Chess Legend And Putin Critic Garry Kasparov On Why Russia Will Lose In Ukraine | Forbes
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Former World Chess Champion Garry Kasparov sat down with Forbes Assistant Managing Editor Diane Brady at the 2023 Milken Institute Global Conference to discuss topics from Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the growing concern over artificial intelligence.
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He’s right about democracy being fragile and needing to be protected. Americans are taking it for granted
Like the 'democracy' in Ukraine? Oh wait...
Americans don't even have a real democracy.
Problem is just under 50% of Americans support Theocrats. These people would rather support Russia than a Democrat. These fools would sellout their country out of hate for Democrats
democracy is easily manipulated by corporatocracy, by means of manufacturing consent, polarization, propaganda, etc.. with enough grip over media, public opinion can be easily manipulated, therefore as such democracy is an illusion
Many Americans take democracy for granted. But the problem is that many MOST democracies don't want to be part of this war., which might become bigger. All they can do is help Ukraine with some weapons only.
I am so proud that this man and a genius live today in my Croatia...love him!
Prije 2 tjedna sam završio s čitanjem njegove knjige 'Zima dolazi' iz 2015. godine. Svakako bih ti preporučio.
Croatia 🇭🇷 is beautiful country 😍
Lol…
It is not yours ❤
@@Readytogogo yes,it is 😘
It is so refreshing to listen to somebody with a very high IQ and ability to critically assess complex situation
He talks 100% propaganda. Just look at his speeking fees. Do you think that if he would not speak against Russia he would get those fees in the Usa? Corruption works on high Iq people too.
@@csuporjHe talks 100% stuff a Putin-lover like you does not want to hear.
How do you know the iq of this man?
@@csuporj Yea sure, forget about the logical content of his words, forget that he has always been pro-democracy and look at his "speaking fees". In your alternate world, you cannot fathom anyone telling Putin to stop invading his neighbor without propaganda. I will not be surprised if you are typing from Olgino.
@@marcoobin4571 He wants to send the poor who own nothing to die in war to defend the money of the millionaires. That is a textbook example of propaganda.
A great man. The planet needs people like him.
He was beaten by 'deep blue'
planet has plenty of people like this they dont come forward because of the uneducated big mouths and those oppinions! why paint a target on yourself?
The planet doesn't need more people like him..... We need to be more like him! Make the change the world needs! We all need to be more like him!
@@koenraad4618I guess you won against it
You are wrong we Americans are not taking Democracy for granted. And after Russia "attacked" Ukraine for the sake of Democracy we Americans understand it better now. Russians simply want to eliminate (democratically!) Kiev regime who put a band on all Russian: Language, Culture and even Church.
Kasparov is a good man. He understands Putin...I wish the collective West would listen.
Yes, Kasparov predicted Putin would invade Ukraine twice. Conservative historian Neil Ferguson also predicted both invasions.
A bit too late. As an eastern European I was watching Ukraine/Russia "relationship" with great worry for years. Long before 2014, maybe since the very beginning. I never understood why the West believed it was ok to be lenient...
@@caroline4323they thought Russia was a democracy, which in Hindsight couldn't be farther from the truth
A chess genius and a very clever individual. He delivered a blunt message to the West and he is 150% right about it. He is also 150% right about his struggles and the Russian psychopaths ruling a wonderful country.
Lost respect for him when he started to spread obvious fake news around 2016 that some Russian outlet published WikiLeaks article before WikiLeaks, suggesting a connection (totally moronic understanding of reality). Later on, he has been a very firm fake news and propaganda spreader.
we all need politicians more like him.... better as a person... and smart.
Gary is such an intelligent man. I love to listen to him when interviewed. I wish the US would listen to people like him and Ben Hodges when it comes to the war in Ukraine and the support necessary to save the innocent lives of Ukrainians.
At Arbat pedestrian street in Moscow there is a picture of the children of Donbass, aged 3 to 12, who are hiding in the cellars and basement of their houses from Ukrainian shells.
@@musicclassic5938 The Hague is waiting for putler and his war criminal cronies.
@@musicclassic5938 have you always been a ruZZist fascist or did you become one later in life??
There are also many posters implying ruZZia is denazifying Ukraine.
Yet the only Nazis in Ukraine wear russian uniforms!
🫡 Slava Ukrainii
GARY IS AWESOME
... and Timothy Snyder!
Mrs. Diane Brady, respectfully, there is no need to add the world "the" before Ukraine. Ukraine is a country, a nation, not a region, not a territory, it is a sovereign country.
How can it be a ‘sovereign’ country when another country is telling it what to do for at least 9 years?
When someone has nothing intelligent to reply with, they resort to personal attacks. How about start doing some research on your own and stop following mainstream media.
@J. L. Kale not going to make it - one of those ones who shower in ignorance
Yes, exactly, the AP-style hasn't use "the" with Ukraine in over 30 years.
she doesn’t have the IQ to effectively hold an intelligent conversation with Kasparov. I kept rolling my eyes as she interrupted him
Great interview - Kasparov is a shinning example of the best of the Russian people. Also great job by Diane Brady.
He is a Jews propaganda aggeinst the Othodox Russia
I would argue that Kasparov does not represent any Russian people at all. And he is sure not the best.
@@IliyaOsnovikov Best people in history get recognised only when dead and this man will be a shining example in Russian history. Unlike you..
@@IliyaOsnovikovWhy? Because he speaks the painful truth? That too is part of growing up...but anyone, who argues against the Russian dictatorship, is seen by you Russians as a scoundrel and enemy agent...your mentality is exactly the same as it was in Stalin's time...not much has developed or changed.
Kasparov was always right about Putin. He is monster and must be stoped.
Makes me very proud he is a Croatian citizen for years now...
Dictators lie about the past but tell the truth about their future plans is a great observation.
.... with a few exceptions for tactical maneuvers like Putin claiming, in February 2022, that the RF would not invade Ukraine.
True
Brilliant observation
He predicted everything 🏆♟
Much ongoing respect to Kasparov, and his insights. I was also very impressed with how well prepared Diane Brady was for the interview. Not many interviewers could do such a good job. Kudos to Ms. Brady, and Forbes.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
More like the blood of plebs.
strict adherence to a constitution that enacts a division of independent powers that defend the rights of the minority, of individuals, and upholds and interprets the law.
Richard, Freedom in Ukraine??? Orthodox Christian church banned, priests imprisoned, all opposition political parties forbidden, strict press censorship, non-Ukrainian language forbidden in schools, males dragged off the streets into the front lines with no due process, and the worst government corruption in all of Europe. This Ukro trash pile is not worth the death of ONE American.
Freedom ? When US forces and threaten other nations to obey US orders , how do you call that ? Im sure is not freedom and democracy
This : "... democracy does not exist without participation .."
Gary is the greatest chess player of all time!
And very low politician, isn't it ?
@@tokyo.peking Learn english, then talk.
@@F1Motivation
So, you're soooo stupid to comprehend those six words?
@Developing Media you cry and spread Russian misinformation everywhere hey sheep!
@jasperpercabeth9140 If ask Magnus, he will tell you. Gary is the GOAT!
I was a Karpov supporter Gari but everything else regarding you hat down. I know Karpov had the Soviet machinery behind him. I guess if I knew your views back than I would have been your great supporter as I am now . All the best good man!!!!
You are wrong we Americans are not taking Democracy for granted. And after Russia "attacked" Ukraine for the sake of Democracy we Americans understand it better now. Russians simply want to eliminate (democratically!) Kiev regime who put a band on all Russian: Language, Culture and even Church.
@@mishaknopkin2199 ban? You know for sure? Cause i am fairly certain that even in Ukrainian military russian is used a lot. :D
A great man. Super intelligent. A humanist too. Best chess player that ever lived is only my opinion. The struggles he met. His imagination. Yes-this planet needs people like him, but not enough people are listening what he has been saying for years. Winter is coming is a brilliant book.
This interview must be seen by every politician in civilized countries. He says this simple and painful truth, and he is 100% right.
As Elon Musk said, he may be almost as good at chess as his iPhone, otherwise he's an idiot. I lost respect for him when he started to spread obvious fake news around 2016 that some Russian outlet published WikiLeaks article before WikiLeaks, suggesting a connection (totally moronic understanding of reality). Later on, he has been a very firm fake news and propaganda spreader.
Wise words. Wise man.
Garry was the #1 rated chess player for 22yrs starting in 1984. His FIDE chess rank is the 2nd highest ever, behind only Magnus. This guy is a genius.
and many a chess genius have gone insane
Not a political genius !
He should stick to what he knows best.
May be, but a genial genuine hero, risking his life everyday for the dream of freedom in Russia and the whole world coming real.
It's because he is Jewish and Jews are very smart.
Genuis whose mind went to pot.
I agree 100% with this Genius.
С бывшим гением мирового уровня. Вы согласны с бывшим гением мирового уровня!
Очевидно, на данный момент Великий и Ужасный, прекрасно болтая по телевизору, ничего не может, кроме как без конца говорить!
По мнению профессора Савельева, который работает в Институте мозга и морфологии России, гений описен тем, что может обмануть так, что и никто не поймёт.
Безусловно, вот Гарри, хитро улыбаясь, вас всех и обманул, поскольку за это ему отлично платят!
Ааах, Вы просто не можете представить, сколько заработал Каспаров, отрицательно критикуя Владимира Путина! 😱
Thank you very much! We'd love to hear an exchange between Garry Kasparov and Vlad Vexler.
Gary is much sharper philosophers need to be isolated for their ideas to hold weight
This man is amazing!
The greatest political genuine, he predicted everything about Putin long ago
You mean "greatest political genius...."
What a great man ,Russia needs leaders like him,what’s the chances though ???
Chances? Slim to none I'm afraid.
Slim to none because he’s a western sellout
A most excellent interview with Garry Kasparov. I found myself agreeing with almost everything that he said. What I found most enlightening was his stance on AI. If I would have guessed I would have thought he would have been AI unfriendly. It shows that he thinks with his intellect and not his feelings. It's refreshing to see a Russian standing up for what is right. I salute you sir.
He is not russian though
Impressive and spot on. Thanks Garry Casperov for your insight and outspokenness.
I read Kasparov's book five years ago, and he was already warning what might happen.
I wish our leaders would start listening, and give Ukraine everything it needs to win. Not drip-feeding. EVERYTHING. NOW.
I love Garry Kasparov. Actually, he should lead Russia.
Lol, only Russians should choose and he is very unpopular. You should find out why.
@@AlexP-jz9sg Russians haven't been able to choose freely for years. I don't think anyone can find out what or who is or isn't popular there because of its propaganda machine who will tell us all what to think.
However, the propaganda machine will diminish his character of course and they will throw him out of the country. Therefore we will never know what he could have done for Russians and Russia.
@@AlexP-jz9sgBecause of state propaganda?
the problem is he is too American now, he speak another language culturalwise . Even though he is definitely much better that the Putin, practically he won't be on his place ever because he won't find any support. Maybe if he is allowed and will be working with the public he could manage to speak relatable with Russians
@@l.h.3586 As a Russian, I can say why. There are several reasons but major one is Kasparov doesn't have much recognition even among the anti-Putin side. Reason is that he doesn't use UA-cam, which is the main source of information for many Russians. Before big interview with Yuri Dud(7 millions views) and the video about his political activities by Maxim Katz, I and many other Russians in the anti-Putin camp didn't know about his activities outside of chess. Before imprisonment, Navalny was the biggest leader in the opposition that everyone would agree to follow. Now, the FBK (Navalny team that doesn't want to unite or сommunicate), Khodorkovsky, and Maxim Katz.
An example of lucidity and courage
Very real courage, because Putin tends to kill other Russians criticizing him.
Putin has very openly stated that he considers any such Russians traitors.
I think the main reason why Kasparov is still alive is that Putin does not consider him powerful enough to take seriously.
Kasparov is impressive. I can listen and LEARN from him all day.
Yes, but his books are very hard to read, they are all over the place.
I admire his bravery
lol what? how a chess player may know about politics more than a plumber? western propaganda is reducing to a real circus
Это безумие, этот чел есть мошенник на самом высоком уровне, использует США для собственного обогащения!
Smart and brave guy- and I hear he's pretty good at chess!
Pretty good? he is many times world chess champion
@@reynaldojuan6454
Whooosh...!
You missed it 😁
What an absolute legend, and, so inspiring just to hear him talking. He is very lucid and is just spitting some truth
Long live Ukraine 🇺🇦
Where is Ukraine going, your family is fighting there. Karma karma will get you and your family 👪 dead souls of dead Slavic people will get you..
I support that, from Texas USA .
It’s alway great to see Gary
"The" Ukraine is a misnomer when speaking of Ukraine as a sovereign country. Using "the" before Ukraine is what Putin wants you to do. It implies that Ukraine is a region of Russia, and not a sovereign state in its own right. Please correct and drop this old habit.
Ah yes, the pretention of being above the pettiness of this world, and putting oneself in the position of moral scold.
…yes, like The Netherlands. This isn’t a common thing neither amongst Putin nor most Russian speakers I’ve ever heard in general..the fact that Americans and westerners think this is is straight outta naz-da-roviya….a reference you probably won’t get. Such confident cultural stupidity is a gift to putin…
Gary has an astute intuition about opponents in a match. The first high rank Russian to lose to code, in fact.
Garry Kasparov is absolutely brilliant … a shining light
Great interview, fascinating guest and range of subject matter.
The legend Garry Kasparov himself - always nice to listen to him.
In Chess, the Goat could be debatable, but in Politics, definitely the GOAT of Chess is Garry Kasparov, for this endless effort of fight against Putin and his evil regime.
And Biden's regime is all virtue?
And what's the fruit of this vain fighting? I don't see why Putin's regime is worse than the evil Biden's regime or Macron's regime. France is on fire and endless strike against his evil regime.
What did he achieve in Politics to be an expert on the Ukraine invasion issue?
@@jazzffer True, Garry should better open a chess school in the US, which he has probably done.
Only a very tiny minority of Russian would vote for Kasparov. He is way too compromised with the west intelligence services.
Great interview, I agreed with everything Mr. Kasparov said.
When you're right, you're right... Can you imagine the world with President Kasparov at the helm in the Kremlin? What a vision!
As an American I would be equally happy with him in the Whitehouse or the Kremlin.
I will write a begging letter to him to come to Germany into the Kanzleramt!
A proof that chess will not make you grateful.
He will be Yelstin 2
@@LearnWithVikram7 He is nothing like Yeltsin.
Определённо, место президента - это давняя мечта Гарри, однако русский народ, мыслящий трезво, никогда больше не будет выбирать на выборах нерусского!
Kasparov is as great a champion for democracy and human rights as he is in chess. I salute him.
Great and courageous man ! what a blessing for us all he is !!
As a political analist, Kasparov is an excelent chess player!
When I was a young man I used to smile at the American stories about some crazy tyrants, but everything with Putin came true 😂😂😂
It's been terrible since forever in Russia/Soviet. They started to move in the right direction with Gorbachev, but the drunk lunatic after him made a u-turn, and even worse with Putin.
@@l.h.3586 Compared to the bare chested geopolitician, Yeltsin was an angel.
@@l.h.3586Yeltsin was literally sponsored by the USA.
@@earthandwind820Sponsored? You mean the West gave aid to Russia to help them Modernize? The aid which Yeltsin burnt to fuel his re election campaigns and electoral fraud?
@@earthandwind820 As was most all that helped russia survive the onslaught of the 3rd Reich such as most all of their industry/metallurgy which enabled them to build the tanks & guns for ww2 and of course the gift of lend-lease without which they had been facing the reich with a handful of Mosin-Nagant rifles and a tsar pushka. The lack of due gratitude by russian hordes is atrocious, isn't it! Talk about trying to bite the hand that feeds you....
i like that guy talk ,such people are required at the helm of Russia to change things according to me......
Totally agree with Garry. Russia needs people like him in the Kremlin.
Russia needs Garry's intellect for sure, but not his liberal ideas.
USA needs Whiate hause to be Black
@@musicclassic5938 Why not? Let's not forget that leaders such as Peter the Great or Catherine the Great were considered as more liberal during their rules compared to previous monarch and brought many Western/European liberal ideas to Russia.
@@coconut7490 Peter The Great? The same guy that tourted and executed his own son?
@@joco8290 I mean he's still consider highly even if he did bad things, Catherine treated her son badly too just what monarch did back then.
Great interview. Thanks for having him on.
He is absolutely right about everything,Putin must go #1
Colonist neo nazi where are you going?😢
Senile Joe must go #1
Kasparov is a zionist agent of chaos. He is arguably the most hates man in Russia. His dream is for Russia to totally fall apart in 20 pieces and all its natural wealth sold to western anglo saxxon companies such as exxon mobile and shell. He fails to mention how US never gave help to Russia like they did to poland and how Russia from 92-2000 was wild west with poverty crime and living age droped to 55, it was the darkest period arguably in their history since 1918. Never trust Kasparov
@@musicclassic5938 you know about music?? There are composers and performers. Biden is not the unique writer of his speeches or strategist of his military. He is a puppet of military leaders behind him.
@@musicclassic5938 your onto it . . .
Garry Kasparov, you are a fine human being!!!
Incredible. Genius. Chapeau!
Garry is fabulous.
I wish western mainstream media would give this great and wise man a platform.
Slava and victory for Ukraine✌️
Slava to Ukraine from Croatia
Brave man.
Great person!
Kasparov - Respect!!!
Okay, nazi soybot
Mr. Kasparov is a very wise man. We should listen to him carefully.
Respect, Mr. Kasparov
Respect in chess
Sounds like "Hunger Games" is one of the most insightful fresh comments I've heard about the evil empire.
This man is great tactician, he read and knows their move
I learn a lot from Gary Kasparovs' interviews.
This is what intelligence sounds like.
An intelligent gentleman
Chess master with exquisite insight into life - which is not a game. 🌹
The sleeper in Putin-analysis is history. Gary nicely picked up on this by likening Russia in 1991 to Germany in 1918. The echoes of the rise of Hitler are also clear to anyone who knows their history. The idea that someone robbed the great power of it's territory and dignity in a moment of weakness, that deep sense of shame and bitterness. The sense of grievance and desire to restore the great power to its rightful place. It's denial of the sovereignty and historical legitimacy of the successor states like Czechoslovakia for Hitler and Ukraine for Putin. The use of native language speakers in territories of the former imperial state was exactly the fact Hitler used to oppress his neighbours, all new democratic states, initially with politics, then militarily. Gary's observation about dictators lying about the past and being honest about the future is spot on. Let's not forget that Putin himself is obsessed by history. This interview deserves a wider audience.
A suggestion to Dianne: you interview well Dianne, but better to let Gary speak and use his own (second) language rather than interposing your believed paraphrase of what you think Gary is saying. Your persistent interjections when Gary mentioned stomach missed his point and the repetition almost derailed the interview. Otherwise, great work.
Gary's reference to the Russian "stomach" was clear enough to me, but I imagine that other listeners might have attributed to it the meaning that Dianne ascribed to the term. (E.g., not having the stomach for a fight....) So I think that it was fair for her to ask for confirmation of her interpretation; or maybe she perceived both possible meanings and was just anxious to clear up the ambiguity.
The comparisons between democratically elected Putin and Hitler are completely absurd. You want a dictatorship look at modern Ukraine that is being held captive by a puppet government after the 2014 coup that overthrew democratically elected President Yanukovych. Kasparov may be a chess master but he is also an extremist communist sympathizer and his comments about his homeland are disgusting.
THIS MAN IS TOO SMART FOR REGULAR RUSSIANS.
he's too stupid for even the stupidest Russian
Lets have Kasparov as the next president of Russia! He is highly qualified and perfectly suitable. A man of dignity and international respect. A bridge over troubled water!
Unfortunatelly the zombified majority of russians are million miles away from understanding the truths Kasparov stand for
Wonderful person!
Yea, the "wonderful person", who doesn't accept his own daughter, who has such a huge ego he did everything to win in chess when he was an active player, who betrayed his own Motherland, who is hated by Russians.
I think he was right about AI. When we think of AI we shouldn’t imagine Terminator because, not only is Terminator a piece of fiction, but a piece of fiction written by film producers who had no actual expertise in AI when they wrote it. How could they have any expertise? They wrote it back in 1984. The internet was still in its infancy and AI was a far off pipe dream at that point. My point is that very, very, very rarely are Hollywood films ever actually accurate representations of the concepts they are depicting. Real life Great Whites are not monsters like the shark in Jaws. Dinosaurs probably were not the roaring, ultra-aggressive, killing machines of Jurassic Park, and there’s no reason to assume or even suspect that AI will ever resemble anything like Sky Net.
Exactly right. A bunch of spoiled rich kids in the nepotistic clique called "Hollywood" making juvenile movies in California are definitely not the people to learn about things from, especially an emerging science like A.I., and I'd add that someone like Elon Musk, who is certainly not a scientist and didn't do the engineering that made him rich, is not one to learn from, either. When you actually learn about A.I. as I did in graduate school, it's hard to be frightened by what in reality is just another tool to do mathematical things like classification more quickly for whatever purpose. As the very wise Mr. Kasparov said, new technologies can be used for good and bad purposes, but A.I. is nothing like what people imagine.
He and Khodorkovsky are my go to when checking what goes on presently. He speaks fluent english should be interviewed more often to spread the information. Khodorkovsky needs to publish his video's with english subtitles.
The goat!
Last year in autumn he said that Russia will be kicked out from Ukraine by spring
Garry is great, a smart guy indeed.
Good talk, comes across as a decent man.
18:58 it is. Learning never stops.
Interesting interview, good to get his views.
It must be terribly painful for Garry Kasparov to see how the leadership in his native Russia has wasted so many young 'Garry Kasprov's'---young guys like him--- who could make something of their lives. The thing that makes me angry about Putin's war---as Chancelor Scholz calls it---is how he has been willing to sacrifice so many, many young Russians by sending them into battle under-equiped and poorly trained. That in itself should be a war crime...
Yeah, he should have started by arming and training rebels in the country for a coup THEN invaded calling it something fancy like War on Terror.
Would he critise US invasions also be as genuine as he is now while criticizing his own country
Does America respect Democracy
I share his perspective on Western persistence in questioning Putin will "back down", etc. It is as if they read nothing of Russian political doctrine and ideology, and hear nothing about Putin and other officials say. We seem to be intentionally self deluded, or stubborn and recalcitrant in our wishful thinking. Frustrating indeed.
My respect for this man has reached a new level
When I listen to Kasparov I remember why I never had any problems with intelligent people while I spent half of my life locking heads with the dumbar..es of the world who wanted to tell me, how arrogant it is to believe in your own judgement when everybody else is telling you otherwise... I love him (and his unforgettable chessplay!) - and he didn't loose against deep blue, they cheated, he knew it, they knew it. That's why they destroyed the log files immediately after the match...
Great interview!
Problem is these reporters aren't as studied as subjects so interviews aren't as rich as could be but good interview nonetheless. Her closest reference is the movie Hunger Games. She might read some or all those book titles mentioned in this interview on her next holiday.
Brilliant Man!
Germany's Merkel blew it big time. She was not smart at all.
Tried to make Germany great again with Russian energy but US wouldn't have it.
She should be on trial with Putin.
Respect.
With cost of “black gold” at 15-23 dollars per barrel, the USSR economy collapsed, and the sovok itself collapsed, and the "golden" horde ("russia") budget can only be fulfilled only with oil price at $ 42.4 and higher
Gary Kasparov is bang on the money here. The West must stand up to Russia. If anyone understands strategy it’s Kasparov. Respect!
Yes, because a chess player is the recommended person to give insights regarding military maneuvers...
He didn't give any insights into military maneuvers, maybe you should watch the video.
@@Djamonja I watched the whole video, and he makes many false claims, right at the start. The claims about the civillian attacks and the comparisons to hitler are just ridicolous. He claims that the war will not end until Putin is in power, which is false, it would probably escalate even further. And then claims that Russia will not retain it's current borders. Then, he makes bold claims about China...
@@LusoPatriot77 Every single thing you said is wrong. Russia attacks civilians every day. Who knows what would happen if Putin was out of power? I don't. And you don't. Russia probably wouldn't retain its current borders if Russia lost badly in Ukraine, and China would absolutely take advantage of any opportunity if Russia collapsed to retake parts of eastern Russia that they consider to be Chinese territories.
Listen to this man, the world should listen to this man and keep him safe, a true Russian patriot
Ukraine is winning while they are losing their skilled, experienced soldiers. Insane
They don't have any skilled, experienced soldiers. They're a collection of rabble
Freedom has a cost and so does slavery. Also insane.
Kasparov is much smarter than Putin.
Gary one ot the Greatest of all time. I could listen to him all day.
Great talk. I loved it.
Fear and interests... and we need not forget, "it's not my land"