I feel like I've been on a constant loop for a whole decade. I was at the start of highschool checking the page daily going "Oh man can't wait to play this on winter!" I'm almost in my mid 20's now bruh 💀
I do actually think they believed they were on track to hit the winter 2014 deadline for Mother 4(or at least close), but the whole rebrand screwed that up. A while ago one of the people who used to work on it came out and revialed on twitter how the rebrand hurt the development. A lot the people involved weren't exactly enthusiastic about the decisions and the things it could mean for the development of the game. Some were upset that they weren't working on a mother fan game any more, and some were worried about what it could mean for potentially monetizing the game. Although the project leads claim they'd keep it free there was still debate about if they should or not especially with how much work everyone put into it and some people thinking some kind of compensation would be nice. Regarless, a lot of the volunteers involved in the development jumped ship for their own reasons. That coupled with the huge undertaking that is going back and changing a lot of their already finished work probably slowed the already slow development to a crawl or even at times a complete hault. One of the reasons they gave for the rebrand was the mother IP being too limiting(not sure how true that is), but that also might imply the scope of the project could have changed. It's really hard to tell what really is going on at any one moment in time because updates are so few and far between, but the project is still likely being worked on. I think their most recent tweet is just a "hey we didn't forget about this game" kind of thing. I really hope it's hinting at an announcement in the near future, but honestly with how the development of this game has been going I doubt it :/.
I'm just saying the Oddity devs have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever, that being releasing the game in Winter 2024. If not then, then there's no hope
Scraping and restarting multiple times should not be a point of defense for the devs. They should’ve planned better so that they didn’t waste their and everyone else’s time. I’m sure at least one person who really wanted to play this game a decade ago has died waiting for this game to come out.
Give them a little credence, it can be hard to tell early on exactly where development was going to go. It could've been planned as a small project but once a larger vision started to come in, they needed to re-work things. I know a project that did exactly that, a smaller Visual Novel thing, which actually began around 2014. But for both of them, there's a certain amount of time for that credence, and we passed that years ago. Pick a vision and make it done already, or just don't.
@ nah, you need to get your team together and decide how large the scope of the project is gonna be from the get-go, otherwise you’re setting yourself up for being way overwhelmed and likely failure. I know it might seem cruel and judgemental to say they should know this before starting anything else, but think about it this way: why would you pour years and years of your time and effort into something you set yourself up to fail at when you could’ve been spending your precious limited time on this earth to something that will actually improve it?
Bro I remember being 14 and getting super hyped when their Winter 2014 deadline rolled around... See you guys when Oddity drops winter 2034 (no disrespect to the devs of course)
why do i feel safe in saying that the distance between Goethe's faust 1 and faust 2 will be shorter then the initial announced release and when it does.
Mother 4/ Oddity never really existed as a game, it was always just a bunch of nice looking assets When you look at the leaked builds you can see that most if not all of the content in them are just the content that was being shown in trailers/teasers, there wasn’t really much that we haven’t already seen, even the artist who made the art in the 2020 trailer admitted that she made said art only a few days before release of the trailer (sorry I can’t find the exact source), so yeah the game was stuck in vaporware hell Here’s what I think happened : a bunch of artists without much experience in game dev wanted to make a mother 4, they made a bunch of nice looking art assets and a bit of simple code, they greatly underestimated just how much time and effort game dev takes, since the game is a non profit hobby project they’d get busy with work/school, voluntary development + Development hell are a terrible combo, so yeah the game wasn’t being worked on but they didn’t want the project to die so every few years they’d make a bunch of assets in a few days and pump put a trailer to keep the illusion that there’s a game, but the game will absolutely never come out if they keep doing this, in all honesty I don’t think they’re ever gonna continue working on it, I feel like the group chat that the devs would communicate to each other in probably hasn’t had a message in months, there’s no game dev going on
It's entirely possible it's all a mock-up. The scenes we've seen look great, but those are pretty easy to make in a game animator as opposed to being an instance in a variable game space. The Alpha was an Alpha, expected to not function correctly or fully, but it doesn't do much to prove its legitimacy, it's very basic and with assets could be thrown together by an average coder in a week or so.
It's 50/50, game development is a really difficult thing. The developers were very new to game design and thought things were going to be smooth with the development - however it got really complicated. 2014 was a really early release date and they missed it by a longshot, couple that with numerous leaks and developer indrama and you have a recipe for what is a really fucked development cycle. Something VERY similar happened with Omori - it was intended to come out in 2014-2015, however the release date was pushed back to 2020, dangerously close to 2021. Keep in mind Omori had an engine already up and running thanks to RPGMaker, while Oddity/Mother 4 is using an engine custom made from the ground up. Along with that Mother 4 has been redone from scratch multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if the Oddity rebrand also represents yet another development restart, with years of content being scrapped and redone completely. That Alpha is simply that - an alpha, they did lie but I don't think it was malicious - rather a bunch of teenagers thinking they could make something cool and get attention for it, yet bit off WAY more than they could chew. The thing with alphas and games is that they usually suck until they're around 80% complete, look at any of Half Life 2's leaked maps which were intended for e3 demonstrations, if the person recording the video for those e3 documentations even went slightly off course you'd see absolutely nothing, but a simple void. The phystown showcase for the game's physics was heavily scripted and basically lied through it's teeth in order to showcase what the team had hoped to accomplish. Plenty of bugs and glitches - look at Duke Nukem Forever's 2001 leaked build as well, or literally any leaked build of in-development games at the time and you'll see most games lie in their trailers to drum up hype, it's a very common practice. I think Oddity/Mother 4 exists, the pants twitter thread is likely for an announcement that might come potentially soon, patience is key, this is also a free project which boggles my mind, I don't think they'd keep up something like this for close to a decade now if it was a scam or ploy for attention, as none of the developers have asked for a single cent from the community. If Oddity never comes out I doubt I'd lose much sleep over it, we know so little about the game other than two really cool trailers, however I do hope Shane keeps to his word for releasing everything they've made if Oddity indeed does get cancelled.
Don’t care I’m still gonna complain. Also restarting the game multiple times is infuriating as shit and indicates poor planning on their part. Know what you wanna make before you waste years of your life working on it
In the back of my mind im always cheering them on, even if it might never come to be... I beleive in them...and if it dosent come out? Perhaps in the future someone else could do something. I dunno
I thought it was some Star Trek Starfleet flag, they got something similar to that, stars but in kinda off-places to reflect the various alien members.
If UbseyMovies can finally release Earthbound Saga 5 after 14 years it was announced, I am going to hold out a little longer for Oddity to be released, and perhaps a 100 years after that Nintendo will finally give Mother 3 a north american release. Good things come to those who wait. I hope you're not right about Oddity, but you do make a point.
Under normal circumstances, I would be with you, but like... the game is gonna be free. If anything, it's costing the game devs everything and the fans nothing. You shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.
You have to take into account that they SCRAPPED the game’s code a couple times. They kept the same story, but they’ve been messing with coding. They are building up their own engine right now. 2020 was not just a rebrand, but also a complete engine rework/move. They’re planning for the maps of the game to be huge so much to the point where you could get lost according to some messages from Pastellel (Oddity’s main dev from my memory and i think i spelt it wrong.) To sum it up: MOTHER 4 and ODDITY are two completely different games (when it comes to gameplay.) i’d still be pessimistic about it coming out anytime soon. Winter 2034.
I think you're nuts
Thank you 😻😻😻
🥜
Well thanks dad. Thanks for your support.
i think nintendo had all the devs assassinated
i would expect them to
I feel like I've been on a constant loop for a whole decade. I was at the start of highschool checking the page daily going "Oh man can't wait to play this on winter!" I'm almost in my mid 20's now bruh 💀
Update: they said they are releasing Mother 4 in Winter 2034
Man, winter 2034 is going to be wild.
This game technically began development in 2008. 16 years, man...
Maybe we'll get mother encore before at least
I do actually think they believed they were on track to hit the winter 2014 deadline for Mother 4(or at least close), but the whole rebrand screwed that up. A while ago one of the people who used to work on it came out and revialed on twitter how the rebrand hurt the development. A lot the people involved weren't exactly enthusiastic about the decisions and the things it could mean for the development of the game. Some were upset that they weren't working on a mother fan game any more, and some were worried about what it could mean for potentially monetizing the game. Although the project leads claim they'd keep it free there was still debate about if they should or not especially with how much work everyone put into it and some people thinking some kind of compensation would be nice. Regarless, a lot of the volunteers involved in the development jumped ship for their own reasons. That coupled with the huge undertaking that is going back and changing a lot of their already finished work probably slowed the already slow development to a crawl or even at times a complete hault. One of the reasons they gave for the rebrand was the mother IP being too limiting(not sure how true that is), but that also might imply the scope of the project could have changed. It's really hard to tell what really is going on at any one moment in time because updates are so few and far between, but the project is still likely being worked on. I think their most recent tweet is just a "hey we didn't forget about this game" kind of thing. I really hope it's hinting at an announcement in the near future, but honestly with how the development of this game has been going I doubt it :/.
Real.
Im waiting everyday for them randomly coming out saying ,,MOTHER 4/ODDITY IS OUT NOW"
Rule of Game releases: If it’s not out, it doesn’t exist. Trailers are merely potential for the existence of a game. _coughs silksong coughs oddity_
I found out about MOTHER 4 in 2014 as an eighth grader, now I’m a grown ass man working a full time job 😂
If someone makes this same video for silksong in a decade istg
I'm just saying the Oddity devs have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever, that being releasing the game in Winter 2024. If not then, then there's no hope
*2034
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@@stardestroyer814044, the 5th millennium
@@404-c1q waiting for this game is gonna make me cosplay as a yo-yo
what an oddity
@@noahrules7146 🤯
Scraping and restarting multiple times should not be a point of defense for the devs. They should’ve planned better so that they didn’t waste their and everyone else’s time. I’m sure at least one person who really wanted to play this game a decade ago has died waiting for this game to come out.
Give them a little credence, it can be hard to tell early on exactly where development was going to go. It could've been planned as a small project but once a larger vision started to come in, they needed to re-work things. I know a project that did exactly that, a smaller Visual Novel thing, which actually began around 2014. But for both of them, there's a certain amount of time for that credence, and we passed that years ago. Pick a vision and make it done already, or just don't.
@ nah, you need to get your team together and decide how large the scope of the project is gonna be from the get-go, otherwise you’re setting yourself up for being way overwhelmed and likely failure. I know it might seem cruel and judgemental to say they should know this before starting anything else, but think about it this way: why would you pour years and years of your time and effort into something you set yourself up to fail at when you could’ve been spending your precious limited time on this earth to something that will actually improve it?
Bro I remember being 14 and getting super hyped when their Winter 2014 deadline rolled around...
See you guys when Oddity drops winter 2034 (no disrespect to the devs of course)
why do i feel safe in saying that the distance between Goethe's faust 1 and faust 2 will be shorter then the initial announced release and when it does.
very niche reference 😂
Mother 4/ Oddity never really existed as a game, it was always just a bunch of nice looking assets
When you look at the leaked builds you can see that most if not all of the content in them are just the content that was being shown in trailers/teasers, there wasn’t really much that we haven’t already seen, even the artist who made the art in the 2020 trailer admitted that she made said art only a few days before release of the trailer (sorry I can’t find the exact source), so yeah the game was stuck in vaporware hell
Here’s what I think happened : a bunch of artists without much experience in game dev wanted to make a mother 4, they made a bunch of nice looking art assets and a bit of simple code, they greatly underestimated just how much time and effort game dev takes, since the game is a non profit hobby project they’d get busy with work/school, voluntary development + Development hell are a terrible combo, so yeah the game wasn’t being worked on but they didn’t want the project to die so every few years they’d make a bunch of assets in a few days and pump put a trailer to keep the illusion that there’s a game, but the game will absolutely never come out if they keep doing this, in all honesty I don’t think they’re ever gonna continue working on it, I feel like the group chat that the devs would communicate to each other in probably hasn’t had a message in months, there’s no game dev going on
It's entirely possible it's all a mock-up. The scenes we've seen look great, but those are pretty easy to make in a game animator as opposed to being an instance in a variable game space. The Alpha was an Alpha, expected to not function correctly or fully, but it doesn't do much to prove its legitimacy, it's very basic and with assets could be thrown together by an average coder in a week or so.
Maybe, MAYBE, my grandkids would be able to play oddity some day
New ODDITY post containing some LOOOOOOOREEEEE
🤯🤯🤯
Great artistic vision but extremely terrible project management and leadership.
It's 50/50, game development is a really difficult thing.
The developers were very new to game design and thought things were going to be smooth with the development - however it got really complicated.
2014 was a really early release date and they missed it by a longshot, couple that with numerous leaks and developer indrama and you have a recipe for what is a really fucked development cycle.
Something VERY similar happened with Omori - it was intended to come out in 2014-2015, however the release date was pushed back to 2020, dangerously close to 2021.
Keep in mind Omori had an engine already up and running thanks to RPGMaker, while Oddity/Mother 4 is using an engine custom made from the ground up.
Along with that Mother 4 has been redone from scratch multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if the Oddity rebrand also represents yet another development restart, with years of content being scrapped and redone completely.
That Alpha is simply that - an alpha, they did lie but I don't think it was malicious - rather a bunch of teenagers thinking they could make something cool and get attention for it, yet bit off WAY more than they could chew.
The thing with alphas and games is that they usually suck until they're around 80% complete, look at any of Half Life 2's leaked maps which were intended for e3 demonstrations, if the person recording the video for those e3 documentations even went slightly off course you'd see absolutely nothing, but a simple void.
The phystown showcase for the game's physics was heavily scripted and basically lied through it's teeth in order to showcase what the team had hoped to accomplish.
Plenty of bugs and glitches - look at Duke Nukem Forever's 2001 leaked build as well, or literally any leaked build of in-development games at the time and you'll see most games lie in their trailers to drum up hype, it's a very common practice.
I think Oddity/Mother 4 exists, the pants twitter thread is likely for an announcement that might come potentially soon, patience is key, this is also a free project which boggles my mind, I don't think they'd keep up something like this for close to a decade now if it was a scam or ploy for attention, as none of the developers have asked for a single cent from the community.
If Oddity never comes out I doubt I'd lose much sleep over it, we know so little about the game other than two really cool trailers, however I do hope Shane keeps to his word for releasing everything they've made if Oddity indeed does get cancelled.
Yeah, Im just not sure the game is still even happening. Its all a waiting game now.
how naive...
Don’t care I’m still gonna complain. Also restarting the game multiple times is infuriating as shit and indicates poor planning on their part. Know what you wanna make before you waste years of your life working on it
I thought Shane had drama with this team and already left/released all he did for them
And people thought mother 3 took forever to get localized
they're gonna announce they switched engines again and that they had to get new programmers because the switch made them angry.
Again.
I was a kid when I first saw the 2014 trailer now I’m 21
Winter 2024 oh we’ll be finished in the next ten years. Ten years later…. We are exited to announce oddity will never release 🥳🥳
Technically the title is correct being as they started over like 10 times lmao
Chase leaving this project doomed it.
Damn, it do be like that...
when the beta never meant for public eyes is buggy and bad
I still want to believe.
In the back of my mind im always cheering them on, even if it might never come to be... I beleive in them...and if it dosent come out?
Perhaps in the future someone else could do something. I dunno
Or like the O T H E R M O T H E R 4 ?
PANTS THREAD PANTS THREAD
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
I just want to say, the flag designed for the supposed not-america region
Its fucking terrible
I thought it was some Star Trek Starfleet flag, they got something similar to that, stars but in kinda off-places to reflect the various alien members.
I’ve followed this project since like 2011…
Imma be real i dont think it’s happening 😔 but a man can dream
If UbseyMovies can finally release Earthbound Saga 5 after 14 years it was announced, I am going to hold out a little longer for Oddity to be released, and perhaps a 100 years after that Nintendo will finally give Mother 3 a north american release. Good things come to those who wait.
I hope you're not right about Oddity, but you do make a point.
@@bigbrotherishere I honestly hope i’m not right either.
winter 2024 ¿wheres oddity?
thats crazy
Lore of Oddity Never Existed... Momentum 100
Hopefully it won't release like Duke Nukem Forever did... It looks nice, so I'm sure it won't.
that game is never coming out. we need to be harder on the lazy ahh devs, theyve been doing nothing but lie since 2006
Under normal circumstances, I would be with you, but like... the game is gonna be free. If anything, it's costing the game devs everything and the fans nothing.
You shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.
Whats the game at the bottom?
It is the leaked gameplay of Oddity from 2014.
an nda was signed thats why less content has been showing
interesting 🤔
You have to take into account that they SCRAPPED the game’s code a couple times. They kept the same story, but they’ve been messing with coding. They are building up their own engine right now. 2020 was not just a rebrand, but also a complete engine rework/move. They’re planning for the maps of the game to be huge so much to the point where you could get lost according to some messages from Pastellel (Oddity’s main dev from my memory and i think i spelt it wrong.) To sum it up: MOTHER 4 and ODDITY are two completely different games (when it comes to gameplay.) i’d still be pessimistic about it coming out anytime soon. Winter 2034.
@@kamikamo_ only time will tell
Delusional nonsense
Damn dude did you pay money for this game? You sound like you lost a lot on it. Game Dev isn't easy.
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