Your videos helped me settle on an R5C about a year back. Still constantly impressed by it, especially now that the new batteries make it more viable un-rigged up!
I returned my launch R5 II. I already have an r5 and r5c. It really didn't add much to what I do except another c log 2 to go with my c70s. I have an R1 on the way. Oversampled 4k up to 60 fos, clog 2 ibis unlimited recording, no overheating, and better lowlight, 2 batteries will last an entire day and the best AF with Canon.
@@mrrexy4151 let's hope so. I have an R3 and C70 already. I'd love to have an a better r3 with clog 2 and some of the conveniences of shooting with the c70 like more codecs and finally the ability to change while balance while filming.
Great Video as always Josh... I think you made great points about the IBIS. I am not a big fan of IBIS for video. The wobbling around were you are in focus can be a feature I guess but for most of the time it's just a distraction. I am a bigger fan of stabilizing the entire entire rig than just the sensor. Like motorized gimbal. I don't have the budget for the R5C but I had to choose between the R6ii and the R8 and I ended up choosing the R8 just because it didn't have IBIS. I am missing out on dual card slots and I have to carry a USB-c power bank but you live with what you live with. One thing is for sure I am slowly upgrading my glass and other parts of my gear and probably will end up with an R5C or R5Cii in a few years. I do wish I could shoot open gate and have access to Shutter angle mostly because I would think that Shutter angle would just save time when switching modes and figuring out shutter speed in general for what ever effects you are doing. I do work in dusty environments. Probably why I don't really like fans but I totally understand why you do.
I'd love you to review the new R1! I think they're not advertising it much for video because of the C80 and C400 but my bet is it's the best Canon mirrorless camera for video and the best in the market when it comes to low light. Love your videos!
Everyone goes on about specs, but completely ignores the difference an OS/menu makes. If it’s geared to photo, it’ll be better for that. If it’s geared for video it will be better for that use. This is what makes the R5 C such a usable camera - no compromise in the menus (the bit of the camera you use often for every single shoot). Great insight as always, thanks Josh!
Excellent comparison Josh! I just released a video today about the cooling grip and I referenced your vid to my subs because when it gets down to the technical you are much better than me. I can’t wait until you go full hybrid and get into photography😊. We’ll get you there one day😂
I think it will be a great camera for a while still. 8K raw is overkill for most production needs but it's nice to have the flexibility. Plus it being a Cine camera is great.
Quick correction: You can shoot in raw on the r5c and interpret as clog2, but it’s not true clog2. The dynamic range was baked into the clog3 curve which is similar to clog(1), and so there aren’t any tangible benefits to interpreting as clog 2. Gerald Undone did a test with this on the r5c and saw there was no benefit to this, and it behaved very much like the original clog.
great video josh. heres my takes on the cameras. i used to own the r5c since its debut, never had a love n hate relationship with a camera b4 lol. its a great hybrid camera helped me a lot in my jobs. but, its really hard to use on set sometimes. I only shoot in raw, its quite frustrating to see the battery decrease not even using it and to reconnect the type c cable linking the external battery everytime switching it on.i had to plug in an external power due to the frame rates so, i always had to fiddle the rig on set. also, its my bcam, so i do need to mount it outside cars or on jibs and the biggest downside for me is not having an app to control it. theres noway to even run/stop the cam unless using a battery grip which is a joke. and for such a big grip it only takes 1 lpe6 to power the cam, seriously who designed it? and the autofocus is unreliable, esp in less than perfect lighting conditions. for a b or c cam, i don want to pay for another focus puller, but during the time i was using the r5c，60% of the time i had to hire a focus puller for the bcam. but i love everything else about this camera so i kept it for 2 years+. after using the r52 for a car shoot, i think it kinda solved my problems with the r5c. but the time i was using the R52 it had BIG problems. manual lens footage was unusable in any NLE, i mean howcome no one from canon told us users about this. luckily i tested the camera with my exact work setup and found out that manual lens footage were flickering in NLE. so i ended up using canon RF lenses. my friend wasnt so lucky tho, he travled to Budapest form china for a job and brought Leica cine lenses to pair with his new R52 and got almost ruined. luckily canon china was able to help him transfer everything to mov. i think r52 new firmware has fixed this issue. now im planning to get the r52, it has its problems but, don see another hybrid camera that suits my workflow. especially after investing some money in canon lenses.
Been shooting tons of 8k60 raw light on my R5ii, imho that’s the way to go for slowmo on that camera. Sure the files are large but they’re not insane, you mostly shoot in small bursts on 60p, and hard drives are cheap these days. The only time I’ve gone to 4k XAVC is for really long take stuff like interviews, and have yet to overheat the camera in 4k 24p fine.
I love that the R5C has so many video format options. All the compressed formats, XF-AVC, Internal RAW (8K 60p), 8K downsampled 4K out to a Ninja for ProRes and ProRes RAW in 8K and 6K (up to 60p) .. even cropped 6K is downsampled to 4K out to a Ninja for plain ProRes. Internal RAW uses Clog2. Good stuff. It could use a bit better autofocus, but it’s still a great video camera. Will there be an R5C II?
Thanks for your insight. I own the R5C. Got it when it first came out. Only used it a few times. I just was a little intimidated by the menu system, so I always prefer the R5 over it. Looking to finally giving the R5C a real chance. Ty
Your tests made me think of another question - what would an Atomos receive when the camera is set 8K60 internally on the R5 II. I tested both 8K60 RAW LT and 4K60 SRAW and compared them to the 4K60 LGOP internal mode when connected to an Atomos. The footage recorded via the Atomos when it’s in internal RAW mode is definitely sharper and appears to be over-sampled.
Some people are born to teach. They're good at it without consciously trying. You, sir, are a good teacher. Just want to say thanks for all you do! Oh, and add me to the list of very happy R5C owners. I actually just got a second one for perfect matching in post.
Your findings on the poor rolling shutter of the r5ii in video is why I asked about the R1 yesterday. Are they going to do the same thing with the R1 where they've improved photo rolling shutter by 2X only to make the video the same speed? Would love to know and save myself a couple thousand dollars
My current situation is a shoot the R6II for sports video and it's video rolling shutter ruins some shots but the R5II offers zero improvement. Under the lighting that usually ruins shots I generally can't use over 60fps due to flicker
@Josh_Sattin I understand, I was just relating your findings to my situation. Turns out you're going to test the C80, which might actually be pretty close to the R1 in video. Totally forgot about that option, If it just had 6k60 it might be perfect as I suspect the rolling shutter is nearly the same.
Josh any chance you’re going to take a look at the R1? Grossly underrated for video. It’s oversampled 4k up to 60. Which the r5ii does not have. Very clear dual base iso at 12800. I’d be very interested to see you test the dynamic range. I think it’s quite underrated for video and in fact if you’re not shooting raw 8k. The r1 is better in video. And 6k raw up to 60 is no slouch. Value your reviews so just asking if it’s something you may do. Thanks!
I don't currently have plans to test the R1. I would love to try it at some point, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen any time soon. Thanks for watching the video!
The reason why the readout speed is similar is that mirrorless cameras do not use stacked sensor circuitry for video due to heat and power consumption concerns. This is the same with nikon z9/z8. Photo mode is way faster, while video is still hovering around the 15ms mark.
I got sub 10 ms read out speed when testing the Z6 III - ua-cam.com/video/fpobjPkD-gA/v-deo.html That sensor is only "partially stacked" vs stacked on the Z8/Z9/R5II.
@Josh_Sattin Yes, that one is an exception. This comes at the expense of noise and dr, however. If z9 was to use stacked circuitry for video, the readout speed would be 3.7ms!
I bet you the R5C only did better with the battery due to the fan. Doesn't make sense at first but I think the fan keeping the camera cooler made it more efficient.
Thanks! You can turn it off but I don't think it completely locks the sensor down. Also with Canon mirrorless cameras the lens stabilization is tied to the IBIS. So you can't use lens stabilization with IBIS. Either both on or both off.
Hello, I currently have a Fujifilm XH2-S. I also use a Canon R6 with RF 15-35mm and RF 28-70mm lenses for photography. I'm considering selling the Fujifilm and buying a Canon R5C to use with RF system lenses. However, I couldn't find a proper comparison for low-light performance between the Fujifilm and Canon at night. Since I do wedding photography, night quality is very important to me. I would love to get recommendations from those who have experience. Also, would the lack of IBIS in the R5C be a problem for me?
Hey Josh, love your thorough comparisons between the R5 II and R5C, but what are your thoughts on the new VCM lenses Canon has released so far, and which of the two camera bodies would pair well with them? I ask because I’ve only mainly seen them on the R5, R6 II, or R5 II. I rarely see them on the R5C and I’m wondering if that’s because the lens lacks IS and the R5C also lacks IBIS?
Thanks! Yeah I haven't gotten a chance to try those lenses yet. Yes they lack stabilization and you would be relying on the digital IS in the R5C and any other stabilization methods like gimbals, tripods, etc.
Thanks! You can turn the IBIS off but it is also tied to the stabilization in the lenses so either both on or both off. When you turn IBIS off in a camera I'm not sure it locks it down as much as it being a non-stabilized sensor though.
I will say Ive been using the R5c as my main camera for over 6 months now and have used it every weekend and i have to say the digital IS is great BUT i still have some weird "wobbles" that come from the digital IS and it drives me nuts. On a gimbal i really don't need it but i will say having Digital IS with the camera just on a mono pod is honestly a lifesaver Maybe it was my mistake to have Digital IS on while on a gimbal, didn't think there would be an issue but there is sometimes when people are dancing. For handheld it stays on. I have a question for all of you, Ive done some research and am looking for a better ceremony camera, have the r7 for that. Would you guys go for another r5c or the c70? I looked at the c70 and i really don't think it would benefit me any that the r5c doesn't already offer other than a better audio setup on the c70 I would go for a r6 but the record limits really throw a wrench in that. Any advice would be great and im staying canon, i don't want to learn another operation system, it already a huge jump coming from a R7 to a r5c and the cinema OS definitely took a bit to get used to.
I had the C70 and sold it to get the R5 C. I had the budget to buy another on but got another R5 C instead. It’s just too versatile, while the C70 has gorgeous footage, I don’t think it matches up to the R5 C. I did own an R6 II - that is a perfect wedding cam: oversampled up to 4K60 (didn’t overheat for short clips), long takes in 4k 25p didn’t overheat for me either. Ibis. 2+ hour battery life. The image also has some secret sauce. If someone offered me a free R6 II or C70, I’d take the R6 II. I was also at a wedding last month and both videographers were using R6 IIs with rf 24-70. Hope this is useful :)
Great video …in your opinion for wildlife…relatively short clips what is the best r3 or r5 11 ?…we already have r3 which is great all round…but deciding on another r3 or r511…or even r1 one of usually does photos and the other films 👍
Your videos aret too good, this video is the one i was waiting for. Given me a lot clarity on r5c vs r52 .. really detialed comparison.. 👌🏻 Pls let me know if R5C can record 4k/2k/FHD 60 RAW and interpret as clog 2..?
Can I ask if you have A lumix S5iix would you recommend the R5C as A cam or just stick to lumix? im looking to step up to a better camera then my Lumix, so Im startin to look into canon and Sony at this point
Thank you for the info Josh! My line of work I have to do a lot of gimbal work and I am looking to replace my canon r7 on my ronin. Do you see much of a difference going from the fixed sensor to the stabilized sensor when putting theses cameras on a gimbal? For reference I have to get a lot of shots physically running alongside power equipment.
@@Josh_Sattin Primarily rolling shutter and when I do early morning/ sunset/ night shots full frame is best. I will be purchasing one of these with a 35 1.4..... I used to work exclusively with a a7s3 but I recently started my career over again but with Canon this time around. I used to work for a corporation where they owned the cameras but now I am independent (by choice)
Hi Josh, thanks for this. I appreciate the time and effort you put in for everything review and comparison wise. I have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and you’re the only one I could think of that could help answer this question, but my brother (close friend, but he is practically like a brother to me) wants to gift me a new Canon R5 Mark II and either a Canon C400 or C80. While I have been arguing with him that he does not need to do this, he is insisting that I choose; otherwise, he will just choose for me. So he has already purchased the Canon R5 Mark II and is wanting to know if I want the C400 or the C80. I am planning on using it for UA-cam and probably real estate videos, as well as my photography business. Obviously, I have already tried to talk him out of it, but that's not happening, so I wanted to know your thoughts. The other thing is he is very well off, and he told me not to think of the money. He stated that he is investing in his brother, which very much hit me pretty hard emotionally, but he will do it anyway, so I just need some help from you on what avenue I should take. Thank you so much, Josh. I really appreciate it.
Great video 🤩 If connecting an Atomos Ninja V recorder for the R5II would it be possible to record 4K fine in 24/30fps for long shoots without overheating?
I assume you are asking about the R5II since the R5C can can not record in Clog2. On both cameras when you record in raw you can select Clog2 or Clog3 in the raw controls. If you record in Clog2 on the R5II then it will have to be in a raw codec so the difference will be raw vs not raw.
Josh, how are you getting 1 hour plus with the new LP-E6P battery I can’t get more than 45 minutes of run time??? I’m only shooting 4K in XVAC @ 29 FPS…. I am relatively new to the video seen but have owned the R5C for over a year and have never gotten more than 45 minutes on a battery??? A reply would be very appreciated sit. Thank you!
Hey Josh! Thanks for making this video 🙏 How about getting something like C70 or C80? Or why don't you switch to Sony (sorry if i you talked about it in one of yours videos and I missed it). Cheers!
You're welcome. I've owned the C70 and will be testing the C80 soon. I have been in several camera systems over the past few years, including a lot of time with Sony. I don't switch from one company to another, I live in multiple systems.
If someone made a LUT that perfectly matches the R5ii colors to the cinema line colors I would probably switch. Having almost perfect autofocus is just too convenient.
There is a new firmware coming to R5C in December which will allow 8K60 recording without the need for external power, just with internal power as long as you use the latest “P” battery. I’m not sure the new firmware would affect your battery life testing of 4K60fps though.. Maybe even better battery life??
They probably could technically add Clog2 to any camera but they won't do it. Sony put Slog3 in their older 8-bit cameras and it was basically unusable. Check out this video for more information about Canon's log profiles: ua-cam.com/video/PGp2-Mu5ElI/v-deo.html
End of the day, I recommended best solution, 😁 If you are Canon person, you should get both of them. I feel that Canon will announce the New R5C brand in 2025. All the disadvantages mentioned are gone and the price is around $5000. THANK YOU FOR VIDEO.
IBIS wiggle is a huge factor, absolutely awful in the r5 and hardly better in the r5ii. Still for me clog2 matches sony DR better so i had to upgrade frok r5ii
Your videos helped me settle on an R5C about a year back. Still constantly impressed by it, especially now that the new batteries make it more viable un-rigged up!
Glad the videos have been helpful. I agree, the new batteries were such an improvement!
It’s crazy how 2 years later we are still comparing! I have the R5c and getting the new Lp p battery 🔋 it’s like a new camera
Yup! It’s a solid camera and I keep choosing to use it. New battery was such an improvement for sure!
Honestly Josh you helped me decide on going for the R5C and am loving it. Thank you!
You're welcome. Thanks for checking out the videos!
YES! I haven’t even watched this yet but, this is the video I’ve been waiting for since the release of the R5ii. Thanks Josh, you’re a legend mate.
You’re welcome. Thanks for checking out the video!
I returned my launch R5 II. I already have an r5 and r5c. It really didn't add much to what I do except another c log 2 to go with my c70s. I have an R1 on the way. Oversampled 4k up to 60 fos, clog 2 ibis unlimited recording, no overheating, and better lowlight, 2 batteries will last an entire day and the best AF with Canon.
I think that R1 would have the best dynamic range in videos...also low light capabilities
@@mrrexy4151 let's hope so. I have an R3 and C70 already. I'd love to have an a better r3 with clog 2 and some of the conveniences of shooting with the c70 like more codecs and finally the ability to change while balance while filming.
Great Video as always Josh... I think you made great points about the IBIS. I am not a big fan of IBIS for video. The wobbling around were you are in focus can be a feature I guess but for most of the time it's just a distraction.
I am a bigger fan of stabilizing the entire entire rig than just the sensor. Like motorized gimbal.
I don't have the budget for the R5C but I had to choose between the R6ii and the R8 and I ended up choosing the R8 just because it didn't have IBIS. I am missing out on dual card slots and I have to carry a USB-c power bank but you live with what you live with.
One thing is for sure I am slowly upgrading my glass and other parts of my gear and probably will end up with an R5C or R5Cii in a few years.
I do wish I could shoot open gate and have access to Shutter angle mostly because I would think that Shutter angle would just save time when switching modes and figuring out shutter speed in general for what ever effects you are doing.
I do work in dusty environments. Probably why I don't really like fans but I totally understand why you do.
I'd love you to review the new R1! I think they're not advertising it much for video because of the C80 and C400 but my bet is it's the best Canon mirrorless camera for video and the best in the market when it comes to low light. Love your videos!
Everyone goes on about specs, but completely ignores the difference an OS/menu makes. If it’s geared to photo, it’ll be better for that. If it’s geared for video it will be better for that use.
This is what makes the R5 C such a usable camera - no compromise in the menus (the bit of the camera you use often for every single shoot).
Great insight as always, thanks Josh!
You're welcome. I think user experience will become more and more important as time goes on. It has for me anyways.
That quite big difference in the shadow test. Not just slightly to me.
Excellent comparison Josh! I just released a video today about the cooling grip and I referenced your vid to my subs because when it gets down to the technical you are much better than me. I can’t wait until you go full hybrid and get into photography😊. We’ll get you there one day😂
Thanks for the shout out Jared!
@ anytime! Your detail tests are like no other and they are much appreciated.
Pls if it is possible make a comparison video between R5ii vs C80!
Best regards from Greece
Keep going Josh !amazing content🙏
No comparison one takes photos
Awesome video, helps my decision, thanks for this!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Crazy, at least the R5c still has a lot of value
I think it will be a great camera for a while still. 8K raw is overkill for most production needs but it's nice to have the flexibility. Plus it being a Cine camera is great.
Love you videos man very informative!
Thank you so much!
Very well explained !!!
Thanks for watching!
Quick correction:
You can shoot in raw on the r5c and interpret as clog2, but it’s not true clog2. The dynamic range was baked into the clog3 curve which is similar to clog(1), and so there aren’t any tangible benefits to interpreting as clog 2. Gerald Undone did a test with this on the r5c and saw there was no benefit to this, and it behaved very much like the original clog.
great video josh. heres my takes on the cameras. i used to own the r5c since its debut, never had a love n hate relationship with a camera b4 lol. its a great hybrid camera helped me a lot in my jobs. but, its really hard to use on set sometimes. I only shoot in raw, its quite frustrating to see the battery decrease not even using it and to reconnect the type c cable linking the external battery everytime switching it on.i had to plug in an external power due to the frame rates so, i always had to fiddle the rig on set. also, its my bcam, so i do need to mount it outside cars or on jibs and the biggest downside for me is not having an app to control it. theres noway to even run/stop the cam unless using a battery grip which is a joke. and for such a big grip it only takes 1 lpe6 to power the cam, seriously who designed it? and the autofocus is unreliable, esp in less than perfect lighting conditions. for a b or c cam, i don want to pay for another focus puller, but during the time i was using the r5c，60% of the time i had to hire a focus puller for the bcam. but i love everything else about this camera so i kept it for 2 years+. after using the r52 for a car shoot, i think it kinda solved my problems with the r5c. but the time i was using the R52 it had BIG problems. manual lens footage was unusable in any NLE, i mean howcome no one from canon told us users about this. luckily i tested the camera with my exact work setup and found out that manual lens footage were flickering in NLE. so i ended up using canon RF lenses. my friend wasnt so lucky tho, he travled to Budapest form china for a job and brought Leica cine lenses to pair with his new R52 and got almost ruined. luckily canon china was able to help him transfer everything to mov. i think r52 new firmware has fixed this issue. now im planning to get the r52, it has its problems but, don see another hybrid camera that suits my workflow. especially after investing some money in canon lenses.
Been shooting tons of 8k60 raw light on my R5ii, imho that’s the way to go for slowmo on that camera. Sure the files are large but they’re not insane, you mostly shoot in small bursts on 60p, and hard drives are cheap these days. The only time I’ve gone to 4k XAVC is for really long take stuff like interviews, and have yet to overheat the camera in 4k 24p fine.
I love that the R5C has so many video format options. All the compressed formats, XF-AVC, Internal RAW (8K 60p), 8K downsampled 4K out to a Ninja for ProRes and ProRes RAW in 8K and 6K (up to 60p) .. even cropped 6K is downsampled to 4K out to a Ninja for plain ProRes. Internal RAW uses Clog2. Good stuff. It could use a bit better autofocus, but it’s still a great video camera. Will there be an R5C II?
Great overview. By the way have you tried using LP-E6P work in BG-R10 battery grip or only the NH versions?
Yes, I want to know too😏
Thanks! I haven't personally tried this but I have heard from people that said that the battery grip works with the LP-E6P batteries as expected.
Thanks for your insight. I own the R5C. Got it when it first came out. Only used it a few times. I just was a little intimidated by the menu system, so I always prefer the R5 over it. Looking to finally giving the R5C a real chance. Ty
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
about to order the R5ii, thanks for your thoughts... now watch them put out the R5Cii in a few months and solve all this
Agree with the cinema os being a better experience. R5ii does some interesting things for photography, but the menu for video seems very clunky
Your tests made me think of another question - what would an Atomos receive when the camera is set 8K60 internally on the R5 II.
I tested both 8K60 RAW LT and 4K60 SRAW and compared them to the 4K60 LGOP internal mode when connected to an Atomos. The footage recorded via the Atomos when it’s in internal RAW mode is definitely sharper and appears to be over-sampled.
I have R5 and R5C and prefer the R5C usually... also for extreme low light R6, R8.... or a7s2 of course.
Some people are born to teach. They're good at it without consciously trying. You, sir, are a good teacher. Just want to say thanks for all you do! Oh, and add me to the list of very happy R5C owners. I actually just got a second one for perfect matching in post.
Thank you for the kind words!
R5 II has face only, I assigned it to a button. I wish they had timecode via USB like the FX3, it has it in the menu's.
exactly we need time code badly. email your canon pro service rep and ask them it’s probably the only chance to get it implemented
R5c mini HDMI and battery life are horrendous. I don't know if there will be R5c II since there's fan grip for R5 II. I hope so.
Hey Josh, the R5ii has face only autofocus like the R6ii. It’s called subject only
Your findings on the poor rolling shutter of the r5ii in video is why I asked about the R1 yesterday. Are they going to do the same thing with the R1 where they've improved photo rolling shutter by 2X only to make the video the same speed? Would love to know and save myself a couple thousand dollars
My current situation is a shoot the R6II for sports video and it's video rolling shutter ruins some shots but the R5II offers zero improvement. Under the lighting that usually ruins shots I generally can't use over 60fps due to flicker
I'd be curious about that too, but I unfortunately don't have the time or resources to make that comparison video.
@Josh_Sattin I understand, I was just relating your findings to my situation. Turns out you're going to test the C80, which might actually be pretty close to the R1 in video. Totally forgot about that option, If it just had 6k60 it might be perfect as I suspect the rolling shutter is nearly the same.
I got the r5 ii from a canon authorized dealer in Florida for $3989, pairing it with the canon 200-800
Josh any chance you’re going to take a look at the R1? Grossly underrated for video. It’s oversampled 4k up to 60. Which the r5ii does not have. Very clear dual base iso at 12800. I’d be very interested to see you test the dynamic range. I think it’s quite underrated for video and in fact if you’re not shooting raw 8k. The r1 is better in video. And 6k raw up to 60 is no slouch. Value your reviews so just asking if it’s something you may do. Thanks!
I don't currently have plans to test the R1. I would love to try it at some point, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen any time soon. Thanks for watching the video!
@ thanks for the reply. Great video as always.
@@Darkhorsemultimedia1 You're welcome. I appreciate it!
The reason why the readout speed is similar is that mirrorless cameras do not use stacked sensor circuitry for video due to heat and power consumption concerns. This is the same with nikon z9/z8. Photo mode is way faster, while video is still hovering around the 15ms mark.
I got sub 10 ms read out speed when testing the Z6 III - ua-cam.com/video/fpobjPkD-gA/v-deo.html
That sensor is only "partially stacked" vs stacked on the Z8/Z9/R5II.
@Josh_Sattin Yes, that one is an exception. This comes at the expense of noise and dr, however. If z9 was to use stacked circuitry for video, the readout speed would be 3.7ms!
@ I believe the Canon R3 has a sub 10 ms readout speed in video too and that is a stacked sensor.
I bet you the R5C only did better with the battery due to the fan. Doesn't make sense at first but I think the fan keeping the camera cooler made it more efficient.
Hey Josh. Great comparison as usual. Is IBIS a possible con if you can just turn it off?
Thanks! You can turn it off but I don't think it completely locks the sensor down. Also with Canon mirrorless cameras the lens stabilization is tied to the IBIS. So you can't use lens stabilization with IBIS. Either both on or both off.
you're the goat bro!
Thank you for the kind words!
Hey Josh, how do you determine a rolling shutter value, which software do you use? Cheers
Hello, I currently have a Fujifilm XH2-S. I also use a Canon R6 with RF 15-35mm and RF 28-70mm lenses for photography. I'm considering selling the Fujifilm and buying a Canon R5C to use with RF system lenses. However, I couldn't find a proper comparison for low-light performance between the Fujifilm and Canon at night. Since I do wedding photography, night quality is very important to me. I would love to get recommendations from those who have experience. Also, would the lack of IBIS in the R5C be a problem for me?
Thinking of selling my r6 and r6ii for the r5c. 50/50 video and photo non-professionally and want to lean more into video
Keep it up
Thanks. Will do!
Hey Josh, love your thorough comparisons between the R5 II and R5C, but what are your thoughts on the new VCM lenses Canon has released so far, and which of the two camera bodies would pair well with them? I ask because I’ve only mainly seen them on the R5, R6 II, or R5 II. I rarely see them on the R5C and I’m wondering if that’s because the lens lacks IS and the R5C also lacks IBIS?
Thanks! Yeah I haven't gotten a chance to try those lenses yet. Yes they lack stabilization and you would be relying on the digital IS in the R5C and any other stabilization methods like gimbals, tripods, etc.
Great video! I’m getting the sense that Canon doesn’t allow you to disable IBIS, like you can on a Sony?
Thanks! You can turn the IBIS off but it is also tied to the stabilization in the lenses so either both on or both off. When you turn IBIS off in a camera I'm not sure it locks it down as much as it being a non-stabilized sensor though.
you should try the C80 I tried and color graded some of its footage and it is really good !!
I am testing it now.
I will say Ive been using the R5c as my main camera for over 6 months now and have used it every weekend and i have to say the digital IS is great BUT i still have some weird "wobbles" that come from the digital IS and it drives me nuts.
On a gimbal i really don't need it but i will say having Digital IS with the camera just on a mono pod is honestly a lifesaver
Maybe it was my mistake to have Digital IS on while on a gimbal, didn't think there would be an issue but there is sometimes when people are dancing.
For handheld it stays on.
I have a question for all of you, Ive done some research and am looking for a better ceremony camera, have the r7 for that.
Would you guys go for another r5c or the c70? I looked at the c70 and i really don't think it would benefit me any that the r5c doesn't already offer other than a better audio setup on the c70
I would go for a r6 but the record limits really throw a wrench in that.
Any advice would be great and im staying canon, i don't want to learn another operation system, it already a huge jump coming from a R7 to a r5c and the cinema OS definitely took a bit to get used to.
I had the C70 and sold it to get the R5 C. I had the budget to buy another on but got another R5 C instead. It’s just too versatile, while the C70 has gorgeous footage, I don’t think it matches up to the R5 C.
I did own an R6 II - that is a perfect wedding cam: oversampled up to 4K60 (didn’t overheat for short clips), long takes in 4k 25p didn’t overheat for me either. Ibis. 2+ hour battery life. The image also has some secret sauce.
If someone offered me a free R6 II or C70, I’d take the R6 II.
I was also at a wedding last month and both videographers were using R6 IIs with rf 24-70.
Hope this is useful :)
R6 II is a great gimbal camera!
I like that the R5c has no IBIS.
absolutely necessary for using it mounted to a car
Great video …in your opinion for wildlife…relatively short clips what is the best r3 or r5 11 ?…we already have r3 which is great all round…but deciding on another r3 or r511…or even r1 one of usually does photos and the other films 👍
Either the R3 or R5II will be great for wildlife video. I haven't used the R1 yet so I don't have too much of an opinion.
Thank you… I might get r5 ii then cuz we already have r3 👍
Your videos aret too good, this video is the one i was waiting for. Given me a lot clarity on r5c vs r52 .. really detialed comparison.. 👌🏻 Pls let me know if R5C can record 4k/2k/FHD 60 RAW and interpret as clog 2..?
Thanks! You can record some lower resolution raws, but it crops in on the sensor. For example: S35 5.9K, S16 3K
What are the best codecs or settings in c-log 3 for low light? In xfavc I got a lot of noise at iso 6400
Can I ask if you have A lumix S5iix would you recommend the R5C as A cam or just stick to lumix? im looking to step up to a better camera then my Lumix, so Im startin to look into canon and Sony at this point
Thank you for the info Josh! My line of work I have to do a lot of gimbal work and I am looking to replace my canon r7 on my ronin. Do you see much of a difference going from the fixed sensor to the stabilized sensor when putting theses cameras on a gimbal? For reference I have to get a lot of shots physically running alongside power equipment.
You're welcome. Are you seeing any issues right now with your R7 setup?
@@Josh_Sattin Primarily rolling shutter and when I do early morning/ sunset/ night shots full frame is best. I will be purchasing one of these with a 35 1.4..... I used to work exclusively with a a7s3 but I recently started my career over again but with Canon this time around. I used to work for a corporation where they owned the cameras but now I am independent (by choice)
Hi Josh, thanks for this. I appreciate the time and effort you put in for everything review and comparison wise. I have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and you’re the only one I could think of that could help answer this question, but my brother (close friend, but he is practically like a brother to me) wants to gift me a new Canon R5 Mark II and either a Canon C400 or C80. While I have been arguing with him that he does not need to do this, he is insisting that I choose; otherwise, he will just choose for me. So he has already purchased the Canon R5 Mark II and is wanting to know if I want the C400 or the C80. I am planning on using it for UA-cam and probably real estate videos, as well as my photography business. Obviously, I have already tried to talk him out of it, but that's not happening, so I wanted to know your thoughts. The other thing is he is very well off, and he told me not to think of the money. He stated that he is investing in his brother, which very much hit me pretty hard emotionally, but he will do it anyway, so I just need some help from you on what avenue I should take. Thank you so much, Josh. I really appreciate it.
C80 vs C400 differences are mainly the form factor, CFB card, 6K60 raw.
Great video 🤩
If connecting an Atomos Ninja V recorder for the R5II would it be possible to record 4K fine in 24/30fps for long shoots without overheating?
Thanks! I didn't get a chance to try that, but that has been the workaround with Canon mirrorless cameras going back to the R5 mark I.
Interesting thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Are there differences between interpreting C-Log 2 in post vs shooting it in-camera?
I assume you are asking about the R5II since the R5C can can not record in Clog2. On both cameras when you record in raw you can select Clog2 or Clog3 in the raw controls. If you record in Clog2 on the R5II then it will have to be in a raw codec so the difference will be raw vs not raw.
Josh, how are you getting 1 hour plus with the new LP-E6P battery I can’t get more than 45 minutes of run time??? I’m only shooting 4K in XVAC @ 29 FPS…. I am relatively new to the video seen but have owned the R5C for over a year and have never gotten more than 45 minutes on a battery???
A reply would be very appreciated sit.
Thank you!
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Hey Josh! Thanks for making this video 🙏 How about getting something like C70 or C80? Or why don't you switch to Sony (sorry if i you talked about it in one of yours videos and I missed it). Cheers!
You're welcome. I've owned the C70 and will be testing the C80 soon. I have been in several camera systems over the past few years, including a lot of time with Sony. I don't switch from one company to another, I live in multiple systems.
Because I am a hybrid shooter, I prefer choosing Canon R5 II.
If someone made a LUT that perfectly matches the R5ii colors to the cinema line colors I would probably switch. Having almost perfect autofocus is just too convenient.
The new Firmware for the R5C is out and now you can use 8K60fps with the internal "P" battery :)
We need a Josh and Gerald undone video asap
No we don’t lol 😂
@ speak for yourself
There is a new firmware coming to R5C in December which will allow 8K60 recording without the need for external power, just with internal power as long as you use the latest “P” battery.
I’m not sure the new firmware would affect your battery life testing of 4K60fps though.. Maybe even better battery life??
I don’t mind external power to be able to shoot 60p, but I wouldn’t mind S&F recording with sound to a main card instead of the second one.
Where did you hear this?:)
@@dominikpietzko3355 Just wait mid Dec 😉
The new Firmware is here and it works ;)
@@dominikpietzko3355 hey dom, did you update your camera to the new firmware? 😃
A techinical question, is it possible put c-log 2 via firmware update (if Canon willing) or is a hardware-sensor thing?
They probably could technically add Clog2 to any camera but they won't do it. Sony put Slog3 in their older 8-bit cameras and it was basically unusable. Check out this video for more information about Canon's log profiles: ua-cam.com/video/PGp2-Mu5ElI/v-deo.html
End of the day, I recommended best solution, 😁 If you are Canon person, you should get both of them. I feel that Canon will announce the New R5C brand in 2025. All the disadvantages mentioned are gone and the price is around $5000. THANK YOU FOR VIDEO.
Super🎉
Are the R5C shots on a gimbal or with Digital IS?
In terms of the shots shown in this video, some were handheld and some were on a gimbal.
What resolutions are over sampled?
I talk about that in this video.
what one better to record weddings in 4k and 8k?
For most people I would recommend the R5C since it has a fan and will not overheat.
@@Josh_Sattin and r5c 100% has all same photo modes as r5 as looking to do stills
Should I buy R5c in 2025? Or should wait for fx3mrk2 or A7v...im sony user..
Hello , I have question, if you use R5ii 4k 60p battery life?
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@ Thanks
That shadow difference in RAW and Log is not subtle at all!
I have r5c. which is better for video rf 14-35 f4. or 15-35 f2.8?
Always choose the faster lens if your budget allows
@ which is faster :)🙏
In the R5C
IBIS wiggle is a huge factor, absolutely awful in the r5 and hardly better in the r5ii. Still for me clog2 matches sony DR better so i had to upgrade frok r5ii
The R5ii is clearly better with clog 2 if we're being honest..
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Yes the R5C is my Baby bringing on more client year after year I’m very happy with this Beast of a camera it’s going to match up well with my C80!!!
Your composition is very very dark
Canon R5C Mk2 coming 2 quarter of 2025