Forgot to mention I also wanted to test the following games, which did NOT work out. - Battlefield 2042 -> caused a Blue Screen on start Up. (FU EA) - FIFA 2024 -> crashed on startup (FU EA) - Fallout 4 -> Just refused to start at all - Naraka: Bladepoint -> Wanted me to disable some RAM security to start (common issue, couldn't be bothered doing that, sorry)
@@Hubwood No idea. I rarely use Steam any more. I think I remember reading something on the GOG forum about downgrading version, but yeah...I hope this is not a "thing" and whatever caused it gets fixed. If a PC can't run any single player Fallout game, it's not a PC. But that's just me. :p
Some claim that disabling "RAM security" aka memory integrity would give them a 10-15% performance boost with the Asus Ally. I could justify disabling it on a handheld/PC, if you don't do much else than game on it. Or just disable it temporarily when gaming.
@@mariussm7797 Where I'm from the 8845HS is the same price as an i5 + 2050 laptop. The R9 370 will probably hover around the same price as an i7 + 3050 30W model which is slightly more expensive but around the same price.
Strong performance on release. No doubt the upcoming handhelds will be based on this architecture and a modified 890m like 780m so I would expect to see lots of performance gains from future drivers. Would be interesting to revist these tests after these handhelds have released.
I don’t believe the 780m on max Z1E will be substituted by an 880M. This chip with so many cores / 890M is just 15-30% faster in real life, if they cut everything down on a Z2E, it will be just as fast as the previous chip but just consuming less. That means people won’t feel the need to buy it. The only thing to cut down could be the number of CPU cores, it will reduce the TDP further and in games you won’t fold any difference. But to cut the GPU further down is a bad idea.
Thank you for this, amigo! I know it took a lot of effort to set up/play/benchmark this many games just for one single video. Much appreciated! I know it's a huge ask but if you feel up to it I would love to see a few gaming benchmarks (especially RDR2) with the same in-game settings but with AFMF2 enabled.
You are the first gamer I hear say Elden Ring making him feel depressed. I never played the game, I don't own it, but it always looked to me beautiful but sooooo depressing as the other similar games ("souls" games). I am glad someone else comes out and says that. Thanks for the video. The performance is very good for an entry gaming system, or perhaps something which can play modern titles with some drops of settings, but I am pretty sure it will handle all AAA titles from the past with ease. Good job AMD.
I actually finished the main game. I wanted to see if I'm good enough for that. But it was really hard sometimes convincing myself to go on, as it really just made me... feel weird, maybe even sad at times. It's so empty, yet beautiful at times. Some scenerys and views make you really feel the essence of melancholy. That was also multiplyed by the fact that everyone seems to speak in riddles, (quests are horribly designed in my opinion) and no "normal" people or creatures are around at all. It's like everyone is a bit crazy, half dead, ignorant, doesn't care... weird to describe. It is a good game in it's own way, good gameplay, tough fights here and there...
@Hubwood Thank you. I totally get what you are talking about. Definitely not for me. Reminds me of the movie Brazil or even the movie The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Great movies with fantastic visuals and atmosphere. But at the same time feel like nightmares to me partly to the lack of normal . 😃 Depression sets in. 😃
@@robertopazsoldan9641 you might rethink the concept of insulting/shaming or making fun of people that admit such things. And when you really thought about it, I hope you come to the conclusion that that is not a thing you should do.
@robertopazsoldan9641 I am not going to add anything about your attempt of insult, @hubwood said it fine. I do wonder though what exactly you meant by that. Generation and crystal. Strictly from a scientific point of view.
you must own $5,000 worth of games! Nice job reviewing. I'm really looking forward to a comparison between this iGPU and the upcoming Intel Lunar Lake iGPU.
You sir, are a legend for doing all this hard work. I think this is really amazing considering the power usage! Impressive improvements over the 780M for sure.
I am absolutely sure that they will use this processor in the new generation handheld consoles. I'm thinking of buying a handheld console, but I'll wait for this processor. Its performance is very good.
i personally would buy steamdeck if i want, not sure windows os seems boring to me, also too complicated for buyers who want simple gaming such as their competitor nintendo switch
7:50 Thanks a lot for including Genshin Impact. I believe it's possible to walk towards Sumeru (4th) and/or ride a boat to Fontaine (5th nation) past the Prologue part. SOP for new players these days is to turn the MC into a Dendro unit as early as possible. xD Sumeru desert and Fontaine cities are places where my phone tanks a bit.
Yeah though despite the scepticism the Radeon 780m was actually pretty popular and used on a lot of (also cheaper) systems :) so may this time that will happen again.
For Minecraft try shaders(complementary unbound or reimagined ) and almost lots use 16 chunks or less And also appreciate the alphabetical arrangement of the games tested !
Good video one of the bet benchmarking vids due to your excellent readable screen FPS (not microscopic like other sites) and your technica commentary. i would suggest adding Baldur Gate 3 and Forspoken for benchmark as thoes 2 are nasty FPS hog at high quality setting.. You already put the mandatory Starfield , CyberPunk , RDR and Eldenring so far
AMD APUs got to the point where they are usable. I do recommend people lower tier integrated GPUs from them as well as it offers a fantastic value. Technology went so far from my last upgrade cycle. I bought i3 6006 CPU with 950M GPU. It was cheaper than such laptop today, but still. Considering that we went from buying crappy laptop GPUs to having integrated solutions these days delivering better results than GPUs back in a day. The only issue with this GPU is that it tends to have horrible 1% lows. It will certainly feel like a crappy experience to play with this iGPU. I'm looking forward to their next gen GPUs with more bandwidth, because it seems like a massive issue for HX 370.
Pretty nice results for an APU, would be great to get something like this in a potential steam deck 2. The CPU is obviously overkill so a custom design with a similar GPU cluster but a smaller CPU would be cool. Get on it Valve.
For the price, the gaming intention is only for consumers for the portability purposes because of the lower weight and power consumption but this is still a fancy desition.
@Hubwood I apologize for pestering but I have subscribed as a thanks I have been watching your videos very informative I have narrowed my gaming laptop search to 3 taking the price out which would you recommend between the Lenovo LOQ 15" (AMD) The ASUS TUF A16 Advantage Edition and the GIGABYTE G6X
We are getting rather close to APUs giving stable 60fps on the laptop native resolution. I really wish either Intel or AMD would actually make a chip like that. At this point it is more a question of will instead of techniccal capability.
3:30 Notice how clean and crisp 1080p FSR Performance mode looks in CS vs the next game, Cyberpunk, which runs at 1080p FSR Quality and looks like a blurry mess...?
What a huge effort to test all this games on this new APU , sad you didnt include God of war PC version , and some emulation with RPCS3 and PCX2 will be apreciated
Could you possibly do a test in Euro Truck Simulator 2? It has a huge community, yet no one does testing in that game. I suspect it could run in 1080p max settings in 60fps easily
Frame Generation erhöht die Latenz tatsächlich etwas, da wird aber wiederum gegengesteuert. Somit ist es vorallem für Single Player Spiele kein Problem!
Im really looking for a productivity-focused laptop that can also play games decently and I think the new Zenbook S16 might be it. Do you guys think it'll run the new DBZ Sparking Zero just fine?
you can test minecraft consistently by making a minecraft ride of about 2x your render distance and letting the camera be, if you wanna test the CPU you could just time how long a set seed takes to generate or how long it took to generate a certain amount of chunks (get a new world on a set seed and TP to a far away location and time how long it takes before chucks stop generating)
Love your videos, thanks for all the work man! 👏🏻I think what you do is very valuable, while adding a splash of humor here and there :) I also have some brief questions: do you think there is any performance difference between the 890M in this Vivobook S14 and a 890M in laptops that have more breathing room like the the Asus ProArt P13 or P16? Also, do you know of any upcoming Lenovo laptops with the 890M? Those usually perform very well in my experience.
I don't think there will be a noticable difference. The Performance seemed to kinda stall between 45 and 55W. So I'm not expecting more from higher TDPs at this point. Driver updates could help more in the future. NOt knowing of any lenovo laptops with it yet, sorry. 😅
If they could get this working in a CPU made for 15-32w, it could be the next big step in PC handhelds. I have a GPD Win4 and even if it does run Cyberpunk, it's not doing amazing either. 720p low with FSR and getting 45-50fps. I feel like this thing could do 720p, medium/high, FSR and get a solid 60fps.
playing current aaa games smoothly on non gpu laptop was impossible before this vega 890 kind of revolutionary, youll play older aaa games easily maxed like gta5 etc
it should also be faster on high settings in almost all cases. It also depends on the Laptops, the RAM and the TDP Setting though. I have a video in which I directly compare it to the 780m. So check that one out!
gpu power is good but what is the over all system/laptop draw from the wall socket when gaming please Hubwood. Yes looking forward to AMD next Gpu review.👍👍
In some games the gpu utilization is not at 100% which means a bottleneck probably the 12 cpu cores are draining the energy from the gpu. I have seen benchmarks for the 880m have similar performance to the 890m because it only has 8 cpu cores which means the gpu has more energy to work with.
Btw for the minecraft java benchmark you should use a optimization modpack like simply optimized. I use it on my mini pc with a 6900hx and 680m graphics, and with 20 chunks + high settings I get around 230 fps at 1440p with it.
@@Hubwood Do you think it is a worthy investment to buy a mini pc with this GPU? I have a 3080 and I think of using it as an external card, but not very sure.
I bought the 680m in the form of a ryzen 7 7735hs a year and a half ago and was astonished with how powerful built in graphics were getting then, and in such a short time it’s already gotten so much better, tech is evolving extremely fast now, alarmingly you could say even
@@Hubwood nice, 20w results are looking good but at 30w the difference is not that big. If it's going to be in a new generation of handhelds the selling point will be efficiency
Next time in Minecraft try shaders and try walking around to get a better idea of 1% Lows. Turning up render distance isn’t really stressing the gpu it’s cpu dependant. So the shaders would stretch the gpu to the limit
@@mariussm7797 thats what u say when u just watch one persons benchmarks...I'm about to upload my recording on the same games in some time to start my yt channel. It will be on the galaxy book 4 pro with 40w tdp. Be sure to have a look at it. I'll ping u in the comments when done
@@princehariz7859 I saw a video where the 370 scored about 60 fps while the ultra 7 scored 40 fps which is not a huge difference in experience at all. Might be on paper but trust me. The Only differenece is from 30 to 60 and 60 to 90/120. The only thing I liked about the hx 370 was that this performance was at half the power which is amazing. But that 20 fps difference is not a major aspect to make a decision. The reason Im even asking for a comparison is bcos the hx has not released in India and there are no signs of it releasing either. Neither did any of the x elites released in india. Thats why Im planning not to wait and settle with the ultra 7 which is good enough for 99% ppl.
I really hope someone can compare this laptop with to the Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 / 7i. It's the only slim laptop with preview gen Ryzen 7 8845HS + RTX 3050 6gb. In this way we can see which is the best for gaming since they are on the same category of price.
Bro, please include fps of these games at high settings too, i would definitely like to see what happens when we play single player games like assassin's creed, cyberpunk etc on high settings on these apu.
Yeah I'd love to test all these games in all of their settings :D But it almost takes me a week to make a video like this already :) Downloading and installing the games (I can't use external drives for all of them, many have to be freshly installed for every system) getting them to run as intended, fix issues if issues appear, find settings that make sense, benchmarking them, then recording 10-15 minutes of gameplay, after recording them I write the 5 pages of script for the video, then I record myself reading the script, then I edit the final video with choosing scenes, adding FPS and 1% lows, upload it and adjust the UA-cam Details, Keywords, Time Stamps etc. For a Video like that this already takes about 40 (forty!) hours. As I'm doing that BESIDEs having a full time job and family... I just can't do it for every setting. I hope you understand :/
Force the game to use just the first 8 threads Latency between the CCD with Zen 5 and the CCD with Zen 5c is huge destroying the 1% lows And Windows love to spread the load between all cores making it worse By doing this you force the load in one CCD (the good one) and it don't need to wait for the other CCD
I actually did this (Not for this video, but beforehand). It seemed as this would only be the case for when I was using it at 17W or Lower. For 45W and above there was no difference in AVG or 1% Low FPS.
It doesnt have to. I was just using the highest possible TDP. Can also be run with for example 10, 16, 20, 30, 45W etc. With great performance at lower wattages.
with pc you cant keep waiting for another release, buy what best atm you decide to buy, for now 8700g is the best buy that and upgrade next/2 yrs to 990m vega
Haha I bet it is But that's not the reason. I don't know how to play Dota 2, so I didn't want to spoil other people's fun/game . 😅 And my gameplay would be horrible to watch 😬
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Forgot to mention I also wanted to test the following games, which did NOT work out.
- Battlefield 2042 -> caused a Blue Screen on start Up. (FU EA)
- FIFA 2024 -> crashed on startup (FU EA)
- Fallout 4 -> Just refused to start at all
- Naraka: Bladepoint -> Wanted me to disable some RAM security to start (common issue, couldn't be bothered doing that, sorry)
Which version of Fallout 4, GOG or Steam? Also the recently updated one or the one before the "remastering"?
Just curious.
@@TrusteftTech Steam, well I assume recent version. Is there a way to choose that before starting it? 😅
@@Hubwood No idea. I rarely use Steam any more. I think I remember reading something on the GOG forum about downgrading version, but yeah...I hope this is not a "thing" and whatever caused it gets fixed. If a PC can't run any single player Fallout game, it's not a PC. But that's just me. :p
@@Hubwood GOG version is the best.
Some claim that disabling "RAM security" aka memory integrity would give them a 10-15% performance boost with the Asus Ally. I could justify disabling it on a handheld/PC, if you don't do much else than game on it. Or just disable it temporarily when gaming.
31 Games 💪Thanks for all the hard work
😅 going to bed now 😴
@@Hubwoodrest well champ 💪
Crazy how this performs as good as a 30W 2050 dGPU with faster GDDR6 memory.
Yes but is 3x more expensive....
@@mariussm7797 Where I'm from the 8845HS is the same price as an i5 + 2050 laptop.
The R9 370 will probably hover around the same price as an i7 + 3050 30W model which is slightly more expensive but around the same price.
@@johnfreeman5956 and it will have better battery life on laptops vs the i5 + 2050
@@johnfreeman5956 R9 370?
@@sparkz6381 Yes but the 2050 has DLSS, it depends if the priority is gaming or not.
Great review, this will help a lot of people. Nice to see igpus keep improving.
Strong performance on release. No doubt the upcoming handhelds will be based on this architecture and a modified 890m like 780m so I would expect to see lots of performance gains from future drivers. Would be interesting to revist these tests after these handhelds have released.
I don’t believe the 780m on max Z1E will be substituted by an 880M. This chip with so many cores / 890M is just 15-30% faster in real life, if they cut everything down on a Z2E, it will be just as fast as the previous chip but just consuming less. That means people won’t feel the need to buy it.
The only thing to cut down could be the number of CPU cores, it will reduce the TDP further and in games you won’t fold any difference. But to cut the GPU further down is a bad idea.
@@ricarmigAsus should've waited to release the Rog Ally X. If they released it with the 880m clocked down then they could've had amazing battery life.
Looking forward to this one. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you for this, amigo! I know it took a lot of effort to set up/play/benchmark this many games just for one single video. Much appreciated! I know it's a huge ask but if you feel up to it I would love to see a few gaming benchmarks (especially RDR2) with the same in-game settings but with AFMF2 enabled.
@@mannydcbianco cyberpunk, The last of us, and kingdom come deliverance did have AFMF enabled :)
You are the first gamer I hear say Elden Ring making him feel depressed. I never played the game, I don't own it, but it always looked to me beautiful but sooooo depressing as the other similar games ("souls" games). I am glad someone else comes out and says that.
Thanks for the video. The performance is very good for an entry gaming system, or perhaps something which can play modern titles with some drops of settings, but I am pretty sure it will handle all AAA titles from the past with ease. Good job AMD.
I actually finished the main game. I wanted to see if I'm good enough for that. But it was really hard sometimes convincing myself to go on, as it really just made me... feel weird, maybe even sad at times. It's so empty, yet beautiful at times. Some scenerys and views make you really feel the essence of melancholy. That was also multiplyed by the fact that everyone seems to speak in riddles, (quests are horribly designed in my opinion) and no "normal" people or creatures are around at all. It's like everyone is a bit crazy, half dead, ignorant, doesn't care... weird to describe. It is a good game in it's own way, good gameplay, tough fights here and there...
@Hubwood Thank you. I totally get what you are talking about. Definitely not for me. Reminds me of the movie Brazil or even the movie The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Great movies with fantastic visuals and atmosphere. But at the same time feel like nightmares to me partly to the lack of normal . 😃 Depression sets in. 😃
Elden ring make you depressed? Well you generation of crystal, what i have to expect 😂
@@robertopazsoldan9641 you might rethink the concept of insulting/shaming or making fun of people that admit such things. And when you really thought about it, I hope you come to the conclusion that that is not a thing you should do.
@robertopazsoldan9641 I am not going to add anything about your attempt of insult, @hubwood said it fine. I do wonder though what exactly you meant by that. Generation and crystal. Strictly from a scientific point of view.
You're a legend! Thank you sir! 😉
You're welcome!
imagine this thing on handheld gaming like ROG ALLY or else, damn nice!!!
you must own $5,000 worth of games! Nice job reviewing. I'm really looking forward to a comparison between this iGPU and the upcoming Intel Lunar Lake iGPU.
Will do that ;)
Not 5.000 lots of F2P and games on sales or key shops 😅
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I'd be very interested to see the 890m used in handhelds. Performance per watt seems great for this chip.
You sir, are a legend for doing all this hard work. I think this is really amazing considering the power usage! Impressive improvements over the 780M for sure.
Amazing review! Thanks.
I am following the GDP Duo wich I think is an interesting laptop, probably funny to use, and has this APU
I am absolutely sure that they will use this processor in the new generation handheld consoles. I'm thinking of buying a handheld console, but I'll wait for this processor. Its performance is very good.
i personally would buy steamdeck if i want, not sure windows os seems boring to me, also too complicated for buyers who want simple gaming such as their competitor nintendo switch
i mean switch and steamdeck offers better simple usage, buy games and play, the purpose of handheld gaming
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 I also want to use the handheld console as a portable mini PC. That's why I'll buy a handheld console like Legion go.
This is awesome. Great video 👍
7:50 Thanks a lot for including Genshin Impact. I believe it's possible to walk towards Sumeru (4th) and/or ride a boat to Fontaine (5th nation) past the Prologue part. SOP for new players these days is to turn the MC into a Dendro unit as early as possible. xD
Sumeru desert and Fontaine cities are places where my phone tanks a bit.
I mean clearly to do light gaming, it is definitely good enough hardware. The only drawback is the price for now.
Yeah though despite the scepticism the Radeon 780m was actually pretty popular and used on a lot of (also cheaper) systems :) so may this time that will happen again.
For Minecraft try shaders(complementary unbound or reimagined ) and almost lots use 16 chunks or less
And also appreciate the alphabetical arrangement of the games tested !
Good video one of the bet benchmarking vids due to your excellent readable screen FPS (not microscopic like other sites) and your technica commentary.
i would suggest adding Baldur Gate 3 and Forspoken for benchmark as thoes 2 are nasty FPS hog at high quality setting..
You already put the mandatory Starfield , CyberPunk , RDR and Eldenring so far
I actually often test BG3, but at some point I have to decide which games I include into the video or it will just take too much time :D
@@Hubwood maybe in future , after all these games are notorious for fps hog (BG3 , Starfield , Forspoken)
AMD APUs got to the point where they are usable. I do recommend people lower tier integrated GPUs from them as well as it offers a fantastic value. Technology went so far from my last upgrade cycle. I bought i3 6006 CPU with 950M GPU. It was cheaper than such laptop today, but still. Considering that we went from buying crappy laptop GPUs to having integrated solutions these days delivering better results than GPUs back in a day.
The only issue with this GPU is that it tends to have horrible 1% lows. It will certainly feel like a crappy experience to play with this iGPU. I'm looking forward to their next gen GPUs with more bandwidth, because it seems like a massive issue for HX 370.
Give it a few more months….better drivers and games updates will further improve the experience and the PRICE!
Pretty nice results for an APU, would be great to get something like this in a potential steam deck 2. The CPU is obviously overkill so a custom design with a similar GPU cluster but a smaller CPU would be cool. Get on it Valve.
Should i get this or Zenbook 14 OLED
For the price, the gaming intention is only for consumers for the portability purposes because of the lower weight and power consumption but this is still a fancy desition.
@Hubwood I apologize for pestering but I have subscribed as a thanks I have been watching your videos very informative I have narrowed my gaming laptop search to 3 taking the price out which would you recommend between the Lenovo LOQ 15" (AMD) The ASUS TUF A16 Advantage Edition and the GIGABYTE G6X
Can you post all the hardware details of the 3? CPU, GPU, ram, SSD and screen
First
• 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD
• 13th Gen Intel 10-core i7-13620H Processor
• 16 FHD+ 1920x1200 IPS Anti-glare 165Hz (100% sRGB, MUX Switch + NVIDIA Advanced Optimus), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB
• CPU Model Speed: 360 GHz
Second
• 16.0" IPS-level Wide QXGA (2560x1600) 240Hz Display
• AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS Octa Core】 7th Gen AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS 4.0GHz Processor (upto 5.2 GHz, 16MB Cache, 8-Cores, 16-Threads, ) ; Radeon RX 7700S 8GB GDDR6 Dual (Integrated+Dedicated) Graphics, .
• 32GB DDR5 SODIMM;
• 1TB PCIe NVMe SSD
Third
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU 8GB GDDR6
• 13th Gen Intel Core i7-13620H Processor 4.9 GHz
• DDR5 4800 16GB*2 (32GB), 2TB Storage (Gen4 M.2 SSD)
• 16.0" 16:10 WUXGA 1920x1200, 165Hz
Sorry I'm not too knowledgeable I pulled it all from their spec section
We are getting rather close to APUs giving stable 60fps on the laptop native resolution. I really wish either Intel or AMD would actually make a chip like that. At this point it is more a question of will instead of techniccal capability.
Bro this laptop plays better than my 1650 gaminng laptop
That is possible, yes... 🙈
3:30 Notice how clean and crisp 1080p FSR Performance mode looks in CS vs the next game, Cyberpunk, which runs at 1080p FSR Quality and looks like a blurry mess...?
I never expect an igpu be playing helldivers 2 and starfield
Can you turn off FSR in the CS2 gameplay test? We really don't like using it for competitive matches.
perfect processor for mini pc without needing to spend more on eGPU set. but the APU must be quite expensive D:
What a huge effort to test all this games on this new APU , sad you didnt include God of war PC version , and some emulation with RPCS3 and PCX2 will be apreciated
I swear some people said "why test GOW for pc, no one plays it anyways" 😅
@@Hubwood i can see why
This is Nice, basically they took what worked with the z1 extreme and mass produced it for laptops, that's really cool
The Z1 Extreme is Basically a regular Ryzen 8000 with a 780m.
Could you possibly do a test in Euro Truck Simulator 2? It has a huge community, yet no one does testing in that game. I suspect it could run in 1080p max settings in 60fps easily
Maaaaan that giant APU incoming from AMD is going to be perfect for 1080p/high-ultra or 1440p/medium-high
Interessant. Gibt es da einen Input-lag beim spielen? Ich nehme an dass KI für die Zwischenbildberechnung verwendet wird um solche FPS zu ermöglichen?
Frame Generation erhöht die Latenz tatsächlich etwas, da wird aber wiederum gegengesteuert. Somit ist es vorallem für Single Player Spiele kein Problem!
where did you find the ryzen ai 9 hx 370 model? i'm only finding the 365 model.
Yeah same, I've been looking online as well but it's nowhere to be found!
Hm maybe its only available in some countries yet ..
its really difficult to find, but at least in germany it is availabe but takes a bit of googling
Added the specific model number in the description
Thank you! 1499 EUR, very interesting that this model was released in Germany before the USA
Wowo this chip amazing 😮
iGPUs has come a long way.
nice test
I will wait patiently until they release a Thinkpad T16 with this chip.
I wonder how much the VRAM will be on 24GB RAM.
For this laptop you can actually set it yourself comfortably
Hello. Could you test the performance of the APU with AI software like Topaz or Gigapixel? Thanks for the in-depth video
Im really looking for a productivity-focused laptop that can also play games decently and I think the new Zenbook S16 might be it.
Do you guys think it'll run the new DBZ Sparking Zero just fine?
I think that should work okay, yes
@@Hubwood Thanks for the reply, mate. And thanks for the video as well!!
you can test minecraft consistently by making a minecraft ride of about 2x your render distance and letting the camera be, if you wanna test the CPU you could just time how long a set seed takes to generate or how long it took to generate a certain amount of chunks (get a new world on a set seed and TP to a far away location and time how long it takes before chucks stop generating)
Love your videos, thanks for all the work man! 👏🏻I think what you do is very valuable, while adding a splash of humor here and there :) I also have some brief questions: do you think there is any performance difference between the 890M in this Vivobook S14 and a 890M in laptops that have more breathing room like the the Asus ProArt P13 or P16? Also, do you know of any upcoming Lenovo laptops with the 890M? Those usually perform very well in my experience.
I don't think there will be a noticable difference. The Performance seemed to kinda stall between 45 and 55W. So I'm not expecting more from higher TDPs at this point. Driver updates could help more in the future. NOt knowing of any lenovo laptops with it yet, sorry. 😅
how you get those peer on league ? i get like 120 on 1080p medium
Full performance mode? Plugged in? Vsync off?
If they could get this working in a CPU made for 15-32w, it could be the next big step in PC handhelds. I have a GPD Win4 and even if it does run Cyberpunk, it's not doing amazing either. 720p low with FSR and getting 45-50fps. I feel like this thing could do 720p, medium/high, FSR and get a solid 60fps.
can you test emulation , botw, totk, (dont show the footage but just tell us about the performance)
In general, is the performance bad or just there or good or really good or great or so great
Depends 😂 (But well, as of now it's the worlds fastest iGPU/APU... so...)
@@Hubwood what about the battery. Are you using the s16? What's the battery like please
playing current aaa games smoothly on non gpu laptop was impossible before this vega 890 kind of revolutionary, youll play older aaa games easily maxed like gta5 etc
When reviewing laptop please add opinion on noise in general and performance in quiet mode
Thinking about 16 inch version and internals look the same
So does it no big different with 780m? As i saw in another review in high settings it is equal with 780m
it should also be faster on high settings in almost all cases.
It also depends on the Laptops, the RAM and the TDP Setting though.
I have a video in which I directly compare it to the 780m. So check that one out!
im interesting know equal 890m gpu perfomance to?
GTX 1650 Desktop and Mobile
All the games should be run in 1080p and upscaled to 4k these days.
Brother please may you do a 720p ultra video
Any release driver update from AMD?
How does it compare to the 780m in a 7940hs?
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gpu power is good but what is the over all system/laptop draw from the wall socket when gaming please Hubwood. Yes looking forward to AMD next Gpu review.👍👍
Will add that in the review
In some games the gpu utilization is not at 100% which means a bottleneck probably the 12 cpu cores are draining the energy from the gpu. I have seen benchmarks for the 880m have similar performance to the 890m because it only has 8 cpu cores which means the gpu has more energy to work with.
That happens on lower wattages. Not so much on highest TDP. You can also work around that using process lasso.
Btw for the minecraft java benchmark you should use a optimization modpack like simply optimized. I use it on my mini pc with a 6900hx and 680m graphics, and with 20 chunks + high settings I get around 230 fps at 1440p with it.
Thx for the tip. Takes long to install?
@@Hubwood No, It is easy to install👍
i wonder what kind of fps you could achieve with installing windows 11 ltsc or g lite
Can you try 16GB vs 32GB on some games and also mhz differences?
Don't think these are available with 16GB. Also the tam was soldered on that laptop... So no. I can't 😅😭
@@Hubwood Do you think it is a worthy investment to buy a mini pc with this GPU? I have a 3080 and I think of using it as an external card, but not very sure.
Please test EAFC 25 in your next video. Thanks.
Noted...
iGPUs getting close to legendary GTX 1070 performance
whats the pricing for the laptop? is it the same as last year or more expensive?
1479€ and probably around 1300$. Lots of configurations available...
How are you getting these performances? I bought vivobook s16 with 32gb and have nowhere near this.
The new one with the Ryzen ai 9 HX 370?
@@Hubwood yeah, that one. Only with 32gbs and 16 inch display.
@@doda01 honestly didn't do anything special... Make sure all updates are installed via the myasus app...
@@Hubwood everything is installed, I put the maximum performance. Maybe it is the faulty device, although it works very fast
@@doda01 what are your fire strike and time spy results?
I bought the 680m in the form of a ryzen 7 7735hs a year and a half ago and was astonished with how powerful built in graphics were getting then, and in such a short time it’s already gotten so much better, tech is evolving extremely fast now, alarmingly you could say even
Could you test with Fallout 4 please?
Can you test it with fluid motion frames 2?
AMD is really killing it in low power APUs, Nvidia might be king with discrete GPUs, but AMD APUs are something else in low power.
Came here just I wanted to tell u I just played 3 hours of Witcher 3 with Zenbook S16 2k Medium Balanced FSR 30fps Lock im really really surprised rn
What about Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 for emulation?
It can run of course the know emulators just as good as any modern Desktop high end CPU.
@@Hubwood I meant the iGPU for stuff like PS3, Xbox360, Wii U or Switch
@@LockeLeon these 4 systems will work fine.
I wonder how this performs at 27-30w. If its better than 780m, then we might see a second generation of handeld PCs
Check out my video where I compare it to the 780m
@@Hubwood nice, 20w results are looking good but at 30w the difference is not that big. If it's going to be in a new generation of handhelds the selling point will be efficiency
Is this igpu coming to desktop APUs?
Maybe.
Can you do a video about the gpd win max 2 (2024)
Can you do Destiny 2?
Finally i let my 8700g to my mobo but with my 3070
Next time in Minecraft try shaders and try walking around to get a better idea of 1% Lows. Turning up render distance isn’t really stressing the gpu it’s cpu dependant. So the shaders would stretch the gpu to the limit
Do I have to install them? Have a guide?
Could u compare it against the ultra 7?
Lol the Ultra 7 is simply garbage there is nothing to compare between them. Even the AMD 365 is better.
@@mariussm7797 thats what u say when u just watch one persons benchmarks...I'm about to upload my recording on the same games in some time to start my yt channel. It will be on the galaxy book 4 pro with 40w tdp. Be sure to have a look at it. I'll ping u in the comments when done
Ultra 7 got clapped hard from 365 hx
@@princehariz7859 I saw a video where the 370 scored about 60 fps while the ultra 7 scored 40 fps which is not a huge difference in experience at all. Might be on paper but trust me. The Only differenece is from 30 to 60 and 60 to 90/120. The only thing I liked about the hx 370 was that this performance was at half the power which is amazing. But that 20 fps difference is not a major aspect to make a decision. The reason Im even asking for a comparison is bcos the hx has not released in India and there are no signs of it releasing either. Neither did any of the x elites released in india. Thats why Im planning not to wait and settle with the ultra 7 which is good enough for 99% ppl.
What about noise level ?
Du könntest Minecraft Java mit der Distant Horizons Mod und Iris Shaders ausprobieren.
I really hope someone can compare this laptop with to the Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 / 7i. It's the only slim laptop with preview gen Ryzen 7 8845HS + RTX 3050 6gb. In this way we can see which is the best for gaming since they are on the same category of price.
If gaming is really important you want that Dedicated GPU. Still.
@@Hubwood yes. I don't care about how efficient it is. HX 370 is still overpriced right now.
Nah for integrated gpu it’s crazy 💀
when it is launched in india
I honestly have no idea... Sorry!
Bro, please include fps of these games at high settings too, i would definitely like to see what happens when we play single player games like assassin's creed, cyberpunk etc on high settings on these apu.
Yeah I'd love to test all these games in all of their settings :D But it almost takes me a week to make a video like this already :)
Downloading and installing the games (I can't use external drives for all of them, many have to be freshly installed for every system) getting them to run as intended, fix issues if issues appear, find settings that make sense, benchmarking them, then recording 10-15 minutes of gameplay, after recording them I write the 5 pages of script for the video, then I record myself reading the script, then I edit the final video with choosing scenes, adding FPS and 1% lows, upload it and adjust the UA-cam Details, Keywords, Time Stamps etc. For a Video like that this already takes about 40 (forty!) hours. As I'm doing that BESIDEs having a full time job and family... I just can't do it for every setting. I hope you understand :/
@@Hubwood ok bro, i understand 🫂
@@Hubwood no hurry. Take your time.
More powerful than my Legion Y540 with i7-9750H and GTX 1650 💀
🙈 probably yes
Force the game to use just the first 8 threads
Latency between the CCD with Zen 5 and the CCD with Zen 5c is huge destroying the 1% lows
And Windows love to spread the load between all cores making it worse
By doing this you force the load in one CCD (the good one) and it don't need to wait for the other CCD
I actually did this (Not for this video, but beforehand). It seemed as this would only be the case for when I was using it at 17W or Lower.
For 45W and above there was no difference in AVG or 1% Low FPS.
Looks like it draws a lot of power though.
It doesnt have to. I was just using the highest possible TDP. Can also be run with for example 10, 16, 20, 30, 45W etc. With great performance at lower wattages.
can you test minecraft java with shaders
Do they need to be installed? Is there a guide?
@@Hubwood yes it needs to be installed there are lots of guides the easiest way is to use prism launcher it Will make everything much easier for you
what about far cry 5/6?
They are the far cry versions between far cry 4 and 7. (And also primal and Far cry New Dawn)
@@Hubwood 🗿
@@simulping4371 and beside that they are perfectly playable on this chip 😅
Aw, no rocket league? wanted to compare with lunar lake:)
780M vs 4060 mobile please
Good igpu
Flight simulator cpu/gpu usage is way too low compared to what it should be.
Now try it with 4k, with 30 FPS sweet-spot
Igpu are increasing in performance and also in cost I think. 😅
I totally agree, probably will have to wait till next gen comes out so I can get one on clearance sale.
Yeah, I think we can expect the 40CU Beast everyone is waiting for expect to be quite expensive ;)
@@Hubwood true 40cu is indeed promising
radeon 790 m*
kinda, yeah 😅
i want RDNA 4 instead
And I want a zero emmision humanity 💪
(As in: you can't always get what you want)
with pc you cant keep waiting for another release, buy what best atm you decide to buy, for now 8700g is the best buy that and upgrade next/2 yrs to 990m vega
Imagen that. How toxic does the DotA community have to be so that he doesn't dare to play himself?
Haha I bet it is
But that's not the reason. I don't know how to play Dota 2, so I didn't want to spoil other people's fun/game . 😅 And my gameplay would be horrible to watch 😬