THE BEST EARPRO FOR YOUR BUDGET | review Peltor vs ISOTunes vs Sordin vs Safariland vs Walkers
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- There's lots of different brands of ear pro out there, and they are not created equal. Imri did a good job of putting these brands to the test. In this video we review the Safariland Liberator, Sordin Supreme Pro X, ISOTunes Sport, Peltor Sport and Walker's razor slim passive Ear Protection.
You'll notice these brands have been out a while. We don't just film videos about "new" products, regurgitating the marketing information off the side of the box. Again, Imri put these muff ear pro through the ringer, using them through courses and hunts, rain or shine, winter or summer. Some did better than others. Give the video a watch and, if interested, we have added links for each product. Sorry, we don't have a discount code. We bought these so you wouldn't have to. TR
LINKS:
Sordin Supreme Pro X Ear Pro:
bit.ly/48MWcc3
ISOTunes Sport Ear Pro:
bit.ly/3TSAejQ
Peltor Sport Ear Pro:
bit.ly/3RTjy94
Walkers Slim Passive Ear Pro:
bit.ly/3SdBNry
2:56 Walkers
4:54 Peltor Sport
7:35 ISOTunes Sport
11:50 Sordin Supreme Pro X
16:13 Safariland Liberator
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Pro tip, This will work for most ear pro as long as there is dead space inside the ear cups. This really works wonders with the Peltor Sports. Pop off the ear pads and expose the inner workings. Fill the void space of the ear cups with foam earplugs. As may as you can get in and stay comfortable while filling the void spaces. Next remove the ear pads from the housing or mounting plate if the ear pro has this style. Using 3M double sided automotive tape add David Clarke gel pads to the ear cups. These mods make the ear pro a little heavier but it drastically improves hearing protection and the David Clarke gel pads are the most comfortable on the market. Both with or without glasses. I wear David Clarke intercom headsets for hours and hours and never have a comfort problem as long as they have the gel pads.
This is next level, my wife is going to hate I can "mod" ear pro too. 😅
Just ordered a pair of the ISO DEFY Slim BT and there are a set of gel cushions available and when ordered together the cushions were discounted 50%
Ear protection is one of the most frustrating things I have dealt with because only one has been effective for my seemingly deformed head to get a tight fit. So I have these ugly-ass bulky cheapos that make me look like Princess Leia from Star Wars. I decided it's better to save my hearing than to look cool.
Have you tried gel cups?
@@Ariinui_ - Yes I did. The sound was still so loud it gave me headaches.
You don’t actually need any form of ear pro to protect your hearing. A trick I found at the range is saying “lalala I can’t hear you lalala” to mitigate earring loss.
Function over form
Maybe try in ear electronic hearing protection (the ones that go inside your ear instead of over your head, form a seal with your ear canal instead of your head). Apparently it's gotten really good
One reason you want electronic vs passive earpro is that you don't want to be lifting one off your ear to hear someone talk, and that's the time the guy 5 yards away shoots a 300 win mag with a brake. I use Peltor Tac 500 muffs (26 NRR + bluetooth). I wear them shooting but also woodworking; routers, circular saws, table saws, etc can be extremely loud.
Indeed - remember 30 years ago with passive only, and it was a headache during training at ranges.
My preferred hearing protection would get me 10 years minimum per the NFA
Thankful theyre keeping us safe 👍
You are so right it frustrates me. Like some countries require rifle users to have them but legal gun owners in America get treated like they wanted a full auto.
I’m confused what hear protection are you referring to?
@@Spinach_Dip93 I think a silencer.
I have Walker, Act Fire and Peltor - all for more than 4 years. I use the Peltor about 90% of the time. They're my favorite by far.
Walker Razor are great and I changed the foam pads and put gel pads on them. It feels great and seals around my glasses.
Agreed, I use the razors as well, about 40ish dollars last time I bought em, and have been happy with them for the few years I had em, and I have a few pairs for backups. Quantity has a quality all its own.
If you have the money for the Gucci gear, great, but I can’t see spending 10 x the money for 10% improvements, and to each their own.
I got those Peltor 100s in late spring of 2016/17. That was when I first started getting into shooting on my own. I went to the range last week (late summer 2024), and the cover around the foam was finally starting to crack apart.
Hence why I'm watching this video, seeing if now is a good time to upgrade.
3M failed the troops in their issued earplugs, but those 100s have been pretty fantastic for the past 7-8 years I've had them. Battery life long enough that it's never been an issue for me - change them once a year or so. I go to the range for a couple hours every few months, and my job requires requals every 6 months.
I mostly shoot at indoor ranges, but have never had issues with wind noise the times I was outside.
They've always been fairly comfortable, and my head is on the larger side of average - 7¾" hat size.
Artillery, machine guns, and barracks fire alarms have done a number on my hearing, and I still wear earplugs when using these. But the volume is still good enough that I haven't had any issues hearing other people talk while I have them on.
For the money, they really are fantastic. If you're new to shooting or want/need good and cheap hearing protection, these are a great option.
Edit to say:
I went with the Peltor 500 series.
He doesn't show them here, but I really do like the 100s, and the 500s are only $140-150. They offer much better protection at 26 db
For those who don't know, decibels are measured on a logarithmic scale. Each 1 greater decibel is 10x louder than the decibel before. So an increase in +4, 5, or 6 dbs (or whatever you're comparing them too) is a *significant* difference.
The 500s also have bluetooth. I don't imagine the purpose is for music or phone calls while actively shooting, but if someone calls you while your friend is taking their turn, or if you're loading mags while other people are shooting. Or maybe some hunters would appreciate being able to listen to something while sitting in a hunting blind all day. Or maybe it's for when you're mowing the lawn.
But either way, the 100s did me good for many years, so I just don't see why I shouldn't get the 500s as an upgrade.
My MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X ear muffs have lasted me over 12 years. Expensive, but worth it. The Safariland muffs should be good, too. I used to know Neale Perkins, the original owner of Safariland. Everything they make is of high quality.
Would you agree imri that there not loud enough tho. Because mine arnt loud enough
Are you talking about the amplification? Mine is better than my old Peltors.
@@dtna no I can hear everything amazingly but it’s just not loud enough in my ear. Mine are 6 years old ish
@@thedonuteater5474you need to get the new ones that are updated with hear 2, there are different sound profiles
Had a pair of Peltor ComTac III’s and tried to get the repaired when one of the speakers died. 3M (acquired Peltor a few years ago) not only wouldn’t warranty them but wouldn’t offer ANY service for the $600+ professional grade muffs. Also no offer for any kind of discount for a replacement. Switched to Sordin’s and will never go back. I will take every opportunity to warn people off of 3M/Peltor.
If you really want great eat protection go to an audiologist and have them custom make in the ear plugs to your ears. That has been my go to for 20 years and they are exceptional.
How much decibel reduction do you get with custom ear plugs?
@@BruceCross apparently a lot, because I don’t think he heard your question!😂
@@harveymanfrantinsingin7373 Hs!
Sordin has a great costumer service here in Europe if the product fail. From the start there is a 5 year warranty, and they stand by it.
Electronic walkers are just fine never fail me for years and for the price is awesome
I got a pair of electronic walkers last year. They were on sale at Bass Pro Shop. I was disappointed to discover that they had no directionality to them. Everything sounds like it's from the same place. My cheap Earmor have better battery ports (easier to change, weather proofing) and have good sound direction to them. I wouldn't recommend Walkers.
I’ve been wearing Walker Quads for several years. They’re very good. I would recommend Walker.
No wonder your Sordins failed in three years, you beat the crap out of them every time you change the batteries! Be gentle caveman...touch it like you'd touch your own...Oh wait, your probably beating that into submission too.
Great job on the presentation! I love this channel. It feels like Ft. Bragg just watching.
My biggest complaint about hearing protection is firm pads pushing glasses into my head or allowing sound to 'leak'. That's the No. 2 reason I wear plugs and muffs. I'd pay Safariland's price if baby bottoms eliminate the ear-piece digging in.
ESS and potentially other manufacturers make "slim arm" eye pro made to address this issue
I use gel pad and are way more comfortable and seal around my glasses.
I have 2 pair of the msa sordins , my first pair is having issues, so I emailed SRS Tactical where I got them from and they said send them in we will take care of it. No problem at all. Second set is working beautifully. The battery issue does not have to be that hard. I turn the cup and bump the top against the fat of my hand it drops and falls out. The cups exterior is low profile which helps when getting down on my rifle. Overall a good set of earpro.
Good info here. I will say though, I have a large head and proportional ears and don’t run into the issues you have with ear cups. For everyone saying “walkers are fine” sure, they make fun shots quieter and you can hear stuff otherwise. The Sordins are a completely different experience. Can’t even be used in the same conversation. They don’t have the on/off “mic keying” feel with dead amplified air in the back ground. Walkers drove me nuts. I rarely used the active listening. It’s terrible. Sordins and the like are seamless. They only cancel out above a certain dB and it doesn’t have a switching effect. It’s not just about the audio quality. They are significantly more comfortable than others I’ve tried over the many years of shooting. It was tough to fit them in the budget, but knowing what I do now, I should have bought them way sooner. Worth the price.
I use Peltor Sport Tactical 500's on an indoor range every day, and have used them for phone calls while running the range vacuum, at the same time the adjacent bay was firing. Before the trolls start, not even a 50cal can punch thru the divider wall, and the shooter would have to walk 5 feet backward to shoot around the wall... and it's not a public range.
But back to the muffs... I can't say enough good things about them.
I just got a pair of the 500's for Xmas from the Mrs. I was using Walker's and they were uncomfortable as hell. How are they holding up for you? I was a little leary because of all the electronics in them but I really like the Bluetooth feature so I figured why not try it.
I just bought a pair of Peltor Tac 500 via Amazon. The first pair arrived as obvious return from a previous customer (batteries installed, no packaging or instruction booklet) and looked a little beat, so back they went. Replacement pair arrived in a thin paper shipping envelope with the packaging smashed up (but also previous return item with packaging put back together with Scotch tape and the back flap torn off). They are going back ASAP.
I wondered about ordering from different vendors..... Seems the Tactical 500 has been discontinued and maybe I saved myself some grief. Gonna look into the Sordins....maybe.
I use Peltor Tactical XP. in to 8 years. Love em.
A litle more cash But woth it.
Some people have trouble with pushing them away with rifles - I have a strange shootingstyle, so No problems.
Before that I did use Peltor Kids, Good and good price! 🙂
I have the Sordin. Great for taking an afternoon nap in, too.
Just came across this video. Thank you very much for posting & for doing the Research for us. I appreciate your opinion. Be safe. Best wishes.
The best thing about the video is the background 🔥🔥
What about the Noise Reduction Ratings (NRR)
The Safarilands are amazing however I might wind up picking up a pair of Sordins just to be able to connect it to auxiliary for music or comms if I ever decide to go down that rabbit hole
I have the Pro Ears Gold and the plastic head band broke on me after a few uses. The bright side is they sell the replacement so it wasn't a total loss. The quality is Ok but I would not buy another one. I would recommend getting an ear pro that have metal headband.
I bought the Safariland Liberator and it's Ok and doesn't seal well with eye pro and I have to use an additional ear plug when shooting indoor. The positive is you can use either CR123 or AAA battery. However, it can be challenging to get the CR123 battery out. This ear pro does feel rugged. You can buy an option to change the headband too.
I also have the Sordin Supreme Pro X. It also feels rugged and seals the best out the three that I have. With this one, I found that I didn't need to wear additional ear plug when I was shooting indoor. I agree that the AAA can be a challenge to remove. So far, I like this ear pro the best.
Thanks for the review Imri.
I’m always looking for better ear protection. When I shoot my rifles, it is not always great with setting up behind the scope
Any opinion on the directional microphones from the Sordins? I don't see this mentioned in many reviews, and I would think this would be a pretty nice feature.
I have the Peltor Sport 100's and I'm surprised I don't see them around more often. Great price to performance option. I did eventually get the gel pads. Huge game changer for any ear muffs!
What gel pads did you go with? I was gonna get a set of the Peltor Sport 100's but was told the ear pads aren't changeable. If that's not the case then I'll be picking some up then.
I prefer the 3m 300 and 500 series. 500 if you need bluetooth and 300 if you want to go cheaper. They are both much better than the 100 because they don't cut the audio completely. They cut the high DBS and leave the low end so that you can still hear speech better even when there are shots going off. And don't forget gel cups. They will take any shitty passive ear pro and make em all day comfortable.
I’ve got the 500’s, and they are awesome for everything. But yes get gel cups.
I like the sound and comfort of the 3m 300/500, but prefer the size of the walker razor slim. The comfort isn't bad on the walkers either
i had the 300’s and loved them but the sordin supreme pro x are the tits
@@mojo_dojo_ i would love to put tits on my ears where do it sign up?
@@mojo_dojo_ I have both. They are both good. I wear the sordins more because of form factor being slimmer. And I think they are also louder so I can hear more when doubled up ear pro. The 300’s I feel has a bigger ear cup to surround my ear with more room.
I just did my first training class and my active Walkers hurt my ears so bad and when I’m doing filming I get bad static. Great suggestions here for nicer headsets and not just sponsored marketing BS like every other list online.
Can someone convince me to ever trust 3M Peltor brand after their hearing protection left thousands of people with damaged hearing because of bad product which resulted in $6 BILLION legal settlement by 3M ?? Did they completely revamp their design and can their quality control be trusted?
Pretty sure that lawsuit was because of the earplugs not peltors my guy
It was earplugs that the lawsuit covered.
One type of earplugs. Most of their products are quality. I think the model was specific or designed for specificly the gubermint though sold to others.
@@Anarcho-harambeism you people are dolusional, you think the same company wont scam you?
@googleslocik seeing as it was a single type of earbud among the dozens used and from a different department than the over ear designers. Yes. And also the fact that the ear buds used and that had issues, where from over 20 years ago now...
And 3m would rather not have to pay 6 BILLION out again, that was quite the hit for the company.
Are you going to a video about difference over over ear and in ear hearing pro?
I’m struggling with over ear that gives a good seal because of my odd head shape, yet prefer to double up if using inner ear pro because of bone conduction.
You don't have big ears if schoolmates never called you "Dumbo".
The Peltors sound great, unfortunately they are built cheaply. I've had 3, and the all break in the same place, right on the inside of the headband where the muffs fold inwards. it's an area held together by plastic plates and steel phillips head screws. Terrible! If peltor refines that area, they'd easily be my go to!
Great video
Thanks for the visit
I had the same Problem with the Sordins after being on hold for almost 2hrs I was offered a 10% off discount
Karl can you make a video about the military watches? Which you were using during your army career?
Honestly, G-shocks are a go to. Decent priced and takes a beating. It's probably the most common. However, there are others. Luminox, Hamilton and Marathon. I have a few Marathons I won't part with. It will depend on your MOS. But I've also worn Omega and a Rolex.
From my experience Casio is the best. Don't look only thd G-Shock series even the simple models can take a tone of beating and water and sand for as less as 20 bucks. Don't buy a SEALs watch if you are not going to dive 60 m under the sea.
40. 00 Caldwell and Howard light plugs, both if I'm indoors and next to someone with a 50 cal. 😂
The so drinks are great. I bought the ops cor as well, but it’s almost impossible to make to switch work to turn them on, and while the sound quality is a bit better, it’s not by much.
There's lots of good passive >25+ nrr for $20 and under.
If you’re looking for passive, good quality plugs are around 33 NRR and cost about $.25!
You cannot mount the sordins to a helmet without completely dismantling them. They have a “slim” model and a thick ear cup model, that is helmet compatible
Thank you for making this video.
My pleasure!
i love my msa sortins 10 yrs running
Impact Sports FTW
Wish you to mention batteries and re-chargeable batteries or maybe it’s just plug it in and recharges would’ve been helpful information
I have Walkers and the rubberized coating got sticky after a couple of years because of the tropical humidity I live in.
Great video; thanks for producing it. I'd love to see a video on different earpro that accommodate comms systems. I'd like to upgrade, and I'm not sure what's worth the coin.
Fwiw, 13:30 "This is like a baby's butt around your ear; it's super, super comfortable." Really? A baby's butt around my ear doesn't SOUND comfortable, but I'm willing to keep an open mind. 😀👍
I cant find any ear pro that I can stil ADS with a rifle
Did he say he stores AAA’s in the freezer???
Batteries last longer if you put them in the fridge
@@thruntroll2983 i’m not really sure why people think that. I’m pretty sure that’s a myth because, every time you take a camera flash that runs on batteries, outside in the winter… Your recycle time goes up by about five times and the battery life goes down by about half.
Sorin Pro x LED has here in Germany 5 years of warranty.
What is the Noise Reduction Rating for these devices (NRR). You failed to include any significant information. How they look will NOT save your hearing. Were they effective for you. You mentioned that the Sorodins were hard to hear, and shallow on the ear cavity.
He said several different times that they are all effective at their main purpose, hearing protection, and he is right. No point comparing logarithmic-derived numbers when they all do the same thing in that category. Common sense says that these companies can't afford to not protect your hearing, they'd be sued to no end.
Are there any “active” in ear buds that provide the same level of protection as over the ear?
I’ve been using the Axil’s for a few years now and they’ve been great. I haven’t shot anything above a .308 with a muzzle brake but I’ve been a fan. Much more comfortable than over the ear.
do the Safariland fit better than Sordin? My Sordins do not cover my lower ear lobe. Theyre too short even at max extension. No other earpro is that short on me. Thx!!
Don’t see the link for the Safariland Liberator
Perfect timing. I need some new ear pro. Thx guys!
Our pleasure!
Most Walkers do have passive hearing just not that exact model however the ones that have it are only like $40-$120 at Academy depending on model and they have various models there so if you're as tired as I am of amazons stupidity then I'd just go to academy
Are gel pads available for these?
I bought sordins from optics planet and they arrived broken. So i ended up buying comtac vs and they rule
Good info Imiri!....I never noticed how big your ears are! 😅😢
When I mow the lawn I put my earbuds under my walkers
Where would the Axil brand stand on this list?
The axil are like the walker razers with better directional sound identification. Practically identical sound quality just much better directional awareness. The axil also come with gel cushions unlike the walkers.
Nice run down.
He had the highest opinion on the 3M's because they already paid his hearing lawsuit settlement. Lucky!
no Safari land link?? why say your gonna add it if your not? beats me.
Yep. Take care of the ears.
Thanks brother....
Welcome
Good job M-or-E loved the terminology like baby’s ass and kick a puppy And no F-Bombs Ill chose the sordins and drop an F-Bomb when paying but enjoy them after
Where the M32s?
Amp's from Ops-core? 😉
🤣 I use sony XM5s ifor indoor and outdoor, works well.
Sir, I do believe your ears are a bit on the larger size
Oh dear, it must be so sad and frustrating every 600 hours to get the batteries out. Sounds like over whining to me
Lmao yeah
WHAT!?
Turn on your ear pro. 😂
Seems to me decimal reduction is more important than looks. How could you do a video without addressing noise reduction??? Try again.
Walkers are trash. The battery door is weak and the band is for the largest of heads only.
So finally I found a reason to have a big head thanks for the info
Dude your ears are huge! lol Mine are bigger like elephant ears! lol To make it worse I can't use any in ear because they are shaped weird! I wish someone made some like the old Sony Walkman a sideways disc because that is the shape of my inner ear not round!
Not a fan of headphones or total ear cover but these are pretty Sharp
Better for your hearing as the skull bone transfers the sound waves if u only wear plugs.
@@Dave-z1p I use old school orange ear plugs. I never go to an indoor range.
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Watch out, Saddam on your 6.
the peltors suck.
Sordin customer care is useless
Budget? There should be no budget. As someone who experienced severe tinnitus despite foam plugs which i thought were sufficient at a recent visit to the range, I can assure anyone this expense is more important than ANY other aspect of your set up. I was naive. Do your research, and get the best. Period end of story. The alternative when you absolutely lose the top end of your hearing is terrifying. I didn't even realize the effect until after the session was over. If its a one time trauma, your ears will recover, hopefully, but holy hell was it a wake up call.
Rad..🤙🏻..
Btw: Dudes should never, EVER say sexy when Speaking of such things.it’s cruddy/creepy/raspy… Not sure who started it on Gun channels but Dude..It’s Cringe…
Peltor sprotac is the best, but has the cable easily borken under tropical climate constant use 🥲
after breaking like 2 of them and lost 1 over the past 10 years, I just use $15 passive peltor
Every single gun person seems to joke about being deaf does that mean none of this hearing protection actually works
Na probably because we all grew up shooting without ear plugs I know I hunted ducks without it and I mean it came in handy when the ol lady is blabbering 😅
Surprised that Ops-Core Amp wasn't on the list as the most premier one or one of the most highly rated earpro.
Those are next level gucci💀💀
Probably because they are fragile as hell. I know they are marketed as duty use, but they are not duty use. Get peltor or sordin for good audio quality and durability.
I've got and will use Sordin, Safariland, and Peltor-Comtac all w/gel cups. Safariland are my latest and all three work great. The other two I've had for years. Gel cups can/will eventually tear and need replacing, btw. The Sordins battery compartment is a little annoying as to how the batteries go in or out. A small screwdriver or tool is good to have for battery changes with the Sordins, but as mentioned in the video, batteries can last a week or a month at least, depending on much the ear pro is being used.
How do you get a seal around your ear wearing glasses and a hat? No matter what I try nothing seals unless I remove the glasses and hat. Very frustrating
A million subscribers this year my brother keep up the good work you doing.
I appreciate that
I really enjoyed my razor digital with some aftermarket gel pads, but sadly the last time I took them out of the case and replaced the batteries they never powered back on :(
I like everything about my sordin supreme Multicam ear pro except for the price
I'd say Peltor warranty is as bad as Sordin's. I've had Peltors shit the bed (actually the hard plastic bodies literally started to disintegrate, something wrong with that batch of plastic), in-warranty, reached out to Peltor, THEY failed to respond entirely, and when I followed up a handful of months later they came back with telling me to F right off because the warranty ran out.
Fire full power rifles and 12 gauge shotguns with no ear protection at all like a man and enjoy the symphony 🗣️🗿
Gel cup if you wear for longer than an hour. You are welcome!
Does anyone have the NRR list for these?
Got the Peltor ComTac XP1 myself, and would only pick those or perhaps a Sordin for those that have slightly less demand on the headset of heavy use (Peltor handle down to -44 degrees Celsius, we get -35 deg here).
If only buying one, buy Safariland (better battery replacement; newer design electronics). Peltor (too expensive nowadays). Sordin (ok, but battery replacement is a PITA; otherwise pricing and availability via Amazon is good; I'm going on 10 yrs with Sordin but using the Safariland and Peltor too).
Walkers are cheap, uncomfortable, and break seal during a cheek weld. Please do not use them, i have permanent hearing loss shooting ars with them
Great info as always! Love ya gents!!!
Our pleasure!
a shooting buddy was in Iraq, got a house over him,,, his Sordins (and he) survived! 😀
If unity sparks were in stock I would get another pair of sordins and mount them to my helmet smh