Yeah, before she couldn't use black grail like she did in the story. Now? With black grail? If they give her charisma a really, really good buff it's approaching Melusine levels of stupid if it isn't there already since the mana burst carries over between turns.
Same here. I thought Lasagna will just copy paste the upgraded Mana Burst skill of OG Saber and also copy paste the same Charisma skill of Morgan for her to have 50% NP charge from skills alone. But this buff is mind boggling.
@VitchAndVorty in original tier list she was at the same tier as Saber Lily. When I started playing your statement was true, I got her from free SR ticket and used her constantly, but nowadays she really did fall behind other sabers. True, she has extraordinarily good basics in form of her attack stat and her NP multiplier, but that was impressive a few years ago, nowadays without good skills unit is just glorified beat stick and nothing more (she still has charisma rank E). And she doesn't have ST damage modifier on her NP. Arash does. Her is obviously higher but still not as high as ST.
So they made her into a servant with Buster card damage but arts card np gain I wish we got buffs HALF this good for other servants... The power of seibah privilege is true
NP1 Salter w/ Black Grail is 384k neutral which beats out 350k Rising Mud Mordred and 344k Rising Mud Artoria If Ibuki just gets a basic NP upgrade she's 329k with Cranking. NP5 Salter w/ Black Grail is 555k which is nearly the same as NP4 Ibuki Douji hitting undead and stronger than NP1 Siegfried hitting Dragons. Level NP1 Salter to 100 and she hits as hard as NP1 Godjuna against Neutral.
@@xenoemblem7I don’t mind him being weaker but at least make him being able to take advantage Double Koyan and Oberon setup. He can’t even do that, and apparently the other gold saber that’s going to receive a rank up is another SR, so him getting a buff this anniversary is out of the window. All i can hope is now that Prototypes Fragments gets a campaign since that series just got a manga and maybe he’ll get something from there
@@gee_kazArthur I think for his S3 skill to get buffed to add 30% charge like for me I think it needs to be party attack and modifier against giants for three turns. His NP adds damage against Threat to Humanity upgrade his np damage to 30% and of course Artoria and Mordred it charges Arthur np for 20 %
Myst: “you might have Better dps under your belt, but it’s gonna take more than that to impress m-“ Salter: “ buster loops with a qp ce” Slow motion myst “OHHHHH”
such a good buff, not only making her better than the ssrs but also not devaluing the ssrs. Such an interesting concept and i LOVE it. One of the best buffs i have ever seen, making her top tier but also keeping her from being broken with the enemy numbers.
Dude this 100% devalues the aoe saber SSRs. Why would you ever run Artoria or Mordred over Alter? She can BG loop 2/2/x with higher damage numbers than her SSR counterparts. The only reason to ever run another AOE saber over her is if we are dealing with single target waves, but at that point why not just use a single target saber?
@@AaronAhlgren12 you already said it, for farming as soon as were dealing with 1 node waves, like 1/2/x or 3/1/x and whatelesenot you need someone else, and for challengequest i would use ANY of the ssr AOE sabers over her (this maybe changes if she ever gets a crit buff in the future). Dont get me wrong she reached the 5star in 4star disguise tier, but that doesnt mean the others are devalued. Im also sure to bet that more people have some of the AOE ssrs than her (since shes storylocked)
@@christof6809 She's good for CQ too, she has pierce invulnerability. Amusingly she still loops 1/2/X waves using rising mud rain at a small sacrifice to damage over black grail, but her NP is still on that super cracked modifier of 450% at base with a really high base attack stat for a 4* I think the only one with a higher attack stat is Gorgon unless they made someone else surpass her attack stat in the 4* department.
As a Saber Alter fan, I'm so happy right now! My NP2 Saber Alter will be very pleased in 2 years and will definitely be grailed to Lv100 by then. I can only hope that, if this is actually a bug, it remains as a feature. Even if it is patched though, she can now use 50% CEs like Cranking instead of Kscope, which is still a pretty big deal.
The other day I hoped Salter would get a buff someday, well that exceeded expectations, nodes have anywhere between 1-5 enemies per wave iirc on one wave alone that's 50% NP... holy Ex rank indeed
I can't believe it... I never thought I'd see the day. Back when I first started playing 5 or so years ago, one of my earliest banner experiences was rolling on a Merlin banner where Salter was also on rate-up. The result? No Merlin, but SIX Salters. Needless to say, I was pretty salty. But it didn't take me long to lean into loving my Salter, and she eventually became the first servant I 100'd and 2K Fou'd. So I've long had a jacked af Salter, and her damage has been good, but never mindblowing. ...That all changes today. My Dark Queen is now lore-accurate broken 💪
Yeah, this makes me want to 120 her. Only problem? No coin fix and I have her NP1 on NA only. Don't have her on JP, but I'm hoping she gets a rateup on JP because if she is alone on the rateup it's a 2.1% rate there now for SR's on rateup. Would absolutely roll a lot of her if I could.
Is there a way to see Myst’s more updated Saber tier list?The one in this video doesn’t match his upload from 5 months ago, and I would love to see a live updated one
Finally! I knew she'd come in handy someday when I summoned her back in Okeanos lol. Even now I like using her in battle. The HF route and movies just cemented my love for this woman.
Nice. Since it seems they stopped holding back on giving buffs for some Servants, my hope for Tamamo to get her TRUE effect of her NP in EXTRA might not be an impossible dream anymore! C'mon Lasagna! Buff Tamamo's NP so instead of CD reduction, make her reset skill CD completely!
I mean about the np level problem, isn't her dmg multiplier already higher than normal? Pretty sure 450% for np1 is like already an upgraded np 1 with 50% extra so i don't feel its really gonna be a problem, she's just dumb now
I never been so happy for an skill upgrade for me i got her right off the back and she was an mainstream farmer until castoria and even then to get more quartz for lostbelt 6 she was among the sercants i got to bond 11
Saber Alter carried me early game and was my first fully ascended Servant after getting Artoria I had no need to use her but I am so excited for this buff to use my OG again
oh man, this is amazing! Artoria Alter was my very first 4* and I've been using her ever since. Now she's level 100, np5 and bond grailed. And now I see she got a buff, but not just any buff, this buff is literally changes everything. I never imagined they'd buff her in such a way honestly. I wish they'd do something with her Charisma as well, but I doubt we'll get that any time soon. I'm an NA player, but this still makes me happy, I'll wait patiently for 2 years for my wife to become stronger :D
I got her on NA recently and love the way she plays she's my favourite version of artoria and I was like I gotta make her work and now seeing this I've got a reason to invest in her now I'm so excited for whenever NA get this buff 😁
This is most likely an oversight in the way the effect interacts with the np, i dont think they intended for this buff to have such an impact and staright up make her the best aoe buster saber. In any case happy for all the Salter enjoyers out there
I play on NA, And i've always really wanted a Salter. I have Artoria Prime, But i Really Like Salter. Now that i know she gets a really busted buff in the future, I want to get her even more!
She is finally lore accurate
Yeah, before she couldn't use black grail like she did in the story. Now? With black grail? If they give her charisma a really, really good buff it's approaching Melusine levels of stupid if it isn't there already since the mana burst carries over between turns.
Fr, imagine Saber alter not being ablte to spam and do it with the Black Grail.
I've thought of a thousand ways to buff Salter, but I've never dare to dream about something like this
Same here. I thought Lasagna will just copy paste the upgraded Mana Burst skill of OG Saber and also copy paste the same Charisma skill of Morgan for her to have 50% NP charge from skills alone.
But this buff is mind boggling.
@@paulsteaven They can drop the NP damage buff on her charisma then
Salter really climbed from C to EX with a single buff 💀
Just like cu caster ☠️
CEX
@@Pain09876 both are story locked, there's definitely a silver lining here
@@imafish3390aren’t they both unlocked after Fuyuki
@@Finalslashesyes but they’re still locked to story banner
Its 10% np refund per enemy. Imagine 6 enemies in the field. This is wild.
If it's 6/6/x that's gonna be
70% on refund on 1st wave
130% on 2nd wave. Damn.
@@kennobu8181Refunds more NP than freaking Arts loopers, truly the Greater Grail is a helluva drug.
@@kennobu8181 yeah its crazy. Now we have double koyan and oberon team, she is more nuts.
Then imagine someone try to make her use her skills twice in first turn by 2 Koyan and Maidteria. Unlimited Excaribur Morgan.
Always has been, but now she is broken broken, glad my boy saw and corrected his mistakes
Man, She jumped from the bottom to the top of the Tier List in one go :)
Bottom? I thought people said Salter is a good 4stars due to single target NP damage but in AoE form.
@@VitchAndVortyyea they said this a lot years ago
@VitchAndVorty in original tier list she was at the same tier as Saber Lily.
When I started playing your statement was true, I got her from free SR ticket and used her constantly, but nowadays she really did fall behind other sabers. True, she has extraordinarily good basics in form of her attack stat and her NP multiplier, but that was impressive a few years ago, nowadays without good skills unit is just glorified beat stick and nothing more (she still has charisma rank E).
And she doesn't have ST damage modifier on her NP. Arash does. Her is obviously higher but still not as high as ST.
So they made her into a servant with Buster card damage but arts card np gain
I wish we got buffs HALF this good for other servants... The power of seibah privilege is true
I wish they reworked all the characters in such a way that there were no frankly weak characters.
I thought you'd correct yourself in tomorrow buff breakdown but that was fast lmao.
Sasuga Master of Caster
They Turned Salter into how she is in Heavens Feel. Spamming NP's non stop!
Are Koyanskaya and Oberon in HF as well?
@@thewhyzer Well in HF she basicaly has unlimited mana and NP battery so we are close enough.
@@thewhyzer no
NP1 Salter w/ Black Grail is 384k neutral which beats out 350k Rising Mud Mordred and 344k Rising Mud Artoria
If Ibuki just gets a basic NP upgrade she's 329k with Cranking.
NP5 Salter w/ Black Grail is 555k which is nearly the same as NP4 Ibuki Douji hitting undead and stronger than NP1 Siegfried hitting Dragons.
Level NP1 Salter to 100 and she hits as hard as NP1 Godjuna against Neutral.
so...she is grand saber now ?
Good Lord, thats crazy
@@LongDQ3008hell yeah
Hahaha. Now we wait
@@LongDQ3008 always has been
Alright Lasengle, Salter, Saber and Mordred got something crazy on their looping stuff. Now can Arthur get something too to keep up with them please?
@@xenoemblem7I don’t mind him being weaker but at least make him being able to take advantage Double Koyan and Oberon setup. He can’t even do that, and apparently the other gold saber that’s going to receive a rank up is another SR, so him getting a buff this anniversary is out of the window.
All i can hope is now that Prototypes Fragments gets a campaign since that series just got a manga and maybe he’ll get something from there
@@gee_kazArthur I think for his S3 skill to get buffed to add 30% charge like for me I think it needs to be party attack and modifier against giants for three turns. His NP adds damage against Threat to Humanity upgrade his np damage to 30% and of course Artoria and Mordred it charges Arthur np for 20 %
@@gee_kazthere's still hope to Arthur, if Lasagna buffs his NP and add more stuff to it.
*Lasanga sees that he has no Tìts*
I don’t think we will.
Or at the very least a new stronger version if they really want extra money.
Salter+ Black grail
I love lore acccuracy
Thank you for this clarification Myst, it's needed because this buff is absolutely insane, a 4* bringing as much heat as the best 5* in class.
Myst: “you might have Better dps under your belt, but it’s gonna take more than that to impress m-“ Salter: “ buster loops with a qp ce” Slow motion myst “OHHHHH”
Holy mother of buffs... She just looped to 70 on the last turn with a buster np that's insane.
when you ever dared to put saber alter in the same tier as lily just because story lock and poor damage
Lasengle : "EAT THIS!!!!!!!!!!"
Who would have thought that they would give us a broken af servant during the anniversary, and it's not the anniversary servant?
The only buster servant that actually "recharge"
I can't wait for this to come to NA. My favorite version of Saber getting the respect she deserves, and on the right class no less!
When will it come to NA servers?
@@4k_ra2025, no kidding. Since this buff was implemented this year in JP, all new features takes 2 years to arrive in NA
Next year august i think
Those of us who rolled for Merlin on that one banner that had Salter on 4* rate up and got her NP5? We eating good today.
Funny how one buff made her the best aoe saber farmer in the game
Not when Wave 1 has 1 enemy though? Like the current Nerofest Prelims Champion.
if one enemy . you need starting charge ce
Salter was the reason I started playing FGO after watching the Heaven's Feel films, super hyped for this buff :)
such a good buff, not only making her better than the ssrs but also not devaluing the ssrs. Such an interesting concept and i LOVE it. One of the best buffs i have ever seen, making her top tier but also keeping her from being broken with the enemy numbers.
Dude this 100% devalues the aoe saber SSRs. Why would you ever run Artoria or Mordred over Alter? She can BG loop 2/2/x with higher damage numbers than her SSR counterparts. The only reason to ever run another AOE saber over her is if we are dealing with single target waves, but at that point why not just use a single target saber?
@@AaronAhlgren12 you already said it, for farming as soon as were dealing with 1 node waves, like 1/2/x or 3/1/x and whatelesenot you need someone else, and for challengequest i would use ANY of the ssr AOE sabers over her (this maybe changes if she ever gets a crit buff in the future). Dont get me wrong she reached the 5star in 4star disguise tier, but that doesnt mean the others are devalued. Im also sure to bet that more people have some of the AOE ssrs than her (since shes storylocked)
@@christof6809 She's good for CQ too, she has pierce invulnerability. Amusingly she still loops 1/2/X waves using rising mud rain at a small sacrifice to damage over black grail, but her NP is still on that super cracked modifier of 450% at base with a really high base attack stat for a 4* I think the only one with a higher attack stat is Gorgon unless they made someone else surpass her attack stat in the 4* department.
@@AaronAhlgren12 Artoria is still stronger than the ST sabers because of dragon core.
I do think Mordred got rekt though
Salter making a huge comeback with this buff
Salter fans eating good tonight 🔥
Fr fr😩
This is the real anniversary servant
The real anniversary servant has come
Arts and Quick: looping
Buster: reloading
Salter: Buster re-Looping
As a Saber Alter fan, I'm so happy right now! My NP2 Saber Alter will be very pleased in 2 years and will definitely be grailed to Lv100 by then. I can only hope that, if this is actually a bug, it remains as a feature.
Even if it is patched though, she can now use 50% CEs like Cranking instead of Kscope, which is still a pretty big deal.
I wanted to grail her to 100 but told my self to wait until they buff her jp and holy shit it was worth the wait😭🔥🔥🔥
Mine is also np2
And then there's me failing both Koyan AND Oberon. Hopefully I can recover before the buff arrives in NA
Just save 900 for each - EZ.
My first 4 star servant, my first bond 10, and the one I used to slay goetia, glad she’s on top🙏🏾
Myst was so blown away by the actual numbers that he couldn’t even do his signature “Andapeaceout” the way he normally does it!
Wait "per enemy hit"? So if she's facing 6 enemies.... She's looping on her own..... A Buster servant able o loop by herself
Ok. She can keep that potato Charisma now
She literally is:
"Be careful who you call ugly in middle school"
She was the first 4 star i got a month into my na profile from a free 4 star ticket and brought me to the lostbelts
I am actually happy that I got spooked by her on a random story pull, still np 1 tho😂
Even at NP1, she already has a busted multiplier with 450%
A normal AOE Buster NP has 300%, post upgrade it become 400%
Lore accurate indeed. Now imagine this Salter buff when used on waves that have 6 enemies like that Rat Servants boss fight...💀
Looks like Salter is back in business. Neat. :D
Can’t wait for the buff to come to NA with my NP4 Salter
The other day I hoped Salter would get a buff someday, well that exceeded expectations, nodes have anywhere between 1-5 enemies per wave iirc on one wave alone that's 50% NP... holy Ex rank indeed
Is it just me or is there something here with how both salter and cu caster are related to fuyuki and they both received insane buffs?
I love the praises on Salter it makes me happy
finaly my girl got a nice buff, my first 4 star ticket choice and grailed servant :')
Friend, how is that when they give that ticket?
@@axelperez761 SR tickets, 2 or 3 years ago
@@Davi-sq7biDo you know if they will give that ticket again?
I can't believe it... I never thought I'd see the day. Back when I first started playing 5 or so years ago, one of my earliest banner experiences was rolling on a Merlin banner where Salter was also on rate-up. The result? No Merlin, but SIX Salters. Needless to say, I was pretty salty. But it didn't take me long to lean into loving my Salter, and she eventually became the first servant I 100'd and 2K Fou'd.
So I've long had a jacked af Salter, and her damage has been good, but never mindblowing. ...That all changes today. My Dark Queen is now lore-accurate broken 💪
Yeah, this makes me want to 120 her. Only problem? No coin fix and I have her NP1 on NA only. Don't have her on JP, but I'm hoping she gets a rateup on JP because if she is alone on the rateup it's a 2.1% rate there now for SR's on rateup. Would absolutely roll a lot of her if I could.
1:53 Is that assuming NP5 Salter? Or np1?
Salter was my first 4 star years ago when I started and I’m so happy to see her slap now can’t wait to get her buff… in 2 years
This is what I thought at first Muramasa's and Koyan's skill of NP gain per hit was. Now you know how busted their skills could have been.
Is there a way to see Myst’s more updated Saber tier list?The one in this video doesn’t match his upload from 5 months ago, and I would love to see a live updated one
I love this new buff! I got my Salter leveled up on my NA for longest time since I liked her, but this is gonna change how I farm in the future
20% charge already insane buff for her she op now
wow, she's the 6th buster servant that can bg-loop, the other 5 being Cas-Cú, Melusine, Morgan, Arcueid and Mom (Tiamat).
Myst while farming " wait hold on ! . . . W H A T ?! "
I'm so happy about this, She was the servant that got me into fgo and even have her at np2. Cannot wait for the buff eventually.
Now let's wait until they buff og Artoria
Finally! I knew she'd come in handy someday when I summoned her back in Okeanos lol. Even now I like using her in battle. The HF route and movies just cemented my love for this woman.
Oh hell yeah from c to ex with one buff, just like my favorite artoria deserves🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nice. Since it seems they stopped holding back on giving buffs for some Servants, my hope for Tamamo to get her TRUE effect of her NP in EXTRA might not be an impossible dream anymore! C'mon Lasagna! Buff Tamamo's NP so instead of CD reduction, make her reset skill CD completely!
I mean about the np level problem, isn't her dmg multiplier already higher than normal? Pretty sure 450% for np1 is like already an upgraded np 1 with 50% extra so i don't feel its really gonna be a problem, she's just dumb now
The thing is, you need append s2 opened, and with NP1, you need bond 10 for that.
This is probably the first rank up that i want to come early to NA, holy shit now Saber Alter feels like the menace she was in Stay Night.
well considering how she yeets excalibur back to back unlike OG self.
this buff makes sense.
let's pray that it's not a bug
Could Jord possibly add a note to the spreadsheet that Black Grail with VVO needs at least 2/2/X, I believe?
I never been so happy for an skill upgrade for me i got her right off the back and she was an mainstream farmer until castoria and even then to get more quartz for lostbelt 6 she was among the sercants i got to bond 11
Saber Alter carried me early game and was my first fully ascended Servant after getting Artoria I had no need to use her but I am so excited for this buff to use my OG again
Oh man, this gets me really hyped for the rest of the buffs. This is the first day
Omg. Now she is like SAlter from heaven's feel when she fought Heracles. I like it))
The games first Secret SSR is finally at parity with her original self again.
I manged to NP10 her on that last surprise rate up we got. This is going to be a long two year wait.
having an NP4 salter is suddenly very awesome
oh man, this is amazing! Artoria Alter was my very first 4* and I've been using her ever since. Now she's level 100, np5 and bond grailed. And now I see she got a buff, but not just any buff, this buff is literally changes everything. I never imagined they'd buff her in such a way honestly. I wish they'd do something with her Charisma as well, but I doubt we'll get that any time soon.
I'm an NA player, but this still makes me happy, I'll wait patiently for 2 years for my wife to become stronger :D
Myst's apologized video speedrun any%.
I used to pray for times like this
I got her on NA recently and love the way she plays she's my favourite version of artoria and I was like I gotta make her work and now seeing this I've got a reason to invest in her now I'm so excited for whenever NA get this buff 😁
A great start to this round of buffs. I saw a foreigner card in the lineup so hopefully they gave one of the Abbys something good.
Me with a NP4 Salter: We eating good today!
Now everyone is contractually obligated to play "She holds the black holy sword" when you farm with her
Best saber face finally got an OP buff!
My boy arthus needs a 50% battery n np damage up
My Salter np 5, lvl120, 2k fou will love this buff, unfortunately 2 years for it come to NA
If only all the story locked servants got the Habetrot tech and became part of the general pool once you clear their story chapter.
I now feel so justified in getting NP5 Salter entirely on a whim on NA when she last appeared
Never thought my np4 salter would be meta, but In two years it’ll be her time to shine.
I should have waited for 2 more years to do Avalon Le Fae. I'd like to defeat those Mors using this new Salter.
Salter: I'm the Mana Burst King now.
The Level 92 NP3 Salter I have on NA will be happy about this.
This is most likely an oversight in the way the effect interacts with the np, i dont think they intended for this buff to have such an impact and staright up make her the best aoe buster saber. In any case happy for all the Salter enjoyers out there
Choosing her as my free 4* servant way back was obviously the right move
When did they give it away friend?
Dont remember exactly but it must've been around the 2019 Gilfest@@axelperez761
longest 2 years of waiting now uh LESGOOOO
no worries man, its all good and now I gotta wait for this buff to come out in na. i have a np2 salter with me shit man im excited af.
Remember what she did to Heracles in Heaven's Feel 2 ? Now she can do it to everyone here
Deyuuuum I never thought they would buff a 4s servant becoming absolutely insane that surpasses 5s......
Where is medusa saber on that list?
As someone with a grailed NP 2 Salter, I am so excited for this buff
Poor Mordred, not even a full year for her time to shine.
I have an np2 Salter, my Artoria and Ibuki are both np1, I guess my choice to sometimes roll in story banner paid off?
I have Salter.... Can't wait to use her later when the NA game gets the buff update.
I play on NA, And i've always really wanted a Salter. I have Artoria Prime, But i Really Like Salter. Now that i know she gets a really busted buff in the future, I want to get her even more!
Bruh she basically has an Arts NP now that hits like a truck :0
Now Im really tempted to roll for Koyan so I can use my lvl 100 NP5 Salter in all it's glory
Holy shit I love Salter I'm definitely going to invest on her in the future.
Oh we back to Alter > OG, I thought the buff gonna be like KoL's S2 so I didn't pay much attention to it
So that's 10% from her np passively, and 10% *per enemy.*
That could be a 40% to *70%* refund as a buster. Holy shit.
Now we wait when they buff her charisma to establish the dominance as the best saber