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Grand servants are one of the interesting aspects of the fate series. where there are 7 of the strongest heroic spirits in the world who are sent to defeat the strongest enemy. until now, the appearance of the grand servants is still very mysterious because rarely anyone knows who and where they are. this time, I will try to give predictions about who the grand servants are in the fate series.
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One of the better Grand Berserker theories I found was the idea of summoning "The Caveman." Humanity's platonic ancestor that through brute force managed to survive and thrive in the age of the gods.
That may go along with the idea of grand berserker being Adam, before he ate from the fruit of knowledge and gained reason.
Unga and his mighty club bunga
I've always been a fan of the theory that grand berserker is Cain, humanity’s first killer. I think it would be very fitting.
@@divinity6757Samson from the Bible makes more sense
@@entilly8783 samson is already in fate. Hes a regular berserker.
It’s curious how most of grand servants are male and most of beats are female 😅
so we can get proper fan fictions of course, lmao
That is weirdly true. Beast only got Goetia, meanwhile never seen a female Grand servant.
@@Vierdroumm camazotz is a male
@@Vierdro exactly i believe their are more grand servants but can only summon 7 at a time
Seriously there are more female servant than male servant
7:02 Fromthe Fate wiki on. The Norse God Odin, having foreseen the plans of both Goetia and the Alien God, used Cú Chulainn as a proxy to help him save the Human Order. Cú Chulainn was initially summoned to the Fuyuki Singularity as Lancer, but Odin granted him his Authority, transforming him into Caster and giving him some of Odin's abilities. So we hace seen more of him than some realise
But we can’t summon him but we can summon a beast.
@@AloyImpact We cannot summon a Beast. The Beasts summon themselves. Independent Manifestation allows them to self-summon wherever they want, whenever they want. Heck, the "Saint Graph" is originally the biological structure of a Beast. Servants just copy it.
I would add sun wukong as BEAST and tang shan zang Horse could be a BEAST too since it's true form was white dragon it could match melusyy
@@leonelendruw6982 Sun Wukong became a Buddha. I seriously doubt he would be a Beast.
@@saxor96 Wukong and Yu Long is best candidate for become beast still no idea why they call it Horse White Dragon
Something of note, Grand Servants aren't set in stone until they relinquish their position/disappear. They are granted the status in a particular summoning to counter a particular Beast. Noah became Grand Rider right at that precise singularity to fight Draco. Same with Orion to fight Koyanskaya. If they are needed again, they'll become a Grand again. If they need another candidate for a particular beast, another candidate will take the Grand position of a class we already know about.
Exactly, for what I remember the only one ''set in stone'' is Gramps.
@@nightcorewb4949 Yep, even getting back into Grand Assassin to fight Sodom in Arcade. But we have a substitute for him now so he doesn't need to appear all times, it seems.
@@nightcorewb4949and Solomon before he yeeted himself
I have a question, I believe in that theory, therefore I ask what would be the beast that corresponds to Quirinus?
@@kevinalejandrogomezgonzale304 Quirinus is different, as we forced a Grand to fight something that wasn't a Beast. In this case, he counters Zeus.
Remember, the Extra storyline had a hero use Excalibur to defeat/repel Velber like 14k years ago after it almost wiped out humanity.
That sounds like grand servant levels of power to me
Una excalibur sin restricciones con toda la compatibilidad así favor
I can see them making Excalibur itself a waifu and a GS
CAVEMAN ARTORIA!!!
Not just the Extra timeline, but all of proper human history's parallel worlds share that part of history. Since Castoria Asc3 is the concept of the wielder of the holy sword, she technically also includes that original wielder of Ecalibur. So if Castoria ever becomes saber class, there you have it.
@@Dagowit Isn't that Castoria, tho?
The Artoria voiceline is not official, before Umino Chika designed Oberon, Nasu was going to make Castoria become Grand Saber, but after reading about Oberon he changed his mind and changed the story. That is why when Alien God has that dream about her fighting the Grand Servants, Castoria appears as the Grand Saber
oh thank god. thanks for the info man!
@@mr.skeptic got a theory for you Grand Saber is General Artogius the Roman ancestors of the Pendragon name and likely the one who kill the white Titan in extella
@@tonyinfinite5174 I don't know where this theory is from but Sephyr was defeated by Excalibur before Gilgamesh was even born so he's probably not the one who defeated Sephyr 😅.
@@CalebPorter1105 my brother in christ the counter force summoned heroic spirits from the future/past to face Sefar the white Titan, Gilgamesh himself stated his own FATHER fought Sefar in that war despite it happening in14000 BC
@@tonyinfinite5174 My brother in Christ, this is a classic case of you made it the fuck up. Nowhere does it say Servants fought Sefar. It says "a human" wielded Excalibur. Servant's are not human. They WERE human but Servant's are Spirits. Specifically, Ghost Liner is their official title.
Also, Lugalbanda never fought Sefar. Literally the only info we have is "he made a deal with the White Titan to spare Mesopotamia and their Gods so that Gilgamesh can be born." The point was to NOT FIGHT Sefar lol. However, the Mesopotamian Gods still somehow get downgraded to Divine Spirits even though they never fought. It also never tells us when this deal was made. IRL myth says Lugalbanda ruled for 1200 years around the time of 3000 BC. It's possible Fateverse Lugalbanda was simply alive all the way back in 12000 BC but that's unlikely. Also, how could Sefar spare Mesopotamia if it didn't exist in 12000 BC? You see how the inconsistencies never end? I could go on but I think you get the point.
Oh yeah, that's another thing you got wrong. It's 14000 years ago which is 12000 BC. Not 14000 BC.
This became longer than I wanted but tl;dr You're wrong.
Sasaki Kojiro as a grand saber
Our lord and saviour Sasaki Kojiro is the only grand saber I'll accept!!!
I prefer Masamune Date with six swords
My man Kojiro needs some love. At least a four star or five star variation of the real Kojiro from an alternate timeline or something as a Foreigner considering Fate's stance is that he wasn't real :C
Gods Zeus should be Grand Saber with his Blade of Olympus 😂😂😂
I hope Grand Saber is male Musashi. The bait and switch is going to be epic. Like, "Musashi is coming back??" And then not quite, but we get someone new and even better
yeeeaaa dude, i really hope he is gonna be one
Pretty sure one of the conditions to be a Grand Saber is to be the wielder of a holy sword, which Musashi doesn't posess.
@@dreamimgflowerd976 Well in LB6 they specified that Velber was felled by holy weapons, emphasis on plural, and explicitly states that Excalibur is only one of them. They can always pull something out of their ass and give Musashi Kusanagi or something
Idk about even better, the male musashi never fought sasaki bc in phh sasaki never existed
@@straypaperthey don't say that, reread the scenes
It’s important to note that Grands aren’t chosen because they’re the most powerful in their class. They’re chosen because their NPs and skill sets are the ideal counter to one or more of the current Beasts.
The only reason Orion was in the Atlantis Lostbelt is because he was tracking Koyanskaya, and Romulus wasn’t summoned by the Counterforce, he was forcibly summoned by Ritsuka to fight Zeus. Romulus wasn’t supposed to be there.
If I recall, it’s been stated either in interviews or in canon media that Artoria is the most powerful Saber, or at least top 5. She could certainly end up being the Grand Saber, but her power alone doesn’t qualify her for the title. What’s important is the nature of her power and how it matches up against the current threats to proper human history. Cu Chuilan has an NP that’s supposed to be guaranteed to hit target’s heart, which for any normal foe would be instant death, but that doesn’t work so well against the cataclysmic Beasts. Gilgamesh and Heracles would likely be the strongest Archers, yet Orion was chosen because of his prowess for tracking and hunting beasts, and Koyanskaya represents nature’s wrath as a demon fox.
Yea, some people have already said that to me. I think I was under the wrong assumption because these Grands are strong af. thanks for telling me that tho
@@mr.skeptic don’t get me wrong, the Grands are definitely strong. It’s just that their total power or strength isn’t the primary criteria for the title of Grand.
For example, Noah isn’t the strongest Rider (Drake and Odysseus are both leagues above him in terms of overall power and strength). However, Noah’s noble phantasm, the literal Noah’s Flood, happens to be an excellent counter to Draco’s flames and mud, so he was selected as Grand Rider in order to fight her.
Solomon was Grand Caster before losing that title after being summoned by Animusphere for a grail war. However, he was never the strongest caster, and didn’t even have any magic outside of Ars Nova and his control over Goetia. Merlin would likely be the strongest Caster, but he also can’t currently inherit the title because he was summoned by Chaldea (not that he can’t be Grand in the future, just that he isn’t right now, nor does he want to be since he prefers to take a passive role in human affairs). As far as we know, there is no current Grand Caster, though if there is, it would likely be either Tamamo-no-Mae or Caster Gilgamesh, with the former being a lunar princess with deep connections to deity, and the latter being rumored to hold the Axe of Marduk, a weapon capable of cleaving the head off a god. Neither are the strongest Caster, but have aspects, abilities, or weapons that would have a favorable matchup against the Beasts or other threats to humanity.
Romulus isn’t the strongest Lancer either. Yes he has the soul of a god in him, but Quirinius is a lesser god in Roman mythology, and Romulus’s power isn’t based on his strength, but rather his namesake as the founder of the Rome, the last great empire of the ancient era and the foundation for politics and culture for many modern nations. In terms of strength or power, Cu Chuillan, Enkidu, and many others would stand above him, but as the embodiment of human civilization, Romulus can bolster humanity and effectively drive it to success, or provide a foundation for humanity to endure, hence why his NP is literally him building the foundation of humanity. This aspect could be highly effective against something like the alien god U-Olga, who was trying to erase humanity’s foundations.
Gramps is currently the only known Grand who’s actually the strongest of his class, and he’s also the only Grand summoned by Chaldea that hasn’t had to relinquish the title to be summoned. The reason is because there’s simply no other Assassin who could take his place. The very essence of the class is defined by death, and Gramps is literally death itself, the grim reaper. He can impose death upon anything, even a primordial god with no concept of death, which gives him a favorable matchup against not only Tiamat, but most Beasts. There’s simply no other assassin that would come close to having those odds against the Beasts, so he retains the title.
There’s a lot of nuance with the Grands that centered around the nature of the Beasts, gods, and potentially even the Types, most of whom we know little to nothing about as is. The Counterforce is what selects Grand Servants, and we still don’t fully understand what it even is yet, much less how it works.
@@danielpatterson1576I don't know about Drake and Odysseus, the Flood and the Ark are really big deals, and apparently Noah also wields the Sword of Flames from Archangel Michael.
A better example would be Ozy, who is incomparable to any other Rider class Servant that isn't straight up a God.
@@sebastianbaranda9149 as I said, the title of grand isn’t given solely based on strength. And I’ve never heard of Noah having Michael’s sword, and the “sword of flames” would be a reference to the Angel that guards Eden, which isn’t Michael anyway.
@@danielpatterson1576 He has the sword on his third ascencion, the writings in hebrew read "The Sword of Swirling Flames". The design is also pretty reminiscent of Ea tbh.
The Grand Saber is actually The Excalibur itself.
Judging by the initial plan for lb6, it seems that Artoria Avalon (not Castoria but Avalon itself) is the grand saber and her sprite is even used as a shadow stand in for the 7 grands in lb7. The same also happened to Taigong but his change happened way before the lb6 change, they also still uses his sprite instead of Nemo in the lb7 grand servants line up.
FOOLS
So sad if Arthur (Proto) are not Grand Saber... Until now he still searching Beast 666 because Merlin (Proto) told him to find it before back to Avalon.
My personal pic for Grand Saber would be Sir William Marshal.
If Artoria is the Knight that every squire wants to be. Marshal is the Knight that did it and in some cases, surpassed it. Plus it’s nice to have knight servants from history rather than legends appear in the universe.
Im still on the boat of Cain being grand berserker or atleast a candidate because the first murderer in the bible seems fitting.
Grand saber is probably Musashi-chan.
And I do have a theory that Son Wukong might be one or two grand servants. Maybe Lancer or Ruler. He is a Bodhisattva after all.
He's a Buddha as well, so that puts him in the Saver class... Which kicks him out of the Throne of Heroes.
He might be Grand Lancer or Berserker if they BS a way of him dropping his enlightment, but Ruler doesn't have a Grand Container, only the standard classes and the cheater that made an entire Throne of Heroes just for him.
I don't think you'd be a Bazerker. And I hate to break this you, but that is what a Bodhisattva means. You've achieved enlightenment and became a buddha.
I just remember the discourse that Grand Bazerker was him. They all were very much wrong.
@@Kingjder02 no, Boditshava is that you're on the path to become a Buddha, not that you are already one.
In any case, indepently of him qualifying for Grand Berserker or not, he's still stuck in Saver until they throw him out of there like they did with Xuanzang.
- Sun Wukong is weak af.
- He is just big mouth and chaotic. But once he gets into a bad match, he runs just as fast as he appears. The time he calls himself "Monkey King" is just him bullying weak monsters.
- During the journey, most of the time is him asking someone for help.
It was Central Asia that Fergus cracked up when he broke the underworld of Agartha, not North America.
Another theory about the Grand Saber I have seen floating around is that it is the original wielder of the sword that would be known als Excalibur. The one who face Sefar the White Titan and did what the gods could not do and put that form of her to an end. Some people in the fandom call that first wielder of the Holy Sword forged in the Heart of the planet by the 6 Fey "cavemen Artoria", because, well this was 14000 years ago and in the visuals Fate7Extella gave us distant shots of what looked like Arotia were used.
As LB 6 did directly confirm: Odin did already get involved through CuChulainn Caster / Grímr the Sage.
Fergus did that too in the singularity. I just put Agartha's picture there to show how epic it looks. Thanks for the info anyway!
Honestly this might sound weird but Fionn could qualify as a grand saber, sure we summon him as a lancer but most of his tales depict him with the sword of the war god Nuadha
Yeah his history is amazing but was giving to other servants and he used as a joke same with the rest of the Celtics its a shame
@@brian_Austin27 I mean a lot of servants that were used as a joke ended up being grand servants, like Orion was just a pervert before then Boom, Super Orion, then Romulus was just funny Roma man then boom even funnier Roma man, I wouldn’t be surprised if they made him grand saber for the sole reason that he is taken so not seriously nobody would expect it
3:06 I’m not sure if this was a leaked idea or all in my head but I recall hearing that grand saber could be the original weirder of Excalibur who during the age of gods was given Excalibur to vanquish velber.
Nah just candidate
Also he usually just called caveman saber for lolz
can we just realise we all expect grand servants to stop at the original 7 classes when there could very well be one for each of the others? grand foreigner, grand Ruler, grand Avenger ect
It's already confirmed theirs isn't Grand Class for the other class.
What are you talking about we already have the Grand Foreigner, if you finish Lostbelt 7 you'll know that Kukulkan is technically the Grand Foreigner
More like ORTs last fight, it summoned itself as a servant of the grand level, and it was a foreigner.
Thats your grand foreigner taken form.
If we ever have to fight Grand Beast, we are royaly fucked
I can't wait for Grand Saber to be a dual saintgraph of shirou and seiba from fate route
Also there is Heracles since we know he is sunmoned as his weakest class, just imagine what he could do at his best class!
Berserker wasn't he's weakest class, he could be summoned in any class except Caster (Saber, Archer, Lancer, Rider, Assassin and Berserker), Archer should be he's best class so in comparison Berserker is weak, but none is said about others
@@valeforyoru There is some evidence to suggest that the Einzbern's made a huge mistake when summoning Heracles. They believed that Madness Enhancement would make him 'better' but for him in particular that's just not the case. Heracles is at his strongest when his mind is intact as his Madness was a result of Hera's curse. Yet even with a divine handicap sealing most of his intelligence and forcing him to rely on instinct, Heracles was strong enough to solo most of the other servants in the fifth holy grail war anyway.
@@valeforyoruBerserker is his weakest class because one of Heracles Primary weapon that let him successfully finish the 12 Labors is his sharp mind which gets eroded as a Berserker.
@@fg009letyrds8along with his weapon literally just being a part of their wall it can’t help a bunch
Maybe a candidate for Grand Saber could be even Fion?
Saw today a clip, how dirty fgo has handled him. From his legends is he on the same level as Artoria and other great servants. Had a lot of magical objects and had even a sword (Mac an Luin, its fused in the game with its spear, but was originaly a sword).
He could fullfill the role of a grand servant. ANd, it would be a chance, to give him some credits, that he deserve.^^
if Ristuka was indeed the grand berserker, even the other grands would run in fear. she pretty much acts with the power of the toon force.
for grand saber, well Excalibur is sword of planet, there also the original wielder of Excalibur too, and saber face has very strong connection toward the creation of Excalibur even if it was the story of fairy version, so no matter how sick we see saber face, it is hard coded in lore. in sense Artoria weild excalibur not because she was arthur but because she was saber face she wield excalibur, it was like short cut cheat code at this point that saber-face = Sword. at this point it was a skill like Saber-face Ex or something.
We all the know the true grand berserker is actually just Godzilla lol
Perhaps the grand saber is lartoria using Excalibur.
I want Grand Saber to be Slim Ceasar
Nah Slim Ceasar should be Grand Rider
grand ruler if possible, but it have to be very speacial case like grand forgreiner
@@misterart7298I think grand ruler would just be J-man
I can see Artoria being a grand if all the seals are unlocked but that's a big IF that Artoria will be Lion King type of entity and i can't picture the mountain of shit that must happen for all 13 seals to be unlocked also the hell are we going to fight with that...
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Grand Berserker Sun Wukong would be peak
And if the Grand Assassin is the founder of the Order of Assassins, it would make sense for the Grand Saber to be the founder of the One-Sword school, Itō Ittosai, even if he's not as famous as Musashi and Kojiro, nor is his sword as legendary as Arthur's.
Also Grand Lancer Philip II of Macedon, Iskandar's father who revolutionized the Macedonian phalanx with their really long spears, would be amazing.
It has been hinted through the years that Saber Raikou is a major powerhouse, with both kintoki and raikou herself comenting on it and being confused of why she came as a berserker. Maybe the counterforce is waiting for something special to send her off
I’m surprised there was no mention of Tezcatlipoca. Who was originally a grand berserker who ended up taking Hassan’s spot as the grand assassin.
Finally, I’ve been thinking about Hou Yi as grand archer for years and I now have a second opinion on it.I would’ve said Sun Wukong (Havoc in Heaven version) as grand berserker candidate tho
A awesome theory I saw on Reddit is the First ever holy Grail war was just the Grand servants.
It sounds like a cool I just wish I came find the person who made it to give credit too.
Actually fake, the first holy Grail war have only three Servant (the three original family of Stay Night).
@@mathieu9236 That's not true. They invited four external guys to "see" the success of the ritual, but would never get the prize. They had the Calvary classes. All 7 Servants are needed, it wouldn't make sense to have only 3.
On the other hand, King Hassan would refuse to participate in a Holy Grail War, period.
Grand Saber: Perhaps the original wielder of Excalibur before Artoria, possibly Adam or someone just as ancient
Grand Lancer: I'll go with Odin because I can't think of anyone
Grand Archer: Heracles
Grand Berserker: Cú Chulainn because it's said he went insane in his legend and something I forgot
We alr have Cu Alter as Berseker and he's quite weak to be called Grand Berserker
Too late thanks to this information
I can now call myself a grand berserker
Grand Saber= Fionn mac Cumhaill, Only Gil has more god tier artifacts then him and a good amount of Arthorian lore is likely based on his story. Seriously Fionn was robbed in FGO and he and his are basically Age-Of-Gods round table except he was slaying mosnters on par with large tier Divinities.
While "Grand Servant candidates" are powerful Heroic Spirits, it is not who they are that makes them Grand, it's how they were summoned.
The original 7 Grand Servants were Counter Guardians summoned by Alaya's Counter Force in reponse to a specific threat. Counter Guardians are given as much power as they need to defeat the threat they were summoned for, and the reason the Grands are so strong is because the threat is on a grand level.
Ironically, the threat they were summoned to defeat, the Beasts, are also part of Alaya's Counter Force. Basically, they are the way in which the Counter Force keeps itself in check, kinda weird.
Alaya is one half of the will of the planet, or the "World." Alaya is the will of humanity, the planet's dominant species. The other half is coined as "Gaia" by mages, and is the will of planet's self-preservation.
I apologize for the writing since I use Google translate. Regarding the Grand, although Hassan was summoned to kill Tiamat, in theory the Grand are not only summoned to kill the beasts, but it even becomes more complex, the Grand only appear when a threat is going to completely exterminate the beast. humanity but that can also apply to some singularity, a specific enemy or even a servant where the counterforce will make the invocation for a Grand. So for Artoria or Arthur to be Grand, a necessary threat would have to appear that deserves their invocation as Grand since also depending on the threat, a hero would be chosen above the rest. For example, if in the hypothetical case the white titan comes out, the best option to fight it would be Arturia for the Excalibur lot itself, oh if the beast 6 comes out, the best knowledge to defeat it would be Arthur, but what happens if by chance Is the threat Rome? The best option to counter this threat would be Altera due to its history. I hope you understand with this example since a Grand will not necessarily come out because there is a beast lurking there since depending on the beast a Grand will be summoned or not since no Grand came out to stop Tamo Beast or the putx de Babylon (I really don't know about Nero) but the Grand Archer was needed to defeat Artemis since she wasn't a Beast
Now regarding the subject of Arturia, the Saber version needs to come out for a while since being the face, giving it a rather curious interlude and they even confirmed that its Ávalon version will come out (I'm not referring to Casturia) it still doesn't have a real participation in the history, it has only appeared in a couple of events like summer 1 and the last guda guda but after that nothing, only mentions and I find that strange. Supposedly it should have left for Ávalon le Fay but they gave us those strange things like Oberon and Arturia didn't even come out, since due to history itself it must have been in that lostbelt with the departure of Vortingern.
Regarding Musashi, I find it difficult since within Fate the greatest feat that Musashi has had was with Chaos, which did not need a Grand for that lostbelt, the only reason Romulus came out was only because of hacking but in itself no Grand came out as an untouchable royal servant.
wow, that's very interesting info from another perspective. i never thought about it like that.
@@mr.skeptic Another fact that I forgot to mention and I think it is confirmed is that the Grand cannot be divine spirits so both Gilgamesh, Karna and other characters like that could not be a grand. And with Gilgamesh caster? The only thing that is specified about Gil is that to be a grand caster he must have lv ex clairvoyance like Merlin and Gilgamesh are, that is why Merlin is a candidate but he is not a Grand Servant, in the same way that there are candidates to be a beast, Another way would be by hacking the counterforce itself as happened with Quirinus or the Grand Foreigner himself with ORT, a class that is impossible to invoke as a grand since the extra classes are creations of the magicians and not the counterforce, so think about it that way. If a Grand ruler comes out in the future it would be a false Grand because that class cannot be a grand, yes it would be a Grand but not by the counterforce and again I apologize for the writing since English is not my native language
but the drama cd has nothing to do with fgo, it is a fact that Artoria Saber has not had a real participation in the game for all this time that the story has already advanced a lot. And regarding Oberon he is still Vortingern deep down (no matter how bad he turned out) or rather, it would be the same as what happens with Ishtar who uses a vessel to manifest herself.@@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hell
@@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hellWhether it is "canon" remains indifferent to the little relevance that Arturia Saber has had within the history of the game. What's more, if participation is zero if you compare it with the rest of the characters, the fact that it has endless lore outside of the fgo is indifferent to the little appearance it has had within it and to make matters worse it has even been announced on the main poster of the Lostbelt and has barely had a mention. It's like you telling me "you forget everything that Arturia went through in stay night" it's stupid since one thing doesn't take away the other
Regarding Oberon Vortingern, then, unless otherwise stated, this will continue to be Vortingern
And regarding "canon" in Fate you have to take it with a grain of salt since there are things that should be considered canon as such and others that should not.
@@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hellThat it is still does not prove that Artoria Saber is the only one who has not even had a real participation in the game other than in two random events
For saber there is also saber Heracles, wielding the sword not even Zues could properly wield, aka the form he used in the Gigantomachia.
If all of Grand Order’s stories were to be animated one day, it would be imo the best anime of all time (or at least big enough to rival Star Wars).
Some of the stories might not be that great but the action scenes and animation and characters will imo more than make up for it.
Never mind the anime, the manga is way too good and I prefer the manga over VN (game). the plot is more pronounced because of their expressions, Fujimaru's involvement is also deeper, and he can also fight in his own way.
But Heracles was also a Saber once and wielded the big sword that identifies as a spear castoria's final ascension is holding and used it to wipe the floor with the titans.
I like the therory of Enkidu being grand berserker
The Fujimaru art on the TN is drawn by an artist called Paperpillar
oh god thank you! i was looking for that info!
Perhaps the grand saber is just the friend me made along the way.
For Grand Archer I always thought that the Grand Archer would be the original Robin Hood as the one that we do in fate already have is not the original Robin Hood but is merely one of the many of the Robin Hood that took the name Robin Hood. This would be like King Hassan being the first of the Hassan so, I thought it would make sense for the next Grand Archer to be the first Robin Hood. But I also like Hou Yi as I would like to see if they use the whole shooting down nine suns part of his myth as his noble phantasm.
I feel like grand berserker should go to Cain, the first man to kill in fit of rage.
I like to think Adam or Cain would be a Grand Berserker.
damn, Adam? thats... interesting
Berserk to Heaven because he send to earth because satansnake treachery by eating forbiden fruit
When i read notes, i was expecting Ado Edem to be a grand saber candidate, but its shame thrones doesn't exist there.
i completely agree with the last one lmap tho i believe gudako will end up becoming a beast since we are already a threat to humanity
There’s a theory that the grand saber is the person that wielded the original holy sword and cut the white titan in the beginning of the world honestly I can’t think of a perfect grand saber than him with Arthur being a close second
I thought that maybe the Grand berserker would be Cain or Grendel
We all know Musashi is Grand Saber class material :P
I made a Toys servent class.
A character I made she, not only she got her toys ability, she got her alien abilities, her basic super powers which is stuffs. The girl got at least almost ten nobel phantasms from the very moment she was summoned, after a little time she grew into having at least fifteen different nobel phantasms. Let me say the gears on her got some abilities of their own, her nobel phantasms summon alarming, that's just without her Toys servent class abilities.
She would quickly be of the grand Toys servent class. I can imagine Saber servant class would have difficulty against her
Grand Servants are not the strongest of the class despite some of them actually the strongest but are like the most fit for the Grand Class as the wisest, most capable and are only summoned when beasts of humanity are involved or humanity as a whole is in danger of extinction.
I thought Grand Saber was originally meant to be Castoria, hence why they can seen as a saber in one boss (Cernnous, I think). I might explain the data mine.
Really do hope its og male Musashi but we all know its saber Artoria in some way there’s no way the not giving it to there mascot.
Yeah im a lance fav weapon type of guy too it’s sad when they shaft them hard cant wait to see Percival animated. Pseudo Odin Cu from Fujuki singularity would be awesome to see in a lancer for with odin like helmet armor and kingly pelts. Kinda like proto Cu’s design but enhanced and refined
Whoever becomes the Grand Saber, they need to wield Marmyadose. And there's only one person who can... Heracles.
I was thinking that Raikou might be a grand saber candidate, we know that her berserker form is powerful and it was stated that her saber form supposably surpasses that
My favorite option for Grand Saber is the Archangel Michael, he's certainly as well known as the other candidates and more powerful in theory.
Saber Heracles could also be an option considering now how much Marmyadose was hyped up by the lore.
For berserker i think it should be either Sun Wukong or true Berserker Cu (not Cu Alter).
My theory about the grand saber is that we already got it, or rather we got what was supposed to be the grand saber but was changed during the production - Castoria.
Not only she IS the excalibur itself, uses marmyadose, the sword of hercakles that is stronger than excalibur but also in olga dream in lb7 her sprite is used as a replacement for the grand saber
iirc arthur was confirmed to not be a grand in fgo arcade, although of corse it doesn't mean he can't become one in the future
strange fake alcides went into a completely different direction, he would probably rather end up being a beast instead of a grand, alhtough since there is only one novel left we will probably quite quickly know how his strange fake story ends
as for grand lancer... not only odin is a god, we had raganarok "covered" by lb2 but also we have grimr
if I had to guess I would say that longinus (he appears already in fate/requiem) is not a bad candidate (although the existence of percival in the game makes it a bit less likely)
as for zerker - samson (already in samurai remnant) enkidu (stronger than gil) and true version of zerker cu all seem like good options
I could have sworn that Ibuki Doji was the grand saber
I think it would be funny if the Grand Saber wasn't Artoria its just Excalibur taking a human form XD
that last one could be the grand beast servant
Grand Saber Artoria has Avalon most likely as her noble phantasm, she was told to be invincible while having the sheath!
Grand Saber- male Musashi or Saber Kojiro
Grand Archer- Orion or Hou Yi
Grand Lancer-Romulus or Maui
Grand Rider- Noah and (self proclaimed) Taigong Wang
Grand Cater- Formally Solomon now Merlin
Grand Assassin- King Hassan and Tez
Grand Berserker- Cain
For Grand Lancer , I would put Lucius Longinus, since his spear is said to be on par with Rhongomyniad
Don't forget there is Grand Extra Class Foreigner is Ort Xibalba.
well theres also Heracles in his archer form that could be the grand archer considering his hydra venom bow can practically kill gods
grand berserker has to be tipu sulthan ...like theres no way anyone else even comes close
grand artoria would likely have avalon , but i think the grand saber was mentioned having a holy sword
Grand Lancer could be even:
Guan Yu. a great general from chionas 3 kingdom. WHo was famous with his polearm, as i know.
Or maybe Zhao Yu. A other general, who is very often showed with a spear.
Technically Tez is still a Grand Zerk, but since there are no other servants qualified to be a Grand Assassin he just got dragged into the role since he is most closely related to the aspects of King Hassan.
Grand Servants cannot be Divine Spirits, including demi-gods, cuz Alaya is the collective consciousness of humanity and its Counter Force will only call upon and empower humans. Romulus, who is the demi-god son of Ares, is one of the few exceptions because he lived as a human and is integral to Human History, as the founder of one of humanity's greatest civilizations.
Also, Artoria was once summoned and empowered way beyond that of a Grand. She was the Counter Guardian summoned by the Counter Force to defeat the White Titan, an entity that had killed all of the world's gods. In in sense, a "Super Grand Servant" Artoria already existed. It also shows that Alaya is capable of summoning Heroic Spirits from the future.
«Grand Servants cannot be Divine Spirits, including demi-gods» . orion a demigod and romulus nad grand assasin from lostbelt 7 a god/divine spirit in his grand form and gilgamesh is a candidate for grand caster
I would love to see true Sasaki to be a Grand saber but i doubt it
also losbelt 7 we did see another grand servant and it made it to 8 classes now
wasn't tezcatlipoca grand berserker but he gave it up to become grand assassin since no one else could.
yea, but "if only" there was another...
The girl version of the MC isn't Ritsuka, though... it's Gudako....
In my opinion, the coolest candidate for grand saber would be Heroic Spirit Shirou Emiya or Shiki Ryougi. The essence of Shirou's story is a boy with a dream to help others, basically the essence of a hero. Also Shirou's reality marble would be a perfect thematic counter to the beast: the stories of humanity vs the end of the story. While Shirou was the first protagonist of the fate series, Shiki Ryougi was the first protagonist of TYPE-MOON and I think that title holds weight. She also has a qualification that Shirou doesn't like how she has a named blade of her own: Kanesada Kuji. While I do think its probably Artoria or Arthur due to their marketability, I think it would be best to end this where it started.
The whole thing of kasumi voicing grand saber is left over from the original script of LB6, before Oberon was made and the whole story is rewritten. Found/Cath Palug was originally gonna be following Castoria around as well and there's even a random dialogue line left in that leads or comes from nowhere about Cath Palug awkwardly left in.
I personally hope it's an entirely new servant away from everyone and everything previously cuz I'm tired of recycling characters.
We have an artoria in every class except alter ego pretender and avenger, and I kinda hope it stays that way cuz we have too many of her.
The only Sakura faces I'm willing to put up with is Violet and Kazudrop to finally finish the Sakura 5.
my crackpot theories for grand saber would be Excalibur itself, using an avatar o Artoria kinda like rhongomyniad (although castoria is basically that now), or a saber version o Astraea as the personification of Justice itself (lady justice) or vengeance as Nemesis.
Grand Saber: Arch Angel Michael
Original Wielder of Excalibur used to drive off Velbur.
And the "original" saber face
Dips on Guan Yu as the candidate of Grand Lancer
A good thing to note is that most Grand Servants are all simply candidates. Alaya chooses which candidate is best for defeating a certain type of Beast since they also aren't predetermined. The only Grand Servants that are locked because of their overwhelming power and accolades compared to the rest is King Hassan and Solomon. Obviously this is also impermanent because you can give up your Grand Status.
For saber i say sasaki kojiro, the one from the end of shimousa that went toe to toe with musashi losing only due to plot.
Heracle would be an incredible grand saber, him and marmyadose would be and incredible combo
In FGO Avalon le fae first alpha draft, Artoria Avalon is supposed to be Grand saber
Hopefully grand saber is real musashi. Best swordsman fr fr. Plus they keep teasing the male musashi like at the beginning of FSR and throughout shimousa
Also for archer, im thinking archer karna. Since his bow is definitely better for him.
4:53 Since alcides existence is kind of unnatural, his normal state would be more likely.
No spoil For the last grand berserker but that could explain why he fight the other grand candidate during lb7. after there only one grand berserker
I haven't played Lostbelt 7 yet, but looking at your comment, I'm looking forward to it
@@mr.skeptic don't worry you will like it
Grand saber candidate is possibly male mushachi
fujimaru as grand berserker.? hahaha
but he might become a servant in the future since he is related to Rin Tohsaka and Emiya Shirou who became an archer servant in grand order.. he also defeated Goetia using Mash’ shield after Mash died..
But there is also something funny about Grand Class. Like king Hassan gave up his power for a slash of death and our home boy use up all of his power for a shot of arrow. Do you think so grand assassin and archer will forever be left alone? Nah, the world will just find someone powerful and give them the title of grand so they can gain a grand class power to do work for the world. (Pretty much when you are a normal employee and your boss just promote you to the 2nd most powerful in the company)
Or how she got her red hare up to lvl 120 truly berserker like
We have several confirmed requirements for grand servants. Saber = Capable of wielding Excalibur
Archer = Independent Action EX (aka a legendary hunter)
Lancer = Unknown
Caster = Clairvoyance EX
Assassin = The First Hassan (and if you squint really hard Tezcatlipoca fits because he’s related to death and mountains)
Rider = Unknown
Berserker = Unknown
Because of Tsiah IV, i personally think it's Grand Saber Sasaki Kojirou
For Grand Saber don't forget Arthur come from another world so maybe he is a Grand in is own but in the true timeline it's obviously Arthroria, she respect all the condition for being Grand, she was already supposed to made a cameo in Lostbelt 6, in Lb7 when Olga fight in a dream all the Grands the Saber spot is taken by her Avalon counterpart. She is also one of the "King under the mountains" a popular trope in Europe about King who will one day awake again to defend their people, seem pretty like a Grand.
For Archer Hou Yi is a good choice, but their is also Nimrod the first Hunter who is also the King who created the Tower of Babel.
For Aclides it's a big no, first is an alter, second an Avenger.
For Lancer you could forget Odin, Grand Servant cannot be Divine Spirit, Tezcat could have take Grand Assassin spot only because Hassan is the only candidate and they share a lot of similitude. Odin also already play is part by sending Cu Caster is avatar.
For Grand Berserker I don't really know, maybe Altera or Genghis Khan.
5:02 procede a casi morir por una finta de un humano mejorado con magia
What if the grand saber is just another saberface
My honest belief of the grand Berserker is Sun Tsu. This is because Sun Tsu book despite its intellectual strategies and methods are still used today it doesn't ever shy away from one factor of humanity, war is human nature and he shall embrace the human instinct to destroy to survive.
My fun idea of grand Berserker is Kane, from the biblical story in genesis. And my thought is that this only exist to prevent him from ever being summoned, he would absolutely try to destroy humanity and in order to shackle him they granted him grand class to make sure he never escapes.