ASUS VIVOBOOK S 14 Review / Ryzen AI 9 HX 370

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  • Опубліковано 18 вер 2024

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  • @Hubwood
    @Hubwood  14 днів тому +7

    UPDATE: I was at an ASUS Praesentation yesterday and they told me, that the SSD is NOT! soldered and can be upgraded. Though they cant guarantee capability of more than 2TB YET (will come with BIOS uprades) But it will probably work anyways... so it's kinda official now ;)

    • @obeliskphaeton
      @obeliskphaeton 12 днів тому

      You mean 2 TB?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  12 днів тому +1

      @@obeliskphaeton classic. Fixed it. Thanks!

  • @Poppingsboi
    @Poppingsboi Місяць тому +8

    This is guy is so good and friendly creator. Why never been recommended before

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      @@Poppingsboi awww thanks 😅

  • @maltebrg
    @maltebrg Місяць тому +7

    i had only one option (denmark), so i have the S14 w/ HX365 (880m) and the 3k 120hz oled. It's awesome

    • @mariopenulli1395
      @mariopenulli1395 Місяць тому

      I wonder how much slower the 880M version is. Could you compare your gaming numbers with one from Hubwood?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +5

      From what I "kno" 880m is almost identical to 780m in performance. Only little improvements performance wise. The CPU itself is of course still great despite it having 2 cores less.

    • @maltebrg
      @maltebrg Місяць тому +1

      I had no options to change hardware, but I don’t really game anymore. Only gonna maybe use for some CAD work. I was sold on the efficiency and therefore battery of these new chips

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +2

      @@maltebrg enjoy mate :)

    • @maltebrg
      @maltebrg Місяць тому +1

      @@mariopenulli1395 I did the 3Dmarks, and my 880m did 200-300 less points in firestrike, 200 less in timespy, but 150 more in steel nomad. Probably has something to do with my 32gb ram

  • @NootNoot.
    @NootNoot. Місяць тому +6

    Great review! This Vivobook seems overall the top choice for Ryzen AI instead of the super thin S16 everyone seems to be reviewing.
    Also battery life on gaming looks really good, you're tips on how to make it last longer is great. I wonder if you could even horde more battery life if lightgaming on 10w already gives you 60fps you could cap it to 30fps and use AFMF2 lol

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      could be possible. Though at 10W not too many fancy games will get you 60 FPS :D
      Some emulation could be doable, and stuff from 2015 or earlier I guess, or Retro Styled Indie games of course...

    • @vncube1
      @vncube1 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Hubwood I don't think a Vivobook user would be ashamed to reduce graphics, resolution and framerate to fit in a 10W TDP. There are still a lot of older and lighter games that require very little power to run.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      @@vncube1 absolutely true ;)

    • @petermoller4610
      @petermoller4610 Місяць тому

      @@NootNoot. I am kind of hoping for a ZenBook S14 with the HX370.

  • @mariussm7797
    @mariussm7797 Місяць тому +11

    Found a review of a gaming laptop with RTX 3050 inside. This Vivobook S14 delivers better gaming results compared to that. Thn Infinix GT Book comes with an i5 12450H & RTX 3050 and is a full gaming laptop, not a slim laptop, and still this Vivobook S14 delivers better gaming results. The only problem I have with this new HX 370 laptops is the fact that they are overpriced af...

    • @Backstage_Politician
      @Backstage_Politician Місяць тому +5

      Compared to a laptop with a 3050 and 12th Gen Intel, it's significantly cheaper

    • @janholecek2692
      @janholecek2692 Місяць тому +1

      If you are ok with slightly lower gaming performance but like this laptop, look for the version with the Ryzen 7 8845HS. It has a slightly lower, but still impressive gaming performance. In my country is the Zen 4 Vivobook like 50% cheaper.

    • @dgillies5420
      @dgillies5420 Місяць тому +2

      Other than a completely locked down unrepairable macbook, this is THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN, a true breakthrough - 2x more energy efficient than 8945hx, faster than Snapdragon with 2x the GPU and equal or a tiny bit BETTER energy efficiency ... Since there is no alternative in the world, you cannot complain about the price, it is what it is ... Have some perspective, please. This is one of the largest laptop CPUs EVER, 200mm+, with 16 CUs, 12 CPUs, and a huge 50 TOPS Neural Accelerator ... Also, OLEDs aren't free ya know ...

    • @mariopenulli1395
      @mariopenulli1395 Місяць тому +3

      For the price of this laptop you can get a Yoga Pro 7 with a 4050 and 32GB Ram.

    • @dgillies5420
      @dgillies5420 Місяць тому +1

      @@mariussm7797 this laptop is aimed at a particular audience that wants an x86 laptop that runs fast for 12 to 14 hours. There really is no alternative; this laptop is unique, so no, its not overpriced until a 2nd similar model is released (currently there is no competition in this space).

  • @monkeydubiera2904
    @monkeydubiera2904 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the review.

  • @Nik10jb
    @Nik10jb Місяць тому +3

    Great review! i was waiting for a review of this product and this is the first that i have seen. I was curious about the CPU's tdp in this model. in Italy on the official asus store it is available only one configuration of this product with the display 1920 x 1200 120Hz, SSD 1TB and RAM 32GB LPDDR5X. And it costs 1499 euros (tax inc).It seems a good product but i don't like the fact that RAM and problably SSD aren't upgradable.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      Yeah actually not 100% sure anymore the ssd beeping soldered applies to all models. Also the one you mentioned... Same CPU or the HX 365? (Has 2x Zen5 cores less, but still pretty powerful)

    • @Nik10jb
      @Nik10jb Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood same CPU, HX 370

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      @@Nik10jb AH nice, thanks for the info. Yeah it just looks like as if the launch just started and not all models are available everywhere... YET!
      About the TDP: As mentioned up to around 55-60 W (On Full-Speed Mode) while that can cause thermal throttling.
      "officially" it's 45W (which is whats used on "performance" Mode)

  • @khai.1
    @khai.1 Місяць тому +1

    Amazing review!, it covered everything I needed but the only sad thing is that it is above my budget😂

    • @jazzydang463
      @jazzydang463 Місяць тому

      it’s on sale at best buy rn, around $200

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      @@jazzydang463 forgot a 1 there? 😅

    • @jazzydang463
      @jazzydang463 Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood i think i was refering to the wrong model 😅😅

  • @Burbanana
    @Burbanana 17 днів тому

    First time watching your content man, love it. Would be great if you did a 'lap' test since a lot of people like me use it on the lap on the go. I have a big question. The Vivobook S 16 and Zenbook S 16 here cost the same at some store (discounted zenbook). I will be using for my own personal dev projects (small scale, running some containers, a web server, code editor and browser tabs / videos). I heard Zenbook is limited to 28W which should probably be enough but it is also more premium. The vivobook seems to have a higher resolution here 3.2K vs 2.8K zenbook. What do you think? Does this one get much hotter on the lap? BTW: MS just backported a Windows 11 24H2 update for AMD to current version which improves gaming a lot for Zen 4/5 on desktop. Very interesting!

  • @talielnussen3867
    @talielnussen3867 Місяць тому +3

    75wh in 14" But still put 78wh in 16inch.
    That is what I don't understand
    But the battery life is really 11hrs on normal use(youtube, edge and chrome, sql and figma, with music playing on speakers?)

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      For the youtube test I was setting the Display to 50%, and used headphones at 20% loudness. That resulted in 11,5 hours, yes.

    • @talielnussen3867
      @talielnussen3867 Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood thanks

    • @hoangtri5776
      @hoangtri5776 2 дні тому

      I have one and it's usually 9 hours, but its probably because mine is 120hz

  • @agrgraphics1590
    @agrgraphics1590 Місяць тому

    Good work mate

  • @bigdan_66
    @bigdan_66 16 днів тому

    Can you run cinebench/geekbench on battery? Be good to see how good the performance is

  • @seyedkamarulkhan2155
    @seyedkamarulkhan2155 17 днів тому

    I watch ur videos playing rdr 2 with that.

  • @LinhHoai-c9k
    @LinhHoai-c9k 23 дні тому

    Thank for the review, but how do you compare physical build quality between it and redmibook/xiaomibook if you have? It also has aluminum cover and "macbook like design".

  • @thirumalr333
    @thirumalr333 13 днів тому

    Crazy cpu and igpu, congratulations amd.

  • @AbbHobby
    @AbbHobby 18 днів тому

    @hubwood
    Thanks for the review. I got a lot of needed information. One question, in Europe I couldn't find this model. There is a Zenbook model with Intel Ultra 7 or 9. This model is not available afaik. Where did you get that price in Euro? Thanks

  • @ritabehera4951
    @ritabehera4951 Місяць тому +2

    Omg 1300$ 😢 that instantly sucked my blood! I thought I would be around 1000$.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      might be. Depends on the Country/Store. Someone said it was around 1000 in the us in some specific config.

  • @vladmihai306
    @vladmihai306 Місяць тому

    please test also the 16 inch version!

  • @DavidVitner
    @DavidVitner 14 днів тому

    Is it faster than a Snapdragon ARM?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  14 днів тому +1

      Depends on the kind of usage but in most cases probably yes

  • @VihangaDananjaya1214
    @VihangaDananjaya1214 Місяць тому

    I wish this had an ips display and upgradable storage

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      Someone claimed it has upgradable storage for them on the comments. According to the Asus support Asus it doesn't. But unfortunately Im Not allowed to open this unit to see for my self

  • @radlink14
    @radlink14 11 днів тому

    I can't find this hx 370 version, it it available in US?

  • @mariopenulli1395
    @mariopenulli1395 Місяць тому

    Nice, I was thinking about getting this laptop, but the price is a bit too steep for a Vivobook.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah its quite "costly"...

    • @SPower-yl9ww
      @SPower-yl9ww Місяць тому

      ​@Hubwood it's $1,000 usd in my region. How much was yours?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      @@SPower-yl9ww 1475€

  • @JamesGadbury
    @JamesGadbury Місяць тому +2

    Have you considered or reviewed the Lenovo Ideapad Pro 5 gen 9 14" AMD with 8845HS + 780M iGPU?
    It has a 2.8k 2880 x 1800p 120hz OLED with HDMI 2.1, slim, all-aluminium body, backlit (but not RGB) keyboard, good connectivity, 84kwh battery and you can configure the build from Lenovo direct to have 32GB soldered gddr5 6400 (unlocked to 7500 with latest BIOS) plus 1TB SSD for around £770. I paid this on their 'Business Store', which anyone can use actually. I'm in the UK but this laptop is also available on European stores but not American stores, I understand.
    It won't have the ultimate performance & efficiency of the Vivobook S14 model in this review as the CPU is now already a 'last gen Zen', but it is still very fast, surprisingly capable for gaming and good value for money. You get perhaps 85-90% of the performance for 55-60% of the cost. It would make an interesting comparison & cheaper alternative.

    • @mariopenulli1395
      @mariopenulli1395 Місяць тому +1

      Thats the price/performance winner if you don't need the latest and greatest APU.

    • @markpeene4757
      @markpeene4757 Місяць тому +1

      I bought that one for around 1000 euro's on sale with my student discount but it is only available in europe and it is quite good actually

    • @fort6564
      @fort6564 Місяць тому

      @@markpeene4757 how is the battery life on that one? Ive been looking at it for school

    • @JamesGadbury
      @JamesGadbury Місяць тому

      @@fort6564 It's very good. Large battery (84kwh) coupled with efficient processor. If you make changes such as lower brightness, switch from 120hz to 60hz (Fn + R to quick toggle) and use lower power settings, it's even better. Basically it's capable of supplying the power when required, yet can be quiet and efficient while still performing well for less demanding tasks. Web browsing, office work and productivity apps run flawlessly and silent.

    • @markpeene4757
      @markpeene4757 Місяць тому

      @@fort6564 its good I get 12 hours with light use like browsing and word at half brightness at 60hz and about 2 hours at high load, like playing a game

  • @LeicaM11
    @LeicaM11 Місяць тому

    I always would expect to get a Thunderbolt port with PD input on each side of a notebook. So one could decide one‘s own best desktop setup. It is really ridiculous: Apple’s M4 shows 3700 in Geekbench 6 single core performance. I also never want to, carry a laptop larger than 14“. The display shows 93% of Never The Same Colour (NTSC)?😂

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 19 днів тому

    Is the 1tb ssd upgradable?

  • @hadeseh6808
    @hadeseh6808 Місяць тому

    Do you think it would handle 3d design programs like solid works for students?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      Yes. Absolutely fine! SOLIDWORKS is very CPU intensive and this CPU is a beast.

  • @princewillchukwujama1199
    @princewillchukwujama1199 29 днів тому

    Hey can you please test the rtx 4060 vs the rx 7700s. Thank you

  • @123Suryasis
    @123Suryasis Місяць тому +1

    Are you sure that the SSD is soldered?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      Not anymore no. The Asus support hotline said it is (I'm not allowed to open this unit unfortunately) but some claimed theirs is not. Might also depend on the specific model...

    • @123Suryasis
      @123Suryasis Місяць тому

      @@HubwoodI can confirm that it has user replaceable SSD.

  • @quagmire321able
    @quagmire321able Місяць тому

    Why USD1.3k? Why possibly soldered SSD? The answer is Asus. It seems they currently have some kind of exclusive with AMD for these processors, so right now we are stuck with buying from them or else.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      The new GPD 4 Pocket will have the Ryzen AI aswell. So other vendors will join aswellm I'm sure. But yeah, you're right. Right now only ASUS...

  • @dewzahundred
    @dewzahundred Місяць тому

    i want this.

  • @nathandsouza7104
    @nathandsouza7104 Місяць тому

    Whats better a 4050 or 4060? Also does the wattage matter on the 4050? My main use case is gaming and cad

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      4060 is better. Faster an bigger ram.
      Wattage matters untill 100w. Above that you won't get more performance.

    • @markpeene4757
      @markpeene4757 Місяць тому

      Depends on wattage a 95 watt 4050 has more performance than a 50 watt 4060 unless you need the 8gb of vram you can check what wattage the graphics card uses in a review

  • @Thomas-rr9ds
    @Thomas-rr9ds Місяць тому

    hello. I have a quick question if you don’t mind. I recently purchase that new laptop and performed a clean install of Windows. I’m trying to avoid installing ASUS’s bloatware as much as possible. Is it possible to adjust the power limit of the APU directly through the BIOS or Windows settings, or am I required to install MyASUS to control those four power/fans modes? I’m aware of G Helper, but I’d prefer to use an AMD utility instead.
    The reason I’m asking is that switching to performance mode in the Windows settings doesn’t seem to improve FPS significantly. For example, I’m only getting around 200 FPS in Valorant, and I’m experiencing severe FPS drops while gaming. I suspect the issue might be overheating since I haven’t adjusted the fan curve using the MyASUS app’s power/fan profile.
    Thanks in advance for any help!

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      No. Install the myasus app...

    • @Thomas-rr9ds
      @Thomas-rr9ds Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood alright, I think I'll build a more windows 11 looking one with only the settings that I'm interested in ... one last question, do you have any white and bright screen flashes ? I can't isolate yet when this happen, but I do have some white line sometimes when I do scrolling in certain app such as the settings ... I'm amazed on how unreliable this machine is ...

  • @proautoscan
    @proautoscan Місяць тому

    it looks impressive but ain't exactly cheap, for gaming there is also the new TUF A14 ,with the same CPU, maybe you will check that one out if you can.

  • @sametyldz1953
    @sametyldz1953 Місяць тому

    could you compare it with snapdragon asus vivobook?

  • @longdoo1
    @longdoo1 Місяць тому

    Please try 4k game with low setting

  • @morten1
    @morten1 Місяць тому

    Does it get so hot in the back even in balanced/silent mode?

  • @renstillmann
    @renstillmann Місяць тому

    What about ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 GA605 with the same CPU but also a 4070 dGPU? That way you can have both a power efficient system and a powerful gaming system? Or am I wrong?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      Basically yes. Don't know about that laptops battery runtime though.

  • @seyedkamarulkhan2155
    @seyedkamarulkhan2155 17 днів тому

    Bro I got Intel core i5 1135g7 iris xe graphics
    Whenever I play rdr 2 it started to crash after 10mins of the game play every time.
    Will u help me to sort this out
    Help me bro

  • @keerthan7558
    @keerthan7558 Місяць тому

    The llegends on the keys would be hard to see with backlight on , i don't get why asus still does it like that

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      That's actually true in some scenarios...

  • @Cleisthenes607
    @Cleisthenes607 Місяць тому

    It's really annoying how these vivobooks with the new AMD chips are in the US, China and even Eurrope yet in the UK apparently we are too poor to be given these options. It's really annoying.

  • @dreistheman7797
    @dreistheman7797 24 дні тому

    Is there a 16” of this??

  • @bokuwatobi766
    @bokuwatobi766 Місяць тому

    Is there a europe link for this product, I can not find it.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      Does this work for you? www.ebay.de/itm/126612990314?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=20006&mkrid=707-53477-19255-0&campid=5337412747&customid=ZmFlYmM4NzU2OWI0OTYyZQ

    • @bokuwatobi766
      @bokuwatobi766 Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood thank you very much, I have also found links for germany, but could not find the configuration with 120hz do you got any links for this?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      @@bokuwatobi766 not yet available (in Germany).

  • @iikatinggangsengii2471
    @iikatinggangsengii2471 Місяць тому

    55w 890m interesting

  • @Dr.D00p
    @Dr.D00p Місяць тому +32

    Sorry, I cannot and will not forgive it that 60Hz screen. What the hell were they thinking? They are going to lose so many sales because of that absurd decision.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +27

      As mentioned in the video, there are other options available aswell. They also have a 120Hz one.
      Though if Gaming is not the main concern 60hz are fine. Also considering that in most games you won't get more than 60 fps or could use VSYNC. I don't think it's that drastically in that kind of laptop...

    • @Backstage_Politician
      @Backstage_Politician Місяць тому +3

      The only reason why you'd need a higher hz monitor is for gaming and frame time. There are other things people do with the computer.

    • @true7563
      @true7563 Місяць тому +12

      @@Backstage_Politicianna, higher refresh rate makes the entire user experience more pleasent, not only games.

    • @ricarmig
      @ricarmig Місяць тому +2

      The same here: my handheld legion go has a 144 hz 1600p screen, Z1 Extreme and costs about the half. In 2024 it should be at least 120 Hz and real 400 nits .

    • @ricarmig
      @ricarmig Місяць тому +2

      @@HubwoodI cannot agree. Just surfing the web or using windows, 60 vs 120 hz is a massive difference. There is no big difference with using office, but no one needs this chip and 24 GB of RAM for that…

  • @necrobot2262
    @necrobot2262 Місяць тому

    The SSD is soldered as well?????? Goodbye asus. Man, what a stupid decision!

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      To be fair I'm not 100 sure anymore. I wasn't allowed to open this unit. But the Asus technical support at the phone said it is. But other comments here state that it might be NOT soldered.

  • @dgillies5420
    @dgillies5420 Місяць тому +1

    You are one of the very few UA-camrs to understand the breakthrough of the HX 370 GPU (RDNA 3.5 with all the power saving improvements from RDNA 4). The soldered ssd is a total tragedy on this laptop! The speed and energy efficiency ... Well there is nothing other than the apple walled prison that can touch it!

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      Someone stated that his Vivobook s14 had a upgradable SSD. Might actually be different depending on the models. Asus support stated the one I tested is soldered though... So ... 🙄

  • @petermoller4610
    @petermoller4610 Місяць тому

    What? soldered SSD? that is a windows first.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      I'm not sure anymore. The Asus support said it's soldered. People mentioned that at least some versions do not have that soldered SSD. That would not speak for the Asus support though...
      (I was NOT allowed to open it up. Unfortunately)

    • @petermoller4610
      @petermoller4610 Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood I found the spec sheet. For SSD they write: 1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 SSD, this should be some M.2 standard.

  • @dgillies5420
    @dgillies5420 Місяць тому

    Please mke a video on how to configure this laptop for 4-5hr of gaming, and please measure the runtimes of ~4 (probably esports) games to show us. Thanks!

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      Use the Universal x86 tuning utility to set all 3 TDPs to 10W. I also di set the boost times to the minimum amount. So it will be applied immediately. Don't forget to activate the check boxes for each TDP and boost time. Then apply the setting
      Then also use process lasso to limit the cores for the task of a game after you run it. Might need to play around a bit concerning the cores you need to allocate to the game.

    • @dgillies5420
      @dgillies5420 29 днів тому

      @@Hubwood i ordered an hx365 S16 today and may be trying out your ideas on friday. Your video ALMOST convinced me to get this vivobook but i need the 16" screen for programming and ive never had a touch screen and wanted to try one ... A lot of people think they have to run the S16 on "performance" or worse, "max fans" because maybe they're idiots who always bought intel but i have no illusions about the bad cooling on the S16.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  29 днів тому +1

      @@dgillies5420 enjoy and let us know how the 10W mode worked for you :)

  • @OteimPrincewill
    @OteimPrincewill Місяць тому +2

    Soldered SSD? Lol that sucks

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      Someone claimed it has upgradable storage for them on the comments. According to the Asus support Asus it doesn't. But unfortunately Im Not allowed to open this unit to see for my self

  • @PKperformanceEU
    @PKperformanceEU Місяць тому +2

    M3pro can idle at 0.1w so 3watt is absolutely not impressive

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +2

      Well... At this point I wouldn't use an apple product even if I was paid for using it :p
      But yeah, the m chips are another level. But for a windows laptop it is great.

    • @PKperformanceEU
      @PKperformanceEU Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood my 13700H laptop can idle at 1.6-2w altough the windows iso i installed is barebone and no defender no bloatware garbage.
      Stock idle was 5-6w.
      Still i was expecting at least a 2w idle from amd out of the box

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому

      @@PKperformanceEU can you post a picture of your laptop idling at 1,6-2W?

    • @PKperformanceEU
      @PKperformanceEU Місяць тому

      @@Hubwood I uploaded it to my videos.
      Obviously you get worse efficiency once you need power.
      I get 19 500 on r23 and 34 500 on passmark. With 4250 single thread passmark.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  Місяць тому +1

      @@PKperformanceEU hey thanks for uploading. Did you check the average total system draw via HW Info? The 2w is the CPU
      But the laptop uses power as well. (My 3w was refering to the whole system, also consider that software readings aren't always 100% correct) You'd have to measure the total runtime on idle to find the ACTUAL total system draw