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  • @jctoxicwarriors9577
    @jctoxicwarriors9577 4 роки тому +7

    That's pretty cool. My dad did this 30 years ago when I was 10. He used a 2stroke engine because the gearbox is sealed from the engine. On 2 strokes the engine is lubricated through the oil that is mixed with the gas. Made it a lot easier. I believe it was a Honda CR80 that he used.

  • @akumabito2008
    @akumabito2008 7 років тому +1

    So glad i found this vid! I had the same idea about 2 years ago, but I never quite figured out how to proceed. I have a seized 110cc pit bike engine that I want to turn into just a transmission to couple it with an 1950s stationary engine. Good to see it's actually possible and not incredibly complicated.

  • @craigmonteforte1478
    @craigmonteforte1478 5 років тому +3

    The final design came out looking much better than i thought. It would

  • @HarmsWay500
    @HarmsWay500 6 років тому +2

    I have had this same idea for years now! You did a great job! Thank you for sharing your hard work!

    • @gavinmcvey8177
      @gavinmcvey8177 4 роки тому

      Jawa tino on you tube done it years ago

  • @donnyjohnson2017
    @donnyjohnson2017 6 років тому +3

    I've been wanting to do the same thing for a long time. For a race mower. Yours looks legit. Good job

  • @andrewstamberger9304
    @andrewstamberger9304 6 років тому +7

    Wow great job!! Whoever machined this did a pretty damn good job.😁

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 2 роки тому +1

    You could tap the oil supply that went to the top end, and supply oil to a engine being used, like Briggs, or Honda clone, it would just need a drain back, basically using the atv engine as a oil pan and pump/sump for the engine, haha kinda crazy 🤣👍

  • @artd.
    @artd. 5 років тому +1

    good job, glad you retained the oil pump as it is used to lubricate the crank bearings.

  • @tazyt3388
    @tazyt3388 5 років тому +1

    Just did this for a buggy project very easy to do and cheap to find junked ones thanks for the idea cheers

  • @KIDZKARTBLDER
    @KIDZKARTBLDER 8 років тому +3

    This is genius !!! I've been looking for a transmission for my gulf cart swap from elec to gas !!!! You have solved my issue !! Nice

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  8 років тому

      +Herbert Humphrey Thanks for like, I plan to put mine on a Rhino frame with a harbor engine.

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner 8 років тому +2

      +Herbert Humphrey , I hope U post your golf cart project... Looking forward to the videos...

  • @sup3rbird
    @sup3rbird 7 років тому +18

    You kept stuff you don't need. The gearbox has no plain bearings and is splash fed. You don't need oil pressure so you don't need the oil pump. The oil was originally pressurised to force it up to the cylinder head which you don't have anymore. I did this mod on a small Honda engine about 30 years ago and it worked perfectly.

    • @adamfellows4346
      @adamfellows4346 5 років тому

      You need oil preshre for cluch

    • @tristan6509
      @tristan6509 3 роки тому

      well it depends, if you're using it in a gokart and the gokart already has a centrifugal clutch then you can do away with the oil pump, otherwise you still need it because the clutch needs cooling.

  • @adamdorris4081
    @adamdorris4081 5 років тому

    Been looking for a very compact; 3, 4, or 5 speed parallel gearbox for my 66cc bicycle. Something that'll take some abuse. What I was thinking was using an isolated/ stand alone gearbox cut from a little 50-80cc dirt bike case. You're video is proof that it's possible. Thanks man!

  • @tazyt3388
    @tazyt3388 5 років тому +2

    Hey mate got it fitted up to buggy project works really well very happy with it thanks for the inspiration cheers

  • @brianrhubbard
    @brianrhubbard 7 років тому +22

    Do you ever plan to sell these covers and shaft?

  • @Wallie2004
    @Wallie2004 8 років тому

    Very nice. It's nice to see people take pride when making something

  • @raymondchatelain491
    @raymondchatelain491 4 роки тому +8

    do you sell some ? i am very interested in your project

  • @TufdogsPlace
    @TufdogsPlace 7 років тому

    Nicely done ! T-man sent me over to have a look. I've thought of doing this but you're the 1st I've seen actually do it... Nice ! Kudos for giving it to him...

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  7 років тому +2

      Thanks! Hope he puts it on something. The full screen machine would be cool.

  • @Baldys_projects
    @Baldys_projects 4 роки тому +3

    Great work! I seen the video of the other guy buying one similar to this you made or the same one as this off of you or you gave to him not sure he didn't really say LOL but anyhow I just converted a 4-speed pit bike 125cc engine into a transmission/gearbox that will be mated up with a 16 HP v-twin Cub cadet side shaft engine with the governor bypassed and with pipes and head porting it should be pushing a good 25HP, just working on getting a motorcycle frame or custom making one at the moment.

    • @diciplezane77zane57
      @diciplezane77zane57 4 роки тому

      how can i find a engine to actually do it with? i was trying to fine a engine with manly the transmission left but i cant..
      EDIT: nvm i found a engine i could use "ZXTDR 125cc Engine 4-Stroke Motor Semi-Auto 3 Forward 1 Reverse Gear for ATV 4 Wheelers Tricycle" on amazon

    • @Baldys_projects
      @Baldys_projects 4 роки тому +1

      @@diciplezane77zane57 just find used 4 speed pit bike engine because they are usually pretty cheap if the top end is blowed up or not running then you just cut the rod and flip it inside the crank webs than weld it and then grind off some of the counterweights to balance it.

  • @kiandawsonamador3041
    @kiandawsonamador3041 3 роки тому

    Thank you brilliant intellectual! It reminds me of a lawn mower gearbox

  • @Chris-yy7qc
    @Chris-yy7qc 6 років тому +11

    9:10 The "harmonic dampener" is infact a centrifugal oil filter

  • @bbracing3925
    @bbracing3925 3 роки тому

    You can also just cut the rod at the base near the crank bearing and do a static balance test and make adjustments for harmonic symmetry with the crank counter weights.

  • @blakechurch8062
    @blakechurch8062 8 років тому

    i love this idea ive been looking for a manual transmission for a gokart or drift trike that i can attach to a harbor freight motor and this idea is freaking perfect because you can find plenty broken dirtbike engines on craigslist

  • @coburnlowman
    @coburnlowman 6 років тому

    I had been wandering about this for a good while. Now I know it'll work. Thanks.

  • @clintonstock6059
    @clintonstock6059 7 років тому +5

    I need this in my life

  • @MONSTERXC70
    @MONSTERXC70 Рік тому

    I've been searching for this!!!! Just saw it on T-MANS GO CARTS!!!

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  Рік тому +1

      Sweet. Hope he's doing something with it. Been waiting long time lol

    • @MONSTERXC70
      @MONSTERXC70 Рік тому

      @@williamstaten8102 the video I watched he was unboxing it.

  • @codycheney3401
    @codycheney3401 6 років тому

    That is awesome ..... I have been wanting to do that for my up coming project. I am going to make a 4 searer side by side so I need a reverse in it !

  • @blickmoto
    @blickmoto 3 роки тому

    I'm currently trying this with a CRF50 engine. Cant wait!

  • @thatbuelldude189
    @thatbuelldude189 7 років тому +16

    this i want for my minibike

  • @420DonMEGA420
    @420DonMEGA420 7 років тому +4

    Amazing conversion!
    I saw this on T-Mans channel and can't wait to see it in action.
    Do you have any production plans, I'd love to get one of these?

  • @andrewthefarmer7671
    @andrewthefarmer7671 6 років тому +3

    Why not use the clutch in the gear box?

  • @patrickbaitman8336
    @patrickbaitman8336 5 років тому +1

    You could have made a bearing housing to help with the lateral load and welded it where you welded that seal ring.

  • @honeybadgeractual5734
    @honeybadgeractual5734 2 роки тому +1

    lets see some updates on this bad boy.

  • @idfk223
    @idfk223 Рік тому

    Why don't they just make stand alone transmissions like this? People build small engines like Predator 212s and put them on go karts. I think they'd sell.

  • @McCuneWindandSolar
    @McCuneWindandSolar 6 років тому +1

    this would be great for building a go cart.

  • @faheemlhr
    @faheemlhr 3 роки тому

    Good job dear but try to remove the gear shifter, kick starter but not gear shifter it’s should be constant speed

  • @19882fast4u
    @19882fast4u 7 років тому +2

    Why not just leave the engine basically complete with the Head, (now the gearbox)? Just remove the stator or balancer, came shaft, and cam gear, the valves, and spring(s) assembly. Leave the crank and piston in. Drill two small, (about 3/8") holes through the top to the bottom of the piston, (so no compression can build up). Remove the ceramic portion of the spark plug. Drill through the plug 3/8", removing the spark tip and allowing air to pass by. Wield a 3/8" extension tube to the top of the spark plug where the ceramic used to be. The longer the better. Add a mini Honda civic crankcase/rocker box filter to the end of the 3/8 tube. Finally, make two 1/4" plate covers for the intake and exhaust ports on the outside of the engine, and seal with gasket lube. Now you have a gearbox engine with no machining. I think the engine would still build pressure for oil, as long as it is a mechanical oil pump, and the top end would not need oil pressure, due to the removed cam assembly.

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  7 років тому +4

      It would be off balance, have a lot of drag moving a dead piston and take up a lot of space..

  • @honeybadgeractual5734
    @honeybadgeractual5734 2 роки тому

    Id love to see you add a predator to the top of it and put a belt style torque converter between the motor and transmission. Then it acts sorta like a car transmission.

  • @eyeballengineering7007
    @eyeballengineering7007 7 років тому

    I'd cut the front half off and just use the clutch input shaft and ditch the clutch. Chain drive input on the clutch shaft, seal the trans off and go. Good idea though

  • @trevormallow2788
    @trevormallow2788 6 років тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant

  • @isaacnichols12
    @isaacnichols12 4 роки тому

    Should have cut the cam and chain closer off of the case and moved your input sprocket closer to the crank case. It would make it bullet proof but great work.

  • @MrSpot41
    @MrSpot41 4 роки тому

    Thanks man, very helpful video to me. Great info.

  • @Alexhuntzinger
    @Alexhuntzinger 7 років тому

    you did what I have been wanting to do for a long time I just don't have access to a lathe

  • @brianbloom1799
    @brianbloom1799 Рік тому

    Hi I would Like to know how did this Transmission work out, Did it Shift on the fly, Or did you have to pull the clutch.I,m building 1 right now 6 speed, for a scooter 180cc, Custom frame, for my Grandson, Let me know how you did Thanks Brian

  • @bradleytaylor3500
    @bradleytaylor3500 3 роки тому +1

    Have you thought about selling these. I'm sure people would pay a pretty penny for them

  • @williamstaten8102
    @williamstaten8102  6 років тому +5

    I keep seeing this comment over and over that I made it harder to make by making a new shaft. If you tried to use the crank
    it would be so off balance it would rattle apart the transmission
    itself and the kart it was on.

    • @nickelsonmolina9202
      @nickelsonmolina9202 6 років тому

      william staten
      Hi William...you plan to sell it and what is cost...is this work for a polaris rzr with yamaha r1 motor to have reverse?

    • @apollo9047
      @apollo9047 5 років тому +2

      Would it be possible to counterweight the counterweight?
      Like add weight to the shaft?
      Or maybe cut the rod flush
      And grind some weight off the counterweight...

    • @thelongranger55
      @thelongranger55 4 роки тому

      william staten what are you plans with his transmission, and yes ur right about vibration destroying it

    • @DrLove911
      @DrLove911 4 роки тому +1

      What if you left the piston and jug on it ? And removed the head and replaced it with a metal plate with a hose fitting on top. Then use a chain from your engine and set it up to where your engine piston is top dead center when your transmission piston is all the way down. Use the piston for a air pump .. pretty much like a super charger . Blow thru your carb with it? Could it work?

    • @thelongranger55
      @thelongranger55 4 роки тому

      Big Ern honestly no . It’s not a constant flow of air , the air needs to flow constantly like turbos and superchargers

  • @thegit8698
    @thegit8698 6 років тому

    Thats a pretty good idea, very clever.

  • @dsheffield2010
    @dsheffield2010 6 років тому +7

    At #CarsandCameras this would be nice for the Subaru yerfdog

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  6 років тому +5

      I've tried to give the stuff in the past, some new carbs. They dont respond, even private message and email.

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  6 років тому +2

      Its a shame to, don't think tman is going to do anything with it.

    • @dsheffield2010
      @dsheffield2010 6 років тому +5

      Well man respect for trying. Some people on youtube just don't care about us subscribers. Keep it up

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 6 років тому

      *CarsandCameras*

    • @michaelmcginnis9029
      @michaelmcginnis9029 6 років тому

      william staten. I have a donor and need this done what would you charge me to build it its a 140 or 150 cc i need it done badly for my kids go cart. Im even gona upload the build.

  • @cobbleup
    @cobbleup 2 роки тому

    It would be interesting to remove the connecting rod and spin the original crankshaft in your lathe at high rpms to see if it would be balanced enough to use it as is ???

  • @tommy23490
    @tommy23490 7 років тому

    Pretty damn crafty man...

  • @Tmansgokarts
    @Tmansgokarts 7 років тому +5

    Hey William, I was wondering if that " sending unit" that indicates what gear your in would still work on this?

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  7 років тому

      T-Mans Go Karts it's missing a spring and a brass nipple. and a new unit because your wires are cut

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  7 років тому

      T-Mans Go Karts I'll look this weekend and see if I got the parts

    • @Tmansgokarts
      @Tmansgokarts 7 років тому

      Ok, no rush. I'm thinking of building a two seater that this will go in. But if the kids and my wife are going to be driving it they might like the idea of an indicator. But Its not a must have.

    • @michaelmcginnis9029
      @michaelmcginnis9029 6 років тому

      Im building the same set up thanks its awesome

    • @axelsol89
      @axelsol89 6 років тому +1

      Have you tried it on anything and do you think it'll make much noise? I might make one to go behind a v twin vanguard so I have a strong manual gearbox with reverse on my 3/4 scale hot rod I'm building it looks awesome though well done mate

  • @SavxgeX420
    @SavxgeX420 Рік тому

    Great idea. I like it. How well did it work

  • @honeybadgeractual5734
    @honeybadgeractual5734 2 роки тому

    I know this is an old video but I am very interested in building a torque converter/gearbox hybrid engine using a predator, belt torque converter, and bottom end from my Zhongshan 250cc 5 spd engine.

  • @Swizzledaman
    @Swizzledaman 7 років тому +1

    if you have anymore or want to build another one I would be interested in buying one.

  • @ajohn7215
    @ajohn7215 6 років тому +2

    The gear on your output shaft will prematurely wear out because you welded on it, thus compromising the case hardening. Maybe you should have pressed the output shaft and the flywheel shaft out of the crankshaft lobes and then just machine a sleeve to go between the two shafts in place of your crank lobes and then just press it back together. This way you will still have your spline and you wont have to weld anything. Good luck!

  • @MAD450r2
    @MAD450r2 6 років тому

    Great work man.

  • @beaucottington
    @beaucottington Рік тому

    any other videos on this build?

  • @chrisnixon2179
    @chrisnixon2179 7 років тому +4

    sweet. how many horsepower do you think it would handle?

  • @ericlarreau5498
    @ericlarreau5498 7 років тому

    WHOA!!! I've got a little Chinese quad for parts that would lend this PERFECTLY to my crusty mini-bike!!!
    did you mention which model engine you used???

  • @michaelthomas788
    @michaelthomas788 2 роки тому

    I don't think you should weld that shaft together because it's going to change the hardness of the gear is it not and the hardness of the shaft will it not soft in the middle therefore as soon as you test drive it the first time it'll wipe itself completely out I would just use the stock crank press it apart cut it and a new rod pin and a spacer to keep it from pressing completely together

  • @fidelishartoko5106
    @fidelishartoko5106 3 роки тому

    thx man....., very usefull

  • @charliericker3124
    @charliericker3124 2 роки тому

    Have you used this in a project yet? Very curious, I love the idea.

  • @big_ranger9243
    @big_ranger9243 5 років тому +1

    is there a way to get plans for this build and would a 200cc honda atc engine work the same as the other

    • @firemanjim324
      @firemanjim324 4 роки тому

      Pretty much the same process ....😉

  • @theoverlanderutv2747
    @theoverlanderutv2747 7 років тому

    Subbed and liked!! This is brilliant!

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  7 років тому +1

      Thanks

    • @juliolausell4399
      @juliolausell4399 7 років тому

      I wanted to do this when I was 12, my go-kart friends laughed at me. I didn't know how to do it, but I knew it could be done. Nice work, came out great. I would like it if you checked out my crazy homemade go-kart, made from some scraps, and some new parts. It has two engines, one has a 3 speed transmission, the other is just a Predator 212 manual belt clutch. Both engines work at the same time. ( Homemade two engine Go-kart ) P.S. I don't know how to do links, sorry.

  • @jasonouellette205
    @jasonouellette205 7 років тому

    that is awesome and brilliant. great job

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 7 років тому

      Jason Ouellette
      Yup mind blown, what a great idea 💡, to me this is what the internet is for , sharing ideas...
      I bet there's 1000s of people who threw out a project from lack of a gearbox.

  • @dmhent.garage4454
    @dmhent.garage4454 8 років тому +1

    I have 5 of these motor wish I had you skills

  • @OdinX316
    @OdinX316 6 років тому

    Really a good idea and job!!

  • @dws8364
    @dws8364 6 років тому

    Nice job. Great idea.

  • @HarveySpooner
    @HarveySpooner 8 років тому

    Bill, Works good, it even looks right... Maybe for some of the looser trx200sx engines that can become transmissions. I think it was a good idea to replace the main shaft rather then cut and weld it... BTW, the shaft was made at the "home products division"? Well done, my friend!

  • @tobiedickinson141
    @tobiedickinson141 4 роки тому

    Great Job..!!!! old Harley gearbox’s were made really similar.you could use pretty much any atv bottomend with reverse.the only trouble I’d have is turning Down the shaft . I don’t have a lathe..if made a longer shaft on the other end to put another Sproket on it you could have 4wd . Or Maybe use 2 gear boxes..

  • @optiman36
    @optiman36 5 років тому

    Well done brother

  • @mackenziematthews3488
    @mackenziematthews3488 6 років тому +3

    What would u charge to build another one I'll send the cash in the mail and wat ever else u need

  • @pooky24197
    @pooky24197 8 років тому

    Very cool I thought of doing this would be cool in a go kart!

    • @pooky24197
      @pooky24197 8 років тому

      Also the powering engine might not need a clutch if you use the one on the engine

  • @JoseManuel-lj4dk
    @JoseManuel-lj4dk 4 роки тому

    I have the same project going on but I'm using a bayou 220.

  • @jameilsanders1492
    @jameilsanders1492 Рік тому

    Are you still building these? And if so how much are they?

  • @peewee7405
    @peewee7405 5 років тому

    Good job but instead of doing all of this work just get a Polaris four wheeler transmission they are a separate unit from the engine and have a CVT clutch setup.

  • @pappysgarage6515
    @pappysgarage6515 7 років тому +1

    where did you make the new crank at, I don't have a lathe and I really want to do this to an old engine I have

    • @eyeballengineering7007
      @eyeballengineering7007 7 років тому +1

      cut the front half the engine off, plug the oil holes and just use the clutch input shaft without a clutch

  • @michaelmichaletz5726
    @michaelmichaletz5726 6 років тому

    Awesome job!!!!!!!!

  • @albertmichall5732
    @albertmichall5732 2 роки тому +1

    First you measure , then machine , then weld , I think you could become an engineer with your skills ...

  • @bradleytaylor3500
    @bradleytaylor3500 7 років тому +6

    just wondering if you be willing to make another one and sell it?

    • @williamstaten8102
      @williamstaten8102  7 років тому +2

      Bradley Taylor probably not. I gave this one to t-man and it was $100 to ship it. Just wouldn't be and profet

    • @bradleytaylor3500
      @bradleytaylor3500 7 років тому

      william staten why so much for shipping?

    • @staudtc91
      @staudtc91 6 років тому

      Idk... Looks like you might have a following here because of this thing

    • @justinhadokowitz7418
      @justinhadokowitz7418 6 років тому

      I’d for sure pay for one!!!

    • @danielwiggins2036
      @danielwiggins2036 3 роки тому

      @@williamstaten8102 please im begging you to please sell me the shaft and covers ill make gaskets whatever the case 8435047488

  • @fahb68
    @fahb68 7 років тому

    grat conversion man....!

  • @poco1990
    @poco1990 5 років тому

    Check out William Stanton channel,where he converts a 200cc engine into a four fwd. with rev. Trans. It’s pretty awesome and compact.😊😊😊

  • @danielwiggins2036
    @danielwiggins2036 3 роки тому

    Whats the part# for the shaft and covers or where can I buy this?

  • @franksavignac2788
    @franksavignac2788 3 роки тому

    If we send you the motor.. will you do it for us and what would be the price. I have a Suzuki LT300 engine that the transmission is indestructible :)

  • @gimmel11
    @gimmel11 6 років тому

    Do you have any measurements on the shaft you made? I have a machine shop that can make this for me.

  • @vaioskaliakoudas6388
    @vaioskaliakoudas6388 6 років тому +1

    Could this how-to be used to turn a motorcycle engine into a stand-alone transaxle????

    • @southerngamer3146
      @southerngamer3146 3 роки тому +1

      More than likely you could do something very similar. Just remember you won't have reverse though

  • @josephleister9198
    @josephleister9198 6 років тому

    Nice work...

  • @michaelpaese9834
    @michaelpaese9834 5 років тому

    If you were to make this happen I know I will definitely invest in one, my friend wants to put a 420 on his warrior and a transmission if he can find one

  • @douglasaston4282
    @douglasaston4282 4 роки тому

    How can I get one of these i wanted to make motorized bicycle with gears but couldn't find good transmission ideas

  • @darriuslester9163
    @darriuslester9163 7 років тому

    how much for one exactly a like or similar to? and are you located in Canada or US?

  • @adamdennis5617
    @adamdennis5617 6 років тому

    U ever finishes it. . Wanted to see the rest

  • @tristenoberlender9685
    @tristenoberlender9685 4 роки тому

    What is the model of the four wheeler used

  • @idontgivearadsass
    @idontgivearadsass 4 роки тому

    A Tuk tuk shift would work

  • @hschwerin
    @hschwerin 6 років тому

    If it were me I would make a 2 piece clap on counter weight cut the rod off and clamp it on and static balance it

  • @ivancruzluque2795
    @ivancruzluque2795 3 роки тому

    Exelente sirve para muchos usos

  • @dejo1976
    @dejo1976 6 років тому

    Cool video

  • @gzell225
    @gzell225 7 років тому

    What would u charge to build one?

  • @REDCLAYHOMESTEAD
    @REDCLAYHOMESTEAD 6 років тому

    Just wondering why you could not just use the crankshaft as it was minus the piston arm. I just dont understand but this seems like it could be used for all sorts on neat tom fooliery

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 6 років тому +1

      REDCLAY HOMESTEAD
      The counterweights on the crank would rattle your teeth out.

    • @REDCLAYHOMESTEAD
      @REDCLAYHOMESTEAD 6 років тому

      I figured it had something to do with vibrations of throwing thing off balanced. Thanks

  • @secondchancegarage
    @secondchancegarage 2 роки тому

    Did you ever install this on anything?

  • @saadantabusafwan9787
    @saadantabusafwan9787 4 роки тому

    Good job, please how could I mount the reverse gear during the gears assembly? help me out please.

    • @gavinmcvey8177
      @gavinmcvey8177 4 роки тому +1

      Watch jawa tino on you tube he done it years ago plus you can see it running on a bike in his videos

    • @saadantabusafwan9787
      @saadantabusafwan9787 4 роки тому

      @@gavinmcvey8177 ok

  • @jrewing8012
    @jrewing8012 6 років тому +1

    Damn man nice job!