      Toney at one time fought as a middle weight

    • @guidoschmidt7374
      @guidoschmidt7374 10 місяців тому +1

      Holyfield is one of the Greatest.
      The Lose on fantastic James Toney,...Was to the and of his carier